October 16, 2025 • 11 mins
At the end of each week, Mike Hosking takes you through the big-ticket items and lets you know what he makes of it all.
Matt Payne: 9/10
Highlight of the week. Didn’t just win but won one of the best. Dreams coming true at 280km/h doesn’t get any better than that.
The ceasefire: 8/10
The rest is yet to unfold but Tuesday was a win for a lot of people.
Gail Parata: 8/10
My hero of the week. Standing on principal and speaking out is increasingly rare these days. Good on her.
The BSA: 2/10
Interventionist, sticky beak, trying it on, full of their own self importance - pick a term. The cold, hard truth is very few in broadcasting give a monkeys, given their irrelevancy.
Brian Tamaki: 8/10
Got turned down on closing the Auckland Harbour Bridge. Good. The bridge is for transport, not politics.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Is Khaleide your mate? Tim?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I might have been of Youdom oncewed to the concert
when it was spark Arena.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Pretty good, so interesting. I remember you telling me the
story about you interviewing Khaleid and how much you loved him,
And yet here's such a short time, lady, you can't
even barely remember the guy.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Here's the deal. Our first kid took away ninety percent
of my memory. The second one took away ninety percent
of the ten percent that's left. What's your name.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Again, exactly, Cadie? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm excellent, Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And I just I would have asked Brendan McCullum about
that on it, because he might have actually forgot I
had forgotten about that, and he may also have forgotten
about that.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's like khale Until he raised it, I was like, oh,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I remember Garth Tellois. I hope Garth is prot Goth
a problem with me telling him stories about Garth galloways,
Garth the lawyer is probably going to ssume me. But
I remember Garth telling me he goes his words were,
and I was really heartbroken by it, and he said,
you realize heartbroken? Well, no, it was because do you know,
you know context, no.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Exactly exact because here's the thing case I thought we
were going to get, you know, when it's like Brendan
McCullum wouldn't speak to me. I thought we were going
to get a plumbing of the depths of Mike's heart.
But it just turned out to be another I was right.
Are you familiar with those?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It was going? I knew that's this is going to end,
and I was right.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But what I think I was right was he started
it with one of my life's great sadnesses, and I thought, well,
if that is an over egging something, I'm not sure
what it's a great life sadness that Brendan mcullum wouldn't
talk to you this it's no.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So think about it from my point of view, from
a professional point of view, right, there are certain people
in the world that you enjoy talking to, or you
want to talk to, or you'd like to think that
would talk to you, or you know what I'm saying.
So from from a job's point of view, and so
there are a lot of people who could go, look,
I'm never talking to you again. I can give a
monkeys not completely celebrate the fact, they'll never have them
on the program again. But he was like, he's a
(02:05):
bright guy, and he's insightful, and he's successful, and you
think I'd like to have a relationship with him, you know,
so that because there will be a point down the
track where he does something substantive, and wouldn't it be
good to be able to touch base with him? And
that was curtailed, and so especially when the British thing
came along, I thought I'd love to be able to
(02:26):
talk to him about that. But you know, Garth said,
you realize he's never going to talk to you again,
and I thought, so, anyway, it seems to have come right.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He's moved on. You've moved on. We all forgot about
it until you remembered it.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Did Sam give you any insights when you turn up
at three o'clock and said, wait, what's he doing on
the show?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What I found out?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, that's funny. You should say that, because Jason the
boss was and he reads the setup the night before
and he go, he was surprised. You just told her
he was surprised that he was on. Sam was away
yesterday and didn't have any inkling of what was going on.
The show. And so I said to Sam this morning,
I said, what's the story of the McAll? And men,
he guys wouldn't have the slightest idea. I've been away.
You know how people go away for a day, they
take a day off, and they come back and pretend
(03:05):
that nothing's happened.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And there's a lot of that. He was getting the
dog's fade eight and a half hours in the car.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Let me tell you about the story about the spain. Sok, Sammy,
Now this is what is Katie? What is Sammy? Sammy's
a millennial? Is he a gen Z? To Jennel for
what is he?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think he's a millennial?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, okay, so that's the problem with millennials.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, it'd be at the top, it'd be at the
bottom end of millennial almost gen z, I think so.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And this is the problem with these people. So he
count afford a dining table. He can't afford a dining table,
but he can afford nineteen thousand dollars for a cockadoodle doo.
And so he goes and buys a pure bread dog.
And so part of the deal was he has to
take the dog back to the special vet that they
had requested, which happens to be in another town hours away.
(03:54):
And I said to Sammy, I said, you do realize
this is the Ponzi scheme, don't you that the breeder
flicks the money off to the bit and the whole
thing's dodged. Yes, because the dog's getting spait. It's not
brain it's not it's not brain surgery. He's not having
a heart transplant. He's just getting spade. So he sets
off at four thirty yesterday morning, and then this and
GTR and all the way, hours and hours and hours
(04:15):
in the traffic, and then of course you dropped the
dog off and the dog's going to have a several
hour operation, then several hours of recovery. So Sam's just
wandering around the mountains and the cafes and the beaches
were just filling in time. And then he's got to
pick the dog up and then he's going to take
it all the way back to walking. So he was
on the road yesterday sixteen hours. It was a sixteen
hour day in the GDR along with the operation just
for this dunk dog and the Ponzi skim you bought Hm.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Could couldn't he have done? Couldn't he have done. I mean,
what seems a bit slack here, Mike. I mean, if
he's why is he wandering around the mountains and drinking coffee?
Could have done a bit of set up for you.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Couldn't have couldn't agree that there was phone coverage. He
could have set Brendan McCallum up exactly. But anyway, we
had exactly, we had the villains, we had the fillin's doing.
And what a great job the fillains did. They got me,
Brendan McCallum, the greatest interview that I hadn't done. I forget,
forget about peace between Israel and Gaza.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Leenda McCallum, my asking.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Say no more? Sixteen hours and a GTR Mike, how
can you afford the fuel cheaper to buy a dining table?
That's what I keep telling him. For goodness sake, Sam,
is there a warranty on the dog or something? Just
go to an event?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
What to keep telling it?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Young ones won't listen allway, Guys, I've.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Got a You might have Brendan McCullum ons side, but
you don't have me. Because this week I might need
to hire your Garth Galloway.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I might need to hire a lawyer because I notice,
actually I didn't notice because I was on court at
the time, but the boss.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
In court on court rackets, and the boss sent me
a link to an interview you did with the head
of the BSA where you threw me right under the
bus and said, you're taking up a shoe with Sean
Plunketts whatever platform.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
What if I want to take issue and go to
court over my wife's Instagram And she said, well, that's interesting,
And you said, what if she's out in the field
saying what Sean's saying, which car suspersions that I would
ever do such a thing.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And she goes, well, that's interesting, that's something we would have.
Why would you flag.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
My Instagram mediation required here to what I'm saying. What
I'm saying, Tim, and I think you'll agree with me
on this is I wasn't suggesting Katie would go down
the sewn Plunket track, because who does? And look where
it's got them. What I was suggesting is Katie's big
on Instagram. She's got a very large Instagram following. And
therefore is that is she do? And is that a
radio show or the equivalent of a radio show? And
(06:32):
is a sort of thing they would look at as
a radio program and therefore potentially ping Hercules.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Says she was about whether the BSA has jurisdiction over
the Internet or just telliccommunications based communications, and that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And Glenn, I think yes, Glenn makes a very good
point if they did look at Katie's Instagram as a
radio program a lot. There are two things on Katie's
Instagram that would be problematic for the BSA. One of
the nudes of me, and the other one is the Warriors.
It is the Warriors video of me swearing and swearing
and so well, it's well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's also the drinking. It's the drinking, drinking and swearing
blind a lot better and the lunity.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, a lot there that it would be upheld.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
But I think the best part of that interview actually
was when she said she knows how intimidating it is
for people to receive a letter from the BSA and
you burst out laughing brightly.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So at that point she.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Got carried away with how important they think they might.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Be and they're not.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Do you know.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We sat down, we're in the in the news break,
and we would talk. I asked, I said, when was
the last time this company had one of those decisions
in the BSA that actually counted for something, you know,
In other words, somebody here did something egregious and they
had to come back with a fine or so. And
when there was silence in the room, we couldn't think
of one. They suggested that there was a year ago
one of the stations down the stairs did something stupid
(07:52):
and that was it. So I mean, you've got to
ask the question whether the BSA is actually fit for
purpose of any use to anybody. And by and large
we regulate ourselves. Was in a very professional manner, and
there's no need for some sort of overlord to tell
us what to do and how to act. Is there.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, they certainly can't start policing the Internet. That's not
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
And I don't know that's the thing about wearing out,
but it's like it's going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Surely no, is it, Because there's not much to do
in the telecommunications media. They are sort of looking around
into the Internet.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But I reckon they're playing politics. So I think what
it is to him is they're playing politics at the moment.
I think they're they're making a play for some sort
of relevancy. It's like the Mowbrays with this business of
the you know, the name suppression and the reality of
of of online stuff. You know, when TikTok is outing
somebody allegedly, whether legally or not, well, it's illegal, but
whether accurately or not. I mean the horse the horse bolted,
(08:42):
there's there's no there's no long k in Wellington with
a clipboard. Who's going to stopping at that, are they?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That's exactly because it tiktoks of wash with misinformation, and
that's where young people get a lot of their news.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So that is actually really distinct.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I feel so bad that people have to come out
and defend themselves against that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But but here's this is all premer This is all
premised on the fact that people actually believe what they
do on social media. I'm not I'm not I'm not.
I'm not convinced. I trust for at twenty twenty four
he always have one of the highest levels of distrust
of social media in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, and let me give me the example, Katie. Was
it you that was telling me the other day? Riba McIntyre.
Riba McIntire came out the other day how Old'sriver seventy something,
seventy one or two, whatever it is. Riba McIntire came
out the other day to deny the reports on social
media that she was pregnant. Because people believe she was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's because they did an AI video for holding up.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's what I'm saying. It's how stupid some people are.
And when you're dealing with that level of stupidity, how
do you fight that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There's always look, there'll always be examples. But I do
I do. I have. I have a I guess a
confidence that New Zealanders can because we saw it. We're pragmatic.
People will sniff out bs just like just like Brendan
McCullen did.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh what sort of Macavelli you laugh? Was that at
the end, Actually, I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'll give you that. Actually it was. It was a
pause because I thought, actually, that's not a very good
line at all. It wasn't Macabellian. It was a recognition
of one's own lameness.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'll give you a counter to Brinda McCallum, and that
was John Mayer. John Mayer was in the studio and
he said to me, you know, there's it was just
talking about relationships and people. You see again, you like that.
John Mayer said to me as he left the studio Gos,
I'll tell you what, Mike, I know we're going to
meet again. And I thought, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
No, not. I could see, I.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Could see, I could see right through it. I see.
I felt like saying, John, that's a line, you know,
it's a line You're never coming again, And to this
day he never has.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Don't give me, don't give me your cheap, muscular American conviviality.
I know I'll never see you, but.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
See, I felt bad about that because when I watched
them in the concert for the raising the money for
the Fires of Los Angeles, he was the highlight of
the show. And you just stood on stage, three guitars,
three songs, and he was phenomenal, And at that particular point,
I felt, yeah, he is tell and I felt at
that point I'd like to see John again, and I
hope he was honest, but I don't think he will.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Particular one of particularly sadness is for you that you
might not get to see John again, which wok it
up as another great sadness of.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Life sansor sitting it up now, sitting it up now.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He can't do it today because he's got the afternoon
off and a bit of a slash ell on Monday,
but apart from that he'll get to it as soon
as he can next week. Nice to see you guys,
Tim and Katie. They'll be back next week, will you.
I'm sure they will.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
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Speaker 3 (11:33):
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Is Khaleide your mate? Tim?
Speaker 2 (00:04):
I might have been of Youdom oncewed to the concert
when it was spark Arena.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Pretty good, so interesting. I remember you telling me the
story about you interviewing Khaleid and how much you loved him,
And yet here's such a short time, lady, you can't
even barely remember the guy.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
Here's the deal. Our first kid took away ninety percent
of my memory. The second one took away ninety percent
of the ten percent that's left. What's your name.
Speaker 1 (00:26):
Again, exactly, Cadie? How are you?
Speaker 3 (00:30):
I'm excellent, Thank you very much.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
And I just I would have asked Brendan McCullum about
that on it, because he might have actually forgot I
had forgotten about that, and he may also have forgotten
about that.
Speaker 3 (00:42):
It's like khale Until he raised it, I was like, oh,
that's right.
Speaker 1 (00:48):
I remember Garth Tellois. I hope Garth is prot Goth
a problem with me telling him stories about Garth galloways,
Garth the lawyer is probably going to ssume me. But
I remember Garth telling me he goes his words were,
and I was really heartbroken by it, and he said,
you realize heartbroken? Well, no, it was because do you know,
you know context, no.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Exactly exact because here's the thing case I thought we
were going to get, you know, when it's like Brendan
McCullum wouldn't speak to me. I thought we were going
to get a plumbing of the depths of Mike's heart.
But it just turned out to be another I was right.
Are you familiar with those?
Speaker 3 (01:24):
It was going? I knew that's this is going to end,
and I was right.
Speaker 4 (01:28):
But what I think I was right was he started
it with one of my life's great sadnesses, and I thought, well,
if that is an over egging something, I'm not sure
what it's a great life sadness that Brendan mcullum wouldn't
talk to you this it's no.
Speaker 1 (01:43):
So think about it from my point of view, from
a professional point of view, right, there are certain people
in the world that you enjoy talking to, or you
want to talk to, or you'd like to think that
would talk to you, or you know what I'm saying.
So from from a job's point of view, and so
there are a lot of people who could go, look,
I'm never talking to you again. I can give a
monkeys not completely celebrate the fact, they'll never have them
on the program again. But he was like, he's a
(02:05):
bright guy, and he's insightful, and he's successful, and you
think I'd like to have a relationship with him, you know,
so that because there will be a point down the
track where he does something substantive, and wouldn't it be
good to be able to touch base with him? And
that was curtailed, and so especially when the British thing
came along, I thought I'd love to be able to
(02:26):
talk to him about that. But you know, Garth said,
you realize he's never going to talk to you again,
and I thought, so, anyway, it seems to have come right.
Speaker 2 (02:35):
He's moved on. You've moved on. We all forgot about
it until you remembered it.
Speaker 4 (02:39):
Did Sam give you any insights when you turn up
at three o'clock and said, wait, what's he doing on
the show?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
What I found out?
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (02:44):
No, that's funny. You should say that, because Jason the
boss was and he reads the setup the night before
and he go, he was surprised. You just told her
he was surprised that he was on. Sam was away
yesterday and didn't have any inkling of what was going on.
The show. And so I said to Sam this morning,
I said, what's the story of the McAll? And men,
he guys wouldn't have the slightest idea. I've been away.
You know how people go away for a day, they
take a day off, and they come back and pretend
(03:05):
that nothing's happened.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
And there's a lot of that. He was getting the
dog's fade eight and a half hours in the car.
Speaker 1 (03:12):
Let me tell you about the story about the spain. Sok, Sammy,
Now this is what is Katie? What is Sammy? Sammy's
a millennial? Is he a gen Z? To Jennel for
what is he?
Speaker 3 (03:24):
I think he's a millennial?
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Yeah, okay, so that's the problem with millennials.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, it'd be at the top, it'd be at the
bottom end of millennial almost gen z, I think so.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
And this is the problem with these people. So he
count afford a dining table. He can't afford a dining table,
but he can afford nineteen thousand dollars for a cockadoodle doo.
And so he goes and buys a pure bread dog.
And so part of the deal was he has to
take the dog back to the special vet that they
had requested, which happens to be in another town hours away.
(03:54):
And I said to Sammy, I said, you do realize
this is the Ponzi scheme, don't you that the breeder
flicks the money off to the bit and the whole
thing's dodged. Yes, because the dog's getting spait. It's not
brain it's not it's not brain surgery. He's not having
a heart transplant. He's just getting spade. So he sets
off at four thirty yesterday morning, and then this and
GTR and all the way, hours and hours and hours
(04:15):
in the traffic, and then of course you dropped the
dog off and the dog's going to have a several
hour operation, then several hours of recovery. So Sam's just
wandering around the mountains and the cafes and the beaches
were just filling in time. And then he's got to
pick the dog up and then he's going to take
it all the way back to walking. So he was
on the road yesterday sixteen hours. It was a sixteen
hour day in the GDR along with the operation just
for this dunk dog and the Ponzi skim you bought Hm.
Speaker 2 (04:36):
Could couldn't he have done? Couldn't he have done. I mean,
what seems a bit slack here, Mike. I mean, if
he's why is he wandering around the mountains and drinking coffee?
Could have done a bit of set up for you.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
Couldn't have couldn't agree that there was phone coverage. He
could have set Brendan McCallum up exactly. But anyway, we
had exactly, we had the villains, we had the fillin's doing.
And what a great job the fillains did. They got me,
Brendan McCallum, the greatest interview that I hadn't done. I forget,
forget about peace between Israel and Gaza.
Speaker 2 (05:05):
Leenda McCallum, my asking.
Speaker 1 (05:07):
Say no more? Sixteen hours and a GTR Mike, how
can you afford the fuel cheaper to buy a dining table?
That's what I keep telling him. For goodness sake, Sam,
is there a warranty on the dog or something? Just
go to an event?
Speaker 2 (05:17):
What to keep telling it?
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Young ones won't listen allway, Guys, I've.
Speaker 3 (05:22):
Got a You might have Brendan McCullum ons side, but
you don't have me. Because this week I might need
to hire your Garth Galloway.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
I might need to hire a lawyer because I notice,
actually I didn't notice because I was on court at
the time, but the boss.
Speaker 5 (05:35):
In court on court rackets, and the boss sent me
a link to an interview you did with the head
of the BSA where you threw me right under the
bus and said, you're taking up a shoe with Sean
Plunketts whatever platform.
Speaker 4 (05:50):
What if I want to take issue and go to
court over my wife's Instagram And she said, well, that's interesting,
And you said, what if she's out in the field
saying what Sean's saying, which car suspersions that I would
ever do such a thing.
Speaker 3 (06:05):
And she goes, well, that's interesting, that's something we would have.
Why would you flag.
Speaker 1 (06:09):
My Instagram mediation required here to what I'm saying. What
I'm saying, Tim, and I think you'll agree with me
on this is I wasn't suggesting Katie would go down
the sewn Plunket track, because who does? And look where
it's got them. What I was suggesting is Katie's big
on Instagram. She's got a very large Instagram following. And
therefore is that is she do? And is that a
radio show or the equivalent of a radio show? And
(06:32):
is a sort of thing they would look at as
a radio program and therefore potentially ping Hercules.
Speaker 2 (06:40):
Says she was about whether the BSA has jurisdiction over
the Internet or just telliccommunications based communications, and that's yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1 (06:47):
And Glenn, I think yes, Glenn makes a very good
point if they did look at Katie's Instagram as a
radio program a lot. There are two things on Katie's
Instagram that would be problematic for the BSA. One of
the nudes of me, and the other one is the Warriors.
It is the Warriors video of me swearing and swearing
and so well, it's well.
Speaker 2 (07:09):
It's also the drinking. It's the drinking, drinking and swearing
blind a lot better and the lunity.
Speaker 3 (07:15):
Yeah, a lot there that it would be upheld.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
But I think the best part of that interview actually
was when she said she knows how intimidating it is
for people to receive a letter from the BSA and
you burst out laughing brightly.
Speaker 3 (07:24):
So at that point she.
Speaker 2 (07:27):
Got carried away with how important they think they might.
Speaker 1 (07:29):
Be and they're not.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
Do you know.
Speaker 1 (07:31):
We sat down, we're in the in the news break,
and we would talk. I asked, I said, when was
the last time this company had one of those decisions
in the BSA that actually counted for something, you know,
In other words, somebody here did something egregious and they
had to come back with a fine or so. And
when there was silence in the room, we couldn't think
of one. They suggested that there was a year ago
one of the stations down the stairs did something stupid
(07:52):
and that was it. So I mean, you've got to
ask the question whether the BSA is actually fit for
purpose of any use to anybody. And by and large
we regulate ourselves. Was in a very professional manner, and
there's no need for some sort of overlord to tell
us what to do and how to act. Is there.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Well, they certainly can't start policing the Internet. That's not
going to happen.
Speaker 4 (08:08):
And I don't know that's the thing about wearing out,
but it's like it's going nowhere.
Speaker 2 (08:12):
Surely no, is it, Because there's not much to do
in the telecommunications media. They are sort of looking around
into the Internet.
Speaker 1 (08:20):
But I reckon they're playing politics. So I think what
it is to him is they're playing politics at the moment.
I think they're they're making a play for some sort
of relevancy. It's like the Mowbrays with this business of
the you know, the name suppression and the reality of
of of online stuff. You know, when TikTok is outing
somebody allegedly, whether legally or not, well, it's illegal, but
whether accurately or not. I mean the horse the horse bolted,
(08:42):
there's there's no there's no long k in Wellington with
a clipboard. Who's going to stopping at that, are they?
Speaker 3 (08:47):
No?
Speaker 4 (08:47):
That's exactly because it tiktoks of wash with misinformation, and
that's where young people get a lot of their news.
Speaker 3 (08:53):
So that is actually really distinct.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
I feel so bad that people have to come out
and defend themselves against that.
Speaker 2 (08:58):
But but here's this is all premer This is all
premised on the fact that people actually believe what they
do on social media. I'm not I'm not I'm not.
I'm not convinced. I trust for at twenty twenty four
he always have one of the highest levels of distrust
of social media in the world.
Speaker 1 (09:16):
No, and let me give me the example, Katie. Was
it you that was telling me the other day? Riba McIntyre.
Riba McIntire came out the other day how Old'sriver seventy something,
seventy one or two, whatever it is. Riba McIntire came
out the other day to deny the reports on social
media that she was pregnant. Because people believe she was pregnant.
Speaker 3 (09:34):
That's because they did an AI video for holding up.
Speaker 1 (09:38):
That's what I'm saying. It's how stupid some people are.
And when you're dealing with that level of stupidity, how
do you fight that.
Speaker 2 (09:45):
There's always look, there'll always be examples. But I do
I do. I have. I have a I guess a
confidence that New Zealanders can because we saw it. We're pragmatic.
People will sniff out bs just like just like Brendan
McCullen did.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Oh what sort of Macavelli you laugh? Was that at
the end, Actually, I tell you what.
Speaker 2 (10:04):
I'll give you that. Actually it was. It was a
pause because I thought, actually, that's not a very good
line at all. It wasn't Macabellian. It was a recognition
of one's own lameness.
Speaker 1 (10:15):
I'll give you a counter to Brinda McCallum, and that
was John Mayer. John Mayer was in the studio and
he said to me, you know, there's it was just
talking about relationships and people. You see again, you like that.
John Mayer said to me as he left the studio Gos,
I'll tell you what, Mike, I know we're going to
meet again. And I thought, no, we're not.
Speaker 2 (10:30):
No, not. I could see, I.
Speaker 1 (10:31):
Could see, I could see right through it. I see.
I felt like saying, John, that's a line, you know,
it's a line You're never coming again, And to this
day he never has.
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Don't give me, don't give me your cheap, muscular American conviviality.
I know I'll never see you, but.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
See, I felt bad about that because when I watched
them in the concert for the raising the money for
the Fires of Los Angeles, he was the highlight of
the show. And you just stood on stage, three guitars,
three songs, and he was phenomenal, And at that particular point,
I felt, yeah, he is tell and I felt at
that point I'd like to see John again, and I
hope he was honest, but I don't think he will.
Speaker 2 (11:05):
Well.
Speaker 4 (11:05):
Particular one of particularly sadness is for you that you
might not get to see John again, which wok it
up as another great sadness of.
Speaker 2 (11:12):
Life sansor sitting it up now, sitting it up now.
Speaker 1 (11:16):
He can't do it today because he's got the afternoon
off and a bit of a slash ell on Monday,
but apart from that he'll get to it as soon
as he can next week. Nice to see you guys,
Tim and Katie. They'll be back next week, will you.
I'm sure they will.
Speaker 2 (11:30):
For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks.
Speaker 3 (11:33):
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