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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We're just hours away from the first vice presidential debate
in the US two o'clock this afternoon our time. It's
pretty clear who this guy thinks is going to win.
Speaker 2 (00:07):
Going up against a moron, a total moron. How she
picked him is unbelievable, and I think it's a big factor.
There's something wrong with it. Gay, he's sick. He went
into the Michigan game the other day, he got booed out.
I went into the Alabama game. The one hundred and
twenty thousand people went crazy.
Speaker 1 (00:24):
Look, these things normally don't matter, but this time around,
because the race is so tight and because there are
no further presidential debates planned, it actually does. Managing partner
of Firehouse Strategies and Marco Rubio's former chief of staff,
Matt Terrell's here to share the debate.
Speaker 3 (00:37):
Matt, Hello, Hey, great to be with you.
Speaker 1 (00:40):
I feel like Tim Waltz has got the edge because
he is so much more likable than JD. Vance. Am
I being unfair?
Speaker 3 (00:48):
Well, it's up to the voters at that side. But
what I can tell you is that I think voters
are less concerned right now about personalities and are much
more focused on candidate's records. Yeah, particular what these candidates
will do when it comes so far moordability, the economy,
and border security. That's going to be the issues that
decide this race. And those independent undecided voters who will
be really deciding this election among other voters, but comes
(01:10):
out of those swing voters, if you will, in those
handful of background states. Those are the issues they care
about when the watching is debate tonight, and that's what
they'll be focused on.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
Yeah, I mean, this is what according to that CBS poll,
this is what the people want to hear about. They
want to hear about about immigration, they want to hear
about the economy. If if J Devons can keep it to that,
does he win, I think.
Speaker 3 (01:28):
It's gould be a better night tonight for Center jd Vance.
He focuses on those issues and not just talking about
the future that a Trump Van's ticket would look like
if they were elected, but also drawing contrast, you know,
for example, a drawing contrast between foreign President Trump's record
on the economy and inflation and border security and comparing
that with the Biden Harris administrations of record on those issues.
(01:51):
Tonight's just not just about the future, but for many voters,
the clear question will be my better off today than
I was four years ago. And I think it's a
real challenge for the Harror's ticket right now with respect
to this debate and this election. I think at the
end of the day, what voters are looking for those
who which canaidate, can really demonstrate the votes that they
can lead on those issues over the next four years.
Speaker 1 (02:11):
Do you think that there are people out there who,
you know, obviously a very small number lift now, but
people out there who haven't made up their minds about
Kamala Harris or Donald Trump, who will actually make the
minds based on the performance of one of these two guys.
Speaker 3 (02:24):
Well, I think there's a handful of voters out there
right now who are on decide in this race. I
think what you're looking at right now, though, is another
section of voters to really be focused on her the
Trump vance ticket. In particular, are those voters who traditionally
vote Democratic but right now may be given the Trump
dvance ticket. To look here, I mean, for example, you
look at Union voters right now, Vice President Harris is
underperforming among Union voters. They tended to vote and pass
(02:47):
elections for the Democrat nominee for president. That may not
be the case is time, with many Union voters out
there who are really being impacted by the economy, inflation
in particular. Take Hispanic voters, you know, look for a person,
Trump or now is around forty one percent with Hispanic voters.
That's an astonishing number for Republican nominee for president. Take
young voters, you know, forg President Trump right now is
(03:08):
point around fifty percent with young male voters under the
age of thirty. So look, the bottom line here is
not just those independent undecided voters a look at. It's
those traditional Democratic voters. And if you're the Trump Vance ticket,
can you flip them into your column going into election day?
That don't really matter in places like Pennsylvania, Georgia, and
North Carolina, those battleground states that could just be on
the margins at the end of the day, getting every
(03:30):
vote you can obviously a matter.
Speaker 2 (03:32):
Matt.
Speaker 1 (03:32):
While we're talking about these two, I'm fascinated by the
relationship between Donald Trump and Jdvance. Regardless of how this
I mean, regardless of how this election turns out, does
that relationship last? Do you think?
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Well? I think you know, look, I think there's a
reason why form President Trump selected Jade Vans, And the
reality is this ticket, I think at the end of
the day, it's going to be focused in on win
this election and then on the heels of that governing.
And I think for Foreign President Trump, you know, if
he is elected on day one, they're going to have
many challenges, particularly relates to the economy and inflation, for
order security, and I think the expectation will be that
(04:06):
he's got an administration's working together to really get this
country moving forward on those issues. So look, I think
at the end of the day, it's not just about
winning this elections about governing all others to dissect, if
you will, the relationships of these individuals, but the reality is,
I think that like any ticket, it's not just about
winning the election, but if you are elected governing in
effective fashion. It's not just the ticket and the administration,
(04:29):
but whether or not Foreign President Trump or whoever wins
this election, whether it's Vice Person Hairs or Foreign Persident Trump,
what kind of a Congress will they have. That's why
there's a big focus in this race, not just on
the posential election, but on the Senate and the House
that's going to matter as well, either for Vice Persident
Harris or former Persident Trump if they're elected.
Speaker 1 (04:47):
Thanks Matt, really appreciate your time.
Speaker 3 (04:48):
Mate.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
That's Matt Terrell, who's a managing pattern of fire house strategies,
Maco Rubio's form of chief of staff. For more from
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