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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Talk about it, come back good Charlotte and gave it
away years ago, but a wedding in the family changed
it all, and now they're back together. We got a
new album, Motil, the Cap and the Here next year.
I'll give you those details in a moment, but in
the meantime, Benji and Joel Madden are with us. Good morning,
Good morning you, sir Joel. Let me see if I
got this right. Basically, so you're at a family wedding,
you're singing, You've been asked to do the after show thing.
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Everyone goes, oh my god, they're fantastic. You stand there,
or somebody stands and go, actually, we're not bad. How
about an album? Could we make an album mixing? You
make an album mixing, you're on a tour. Is that
basically how it's gone off?
Speaker 2 (00:32):
I got that right, Yeah, it's some version of that.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
You almost got it. We did kind of have a
great time as a band there was, which was probably
one of the key elements of it is, you know,
being in a band with these guys since high school
and then having this kind of thirty year later, twenty
some year later, at this wedding for my little sister.
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It's special, and we had a great time and we
were all kind of well, you know, you're drinking and
you're like, everything's great, and you say something like let's
make an album. And then on Monday or Tuesday morning
after that weekend, BENJ calls us on and goes, hey,
you guys, let's make this record we talked about and
we're all like okay, uh And so it stuck, which
was nice, and here we are.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
You know, so it did it? Did it did pan out?
Speaker 1 (01:21):
Do you think, Binji? I mean that was always going
to I mean it must be when you were in music,
rot it look you play? Can you look we're just
doing a wedding. We're just doing a little thing. Can
you you know? Can you sing us a song? Can
you perform off for the show? I mean you must
have had a bit of that over the ears.
Speaker 3 (01:36):
Yeah, I mean, well, the great thing was with this
wedding was that I mean, we've known her since she's
been on tour with us.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
We've noticed since she's like six years old. So it
was really special.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
And you know, and actually it was there was a
vibe there. It was so much love and I think
when you're gone through a whole career, sometimes you get
a little bit jaded and a little bit burnt out,
and when you have these like beautiful moments and you
just you know, those life moments where you feel grateful
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and you feel it's sweet, you know.
Speaker 4 (02:15):
So I think that vibe. I even think when you
listen to this album.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
It's kind of sweet, Like there's a nice vibe, you know,
It's it's kind of it's it's genuine, you know.
Speaker 1 (02:23):
Joel, was there any doubt you could do it once
you thought, yeah, let's give it a crack, any doubt
you could do it?
Speaker 2 (02:31):
A little bit of doubt?
Speaker 3 (02:32):
I don't know if it was that we could do it,
because I did think, like I think when we went
in and made the record, it was pretty it was
pretty secluded, like in the sense of like there was
no one there that didn't want to be there making
this thing, and we had no expectations, so we didn't
need to even release it.
Speaker 2 (02:49):
We were like, let's just make the record and then
we'll see.
Speaker 3 (02:51):
What we got and then we'll figure out what we
should do with it, if we should even put it
out or if we should, like we'll figure that part
out after we're done.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
Then we did the record, then we finished it, then
we put it out.
Speaker 3 (03:01):
I think my hesitation was, where does Good Charlotte fit
in twenty twenty five, twenty five years from our first record.
We're in our forties. We're not trying to be anything
we're not. We're not trying to be anyone else than
we who we are right now. I'm not trying to
be any other age. We're not trying to be any
other anything. And I think going on and putting a
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record out where you don't know how well you're going
to market this thing, because you don't even know what
the hell you think about putting a record out is
probably that My hesitation was more like where the hell
do we fit? And and I guess we'll find out
and we'll see. And so everything's kind of been like
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one step forward at a time and just do what
we feel, and like, let's see we don't we don't
have some master planned Yeah, I don't know where if
you even see the way we're planning our touring these days,
it's like we're gonna do the world as much as
we can.
Speaker 2 (04:02):
So let's put one tour together at a time that
we want to do.
Speaker 3 (04:05):
And so the first thought you know, first things first, Okay,
let's do Australia.
Speaker 2 (04:09):
In New Zealand.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Okay, got that now, next step we'll figure it out.
So it's it's been very much that it's been kind
of going forward and feeling our way through it and
doing more of just like what we feel and figure
out the commercial aspect of it later.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
I guess. So, yeah, one thing at a time, I guess.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
Right, Benji mean talk about the genesis of all this.
What's driving for you in the sense of people don't know.
Obviously you're very successful, but then you moved away from music,
you're in management these days, you've got your Veeps operation,
you're entrepreneurs, so you're doing your own things. So obviously
you don't need to do this. So I guess the
question is do you want it?
Speaker 2 (04:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:56):
I think it's really been That's a great question. That's
a great question. And you know, it's interesting because the
management company, which is taken on a life of its own,
and we're like the and then Beeps, which is taken
on a life of its own, we've been like extremely
I don't know, like we've just been blessed. You know,
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it's interesting because those were just to see if we
could do it. We're just to they were just to
see if we could make a difference with.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
The management company.
Speaker 3 (05:26):
We literally were like, if we can find one or
two artists and help them have a good experience and
build and buy houses and like build careers. When like that,
let's just see if we can help someone, right and
and so now it's like that wouldn't you know that philosophy?
Uh is like, uh, it's crazy that that's like a
(05:46):
new thing of like maybe we can just help protect
somebody and you know, get them fair deals.
Speaker 4 (05:53):
Wild. That's wild that that's like a crazy thing. Anyways.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
Uh, Beeps was literally just was was Uh, it was
just a challenge, you know. So those things brought us
back to the band with a lot of joy though,
because we've done a lot of.
Speaker 4 (06:11):
Healing through that stuff.
Speaker 3 (06:12):
Like when you work with the band and you give
them some advice where they avoid something you didn't, it makes.
Speaker 4 (06:19):
The whole thing worth it, Like you don't, you're not.
Speaker 3 (06:21):
That was a release of like whatever poison is in
there where you feel.
Speaker 4 (06:25):
Bad about it, it's gone.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Like when you tell some when you when you get
to work with these kids and you say, hey, man,
why don't we do it this way, like or when
you get to sell tell people to back off, and
we say, hey, you don't got to think about anything.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
Go in the studio and have fun and.
Speaker 3 (06:41):
Just just just do something that you think is cool.
Speaker 4 (06:45):
Don't worry about the business. We'll handle the business.
Speaker 3 (06:47):
And they go and they make a record they love
and you know, and there's different different experiences like that
that when you have them that little part of you
where it was a little scarred, where you had an
experience where you didn't have an adult around you that
wasn't making money off you, you know, because that's the
beautiful thing about us as managers. We don't need the money,
so we don't need to We don't need to We
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don't need to tell people to do things so that
we can get the commission, right, Like we get to
tell people, say you should, let's say no to that. Hey,
why don't we say no to that?
Speaker 4 (07:18):
You know?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
And and so it's really we've we've done a lot
of healing in the last ten years. So getting to
come back to make this album, I don't know for
me anyways, obviously I'm going to feel this way.
Speaker 4 (07:32):
But when I listen to this album. I hear a.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
Lot of joy I hear a lot of real I
hear I definitely like for me, the thing I love
the most about it, we could never have done this
album until right now, is that we're comfortable in our
own skin. We made this album for us, literally, that
was what we said when we made the album, was like,
hey man, we can always delete it, it doesn't matter.
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Let's you know, so, let's just have fun. Let's just
see what comes out. Let's just enjoy the process of
making it. And you know what, that's the record I
wanted to make. I wanted to make the forty six
year old me record and talk about the shit that
I want to talk about now and be in the
place where I'm at now and be as happy as
I am, or ask the questions that I that I
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still have, and so to me, regardless of whatever journey
this record takes on its life and whoever we get
to share it with, and for people that understand it,
the people that get it, that's you know, beautiful. But
for me, it was mission accomplished to just make a
record with Joel right now. As you know, forty six
(08:44):
year old dudes who are married with kids and just
wanting to just be where we're at now, not wanting
to be kids again, not wanting to be anywhere other
than right we're at. And so to me, that's what
the whole thing was about.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
What about you, Joel, do you want do you feel
the same way? And too? What's been the magic of
you got in that sense? I mean, any number of
bands creatively over the years have fallen apart due to clashes.
It's almost inevitable, and you guys seem to have made
it through and happily.
Speaker 3 (09:09):
So yeah, I think we're very lucky in that way
that we figured out as you know, as brothers. I think, well,
we started off together and we had to survive together
in a lot of ways, and and you know, part
of the process of healing was going back and and
and healing some of the childhood trauma and stuff like
that that no one wants to talk about and now
that do we. But we had to go back and
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kind of work and fix it and face it.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
And we did that together.
Speaker 3 (09:33):
And I think we were lucky enough to have each
other in this life and then in this band. You know,
in our twenties, we we we could barely communicate. We
fought a lot, but we made music together, and I
think and I think that was our.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
Way of communicating and bonding.
Speaker 3 (09:49):
And then in our thirties we started to learn how
to talk and we started building real lives where I
think we were learning how to be adults and and
and and and get past the music, because I think
one you chase the music and all the things that
come with it to try and be good enough, and
then you realize that that's not actually what makes you
a decent person. And that was the journey we went
(10:11):
on to get all the way back full circle to
this simple idea of like, oh, yeah, let's make a
record and let's have and you know, what's the record
sound like now at forty.
Speaker 2 (10:22):
Six, I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:22):
Let's find out. The next step is releasing it. Okay,
was it good enough? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (10:27):
I like it.
Speaker 3 (10:27):
Let's put it out, okay. Next to release it, okay,
let's do some shows. It's pretty simple. And I don't
know if that's a good answer for you, but like,
that's kind of how I feel these days. Is it's
not that complicated, it's not that deep, but some of
the songs could be. I mean, we went in the
record and we were honest, and we put some heart
into There's a couple of songs on there that are
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about us heartfelt as we've ever been, about as honest
as we've ever been. But the process was simple and
everything after that. Now these days is like, Okay, let's
deliver the biggest and best show we can. It's not
that complicated. We're gonna do anything we can to make it,
and we're.
Speaker 2 (11:06):
Actually doing it. I mean we won't.
Speaker 3 (11:07):
We're not playing that many shows these days, but we've
played like fifteen shows this year, probably been the biggest
and best fifteen shows we've ever done.
Speaker 2 (11:15):
And some of these shows for sure, and.
Speaker 3 (11:20):
I think, yeah, it's just been a process of being
present right here where.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
We're at in this moment.
Speaker 4 (11:27):
But we're not in confident ourselves. We're not in conflict
with us.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
We're not in conflict, but we're But also the bar
has been really raised by all these bands around us.
We have these incredible bands around us, whether it's Chase
Atlantic or bad Omens or Architects or I Dress Who,
There's tons of bands around us that have raised the
bar of what we've seen, what's what you should do
when you play live, or what you could do.
Speaker 2 (11:53):
Uh.
Speaker 3 (11:53):
So I think that we've been enriched by while we
set out to do something that was a simple idea
for us, let's be the guys we wish we'd met.
Speaker 2 (12:01):
That was the simple idea.
Speaker 3 (12:03):
Then we end up meeting all these incredible artists and
they made it a really rich experience to think about, Okay,
what do you want to do for a live show,
or how do you want to make this record?
Speaker 2 (12:13):
So I think we're living in our own kind of
world now of shit that we just have been lucky to. Yeah,
there you go.
Speaker 1 (12:23):
I want a great answer. It was a good aunt.
So listen to you guys. We look forward to seeing
you in the country next year. It'll be the middle
of summer. So it's all good, wonderful to catch up
and talk to you. Good luck with the album, good
luck with the tour. Maybe we talk when you hear.
Speaker 2 (12:35):
Thanks Mike, we appreciate it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
There we go, Joe Medden, Benji Madden. For more from
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