Ian Jones: Former All Black dissects the side's 18-12 defeat to the Springboks in Cape Town

Tough times have got even tougher for the All Blacks after Sunday’s 18-12 loss to the Springboks. 

It's officially back-to-back losses to the Boks in the Rugby Championship, and also four South African defeats on the trot.  

But the All Blacks can be hopeful of better times ahead – with the Wallabies up next, fresh off a 67-27 thrashing by Argentina.  

Former All Black lock Ian Jones joined Mike Hosking to dissect the defeat. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
The All Blacks heading home of course, having lost both.
Upside is they will be taking on Australia next to
a turning out to be even more useless than previously
thought or seen. Ian Jones is back with us on
All of the Sea and morning to you.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
Yeah, good morning, Mike, and to your listeners.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
The quality of the game itself. What's your assessment.

Speaker 2 (00:17):
Off fast intensity watching as a spectator? You're absolutely why
I do anyway, Mike, pu get exhausted because you're so
in the moment, and so you know, we've got a
bit frantic towards the end, which kind of going, please
is calm if down people out there, and we needed
those clear heads, especially from Body, especially from TJ. Will.

(00:38):
It actually looked like a little bit we're's at last
ten minutes Mike and.

Speaker 1 (00:44):
People if you reckon. Body was on the bench for
too long and his head exploded a bit and he
needed to get all that energy out all in one
crazy sort of movement.

Speaker 2 (00:52):
I kind of think, not just executive Body, but you
know Darry as well. These big impact players very hard
in a frantic situation, regardless of where you are. Mike
Buttce to come on in those last ten minutes make
a difference. You need a little bit of time. Been
studying the game for sixty you know what subtle changes

(01:14):
can make. But we didn't make those when that was
an impact from the coaching staff of the week before,
when those people came on and we gave away a
few penalties, et cetera, et cetera, didn't have conference. But
at the moment, I mean, the Surbrogance are ruthless. They
are physically strong, they dominate you, they're weie you down.
I guess they've got to measure at the moment and

(01:34):
they just hold intensitive for longer periods than we are.
When we were at our peak now a few years ago,
we could do that to opposition. At the moment, we're
just not there.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
And I think that's a very good point. And I
think we've got to give credit to the South Africans.
This wasn't one of those games where every now and again,
at the right time, the right place, at altitude, whatever
they happen to win. They are consistent winners. They're World
Cup champions for a reason. They are the best side
in the world and they need to be gratulated for that, don't.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
They absolutely Mike can remember also playing away from home
in front of their fanatical fans. It is an absolutely
tense quadron. We want to win those matches. We went
good enough for the last two and my god, we've
given away the freedom cap. We've had that for a
long long time. And you're right and you're intro. We
have to hold on to that. There's a cup and

(02:21):
we have to get some momentum before we go to
Europe at the end of the year. But man, what
games of football. I mean, I'm biased, Mike. When rugby's
played at that level, it's the greatest game in the world.

Speaker 1 (02:34):
Yeah, it's very high quality. I'll give you that one.
Although I could talk to you about Damien Christy, Chanelle,
Harris Devita came to mind all of a sudden, I
thought's happened to people trying to kick the ball between
the sticks. Ian Jones with.

Speaker 2 (02:44):
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