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June 6, 2024 88 mins

On the Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast for Friday 7th of June, we looked at the billions allocated to fixing potholes and the move to sort out the ridiculous amount of traffic management in this country. 

Forgive us for indulging ourselves as we give you a highlights package of the big night at the Radio and Podcast Awards for Newstalk ZB. 

Kate Hawkesby and Tim Wilson cover the week, the Radio Awards, and a particular green suit. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
You're trusted Home the news, Sport Entertainment's opinion and Mike
the Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Ranger of a sport
setting the benchmark in sporting luxury news.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Togs d be dawning and welcome Today. We've got pothole
money and lots of it. A couple of reports. One
looks into the y carry a prison riot, an other
into the access to specialist healthcare in this country, hurricanes
coaches and for a playoffs word this morning, Tom and
cater you do the week being of Friday, Murray Olds
and Richard Arnold have chunks of the planets covered for
us as well. It's Friday morning, seven past six important.

(00:31):
I think to start the day with some good news.
The good news from an industry you might have read
that has been creating a little bit of bad news.
Like the media has troubles. Newsrooms are being closed, programs
are being canceled, people are being laid off. Losses of
mounting hands around for help please are being made for
you to see what some do on the local landscapers
being important, yes, and it's been a bad year. But

(00:52):
against that backdrop, the radio industry got together last night
to hand out a few gongs and remind us all
that there are no shortage indeed of success stories. This
is the best station in the country, not just that,
but awarded the title last night for the fourth year
in a row. The show has the best producers in

(01:12):
the game, This show has the best newsreader. The station
has the best sports bloke on the weekends, the eclectic
guy at night from Bluff One for about the eighth
year in a row, and the news team were recognized
for their Gabriel coverage as well. More broadly, this company
picked up an outsized number of awards given the competition,
and that is the bit that's not to be forgotten.

(01:34):
Radio in this country is still, as far as I know,
the most competitive market per head of population in the world.
We have a pile of radio stations, all chasing the audience,
all chasing the dollar. What radio is is an example
of how a market evolves, As the Prime Minister would say.
While some in the media grapple with change, radio did
a lot of it's changing a couple of decades back,
with deregulation and the arrival of FM. We worked out

(01:56):
what the audience has wanted and gave it to them.
It's ever evolving, of course, but in a media landscape
of so much upheaval, there are plenty still doing fine,
thank you, and that needs to be better told. Part
of the problem with the media irony of ironies is
their predilection for the negative. There are more media stories
of success than there are of woe, but you don't
hear those. The show on this station, in this company

(02:19):
is killing it. Now. That's not skiting. It's maybe just
balancing the ledger a bit. So you are listening to
the best in the business. But you knew that, didn't
you see? Just a couple of judges backed it up
with a bit of silverware last night.

Speaker 3 (02:31):
Who news of the world in ninety seconds.

Speaker 2 (02:35):
Eighty years on, they remember, we recall.

Speaker 4 (02:38):
The lesson that comes to us again and again across
the decades. Three nations must stand together to oppose tyranny.

Speaker 2 (02:50):
This bloke was almost old enough to be there.

Speaker 5 (02:52):
NATO stands at thirty two countries strong, and NATO is
more united than ever.

Speaker 6 (03:00):
I'm more prepared to keep the peace, deter.

Speaker 5 (03:02):
Aggression to Frian freedom all around the world.

Speaker 2 (03:06):
This blake was there. It gave her life so that
I could make it my god, I had, I got
a wife, I got children, i got two boys and
a girl.

Speaker 7 (03:17):
I've got a grandson that's your grandfather.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
And I'm still gone.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Given it was France, this was home territory.

Speaker 8 (03:26):
We think all the veterans being present here and I
just want to express the gratitude of the French people.
But three of you had a special relationship, if I
may see, he's a mahabit.

Speaker 2 (03:42):
While we are on war related issues, these values have
gone and hit a un school in Gaza.

Speaker 9 (03:46):
The Israeli military says they targeted this building because twenty
to thirty Palestinian militants, both Hamas and Islamic she had.
They say, we're sheltering in this facility and planning attacks
against Israeli trups.

Speaker 2 (04:00):
Stateside, Trump has got a gap in court proceedings at
the moment, so he's gone on Fox.

Speaker 3 (04:04):
Presidency of China, Pulton, Kim Jong.

Speaker 10 (04:08):
All of these leaders are at the top of their
game mentally, they're at the top of their game, and
they're dealing with somebody that's not at the top of
their games game.

Speaker 2 (04:17):
Kim John Um is at the top of his game.
I'm not sure Donald, come on. Finally, two children who
were born deaf can listen to music after undergoing ground
baking gene therapy. So the treatment is an infusion into
the ear to replace the faulty DNA to cure the
DFNB nine or inherited deafness. Researchers now hope they'll be
able to apply this to other congenital cases, which make

(04:37):
up sixty percent of the four hundred and thirty million
cases of deafness. A lot of people. That's news of
the world in ninety seconds. Yeah, Europe, watch it over
the next couple of days. Going to be fascinating. The
ECB weighed in the election I'm referring to. But the ECB,
the Central Bank, they've gone to three seven five down
from four another cut, so Canada now EU interesting timing,
of course, but we've got half a billion people in
that particular part of the world and twenty seven members

(04:59):
st Voting's on from now until Sunday their time, Monday
our time. Growing support for what the media loosely call
far right parties others might call conservative parties, expecting more
protectionist policies, fewer climate targets, and more spending on defense.
So we watched this with a great deal of interest
twelve pass.

Speaker 3 (05:18):
Six, the mic costing breakfast.

Speaker 2 (05:22):
If you hadn't caught up with yesterday, and the guide
Jens and Huan who happens to be in Taiwan at
the moment. The only reason they mentioned that is he's
signing autographs. They're mobbing them these days. So in Vidia's
chip company, they blew past Apple yesterday in terms of value,
second most valuable company in the world in the history
of the world. Really, their value dismige over three trillion
Apples just under three trillion. Microsoft at three point one

(05:42):
in video will blow past them. They've got eighty percent
of the chip market and data center. So they're away
and laughing at fifteen past six as they redibine the
value of dollars and wealth and all that sort of thing.
From speaking which from jam I wealth Andrew Keller had,
good morning morning, Mike, thank you very much for kind
Did skys Did he come out of nowhere or not?

Speaker 11 (06:03):
Look, one would always have suspected that they would have
been feeling the pinch, But there were some elements of
the announcement yesterday that may have been unexpected. So economic
pressure is still very evan every day. The news might
we see in the government if we sort of cascade down.
We see it in corporate New Zealand, small business, tradespeople,
households obviously, and this is the squeeze that's on discretionary

(06:26):
spending and the latest to deliver an update on how
it's impacting their business with Skys City Entertainment Group now
that advised the insects yesterday have an earnings guidance update.
Now they now expect their underlying group earnings for the
twenty four financial year to be two eighty to two
eighty five million. Now that's down sort of ten to
twenty five million on previous guidance. That translates into net

(06:48):
profit after tax of between one hundred and twenty and
one hundred and twenty five which is sort of five
to ten million.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I was the sod.

Speaker 11 (06:55):
Those numbers in themselves aren't huge. They say, what's driving
this is ongaring, challenging, economic, the environment. We could take
that phrase and put it into almost every company.

Speaker 2 (07:05):
Announcement this year. But there's a further delays.

Speaker 11 (07:07):
So the Horizon Hotel that's the new hotel in the
Auklansky City complex, and a potential increase in the Adelaide
casino duty expect. The thing about this is it didn't
stop there. They also commented on the outlook for twenty
twenty five, so those tough conditions expected to extend into
twenty twenty five. A number of one officies as well,

(07:28):
down time to a bit, all of them. But one
of the outcomes, and pretty important from an investment point
of view, is they are suspending their dividends not only
for twenty twenty four, but they're also saying they're not
going to pay a dividend twenty twenty five as well.
This is in order to maintain a robust level of
headroom with respect to finance covenants. They do expect to
resume dividends in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 2 (07:49):
Market reaction was sharp.

Speaker 11 (07:52):
The share price fell twenty six cents, that's fifteen percent
down to dollar forty seven. So those levels we haven't
seen since the sort of craziness when COVID hit in
twenty twenty. And it's another example of the sort of
squeeze coming on cyclical companies. Those companies exposed to the
economic cycle and they just need to ensure that they
stay within their debck covenants.

Speaker 2 (08:13):
And speaking of the economic cycle, talk to me about
building were actually still hammering or it?

Speaker 11 (08:18):
Well, we are, we're just hammering less building work put
in place. This is a measure of building activity reported
by Stats New Zealand, and this is part of MIC
of our ongoing mission to make these economic numbers interesting
and sensible for mainstream New Zealand. Continuing the theme for
the morning, though, really talking about the sluggish nature of
the economy. Seasonally adjusted volume of business work at eight

(08:40):
point three billion dollars in the March twenty four quarter
is down four percent compared to the December quarter, So
residential work really is feeling the pain to a greater
degree than non residential work. Residential work down just under
five percent, a more telling numbers to fall from the peak.
So we're now fourteen percent the peak, and you think

(09:01):
about it, this is a big sector.

Speaker 2 (09:02):
A fourteen percent fall is a lot.

Speaker 11 (09:04):
Non residential work was down two point eight percent from
the December quarter.

Speaker 2 (09:08):
But you just got to note that the.

Speaker 11 (09:10):
Residential sector is much bigger than the non residential sector,
So the slice of the building work pie is larger,
bigger numbers.

Speaker 2 (09:17):
If I look at the total.

Speaker 11 (09:19):
Volume of building work in the March quarter, it's the
lowest quarterly volume in two years. Just to put these
numbers and to give you some feel for what these
numbers were, December quarter five point five billion dollars worth
of work, the March quarter five point two billion dollars work.
So that's three hundred million dollars less work from the
December to the March quarter. The peak was back in

(09:40):
twenty twenty two, which was six point one billion dollars.
Now you know that I love to round numbers with
frivolous abandoned mic. But as if you go from that
highest quarter to billion, now it's almost a billion less work.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
That's for one quarter.

Speaker 11 (09:55):
So the pipeline of work is falling if we extrapolate
that out from the building consent to it data.

Speaker 2 (10:00):
So you've actually got to expect further weakness. Some numbers
I could do that.

Speaker 11 (10:05):
The Dow Jones is down twenty eight points thirty eight thousand,
seven hundred and seventy eight. The S and P five
hundred is just down seven points at the moment five thousand,
three hundred and forty six, and the Nasdaq down thirty
seven points seventeen thousand, one hundred and fifty. The forty
one hundred overnight gained about half a percent, so good
use there eight to eighty five. The Nickee was down

(10:27):
almost half, so just over half percent actually as well.
Thirty eight thousand, seven hundred and three Shang how coms
it fell just over half percent three oh four eight.
The Aussi's yesterday gained points six to eight percent, closing
at seven eight two to one on the A six
two hundred, and the n z X fifty lost twenty
four points points two percent eleven thy nine hundred and

(10:47):
seventy three one.

Speaker 2 (10:49):
Kiwi dollar is.

Speaker 11 (10:50):
Hovering around sixty two cents against the US. It's just
over ninety three cents against the Aussie point five six
nine three against the Euro point four eight four seven
pounds ninety six point five to five. Japanese yen gold
is trading at two thousand, three hundred and sixty nine
US dollars, and break crud still under eighty bucks seventy

(11:11):
nine dollars and ninety seven cents.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
A fabulous weekend appreciated as always, Andrew Kellihajomo Wealth dot
Co dot m Z, Pascal and government bonds are just
to remind you that people love debt and can't get
enough of it, including the New Zealand government three and
a half billion to May twenty twenty eight. What are
you getting for that four point six two percent? I'd
take it. Bids totaling fifteen point five billion, so they

(11:35):
wanted three and a half. The q was fifteen point
five Not bad. Eight twenty one minutes past six here
at newstalkzed.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
The mic Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (11:48):
I note that the Governor of New York Hocel, announced
yesterday that they're definitely delaying the implementation of congesting pricing
in Manhattan, a major blow for the transport advocates. Of course,
implementing the congestion system risks too many unintended consequences for
New Yorkers at this time, concerns about affordability and the
potential impact on the city's post pandemic economy recovery interesting

(12:08):
that they can see that in New York, and yet
in Auckland yesterday they voted to set up a congestion plan. Mike,
we're getting a bit of this already, and we'll talk
more about it after seven. Got to see a specialist
for a crumbling neck. Got told sixty one thousand, or
a weight of four years to have the op amazing,
isn't it? Sixty one thousand dollars? Medicine is expensive? Road

(12:32):
cost Mike at a luncheon recently with the Mayor Tim
King of Nelson, Tasman guests was Christopher Luxam. He advised
Nelson that thirty percent of roading or the cost of roading,
is now traffic management. Thirty percent of the cost is
traffic a huge increase. So that's the question for Simming
and Brown after seven o'clock this morning. Four billion fantastic,
easy to make an announcement, but an announcement doesn't fill
a pothole? And how much does it cost? And does

(12:53):
it cost too much? And are we going to do
something about it? Six twenty five trending now with careless wells,
great savings every day. Twentieth century studios are attempting to
revive the Alien franchise, so widely acknowledged that after the
original trilogy with Sagourney Weaver, all the subsequent films where
we had complicated the disappointing. So they're going back to

(13:13):
their roots. So the trailer, this is the new one,
it's Alien roles. Is this really where you want to
spend the rest of your life.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
You know, I don't and this is our only pick
it out there.

Speaker 6 (13:40):
What's happening?

Speaker 3 (13:42):
Something in the war?

Speaker 12 (13:43):
What do you mean there's something?

Speaker 13 (13:43):
I don't know?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
This something in a war?

Speaker 3 (13:48):
Right? Are you sure you want to do this?

Speaker 14 (14:03):
Come on? That was a little bit scary you go
to there?

Speaker 2 (14:06):
Oh was it scary?

Speaker 3 (14:08):
Oh?

Speaker 2 (14:08):
Okay, I thought it was scary. Ridley Scott he's backers
producer and the film is out on the twenty sixth
of August, a couple of years ago. Whykerria, remember that,
you're on holiday. And then next thing you know, there's
a bunch of punks on the roof of the Hykia
prison and they're offering them KFC and pizza to come down.
Remember that, And that's where that whole let's have some
free food. And so people started climbing up buildings all

(14:29):
over the country and out came the McDonald's and it
was so anyway, they've done a report into that. Why
it's taken so long to do the report, I've got
no idea, but we'll find out shortly. Would it surprise
you to learn that they weren't prepared for that sort
of activity? Would it surprise you to no of course
not so anyway, more of the detail on that art
of the news, which is.

Speaker 1 (14:46):
Next the newsmakers and the personalities the big names talk to,
like the Casking Breakfast with Bailey's real estate altogether better
across residential, commercial and rural.

Speaker 3 (15:00):
On News Talk, said beam.

Speaker 2 (15:01):
Listen, one of the government's had a very good week.

Speaker 3 (15:03):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (15:03):
Why are we discussing how much to spend on repairing roads.
Let's just build appropriate roads in the first place. So morning,
Mike ns A TA need to engage with the local
contractors for road maintenance. The big companies have too many
overheads and no local accountability, traffic controls over the top.
So yes, we'll talk to simeon Brown that because you're
exercised and energized, and that's the sort of thing that
people get exercised and energized about. And it's been a

(15:23):
good week for the government in that sense. So we're
all organizing or reorganizing the Holidays Act, the sick leave rules.
We got the money for the radiology yesterday, and we've
got money for the potholes. Good practical, simple stuff is
what serves governments well. By the way, if you're looking
to book a holiday, twenty twenty six New York. Will
go to New York later this morning. By the way,

(15:44):
you are Tim Lightborn, who's with m Vivo, hasn't the
wine as in Sarah Jessica Parker Asen Graham Norton. He's
in New York at the moment. But I'll tell you
more about that later. Dollies come into New York and
Broadway twenty twenty six. It's called Hallo. I'm Dolly. I
don't want to play amateur psychiatrist on a Friday more.
But she's going through a thing at the moment. She's
never been more omnipresent. There's books, there's records, there's movies,

(16:07):
there's deals, there's noise, there's charities. Now there's a thing
on Broadway. She's writing in music and lyrics by Dolly Parton.
But if you love Dolly Parton, and let's be honest,
who doesn't. She's coming to Broadway in twenty twenty six,
twenty two minutes away from sex. Richard Arnold's been monitoring
d Day and all that that's entailed overnight our time.
He's with us very short the meantime, the report and

(16:28):
to the y carrier. Prison Riot is out we take
you back to New Years of twenty twenty. At least
twenty one prisoners unhappy with their living conditions, fought with
Corrections officers and lit fires. The inquiries found significant issues
with the Department of Corrections and preparedness for the right
and the way staff handled the event. So Lee marsh
is the Commissioner for Custodial Services at Corrections and is
with us. Very good morning to you.

Speaker 15 (16:50):
Good money, Mike.

Speaker 2 (16:51):
You're disappointed in what you found, I'm not.

Speaker 16 (16:55):
It was certainly a lot of learnings for us. I
think the report was very helpful in identifying some areas
for us to focus on. But look, before I get
into that, I really do want to acknowledge our staff
that we often talk about and I've talked probably around
the challenge in dobb our frictions officers do and this
really does point to that. And I have no doubt
that their bravery save lives on that day. They did
a phenomenal job in the worst of situations, and I'm

(17:18):
incredibly proud of what they did.

Speaker 3 (17:19):
Well.

Speaker 2 (17:20):
That juxtaposes what the reports is as you're unprepared.

Speaker 16 (17:25):
I suggest that our staff did an incredible job on
the day and their actions resulted in no loss of
life during that event. But let's not lose sight of
the fact that this event was a deliberate act by
a group of very violent individuals who deliberately put lives
at risk. This was a choice by them to do that.
I would suggest the report points more to our systems,
processes and training, which is what we've really focused and

(17:47):
invested in over the last couple of years.

Speaker 2 (17:49):
So would you argue that you materially changed that should
this happen this morning somewhere, you are better prepared and
differently prepared than you were in twenty twenty.

Speaker 16 (17:58):
Absolutely. I think what this identified for us across our network.
From an infrastructure perspective, we've got a range of facilities.
Some arre Inepact to one hundred years old, some are
only a few years old, and this has helped us
identify some of those vulnerabilities in those older facilities. If
we fix that, we've been around and made sure that
those vulnerabilities don't exist. We've heavily invested in our training

(18:21):
and our response capability. We now have a specially trained
at height team that can respond to prisoners on roofs.
We've got our Advanced Control and Restraint team trained and
numbers increased. We've increased and trained further our prison negotiators,
and we've looked at enhanced tactical communication training for all
of our frontline staff so they're better equipped and more

(18:44):
confident to deal with conflict at the lower level.

Speaker 2 (18:47):
If it happened today, would you still hand out food?

Speaker 16 (18:50):
We don't hand out food. Well, we feed prisoners in
prisons obviously, but.

Speaker 2 (18:57):
When they're on the route, do you get a bit
of KFC for them to come down, or a bit
of pizza hut?

Speaker 3 (19:00):
No, No, we don't do that.

Speaker 2 (19:02):
You do where you did that then, didn't you?

Speaker 17 (19:04):
No?

Speaker 16 (19:04):
There is nothing to suggest in the report. I've had
no reports to me at all that KOC or pizzas
or fish and Chips or McDonald's or anything was used
during those negotiats.

Speaker 2 (19:14):
So was that mistreported then, because that was widely reported
at the time. There was food flying lip right and cedar.

Speaker 3 (19:19):
No, that was.

Speaker 16 (19:20):
Possibly another agency's events.

Speaker 2 (19:22):
With people at roof what at the same place?

Speaker 16 (19:27):
No, not at Wykeria, So.

Speaker 2 (19:28):
It never happened at Waikeria. What about the people who
said just leave muppy.

Speaker 16 (19:34):
Who said leave them at public.

Speaker 2 (19:35):
Lots in the public said leave uppy, stop negotiating with them.
They want to sit on the top of the roof.
Leave them up there until they're so sick of it
they'll come down. In other words, tough en up well when.

Speaker 16 (19:45):
It comes to negotiating in these situations. If it is
safe to do so and there is no threat to life,
we often use the tactic of waiting for people. I'm
going to be quite frank. If someone sat on a
roof peacefully protesting and it starts to rain, they normally
come down. But the reality of this is it wasn't
a peaceful protest. These individuals were deliberately trying to burn

(20:06):
the building down and destroy it. They were putting lives
at risk. And when you read the report, they targeted
individuals and deliberately put their lives at rest with their actions.

Speaker 2 (20:14):
Good stuff that we have those pics all right, Lely,
appreciate it very much. Lee Marsh, who's the Corrections Commissioner
Custodial Services, and we are checking on the reportage. I
may have had the building wrong, Maybe that was somewhere else.
I thought it was a thing everywhere, certainly, I remember
I thought it was white carrier, very distinctly the business
downtown Auckland where they climbed up in that clock tower
or whatever it lives in the busy negotiating over food. Anyway,
eighten minutes away from seven US. Champion has been sold

(20:37):
for one point five billion. I got really interested in
Champion Champions and an old company started in nineteen nineteen.
For a while there it was quite cool, and then
it wasn't cool. Anyway. They're selling to authentic brands, authentic
brand Zone, Rebok, Forever twenty one in Quicksilver, and they
became a thing. One of our kids got particularly into
selling and buying and selling second hand stuff or what

(20:59):
they call vintage stuff, and Champion was really the go
to for millennials and gen z its, and so suddenly
they're worth one point.

Speaker 12 (21:06):
Five Was it when you could start buying it at Farmers?

Speaker 3 (21:09):
Is that what it was?

Speaker 12 (21:10):
It became uncalled.

Speaker 2 (21:11):
No, it could be that, but certainly, certainly the old
vintage stuff is a thing, and it's worth real money
to walk into a shop to see something that's really
old has been worn by a lot of other people,
may or may not have been ironed or pressed by
the person who's selling it to you, and to be
on sale for well in excess of one hundred bucks
is not bad.

Speaker 12 (21:29):
I've got a couple of Champion T shirts that I've worn.
Have you how much do you reckon that's added to
the value.

Speaker 2 (21:35):
Thrift them up for me, Go send them to a shop.
I bet you more than you think. It's more than
your super dry T shirts. Put it that way. Seventeen
to two.

Speaker 3 (21:45):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (21:48):
Yeah, we just looked it up. It appears it was
the orang of Tamariki Youth Justice Facility where the food
was flowing and the aforementioned downtown Orlanser Waikarrier. No food,
just a lot of flames.

Speaker 1 (21:59):
Fourteen two International Correspondence with Ends and Eye Insurance Peace
of mind for New Zealand business Wisterod.

Speaker 2 (22:06):
Arnald starts the morning to you what he might quite
the same, wasn't it?

Speaker 15 (22:10):
Yes?

Speaker 7 (22:10):
So the President spoke of the dangers of isolationism and
the need to protect and nurture democracy. January the sixth,
nineteen eighty four. That president was Republican Ronald Reagan, who
marked the fortieth anniversary of D Day, the yelled invasion
that liberated France and went on to defeat Hitler and
his cohorts everywhere. On this day, on this eightieth anniversary

(22:32):
of the D Day landings, there were one hundred and
eighty surviving Vets of Normandy participating. They're mostly one hundred
years old or more. Few were able to walk under
their own power now. Others came in wheelchairs, but then
many struggled to their feet as French President Macron kissed
them and pinned medals.

Speaker 2 (22:48):
To their coats.

Speaker 7 (22:48):
With some of these men in tears, those experiences remain.
One hundred and three year old Floyd Bear says this
is his last trip to the Normandy beaches. There's a
pilot in nineteen forty before and says what he saw
as he flew his cover mission on that day was
a scene that appeared to show every ship and boat
in the world approaching the French coast.

Speaker 3 (23:08):
It'd be about right.

Speaker 7 (23:10):
Veteran Dick Rung was nineteen when he was on a
tank lander that came into Omaha Beach. He recalls hosing
down the human blood from the deck. He says, quote,
two of the soldiers got badly hit. We couldn't save them,
but we covered them with blankets, and the blankets soaked
up their blood. Finding the skipper said, we can't leave
it like this, so we got out the fire hose
and washed down the deck of the blood. I was

(23:32):
only a kid, and most of us were too. I
wasn't trained for this, he says. His craft stayed in
Normandy for almost five months, transporting troops, supplies, and vehicles
to the shore. He then went off to the Pacific Ceio,
where he often spoke of the brutality of war, saying
I am a peacemaker. I'm not going to do this again.
At Point to hok where Prinsident Reagan later spoke, Usamy

(23:54):
rangers scaled the steep cliffs while under German machine gun fire.
Any audience today, who were also actor Tom Hanks and
director Stephen Spielberg, of course, made the searing movies Saving
Private Ryan, and since have been documenting the lives of
World War II vets. President Biden has delivered a powerful
address linking the Allied effort on D Day with the

(24:15):
challenges posed right now by the Russian invasion in Ukraine,
whose President Zelinsky also is on hand.

Speaker 5 (24:22):
The struggle between the dictatorship and freedom. It's unending here
in Europe.

Speaker 6 (24:29):
We see one stark example.

Speaker 5 (24:31):
Ukraine has been invaded by a tyrant, been on domination.
Ukrainians are fighting with extraordinary curves. The United States and
NATO and a coalition of more than fifty countries stany
strong with Ukraine.

Speaker 3 (24:48):
We will not walk away.

Speaker 7 (24:50):
Then, in a separate interview, Biden spoke of Russia's Putin,
whom he said he has known for some forty years.

Speaker 6 (24:56):
No a decent man. He's a dictator, and he's struggling
to make sure he hauls his country together while still
keeping US assault on it.

Speaker 7 (25:05):
Biden will deliver another statement at Point to Hog this weekend,
then returned to Europe for the g seventh summit in Italy.
He will also make a stop at Below Woods near Paris,
where many American troops killed in World War One are buried.
Six years ago, while he was president, Donald Trump canceled
a visit infamously to that ceremony at the cemetery because

(25:25):
of bad weather That led a grandson of Winston Churchill
at the time to lash out, saying, quote, they died
with their face to the foe, and Trump couldn't even
defy the weather.

Speaker 2 (25:36):
Right, make me have a good week. Can we'll catch
up next week. Appreciate it very much. Richard Donald state,
So that's an interview, by the way, is getting headlines
for other reasons. He's talking about ABC's news anchor David Muir.
He claims, this listen, I've known it for for forty years.
He's concerned me for forty years.

Speaker 6 (25:52):
He's not a decent man. He's a dictator and he's
struggling to make sure he hauls his country together.

Speaker 2 (25:58):
Problem is, of course, he refers to put and he
hasn't done him forty years, and he hasn't been worried
about him forty years because the better part of the eighties,
which takes him that forty year period, he was of
course an undercover KGV intelligence officer, so he wouldn't have
known of him at all. And there is a growing,
once again lesson among some in the American media that
this guy's not all there, and that needs to be

(26:20):
addressed more and more before the election. Right away from seven.

Speaker 1 (26:24):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast with the Range Rover Sports used
Dogs dB.

Speaker 2 (26:29):
Yeah, I'm getting to the bottom of this Putin thing.
So he was here in the eighties. I knew I
knew I recognized him at the time he was at
the pub. This guy, where do I know that guy from?
I mean, I've known him for forty years, have been
worried about him for forty years. He's not a good man,
and I saw that anyway. He was rising up through
the ranks of the KGB was Putney was based in

(26:50):
Germany and Singapore, and part of his brief was to
report on New Zealand, Australia and Fiji, and so he
was here, came here a couple of times under aliases
as well. I said, mate, what's your name? And he
goes Bob. I said, that sounds right to me. He was.

Speaker 12 (27:07):
He was a barter sale He was the shoe salesman,
selling of bullets.

Speaker 2 (27:11):
Yeah, you saw a bart of bullets. Who didn't say
talk about champion at one point five billion, but of bullets.
Don't get me started on the stubbies this Friday morning,
five minutes away from seven, all the ins and.

Speaker 1 (27:24):
The outs, it's the fizz on the Mike Husking breakfast
on News Talk said.

Speaker 2 (27:29):
B I'm selling a bottle bullets.

Speaker 12 (27:33):
Come on, I don't think it was ever based in Pakistan.

Speaker 2 (27:37):
Right over go Eurozone. I alluded to this briefly earlier
on this morning, cut their main interest rate overnight for
the first time in five years because they've made progress
and tackling inflation. Wouldn't that be nice? They dropped from
a record four percent to three point seven five follows Canada.
I told you about that earlier on in the week.
First G seven nation to cut, they dropped from five
to four seven five, also the first cut in four years.
Inflation there is down to two point seven. The big

(28:00):
this is just for the elections, of course, so it's
got a political element to it as well. Their inflation.
Once again, I also told you this earlier on the
week it went to two point six. It was up
a smage, but it wasn't in that we're in trouble
kind of field and have that vibe about it. But
the big thing they reckon they're going to where are
they going to get to two point five percent this year?
Two point two percent next year? Our number is still

(28:21):
at four of course, as inflation our cash rates at
five point five, so we're in a completely different league,
the league of the hopeless. The next big question, of course,
and this applies to a degree to America when they
start is that once do you cut again. And the
argument has long been held by economists two circle in
these areas that you can't start if you're just going
to do one. There's no point in that. So you've

(28:43):
got to be confident enough that inflation is not going
to be sparked by your cutting. So you cut, and
you cut, and you cut again, and then suddenly real
growth apparently emerges. So the expectation among economists they are
reasonably confident in Europe that the ECB will cut two
three and a half in either of the winter winter
which is about now ish, or indeed in the springtime. Meantime,

(29:04):
Adrian tells us as regards cuts in this particular part
of the world, it will be twenty twenty five. I mean,
Dolly will have opened on Broadway by the time that
Adrian gets around to cutting the interest rates for goodness sake,
four billion dollars. So that was the announcement. What is
it actually buy? You very exercised about traffic management and cones,
and it's all very well spending four billion dollars, But
do you get one pothole and nine million cones, or

(29:25):
do you get a lot of potholes done. Sime and Brown,
the Transport Minister, on this for you in the next
half hour of the program, Tim and Katie after Week
after eight on the week as well. Meantime The News
is next. You're on the Mike Cosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (29:38):
The Breakfast Show You Can Trust, The Mic Hosking Breakfast
with Avida.

Speaker 3 (29:43):
Live, The Age You Feel News talks ed been well.

Speaker 2 (29:46):
Seven past seven, So the government came to the pothole party.
Just over two billion going on state highways. One point
nine billion will be for the local roads. Transport Minister
Sime and Brown with us on this very good morning,
Good morning all the reaction I'm getting this morning, hundreds
of text road management. What are you in do about
road management? Because four billions a lot of money, but
not if you wasted all on cones.

Speaker 18 (30:05):
Absolutely, this government's committed to getting the cost of traffic
management down and in fact we've already been working very
closely with MDTA on this particular issue. They audited eight
hundred of their traff eight hundred of their work sites
back in Februan and found one hundred and forty five
of them were not needed. So they're taking a much
more firmer approach to actually getting on top of traffic management.

(30:26):
They're also issuing a new code for traffic management operators
which is much more aligned to the Australian model. We
see a lot fewer cones on the roads. And we're
also going to start requiring MDEDA to report on regularly
how much the actually spending on traffic management. They understand
the cost of bitchmen, they understand the cost of aggregate,
they understand the cost of labor, but they don't understand
the cost of traffic management. We're going to require them

(30:48):
to actually publish that so that we can get those
numbers down.

Speaker 2 (30:51):
And do they accept this as a problem and we're
all over it.

Speaker 18 (30:54):
They do accept the problem, and it's our job as
a government to make sure that they are all over
it to get those costs down. Because I want this
extra funding to go into actually fixing our roads, improving
the quality of our roads so that keways can get
where they need to go quickly and safe. And they
don't think there's any of your listeners listening todays say
our roads are a great state. We do need to
put more money into our roads, but I want it
going into actually fixing the roads and not lining in

(31:16):
the pockets of traffic management companies.

Speaker 2 (31:17):
Couldn't agree more. The other thing they're concerned about is
it's ongoing. So yep, fix up, fix up the mess
that's been so shoddily let go. Once you've fixed it up,
Is it ongoing so we're not here again.

Speaker 18 (31:28):
Yes, absolutely, this is a step change, and this is
about actually ensuring that the funding goes into not just
the patchwork cook we've seen on our roads under the
last three years of the last government, but actually saying
we need to be resealing, rehabilitating our roads to those
long term renewal standards are two percent being rebuilt every
year up to nine percent being resealed every year, and
actually getting drainage under control and actually managing that to

(31:51):
get the water off our roads. So this is about
putting long term targets in place for the agency. It's
not just giving them more money, but it's actually clear
targets that they need to meet in order to actually
ensure our roads have been properly maintained, rather than sort
of the patchwork fix that the last government's approach was
to fit was to road maintenance, which was actually more
expensive in the long run exactly because you just patched

(32:12):
over it and then you need to patch over it
again and again again.

Speaker 2 (32:14):
Exactly. All right, go well this week. I appreciate it
very much to me in brand Transport Minister, So you
got the good word on traffic management. Nine minutes past seven,
asking your research run vaping and rules, University of Otago
sent out a twenty year old to buy some vapes
in Wellington. Only half the stores asked for ID, A
third solder person the bape anyway when ID wasn't provided. Also,
almost all the stores disposable vapes without required nicotine limits,

(32:34):
replaceable batteries or child safety mechanisms. Now the emeritus professor
and ASH chairman, Robert Beagelhole is with us. Robert, very
good morning to you.

Speaker 19 (32:41):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (32:42):
So it's a classic example of a rule that's not
adhered to. I could argue that it was never going
to be. Is that fair or not?

Speaker 19 (32:49):
I think that is fair, Mike. This is a helpful study.
This is not a new problem. We've known about it
for a long time. In fact, there's only been one
prosecution of an illegal sales ever. So this is a
serious problem that we should say that only one and
for ows. Young vapors buy their own vapes at shops.

Speaker 2 (33:12):
Yeah, see, how are you going to get around that?
And you account there's no law that can prevent you
getting somebody to do the duty work on your.

Speaker 19 (33:17):
Behalf exactly, And that's what's happening. So this is important.
We need better compliance, we need better enforcement, but it
won't stop underage vaping. There's other things we need to do.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
What do we need to do well?

Speaker 19 (33:32):
I think the one thing about the rules, they need
to be clear. There's a lot of ambiguity about the rules.
The rules have not been developed in association with the
manufacturers or the sellers. The regulatory authority needs to get
on side that people are actually selling these dapes and
making them. That's number one. Number two, we have to

(33:52):
stop punishing young people who vape illegally. We tend in
the past to expel them from school. We've put cameras
in their toilets, just unbelievably inappropriate ways of dealing with
the young people's problem. We need to get alongside the kids.
We need proper educational health promotion campaigns in schools. Who

(34:16):
do exist, they're out run by the Drug Foundation and
the support of by the Ministry of Education, by the police,
by to fat or this needs to be standard as
we would deal with alcohol thinking, which is a much
more serious than the lifetate problem.

Speaker 2 (34:32):
Haven't said that? Actually, let me ask you this in totals,
do you reckon that the vaping epidemic which it's become
is the equal of the tobacco problem we did have
or not?

Speaker 19 (34:43):
Two things totally unequal. It's not an epidemic, Mike, vaping
ten percent of fourteen and fifteen year olds daily. It's
a serious problem. We don't want it. It's not an epidemic.
We're not losing a generation of young people's of vaping.
Good put that aside, the five sounds of people of
good guy every year from smoking. We've got to get

(35:07):
the balance right. We have to help adults to your
smoke stop. They need gay picking.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
All right, Robert, appreciate your time. Robert Bigelhole, Emeritus Professor
Chuirman of the Ash Group. Twelve and it's part seven Fosking.
Mike Fanicia mentioned putin being in New Zealand. I also
recall talk of this back in the eighties. I was
told by someone who socialized at the Russian Embassy and
Corori that he was there. Well, you attempted to check
this out a couple of years ago by emailing the
Official Information Commission. I don't think we have an official

(35:33):
information commission a couple of times, which is probably why
they didn't reply. You probably send an email off to
somebody who doesn't exist. Mike, the barter salesman was reportedly
here under capital to investigate the sinking of the Michail
Lermanov and the Marlboroughs Sounds. I'd be really interested to
know they said, now, look, glad, we're sending you down.
We've got a boat and we'll have a look at
this and you can get some detail. You're a shoe
salesman and the shoes you're selling Abart who comes up

(35:56):
with that stroke of genius, Mike, I can't believe you
met Putin. I didn't think much of it at the time,
but now, upon reflection this Friday morning, it was probably
more significant than I thought. Thirteen past seven.

Speaker 3 (36:07):
The Mike Costing breakfast.

Speaker 2 (36:09):
Mike vaping was always intended to help people stop smoking.
Follow Australia make vaping a prescription, only drague that was
the problem. I don't think Aishaveral letters down shockingly mind you,
six months in the government couldn't have done more if
they wanted to. But we should go down. Mind you,
Having said that, just because it's script doesn't mean you
go along to the doctor and say, look, I need
vaping and what are they going to do? Argue with
you morning, Mike. What a breath of fresh air and

(36:29):
common sense and pragmatist that Simeon Brown is compared with
the ideologically possessed Michael Woods.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
Love it.

Speaker 2 (36:34):
And that's what I was saying earlier on. This government's
had a very good week in that, in the sick
leave review, in the Holiday Act review, in the ECE
review and the potholes. Good practical stuff is what we
need and what we respond to as well. Now, stuff
this morning I noticed were running. Could it be a
hip piece or could it be just some grievance on ax.

(36:56):
So we got a couple of big political stories this week.
One's the Murray Party that's ongoing in a Philly major way,
and I'll come back to that in just a couple
of moment. But stuff are alleging that actor facing a
declaration of no confidence in its board of a Culture
of fear of unfair treatment for women and a quote
unquote train wreck as senior staff and volunteers quit. So

(37:17):
at least half a dozen staff and volunteers have left
their role since the election. Our first point is six
seven months after it was not that's this year. What
he's talking eight nine months since the election is half
a dozen people leaving. Is that a big deal? I mean,
if you look at the churn in any sort of
reasonable sized company, you'd see six or seven people leaving
on a regular basis. They've got a leaked recording. It
reveals the moment the two respected volunteers resigned, expressing no

(37:40):
confidence of the board, raising concerns about the party's treatment
of women. Now, the party president, Catherine Isaac, I am
confident that all feedback, both positive and critical, had been
taken into account and the review and the recommendations will
be taken to the board. In the leaked recording, somebody
called Darny Taylor tells the meeting she is resigning, before
saying it is a vote of no confidence in our board.
The second committee members are a person called Lauren Jeffreys,

(38:03):
her resignation saying she is hoping the committee and party
focus on how to build the culture and not just
focus on self promotion. Now, then they get to the
old business that I'm highly skeptical of in all circumstances.
The people who speak on the condition of anonymity. Now,
in some circumstances that's applicable, not all though, and people
hide behind it. And if I can't see your face
and I don't know your name, how do I trust you?

(38:25):
The divisions between Mission Control I'm quoting here, the divisions
between Mission Control and HQ were at the heart of
the ructions. HQ became a bit of a military hospital.
Mission Control was shooting their knee caps out faster than
HQ could patch everybody up? Is this campaign worker or
an analyst for all the New Zealand Defense Force? What
the hell's all this about. One source said that the

(38:47):
party had reassured candidates that they would be supported even
if something went wrong, but instead, when things did go wrong,
they felt candidates were left to deal with the fallout
on their own, and in some cases were thrown under
the bus. They described the campaign the treatment of volunteers
as being like a bizarre hunger games, where supporters were
ranked and rewarded based on their usefulness. Now, I don't
know the in or out of workings of act. All

(39:09):
I know is that that looks to me to be
a bit of a beat up in the sense that
you've got some aggrieved people who didn't like how things went.
If you look at a campaign, any party looks at
a campaign, the intense nature of the complicated nature of
the constantly unfolding nature of a campaign, you're going to
at the conclusion and get a lot of people saying,
I didn't like this, I didn't like that, that wasn't fair,
it's not on I want to go home, I want

(39:30):
to quit. Equally, you'll have other people going tell you
what all things considered in go bad. So, coming back
to the Murray party story, what you're dealing with is
very very specific allegations times, dates, names, places, copying, etc.
And you've got an investigation. This story is going to
go into next week, mark my words. When the Prime
Minister gets back, they're going to have to launch an
inquiry and a substantive one and it'll be interesting to

(39:53):
see what they find. So very specific allegations. What you
seem to have here is a bunch of wines who
didn't have a good time. Didn't like it, and they're
entitled too. They can be as aggrieved as they want.
But at the end of the day, what have you
got from what I've just told you, is that a
party facing a declaration of no confidence or just a
few grumpy people. They didn't like the way things turned out,
so they've left to go on and do something else.

(40:14):
You decide. Seven twenty My cost will breakfast. Michi was
a volunteer for ACT on the North Shore and we
were treated very well. The MP's were very friendly and inclusive.
This issue might just be at board level, not emp level,
and I think changes are being made and that's good.
Thank you for the update. It is seven twenty three.
Time out to make the week little piece of news
and current events. That's well, basically tipped it over the

(40:34):
line for news talks. They'd be at the radio awards
last night. Elections eight. Democracy in action is always good,
especially in a world where democracy doesn't reach all corners
and not everyone gets the same Elections eight Mexico the
first woman this week indiasame same bloke, but not the
way it was in South Africa. The perils are being
crooked came home to roost there I think, didn't They
are the crusaders three a year to forget and a

(40:57):
dynasty undone plenty of work ons as they say, But
that I old hackneyed sack. The coach thing reminds us
how trigger happy and superficial we can be at times,
don't you reckon? Are the fee at five hundred and seven?
Having turned it into an ev Guess what they announced
they're doing this week. They're sticking an engine back in it.
The lesson by the reality, don't overreact to the theory

(41:17):
p and o.

Speaker 12 (41:17):
Four.

Speaker 2 (41:19):
They blame the size of the market. I wonder about
it being a bit low rent to be frank in
reputation actually being the real issue. The Trump fundraising record.

Speaker 3 (41:26):
Six is in good shape. He's in good shack.

Speaker 2 (41:30):
Does that mean crime pace labor asking for your tax
cut too? Surely in opposition when you're not actually doing anything,
you can keep the stupidity down to a minimum t
y eight. What made this difference was the twenty year deal.
Twenty year solves a big problem over a long period
of time. The Maori Ward submissions this week three wat
wat yet more angsting around race. We already have the

(41:53):
best system right, it's called democracy, and anyone can run
and everyone gets a free and fear go try it.

Speaker 3 (41:59):
It works.

Speaker 2 (42:00):
The Hunger Striker zero three demands, three demands, not one met,
nor were they ever going to be obviously, which simply
reminds us that the self absorbed no bounds. Rupert Murdoch seven.
I reckon, if you get to your nineties, do whatever
you like, and who cares what the world thinks? Shakespeare six.

(42:21):
I personally found it dullais, but I was a fifth
former into sport. But a lot of others reckon you
might have had an influence. Are the radio awards eight
ZIB Station of the Year, NEVA Newsreader of the Year.
Are the people who produce this producers of the year,
and so it went. Turns out in the media landscape
listed recently with casualties, there are still quite a few
who have it together, delivered the goods, make the profits,

(42:41):
and revel in the future. That's well pretty bright. That's
the week copies on the website. And if you fold
six of these together and make one end a pointy end,
you can pop the lock on an act work really easy.
Asking Morning Mike is just wondering did putin talk about
Biden by any chance when you meet him. Very good question, Michael,
thank you for that. Talked about his or umpruck who's

(43:04):
umtruck Mann? He said that, and I said, at the
time I wasn't sure. But it turned out to be
Amtrak Joe. Of course in later years. It was only
in later years after after we were penpals. After we met,
he had to go home. I didn't know why at
the time. He said they must leave. No, and I said, okay,
good to see you, and we became penpals, and so
Amtrak Joe only became a thing in later years. Mike

(43:24):
was the Maori Party dodgy stuff mentioned on One Years.
A lot of you have texted me that this morning.
Can I just I'm not in charge of One News.
I don't know what one years do. I was once
employed by one News, but no more. And no, it
probably wasn't on One News. And what you're trying to
infer is that this is a stitch up, that the
government are involved, that there's a payoff in the offering here,

(43:45):
that someone's been bought, that everyone's it's a scandal, and
because they don't cover something, you know, all of a
sudden somebody's you know, and so it goes.

Speaker 12 (43:54):
I'm just to be clear, TV and ZED is not
in this building.

Speaker 14 (43:59):
We're not in that build.

Speaker 2 (44:00):
That's correct.

Speaker 12 (44:00):
People seem to get very confused about them.

Speaker 2 (44:02):
With each other.

Speaker 17 (44:03):
No.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
By the way of interest, I note this morning reportage
in the media the BSA complaints, Well, it's off to
the BSA. The number of complaints on Mikey Sherman's famous
or now infamous poll bam buckle up report. They got
hundreds of these complaints, Tan said, each and every one
of them was rejected, probably not surprisingly. They will now

(44:24):
go to the BSA. And you know my love for
the BSA, So this will be a real test for
them because my guess is what they should do and
what they will do with two different things. My guess
is that they'll let it ride. And my guess at
that point is everyone will go what that and once
again we'll have a conversation about what a waste of

(44:46):
time the BSA is. But let's see how that goes.
But there were three hundred and something reports about her
coverage on that anyway, access to specialists and health look
at this shortly.

Speaker 3 (44:55):
What the big news Bold opinions.

Speaker 1 (44:58):
The my costing breakfast with the range roversport setting the
benchmark in sporting luxury used Tog SAIDB.

Speaker 2 (45:05):
Just to refresh your memory, this was what the hundreds
complained about.

Speaker 20 (45:09):
Buckle up brace for impact free four bang may day
plummeting a nightmare is the honeymoon period over This pole
will absolutely rock the entire parliament.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Now to understand the BSA and I've been trying to
do it for about forty two years and have trouble,
and I think they have the same issue with me,
funnily enough, but having said that, you've actually got a
breach of broadcasting rule. And just because you don't like
something and you complained about it, and this is why
there's a two step stage. You write to the broadcaster
and go I saw this and it was no good
and it's not fair and I don't like it. They

(45:41):
can either accept that and do something about it, or
reject it. All of those complaints about Mikey have been
rejected and they will now go to the BSA and
the BSA rules and all they do. And we've got pinged.
I can't remember sometime was it this year? I can't
remember whatever. Anyway, it was a very unfair decision, and
the only recourse at that point is you can go
to court. And we thought to ourselves, do we really
need the house of going to court because we thought
we were unfairly treated? Anyway, Be that as it may,

(46:03):
you've got to breach a broadcasting rule. And I'm not
sure her being colorful and a little bit verbally and
perhaps having had too much coffee, then exactly, I don't
know that that's necessarily a breach. Yes you didn't like it,
Yes she shouldn't have done it, But I don't know
that it's a breach. Let's put it down to. And
I'm second guessing what the BSA will do, but I
don't think they'll do anything, and I would argue they

(46:25):
probably shouldn't. Let's put it down to. This was the
first major poll she did as a political editor. She
got a little hyped, little carried away, probably jollied along
by a few of the staff and all that sort
of stuff. Cameras are on bang. Next thing you know,
she's a headline twenty two minutes away from eight and
happened to be all being away to the USA. Now,
off the back of Shane Ritchi's announcement yesterday of the

(46:46):
thirty million dollars for fast access to radiology we've got
in a Tiger University study that's found there has been
an increase in the likelihood of patients being denied specialist appointment.
So between twenty eighteen and twenty twenty two, the number
of referrals from GPS to public hospital specialists were stable,
but the risk of being declined increased by five point
two percent. A Tiger University professor, Robin Gold, was the

(47:06):
co author of this particular work, and is what this Robin,
very good morning to you.

Speaker 17 (47:11):
What am Ike foragod to be here?

Speaker 2 (47:12):
I know that you're going to tell me it's tens
of thousands of people. That is five percent over four years.
That big a deal?

Speaker 17 (47:19):
Well, it's five more point two percent per year is
per So it is a big deal. It's seventeen thousand,
more than seventeen thousand extra people being denied over that
period of time.

Speaker 2 (47:30):
And the reason is what money staff or the GP overreached.
And you shouldn't be here in the first place.

Speaker 17 (47:38):
No, these are people who are well identified by a
GP as needing a specialist assessment or intervention by a
specialist so you know, they clinically, clinically decided by a GP.
I mean the issue is have do with longstanding issues,
to do with workforce. Sometimes it's with availability of allied
staff such as you know, technicians and so forth. Funding

(48:02):
because remember, people have denied treatment because there is not
enough funding available to go down to those who are
in need. So it's sort of a nasty combination of factors.

Speaker 2 (48:11):
Is this just the way we're looking at it? Because
in other words, what you could do instead of sending
them back to the GP is simply go, yep, we'll
put you on the list. Unfortunately, about list is four
years and sixteen months long, you know what I'm saying.
So it's one or the other, isn't it.

Speaker 17 (48:23):
Yeah, Well, look, our hospitals try very very hard, you know,
to bring these lists down. From time to time, they
get extra injections of funding and they'll run weekend clinics
and so forth. But it's an interminable problem and we
really need to tackle it in a much more concerted
and cohesive way. And there are various things that could
be done.

Speaker 2 (48:42):
Is it purely money? Like the radiology the thirty million,
thirty million buys you more radiology. We just need more
of this, yes And.

Speaker 17 (48:51):
That's that's a really good initiative action that was announced yesterday,
because that's about changing the system. That's about permitting people
to be referred by a GP for radiology before they
see the specialist in the first place. So we need
more sort of innovation within the system and that's what
yesterday's announcement is all about.

Speaker 21 (49:08):
Now.

Speaker 2 (49:09):
I don't want to make this all about grandmother research,
but I know of a couple of people at the
moment who have gone along to their GP. They've been
referred to a specialist for scans, for MRIs, for a
specialist consultation. All of it's happened in what I would
regard as as an exceedingly short period of time. In
other words, to my eye, the system works a treat.

(49:29):
What's happening with them that allegedly isn't happening with thousands
of others.

Speaker 17 (49:35):
Well, you know, the system is not perfect, and for
some people it works really well, and that's the case
with the people you know. For others it doesn't, and
sometimes it takes advocacy. There's quite a lot involved in
all of this, and that shouldn't be the case. You
shouldn't be having to advocate and phone up and try
and work out what's happening. So, yes, it works terrifically

(49:56):
for many people, and most people will say that the
care that they get when they receive its absolutely terrific.
But that's not always the case.

Speaker 2 (50:04):
Okay, So as the person who doesn't get the access
degrades in terms of health, do they not bump up
the list to the point where they do get accepted
or does that not happen?

Speaker 17 (50:15):
They do bump up, and often it will take a
re referral l by the GP, so they'll have another
go and at that point you might be bumped up
the lift.

Speaker 2 (50:24):
Okay, you call it a national scandal short of literally
money being thrown at stuff and that buys one the
equipment and to the specialists. Is there anything else obvious
we can do or we're just going to be having
these reports till the day we die.

Speaker 17 (50:39):
Well, I think there's quite a bit we can do.
The new budget announce announced about five billion dollars going
into hospital specialist services and into primary care and community health.
I think there's a good opportunity now the new government
to allocate some of that money torectly to unmet needs,
and then they can be starting to look at things
like how do we get our hospitals, spece sosts and

(51:00):
our gps together to form unmet these care teams. So
then come up with more innovations like the one that
was announced yesterday to try and unblock the system and
give greater access to people. Of course we need more
training of specialists and allied providers, but there's a range
of things that could be done with will all right
go well.

Speaker 2 (51:20):
Robin appreciate it very much, Doctor Robin Gould, co author
and co director of the Tigo Center for Health Systems
and Technology seventeen to wait Already the breakfast Mike, as
a former director of ASH, I disagree with bigel Hol's
approach to the youth. Vaping education does not change behavior.
Vaping is used by young to start smoking and is
not like nicotine patches and gumma, not effective means of quitting.

(51:40):
Vape should be available only by prescription. So that's basically
you're arguing, Jennie, what they what they did in Australia.
I just wonder how many more reports we need to write.
I don't think anything's going to happen. I think you've
got to get to a point of some sort of
level of self responsibility. I mean, you can have rules.
Are you remotely surprised that if you send somebody out
the same will be with booze? If you send somebody
out to do something like buy a vapor or buy

(52:02):
a bottle of booze? Do you think anybody behind that
count is checking or gives the monkeys about them? Of
course they're not so telling us in a report that
things aren't working. It's the classic.

Speaker 12 (52:12):
Can we get the lady from the supermarket who seems
to have to come over to confirm that I am
in fat?

Speaker 2 (52:16):
Oh yeah, supermarkets are a bit different, aren't they, I suppose.

Speaker 12 (52:19):
But I'm standing there with the bottle of Chareers and
she looks me up and down.

Speaker 2 (52:25):
Oh yeah, it's at six fifteen in the morning. And
that's embarrassing. You got to stop that. We got boozed
delivered to the house. Funny just we got boost delivered
to the house for the first time I think ever.
And it's the it's that lolly water that the youngest drinks,
and that got clicked online and delivered to the house.
And we may be eighteen, We may not.

Speaker 12 (52:46):
Be you've never had a fine wine delivery before.

Speaker 2 (52:48):
Well, yeah, but that's different. Declen the RTD business, the
RTD business. But there was no check at all that
we were eighteen. And that's at the door this morning
waiting to be coy.

Speaker 12 (52:59):
Somebody would have to take a box on the well.

Speaker 2 (53:01):
Of course online anyone can take a box. But that's
why anyone, well, the twelve year old can do that,
can't they. Regarding specialist appointments, Mike, it would be interesting
to know which are the specialties that are waiting the
longest or being denied. And then secondly, it'd be good
if there was a study done on the number of
DNA for specialist appointments, where this then pushes the list

(53:23):
even further back. Regionality will be your other assure. Didn't
have time to ask that, but that's the standard question
you ask in regionality. The bigger the center, generally speaking,
the more specialists available, the more machineries available to you,
et cetera. Slightly emotional, as I said here speaking to
you right now, I've just looked out my window to
my left and there's the little Coffee Kiosk Little Coffee

(53:45):
kiosk that I've told you about over the last couple
of months. It was called birds. Was it called birds?
You notice I used the word was Anyway, Birds opened
earlier on this year, so that on outside our buildings,
a what do you call it a deck? Whatever you
call it a promenade, Let's call it a promenade.

Speaker 14 (53:59):
It's a I don't think we could really call it.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
Let's call it for our radio purposes. Painting the picture, Glenn,
it's beautiful promenade. Anyway. In the middle of the promenade
is this kiosk that was built. And there was a
coffee shop there and there is no longer a coffee
shop there. And then a new one started called Berts,
and I was right into it. And we went and
bought three coffees, didn't we three coffees, went brought them.
I thought, this will help you really push the boat out.
And then all of a sudden last week they didn't

(54:23):
turn up, and I thought, here we go watch, could
be sick, something might have happened, could be a COVID outbreak.
Day two, day, three day for no lights And I thought, right,
we're done for anyway. I've just seen them now. The
lights were on, and I thought, fantastic, yes.

Speaker 12 (54:39):
Because I'm still waiting for my kiosk updatesting to come
back from production.

Speaker 2 (54:43):
Well, i'd tell them to put that on whole glen
because the lights were on, and I thought, here we go.
Maybe they've just been sick or away or whatever. Lights
were on, and I looked down and there were two
people there. One was taking out the stools, not to
put on the ground, but to put them into a
back of a van, and the other one was taking
out the rubbish bag. And then they turned the lights

(55:05):
out and they closed the door, and the van has
gone and that is the end of another business in
New Zealand. And I literally just watched that unfold in
front of my eyes. And that's sad, because we need
good coffee. Turn Away from eight.

Speaker 3 (55:20):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with news Dog.

Speaker 2 (55:24):
Zib six Away from eight Wine Makers are busy at
the moment. After collecting the grapes for the vintage and
one of our more successful exporters in Vivo, they're currently
in New York where tomorrow they're going to be in
the middle of city Field with Sarah Jessica Parker. City Field,
of course, as the home of the Mets in Vibo
co founded Tim Lightbourne is in New York and as
well as Tim Good Morning, Good Mike, Summer in New Yorky.

(55:44):
You're vibing it.

Speaker 15 (55:47):
Yeah, it's a beautiful weather over here. I think it's
to that eighty stoneheight. Big day to Morris. So we're
looking forward to it.

Speaker 2 (55:52):
Indeed, I checked the schedule. They're not back until next
week the Mets to play the marl And so you've
got the field to yourself. Are you on the field?
Where are you?

Speaker 15 (56:00):
We're in the middle of the field at the stadium there.
So we've got a little table on second base with
a film crew there. We're invited by it's all across
the US. So yeah, it's gonna be pretty exciting.

Speaker 2 (56:10):
Why the middle of a baseball field?

Speaker 15 (56:14):
So yeah, said blend with her, and we saw it.
How can we make it big? How can we open
ourselves up to a bigger, bigger audience instead of sort
of being close in the room somewhere at a winery
or something. So we thought, why not at our spectacular stadium,
you know, get their film crew, get the media there
as well, and open it up to the US.

Speaker 2 (56:34):
How difficult, I mean Sarah Jessica Parker helps of course,
but how difficult is it to get noise and attention
in a place like New York file as a market
like America.

Speaker 15 (56:43):
Yeah, it's super tough. So you've got to do things really,
really different. You know, we can't sit home and you
hind them and cross our favors. They were, to my surprise,
up for it, so they had to describe what we're
going to be doing tasty wine in the middle of
the field. But we've just been there today checking it out,
and it's going to be pretty huge. I think the
media interested in what we're up to. We've got two

(57:04):
of the largest wide magazines in the US coming tomorrow.
Good So, I mean, it's not another tasting in the
fancy restaurant or at a trade show. It's something different from.

Speaker 2 (57:11):
The fantastic what you read on the economy and your
ability to sell the stuff.

Speaker 15 (57:16):
It's actually it's pretty good up here at New York
or Manhattan. Sens to be pumping New Zealand. Wine's still
in vogue over here. I think, you know, there's still
a big opportunity for us up here. Talking to retailers yesterday,
they still think seving on blanc On, New Zealand is
probably one of the only growing countries and ritals.

Speaker 2 (57:32):
Fantastic. I don't want to be a fanboy about it
or anything, but Sarah Jessica Parker, it might well be
the loveliest person in the world, might she not?

Speaker 15 (57:40):
Yeah, she's also a great partner. We got really lucky
with her. She's pretty hands on as well. She comes
to meetings with buyers with me. Jumped on a train
for three hours just at one buyer, So we couldn't
asked for a better partner. And you know tomorrow she
has no hesitation. She's a fan of the Mets. Same
with her husband, Messy Prodricks. So they fell well up
for it tomorrow.

Speaker 2 (57:58):
Good stuff. When she went on that trained for three
hours to the buy did they did they buy more
than one bottle?

Speaker 15 (58:04):
They certainly did have one of the largest retailers in
the country. Yeah, she said, on that train and it
came with us meeting.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Good on you mate, go well, nice to catch up
Tim Lightbourne, who was the ENVBO co founder, and so
they're they're doing the serving.

Speaker 14 (58:16):
I was probably just glad to get out of the
shoe shop to be to be fair, it was.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
To be fair that story if you didn't get she
owns the shoe shop on Bleaker Street, and she's there
not every day obviously, certainly not nine to five. In fact,
some of the stuff say she's a bit slack. But anyway,
when she does turn up. She happened to be there
the day we were there and we missed it by
about two minutes. It was a Saturday, so she pops in,
so that would be quite.

Speaker 12 (58:37):
I wonder if she's interested in running a coffee kiosk.

Speaker 2 (58:39):
I I missed that opportunity. I should have because she
catched the train in New Zealand and open up reopen
up birds, turn it into a wine bar exactly. My
husband had a hospital specialist appointment for October, got a
note Monday. It's now tomorrow. They're trying to relieve the backlog.
Shout out. So there you go. It's an interesting thing,
isn't it? Just just our experience. It seems to work,
and then you get the reports of the teen it

(59:00):
doesn't seem to work. Let's do the week with Tim
and Katie after the news, which is next here a
news talks heb.

Speaker 1 (59:08):
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Speaker 13 (59:19):
On news Talks, Edbute Listens.

Speaker 2 (59:31):
Interesting Divorce. I'll be let me come to this in
just a moment. It's this is Cassandra. No, no, well,
this is the album.

Speaker 14 (59:42):
Oh I see you.

Speaker 2 (59:43):
No, no, don't don't know.

Speaker 14 (59:44):
I'm just so used to you.

Speaker 2 (59:45):
I was trying to correct myself before anyone noticed, but
you blew that for me.

Speaker 12 (59:49):
Sorry, hey, guys, just forget that I said anything.

Speaker 2 (59:51):
This is Cassandra, which is the name of the album
by Andrew day So nine years between Cheers to the
Fall and this one. She starred in the United States
v Billie Holiday, won a Golden Globe and a Grammy,
nominated for an Academy Award. Rise Up was performed at
the twenty sixteen Democratic National Convention. Not that that changed

(01:00:14):
the course of history. And the bit I need to
be honest about is there are pew to B sixteen tracks.
I haven't had time to add them up because the
Boss has just turned up hungover from last night's radio
awards activities, and I was giving him a tongue lashing
for his unprofessionalism.

Speaker 12 (01:00:28):
And so therefore what's more unproficial him turning up hangover
or you not turning up?

Speaker 2 (01:00:34):
Actually yeah, no, good question, Yeah, fair question.

Speaker 1 (01:00:37):
A week in review with two degrees fighting for fear
for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:00:42):
I did have my colonic irrigation which I very hard
to get the appointment I did so I did so
believe Katie, you of all people would know how difficult
it is to get the colonic irrigation and appointment every second.

Speaker 22 (01:00:57):
Third, I don't even know how you came up was
that your speakers did confuse the minister as well. And
I mean, first of all from great certain like ZV
Station of the Year and Sammy and the Green Fat
producers best producers of course, because they have to it
with you. They need metals, not awards.

Speaker 23 (01:01:13):
For words, medication coach exactly, best talk to again.

Speaker 22 (01:01:18):
So a huge night to zib and that was awesome
and really well was said. But your speech confused the
minister and that was a unique opportunity to get a
message of very important message across to the new minister broadcasting.
And he stood up and said, I don't know what
my costume was saying apart from leading him alone. So
could you explain what you wanted the minister to know.

Speaker 2 (01:01:37):
Now this is this is you. You put me in
the invidious position already. So I was under tremendous pressure
from the senior management of this company to raise the
issue of is it licenses or frequencies? I think it's
licenses anyway, apparently we have this is this is all.
This is high for Luton admin that I know nothing.

Speaker 12 (01:01:55):
You're always the one who's complaining that we're not on
a FM and places like in Viicago.

Speaker 2 (01:02:00):
Is that is that what that's about? Oh, in that case,
sign it unovable.

Speaker 22 (01:02:04):
Saturation coverage of getting the networks more places with a frequency.
You know, we need that to explain it.

Speaker 2 (01:02:10):
Good point, That's what I was trying to say.

Speaker 24 (01:02:12):
And unfortunately we've got people in the cargo who have
got a battery power radio and each hand, yeah, but
one in each hand to try and replicate what it
would actually.

Speaker 2 (01:02:23):
Sound like if they were listening on and now and
now that Rio Tinto I've signed that twenty year deal.
Every time you drive past the bloody place you go.

Speaker 23 (01:02:31):
Actually, if Mike, if you will again, can Cap do
your acceptance speech because it sounds like she's got the
talking points. And also she shows up. This is this
is you're absolutely rightly when you were saying, what is
it more professional to show up hungover the next day
and or not to show up at all? It's not
about you, mate, It's about the audience.

Speaker 15 (01:02:51):
Go there the room.

Speaker 22 (01:02:53):
I try to tell him that, and I also to
tell him keep it humble. That doesn't work either, as
he counted nominated and I hadn't do that stuff, honestly.
And then the fact that I think you skipped the
important point, which was to explain that we're in more
licenses to pull the left saying that was the point.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
I thought I had a good night, But now I
feel I feel I feel like, actually two days you.

Speaker 15 (01:03:17):
Know what you've had, You've had a second irrigation exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
Now good news is do you know? Do you guess?
Guess what Sammy's wearing this morning?

Speaker 22 (01:03:24):
Caddy, I've already sudden he's coming and suit. What I
want is a photo of Salmon's green suit with and you.

Speaker 2 (01:03:31):
Can okay, well you can do that, but you can
go to I'm assuming there's a video. Can you go
to a video somewhere of the night? Is there a
video of the night? Yeah, right. You go to the
video of the night where he stood up in the suit,
and it was it was more embarrassing than I had
imagined because I hadn't I hadn't seen the suit, and
when I did the video acceptance, I just assumed the

(01:03:52):
suit was a beautiful, lush, deep forest green and when
he stood up, people would go, what's he talking about?
Hoskin's got no tape. That's a really cool suit, unfortunately,
because it was made in Malaysia by mister Sharma, established
in nineteen ninety six, and it came in at the
Grand t What do you think now you'd appreciate this, Tim?
What do you think sound paid for a suit, handstitched, handmade,

(01:04:17):
custom made in Malaysia. What do you reckon? He paid
twenty seven ninety nine, Ki, we close very close? Really
twenty one dollars seventy six.

Speaker 22 (01:04:29):
Where can we see this video? Where can we see it?

Speaker 24 (01:04:31):
Well?

Speaker 2 (01:04:31):
Go viral now probably, but now I don't know. Go
to the Radio Awards website and they'll have it on
there and done. He's wearing that suit. Now for you, Tim,
hot gossip? You ready for this hot gossip? Guess who
was there last night that you would look at and
you'd go, I wonder way they're here.

Speaker 23 (01:04:49):
Huh, give me a clue.

Speaker 2 (01:04:51):
Brad Olsen, after the rooms you gave him last year,
he was back. He's a serial attendee.

Speaker 22 (01:05:02):
Podcast or something like everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:05:04):
He has no podcast.

Speaker 23 (01:05:07):
On everyone else's podcasts. He's a great shower up of
that brown.

Speaker 2 (01:05:11):
He's a fantastic guy. Now here's the embarrassing thing. Last
last year, Sammy of the Green Suit bought Bradley a
red Bull because Bradley, as we know, doesn't drink. And
my accusation that he was off his face and dancing
on the floor that was bordering on libel does and
of course proved not to be true. We danced, We
certainly danced.

Speaker 12 (01:05:30):
It was true and the way and we thought the
only explanation for the dancing was because exact.

Speaker 14 (01:05:35):
No, it was red Bull.

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
You couldn't you couldn't blame me. So anyway, so Bradley
comes up last night and he goes, you bought me
a red Bull last year. I owe you a drink,
and so Sammy said, of the Green Suit, he said, absolutely,
I'll have I'll have a Roman lemonade because that's us
go to drink. I'll have a rum and lemonade. And
Bradley goes to let me see what I can do

(01:05:57):
about this, and Bradley disappeared and he never came back.
And the ever bought the drink. Oh oh seven so
lemonade exact right, well sorts, rum and lemonade anyway, exactly.
So Sammy's mum had given him twenty bucks.

Speaker 23 (01:06:12):
For the drunk what Sammy gave him some dough?

Speaker 2 (01:06:15):
Yeah no, Sammy, get no, no, you didn't give him
the dough. But Sammy's mum had given him given Sammy
twenty bucks for drinks for the night.

Speaker 15 (01:06:22):
No, she haded stop it.

Speaker 22 (01:06:25):
Award winning sam should not have.

Speaker 15 (01:06:26):
To put up with us, Yeah, put up with this.

Speaker 23 (01:06:30):
We were giving you the colonic, not Sam. Thank you
very much.

Speaker 2 (01:06:33):
Break We're in a moment. Kate Hawksby to Wilson fourteen
past the mike, asking breakfast. It be at seventeen past eight.

Speaker 1 (01:06:41):
The Week in Review with two degrees fighting for fear
for Kiwi business.

Speaker 2 (01:06:45):
Sim Wilson, Kate Hawksby with us this Friday morning, Katie,
what are we gonna do about the sorry one?

Speaker 22 (01:06:50):
I just I got I've got some breaking news. I
got a breaking new update. Yes, threw on the text
from Semmy saying, it is a lovely green from a
guy who does all the fit of the cabinet ministers
in Malaysia's thirteen hundred dollars. Right, Jason is going to
see video and I'm going to put up on my

(01:07:10):
Instagram so people can see it.

Speaker 2 (01:07:12):
Good, good, good to what we need. It's the oldest size,
to explained to Sammy yesterday when he was he talked
me through the whole cabinet minister thing. It's the oldest
game in town. So what you do is you go
into the back alleys of Manila or wherever he was
in the Third World. And the first thing that San
Jeep l mister Singh says to you goes I do.

(01:07:33):
I do all the suits for the government. And then
what he didn't tell you is a bloke walked in
while he was being measured up from the minister, the
defense minister, the Defense Minister's office with a bottle of wine.
Oh sorry, the Defense minister himself. The Defense minister himself
walks into the shop with a bottle of wine and says,

(01:07:53):
mister sing good afternoon. I just came by to thank
you so much. For my latest series of suits. You
are the best tailor in Manila. I don't know how
to thank you enough.

Speaker 14 (01:08:04):
I believe it was Panang. It's weird.

Speaker 12 (01:08:07):
Because I got my suit from a guy in New
Zealand who claimed he does all the suits for the
for the Malaysian Kdnet exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:08:14):
So the guys in the back room, he pretends to
be the Minister of Defense. He comes out with a
bottle of wine and he goes, oh, look, it's the
Minister of Defense has just walked into things.

Speaker 12 (01:08:23):
And claims he looked him up and it's definitely the guy.
So it's definitely a guy who looks like him anyway.

Speaker 19 (01:08:27):
Looks like him.

Speaker 23 (01:08:28):
Okay, okay, I'm realizing why you were so successful, Mike.
You don't include any of the segment in your entry,
do you. Because we've got being called Manila, we've got
to walk back. We've got false allegation.

Speaker 2 (01:08:42):
Apologies. Yeah yeah, probably a BSA complaint before we know.
Quick question for you, Okadie, what are we going to
do about birds? Birds?

Speaker 22 (01:08:50):
Are the coffee key off that you were kind of
support that's now gone?

Speaker 2 (01:08:53):
Yes?

Speaker 22 (01:08:53):
Oh yeah, I don't know. I don't know what we
can do. And if they've gone, they've gone, haven't they?

Speaker 2 (01:08:57):
Is there a sad a site than people carrying three
broken down metal stools stacked upon each other and a
rubbish bag and turning the light out.

Speaker 20 (01:09:06):
You're surely not.

Speaker 22 (01:09:07):
Moving because you you are only saying to me, I
don't know that they're in the best position for maximum people.

Speaker 2 (01:09:13):
And that's why Glenn's so successful. Glenn said, how do
you know they haven't moved to larger premises?

Speaker 23 (01:09:21):
And I'm thinking, yeah, but it is true.

Speaker 2 (01:09:24):
It's true.

Speaker 23 (01:09:24):
It's true, mate, Like you know, you know when you
see when you see stores closing, like closing down sale
or empty stores on on streets, you realize that there's
a tragedy there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:34):
Family Smith, don't Smith and Coey me on an already
emotional morning.

Speaker 23 (01:09:40):
Sorry mate, sorry, but I had to go there. It's
so true.

Speaker 3 (01:09:43):
It is true.

Speaker 23 (01:09:43):
Business, it is a struggle.

Speaker 2 (01:09:45):
Quick pop quiz? You interested you to in a quick
pop quiz or not?

Speaker 22 (01:09:48):
You should have bought more coffees? Are the questions hard?
We don't like hard questions.

Speaker 2 (01:09:52):
I find them easy, but you might find.

Speaker 16 (01:09:55):
What about I've got a pop quiz.

Speaker 23 (01:09:57):
I've got a pop quiz for you is Manila infanang or.

Speaker 2 (01:10:01):
That's a very good question. And is Manila north to
the southeast of Penang or as Penang to the southwest
of Manila. Those are the other quite often asked questions.
How long is how how long has William Roach been
on Coronation Stream?

Speaker 15 (01:10:14):
Who?

Speaker 2 (01:10:15):
Okay, this isn't going to go well what Helen Worth?
Helen Worth announced this week she's leaving coronations fifty years.
Fifty years, okay, fifty years for Helen Worth. Even though
I gave you the answer, Katie, correct one still on there?
No dead did guy at the radio awards Coronation Street.

(01:10:39):
Don't say stuff like that.

Speaker 23 (01:10:40):
I don't even been renamed.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
No, it's it's on television. Actually, good question.

Speaker 3 (01:10:45):
Is it still on?

Speaker 2 (01:10:47):
Actually I think I think it is. It's it will
be on the on demand.

Speaker 15 (01:10:51):
It's in Manila.

Speaker 22 (01:10:54):
I'm not going to keep winning the awards if your
material isn't relevant.

Speaker 2 (01:10:57):
They seem as a nostalgia prize. They go like the
good Old Days. It's sad time now for the Good
Old Days Award. The winner again is Mike Hosking. If
I will, Katie, I will give you the thrill of
your life. And that's any thrill that you choose. Uh huh,
But I think we know what one you choose, if
you can, if you can tell me how long you don't?

Speaker 15 (01:11:17):
But okay, yeah, yeah, hell.

Speaker 2 (01:11:21):
If Helen Worth has been on Coronation Street for fifty years,
how long has Barbara Knox been on Coronation Street?

Speaker 23 (01:11:27):
Why Coronation Street?

Speaker 22 (01:11:28):
Christians?

Speaker 2 (01:11:28):
Who's yep, you're lost?

Speaker 15 (01:11:32):
What you say? Fifty eight? Say fifty eight?

Speaker 2 (01:11:35):
Tim, I couldn't offer you the same thrill like an
off of Katie, but that answers port. Can I go completely?
I am leaving the forty two years as the answer.
Lovely to see you, guys, Kate Hawksby and Tim Wilson.
It's eight twenty two the Mike Hosking Rekast where the

(01:11:56):
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stop paying too much with Chemist Warehouse Osky Mike. You
should ask your penpal to buy the coffee Chiosk converted
into an RTD store.

Speaker 12 (01:12:49):
It's good to yourself. That person has been listening all morning.
It's a lot of callback s.

Speaker 2 (01:12:53):
Text that's good stuff. Medical treatments are off in complex Mike,
with multiple components creating a lot of cancelations. If you
live close by with good about ability, make sure you
tell them this is a very good point. Actually, my
husband saw his specialist last week. MRI booked for three
months time, but they called yesterday and he's right there.
See the person, I won't name them, but the person
had an issue. They went along to the doctor and

(01:13:15):
the doctor went, right, you'll need an MRI and you'll
need an x ray. So I think I went and
got the x ray the next day, and they got
the MRI within a couple of days. And then you
also then with that information need to go see the specialists.
And they got into the specialists well within a week.
And that's not the only person that is just right
here now this is ongoing. And then that's before I
can give you another family member with this isn't a
family member, but I can give you a family member

(01:13:36):
who's had a medical situation in the last couple of
weeks in which the GP was contacted, Scripts were offered,
specialists were appointed and all just bing bing big. It
all seems to work.

Speaker 12 (01:13:48):
So neither of them were living in Temori or Mouth.

Speaker 2 (01:13:51):
And so that regionality might well be a little bit
of an issue. Now, Murray olds he is he is
standing by and will update us on all things Australia
directly after the news which is next on the Mike
Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (01:14:03):
Setting the news agenda and digging into the issues, the
Mic Hosking.

Speaker 3 (01:14:07):
Breakfast with a Veda Live the age you feel news talk.

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
Edd because it just me? Or does the US cricket
player not sound very American? No, there's there's a whole
story behind all that whole. That whole I'm an American
thing is as a story for another day, Mike. I'm
sure Mike's friends had private health insurance to get appointment
so quickly. This is what I'm trying to tell you. No, no, no, no,
this is the public system. So don't be so cynical.
This is the public system. And by and large it

(01:14:33):
appears and I know this is just my circumstances, and
I get it, and it's not reflective all over the country.
I understand it. But what I'm saying is the two current, living,
breathing examples in the public system, and the system works well.

Speaker 12 (01:14:46):
I usually find I get more help when I keep
the fact that I work with you out of the conversation.

Speaker 2 (01:14:50):
Very much so. Twenty three minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:14:53):
International Correspondence with ends and eye Insurance Peace of mind
for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (01:14:58):
Hoste Murray Olds, how are you, Michael?

Speaker 21 (01:15:02):
Very good morning, pretty good?

Speaker 2 (01:15:03):
Thank you now so yoga instructors, no problem at all.
But if you can swing a hammer and put a
nail in some wood problematic. How do you explain this, Well, the.

Speaker 21 (01:15:14):
Government's under a bit of pressure to try and explain
it exactly right. Only one in five foreign tradees was
invited to apply for a visa in the first eighteen
months of the Labor government. Over Here, we've got a
housing crisis and Labour set up something called Jobs and
Skills Australia, a brand new organization under the Home Affairs Department.

(01:15:36):
But for some bizarre reason, they say that they were
in line with government guidelines. But as you say, yoga
teachers were put ahead of builders, electricians, tilers, plumbers. Nine
newspapers reported even, I mean this is bizarre. Apparently golfers,
real estate agents and amusement center managers were among occupations
added to the list of skilled occupations considered desirable for

(01:15:58):
Australia in twenty twenty four. I mean, please, they're living
under power lines of this mob. New South Wales in
the meantime, wants to steal New Zealand police officers, and
the Australian Defense is ready to pinch any care we
want to sign up to be in the Army, Navy,
your bloody Air Force. It's just ridiculous. I mean, it's
just beyond explanation. It's like one of those television shows. Yes, Minister,

(01:16:19):
it's even more bizarre than that. And yes the government
is under pressure to try and explain it because no
one can figure it out.

Speaker 2 (01:16:26):
Weird as so, I'm reading this week about how the
Reserve Bank not so long ago. See one of the
upsides of COVID is everybody, because they could go no where,
took all their money put it in the bank. Savings
are looking good and then all of a sudden we
find out actually, whoops, that's not the case, and the
cost of living has been and then you're dipping into
savings like you never have to. So who's right and
how come people get figured so wrong?

Speaker 21 (01:16:44):
Well, the Reserve Bank said only last year that savings
were at a decent level. Well, the most latest stats
show that, in fact the reverse is the case, as
you said. In fact, savings levels are down to levels
not seen since two thousand and seven according.

Speaker 3 (01:16:59):
To Way Estimate.

Speaker 21 (01:17:00):
So people are basically dipping in to survive the cost
of living crisis, and at the same time We've got
new figures that show the economy on life support. It
grew by zero point one percent in the first three
months of this year annually one point one percent. So
we're not in recession technically. Tell that to mums and
dads trying to pay the mortgage. There are forty percent
of people over here with the mortgage and they're living

(01:17:22):
on dog food. I mean a lot of them. It's well,
not quite, but you know what I'm saying. It is really, really,
really tough. We've got bizarrely, we've got more people in work,
but what that is The Reserve Bank this week Michelle
Bullock is the new boss of the Reserve Bank, Open,
candid and very much prepared to put politicians in their

(01:17:43):
place when they try and get her up before centate
estimates and make her look silly. I'm sorry, I'm not
about to play your silly games.

Speaker 15 (01:17:50):
She said.

Speaker 21 (01:17:50):
Listen, the economy mixed messages. Yes, more people are getting work,
but boy boy, it's very very tough out there with
economic growth very very flat. And she said, guess what
if inflation hangs around? And it's the phrase I've not
heard before, is sticky sticky inflation? If that hangs around,

(01:18:10):
we will pull the lever and put interest rates up again. Well,
that's the last thing governments want to hear. It's the
last thing at Australian you know, mums and dads want
to hear because they are doing it very very tough.

Speaker 2 (01:18:22):
Mike having said that, is there a two speed economy?
Because so sales of new cars here all year, month
after month, so janfeed, March, April, May down, downtown may
win up a little bit from April, but from a
very low base. So in other words, it reflects the
economy your figures this week, because I follow the car
market increases each and every month so far this year,

(01:18:42):
and you are at record levels of new car sales.
So that's obviously what people with no debt who can
go buy a new car, because how do you explain that?

Speaker 21 (01:18:51):
Indeed, I mean that Fraser use two speed economy. I
only heard yesterday there was an analysis down on I
forget what's station I was listening to. It was the ABC,
the National broadcaster. But for people who have paid off
their homes, they tend to be older people. Of course,
they've still got big levels of savings and the other
ones going on overseas holidays are the ones who are

(01:19:12):
buying new cars, the other ones who are upgrading their homes.
So look, it is very much a case of those
who have and those who are really really struggling and haven't.
How that's resolved. I mean it's going to be the
election must be held before May next year.

Speaker 2 (01:19:28):
You reckon it will be very interesting. You reckon logo
this year? He says, no.

Speaker 21 (01:19:35):
But I'll tell you what if we get to the
new financial year inflation ticks down half a point, which
is what all the economists are expecting it to do. Yes,
you could pull the trigger before Christmas, absolutely, because he
doesn't want to give Dutton any more room to have
that long run up off the boundary to come in
and put a few around the around his snockbox. Because

(01:19:58):
it is very very Look, it's going to be, no
doubt about it.

Speaker 2 (01:20:01):
Speaking of done this Friedenburg thing that was floating around
this week and old Josh is coming out of Melbourne
and retirement and all that sort of stuff. Was that
even real or not? Really?

Speaker 17 (01:20:09):
Well?

Speaker 3 (01:20:10):
Good question?

Speaker 21 (01:20:11):
I mean Friedenburg he lost his seat to the Teals,
his seat of Kuyong absolute the bluest of blue ribbon
liberal seats he lost to the teal Monique. Forget a surname.

Speaker 2 (01:20:23):
Doctor doctor, the pediatrit old doctor Minique. She's clearly made
an impression on the political scene there. Murray Old document.

Speaker 21 (01:20:30):
He's down in Victoria. We don't pay much attention south
to the Murray River, to be honest.

Speaker 3 (01:20:33):
But you know, the whole.

Speaker 21 (01:20:38):
The whole structure of seats in Melbourne could be upended
because there's a draft proposal to get rid of one
of the seats down there, currently held by another Teal.
And what that would have done is make cou Yong,
which was Fridenburg's old seat, a bit easier for the
Liberals to win. So one or two of them said,
what about Josh? What about you? Josh, he's in banking,

(01:20:59):
he doesn't want to come back to politics, but he
could sniff the wind. Could I be an MP again?
And if he is elected again, he would definitely be
challenging Peter Dutton because Dutton is.

Speaker 2 (01:21:09):
Dead in the water.

Speaker 3 (01:21:09):
No one's going to vote for that guy.

Speaker 21 (01:21:11):
But here's the thing. The Liberals had already pre selected
a really, very very good female candidates. She's thirty one
years old, Oxford educated liberal blue blood whose father those
grand dad, I beg your pardon. Was a liberal premier
down there. Are they really going to exacerbate the women
problem they've got by dumping her and bringing in Friedenbig.

Speaker 2 (01:21:30):
He could smell that a mile away.

Speaker 21 (01:21:32):
He said, no, no, no, I'm not interested right now,
and Peter Dutton definitely would be breathing.

Speaker 3 (01:21:36):
A sigh of relief.

Speaker 2 (01:21:36):
Ryan Monica, Ryan Manick, Ryan, thank you good only mate,
and you go well, we'll catch up next week. Or
thank Murray holds out of Australia for this Friday morning
and say forty four The cost Racist by Mike House.
I moved to Australia three years ago with no money.
He just bought a new Tesla. He paid seventy thousand
dollars cash. Go figure. I assume you're suggesting he got

(01:21:58):
a job and earned some money as opposed to stealing it. Mike,
how Sun works in car sales up in Queensland sales
absolutely going off.

Speaker 3 (01:22:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:22:05):
I can't explain it other than I would have thought
the economy. He was similar, there are people with no
debt and therefore they're doing okay. If you're gainfully employed
and you've got no debt, then you know you can
buy a car, and yet we are just not buying
cars the way we certainly the way they are in Australia.
By the way, a moral question for you, So, on
the morning I've told you that my beloved Birds seems
to have closed down permanently, I've been holding off on

(01:22:26):
the news. I've seen the lack of lights over the
last couple of days, and I've just been hoping someone's
been ill or something un towards happened. And unfortunately this morning,
if you missed the story, they've come in and taken
the stools, and they've collected the rubbish bag and they're
gone and that's the end of that. And yet in
front of me as I speak to you, I have
a cup of El Tura coffee, which is the company

(01:22:47):
across the other side of the road, which is still
in business. So the moral question to you, on the
morning that I mourn the loss of a business, is
it acceptable for me to consume product of somebody else
in the marketplace.

Speaker 14 (01:23:03):
Well, it's not like you could be consuming theirs if
they're not serving it.

Speaker 2 (01:23:06):
Yeah, no, that's true, because you're supposed to do.

Speaker 12 (01:23:08):
Just give up coffee forever to go on a hunger strike.

Speaker 2 (01:23:12):
No, I'm just thinking of there's a period of morning
and going yep, and I'd love a coffe from and
crossing because the boss is buying today because everyone here
is you know, hungover and acceptable. I'm not, but you know,
Day is shouting and I said yes, And so I
have this thing in front of me and I've drunk
it sort of like from the opposition will be in.

Speaker 12 (01:23:32):
It tats a bit better.

Speaker 14 (01:23:35):
Or not? Really, that's quite yummy.

Speaker 2 (01:23:38):
Ten minutes away from timest breakfast with the range Rover
Sports News Zeeland just come to the party. They've announced
this morning they're are going to be flying to Barley
NonStop any time of the year and it's been a
limited service up until this particular point in time. And
there more suits for your Sammi between March and not

(01:24:00):
tob and if you're going out apart from meeting, fly
Australia via Quantus or Jetstar if you want to do that.
So anyway, they're just expanding. So that's that's the particular
part of the world opening up Coronation Street. The other
interesting piece of news I can give you. We asked
the question after eight is it still on air. It
is Tuesdays two Thursdays or Tuesdays and Thursdays, Tuesday's Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday, Tuesday,

(01:24:21):
Wednesday and Thursday. That's some good viewing for you. It
is seven away from nine.

Speaker 3 (01:24:27):
Trending Now as well your home of winter essentials.

Speaker 7 (01:24:32):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:24:32):
The radio awards last night, Big Night insid Meat, which
is the broad based company which runs a bunch of stuff,
including this radio station.

Speaker 3 (01:24:38):
One.

Speaker 2 (01:24:39):
Seven of the ten Premiere Awards and News Talks that
be won a host of those now.

Speaker 25 (01:24:45):
First award is for best News or Sports Journalists. Congratulations
to our winner, Aaron Darman. The winner are Best News
Readers Neva Rittimanu. We move on to Best Sports Reader,
Presenter or Commentator. The winner Weekend Sport with Jason Pine.
Our next award Best News or Sports Story, and this
is team coverage. The winner is News Talks. He'd be

(01:25:05):
for their coverage of cyclone. Gabriel Come on up.

Speaker 20 (01:25:10):
Hosts, the producers, the reporters and the management team. We'll
absolutely work our ass off when there's a breaking news event.

Speaker 25 (01:25:17):
Best Talk Presenter, Non Breakfast or drive Well Curveball joint
winners Teas Welcome both to the stage. Markets last night
Saturday Morning can hell. We're on to Best Show Producer
or Producing Team. The winner in this category the Mike
costing Breakfast.

Speaker 2 (01:25:34):
And that's where the green suit comes in. Best Show,
was it the show? Best show? What's the best show?

Speaker 25 (01:25:41):
Now to best Talk Presenter Breakfadrive. Congratulations to our winner,
the Mike hosting Breakfast, Mike asking always humble. Tell you
one thing about Mike. You might not always agree with
what he says. All right, our next award.

Speaker 2 (01:25:57):
That's quite clearly, that's good. That's Jeremy Corvet. If you
don't recognized the voice, and I come back to him
in just a couple of moments. I gave a very
gracious acceptance speech via video and wanted to think the
producers of the program, Now, Sammy is here tonight, and
what's exciting about Sammy. Sammy needs to stand up because
Sammy's wearing suit. And I think I can safely say,

(01:26:21):
even though I'm not there, he's the only person in
the room wearing a green suit tonight.

Speaker 3 (01:26:26):
They'd up Sammy exactly.

Speaker 2 (01:26:28):
Come on, Sammy, stand up, everybody.

Speaker 5 (01:26:30):
Sammy Karen with the green suit, everybody.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
We've got to have balls to wear a suit that
looks like that. See, I'm a team player. Corvit also
got involved after the producers win.

Speaker 25 (01:26:41):
Congratulations those producers, especially the dude in the green.

Speaker 2 (01:26:43):
Jacket exactly Mike Regal at Radio Wanaka. He won services
to broadcasting and he heard a story about me from
years ago, almost.

Speaker 10 (01:26:53):
Forty one years ago to the day at Radio I Tago.
I started on the same day, and by god, I
wish he was here tonight. A funny little fellow.

Speaker 2 (01:27:02):
He was eighteen.

Speaker 10 (01:27:03):
I was starting out. He was already a seasoned broadcaster.
He had a tweet jacket, a tweed waistcoat, he wore
a tie, smoked large cigars and drove.

Speaker 3 (01:27:11):
A classic jack.

Speaker 2 (01:27:13):
His name was Mike Hoskin. That's not true. It was
a damler. I had a word for the Minister for Media,
Paul Goldsmith. Thank god they got rid of Melissa Lee.
Paul Goldsmith, Minister of Broadcasting. Just remember of all the
people who were falling by the wayside at the moment
in the media, all the people who are having the trouble,

(01:27:35):
all the people who are looking for the handouts and
the free money that you don't have because the labor
government buggered the economy. Radio ain't one of them. Radio
is doing well, Radio's fantastic. All we need is a
hand up, not a handout. So Minister go Forth, solve
radio's problems and help us be brilliant. He seemed to
get him.

Speaker 26 (01:27:54):
Look, I just wanted to recognize that it's been a
tough year for many in the media. But as Mike
Costings pointed out, I couldn't quite work out what he
was trying to say. I think it was just leave
me alone, was the message from Mike.

Speaker 14 (01:28:08):
I mean that is usually your missing message.

Speaker 2 (01:28:10):
Very much true. And then of course we came to
the big one to our final award.

Speaker 25 (01:28:14):
Of the evening, the Biggie obviously Network Metropolitan Station of
the Year. Give it up for our winner, News Talks.

Speaker 3 (01:28:22):
It'd be there.

Speaker 2 (01:28:26):
You go, so a very good night and you listen
to the best in the business, and we're very proud
to present it to you, and I hope you continue
to enjoy it, and I hope you continue to enjoy
your coming weekend. And we'll reconvene Monday at six o'clock
as always, Happy Days.

Speaker 1 (01:28:42):
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