Looks like the decision to go full steam ahead and focus on music has been the right one for Joel Shadbolt and L.A.B.
In the time since he stepped back from teaching, the band’s won awards, released new albums, and has just released their summer schedule that will see them tour both New Zealand and Australia.
They’ll be performing alongside Stan Walker and Corrella for three shows in Auckland, Tauranga, and the Gold Coast.
Shadbolt told Mike Hosking they’ve toured with Walker a few times now, and he’s a great addition to their summer line up.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Life seems good for Joel Shadbolt at the moment of lab.
Of course, when he was here three years ago, he
was a music teacher, but he's since handed in the
old notice apparently to go full time on stage. In
the ensuing period there have been awards and new albums,
a new summer schedule that will see them play here
and indeed on the Gold Coast, and Joel Shadbolt is
back with us. A very good morning to you. Good morning,
(00:22):
I'm very well, indeed, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We had Ed Sheeran on the program last week. One
of the things he's done, the only reason I raised
this is one of the things he's done is he's
given a lot of money, apparently to his old school
for music programs and you know, music teaching and stuff
like that. Do you what's been your experience in teaching
music as opposed to a kid just being a gifted
kid who might well rise to the top at some
later stage, you know, for a love of music. How
(00:46):
does that work? Does teaching work and lead somewhere?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, for sure. I actually I've kind of delved back
into a bit of teaching this year, which has been nice,
and I gave a guitar to to my old high school.
A couple of years back, we were lucky enough to
get gifted some guitars in Australia. I thought, well, I
don't need this guitar, I'll give it to my high school.
So I did that. But yeah, I look, teaching is
(01:12):
one of those things that I think I'll always do
and always have a love and passion for because you know,
that's how I learned how to play. I had people,
you know, take me under their wing and show me
the ropes. So I always want to be able to
do that give back.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And do you do it privately in terms of you know,
like music lessons or do you do it through a school? Well,
have you done it through school?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
No? I just just yet, just through high schools a
couple of high schools around the local bas Any region.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And do you do what just guitars or music generally?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, guitars and they're like guitar suition and then kind
of band coaching and songwriting workshops and stuff like that.
The other thing I have was the Music Commission, which
is which that takes me around the whole country, which
is super fun, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
How much of people like what you do is driven
by that subconscious idea that you're helping somebody to go
on to something better as opposed to you making a living.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I would say it's more that, like, yeah, I
can make a living out of playing music for sure,
but it's it's it's not what I yeah, I mean,
I want to make music that I want to make
and I don't want to just play music for the
sake of making money. It's it's you know that there's
much more fulfillment and the and the teaching in regards
to like, you know, going and playing at the local
(02:29):
casino kind of thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I mentioned so the tours
coming up the summer, Fugels doing it, but it also
involves Stan Walker. How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, Look stands with two of us stand quite a
few times now. He's he's been a great addition to
the kind of the lineup that we've We've had on
a summer run and then we played with the last
summer and it went really really well. We also had
Corolla and so a bunch. We're actually quite local to
plenty like most of the bands, which is quite special.
Men stand with went to school together, so so it's
(03:02):
sort of happened on the line.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Does there have to be I mean, the advantage, but
you know there's a vibe, don't you having tour before
you know this, the vibe you get on together. There's
no angst on the road, so that helps.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, for sure. You know, I was still going to
stand about this last week when you said, you know,
like at the start of the tour, it was like, oh,
you know, we're all a bit nervous, and then by
the end the tour, all the bands are getting on
and there's nothing beautiful to see that camaraderie on the road,
you know, with the crew of people, you're butting each other,
putting out of each other's pockets, you know, yeah, for
two or three weeks at the time, so it's really special.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You went to the States. How did that go? And
how do you crack a market that size? And is
the audience made up of largely expats or do you
get into actual Americans?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah? I think with the States, we're lucky to kind
of crack into a bit of a market there. There's
a there's a particularly California and Hawaii, so that that
kind of side of the States. There's a massive reggae
contingency over there. You know. We played with a band
called the my Onli and Jay Book, and they're both
(04:06):
quite established artists on that side of the world. So
it's really nice to be able to kind of piggyback
on the back of their audience and and here and
we I think we want over So it's it's a
little bit of you know, it's going to take time
for sure. We've got to get back you know, this
year and hopefully next and just keep working on it.
You know, it's not gonna it's not gonna happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And m So how do you who who's the brains
behind all of that? You know, when you talk about
going back in a plan and a bigger picture, who
works all that out.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, it's a combination of the band and then our
management and label, which is Loop and we kind of
we've decided to focus on the States rather than Europe
and stuff like that. So it's yeah, it's just a
bit of a long game. But with the States, I
really hope it works for LAV because I think I
(04:56):
think we do have something to give to the to
the audience over there and we'll hope you. I said,
open to get back next year and with the help
of our label and agents over there and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Good stuff. I read something interesting about you the other day, Joel.
As a touring vocalist performing shows back to back, you
become hyper aware of how your body feels. Sleep, hydration, nutrition,
and movement. Are your four pillars? Has that always been
you or is that a music slash touring related thing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's one of those things that I've had to
have a trial and error for sure, and lucky enough
to have a great vocal coach who's helped me with
a lot of that stuff. Then I guess it's no
different to you know, a team going to the Olympics
and having to play a game after game after games,
so your body just it's not that you can't do it,
(05:46):
but you need your body to bounce back as fast
as possible. And the fitter you are, the health you are,
the easier it is.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So have you always known that or is that something
you've learned along the way. And if you have learned
it along the way, what sort of difference does it made.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh, it's massive, you know, Like I think, as a
vocalist it's you do become hyper aware because of I
mean those high notes that you've got to hurt every night.
You know, you just know what your your voice feels like,
and you know what you need to deliver the job.
And I guess you don't know until you get really
healthy and start to feel those things. But you know that.
(06:21):
I mean, my first time catch a fire with Led
you opening for him in Australia with the twenty two
gigs in two days, and it was just baptism by fire.
It's just absolutely ridiculous. The amount of load on the
body in your mind, you know, and you obviously feel
you never feel settled on the road or grounded. You constantly,
you know, and fight a flight, I guess to a point.
(06:43):
So it's just learning ways to kind of keep yourself
centered and deliver the job.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Is that do you know common among museos these days?
Because it's funnily enough watching a video the other day
of Rod Stewart when he was with the Faces. They
used to just drink and shag and smoke and drug
and throw TVs out the window and that was that.
That was rock and roll, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It for sure? Yeah? I mean, well, Joe Walsh as well. Right, Yeah,
but yeah, I look it's I think these days that's
on the level of like you know, Edge Shearing and
all those kind of guys. You know, they talk about
it as well, and it's kind of the season thing.
I guess you kind of you get ready for the
season and yeah, it's yeah, it's one of those things
(07:26):
that I think it's different these days for sure, that
we're the ones that you know, you just can't last
if you if you're playing show after show, you might
be able to do it for two weeks and then
your body just turns and ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Somebody told me you run up Mount Monganui, do you.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I wouldn't say, rhyme, I say trot up there?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Doesn't doesn't because my wife's trained or a woman she's
involved with Loretta. I don't know if you know Loretta,
but she runs up Mount Monganui every single day.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, I think I did know Loreta. Yeah, this is
problem mount. Yeah. Ok, it's such a great when you
go down there, there's people just absolutely honing up there.
So you can't help with the inspired.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Exactly. Good the Harley, you still got it?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, I sold the Harley? Yeah, yeah, I know I know,
I know. I look, I'll get another one one day,
don't worry. I'm saving up for a sawning. Now. I
sold to Harley and I wanted to. I gave some
money to Mike from Goblet Friday and next so that
was kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'll definitely
(08:33):
get one again, for sure, because.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Once you've had one, you always want one. But what
a wonderful thing to do to night. And you've had
all the music awards of late as well. So so overall, Joel,
things seem to be going well.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, things are going all good man. It's life's a ride,
you don't I'm really enjoying the music. Of course, it
keeps me. It's one of the only things that you know,
doesn't answer BacT to me. I can. I can go
to the music and left.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So there you go. Good to catch up with you,
mat go well and good luck with the Gold Coast
and stand and.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Joel Shadbolt of Lab Now there's an inside, hasn't it.
Sold the Harley and gave some money to Mike King.
That's a nice person. As for Lauretta up the hill,
everybody knows everybody at the Mount for more from The
Mic Asking Breakfast. Listen live to news Talks at B
from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
Life seems good for Joel Shadbolt at the moment of lab.
Of course, when he was here three years ago, he
was a music teacher, but he's since handed in the
old notice apparently to go full time on stage. In
the ensuing period there have been awards and new albums,
a new summer schedule that will see them play here
and indeed on the Gold Coast, and Joel Shadbolt is
back with us. A very good morning to you. Good morning,
(00:22):
I'm very well, indeed, thank you.
Speaker 2 (00:23):
Hey.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
We had Ed Sheeran on the program last week. One
of the things he's done, the only reason I raised
this is one of the things he's done is he's
given a lot of money, apparently to his old school
for music programs and you know, music teaching and stuff
like that. Do you what's been your experience in teaching
music as opposed to a kid just being a gifted
kid who might well rise to the top at some
later stage, you know, for a love of music. How
(00:46):
does that work? Does teaching work and lead somewhere?
Speaker 2 (00:51):
Yeah, for sure. I actually I've kind of delved back
into a bit of teaching this year, which has been nice,
and I gave a guitar to to my old high school.
A couple of years back, we were lucky enough to
get gifted some guitars in Australia. I thought, well, I
don't need this guitar, I'll give it to my high school.
So I did that. But yeah, I look, teaching is
(01:12):
one of those things that I think I'll always do
and always have a love and passion for because you know,
that's how I learned how to play. I had people,
you know, take me under their wing and show me
the ropes. So I always want to be able to
do that give back.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
And do you do it privately in terms of you know,
like music lessons or do you do it through a school? Well,
have you done it through school?
Speaker 2 (01:32):
No? I just just yet, just through high schools a
couple of high schools around the local bas Any region.
Speaker 1 (01:38):
And do you do what just guitars or music generally?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
Yeah, guitars and they're like guitar suition and then kind
of band coaching and songwriting workshops and stuff like that.
The other thing I have was the Music Commission, which
is which that takes me around the whole country, which
is super fun, fantastic.
Speaker 1 (01:55):
How much of people like what you do is driven
by that subconscious idea that you're helping somebody to go
on to something better as opposed to you making a living.
Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, I would say it's more that, like, yeah, I
can make a living out of playing music for sure,
but it's it's it's not what I yeah, I mean,
I want to make music that I want to make
and I don't want to just play music for the
sake of making money. It's it's you know that there's
much more fulfillment and the and the teaching in regards
to like, you know, going and playing at the local
(02:29):
casino kind of thing, you know what I mean?
Speaker 1 (02:31):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. So I mentioned so the tours
coming up the summer, Fugels doing it, but it also
involves Stan Walker. How did that come about?
Speaker 2 (02:40):
Yeah, Look stands with two of us stand quite a
few times now. He's he's been a great addition to
the kind of the lineup that we've We've had on
a summer run and then we played with the last
summer and it went really really well. We also had
Corolla and so a bunch. We're actually quite local to
plenty like most of the bands, which is quite special.
Men stand with went to school together, so so it's
(03:02):
sort of happened on the line.
Speaker 1 (03:05):
Does there have to be I mean, the advantage, but
you know there's a vibe, don't you having tour before
you know this, the vibe you get on together. There's
no angst on the road, so that helps.
Speaker 2 (03:13):
Yeah, for sure. You know, I was still going to
stand about this last week when you said, you know,
like at the start of the tour, it was like, oh,
you know, we're all a bit nervous, and then by
the end the tour, all the bands are getting on
and there's nothing beautiful to see that camaraderie on the road,
you know, with the crew of people, you're butting each other,
putting out of each other's pockets, you know, yeah, for
two or three weeks at the time, so it's really special.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
You went to the States. How did that go? And
how do you crack a market that size? And is
the audience made up of largely expats or do you
get into actual Americans?
Speaker 2 (03:45):
Yeah? I think with the States, we're lucky to kind
of crack into a bit of a market there. There's
a there's a particularly California and Hawaii, so that that
kind of side of the States. There's a massive reggae
contingency over there. You know. We played with a band
called the my Onli and Jay Book, and they're both
(04:06):
quite established artists on that side of the world. So
it's really nice to be able to kind of piggyback
on the back of their audience and and here and
we I think we want over So it's it's a
little bit of you know, it's going to take time
for sure. We've got to get back you know, this
year and hopefully next and just keep working on it.
You know, it's not gonna it's not gonna happen overnight.
Speaker 1 (04:25):
And m So how do you who who's the brains
behind all of that? You know, when you talk about
going back in a plan and a bigger picture, who
works all that out.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Yeah, it's a combination of the band and then our
management and label, which is Loop and we kind of
we've decided to focus on the States rather than Europe
and stuff like that. So it's yeah, it's just a
bit of a long game. But with the States, I
really hope it works for LAV because I think I
(04:56):
think we do have something to give to the to
the audience over there and we'll hope you. I said,
open to get back next year and with the help
of our label and agents over there and stuff like that.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Good stuff. I read something interesting about you the other day, Joel.
As a touring vocalist performing shows back to back, you
become hyper aware of how your body feels. Sleep, hydration, nutrition,
and movement. Are your four pillars? Has that always been
you or is that a music slash touring related thing.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
Yeah, it's one of those things that I've had to
have a trial and error for sure, and lucky enough
to have a great vocal coach who's helped me with
a lot of that stuff. Then I guess it's no
different to you know, a team going to the Olympics
and having to play a game after game after games,
so your body just it's not that you can't do it,
(05:46):
but you need your body to bounce back as fast
as possible. And the fitter you are, the health you are,
the easier it is.
Speaker 1 (05:51):
So have you always known that or is that something
you've learned along the way. And if you have learned
it along the way, what sort of difference does it made.
Speaker 2 (06:00):
Oh, it's massive, you know, Like I think, as a
vocalist it's you do become hyper aware because of I
mean those high notes that you've got to hurt every night.
You know, you just know what your your voice feels like,
and you know what you need to deliver the job.
And I guess you don't know until you get really
healthy and start to feel those things. But you know that.
(06:21):
I mean, my first time catch a fire with Led
you opening for him in Australia with the twenty two
gigs in two days, and it was just baptism by fire.
It's just absolutely ridiculous. The amount of load on the
body in your mind, you know, and you obviously feel
you never feel settled on the road or grounded. You constantly,
you know, and fight a flight, I guess to a point.
(06:43):
So it's just learning ways to kind of keep yourself
centered and deliver the job.
Speaker 1 (06:49):
Is that do you know common among museos these days?
Because it's funnily enough watching a video the other day
of Rod Stewart when he was with the Faces. They
used to just drink and shag and smoke and drug
and throw TVs out the window and that was that.
That was rock and roll, wasn't.
Speaker 2 (07:03):
It for sure? Yeah? I mean, well, Joe Walsh as well. Right, Yeah,
but yeah, I look it's I think these days that's
on the level of like you know, Edge Shearing and
all those kind of guys. You know, they talk about
it as well, and it's kind of the season thing.
I guess you kind of you get ready for the
season and yeah, it's yeah, it's one of those things
(07:26):
that I think it's different these days for sure, that
we're the ones that you know, you just can't last
if you if you're playing show after show, you might
be able to do it for two weeks and then
your body just turns and ship. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:38):
Somebody told me you run up Mount Monganui, do you.
Speaker 2 (07:42):
I wouldn't say, rhyme, I say trot up there?
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Doesn't doesn't because my wife's trained or a woman she's
involved with Loretta. I don't know if you know Loretta,
but she runs up Mount Monganui every single day.
Speaker 2 (07:55):
Yeah, I think I did know Loreta. Yeah, this is
problem mount. Yeah. Ok, it's such a great when you
go down there, there's people just absolutely honing up there.
So you can't help with the inspired.
Speaker 1 (08:07):
Exactly. Good the Harley, you still got it?
Speaker 2 (08:11):
No, I sold the Harley? Yeah, yeah, I know I know,
I know. I look, I'll get another one one day,
don't worry. I'm saving up for a sawning. Now. I
sold to Harley and I wanted to. I gave some
money to Mike from Goblet Friday and next so that
was kind of cool. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, I'll definitely
(08:33):
get one again, for sure, because.
Speaker 1 (08:34):
Once you've had one, you always want one. But what
a wonderful thing to do to night. And you've had
all the music awards of late as well. So so overall, Joel,
things seem to be going well.
Speaker 2 (08:45):
Yeah, things are going all good man. It's life's a ride,
you don't I'm really enjoying the music. Of course, it
keeps me. It's one of the only things that you know,
doesn't answer BacT to me. I can. I can go
to the music and left.
Speaker 1 (08:59):
So there you go. Good to catch up with you,
mat go well and good luck with the Gold Coast
and stand and.
Speaker 2 (09:04):
All of that.
Speaker 1 (09:04):
Joel Shadbolt of Lab Now there's an inside, hasn't it.
Sold the Harley and gave some money to Mike King.
That's a nice person. As for Lauretta up the hill,
everybody knows everybody at the Mount for more from The
Mic Asking Breakfast. Listen live to news Talks at B
from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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