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August 17, 2025 3 mins

The All Blacks have defeated Argentina in the Rugby Championship. 

They dispatched a 24-41 victory over Los Pumas, who hosted the All Blacks at Estadio Mario Alberto Kempes in Córdoba. 

Former All Blacks coach John Hart told Mike Hosking that the dominant display still needs improving, citing a lack of discipline.  

‘You wouldn’t want to be doing that against South Africa’ he said in regard to the All-Black’s big matchup in three weeks. 

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
The Rugby Championship perhaps turned out to be a bit

(00:02):
of a talking point more than we might have imagined.
The All Blacks won easily, of course, but the Australians.
How about the Australians. John Hart's with us, John, very
good morning to.

Speaker 2 (00:10):
You morning, Mike.

Speaker 1 (00:11):
Now, as far as the All Blacks were concerned, just
as like I watch as a patriot, I'm not an
expert like you. I saw it side that was winning,
was always going to win in the end, won by
quite a lot, am I. That's good enough, isn't it.

Speaker 2 (00:23):
Yeah? I look, they'd look back in the game and say,
look things, they're things that they can improve on. But
overall a good win. But second half had its concerns,
lack of discipline had its concerns. You wouldn't want to
be doing that against South Africa. So some learnings, but
you know, a good step forward and now they've got
another game next weekend exactly.

Speaker 1 (00:42):
Any reason to believe it won't be roughly the same
next weekend?

Speaker 2 (00:46):
Well, I think if I was Scott Robertson, I'd be
looking three weeks ahead to the Test against South Africa.
So I think this weekend is an opportunity for him
to put his team out that is as close injuries aside,
as close as possible to the test that he wants
to play against South Africa Eden Park and so I
think you will see players like Tammedy Williams and wall

(01:06):
was the TD come back in either on the bench
or in the team. But you know, not many changes otherwise.
I think he's getting pretty close and settled to where
he wants to be.

Speaker 1 (01:15):
And as regards the Australians, where do you reckon? Joe
Schmidt puts that on a CB.

Speaker 2 (01:21):
Well, I did you know. We exchange a lot of
texts and I did say that would have to rank
pretty highly. And I think, you know, it's a wonderful performance.
I mean, Joe Smith is world class coach. But to
do what he's done with Australia to turn them around
from where they were last year to what they did
against the lines and that victory, that's one for the

(01:42):
that's one for the record book. That was fantastic.

Speaker 1 (01:44):
What did it tell us is Australia betan we all
fought or did South Africa have a bad day?

Speaker 2 (01:49):
A combination? Mike, I think Australia are on the improve.
I think he hasn't got debts, he hasn't got a
lot of bench talent or beyond that. But a starting
team now is very very competitive, So I think that.
But I think South Africa took them easy. I think
South Africa thought they were going to win and twenty
two nil up you probably thought you you're away laughing,

(02:10):
and they lacked the discipline that they normally have. Next
week very different, i'd say, a very different performance from
South Africa and that will be a real test producement.

Speaker 1 (02:21):
So the All Blacks were away to South Africa. Thing
is the away things still laugh thing as big as
it ever was or not.

Speaker 2 (02:29):
Yeah, Look it's it's not easy to win away and
I think you know that's that's I mean, ninety sixty
three I think they're saying was the last time that
Australia won in Johannesburg. It's not easy to win away
and even in you know, don't underestimate how difficult it
as an Argentina. So next week go INA's area is
another big game. But you know, I think the All

(02:51):
Blacks are tracking really well and you know, I think
the big test of the year is at Edon Park
in three weeks time.

Speaker 1 (02:58):
Super exciting. Good on your John. Nice to catch John Hart,
former Allbacks coach, of course.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
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