Full Show Podcast: 5 July 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:01):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues. The
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Bailey's real Estate, doing real estate
differently since nineteen seventy three, news togs had been.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Mollie and Welcomes with over UK vote and how big
is the labor Way? These new rules around housing and
where counsels and their ideas fitted, and new plans for
our Antarctic base. To tell you about Ian Jones on
the Test, Timicady did the Week, Richard Arnold and Murrayold's
they come on in as well, Oscar wagin A Friday
seven past six. It feels like it's been coming forever,
and in an odd way, it might just have been.

(00:32):
When the news division of Warners turns out the lights tonight,
it's the end of course of an era, or indeed
an error. The simple truth is TV three News never
quite cut it, and the history of fiscal dysfunction is
a major reason. Some of it was of their own doing,
some of it was the unluckiness of who owns you,
why they own you, and whether they're just as invested
as they might have been in a different set of circumstances.

(00:53):
TV three never really got off the ground properly. They
did a lot of good things, brought genuine competition to
the market, of course, shook up the presentation and reportage
of news of it, discovered some very good personality based talent,
but at no time did they do what they really
needed to be done right. They never toppled the main
player TB one. They made a dent or two when
they focused on specific demographics. They made some big dent,

(01:16):
but never quite crossed the line in terms of the zeitgeist.
They never changed the landscape to the point where they
were the champions of the Kings of the Hill. They
always remained the plucky, little competitive even years after that.
Moniker became absurd given they've been around the place for decades.
You can only run on the new kid and town
line for so long. It's a credit, of course to
TV and zero held them off. Not that they will
be celebrating the same way A Z'DB didn't celebrate when

(01:38):
we saw off a series of radio stations set up
and designed to take us down or out. Competition is
a good thing, and as of tonight, although stuff will
to a degree be taking over, it won't be the same.
It doesn't have the resource or the level of televisual expertise.
We wish them well. Of course, the landscape in terms
of terrestrial television is shocking, so all are more than

(01:58):
welcome to keep the alive. But media is a brutal
business that became even more brutal with the Internet and
streaming and the world shrinking. You either get an audience
and monetize it or you don't. It's sad, but emotion
never paid the bills.

Speaker 3 (02:14):
News of the world in ninety second.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (02:17):
The thing about the election day in Britain is that,
like New Zealand on the day, they've got these weird
rules about saying stuff.

Speaker 5 (02:22):
Prime Minister Richie Sunak and his wife visited a polling
station in North Yorkshire. The Labor leader Sir Keir Starmer,
also accompanied by his wife, cast his boat this morning
in London, while the Liberal Democrat leader Sir ed Davey
voted in South London.

Speaker 2 (02:37):
See what I mean. If the election hasn't gripped them,
the Euros have and next up is Switzerland and the playoffs.

Speaker 6 (02:43):
Feel good, thought we were going home after that.

Speaker 7 (02:46):
After sixty minutes of the game, everyone watching at home
knows that we're there to do it right into the
last minute, literally, and I think we should take great
confidence from that.

Speaker 2 (02:58):
Indeed, still in Britain, but caught Holly Willoughby, who's a
big deal morning television host until she quit because a
nutter wanted to kidnap and kill her. Said nut has
been in court whereas ex girlfriend was showing how thick
she was.

Speaker 5 (03:10):
It really has shocked me to be fit, because it's
not that's not the person that I knew.

Speaker 4 (03:15):
He never showed any signs when I knew him.

Speaker 2 (03:18):
COO whatsoever from the med service, Beryl has done her
thing in Jamaica.

Speaker 8 (03:23):
We have seen that there are some persons who have
been dislocated and are knowing shoutous. We have been told
about some areas that have been affected by storm surgeres
which would have damage courstal infrastructure.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
Isbelah as far a few rockets at Israel, and you
know how Israel feels about that sort of thing.

Speaker 9 (03:40):
To be clear, Israel is countering this Ksbela aggression. We
will use all and every means necessary to restore security
to our northern border and to safely return our citizens
to their home.

Speaker 2 (03:52):
Then stayside, the rumors are still swirling that Biden's about
to walk, but the Governor's met him yesterday. Then I
believe a path to victory in November is the number
one priority, and that's the number one priority of the president.

Speaker 10 (04:03):
The President was very clear that he is in this.

Speaker 3 (04:05):
To win this.

Speaker 11 (04:06):
President Joe Biden is in it to win it.

Speaker 2 (04:08):
Finally, it's been discovered that hippos can get airborne. This
is from research of the World that college in the UK.
They looked at one hundred and sixty nine different movement
patterns of hippos and they found when running at high speed,
they can spend fifteen percent of each stride off the ground.
A good fit hippo. By the way, just for fun facts,
Friday can clock thirty k's, which under the previous labor

(04:30):
government here was about the right speed around schools s
nears of the world in ninety fun factor or maybe
a sad fact, maybe a tragic fact. They've also found
out that consumers lost one point one four billion dollars
in America last year.

Speaker 10 (04:42):
What too.

Speaker 2 (04:42):
This is from the Federal Trade Commission. Median losses per
person amounted to about two thousand dollars, the highest reported
losses of any form of impost scam in America what Too.
About twenty two percent of surveyed financial advisors with clients
affected by this particular fraud had clients who fell victim
to the scam what scam, romance scams twelve past.

Speaker 3 (05:03):
Six costing breakfast.

Speaker 2 (05:06):
By the way, the funniest thing yesterday about Fatima payment
quitting was not the fact she quit, because we knew
that was coming. And what a scurrelous set of events
that's turned out to be given that. The word is
that this has been underway for about a month. So
this whole I crossed the floor and it's all new
and elbow too got taken by bollocks. Anyway, in quitting yesterday,
crossing the Senate floor, it's the most difficult decision of

(05:28):
her quote unquote political career, which until you delvint you go.
How long is that political career? In the answer is
less than two years, so in other word, about three
and a half minutes. She's been there fifteen past six.
I'm jmi well, Andre keller Hart, good morning, very good
morning mate, Somerset. Update. What did they tell us?

Speaker 12 (05:48):
Yeah?

Speaker 13 (05:48):
I thought I'd finished the week with some stuff that's well,
got an optimistic spin about it or a bit positive
just to prove that everything out there isn't completely grim.
So yeah, So Somerset Somerset Holdings Less in New Zealand
runs retirement villages in New Zealand and Australia. So there's
thirty seven villains some thing of this. They've got Lambbank
sites and they've expanded into Victorious Well, so it's one

(06:10):
of our largest retirement village operators.

Speaker 14 (06:12):
Delivered a trading update.

Speaker 13 (06:14):
Yesterday and there are hints of optimism in there. They
noted that the New Zealand property market had been softer
than anticipated, highlighting the now oft quoted reasons of which
everybody should be able to trot out our higher interest rates,
weak consumer confidence and cost of living pressures.

Speaker 14 (06:31):
But despite that, their first half sales.

Speaker 13 (06:34):
Volumes are up up twenty two percent on the corresponding period,
so they're going to have the highest first half record
sales the company has recorded. So first quarter sales three
hundred and thirty three, pretty evenly split between new sales
and resales. The second quarter was thirty one percent up
on the first quarter and as it.

Speaker 14 (06:52):
Said, twenty one percent up year on year.

Speaker 13 (06:54):
Unfortunately, the increased sales don't necessarily translate into increased profits.
But given the so property market, Mike I think is
quite an achievement deliver a lift in sales volumes. They've
got construction and progress at seventeen sites throughout New Zealand
and Australia and expects to They expect to deliver a
number of units closer to the lower end of the
guidance given, which was six seventy five to seven twenty five.

Speaker 14 (07:15):
But all in all, a not bad ye.

Speaker 2 (07:18):
Actually, what about Infantil that's not bad either?

Speaker 3 (07:20):
Is it?

Speaker 14 (07:21):
Uplifting story number two?

Speaker 2 (07:22):
Uplifting?

Speaker 13 (07:23):
Nice revaluation boost for Infantel. We talk about Infantil quite regularly.
Recently a nouncesday capital rays. The retail part of that
is still underway. One of the real success stories in
Infantil's portfolio has been CDC Data Centers. Yesterday announced a
revaluation of CDC. So in the last three months that
valuation has risen by five hundred million dollars. So if

(07:45):
you want to express that differently, let's call it half
a billion. So the independent valuation of Infantel's forty eight
and a quarter scent stake in CDC.

Speaker 14 (07:53):
Is now worth up to four point nine.

Speaker 13 (07:55):
Billion dollars the midpoint of that valuation from four point
five billion. That increase reflects CDC's updata development pipeline.

Speaker 14 (08:03):
That's one of the reasons Infantol is raising the money.

Speaker 13 (08:05):
Plenty of demand for data centers at the moment, so
that's a good announcement for Infantol shareholders.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
Indeed, and then let's wrap it up with housing. Is
housing good or not so good?

Speaker 13 (08:15):
Well, this is the household Outlook from ASB, so it's
sort of a research piece they released yesterday.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
My focus here is on.

Speaker 14 (08:21):
The twelve month outlook and look.

Speaker 13 (08:23):
First of all, what I will say is, if I
think this is a really good piece of research, I'd
encourage interested listeners who are interested in this sort of
thing to get out there and read it. It's accessible.
It's the outlook for the household sector. It talks about
a reset being underway at the moment.

Speaker 3 (08:38):
You know.

Speaker 13 (08:38):
My view has always been that for financial markets, twenty
twenty two was the great reset. It's the households turned
now so are in the midst of what they say
is the post COVID nineteen adjustment. They identify three drivers
cost of living pressures, which was the initial source of
pressure for households balance sheets. Household balance sheets, the outlook
for house prices being scaled back so that wealth effect

(08:59):
is avaporating.

Speaker 14 (09:00):
They say that negative equity issues will service.

Speaker 13 (09:03):
And the third one is employment and labor in comes,
and that's where the pressures are building now.

Speaker 14 (09:08):
The thing is, if you look twelve months out, the
outlook is better.

Speaker 13 (09:13):
Cost of living pressures should have eased, we should be
seeing modest house price recovery. This according to ASP and
a twelve months time the labor market reset will likely
be completed. So survive till twenty five. There's a bit
of light on the horizon out there.

Speaker 2 (09:27):
So there you go.

Speaker 14 (09:28):
There's a little bit of uplift.

Speaker 2 (09:29):
That's almost that's a trifector. There's a trifle uplifting sentiment.

Speaker 14 (09:34):
Come to me for the good oil.

Speaker 2 (09:35):
Might that's the one. One of the numbers.

Speaker 13 (09:37):
Well, the US they've had a day off obviously because
it's the fourth of July. So these numbers are the
previous closers. Dow Jones thirty nine thousand, three hundred and
eight s and P five hundred five to five three seven.

Speaker 14 (09:48):
And then as that eighteen thousand, one hundred and eighty eight.

Speaker 13 (09:52):
The Forts one hundred is still going up despite the election,
eight to four one uper point eighty six of a percent.
The Nike was up point eight two percent. Forty nine
hundred and fourteen. Shangha compasses lost twenty five points two
nine five seven on the Australasian markets yesterday, the ASX
two hundred had a good day actually one point one

(10:12):
nine percent game. That's ninety two points seven eight three one.

Speaker 6 (10:16):
The closed there.

Speaker 13 (10:17):
The inns AdEx fifty down forty four points yesterday. Eleven thousand,
seven hundred and forty six. Kiwi dollar up a little
bit overnight. It's back up over sixty one cents point
six one point one seven point nine oh nine two
against the Australian dollar point five six five seven Euro
point four to seven nine four pounds.

Speaker 14 (10:35):
Ninety eight point five eight.

Speaker 13 (10:37):
Japanese yen gold is trading at two thousand, three hundred
and fifty six dollars in Brentrude. You won't like this
eighty seven dollars and forty three cents. It's creeping up,
Yes it is.

Speaker 2 (10:48):
You have a good week and make appreciate it. Andrew
Kellerhead Jmiwealth dot Co dot Nz did the Post Scotland
you know whatever. The tax thing was Churs time the
other day two nine nine for the ninety eight and
I thought that's fair enough. I wasn't un I wasn't
prepared by that. By the way, eBay, if you've got
some time over the weekend, Elton john selling some of
his stuff on eBay right now. Began on Thursday, ends
this Sunday. There's a teal blue Richard James suit that

(11:13):
you might be interested. The reason I like that is
Richard James was the bloke who made me my suit
in London for the coronation, so me and Elton right.
I got an embroidered light blue leather jacket, some Gucci loafers. Well,
I was gonna tell you. There's a sleeveless actually this
is for me, a Journey Versachi chain mail sleeveless tank top,

(11:37):
a Verasarchi Poka dot dress. I've given up wearing dresses.
I don't wear dresses anymore. And a bright not even
Friday bright pink Bitsy's hot shirt from Betsy Johnson. It's
all on eBay. There's a brown and black silk Gucci shirt,
a Bomber jacket, a blazer, a Yamamoto track suit. Got
an Eddy Dash track suits all Elton Johnston's on eBay.

Speaker 15 (12:01):
Could you get the wear the chain mail vest under
the Rod Stewart jacket of yours?

Speaker 2 (12:06):
How cool? How cool? Sex twenty one Here at news Talk.

Speaker 16 (12:11):
Said by.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (12:18):
Mike, I got the handbag that Umung hit Chris Maso
within the pub many years ago. If you want for
six grand, it's all yours?

Speaker 17 (12:24):
You do not?

Speaker 2 (12:25):
Do you really?

Speaker 3 (12:26):
Mike?

Speaker 2 (12:26):
How does Andrew's positive reports work when globally Western countries
are ninety one trillion in debt?

Speaker 3 (12:31):
Chris?

Speaker 2 (12:32):
What a very good question, which reminded me to recommend
a bit of reading over the weekend. The World. The
headline is the world is sitting on a ninety one
trillion dollar problem. Hard choices are coming. It's a very
good piece. It was in C and N out of
London earlier on this week. Look that up over the
weekend because it outlines exactly what you're saying, and you're
one hundred percent correct. Sex twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
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Speaker 2 (12:55):
Here we go Biden drama more with Richard Shorty, but
we got the recording of Trump. If you haven't caught
up on this one. He's out on the golf course
looking Truman as ever. He shouldn't tuck his shirt into
his pants, to be honest, with no jacket. Anyway, he's
chatting with people on the golf course. He's he's in
a golf cart and it says here with Bannon. He's
with Baron. It's Baron, not Bannon. Bannon's in jail. So

(13:18):
Bannon's in jail, Baron's son. Anyway, Baron's with him, and
he's Trump. Trump has information. Listen to this gave me
so much.

Speaker 18 (13:27):
How did they do with the vet the other night?

Speaker 19 (13:30):
All broken down? Pilot crabs?

Speaker 3 (13:32):
Yeah, it's a bad he just quit.

Speaker 17 (13:33):
You know he's quitting.

Speaker 14 (13:34):
The rest is that right?

Speaker 4 (13:35):
Yep?

Speaker 6 (13:36):
I got him, And that means we have Kamala. I
think she's going to be better.

Speaker 19 (13:42):
She's so bad, she's so pers.

Speaker 14 (13:47):
I just can't imagine.

Speaker 4 (13:48):
But can you imagine that?

Speaker 19 (13:49):
Go with dealing with Putin and the President of China,
who's a fierce person. He's a fierce man, a very
tough guy, and they see him, they probably can.

Speaker 2 (14:02):
See the thing about it he does. He employ people
just stand there and go, how do they doing? Really good?
So good? You'd never have a conversation with Trump. You
would never get a word in each ways, wouldn't it.

Speaker 15 (14:11):
He would just go like here, you know, you're surrounded
by people who you just constantly tell you how great
you are.

Speaker 10 (14:21):
Everything you say is correct exactly.

Speaker 2 (14:23):
I thought, hang on, this is familiar to me. What's
going on? ABC have announced, by the way, that the
sit Down Interview, which is midday tomorrow. Jeez, a big weekend.
If you've got the Biden interview, you got the Warriors,
you got the F one, you got the supercars, you
got the All Blacks Test. Anyway, midday tomorrow, that's going
to be a primetime special. It will be played in full,
which is eight o'clock Eastern Eastern time tomorrow. Use for

(14:45):
you in a couple of moments. Then we'll delve into
the world of these these zembic weight loss drugs.

Speaker 1 (14:53):
You're Trusted Home the News, Entertainment's Opinion and Mike the
Mic Hosking Breakfast with Vita Live, The Age You Feel
News Talk, sedb.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
So the question is why, who's the mole who made
the recording of the conversation with listened to the media.
I think you're reading far too much in it. And
what was the intent, obviously to show Trump as mean
and to discredit him. I think exactly the opposite. I
think everything Trump does, especially on the golf courses, recorded
in some way, shape or form. I mean, it's on
a phone, for goodness sake of if you've seen the
coverage that it's clearly done on the phone, and it

(15:24):
doesn't make him sound mean or discredit him at all.
It does exactly the opposite, because there are no surprises
with Trump. You know exactly who Trump is and what
he's about. And what is I suspect has been leaked
by the Trump group because what they want, the best
possible outcome for them is Biden's stays in the race.
They were desperate for Biden and staying in the race.
Biden is beatable. We know he's beatable, and he's beatable
easily after the debate, and so therefore they want him

(15:47):
to stay in the race. Sadly, what Trump says Mike
was saying is the truth and the whole The Democrats
have dug themselves into that is one hundred percent correct,
twenty two minutes away from seven.

Speaker 3 (15:57):
Now the Merdstone.

Speaker 2 (16:07):
More from Richard Arnold. Shortly a zempic is changing the world,
of course, but this country has the opportunity that flows
from it, so we grow as it turns out a
key ingredient. It's a natural alternative. Adam Amata state. It's
extracted from hops and sales have doubled every quarter. Is
a zimpic. Shortages create a sort of a perfect storm
for a natural alternative. Now the whole category is expected

(16:28):
to be worth they say, about one hundred billion dollars
by twenty thirty. Leading international obesity expert doctor Ben Gonzalez
is with us on this has been very good morning
to you.

Speaker 3 (16:35):
Good morning to you, mate.

Speaker 2 (16:36):
What's your view on this whole GLP revolution.

Speaker 6 (16:40):
Well, it's interesting.

Speaker 20 (16:42):
I've been using this medication for over seven years, and
of course celebrity attention just kind of shoots up, you know,
he shoots up the attention a couple of years ago,
and now it's become it wasn't even on the on
the radars less than you know, three years ago, and
now it's some.

Speaker 14 (16:59):
One of the top five drugs prescribed.

Speaker 20 (17:02):
So I think it's a very useful, powerful, safe drug,
but it needs to be used appropriately with appropriate you know,
doctor intervention.

Speaker 2 (17:10):
But the problem is it isn't is it?

Speaker 3 (17:13):
No, it isn't.

Speaker 20 (17:14):
And I've been watching especially over the last year and
a half and watching these pop up kind of weight
loss spas. These weight losser are just kind of selling
the drug and doctors not being fully trained on how
to manage the medication, just kind of writing the prescriptions
willy nilly, and and.

Speaker 21 (17:33):
Then there you have it.

Speaker 20 (17:33):
So we've got it.

Speaker 21 (17:35):
Like I said, it's relatively safe, but but it's not
being used appropriately.

Speaker 2 (17:41):
This natural side of the equation, this is a marasites.
Given it comes from hops, presumably it was there all along.
Did we just not know about it or we didn't
know what it could do?

Speaker 20 (17:51):
Oh well, definitely we know about what bidders do for
human physiology. We know it's a protective. It's very protective
for human physiology.

Speaker 21 (18:03):
For safety reasons, all right, especially for women, especially.

Speaker 20 (18:06):
For pregnant women. Right, So we've known about the bitter receptors,
but we haven't known is the usefulness of these types
of things for helping with hunger, weight loss, and.

Speaker 21 (18:17):
Blood sugger management. So yes, we've known for a while,
we've been studying it for a while. The bottom line
is that now it's coming to fruition.

Speaker 6 (18:27):
The studies have.

Speaker 20 (18:28):
Been going on over the last seven to ten years,
and we're seeing the benefits of that, this natural substance
doing good.

Speaker 2 (18:34):
Things pound for pound. As you would say in America,
if I take a zimpic versus the bitters, does it
work the same way with the same of fake do
or not?

Speaker 3 (18:46):
Oh?

Speaker 20 (18:47):
Very good question, because that is the question that time
will give us some some more answers. Right, That's a
little early, because there's no studies that look at ocempic
against the Ameri state or comparing those two products together
and those studies that do that.

Speaker 21 (19:04):
However, we do know with human studies that it does
similar effect to a sempic. I had been finding in
my practice that same effect of triggering those hormones in.

Speaker 20 (19:16):
The gut to allow for satiety, for managing hunger, and
for managing blood sugar. So yes, you do get in
those stays, you.

Speaker 21 (19:25):
Do get similar response. Now we're looking for clinical response, right,
and I've been seeing it my practice. Pound four pound.
As you said, I have been seeing it work very
very well, similar to the Osempics.

Speaker 2 (19:37):
It's a fascinating area. Been appreciate Tom very much. Not
to talk to doctor Ben Gonzalez, leading international obesity expert
on that subject. By the wide ite minutes away from
seven pass games, there is a study out this morning.
Everyone's dismissing it. When I say everyone's dismissing it, an
orders dismissing it may be associated a zimpic might be
associated with a rare eye condition. New study, worst case,

(20:00):
would likely result in a further update in the drugs label.
So that's what Nobobnortius is saying. In other words, if
it proves to be true, then we'll put a little
warning on the label. But apart from that, semiglue tide
is what they're talking about. This study comes out of Harvard,
which carries a little bit of weight. Nova Orders say, look,
it's not a game changer. Patients with type two diabetes
or obesity can it can lead to a condition that

(20:22):
can lead to the loss of a vision in one eye,
which is not ideal. The research paper does suggest some
correlation with a rare ocular event. The quality of the
evidence very low. The error bars are very wide, so
we'll have to watch and wait and see. But the
interesting thing is that the amount of study that's been
done on these drugs so far in the grand scheme

(20:43):
of things is reasonably limited. So we're charging forward into
an area that, at least to some degree, we don't
know what happens. So surely there's a bit of a
red flag there. Seventeen to two.

Speaker 3 (20:57):
The mic costing break VST Mike the.

Speaker 2 (20:59):
Term for seeing Trump on the golf course with a
shirt tucked inn as fake spilt. That's not bad. Did
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Speaker 6 (21:22):
Business morning mate?

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Yes, yes, in the morning.

Speaker 2 (21:26):
Yes, exactly where are we at? So they've got the
interview and the meetings and where are we at?

Speaker 6 (21:31):
Well?

Speaker 4 (21:31):
What can you say? It's a very odd American Independence Day?

Speaker 16 (21:34):
Is it night?

Speaker 4 (21:34):
It is two hundred and forty eight years since the
American colony has quit the British rule with the Declaration
of Independence. But now we're at the crossroads in every respect.
They politically charged Supreme Court, of course, just delivered their
historic ruling seemingly in support of Trump, saying that American
presidents are above the law when it comes to any
official acts of ruling. The court descended, says, turned the

(21:56):
Democratic presidency into a virtual monarchy with the current is
it Biden, of whom you've been speaking, well, he is
certainly under minute by minute increasing pressure to drop his
bid for a second term, when no presumptive nominee ever
has withdrawn this late in the process. So it's history
in the making, folks. The Republican nominating Convention is just
eleven days off. The Democrats meet in Chicago in mid August.

(22:17):
O'clock really is ticking, and no one fully knows yet
what is happening behind the scenes, although of course we
do have the Trump view in that golf course chit
chat today, Biden is quote a broken down pile of
crap and on the verge of quitting the race in
place of his VP Kamala Harris who he calls so
bleeping bad. Biden, meantime, has annoyed some Democrats by digging
in in his first meeting with governors last night, one

(22:39):
asked him about his health and he replied, He's fine,
it's just my brain quote unquote, which some took as
a joke. Some apparently did not. Today, before his big
primetime network interview tomorrow night with American ABC, he did
a radio spot with a small station in Wisconsin.

Speaker 3 (22:56):
Be on stage does not erasee.

Speaker 20 (23:02):
But I've done for three and a half years, prout
of the record, and we just got to keep moving.

Speaker 4 (23:07):
Well, that is not the question, is it. No one
is questioning the past several years and how it should
be assessed. The debate is over what is next? That
is the concern. Does Biden have the best shot at
beating Trump? From the Democrats status poles hav him slipping
to six points behind Trump and in big, big trouble
in some of the battleground areas. Mid survey is showing

(23:28):
about eighty percent of people think Biden, at eighty one,
is too old to seek another four year term. Trump
is because seventy eight former Congressman Tim Ryan is backing
a move towards having Kamala Harris at the top of
the Democratic Party ticket.

Speaker 2 (23:40):
We need a generational change.

Speaker 3 (23:42):
I mean, there's no question about that.

Speaker 4 (23:44):
Well, most current pollies are keeping their powder dry. But
even James Kleman, who you recall, saved Biden during the
twenty twenty primary, says he is open theoretically to a
leadership change and perhaps a mini primary, as he says
he would initially back Harris in such a situation.

Speaker 3 (24:02):
I would support her if he were to step aside.

Speaker 4 (24:06):
So, yeah, the debate certainly is heating up, Mike, but
Biden gets to make the call. How long before all
this has resolved? The big network interview is tomorrow, but
Democrat de b Dingle says.

Speaker 3 (24:15):
One interview is not gonna reassure folks.

Speaker 4 (24:19):
Yeah, now things are moving quickly, and if there is
to be a change, every day of course robs any
new potential candidate of chances to make their own pitch. Meantime,
the Economist magazine, the prestigious British weekly, has on its
cover a walker some foldable crutches, with a US presidential
seal right on the front there and the headline no
way to run a country to which the Drudge Report

(24:40):
reacts quote scored on.

Speaker 10 (24:42):
The fourth of July.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
Indeed, what do you know out of Jamaica, It's a
mess that Hurricane Beryl is moving on after battering the
island in recent hours. It just passed over the southern
tip as a category four has weakened a little sense,
but this storm caused complete devastation to some parts of Jamaica,
especially Saint Elizabeth in the southwest, which is a key
agricultural area. First images show a great deal of damage

(25:05):
and more than sixty percent of people there are without
power and water, so assessments still being made. The storm
now is headed towards Mexico. We're officials say they could
be hit twice in the coming days. The forecast also
suggested could strike the Texas coast as across as the
Gulf of Mexico, it could gain strength. The one plus
is that another storm already passed over those particular orders,

(25:25):
so they're not as warm as they might be. But again,
this is the earliest Category five hurricane ever recorded in
the Caribbean. One more sign of the changing climate.

Speaker 2 (25:34):
You enjoy your July four day, mate, We'll catch up.
Richard Arnold's stateside, the Mega trifecta and why the Democrats
are worried about that. I'll tell you about that in
the moment ten to seven the My costume Breakfast with
Alz You's talk said the siven away from seven. This
is Gavin Newsom, who today is in South Haven, Missouri.

(25:55):
The point being that he's out campaigning for Biden and herrise.
He's supposed to be allegedly the placement when Biden quits. Anyway,
here he is whatever.

Speaker 22 (26:02):
Task largest fall because I believe in this band, I
believe in his character. I believe that he has been
one of the most transformative presidents in our collective lifetimes.

Speaker 2 (26:14):
So so he's really behind him. The interesting thing being
that the meeting yesterday everyone the conspiracy theory. One of
the conspiracy theorists who wrote to me earlier on said
that Newsom's in Washington today and already I'm looking at
him in South Haven, Missouri, which is not Washington. But
this Maga trifecta threat is potentially real, and this is
what they're worried about. So the governor is a meeting,

(26:36):
of course, and they've come behind him. But the Senate
fifty one to forty nine majority to the Democrats. Twenty
three seats currently held by the Dems are on the
line in November, compared with just eleven held by the Republicans.
As far as the House is concerned, the Democrats could
be in striking distance of a majority, since the Republicans
currently hold only a slight two nineteen to two thirteen majority,

(26:58):
and so that could be slip away. One of the strategists,
guy called Paul Begala, says the pressure on Biden's only
just beginning. Since lawmakers are headed home to talk to
their constituents over the July fourth holiday, which is happening
as we speak. I think voters are going to say,
are you out of your mind? So if enough voters
say that when they go home for the July fourth holiday,

(27:19):
by the time they come back from the July fourth holiday,
things might have shifted five minutes away from seven.

Speaker 3 (27:25):
All the inns and the outs. It's the fizz on
the Mike Husking breakfast on News Talk z.

Speaker 2 (27:31):
B E you another crack this morning at China over
these evs, Carmakers and consumers a bit worried about what
the Chinese do next. Of course, so the Eu've gone
and raised tariffs for the industry. Terrofts range from seventeen
point four to thirty seven point six individual manufacturers, depending
on who you are. That's on top of the ten
percent duty already on all the EV's imported from China.

(27:51):
Very big move considering the EU is China's largest overseas market,
but it's been coming for a while. Since twenty nineteen,
Chinese EV sales have risen from z zer zero point
four percent to eight percent. Last year. Projections are the
richer market share in the EU of twenty percent by
twenty twenty seven. That's the problem, so obviously us all
over it. They've raised tariff to one hundred percent. And

(28:14):
the problem is, of course who pays all of this,
And the answer is the consumer, and that's how tariff's works.
So in other words, you BYD's not quite as cheap
as it once was. The Europeans argue that the reason
your BYD is so cheap is because the Chinese government
have heaped money into the factory and therefore it's all artificial.
So we're going to put it right with tariffs, and
the Chinese say that's not true. BYD are just an
efficient company, and we do a good product anyway. The
new tariff comes into effect tomorrow under provision, while this

(28:38):
investigation into the Chinese state support continues while they try
and work out the race is on globally, and there's
a tremendous amount of interest at the moment from all
over as to whose investigation finishes first, the EU's investigation
into Chinese evs or the Green Party investigation into Darlene Tana.

Speaker 10 (28:58):
I think we all know, Chal, I think we all
EU is going to get.

Speaker 2 (29:01):
Across that line so much sooner than anything else. Right,
What else we got? We got the business of the
EU vote nine o'clock this morning. The pole's close. You'll
get an instant exit poll at that particular point in time.
They tend to be reasonably accurate, and full results start
flowing in from ten o'clock this morning our time. What
you're looking for is how big the waivers, what happens
to the SMP north of the border, does Farage get

(29:22):
a seat and so on? So we'll do that. Then
the business of the government rules around housing land was
what they were aiming to talk about yesterday, and they
did to a degree, But everyone got fascinated with balconies
and so by the end of it, we're all living
in nineteen square meters with no balcony. That seemed to
be the fascination. So more on that for you shortly
after the News, which is next, you're a News Talks
hed b.

Speaker 1 (29:44):
The newspeakers and the personalities the big names talk to
like Costing Breakfast with its.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Jaguar, the art of performance.

Speaker 2 (29:53):
News Talks head B seven PLAST seven. Voting coming to
a close in Britain in the next hour or so.
The expectation is history is about to unfold. The poles
right there's against you in rid waves, sweeping Labor into
office with the majority not seen in decad Cheap political
correspondent at the Times, Aubrey Eligritty is with us on this. Aubury,
very good morning to you.

Speaker 18 (30:10):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (30:11):
Any sense of turnout.

Speaker 12 (30:15):
So o would the very hotly.

Speaker 18 (30:17):
Sated topic, and we're still waiting for any kind official numbers.
But the speculation is that this could be potentially quite
a low turnout election because when you look at the
opinion polls, you're seeing record low numbers for the main
two parties, the Labor Party and the Conservative Party, and
so it could be dipping below seventy percent the.

Speaker 2 (30:37):
Actual campaign itself, did it make any difference or was
this a fullk on conclusion since day one?

Speaker 18 (30:45):
Well, Richie Sunak had the chance to all this election.
It's part of the sort of biggest gift he has.
He can spring it as a surprise on the opposition
and try to use it to his own advantage. But
it doesn't seem to have worked. He went into this
election campaign with the Conservative Party the governing party at
the moment, twenty points behind the opinion polls as they
really have been ever since the ill fated premiership of

(31:08):
Liz Trust that lasted only forty nine days, and during
the course of that campaign the poles have been particularly sticky.
They haven't moved substantially. If anything, really, the Conservatives have
seen a little bit of a dip, seeing their vote
share being eaten into by the other party on the
right led by Nigel Farage, known as Reform. So actually
the campaign doesn't seem to have substantially changed very much.

Speaker 2 (31:30):
Do you, with your experience believe the polls is history
going to be made? Is the wave mess up?

Speaker 18 (31:38):
It certainly seems that way. I mean, opinion polls obviously
have been used with varying degrees of accuracy before. I
think the thing that is so different about this time
is that they have been stuck this way for so long.
So all the way back to October twenty twenty two,
they have showed that Labour's lead has been about twenty
points in front and the Conservatives have been on the
complete back foot. So that suggests that there hasn't really

(32:02):
been any sort of radical shift, that there isn't a
sort of outlier poll, and certainly MPs and ministers feel
it on the doorsteps as well. We've even had ministers
tonight effectively tweeting their resignation and saying that they know
that they're going to be out of office, even though
you know, officially we don't know how anyone's voted yet.

(32:23):
So actually, I think the results of this election does
to a lot of people feel like a fore gone conclusion.

Speaker 2 (32:28):
And what's your assistment of Stammer And does he have
the discipline to control a caucus that's potentially messive with
a tremendous amount of inexperience.

Speaker 18 (32:37):
Absolutely, there is a danger, if you like, to winning
the largest majority for a political party in modern political history,
and that is that people become potentially unruly, that they
might rebel against the government. I suppose the thing that
he can count on is that his majority is so
big it doesn't matter. But there's also the issue of

(32:59):
lots of kind of sleeves and scandal that's dogged the
Conservative Party for many years. That was partly seen as
a result of the fact that lots of people got
elected who didn't anticipate becoming MPs back in twenty nineteen.
And if the same is true this time, then potentially
you have people with a lot of bagage, a lot
of history who get into parliaments. There aren't enough roles
for them to have any sort of official title of

(33:22):
the party or politically as ministers, and so they languish
in the comments, they get up to no good and
so that could present as danger for Kissedama as well.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
Great and so we go, well, a couple of hours,
just under a couple of hours to go or be
ellegretted the two political correspondent at the Times eleven minutes
past seven, asking Ferrari ra Old made from LBC's with
us after seven thirty this morning on that very meta
So how do counsels back to other metters fit into
the government's new housing plan announced yesterday. It's out, it's up.
There are questions around infrastructure like pipes and rides and lights. Basically,

(33:51):
counsels will have to plan for thirty years worth of
housing development. The Funeramy Vince Cocilla's Beck where there's Vince morning.

Speaker 23 (33:57):
Good morning Mike.

Speaker 2 (33:57):
Did you like what you heard of your head? The
right pool out from under you a bit?

Speaker 23 (34:02):
No? I, personally from our council's side of the I
do like what was actually announced because it basically aligned
with what we presently already do.

Speaker 2 (34:09):
Okay, So if councils have got something in place, are
you tier one or tier two? Are you part of
this equation? Are you outside of this?

Speaker 23 (34:15):
We're only tiered two. We were forced by the previous
government to do the FDS, the fugiative on the strategy
that have been resolved, whereas previously we were in actually
already done our growth strategy, but previous government forced us
to do this.

Speaker 2 (34:28):
Okay, So if you've already got a plan, then what
was announced yesterday won't be a problem. Do things like
balconies in nineteen twenty square meter apartments bother you? Or
you and a part of the country where that's not
even an issue.

Speaker 23 (34:39):
Look, we've got a lot of people. Look, choice is
probably the biggest thing, and that's a big thing people
need to be able to choice. In Sangoday. The smallest
houses that have actually got in tog today probably about
hundred square meters. We've also got your own greenni flats,
butich you're about sixty square menus. So they are here
in Sangurday. I think from what Minister Bishop was putting
up there without make sure there choice is available. And

(35:01):
for those Tier one councils, which is Awten and Wellington places,
they need to have places which are affordable for students
who are studying or for people who need housing.

Speaker 2 (35:13):
What's your view on developers The argument being if developers
seed are profit and they will provide the pipes and
do the infrastructure and they can make it work, is
that fair or not.

Speaker 6 (35:23):
Yes.

Speaker 23 (35:23):
What we've done in Van Hayes is we've agreed with
you're saying they're about developers in it. How we also
done is two thousand and seven when I started council,
we did a growth strategy. We worked out where the
infrastructure needs to be, so we're actually put in place
called development contribution. Now there are some councilors who don't
have that. We do so when a developer says, okay,

(35:45):
I'm going to do development in this area, we put
the price on each property and say, okay, that many
going towards the infrastructure in that area to complete that project.
So that actually allows for the pipes to be upgraded,
the roads to be upgraded, and all that side of things.

Speaker 2 (35:58):
You almost sound like you've got you're act together in
fung arrayphants.

Speaker 23 (36:02):
We've been working on it a long time, Mike, A
long time.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Good time. You may go well this week in Vince
Cocarilla funger aimea meantime. I note that Auckland's bitching as
usual because they were too busy having a vote on
it yesterday, that that makes absolutely no difference. But heaven
for bid, you should do something when you can have
a vote that means nothing. Thirteen past seven. Like my
wife and I live in nineteen square meters, it's a
buslove at no balcony. Tell you what Chris Bishop was

(36:27):
outstanding yesterday when all the usual bitching came about. Won
a mean you're going to have twenty square meter boxes
he goes, you know what's worse than twenty square meter box,
a tent and a car Mike Drop fourteen past seven.

Speaker 3 (36:42):
The host recast Mike.

Speaker 2 (36:44):
What the government rules are around minimum size is left
relevant than what the banks will offer mortgages on b
and ZID has a minimum floyer area of fifty square
meters for the mortgages. You make a very good point,
but that changes constantly, and the pressure will go on
the banks of course, so the government will have thought
of all of this, because do remember we've been here before.

Speaker 3 (36:59):
This is not new.

Speaker 2 (37:00):
We used to have them.

Speaker 17 (37:01):
Now.

Speaker 2 (37:01):
My great concern the thing that Bishop got wrong yesterday
was he go, people tell me when they come back
from London and Paris that they wish it looked like
London and Paris. And first of all, no one tells
Chris Bishop that. But second of all, if you've been
to London and Paris, one of the things they have
and this whole twenty thirty square meter thing, don't fool yourself.
Most of Europe lives in twenty or thirty square meters.

(37:22):
You ever been to a hotel room in London, London
or Paris anyway? Point being their architecture is beautiful because
they built things at a time when it was beautiful.
What we build in this country tragically are boxes, and
they're ugly boxes. So twenty square meters of Victorian beauty
is not the same as twenty square meters of leaky crap,

(37:43):
and in that is the difference. Seventeen past seven, now
I think we've got good news. Antarctic in New Zealand
has confirmed its plan for redeveloping Scott Base. This has
turned into a bit of a political issue with various
cost blowouts. So what's changed to Antarctica. Board chair Leon
Grice is with us leam Morning Morning, make this head
for a while the inter island, the ferry about it.
Costs were going through the roof. What happened there?

Speaker 17 (38:07):
I think, you know, building conation went up with cost controls,
women being focused on and and then you know the
methodology that was being used was just going to be
inherently expensive so and also risky. So the board before
me in August put the project on pause. And then

(38:29):
when I came on to the board earlier this year
with a few other members of the board basically finished
off the job and got an independent reviewed to get
it under control.

Speaker 2 (38:37):
So what have you got now? Nineteen square meters with
no balcony?

Speaker 17 (38:43):
No, but it won't be a Victorian's house eiver No.
We think that we can deliver exactly the same scope,
but more more functional focused as opposed to design lead.
And we can refurbish a lot of the buildings like
the Hillary Field Center was refurbished in twenty sixteen. We
think we can extend that to vote that completely to

(39:05):
science so that the scientists get a facility for it
that will meet all their.

Speaker 16 (39:10):
Needs down there.

Speaker 17 (39:12):
And we think that a mixture of building you and
a mixture of a refurbishment and a master plan will
deliver us a very cost effective way of going forward
in a much lower risk of delivery good.

Speaker 2 (39:24):
Is Winston Peter still the chief architect here?

Speaker 17 (39:27):
I know his brief was pretty simple. We'll just get
it sorted, and that was about and put as much
pressure on as as possible to get it good.

Speaker 2 (39:37):
What's the time frame when's this thing sorted?

Speaker 17 (39:41):
We've got about another year of detailed costing to work
on it, because we've got to translate the designs that
we've got into new modular formats that are easier to
transport and then we've got to go through cabinets again.
We've got to get the money released because it's not
you know, it was taken back into this them as
a tagged contingency. So we've got a year of work

(40:03):
to do that. Our goal is that will be turning
the key to the new buildings and the refurbished buildings
in twenty eight twenty twenty nine.

Speaker 2 (40:10):
That season fantastic. Go well, mate, appreciate your time. Leon Grass,
who's the Antarctica New Zealand board chair these days? Mike,
after being unsuccessful getting tickets for Chris Stapleton next year,
I used as this year actually to be fair us
it next year you can't remember. It doesn't matter. I
used a few airpoints, flew to La went to wisconcert
at the Hollywood Bowl last week. He sang for two
hours accompanied by his wife. Great night show was amazing.

(40:32):
Bucket listener got a T shirt Some People's Lives A
seven twenty.

Speaker 3 (40:37):
Mike Costeel Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
Nick Ferrari out of LBC our old mate caught up
with him a year ago for the coronation, so he's
back with us on the UK vote tonight. Ian Jones
on the Test of course before eight o'clock this morning,
seven twenty three. Time now to mark the week. Little
piece of news and current events that's more popular than
seat seventeen ce Auckland and Andy for the schoolholes, Ah,
the school holes seven. It's seven hundred and sixty thousand
people are going to be flying these next two which

(41:00):
doesn't include the thousands have already flun from private school,
which doesn't include the thousands who drive. We love travel
even in a cost of living crisis. Joe Biden won
handicap Now debates really turn out much this time last week, though,
the world changed, and that Joe Biden.

Speaker 3 (41:16):
To so much.

Speaker 2 (41:21):
As Joe Biden. Joe's on the buttons. Joe's on the
buttons deciding to stay as a massive mistake, as party
will pay the price for that. Donald Trump eight.

Speaker 14 (41:29):
How did they do the other name a broken down
pilot thread?

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Not just the debate, but two court cases turned his
way there. There has really been a bitter week for him.
Rishie Sonak four.

Speaker 1 (41:41):
My favorite meal generally is sandwiches.

Speaker 6 (41:44):
That is, I'm a big sandwich person.

Speaker 2 (41:46):
Worked hard to limit the damage, but as the classic
victim of the bloke who came along at the end
of the chain, and is there when the hammer goes down.
Emmanuel Macron tu idiotic move of the year. The Tories
were always going to get smashed, but the europe vote
didn't need to lead to what it did. This Sunday,
we'll see how bad that mistake was. July seven. July, No,

(42:07):
just July seven.

Speaker 10 (42:10):
Still this is going well this morning, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (42:13):
The producer doesn't laugh at the host July seven Because
a lot of logical good stuff happened this week. You
got your bright line test, to tax change, to fuel tax,
families support, more cops getting stuck into the crime. Were
a mile away from being out of this, of course,
but some good reassuring stuff was in there to give
us some hope. I think us hub for it's been

(42:34):
dragged out far too long, with far too many gnashing
and whaling their teeth from people who think they're a
mile more important than they actually are. The factors they
couldn't get an audience, to attract the ads, to pay
the bills, humanetize or die. But less media is not good.
So ultimately I'm afraid to say we're all losers, are
the worries? Seven? Yes, after the titans being able to
write a ship that's a skill. And given the cirks,

(42:55):
you want to say this school testing seven more common
sense for goodness sake Auckland seven because the city came
a ninth in the world as being livable now even
though it's not true, it's on a chart and that's
got to be good for your reputation. Southland eight most
productive successful region in the country. Go you good thing?

(43:16):
Are the all black seven? The first test is always
full of anticipation in England. Are a good way to start.
I reckon and we welcome in the raising years and
we love raising, don't we? And that's the week copies
on the website. And by the way, parts two and
three of this will be replaced tomorrow night in Dunedin
and sung instead of the national anthem asking Mike. When
Chris Bishop arted that brilliant line, I actually yelled out

(43:36):
of the television. Yes, Chris, he talks real sense. Some
commentator claim small apartments would make conditions squalid. Just because
something as small doesn't mean it needs to be filthy.
That's the key point, isn't it. It's you automatically associate
small with problems and I understand why people do that,
but you don't need to be a pig about it. Morning,

(43:57):
Mike Chris Bishop and Erica Stanford have my vote. Both
know the minutia, their respect to portfolios, both of which
needed so much work, and can articulate such that we
punters can understand it. Excellent ministers. Jonathan, you make a
very good point. I just thought, in a way the
Stanford announcement for testing in primary schools was somewhat I
was trying to somebody yesterday when I was buying a jersey.
And buying a jersey is another story, but in talking

(44:19):
to this person I was buying, did you say other jersey?
You've put another jewsey? You've got three jerseys now unfortunately
even more than that. Anyway, point was I said, and
they were asking me about, you know, the government, I said.
The difficulty with the government at the moment is that
there's so much going on, and there's so many announcements underway,
and there are so many things happening that they do
run the risk because part of what the government wants

(44:41):
to do is to get buy in, of course, and
for buying you need to have people understanding what's going
on and how much is going on, and of course
you run the risk of there being so much it
goes over some people's heads and they're too busy in life.
So but apart from that, I just thought the primary
announcement sort of got missed a little bit. Nick Ferrari
and Britain shortly the.

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Breakfast Show You Can Trust, the Mike Hosking Breakfast with
Bailey's Real Estate doing real estate differently since nineteen seventy three,
US togsadb.

Speaker 2 (45:10):
Interesting developments in AI. Couple of quick things a couple
of the States have done. In Hollywood have done deals
with a company called eleven Labs. Judy Garland's estate, they
digitally produce celebrity voiceovers. Also James Dean and Bert Reynolds
estate with Reader Rapp. So they take articles and use

(45:30):
letters and books and they turn them into voiceovers. So
you could buy an e book as voiced by Judy
Garland and you can do it legally because they've done
the deal. That's not as interesting to my mind as
El Michaels, who I think is one of the great
commentators of all time, and he does a bunch of stuff,
but mainly I watch him on NFL. But in BC

(45:51):
in America have got the Olympic coverage for the summer
in Paris. So their AI software is going to recreate
his voice to deliver daily recap, your daily Olympic recap
on peacock. It's a ten minute highlight package. Now you're
thinking to yourself, well OVERL Michael's is still alive, why
would he AI himself or allow himself to be aied.

(46:11):
And the reason is, and this is where AI comes
into its own. So the highlight package that they're going
to be able to put together will come in in
seven million different varieties, seven million different forms, pulled from
five thousand hours of live coverage. So in other words,
they can package up something that you want or as
unique to you, or offer you so many different options

(46:34):
you don't know which ways up and down. So in
other words, instead of just the old days it was
a ten minute highlight package and L would go into
a studio and going here's one hundred meters and hears
the high jump and here's the shot put, they will
do seven million different options for you. Now, obviously L
doesn't have time to voice seven million things each day
for a ten minute package. So they AI is voice
and he will come in seven million different forms now

(46:57):
that I think technologically is exciting. Twenty two minutes away
from eight, Ian Jones talk about the rugby and Tim
and Katie talk about welbs right, who knows what? Meantime?
Back to Britain history and folding. Voting day comes to
an end. Your government has been well. They're going to
be announced about nine o'clock this morning. The LBC Breakfast hades.

(47:19):
Nick Ferrari's with us Nick morning, Ye.

Speaker 12 (47:21):
Hi, good morning Apologists for the background noise. I'm at
a music festival my part. There's thirty Ellis Bexter playing
now and it would be mure on the dance floor
for me if I haven't come here with my girlfriend.
So good to have the aug in district with you guys.

Speaker 2 (47:36):
It's all well over there, everything's well over here. How
big a party of the Labor Party going to have
in a couple of hours do you think?

Speaker 24 (47:43):
Oh?

Speaker 12 (47:43):
Look, I think you're looking at a huge one. The
biggest majority to date is one hundred and seventy nine.
That the first Tony Blair presidency. The poll that closed
the elections in the UK last night is predicted two
hundred and twelve. That would take us back to the
majority we've not seen in the United Kingdom since the
mid eighteen hundreds. Personally, I don't think we get to

(48:05):
two hundred and twelve. You get to a whatping the
way a wing label with I would have thought it's
definitely three figures one, twenty one, thirty one, forty and
Rishie Sunak, who remember called the election in the middle
of a downpour, I think, is into a deluge of
voters going against the Conservatives.

Speaker 2 (48:21):
Does he lose his seat?

Speaker 12 (48:24):
It looks like he's okay. That's a very good question.
And had you asked me yeah recently two weeks ago,
I'd have thought there's a real problem. There's something quite
interesting in British politics. Voters like to think they have
the PM as their quote local MP. So yet he
was under pressure. I could now bore your listeners to
death with various polls that would show the swing would

(48:46):
be big enough. But I think it's this extraordinary thing
that the thing that the PM enjoys that you hang on.
So I think Rishi will survive. I don't know how
far down the batting or do you want to go,
But you're looking at chancels and Defense secretaries, who I
think a very nervous tonight.

Speaker 2 (49:01):
Is Starmer up to running such a large party in government?

Speaker 12 (49:06):
What a good question. I refer you to some TV debates,
one at which he was started to say about how
his father was a tool maker. Everybody laughed, and everybody
laughs because we have heard this line every single time,
and he didn't take well to it. His issue is
simply this. If he has a stalking majority, that means

(49:26):
that just as the Conservatives are riven into and I
fully accept that, so are the Labor Party. There is
a hardcore, a momentum side of the Labor Party that
is very much to the left, that is up for
increasing taxation, up for the Palestinian side of the Middle
East debate. We are about to see Sekeir Starmer's political skills.
This is the job he's dreamt of since being a boy.

(49:49):
I will tell you now he will cross the threshold
at some point later to night English British time, or
tomorrow morning. Then in many ways, actually his biggest challenge begins.

Speaker 2 (49:58):
There a voting today for policies that they know and
understand in Labor or simply because they don't like the
Tories anymore the latter.

Speaker 12 (50:08):
I think if you could simply have candidates and say
we don't want the tours, they would win every single
possible seat. Look, I'm old enough to have been around
back when Tony Blair first came to power, and I
can tell you there was a genuine zeal. There was
an enthusiasm.

Speaker 3 (50:22):
There was a.

Speaker 12 (50:22):
Belief in a better Britain than Tony Blair. As a
young prime minister espouse. So Kier will go in actually
as one of the older prime ministers when he starts work.
Admittedly we're not looking at the United States situation here,
but it is very much dissatisfaction with a Conservatives forty
and a bit years how pubble has been completely drained.

(50:43):
That is what's driving the votes in the UK.

Speaker 2 (50:45):
And Nick Farag, how many seats do you reckon?

Speaker 12 (50:49):
Okay? Uh Fas told me at the start he thought
he could get to five. I think he's binging in
a little. The predictions are he gets three, he wins
eight time out remember eighth Sky. He becomes a winther
In Tracton in Essex, the second biggest exit voting community
or constituency as the whole of the country. He gets

(51:10):
that Richard Ties, the man your listeners won't know, but
he's big in in politics here. He gets probably three
to four I would suggest, but remember our bazaar first
part for post system, he'll get plenty of votes.

Speaker 2 (51:22):
He won't get plenty of theirp Good to see you, mate,
You go and enjoy your party. Appreciate it very much.
Nick Ferrari out of LBC this morning. It is seventeen
away from eight hosking Michae's Coto your estate going to
AI your voice once you've gone, says he'll beacon cash
and and keep you on the radio for the next
fifty years. Boss is threatening that all the time. So yes,
we will imagine seven million versions of Mike each morning.
Mind boggles, Yes it does, Mike. I just want to
correct you on your good comments with Wanganui and hear

(51:44):
Chatham's earlier on this morning in New zeal And. Haven't
been servicing Wanganui since they dumped us in August of sixteen.
Thank you, John, appreciate your correspondence. I mentioned it earlier
on because Sammy went to Wanganu. He was going to
Wanganui last weekend. We got a little cold and Mum
wouldn't let him leave the house. So his partner, though,
went to chatter, went here. Chathams I said, how'd you
get to Wanganui and they went air. Chathams I said,

(52:06):
so eir Chatham service as Wanganui and he went while
here in New zealand's too expensive.

Speaker 19 (52:10):
Ha.

Speaker 2 (52:11):
But in there's the story and the pending apology sixteen two.

Speaker 3 (52:15):
Co make Costle Breakfast, Mike.

Speaker 2 (52:18):
The shoe box apartment ban was pure elitist arrogance. It's
basically the government telling you if you're not able to
afford a bigger home it's thirty square meters, you're not
allowed to own a home. It's a very good point, Mike,
just want to correct you. Yes, Wong So Sami. The
only reason I got interested in this was because I thought,
how well served as Wanganui with two airlines coming into
the city. And I thought, Jesus Wanganui can have two airlines.

(52:38):
Then what's all this provincial moaning going on that they're
not well serviced? So I went back just now to
Sami and I said, check that tech, Sami, and see
if this person John from Wanganui is an idiot or
whether you've just been making up stories and Sammy goes,
oh no, no, No, John's an idiot. I said cool.
I said, go book yourself a ticket to Wanganui right now,
and he goes and he comes back. He goes, actually,

(53:00):
I might I might have been going to Palmerston North,
which of course is Kauseami doesn't get out of his
house much. Is a different city to Wanganui. So when
he said he didn't go he went here Chathams because
he in New Zealand to Wanganu was too expensive. What
he meant was it was too expensive to go to
Palmerston North, despite the fact he'd paid the money to
go to Palmerson North but didn't realize it wasn't wangan Nui.

(53:20):
I said, can you or can you not book a
ticket right now to Wanganu. He goes, no, I can
go to Parmerston North. Though you see what I'm dealing
with on a daily basis, it's almost impossible to believe
this program is as successful as it is.

Speaker 19 (53:31):
So.

Speaker 15 (53:31):
But John, I think the reason is is that we
constantly fact check ourselves exactly and that Sam has been
misleading the puddle.

Speaker 2 (53:38):
It hasn't got a clue face up about it. That's
true at least at least we're honest about it. Eventually.
By the way, I've got a friend of the family's
going to the F one at Silverstone this weekend. He's
eighteen years old and he's he just cannot believe his luck.
Anyone I'm reading this morning the ticket average ticket price
to go to the F one this weekend at Silverstone
as nine hundred dollars nine hundred dollars. And do you

(53:59):
know how many people are prepared to pay nine hundred
dollars at least to go to the silver Stone F
one this week in four hundred and eighty thousand. Do
the math. By the way, Oli Bearman. Just while I'm
boring you, Liss with my F one fascination, Oli Bearman,
who's a real talent young guy, has been signed this
morning by hass. The reason I keep mentioning all this
stuff is where does Liam fit? Where does Liam fit?

(54:22):
So that's another seat gone. We've got the RB seat
still available. Allegedly, according to Helmet Marco, Williams may or
may not have a seat available, depending on what happens
with Logan. Sergeant Logan hasn't officially been sacked as yet,
but we're running out of seats and we're running out
of options, and.

Speaker 10 (54:42):
So they don't have a back seat or a passenger.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
They got no back seat, they've got no passenger seat
and they don't get along anyway.

Speaker 10 (54:48):
So you know, would be a quicker drive from Parison
to north to question.

Speaker 2 (54:54):
How let's do a question, how long would it take
Liam Lawson to to end eight?

Speaker 3 (55:03):
The Mike hosting breakfast with.

Speaker 2 (55:06):
A seven way from eight?

Speaker 4 (55:07):
So here we go.

Speaker 2 (55:08):
The first Test of the season. Always one of anticipation,
of course, All Blacks versus England, great prospect of a contest,
and that's before you get to the Robertson part of them.
So for what it's worth when it comes to England,
we've won thirty three of the last forty three tests.
And Ian Jones is with us on this. Ian, very
good morning to you.

Speaker 16 (55:23):
Yeah, good morning, Mike, Good morning to your listeners. Thanks
for having me.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Not at all you're looking forward to it, Yeah, I am.

Speaker 16 (55:29):
Energy levels very high, as you say, lots of anticipation.
First test. Traditionally the All Blacks a little bit lusty.
But the great thing about this game and what sport
needs in general, Mike, is the unknown who is going
to win actually don't know, which makes it even more exciting.
And the way that Scott Robinson and his team has
brought us you and me fans of the game on

(55:51):
board along for the right long for the journey sold
the game makes it really really intriguing. So looking forward
to it.

Speaker 2 (55:58):
I just like the fact that we're not opening with
Australia or South Africa once again. You know it's got
that same old, same old field. This is a bit
different and I like that a little unknown.

Speaker 16 (56:06):
They haven't been down here for a while. They are
great rivals, are we need to stand up in an
unknown quality all sides. Think for a fan like you
and I put this on edge, we should feel like
this we are part of the team. Scott Robinson's bringing
us as part of the all back team, and we
keep saying, you know, when this country is behind one
all backs, we are a very very strong force.

Speaker 2 (56:28):
I was told this morning it's not a sellout and
that astonishes me because one it's the All Blacks and
two it's it's Dunedin's not your biggest stadium.

Speaker 16 (56:36):
I was told it was a sellout, so we're big
to differ there. I think you'll find it is going
to be a sellout. I know at the start of
the week they had eight hundred tickets, so.

Speaker 6 (56:44):
It is gone good.

Speaker 16 (56:46):
I hope no one's return their ticket, mate, because I'm
flying down there tomorrow and I want to see a sellout.

Speaker 2 (56:51):
No, you're not flying via Wanganui, perchance, are you?

Speaker 3 (56:53):
Ian?

Speaker 17 (56:54):
No?

Speaker 16 (56:55):
Not, but mentioned Wanganui and the great thing that Wanganui
Mike Stephen Petted Fetter. Pathways are important to this game.
Went from Wonganui heart and Rugby, Taranaki NPC Rugby Super
Rugby All Backs one incredible pathway that shows any kid
out there in New Zealand you can make it from
wherever you are. Very important. Heartland NPC Super Rugby All

(57:18):
Backs brilliant.

Speaker 2 (57:19):
Fantastic call it for me. Who do you think all
blacks by?

Speaker 16 (57:21):
What are all backs? Just because I'm very passionate about
the allbacks? But as an unknown all backs by let's
ongoing twelve year twelve plus.

Speaker 2 (57:30):
Okay, good on you mate, well you are you thoroughly
enjoy your time. They appreciate yours as always on this
Friday morning, Ian Jones, who's doing a little bit of work.
I note for the for the BBC Mike chat GPT
says twenty two and a half minutes to drive from
Palmers to north of Wanganui in an F one with
no speed limits. Very good. Palmboutes answer on Wanganui. I
mean it takes a real talent to take a left ball,

(57:52):
dumb question from Hosking and work in a player to
That's absolutely That's how you get a job for the BEA.
That's how you get a job for the BBC. Brock
Gilchris Mike portioned Townsville this weekend as supercars. He's now
going to raise in the career a cup. Go our
Metacana boy, Mel well done. That's exciting. Went to Silverstone
Mike a couple of years ago. Still at the end
of Maggots and Becketts. Fantastic, highly recommend I don't blame you.

(58:13):
I wouldn't mind standing at the end of Maggots and
Becketts as well. Oh no, Mike, I'm from Pami and
do business in Wanganui. It's easier for me to say
I'm from Wellington or Auckland. Few people from Wanganu. We
just fell out of love with Sam, I know. I mean,
what do you do? All I can do for Provincial
New Zealand is my very best. But when you've got
clowns flying here, chathams claiming to be in New Zealand,
and all sorts of aviational facilities that simply don't exist.

(58:35):
In other words, journalists making stuff up. Yet again, it's
a hard road. Ho Kate Hawksby, who's been very, very
need to treat her gently this week. The dog has
been exceedingly ill all week. The little lewis the Scucci
Tucci Matucci we believe had pancreatitis. And for a period

(58:56):
of time there when we say we believe had pancrea titus,
we off that out of the beat in the first
eighteen thousand dollars worth of visits, and we never got
a confirmed diagnosis of pancreatitis. But certainly we were grateful
to hand over such a large amount of money to
get a rough guess as to what might be going on.
So so we need to be gentle with her. They're
up next Home for the News, The.

Speaker 1 (59:18):
Big News, Bold Opinions, The Mic Hosking, Breakfast with Avida.

Speaker 3 (59:24):
Live, The Age You Feel News Talk said Bee.

Speaker 25 (59:27):
I got a friend named Whiskey Sound. He was my
booney rat buddy, for a year and now he said,
as my country just a little off track. Took them
twenty five years to welcome me back, but it's better
than not coming back at all. Many a good man.
I saw a fall, and even now, every time I dream,

(59:48):
I hear the men and the monkeys in the jungle screen.

Speaker 2 (59:53):
This is five special postumious leave me and the understand
the least, of course, this is stuff from nineteen ninety three.
Johnny Cash Songwriter is the name of the album. It's
been released by his son. But they got a whole
bunch of stuff from Rick Rubin's time. And then they
started looking around game, well, hang on, what else is
about the place? And they found eleven demos that recorded

(01:00:16):
in nineteen ninety three at a stepdaughter, Rosie's elis I
studios in Nashville in a period when he was out
of contract, and no one's ever heard them before. And
some of them, I mean, this is songs been released before.
That's one of the brilliant songs. Anyway, there's eleven tracks
that you may or may not have heard that these
versions you will have never heard before. Spotlight Hello out there.
It's a pretty good song. I listened to that the
other day, sing it pretty soon like a soldier, soldier boy,

(01:00:39):
poor valley girl, She's sang sweet baby, James, Johnny Cash
can't have an eight day.

Speaker 1 (01:00:43):
A week in review with two degrees bringing smart business
solutions to the table.

Speaker 2 (01:00:48):
I was going to tell the time and it's passed.
Eight term. Good morning, Katie, good morning, good morning love.

Speaker 26 (01:00:54):
A little man in black, My goodness, that's fantastic.

Speaker 2 (01:00:57):
Little man and black. Well, I am a little man
and I am where black this morning. But it's not
what you were meaning. I'm taking it. But imagine I
behind material that gets released later in life and you
sort of live on through that. That's nice.

Speaker 26 (01:01:11):
Say yeah, well, I love for the release of your
unpublished solid collection that you're working on.

Speaker 2 (01:01:18):
Oh it'll be good when it comes, by the way.
Another apology to make on the program this morning, Elliot Smith.
And this was Ian Jones who came on with the details.
Elliot Smith on early edition, I mean, thank god it
was my final early edition this morning. I don't have
to face the acrimony and embarrassment come Monday. But Elliot
Smith alluded to the fact that it wasn't to sell out.

(01:01:38):
The All Blacks went to sell out. It is in
fact to sell out. So that's encouraging because of the
all blacks can't sell out. No one can sell out.

Speaker 26 (01:01:47):
I'm glad to clarify that I love the riff by
the way, with you and Glenn about did you know
it was the anniversary of Caesar sellers?

Speaker 12 (01:01:53):
Did you know?

Speaker 4 (01:01:54):
Did you know?

Speaker 26 (01:01:54):
Did you know?

Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Good story? It's not being widely covered enough today by
the media. No, the media seemed obsessior than this country. Yes,
it's pretty five. Well, it is one hundred years since
the caesar salad. Alex Cardini invented the caesar salad one
hundred years ago in Mexico in nineteen twenty four. I
mean that's I mean little did they know I would
still like a Waldorf over a Caesar personally, Katie.

Speaker 11 (01:02:18):
I made a beautiful one the other day, didn't I
Apple and fennyl. It was kind of like a Waldorf
with toasted walnuts, but more really.

Speaker 2 (01:02:24):
Apple and fennyl.

Speaker 9 (01:02:26):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:02:26):
Yeah, so basically an apple and penyl salad as opposed
to a Waldorf. But it was delicious, no question about that.

Speaker 11 (01:02:31):
Don't talk of town.

Speaker 2 (01:02:32):
It was a great I wasn't talking it down. I
was talking it up. It go as far as the
fenyl goes. Coun't beat fennel ye into a bit of penyl.

Speaker 12 (01:02:38):
Tim take the leave it, take to leave it.

Speaker 16 (01:02:42):
Hey, I've got a question.

Speaker 26 (01:02:44):
Do I do I look like the Warriors coach Andrew Webster?

Speaker 2 (01:02:48):
You've paid out? Have you even approached bad question? Because
the moment you say something like that, you plant the
seed of a thought in people's mind and they go, actually,
now that you say that, yes.

Speaker 23 (01:02:57):
Yeah, now that you say okay, so okay.

Speaker 26 (01:03:00):
So guess what I'm out and about at the mall.

Speaker 12 (01:03:03):
And some bloke walks past and goes get a and
I say, do I know you?

Speaker 26 (01:03:08):
He said, you're Andrew Webster, You're the Warriors coach.

Speaker 6 (01:03:11):
Did you go with it?

Speaker 3 (01:03:13):
Did you say you did go with it?

Speaker 16 (01:03:15):
Yes?

Speaker 26 (01:03:15):
I did?

Speaker 12 (01:03:16):
I ran with it.

Speaker 26 (01:03:17):
I said, yep, yep, I'll tell you what. How about
that massacre on the Gold Coast? He said, what were you?

Speaker 12 (01:03:23):
What were you thinking?

Speaker 26 (01:03:24):
Bro? I'm like, I know the schmuck called Mike Hosking.
I got him in to coach that game, and that's
what happened.

Speaker 2 (01:03:32):
And how did he react to that?

Speaker 26 (01:03:36):
He's like, he said, just the look of resignation, shock
and recognition on his face.

Speaker 23 (01:03:43):
He knew it was you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:44):
I don't think you're big enough to be honest. I
mean you're sort of looking a little, but I don't
think you're big enough. How's the doggy?

Speaker 25 (01:03:49):
KD.

Speaker 2 (01:03:49):
Because everyone's deeply interested in our doggie.

Speaker 11 (01:03:53):
They well, it's interested. What they should know is that
we've had a very suptical and such as my dedication
to the dog and to.

Speaker 2 (01:04:01):
Kady Katy Caddy. Sorry because you don't listen to the program.
What I do is I build up to the segment
with a few key clues, and so there's no point
of you coming on now and just reiterating what I've
already said and you didn't hear in the last half hour.
We're up to speed with the dog. What we just
want is this morning's prognosis.

Speaker 11 (01:04:17):
Well, I was just going to actually explain, because you
managed to just skirt around the edges. I think when
you do make your points on here that such as
my dedication to the dog and your show and your
well being, that I slipt all week in a separate
room with dogs. I could get up with her every
couple of.

Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Hours that had nothing to do with the dog and
you know.

Speaker 17 (01:04:35):
It, and you know do you know what?

Speaker 19 (01:04:38):
Do you know what?

Speaker 11 (01:04:39):
I'm like a zombie who hasn't left the house apart
from the go some time to the vet. And I'm
just like barely functioning. It's like having a newborn all
over again. Just no sleep at all. And what Mike
was He went shopping and brought yet more colds for himself, bought.

Speaker 2 (01:04:56):
The jerseys clo Oh my goodness, it's a good question.
The reason do you get for Kate? You're honor.

Speaker 26 (01:05:05):
In the trenches?

Speaker 3 (01:05:06):
What do you get for your bride?

Speaker 11 (01:05:08):
With nothing for me? But he's still be going. And
I got this one, and I got this and they've
got more coming in other colors.

Speaker 5 (01:05:13):
So I bought it those And I'm like, oh my god.

Speaker 10 (01:05:16):
How many can we get to the bottom of this?
How many jerseys have you actually bought it?

Speaker 2 (01:05:20):
It's not wise to say numbers, Glenn, Glenn, it's not
it's not wise to say numbers.

Speaker 26 (01:05:24):
Oh my god, you're honestly this is These are like
the conversations we have with our kids.

Speaker 12 (01:05:29):
You're literally married to a seven year old.

Speaker 2 (01:05:31):
No, here's what happened. Actually, I'll tell you what happened
after the break because there's a good story behind this.
Thirteen past eight, the Mike asking breakfast. It's sixteen past eight,
the week in review.

Speaker 3 (01:05:44):
With two degrees, fighting for fear for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:05:47):
In my defense term, and this is important to put
it on the record. I went into town yesterday. It's
the third Thursday at two o'clock. And you know what
happens on the third Thursday at two o'clock, don't you?

Speaker 3 (01:05:58):
And that's how great?

Speaker 12 (01:05:59):
Ca Okay?

Speaker 2 (01:06:01):
So I walk in at two o'clock, as I have
done for the last twenty five years.

Speaker 3 (01:06:08):
Wow.

Speaker 2 (01:06:09):
Krisden, who is an exotic Scandinavian woman who stands behind
the counter and runs the place, looks at me and
puts three fingers up as though that means something to me.
And I go what and she goes, it's three o'clock.
I said, what when did it become three o'clock? It's
two o'clock and it's been two o'clock for twenty five years. No,
it's three o'clock. And then I said, what's gone wrong?

(01:06:32):
And so the upshot of it was is this time
and next time is three o'clock. And then it goes
back to the next twenty five years of two o'clock.
So something went wrong and so they could offer me
no service. So I was in town in downtown orking bosses,
downtown Auckland, taking life into taking my life into my
own hands, and I thought, oh my goodness, what can

(01:06:52):
I do other than continue to support the wool industry
of this country. Having gone into the marine, you know
business last week and brought myself a Marino jersey? What
else can I do to fill this out? Then to
go and avail myself of the opportunity that I've suddenly
discovered and purchased myself some more Marino, which is what
I did, And that's all I'm doing. I'm trying to
support the farmer of this country.

Speaker 15 (01:07:13):
But are you layering up? Like what's going on? Are
you putting one Jusey over the top of another. He's
been wearing the same jersey all week.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
Now I got multiple.

Speaker 26 (01:07:22):
He is layering up. He's layering up the victimology.

Speaker 16 (01:07:26):
So it's like my twenty to twenty five year old.

Speaker 26 (01:07:30):
Here appointment was changed.

Speaker 12 (01:07:32):
I didn't know what to do. I had to go
into town for me.

Speaker 26 (01:07:35):
It's not anyone else's fault. It's your fault.

Speaker 10 (01:07:38):
I claim has like a goal is kind of an
argument to me.

Speaker 2 (01:07:41):
And I came, came it sounds like Taylor Swift and
I got home.

Speaker 26 (01:07:45):
You made me do I got agency mate.

Speaker 2 (01:07:48):
I got home within the hour. And Katie goes to
me and she goes, oh, you're home early, And so
I see it. Not only am I home early? Look
what I got?

Speaker 26 (01:07:57):
Look what I got me.

Speaker 11 (01:07:58):
Yeah, I've had the big time. And then he's starts
pulling out jersey after jersey after jersey and telling me
how many more resordered. I'm like, but you just goought
Jesseys last week. You say, yeah, but I loved them
and I wanted to bore jerseys.

Speaker 22 (01:08:07):
Do you.

Speaker 11 (01:08:10):
I don't know how you can. I don't know how
you can do that. I just don't know how you
can do that, and he goes, I loved every.

Speaker 23 (01:08:19):
Don't castigate me.

Speaker 26 (01:08:21):
I was having the time of my life.

Speaker 2 (01:08:24):
If I gave you Tim, if I gave you to
him one thousand dollars to give up your car for
five weeks, would.

Speaker 3 (01:08:33):
You make it?

Speaker 20 (01:08:38):
No?

Speaker 7 (01:08:38):
No, no.

Speaker 2 (01:08:39):
The one thousand dollars is based on the cost of
you running the car for five weeks, So all I'm
doing is getting you into doing something different by way
of transportation, and so you're saving the cost of running
that car as an exercise.

Speaker 3 (01:08:50):
Will to do it?

Speaker 6 (01:08:51):
That's what?

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
But that's what he has done in America.

Speaker 12 (01:08:55):
No, I wouldn't.

Speaker 26 (01:08:55):
I wouldn't because just as Zuki swept and I can,
I can run that up beyond two hundred and thirty
for five weeks.

Speaker 2 (01:09:02):
Okay, what about you, Kadi? Would you give it up
for a thousand bucks?

Speaker 11 (01:09:05):
No, I probably wouldn't because I just find well, because
I'd have to rely on other transports, which in Auckland
is completely dysfunctional.

Speaker 4 (01:09:11):
Doesn't we Let me tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:09:12):
Think, because this will be another thing that you missed
from the mic hosting breakfast this week is guess guess
what the biggest uptake of transportation was for people who
entered into this experiment when they couldn't use their car
because they got their one thousand bucks. Guess what they
did by way of getting about the place. Mike, good guess,

(01:09:33):
But wrong, Tim? Did you hear the story?

Speaker 20 (01:09:36):
No?

Speaker 12 (01:09:36):
I didn't. I didn't.

Speaker 26 (01:09:38):
I'm just I'm trying to think. I mean, bust will train.

Speaker 2 (01:09:41):
No, so you'll say bustle train. Now this America that
are walking walking was the answer. They walked. Seventy seventy
three percent of people walked, which which it no doubt,
which tells you what though, we.

Speaker 11 (01:10:00):
They're not as spread out of the city as Bookland
the way they did this experiment because for many people, yeah,
it was they were somewhere else.

Speaker 26 (01:10:07):
It's a good point. Good point, kay, was it was?
I bet this wasn't a Los Angeles.

Speaker 2 (01:10:11):
Los Angeles in New York. Los Angeles was one of
the cities, Los Angeles one of the cities. Were you
too moaning? Yesterday? Chris Bishop kdy about balconies as well,
nineteen square meters were because I take it.

Speaker 11 (01:10:22):
I take his point. If you don't want to live
in a shoe box, don't. They're looking to solve the
problem that everybody across the board degrees is a major issue.
Why not try something and you know, and get it done.
If that works, great, If it doesn't, don't, don't have it.
I mean, personally, I don't want them going up next
to me because it sounds like plum It sounds very op.

Speaker 2 (01:10:40):
Both so small nimbi example there, ladies and gentlemen, just
a little bit of nimbi ism on the Mica Square. Personally,
I don't want them next to me. But if somebody
wants to live in nineteen square meters over there, they're
more than welcome to.

Speaker 26 (01:10:53):
Whoa wait, wait, you don't want this?

Speaker 11 (01:10:55):
Don't want this is taken over by these horrible you know,
shoe departments. But I also people live here.

Speaker 26 (01:11:02):
We remember who was doing the English to through English
accent as.

Speaker 12 (01:11:06):
The floak who blew what? How much?

Speaker 26 (01:11:09):
We don't know on one hundred jerseys at the more
recently because it's all everyone else.

Speaker 2 (01:11:13):
That's coorting the New Zealand wool industry. I mean, you
can't blame me for being patriotic at the end of
the day, can you, Hey.

Speaker 10 (01:11:23):
Listen to me your.

Speaker 3 (01:11:27):
Life.

Speaker 2 (01:11:27):
Seven hundred and fifty thousand people are going on holiday.
Are you one of those people going on holiday and
flying around the country.

Speaker 12 (01:11:33):
No, no, we're not.

Speaker 26 (01:11:34):
I've got a few days off over the school holidays.
But we'll see what we You know what, maybe maybe
instead of driving we could walk somewhere.

Speaker 2 (01:11:41):
Why not let me know how that goes. Nice to
see you, Tim Wilson Kate hawksby for another Friday morning,
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and you must stop paying too much with Chemist Warehouse husky.
I love you guys. Keep up the laughs. Hope the
expensive dog is now okay. Actually, we didn't get to
the end of the dog. I think the dog is okay.
The dog bounced back yesterday.

Speaker 10 (01:12:52):
Well that's a good news. He didn't get to the
end of the dog.

Speaker 2 (01:12:54):
Didn't get to the end of the dog. Now, it
didn't get to the end of the dog. Morning Mike,
all those might you said, she looked there were cup
date A couple of days this week. I thought, bloody hell,
this looks a bit serious. You know when dog is
sort very a bad day and you think, oh whatever,
you'll come right. But then a couple of days here,
I thought, Hm, anyway, morning Mike, all those new jerseys
will be perfect to tire for living in christ You
to make the move, That's what I'm building up to.

(01:13:15):
I'm doing it surreptitiously. You busted me, Mike. Did you
have to buy a new Scott's chess for the jerseys? No,
it's funny you should say that, though, because I was
shuffling draw stuff yesterday, working out where's.

Speaker 3 (01:13:25):
All this go?

Speaker 2 (01:13:26):
Because you don't want to hang a marino on a hanger,
Because of course it MisShapes the jersey. So you've got
to put it in a drawer.

Speaker 10 (01:13:34):
Or a shelf you can, or a shelf you could
shelf it.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I don't have shelves though, as my unfortunate I'm not
like you, Glenn. I just have drawers and a couple
of coat hangers.

Speaker 10 (01:13:42):
That's where you're allowed.

Speaker 2 (01:13:43):
I only live in nineteen square meters mate, and I
haven't even got a balcony. I can't even put my
washing out on the line. For God's sake, there's no
balcony out there. If you want to support New Zealand
Mike wool carpet, you have well got wall carpet in
my house. Don't you worry about that?

Speaker 3 (01:13:55):
Mate?

Speaker 2 (01:13:55):
But that's strong wool, which is different to find wool,
which is what marino is.

Speaker 10 (01:13:59):
You do slag in there?

Speaker 2 (01:14:01):
Yeah, there's some slag go some slag wall as well.
But you're dealing with two different wall markets, mate, don't
text me on the wall markets. You'd been going about
the wall markets. Let's go across the Tasman to Murray
after the News, which is next.

Speaker 1 (01:14:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:25):
That be, Mike, where do you buy your jerseys from?

Speaker 3 (01:14:27):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:14:28):
Yeah, various places, but it is Jersey Shop is one
of my places I like to go. Eddie makes a
good jersey. When I was growing up, Mike in the
nineteen sixties, phenyl was a noxious weed?

Speaker 3 (01:14:39):
Is that true?

Speaker 2 (01:14:40):
Would that be possible? Why would it be a noxious
weed when we put it into cellar? If, by the way,
you ever want to use phenyl and orange as an
orange and olive oil. It's the simplest thing in the world.
Probably a bit of salt, the an Himalayan salt or
Utah desert salt. Simplest thing in the world. Get a

(01:15:00):
old Italian classic. Why would it be a noxious weed
when you eat it? That seems the stupidest thing in
the world. Either that, Sammy, It's well, check with Sammy
for fact checking. Is this person an idiot from Long
and ee or it sounds like it? Sorry, mate, you
sound like an idiot from Long and Thanks Sam. Good stuff?
If Raiser, Mike, If Raser loses his first test tomorrow,

(01:15:22):
does that become a disposable razor? That's not bad. Actually
I quite like that. Twenty two minutes away.

Speaker 1 (01:15:29):
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Speaker 2 (01:15:35):
Now make Murray Olds is in from Australia morning.

Speaker 12 (01:15:37):
How are you.

Speaker 6 (01:15:38):
Good morning, Michael. You're a pretty busy week over here.

Speaker 24 (01:15:41):
Lots of look more moving parts in politics than your rolls, Royce.

Speaker 2 (01:15:48):
Very good. Fatima Payman is the funniest woman in the
world because when she goes crossing this as she quit yesterday,
crossing the Senate floor was the most dificult decision of
my entire political career until you then look into her
political career, which is what is at three or four
minutes old.

Speaker 24 (01:16:08):
Yeah, I know, but look, it's such a bad look
for labor. She's twenty nine years old, she's the daughter
of she was born in Carble. She's a refugee, came
here twenty nine, smart, photogenic, a Muslim, really intelligent.

Speaker 6 (01:16:24):
Where's the he jab? I mean, what's not to like?

Speaker 24 (01:16:26):
But Heaven's above. Labor strategists are absolute dopes. They didn't
see this coming. It looks like a bunch of old
men Michael in expensive suits bashing up a young rising star.
Now she wants the Palestinian state. Now Labor is only
prepared to go as far as calling for a two
state solution at this point. So what's the big deal here, Well,

(01:16:50):
Labor says, oh, she broke our rules. I mean, wake
up to yourselves. It's so last century. I mean, please,
Labor Party wants to be a contemporary party. You're going
to have to wake up to your Salves Fellows because
they are absolutely out of touch and people are marking
them down over here, Mike, as you well know they aren't.

Speaker 2 (01:17:07):
The Poles don't look good in fact, the polls this week,
and they it ductails into in this way. He won't
be calling an early election, I don't think. But I
would have thought on the surface when you announced you're
not going to NATO in Washington, and that is a big,
big deal. Even our Prime minister is going to NATO,
you think hold on early election. But then you look
at the Poles, I mean, why would you go give
them the mess he's in at the moment.

Speaker 6 (01:17:28):
Well, very good point. He's not going.

Speaker 24 (01:17:30):
He's going to send the Defense Minister and Deputy Prime
Minister Miles, which is fine.

Speaker 6 (01:17:34):
Elbow's better the last two NATO meetings here.

Speaker 24 (01:17:37):
Look, just going back to payment because it's related to
senator payment. She's quit Labor and now going to sit
as an independent, and that's why part of the reason
why Albaneze is not going.

Speaker 6 (01:17:47):
He is furious with this young woman.

Speaker 24 (01:17:49):
Labor wanted to hit Monday of this week new financial
year in Australia. He wanted to hit the ground running
with all the great rosie hosannas about tax cuts for
all all cheaper power bills, blah blah blah. Instead he's
putting out of fire started by this young woman from
Western Australia. That's another big reason why he is staying here.
He wants to prosecute that message given the poles are

(01:18:11):
so skinny and tight.

Speaker 6 (01:18:13):
Here's the other thing that Labour's now apparently doing.

Speaker 24 (01:18:15):
According to the Australian, remember that bonfight about Barnaby Joyce
and was brought born or a New Zealand parent or something.
This young lady was born in Afghanistan. All of a sudden,
the Australians saying Labour strategists, hello, hello, you mean a
sleep you clowns. They are waking up with the fact
they could maybe knock her out of the Senate anyway
by playing that card.

Speaker 6 (01:18:35):
The fact that she's a dual citizen. So it's just
such a mess. It's unbelievably missing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:40):
Speaking of Barnaby Joyce, do you notice the improvement now
he's off the booze with the weight loss and stuff.

Speaker 24 (01:18:46):
Well, no, I heard him interview the other morning and
I'm thinking he must have had an early morning drink
because he's still as incoherent as ever. But look he
says he feels a whole lot better, lost a lot
of weight, blood pressure down, and look he is up.
I'm not sure what the New Zealand equivalent is. I
mean he he's a real deal. He's a real person

(01:19:07):
masquerading as a politician. Most of them walk around so
po faced with a brewstick up their bums.

Speaker 6 (01:19:13):
They get at the Parliament, they think they're special.

Speaker 24 (01:19:15):
Parnaby Joyce is just this country guy who was stumbled
into politics and he makes a mess. He's a bit
like how Boris Johnson, I suppose. And he is a
real person and he calls it like he sees it.
That's why he keeps, notwithstanding all his dreadful sort of
self impost calamities, he keeps getting returned as the Member
for New England up there tell you.

Speaker 2 (01:19:35):
I've read a very good piece of the Reserve Bank
of Australia, a very good piece in the Sydney Morning
Herald this week about a couple of reasons why they're
going to have to hike rates again. It looked good
for you guys for a while. And I always compare
you to us, because of course half of this country
is leaving to go across there. But it looked good
for you guys for a while. There has been no
recession and the inflation was getting under control. But then
all of a sudden, bang its back and your job

(01:19:58):
market's reasonably solid, and you know, I mean, how is
it that the RB. I mean they don't care because
they're not voted in, But how is it the RB's
going to go oh sorry, rates are going up not
once but maybe twice, which is what this article said
without Australian's heads exploding.

Speaker 24 (01:20:13):
Well, that's another reason why Albleze's staying home. The Reserve
Bank is independent, and the Reserve Bank looked at the
tea leaves last month, a meeting again at the end
of August early September, and there's every chance that the
official cash right could be lifted by a quarter of
one percent, And you say, why, why on earth? Because
the economy is on its knees. People are choosing. We've

(01:20:34):
had this conversation make between eating and heating. People are
doing it so darn tough over here. Look, they're sleeping
in their cars. One report this week that a fellow.

Speaker 6 (01:20:43):
Had died in his car.

Speaker 24 (01:20:45):
Now the Reserve Bank is looking at the numbers, as
you say, employments strong, Inflation spiked up, and they're saying
that's because everybody was jumping intending money, trying to get
into financial ears, specials on on things for the home, electronics,
new computers, and so on and so forth.

Speaker 6 (01:21:05):
The fact of the matter is the Reserve.

Speaker 24 (01:21:07):
Bank knows that inflation is the number one enemy of
the economy. The Reserve Bank wants that inflation rate down
between two and three percent.

Speaker 6 (01:21:17):
Right now it's four percent.

Speaker 24 (01:21:18):
That's intolerable, it is unsustainable. And the Reserve Bank has
made no secret of the fact. If it's things it's
going to inflation is going to tick up again, they
will move in and go bang, they'll smack the economy
once again. And as you say, they're not elected, they're
not beholding the government nor to the electorate.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
I only got about thirty forty seconds left. But this
debate I'm following it with a great deal ofmentitrist because
the international students have not come back to this country
either way. They used to. It used to be a
five billion dollar industry for us. They've flooded your place
to the point where unfortunately it's become political and the
business community going, well, we need people, we need labor,
we need skills, all of that, and you're going to
cap these people and make it all political. We're in

(01:21:56):
deep trouble. So how divisive is this bait?

Speaker 6 (01:22:01):
Very very much. It's and you know, again another political conundrum.

Speaker 12 (01:22:05):
What do you do.

Speaker 24 (01:22:06):
We've got that there's a housing crisis over here, and
you say it's a five billion dollar industry in New Zealand,
it's worth forty four zero billion over here. International students
or fifty percent of the students at Sydney University, one
of the Sandstone unis with it's nose in the air,
we're so jolly good here.

Speaker 6 (01:22:25):
Fifty percent are foreign students.

Speaker 3 (01:22:27):
And what do they bring?

Speaker 24 (01:22:28):
They bring degrees that cost them three or four times
as much as as the cost for an Australian student.

Speaker 6 (01:22:35):
That's why the unis are desperate.

Speaker 24 (01:22:36):
They've got their hands out begging international students to come
to us, and the federal government's got this political conundrum.

Speaker 6 (01:22:44):
You've got a housing crisis, You've.

Speaker 24 (01:22:46):
Got people saying, hang on a second, why are we
getting hundreds of thousands of these students coming in? Because
we need the money. The university is saying, hang on
a second. If you stopped the students coming to us,
we're going to our bottom. Our ballot sheet's going to
look dreadful. And the poor old vice chancellors can't get
one and a half million dollars a year for.

Speaker 6 (01:23:03):
Running the darmed places.

Speaker 24 (01:23:05):
So where this lands, I don't know in regional ge
and he's they only get a fraction of these young
kids from around the world.

Speaker 6 (01:23:11):
They want more. So how you settle this mess down?
I'm bugger to mine.

Speaker 2 (01:23:15):
You have good weekend, mate, it's always a pleasure.

Speaker 6 (01:23:17):
Go the all blacks, Go the all blacks.

Speaker 2 (01:23:19):
They'll be right. Don't you worry. Good good Candibory Man
raises there and it's all on Murray Olds out of Australia.
Friday morning, fourteen to nine, Oh boy, living away from nine.
There's a difference between the wild fendle and eating phenel.
So I think that's part of the problem. While fenel's horrible.
Apparently fennel grows wild on the side of the road,
hence it's a wee. Well, lots of things grow on
the side of the road of your plant and you

(01:23:40):
get a good tomato.

Speaker 10 (01:23:41):
Yeah, but it's also related to hemlock.

Speaker 2 (01:23:43):
Well, this is I'm coming to this, Clint. This is
good stuff. Well done. Nicely anticipated there because I am come.
The word hemlock does come up. Pennel was always known
to be poisonous. We are not nutters from Wong And yeah,
I'm sorry, I know you're not. Sam just thinks you are.
We are not nutters from Wong.

Speaker 15 (01:23:58):
Can we also just make it really really clear that
we don't think that one going to ease a city
full of nutters.

Speaker 2 (01:24:04):
No, I couldn't agree more. I mean, just because Sam
does doesn't mean that we do.

Speaker 10 (01:24:07):
That's right. We want to diss.

Speaker 2 (01:24:10):
From Sam. We were told as children that it was
a noxious weed and poisonous. Mike, I'm a farmer in
Marlborough and can confirm that fennel is one of the
most problematic weeds on our farm. Particularly in floodplains and
stop banks. Your argument that how can fenda be noxious
when people eat it? Is weak at best. So don't know,
don't start insulting Scott. Don't come at me with you.

Speaker 10 (01:24:29):
I mean it's like pooh, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
Pooh hooy? No pooh har joking? Yes, yes, yes, And
so what you're saying here is for a time it
was classified as a noxious plant due to its similarity
to hemlock. According to Agriculture Victoria, why do you go
to Victoria? Why aren't you doing your research here in
New Zealand. What's the first thing that came up on Google?

Speaker 26 (01:24:51):
Was it?

Speaker 2 (01:24:52):
Sam? It's oh, Agriculture Victoria. Why don't I quote?

Speaker 3 (01:24:57):
Then?

Speaker 15 (01:24:59):
Were you expecting him to only under the library and
look up Encyclopedia Britannica And well, I don't know what
I was expended and they write it out.

Speaker 6 (01:25:05):
I wouldn't.

Speaker 10 (01:25:06):
We're not a piece of refell.

Speaker 2 (01:25:07):
A little bit of local research here, But according to
Agriculture Victoria it's still declared anxious weed. Common fenel escapes
cultivation and quickly establishes dense infestations that crowd out native
plants that are critical to wildlife habitats. So we've got
that doesn't mean it's not when you get it under
the certain conditions. Not still delicious with a little bit

(01:25:30):
of orange and some Utah flat salt. Nine minutes away from.

Speaker 3 (01:25:34):
Nine the Mics Breakfast with.

Speaker 2 (01:25:39):
Mike roast of phenel beautiful with roast pork trite. Jan
I won't be, but thank you for the recommendation. I
can't stand pork. Pook's disgusting. All greens are poisonous, have
over eaten because they're full of oxalates. Look it up.
Don't need to look it up because I've got you.
Got Sammy too, but he's the weakling of the morning
raw cashes, according to Glenn. Glenn's doing now research that'll

(01:25:59):
turn up in a pod. You're doing a podcast on
stuff you don't want to eat because it's raw or
something like that.

Speaker 15 (01:26:03):
I quite often talk about stuff I don't want to eat,
but not necessarily because it's poisonous. And potatoes are poisonous.

Speaker 3 (01:26:07):
So we knew that.

Speaker 2 (01:26:08):
I think we well, especially yeah, green green potatoes. I
think we knew that. And I think raw chicken's poisonous too.
I think if you eat chicken, just that exactly. If
you just eat raw chicken, I think things aren't going
to go well for you. And we said the black bean?
Were you saying the black bean? The black bean? So
next time you go down to the to the takeaway
and you go, I want the beef with the black bean,
you go cook the black bean, mate.

Speaker 10 (01:26:29):
Because can I have it without the poison?

Speaker 12 (01:26:31):
Maybe? Yeah?

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Exactly no bla, no, no, no, cook it up. Do
a bit more cooking, by the way. My great disappointments,
and it's I get increasingly confused about when the bluff
oyster season isn't isn't It seems to be a moveable feast.
This year it's moved to basically being closed about a
day and a half after it opened, as far as
I can work out, But some of the operators are
pulling up anchor already. And I've not had a single

(01:26:54):
bluff oyster this season, which disappoint Normally I do one
or two, doesn't find that they're just expensive and give up.
But this year I've had none. And apparently the weather's
just been so hopeless. But it's going to be a
bad year. So I'm disappointed in that. Five away from
nine trending.

Speaker 1 (01:27:09):
Now with chemist Wells keeping Kiwi's healthy all year round.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
That has been around for a day or so. So
we've got a busker. He's in Camden, as in Brittany.
He's walking around as part of what he said was
a documentary. He comes across Dua Leaper and it just
so happened to have a ukulele on him, and he
told Dua Leaper he would perform his music for her.
So now we've got a whole bunch of means of
Dua Leaper trying to look impressed when she wasn't.

Speaker 5 (01:27:36):
I wait to play you thirty seconds of my song
and if he liked you, I just want to get reaction, that's.

Speaker 7 (01:27:40):
It, okay, And so myself done for the week.

Speaker 6 (01:27:46):
Whatever.

Speaker 10 (01:27:47):
Singing in my stryf I'm playing call not.

Speaker 12 (01:27:50):
Charpine life, but I'm happy with a stellar Stellar.

Speaker 6 (01:27:55):
She'd all do a salon.

Speaker 22 (01:27:56):
Ice cream weather, but she's all black member slack, got
a fellow, but I'll never said a line.

Speaker 6 (01:28:03):
Or how many times for funest? So many nice on
my phone, don't real?

Speaker 3 (01:28:09):
Yeah, so good, so good?

Speaker 2 (01:28:15):
Yeah is so good?

Speaker 3 (01:28:18):
So good?

Speaker 10 (01:28:19):
Yeah, so good nice of me? Yah, goodbye exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
Mike Finnel celery and apple all slice than with lemon
juice squeezed over? Does to sell that? Couldn't agree?

Speaker 10 (01:28:27):
More apples are poisonous as well, are they?

Speaker 26 (01:28:30):
Yeah?

Speaker 15 (01:28:30):
Yeah, because if you acidentally crash her to the seeds,
that's basically cyanide.

Speaker 2 (01:28:34):
What about celery, because celery must be related to phenol,
mustn't it. I mean, it's green, it comes out of
it bounderby. I mean I'd give up eating if I
were you. So much to do this weekend, I mean,
how about it with the supercars and the F one
and the All Blacks and the Warriors, and it's just
just too good anyway, You have a fabulous weekend, as always,
Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:29:03):
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