The Police Minister concedes the increase in crime isn't just down to more reporting of crime.
Reports of several categories of crime like serious assaults, acts intended to cause injury, robberies, burglaries and thefts have increased in the past five years.
On Sunday, Ginny Andersen says that was partly due to it becoming easier to report crime, such as through a new app.
But she told Mike Hosking she accepts incidents of crime are also increasing.
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