Mike Hosking Breakfast Full Show Podcast: 19 August 2024

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Big news fold opinions, the mic Hosking, Breakfast with the
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Speaker 2 (00:09):
Ed be modding You welcome today new drink and drug
driving crackdown, insights into the cast of AI. It's new artists' income.
We've got the perception of corruption in this country apparently
going up the lads in the commentary box with the
sport after wrote Richard Arnold and seat price they.

Speaker 3 (00:23):
Added a class as well, Hosking.

Speaker 2 (00:25):
And welcome to the week. Seven past six. We're standing
by our house at the moment for the insurance company
to come back to us on a request for some coverage.
They're sending it off upstairs, apparently because we made a
claim last year as a result of the Summer of
doom and half the region's rain came through the back door. Anyway,
I was figuring, given in the grand scheme of things,
it's a very minor sort of claim, and that is
the amount of mucking around they're doing. Policies for people

(00:46):
with actual claims that involve big bucks and major repairs
must be a nightmare, which brings us to the survey
from the insurance companies that tell us some interesting stuff.
Eighty percent of US are against developing in risky areas.
Now this is where survey's fault badly. I mean, what
is risky? What's a risky area? And who decides what
the risk is? Four and ten rate the government's climate

(01:06):
action is poor, which presumably means six and ten think
it's fine. Forty percent of US aren't convinced climate impact
can be reduced. And I think I could be in
that category. But once again, what do they actually mean.
I mean, if I buy an EV do I think
I'll save the planet.

Speaker 4 (01:19):
No.

Speaker 2 (01:20):
If they don't stop building on floodplains, then we are
still going to get flooded. Yes, So then eight percent
eight think we should all pay for risk. In other words,
even though I am sensible and I'm safe, I still
need to pay for idiots on cliffs and riverbanks. So fortunately,
on that last one, at least most of us are
on the same page and are taking a realistic view
of matters. But too many of these big decisions, if

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you think about it, are made by councils. Where to build,
what the risk is, what the mitigations are. And here
is the simple truth. Most councils aren't up to much.
History shows us this. If you rely on a council,
you're going to be disappointed. I mean, ask the victims
of Hawk's Bay and the Auckland anniversary events how their
council interactions are going. Two years on. Insurance is an
issue for the age, and I'm not sure we're even

(02:03):
close to being on top of it. The day is
coming when cover will be either rejected or too expensive.
The uninsured will be growing in numbers. The pressure will
be on the government to cover the difference. We will
look increasingly like America. We are not prepared, sort of light,
not being ensured when the storm comes.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
News of the world in ninety seconds right to.

Speaker 2 (02:23):
The war where the Ukraine offensive is paying dividends. We've
got two bridges down now they may well be there
to stay.

Speaker 5 (02:28):
It's the Ukrainians that are on the offensive at the moment,
but there is still a big risk from Russian fire.
We've been told about glide bombs in particular striking in
this area, which means that everybody is pretty tense.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Stateside, the Dems are arriving in Chicago for the Big
Party to annoint their nominee, but polling is tight.

Speaker 6 (02:47):
Joe Biden was falling in the mid sixties among blacks.
Right now, Kamala Harris just hit eighty percent in the
most recent fall among blacks.

Speaker 3 (03:00):
Better, but it's not what it used to be.

Speaker 2 (03:02):
Got some new numbers for you shortly on that. Actually, then,
I've written a bunch of things. Firstly, they are all
still sticking the yobs and prison as a result of
the rights.

Speaker 7 (03:09):
We needed to swift justice with people destroying our communities
throwing bricks.

Speaker 8 (03:13):
Please, I'm burning down our library. So I agree with
that strategy.

Speaker 9 (03:17):
We've just about got enough of space left to accommodate
those people.

Speaker 3 (03:21):
They will be tight.

Speaker 2 (03:23):
They're cracking down on online extremism.

Speaker 9 (03:25):
We now have open source intelligence on the Internet on
sites like x where people are not banned for saying
extremist things, and then we have WhatsApp groups that are.

Speaker 4 (03:35):
Developed as well.

Speaker 2 (03:36):
They also have a lot of complaints about the health service.

Speaker 10 (03:39):
These are people who've been let down by the NHS twice,
first in the care that they received and then in
the fact that the investigation by the NHS Trust was
not sufficiently robust.

Speaker 2 (03:49):
And you wouldn't want to dip your toe in the
sea at Xmouth at the moment, but try.

Speaker 3 (03:54):
Look at the beach today.

Speaker 11 (03:54):
It's ridiculous.

Speaker 4 (03:55):
You're in the middle of August and there's hardly anybody here,
and I think that's really sad for the tourists, trade,
for the town, and also for the people coming down
on holiday.

Speaker 2 (04:05):
Yeah. Finally, also in Britain, the study into workplace socializing,
it has found that jen Za's aren't all that keen
on after work get togethers at the pub, one because
of their draining colleagues. And also too they see after
work socializing as in factor form of unpaid extra work.
So the theory is if you've got to make it
during workouts and not at the pub, or just ignore

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them completely because they're a pain in the ass. It's
a little of the world in marty seconds. Speaking of X,
aforementioned X, they've got some sort of stoush with Brazil
or Brazil's got some sort of stoush with X, and Morales,
who's running the place, has criticized Musk, and Musk gone
back Adham. So I think what I'm reading has happened
is if you happen to be in Brazil, you can
still use X. But they've pulled all their people out

(04:47):
of Brazil because they don't feel safe. I think that's
the I think that's the latest. Twelve past six.

Speaker 1 (04:53):
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Speaker 2 (05:00):
You're into the NDI. Scotty Mac came second in Saint
Lewis or Saint Louis this morning, so that's encouraging. We'll
have more with the lads after eight in the commentary box.
A little bit of spending news out of Britain. They
were up for July. Not much, but a bit. They'll
take it. Department stores did well. Sports goods Why did
sports goods do well? They think the euro has played
played a part. Fifteen past six and we have the

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phones management. Greg Smith, morning to you, Morning to Mike
us on a roll ended nicely Friday.

Speaker 3 (05:27):
We certainly did.

Speaker 12 (05:28):
Yes, we're very positive for the week. Actually was the
best week of twenty twenty four so far. Some people.
I've heared up nearly four percent nasdaka five point two
percent for both in the seasons they've been between twenty
three in fact, and just two percent from its record high.
So you're helping to point towards the soft economic landing
has been darted. Last week we had the retail sales,

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we had the fallen job as claims, and on Friday
we had a bit more on this vein so used
consumer sentiment that was rising more than expected in August
and flashing expectations run changed to us. That was good news.
The one in five inflation outlooks held steady at two
point nine three percent, respectively, so that it'll be pleasing.
The current conditions index did slump to sixty point nine,
that was its lowest since it's December between twenty two

(06:13):
and expectations and the exit climb to seventy two point one.
So it's a bit like here. Things at the moment
seems a bit of a challenge, but are expected to
improve and lower interst rates will help in that regard.
But yeah, certainly that there are some areas of the
economy in the US that are crying out for that
rate cut. The building sector is amongst them. So you
look at building permits, they were down four percent in
July one point three fine six million annualized. That's the

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lowest in four years. It was about three hundred thousand
below market estimates. And multi unit buildings apartments, they drove
the decline down twelve point four percent. Construction activity is
also under pressure. Housing starts down six point eight percent
from June to July and they're sixteen percent lower than
a year ago. Single family homes down fourteen percent. So look, well, yeah,

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rate cuts in need. We'll see what Jerome Power and
other central bankers have got to say. We've got the symposium
at Jackson Hole and Wyoming, and investors will be wanting
to hear the right things from the Fed chair to
keep that rally going.

Speaker 2 (07:07):
Okay, what about rocket Lab?

Speaker 12 (07:09):
Rock Lab great down Friday, up twelve percent. Hearts left
on a year. Investors warned by the news of the
company ship two Mars bound spacecraft to Cake Canaveral that's
in preparation for launch. It's making its way from Long
Beach in California now at two and a half thousand
mile fifty five hour road trip is a bit shorter
than the trip it faces after that. It's about two
and thirty million miles to Mars. It's going to take

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the Blue and Gold, as it's dubbed, eleven months to
get there. And this is the Escapade mission. The basically
looking at the interaction between solo wins and the Marsian atmosphere,
all part of the push to see whether humans can
actually live there. Obviously someone to do it quicker than
others on musk were can, so we can get there
within twenty years and colonize it. And yeah, it's basically
quite a big deal for rocket Lab in many ways.

Speaker 9 (07:51):
It's known.

Speaker 12 (07:51):
Obviously it's small, re usable electron rocket and actually built
a satellite bus for NASA NASA's Moon trip a couple
of years ago, but this will be one to I suppose,
show that it can do long trips and the journey
through the Solar System. So not surprisingly, Supeter Beecky was
undextendably excited. Also an interesting mission Night, Mike, and that
NASA have been pulling back on the cost of their missions,

(08:13):
so half a billion dollars I suppose of what they've
been running at. The price keep of this mission is
fifty five million dollars, so it's unclear how much of
this rocket levers getting rocket Lab certainly put the tech
sector on the map in a huge way, Mike, but
it's good to know we've got plenty other companies out
there trying to do great things. As well. So I
went to this icy House of Entest event last week,
showkay some of the best tech starts we've got to offer,

(08:33):
and the sum making some great propriate so you looking software,
mid tech, fintech and mixed douvers. And one thing that
looked particularly exciting the MIC is the first electric hydro
falling tourism vehicle. Pretty exciting. Maybe not one for the
cooks straight though.

Speaker 2 (08:47):
Now look at the manufacturing numbers. Find me something positive
in there, will you?

Speaker 12 (08:54):
Well, yeah, we have got a glimmer of positively mic.
So the manufacturing sector has been in contracts now for
over a year and this is the Benzi Business News
and performs of manufacturing imports actually todd stopping the rot.
But there were some signs of improvement. So for July
the index was forty four. That was an improvement from
forty one point two in June below fifty. Men's were
in contraction. That's been the case for seventeen months now

(09:17):
that the lower north from the top of the South
on look to be doing not so well, but you
know different in the middle and on top of the
self should say, but some things do appear to be
getting better. So production ticked up, as did new orders,
but you look at invantries they continued to fall, as
did jobs. It also looks like we're going to be
getting more in their way of unemployment there. Things are
still pretty tough. My proportion of negative comments and serveased

(09:39):
stood at seventy one point one percent in July, but
that was down from seventy six point three percent in June.
Comments around lack of waters, a lack of customers and sales.
So we're still battling a sluggish economy and the consumeach
has gone to their shells. So yeah, the drop of
the OCI last week obviously got markets excited. It's not
going to be a silver bullet overnight, and your time
will tell we get a few more rate cuts for

(09:59):
the end of the year. It makes for perhaps a
more festive period at the end of twenty twenty.

Speaker 2 (10:04):
Four, let us hope. So what are the numbers?

Speaker 12 (10:06):
Okay, Mike, So we've got the DORE up point two percent,
and the CMP five hundred point two percent and the
nasday cup point tw percent on Friday, and so as
I mentioned that a good week, so forty six five
nine on the DORE five five to two and four
on the S and P five hundred seventeen six three
one on the Nasdaq. Footze down point four percent, eighty
three one one. Nicko had a really strong Friday out
three point six percent. That was on the strong US

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start of thirty eight zero six two A six two
hundred and one point three percent seven nine seven one
n ZX fifty. We're aut point one four percent on
Friday twelve seven two seven. We're at four percent for
the week. Find that rate cut. That's the best since
April twenty twenty. So good there. Gold at fifty one
dollars two thousand, five hundred and eight announce, oil down
a dollar fifty six spots, sixty five, and the currencies

(10:50):
are the key. We perked up after falling on that
rate cut, sixty point five against the US dollar, ninety
point eight against the A dollar, forty six point eight
against stealing this week, Mike, it is choker. We've got
earnings from retailer target in the US. We've got minutes
and last meetings of the feed ECB and the IRBA.
We've got symposium and Jackson Hole. Locally, we've got bouncer
trade card spending, dairy auction, retail sales and a deluge

(11:14):
of earnings. We've got seventeen companies supporting the sweet Mike,
starting with Freightways, Contact Energy at a two milk today.

Speaker 2 (11:20):
Busy times go well, catch up, So appreciate it very much.
Greg Smith, Devon Funds Management with us. This morning's get
called Wolverine highest grossing R rated title of all time.
Beat the joke of five to sixteen million domestically. When
I say domestically, that's America, five sixty eight million internationally
in total one point zero eighty five billion dollars. The

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Speaker 1 (11:47):
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Speaker 2 (11:53):
Fresh polling out of the stage this morning, car it
was not doing as well as people seem to think,
people talking about all the momentums, all hers doesn't seem
that way from the numbers this morning. More shortly, morning, Mike,
have a look at the huge moon. I'm did driving
this morning. I didn't think it was huge. I thought
it was a nice moon, but I didn't think it
was particularly big. Mike. I was breath tested a couple
of saturdays ago, eleven thirty at night, just after I
got off the motorway. My husband's a shift worker. He'd

(12:14):
be tested probably four times on average per year, which
is encouraging. Because I was talking to Ryan before. I've
not been breath tested literally in decades. Mind, I'm not out.
I mean, you're really if you're in your lounge permanently,
no one's coming into breath test you, are.

Speaker 8 (12:26):
They you'd hope not.

Speaker 2 (12:28):
I forgot why your wife goes. I hope you're not
driving tonight or something like that. In Nelson, their presence
are strong, Mike. I've seen random stop checks eight in
the morning, two in the afternoon last month. Good to
see the police walking the bee here as well. Well,
that's encouraging. Anyway, more on This was Simme and Brown
after seven o'clock the morning, six twenty five.

Speaker 1 (12:46):
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Day fragrancy.

Speaker 2 (12:51):
Now we've got the pre season of the NFL underway
at the moment. Mahomes Patrick Kansas City has got some
headlines over the weekend. He executed behind the back past
to Trevis Kelsey look it up as well worth watching.
It was off the cuff because Kelsey didn't run the
right route.

Speaker 13 (13:06):
It wasn't a play now, it was a player the
first down. You know, you know he's got the voice
stream no no, and so he kind of mumbled out
the play. I couldn't hear it. I was walking up
to the line. I was like trying to decipher what
he was saying. Before I knew it, he snapped the
ball and yeah, and then I kind of saw him
out of my peripheral run to the sideline. So I
was trying to go help my guy out. By the
time I looked over there, he was already in mid form,

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like a photo on a sports card, throwing the ball
to me.

Speaker 14 (13:31):
So it was just I guess, right place.

Speaker 13 (13:33):
At the right time.

Speaker 2 (13:34):
So you can see the Afhilly relaxed in the preseason,
of course, if you haven't. His reference to Mahomes's voice
is this.

Speaker 15 (13:40):
I I've heard it since I was in like seventh grade,
so but it's something that I've kind of embraced. And
the guys Kelsey, Tyreek and those guys throw some shots
at me, but don't worry out those shots back.

Speaker 2 (13:52):
Can I recommend a program to you called hard Knocks
if you're into football and the start of the season,
Hard Knocks each year follows team they and bed themselves
with art team, and this year's team is the Chicago Bears.
Chicago Bears have been useless forever, and they have got
a new guy called Caleb Williams, and he's a rookie.
He was the number one draft pick. Very unusual, moderately

(14:12):
unusual to take a draft pick, especially at quarterback, and
throw them into the NFL as the starting figure, as
the name, as the savior, as the person that's going
to turn a team around. And that's highly unusual anyway,
that's what they're doing with him. Probably more interesting than
that is one of the blogs who's I don't think

(14:32):
particularly famous, but he's married to a woman called Simone
Biles who's quite good at gymnastics, and in the latest episode,
he and her do a climb off on a rope
in a gym, just their arms to the ceiling. Now,
remember he's an elite athlete, as obviously as she look

(14:53):
it up and watch it and be gobsmacked at how
exceptional she is. More sport than the commentary box After.

Speaker 1 (15:02):
Eight demanding the answers from the decision makers, the mic
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Speaker 2 (15:14):
Well, let's crunch through a couple of these numbers and
the new polling out this morning from the States. This
is YUGOV and CBS. As far as the issue is concerned,
the economy's number one, so economy, inflation, democracy, crime, guns,
the border, abortion. Democrats want to make abortion a big deal.
It doesn't appear to be so. Eighty three for the economy,
fifty one for abortion, so it trends down from there.

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It's a male female split when it comes to the
economy the number one issue. Trump wins with men sixty
three to thirty seven on the economy, who do you
trust more? Sixty three thirty seven. As far as women
are concerned, he still wins, not by much though, fifty
one forty nine. She's energized the base. According to this
particular poll back in July, we're going to vote if

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you're a Democrat, eighty one percent were it's now eighty seven,
so she's grow on the vote. What's trumped under his vote, Well,
it was ninety it's down to eighty eight. Margin of
area yes, but it's not growing nationally, and this is
where it gets really interesting heading into the convention this week.
Nationally she leads now fifty one forty eight, so that's
probably close enough to the plus or minus, so fifty

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one to forty eight in the battlegrounds though fifty fifty
twenty two to seven more from Richard Arden. Shortly are
Chicago's where the convention's being held. Of course, meantime back
here and speaking of politics, we've got a study that
highlights what they call the growing perception of corruption in
this country. As a result, the call is out for
strong laws and regulations limiting party donation, has been a

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management of lobbyists, all that sort of thing. That's the
area of concern, apparently, the report author Philippi Yasbeck's with us,
Philippa morning to.

Speaker 4 (16:44):
You, Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
So perception is it reality or not?

Speaker 4 (16:51):
There's quite a strong perception. There's possibly some reality, but
it is such an area where it's difficult to say
for certain that we have high levels of corruption with
something like lobbying around any laws, so no one's actually
doing anything illegal, and it's also really difficult to say

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how much somebody has influenced that a decision. We know
that even decision makers themselves often underestimate the influence of
people who've talked to them or given them gifts that
kind of thing.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
Who do you talk to and how do you measure it?

Speaker 4 (17:27):
Well? The way that corruption is often measured because it
is illegal, is by perceptions of it. And the indexes
that are used for the Transparency International numbers, for example,
are created by talking to business leaders, and usually business
leaders who are operating in a country outside of their
home country, So it will be a whole lot of

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the multinationals that operate in New Zealand, their business leaders
will be surveyed and that's how they construct these measures.

Speaker 2 (17:57):
How do we rank? I mean, we've always been seen
as real, really clean country, haven't We are we getting
worse at that noticeably worse materially we are.

Speaker 4 (18:04):
Getting We are getting worse. So we've always well, for
at least sort of ten to fifteen years, have been
number one or number two in the Transparency International rankings.
Have dropped down to number three, and our score has
also dropped quite a bit, So we are worried that
there is a bit of a slide. And we've also
seen a lot of media reporting with a lot of
concerns about lobbying, like the revolving door, people moving from

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the beehive into the private sector, and it's been growing
over the last few decades. We've definitely seen an explosion
in lobbying. We've also seen a lot more money being
donated to parties, and we've been hearing donors talking about
giving money to parties because not because they support that

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the general ideology of that party, but because they want
a very specific outcome.

Speaker 2 (18:56):
Okay, So, if you were going to do party donations
versus lobbying and wrap a few rules around it, which
would you tackle first, which is the biggest problem.

Speaker 4 (19:06):
They're both quite bad, but I would probably tackle the lobbying.
That's the one where we've got the least information, the
least disclosure, and the least regulation. The OECD have highlighted
this as an area of concern. They're worried that it
creates an unlevel playing field in the economy, and it
distorts investment and it creates risk if you're investing in

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the wrong things because you're investing in the things that
people have lobbied or made donations rather than things that
were actually good at see.

Speaker 2 (19:36):
How do you wrap around lobbying because donations you can
say one fifty thousand, that's a number. It's real lobbying
as what how many meetings, how many hours, how much arms.

Speaker 4 (19:47):
So the Irish probably have the best example here where
they have put in place quite strong laws around lobbying,
and that was in response to their financial crisis where
their banking sector basically collapsed because they'd created very very
relaxed regulations because they had such a cozy relationship with politicians,

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and so they have a mandatory code of conduct for lobbyists,
and lobbyists have to record and report their contacts with
politicians and decision makers, so they have publicly search for
registers with this information on so you can see the
patterns of contact that they've been And most countries also
have laws to stop the revolving doors, so you can't

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just have been a minister of the crown, walk out
of the beehive on Friday and walk into a private
sector job on the Monday, and on Tuesday you're back
in their lobbying all your former colleagues on an issue.

Speaker 2 (20:44):
Yeah, there's a bit of that going on, Philip, I
appreciate the insight Philip yesbec Helen Clark Foundation report author
eighteen minutes away from seven Pascal. So you heard the
numbers on the Harris Trump situation. What she's not short
of at the moment is money. The campaign this week
has booked three hundred and seven million dollars worth of
television and online ads in battleground states, a couple of

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hundred million on Hulu, Roku, YouTube, Paramount, Spotify, and Pandora.
Three hundred and seventy million dollars just for the next
couple of weeks worth of advertising. Seventeen two.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
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Speaker 2 (21:21):
Here's a fun fact for you. Guess how many people
arrived illegally in Britain yesterday, just yesterday, just Sunday their time.
How many people arrived via boat in Britain illegally. And
this is why it's going to haunt the key, because
he doesn't seem to have the answer. During the campaign,
he said that Rwanda thing are some of the planes
that had already taken out is not on, it's canceled,
it's gone. In fact, they announced that on their first
day as in government yesterday Sunday in Britain, five hundred

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people a ride by boat. Just add that up for
a month and see how you go fourteen away from.

Speaker 16 (21:47):
Seven international correspondence with ends and eye insurance, peace of
mind for New Zealand business.

Speaker 2 (21:53):
Right, sid Richard Arland Morning, good wadyway to cargo here
we come.

Speaker 17 (21:58):
That's ran on the eve of the big invention there is.
I think it's fair to say some I'm growing momentum
for the new look Democratic tickets Harris Walls, even though
we're just approaching prime time here. Kamala Harris leeds Donald
Trump in the ABC Washington Post Pole by fifty to
forty five percent, so a little more than the CBS
survey you were just speaking about, but not on the

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handling of the economy, and with the price spikes and
inflation still being seen here, that is going to be
an ongoing issue. On route to Chicago, the Harris team
has been making bus stops in battleground areas in Pennsylvania.
They just got their new campaign bus, while Tim Walls,
the Minnesota governor and Harris running mate, also made a
stop in Nebraska, where he grew up.

Speaker 1 (22:41):
Graduated from a town of four hundred named Butte.

Speaker 13 (22:45):
I wouldn't trade growing up.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
In that town for anything in the world. Population how
about half.

Speaker 17 (22:51):
That's not everyone desperate to live in Butte. This is
a sort of American political mythology stemming from the time
of Abraham Lincoln, Bill the log cabin, that kind of thing,
and becoming a representative not of the rich and famous,
but for the little folks. Anyway, this post pole has
some other interesting elements if you look more deeply into
the survey. There are some larger swings as with independent voters,

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and of course that's the key. Right months ago they
favored Donald Trump. Now they favor Kamala Harris by eleven points,
so that is a significant shift. There are a couple
more interesting questions from that poll. One is the candidate
physically fit to be president? Harris now has a thirty
point lead over the seventy eight year old Trump. Well,
last month, Trump had a thirty one point lead on

(23:35):
this over Joe Biden. Can we call a swing that
large on any issue in a recent poll. We can
all see why, obviously, but this is huge. On the
question of mental sharpness, Trump had a thirty point lead
a month back now it's Harris by nine points, so
it will see what this convention brings and where the
Harris performs. Joe Biden will deliver his big handover speech tomorrow,
then it becomes fully the Harrors campaign. Michelle Obama has

(23:58):
agreed to speak on Wednesday, your time. There had been
a little uncertainty over that, and former Republican congress Member
Adam Kinsingen also has just confirmed that he will speak
at the Democratic Convention, so that's interesting. As for Trump,
he is yet to find a solid attack line for Harris,
leading Trump supporter Senator Lindsey Graham to warn in relation

(24:19):
to the Trump approach today.

Speaker 18 (24:20):
Donald Trump, the propagateur of the showmen, may not win
this selection. So I'm looking for President Trump to show
up in the last eighty days to define what he
will do for our country, to fix broken borders, to
lower inflation.

Speaker 17 (24:37):
I think we know what he was trying to say.
The policies, discipline, not you, typical features of recent Trump rallies,
when at his latest he's been saying things like this.

Speaker 3 (24:46):
Joe Biden hates this was an overthrow of a president.

Speaker 11 (24:53):
Have you heard her laugh?

Speaker 16 (24:55):
That is the laugh of a crazy person.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
That is the laugh of a crazy So laugh with.

Speaker 19 (25:00):
A Luna, because as soon as she laughs, the elections
of her.

Speaker 20 (25:04):
I say that I am much better looking than her.
I think I'm much better much I'm a better look inter.

Speaker 17 (25:12):
Presidential beauty contest, political issues, or Trump being Trump.

Speaker 2 (25:16):
And then we come to College Station. I'm surprised that
they didn't see this coming, but there you go.

Speaker 17 (25:21):
I think we saw this coming. But you know, in
a bid to make most things under the Amazon flag
on this planet, they are testing their latest drone delivery
package service in the town near Houston, in Texas's College Station.
They call it prime Are. They promise to liver goods
within an hour of your order, and drones fly over
your house and drop the stuff in your front front yard. However,

(25:44):
a number of locals are not too pleased with how
this is going so far. Instead of seeing birds in
the late afternoons, there are endless numbers of these Amazon
drones dropping pizzas or who knows what on every corner
and sounding sound like an an invading air force.

Speaker 2 (26:01):
So how's your day?

Speaker 12 (26:02):
God?

Speaker 17 (26:03):
Yeah, the sweet sounds of Marinara's saw drops all over town,
I guess is the story.

Speaker 10 (26:08):
It's like a chainsaw.

Speaker 21 (26:10):
They sound like a swarm of bees.

Speaker 17 (26:12):
All many swarms would be, say some of the locals.

Speaker 10 (26:14):
And the launch pad is just back behind our neighborhood,
so then you have all of them converging.

Speaker 17 (26:19):
Amazon says it is working to relocate some of those
launch sites on a new quieter model drone as well.
But while many residents are annoyed, Amazon seems to think
it's all going pretty well, and many other companies, of course,
considering twenty four to seven air drops.

Speaker 2 (26:33):
See Wednesday, might appreciate it. Richard Arnold states, by the way,
read Peter Harcher's piece out on the Sydney Morning Herald.
He's in America at the moment. He talked to a
bloke over the weekend called Jim Messina, who was one
of the brains behind Obama getting elected in two thousand
and eight and the mastermind of the twenty twelve reelection.
He says, she Harris has had the best month in

(26:54):
modern American political history. Nine to seven.

Speaker 3 (26:59):
Mics Breakfast with the range rover of the mar News
togs eNB By.

Speaker 2 (27:03):
The way, the last of the Banksy works that came
out Friday at London Zoo if you haven't had a
chance to look that up over the week and do it,
because a very clever piece of work. I ranked the
aquarium number one and the zoo one number two. Anyway,
the zoo didn't know what to do with it. They
put a plastic cover over it. But they've worked out
over the weekend they need to remove it. They put
a replica in. They've apologized for it, but they need
the zoo to open and all the doors open because

(27:23):
of the middle of summer, and also to protect the work.
They don't know how they're going to protect the work,
what they're going to do with the work, but they
will do something with it so it will be well.
They could stick it on a wall in the gallery
apart from anything, but do look up those works if
you run into that sort of thing five minutes away
from seven.

Speaker 3 (27:39):
All the ins and the outs.

Speaker 1 (27:40):
It's the biz with business fiber take your business productivity to.

Speaker 3 (27:45):
The next level.

Speaker 2 (27:46):
Gaming so the gaming industry booming. Sunday Times as in
Britain have got their top thirty gaming Rich lists. They've
never done this before, so it's a first. It's made
up of developers, pros and YouTubers. The average age of
those people is forty five. Quarter of them are under
thirty five. Top of the pile a couple of Russian brothers,
Igor and Dimitri, who owned the game in company play Ricks.
They make games like Township, FISHTM and Homescapes, and they're

(28:08):
worth about twenty seven billion dollars, So that gives you
an indication as to what game is worth twenty seven
billion dollars. Second is Herman the Riller, who's worth one
and a half bit over billion. He made his money
from the Metaverse, which is interesting really because the Metaverse
are not making any money at all. In fact, they're
making less than no money. They've lost billions. So Herman's
making money on something that's losing money. That's funny, isn't it.
Third Ricardo z Acney, main developer of Candy Crush. Everyone's

(28:31):
heard of Candy Crush. He's worth about eight hundred and
seventy five million. Dan and Sam Houser Where's Doogie? What
happened to? Do you want of the family anyway? Sam
and Dan are fourth co founders rock Star Games. They
make Grand Theft, Auto Leor Schiff is worth seven hundred
and fifty million. He's fifth he's behind solitaires. Are you
talking about some old stuff there? Highest placed gamers are

(28:54):
the Sidemen. Now they're a UK group that includes Ksi
who's KSI Well, he owns the Prime drink company, along
with Logan Pool who's Logan Pool. He's a guy hangs
out in the boxing ring every now and again. Sidemen
collectively are worth about one hundred million just from gaming.
They just game for funzies and they're worth one hundred
million dollars. Then there's Felix Shellberg who's also known of
course as Paudy Pie twenty fifth. He's worth ninety five million.

(29:18):
He's the first YouTuber to make the gig a profession
and turn it mainstream. A lot of money in gaming,
isn't there? Now? On the road swimming, Brown's latest plan
is to have a whole lot of cops pull you
over and test you for drinking and drugging, and he's
given them some money to do that. But everyone, quite
rightly is game. Well, what about the resources? I didn't
think we had that many police people. Anyway, He'll try

(29:38):
and explain his way through all of that. AI is
a risk for music. We've got some new data around
that for you, and of course we'll do being a Monday.
The commentary Box after Rate, Andrew Saville and Guy have
elt with.

Speaker 3 (29:49):
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Speaker 1 (29:55):
The Mic Hosking Breakfast with al Vida, Retirement Communities, Life
Your Way News tog said, been.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
Only seven past seven. Another crackdown drunk driving or drug
driving as well. They're tossing money at an extra couple
of hundred thousand breath tests. A ye're looking to hit
three point three million annually. Part of the target is
to get sixty five percent of those tests done at
high or extreme times of risk of transportment is to
simming Brown with us, good morning.

Speaker 14 (30:17):
Good morning.

Speaker 2 (30:18):
The big query seems to be resourced. Do we have
enough coppers to do it all?

Speaker 22 (30:22):
If we do? This plan funds the road policing staff
within the police forces at one thousand and seventy police
so are dedicated to road policing and their job is
to enforce the law the two people who are drunk drivers,
drug drivers, breaking the road laws and making sure that
keeping New Zealand is safe. This funds them to do
their work, but it also has a very clear targets

(30:43):
around what we want them to be achieving.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
Are they not doing the job now?

Speaker 22 (30:48):
I think the point I'd make is over the last
ten years, only two of those years have we actually
seen greater than three million bridge tests actually achieved. Some
years we've seen below one point five million. We know
that alcohol or breath tests have an impact unto deterring
alcohol drunk drivers on our roads, and so it's really
important that we have clear targets and we see them

(31:09):
meeting those targets on a regular basis to keep New
Zealanders safe on the road. So this is about having
the clear targets and making sure we're achieving them on
a regular basis rather than the volatility we've seen in
recent years.

Speaker 2 (31:19):
What's magic about three point three million, Well, I.

Speaker 22 (31:23):
Think what we know is that when we get it
as high as possible, particularly above three million, we actually
do start seeing that deter and effect on our roads.
That's what the police in the NDTA have negotiated as
the number that they would like to see, and what
we're doing through this through this fund is basically saying
we want to have those targets on a regular basis,

(31:43):
also make sure that sixty five percent are being done
at those high risk times and location. So it's not
just having breath tests done at any target, you know, everywhere,
or just to get the target reached. We actually want
to be done at the most impactful times so that
we can deter drug drivers, drunk drivers, people taking those
risky behaviors on our road, so we can keep your

(32:04):
fylinders safe.

Speaker 2 (32:05):
Isn't that ironic that you've got to tell them that though?
Why aren't they doing it? Anyway?

Speaker 22 (32:10):
Well, I think this is why it. This goes for
a negotiation with the VTA and police. It's about making
sure that the funds that are made available through the
National Land Transport Fund are achieving the best bang for
the back for New Zealanders. And it's a negotiation between
police and VTA. So we've identified one of those most
riskierhados in this focused plus time and reason.

Speaker 2 (32:27):
All right, let's see how it goes appreciated some mean
brown transport Minister nine and it's past seven. Pascal classy
weekend speaking of the road with the boy races raiming
a series of police cars and Hamilton Wykato large gathering
crowd being described as hostile and violent. The District Council
Mayor Jackie Churches with us on this Jackie Morning.

Speaker 21 (32:44):
Good morning mate.

Speaker 2 (32:45):
You're sick of it like everybody else. Absolutely, what's happening here.
It's one thing to gather, it's another thing to be
aggressive towards the police. There's clearly no respect at all.

Speaker 21 (32:57):
Yeah, i'd agree with that, I think. I think also
its usually a small number of people who are actually
lead leading those people. A lot of those people just
probably like to go out and cruise around them hang
out with their mates. But I think there's some content
around leadership of actually being anti government, anti authority and

(33:18):
just taking it to the next level of gates police,
which is absolutely shocking to see. It's concerning for the
local residents of wherever it happens to be at the time.
It's happening all over the Waikato and the Waikido district.
But it's also a current intense of you're attacking the police.

Speaker 2 (33:34):
I don't know whether I mean, I'm sure it's nationwide
to a degree, but what is it about the Witekata.
You seem to be the post child for the sort
of behavior. What's going on? Do you think?

Speaker 21 (33:43):
Yes, when we're work ku a district council of the
White Nighty Waikata region, which the region has five hundred
thousand people, we've got about ninety thousand. But our district
council because we're between Auckland border and Hamilton, which is
the farthest growing two cities and New Zealand. And you know,
the through traffic our State Highway is at the twenty
thirty four rates, so we have a huge amount of

(34:06):
people who drive through. It's easily accessible from those major centers.
A lot of the people, you know cars these days,
they're coming from Topaul, they're coming from further away, they're
coming from long Day down. You know, social media these
days means that they can very quickly get together and
change their plans as to where they're going to meet
and have multiple people gathering together. I mean this started

(34:30):
in the base in Hamilton and then they've moved on
from there by the police, and then ends up north
of Hamilton just in a hole too, just in our
southern part of our district. But this is happening all
over the place.

Speaker 2 (34:40):
As far as you're concerned of the police doing their.

Speaker 21 (34:42):
Job, absolutely, but also you know, if you've got two
or three hundred people and cars and even if you've
got six or seven police units, which I understand we're there,
the ratio and the danger to those police and we
already know that would not be thankful that we actually
didn't have any injuries of the police, but four units damaged.

(35:02):
You know, that's the cost and the danger. It's just
not okay. Let alone the concerns of the residents around
that area when they're seeing that mass of people congregating
in their community.

Speaker 2 (35:12):
Couldn't agree more. Jackie, well done, Jackie Church. Not that
you can do anything about. I don't know. It's even
the council's job, really, is it. I mean, apart from
expressing the frustration of the local community, Whykata District Council
mayor twelve minutes past seven pasking could do one a
why out of it? Then rote I'm reading this s morning.
Couple of boys, good weekend down at the Rotorua auto house,
Lake Road, smashed the window, walked on and stole a

(35:36):
couple of dirt bikes valued at four thousand dollars. They're
on CCTV because none of these people are that bright,
so they were wandering around picking the bikes they wanted.
The thing that makes the story slightly different? Is their
age six and ten? Six and ten so small are
they the bikes they picked because they're thick. They couldn't
even carry them or walk them because they couldn't handle

(35:57):
the way six and ten? Something for Mark Mitchell on
Wednesday thirteen Past.

Speaker 1 (36:04):
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Speaker 2 (36:09):
At be Mike. The parenting is it fault hugely? Have
six to ten year olds are doing those things and
they need to be held accountable if you reckon, Mike.
Why don't they check warrant and licensing at the same
time as doing the breath testing? Well, in my experience
they do. It's exactly what they do. The first thing
they do is they look at windscreen as they say, hello,
if you had a drink, Mike, why don't they just
tear gains? The little sods possibly little Harshland. I might
be wrong morning. Mike's speaking in corruption. Do we ever

(36:32):
hear back on the Mariah voting scandal? You refer to
Takata tash Kemp. Yes, that was in the news yesterday.
The inference appears to be that they've accepted that that
was just an accounting era, an administrative era, bit of
paperwork that wasn't quite filled out correctly, and she'll rectify
the record. And that, my friends, is the end of that.
Mike is the musician Jim Messina who had a hit

(36:52):
with your Mama Don't Dance and Your Daddy Don't Rock
and Roll in the seventies, as in Loggins and Massiners
at the same man. No, it's not good question though,
two completely different Masinas, both Jim Messinas. One went into politics,
one had a one hit wonder sixteen minutes past seven.
Now claim this morning, speaking of music, that AI might
turn into a half billion dollar problem for the music industry.
Opera have conducted the first of its kind study in

(37:14):
this part of the world on the threat of AI.
They think in a couple of years, twenty percent of
musicians income will be at risk. APRA's Heead of New
Zealand Operations, Anthony Heay's with us, Anthony morning, Hi, Mike.
When I say twenty percent of musicians at risk, is
that one in five musicians or is it twenty percent
of everyone's income.

Speaker 23 (37:32):
No, we're talking about income here, right.

Speaker 2 (37:35):
So it's going to affect twenty percent of your income
and that's Basically, AI is going to generate music. I'm
going to be listening to the music, and the person
who wrote that song's not going to get paid because
it was a ripoff.

Speaker 23 (37:45):
There is an aspect that people could lose jobs, lose income,
lose livelihoods. I mean, we've been looking at we've been
looking at the evolution of AI like everyone over the
last few years, and it does feel that right now
we're at a of a precipice. It's it's something of
a of an industrial revolution.

Speaker 2 (38:07):
Right. So I've got concern across the Tasman this morning,
which I'm assuming is coming from the same survey. Barnes
and Higgins and co. Are expressily they're concerned. So what
are we looking for some sort of regulation rules around it?

Speaker 23 (38:20):
Well, I think what what what you know, content creators
generally are looking for is to be one part of
the discussion.

Speaker 14 (38:26):
So so big.

Speaker 23 (38:27):
Tech you know, are actively lobbying governments everywhere to enable
these services to be created. At the moment they're they're
generating enormous value for those big companies, and the content
creators themselves aren't part of that, uh you know, part
of that equation. And so yeah, we want to be

(38:48):
part of that equation. We want to be part of
the discussion if there is legislation that's possible to bring in,
as they have done in the EU and states throughout Europe.

Speaker 2 (39:01):
The think I followed with a great deal of interest.
I mean, as much as I'm on your side and
we all want to sort it out, I just wonder
whether it's a bit a bit of a whack a
mole and anything to do with social media in any way,
shape or form. You're going to have endless jurisdictions and
endless parts of the world looking to endlessly tie them up,
and when they fold, they'll pay a fine because they
don't give the monkeys, and the problem will never be solved.

(39:21):
Is that fair? Or am I being well?

Speaker 23 (39:23):
I mean it's fair to a certain degree. I think
the same the same conversations would have been held one
hundred years ago with the advent of radio, when when,
when in content was being used by big companies, and
there was a way ultimately to include those content creators
in that in that in that equation, in that commercial arrangement,

(39:44):
and that's what we're kind of looking for here. I
agree it's a global problem. I agree it's it's coming
at us, you know, at an exponential pace, and and
we can't we can't stop it. So we've got to
work out how can we how can we live with it,
and how can we use it to our best advantage.

Speaker 2 (40:01):
Okay, here's a game for you, Anthony. I'm gonna play
your piece of music one identify the artist, and to
tell me whether it's the real thing or AI generated
listen to this, so.

Speaker 19 (40:09):
It's gonna be forever or it's gonna go down in things?
You can tell me what it's over, if the high
was worth the game?

Speaker 2 (40:20):
Who is it?

Speaker 23 (40:21):
Well, it sounds like Johnny Cash?

Speaker 2 (40:23):
Correct? Is it real or not?

Speaker 23 (40:26):
I think it's fake?

Speaker 2 (40:27):
Well done. I would have picked it. I'm a massive
Johnny Cash fan. I would have picked it easily as fake.
But I well think that people who don't necessarily hear
them all that often wouldn't wouldn't know. And that's that's
a I for you.

Speaker 3 (40:39):
A So we want, we want.

Speaker 23 (40:42):
We want Johnny Cash or whoever wrote that song to
be able to consent to there or otherwise. If they're
into it, they're great, jump on. But if they're not,
then that they shouldn't have to be subject today.

Speaker 2 (40:54):
Good, good discussion. Appreciate it. That was an Taylor Swift
song and Johnny wasn't around at the time when Taylor
Swift came, so therefore you could probably add two and
two together as well. Seven twenty one.

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beggars believe that they haven't had a decent look at
the Waite Tangy Tribunal. You see them again on Friday
they strike, this time a report that condemns the Treaty
Principle's Bill. They condemn it and they want to abolish it. Travelers,
there is no such thing. There is no such thing.
The tribunal is like a court. Fortunately it doesn't have
the same powers as a court. And indeed, as a
result of the reports like this, you can surely argue
it's now nowadays a little more than an advocacy service

(42:35):
for the aggrieved as opposed to a tribunal or a
court that should be taken seriously. Such as their interventionism,
they border on being little more than state funded winges
these days. How can you as a tribunal of any
serious standing issue a report into a bill that does
not exist. There is no bill, There are no clauses.
As we sit here today, what we have is an idea,
an election commitment, a promise. Nothing has yet been written,

(42:57):
taken a cabinet fairly assigned off by cabinet. It does
not exist. So what the tribunal are saying is we
don't like the idea. Courts and tribunals should deal with fact.
They have no fact. They should deal with evidence. They
have no evidence. Missus Johnson in the library with the candlestick.
I assume, David see Moore as Missus Johnson, the Parliament's
the library, but they have no candlestick. They have as

(43:17):
they would see it, or as you and I would
see it, no crime. Not only isn't there a bill?
When there is a bill, guess what you get to
have a say at Select committee? Everyone gets to have
a say. Dare I suggest Mary might get to have
a say. That's called democracy, which ironically is a cornerstone
of what may or may not turn out to be
the Treaty Settlement's Bill. David See more generously on Friday,

(43:40):
welcome the report as part of the wider discussion he
wants to have. But as a taxpayer, I am over
a grouping who clearly have passed their use by date
for historic grievances, which is what they were set up
for in the first place, and have moved on to
grievance gravy trains. It is clear they hate the government.
They may as well write another report simply saying so.
At least it would once for all expose the agenda

(44:01):
that really drives them. Asking a katai taj camp, I
should also explain that van thing. She fills out some
more paperwork and we will pretend nothing happened. The more
substantive part of the allegation around when you turned up
at the marai of which she was the CEO but
also a candidate in the local mari seat, and they said, look,
let us help you fill in some forms here, and
one might be for the census and one might be

(44:23):
for the voting form, and let me take care of
that business for you. That is still being investigated. So
we'll wait and see how long that takes. Mike, the
music industry is deluded. Every aspect of life, job and
life will be affected by a well even If that's true,
you don't give up. What do you want to if
you write songs and music, what do you want to do?
Just give up and go Well, that's ai speaking of jobs.
Probably the best thing I read over the weekend. It

(44:45):
cited out of Australia. They've got a bit of angst
going at the moment over the cost of roughly speaking,
a basic degree, an arts degree at university is cracked fifty.
In other words, it's about sixteen seventeen thousand dollars a year.
In other words, it's exactly the same as what happens
in this country. And they did some very interesting numbers
as around how much you earn with your degree, whether
a degree is actually worth it, and what the employment

(45:07):
rate is depending on what degree you took. You know,
debt versus jobs, et cetera. So i'll work you through
some of that in the next half hour of the program.
Still to come though, the lads after rates in the commentary.

Speaker 1 (45:18):
Box, setting the news agenda and digging into the issues.

Speaker 3 (45:23):
The Mike Hosking Breakfast.

Speaker 1 (45:25):
With the range Rover, the la designed to intrigue and
use togsbs.

Speaker 2 (45:30):
Mike left the country for a week, came back to
know Neba. Also, where's Simon Dello? Do you know? Look,
I don't do the rosters. I'm not here. I don't
do the admint. I don't even work for these companies.
Neva's on I don't know where is never she on holiday?
Assumes she's on holiday. Everyone's on holiday, seemingly. I'm just
talking about Andrew Willison. He's on holiday as well.

Speaker 20 (45:46):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (45:47):
I'm old enough to know Johnny Cash, but I don't
listen to country music. I knew instantly the song was fake.
I'm glad you said that, because to me or my ear,
it sounds obviously fake. But the point is that they'll
tell you that generative I regenerates at a rate of knots,
and before you know it, if you listen to the
soft Bank guy, it's going to be ten thousand times
brighter than we are.

Speaker 8 (46:07):
So that's where it's a critical thing about that, is
that you know that particular one was ripping off two
different artists. It was not just Johnny Cash, but Tailswift
as well.

Speaker 2 (46:15):
Exactly, I've heard nothing so far in terms of AI
that you think, No, that's fantastic. You can see the potential.
Listen to the potential, but where it sits right now?
It's like that thing that Richard was talking about earlier
in the morning. How you can't see do you know
when Jeff Bezos came up with drone deliveries? It was
twenty years ago? And how you can't see that having

(46:38):
nine thousand drones in the air delivering pizzas is going
to be a problem. I don't know, but they can't.
And then when it does become a problem, everyone goes problem.

Speaker 8 (46:49):
So did you not like the song?

Speaker 11 (46:55):
No?

Speaker 2 (46:55):
No, no, that's great. It was fantastic in terms of
putting together a tune, But it doesn't sound like anybody
who doesn't. I mean, if you go to Jay, here's
your task before eight o'clock, go to chat GPT or
Generator AI or wherever you go, and say, make this
person's voice sound like Randy Travis. Come back to me
with that that's general, to AI, that's AI, and then

(47:18):
make it so good that I can't tell the difference
between this and Randy Travis. That's the test, isn't it?
This is this is what? Is this fun? This is fun?
It's not for me, it's great fun. Is it still Number?

Speaker 21 (47:31):
One?

Speaker 8 (47:31):
I wanted to stop. I write the stuff now.

Speaker 2 (47:33):
Thirty five minutes away from eight Sport for the lads
after eight o'clock. Andrew Sevell and Guy have felt now
new reporting to health and safety incidents are costing US
four point nine billion dollars a year. They claim nearly
half of us are affected by workplace incidents each year.
That's a weird one, isn't it. Business Leaders Health and
Safety Foruming Executive director Francois Button's with us on this morning.

Speaker 24 (47:54):
Good morning mite.

Speaker 2 (47:55):
Fun fact number one that blew me away this morning.
Half of us have some sort of incident in the workplace.
How's that possible? What's wrong with us?

Speaker 11 (48:03):
Well?

Speaker 24 (48:03):
I think it's a challenge that we've been asking ourselves
as a country, I think now for twenty years.

Speaker 11 (48:08):
Bi.

Speaker 24 (48:09):
I think that's the shocking thing. I think our performance
around how we look after our people at work does
cause concern.

Speaker 2 (48:16):
Is it all the same sort of industries you would expect, construction, science, mechanics,
all that sort of stuff or not?

Speaker 24 (48:22):
Well? I mean what is frustrating as we end up
with these predictable surprises that forestry, agriculture, construction and manufacturing,
transport logistics are the sect is where we have high
risk activity, so they do continue to be at the
top of our high injury and fatality rates.

Speaker 2 (48:38):
How do you link that into productivity? In what is productivity?
I mean, obviously, if you fall out of a tree
and you break your leg, you're not working anymore, So
that's a lack of productivity. But are they completely separate
things or not?

Speaker 24 (48:50):
No, they're very very closely correlated. I mean I would say,
you know, if we're injuring or hurting people at work,
it's the ultimate waste. We either got the wrong gear
for the job, We're either not providing the right training,
We're putting people into too much pressure. And when you
add all that up. The report we commissioned this year,
State of a Thriving Nation and report put the cost

(49:11):
at four point nine billion dollars to New Zealand. And
that's a conservative estimate around what that cost is. So
not only have we lost productivity to our individual businesses
and the families of these workers. As a country, this
is costing us.

Speaker 2 (49:25):
How does it work that we are twice as likely
to die in Australia? What are they doing where not?
Are they overregulated or more regulated?

Speaker 3 (49:32):
Well?

Speaker 24 (49:32):
I think there is definitely an issue around regulation. I
mean just for comparison across pretty much every industry or
sector you want, Australia in fewer people per capita than
New Zealand, so it's not just an industry control for
forestry or farming. They have the same lead deliver frameworkers
us what they've provided in Australia, and it's similar in

(49:55):
the UK is they've just got greater clarity with guidance
and regulation for workers and businesses, so people are clear
on what their expectations are on them and the regulators
are more present. Far this years will publically dug into that,
and New Zealand have all reactive and proactive when compared
to Australia. So I think businesses in Australia just have

(50:15):
greater clarity of what's expected of that sense that look,
whether it's unions or insurance costs or the regulator, they
need to be onto.

Speaker 2 (50:22):
This and that doesn't affect productivity. So in other words,
the more regulated you are, the more rules there are,
the more highbreds vests there are, the slower the work
rate as opposed to a person once again falling out
of a tree and breaking their leg.

Speaker 24 (50:34):
Well, look I mean, I think road cones are a
topical at the moment. I don't think just the present
of Hyder's and road and that's not safety. That can
be performance of safety. What drives productivity is good technology,
but also confidence and clarity. And I think what we
see in New Zealand is our productivity rates and our
workplace injury and fertility rates kind of mirror each other

(50:55):
when we compared to Australia business leaders I talk to, So, look,
we don't have too much read tape in New Zealand
at the moment. We've got too much ambiguity.

Speaker 2 (51:03):
We have a lack of clarity, all right, Francis Francois Marton,
Business Leaders, Health and Safety Forum Executive Director. It's eighteen
minutes away from eight pc. Half of us are affected
by workplace incidents each year. So that would mean for
those of us who aren't affected, there's somebody else somewhere
who's like almost permanently being affected. Well that indicated because

(51:24):
no one around here. I mean when Glenn, when you
fell over and you weren't at work, is that a
workplace injury even though it didn't happen at work.

Speaker 8 (51:31):
Well, I mean I guess as walking my dog. Does
that count as a side hustle?

Speaker 11 (51:36):
No?

Speaker 2 (51:36):
We You weren't any money from it, were you?

Speaker 8 (51:39):
Well, technically no, I guess I mean, I mean I
wasn't paying somebody else to do it, so I was
kind of earning money.

Speaker 2 (51:44):
Yeah, I don't know the stats and stats by the way,
I'll give you the stats in the moment on jobs
and universities. But Clark's and Jeremy This Morning is being
credited with the applications for ag food and related degrees
increasing in Britain by twenty percent. Number of applicants accepted
on agricultural courses alone is up eight percent. This is

(52:06):
on the back of an eighteen percent rise in twenty
twenty one. So all those people just sitting down watching
Clarkson's farm thought that looks fun. I might go do it.
Amazing A seventeen to two.

Speaker 1 (52:14):
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Speaker 2 (52:21):
It be Mike, I called. But yes, there's no way
half of us making acc claim every year. It's not
a bad point, mind you. The other day I gave
you those numbers on disabled people in the country. There's
one point one million disabled people in New Zealand, so
twenty percent of the population is disabled, which struck me
as being astonishing. Mike recently got caught up in the
shrink wrap at the bottom of a palate, big fall backwards,
two days off work, but still saw in certain places,

(52:42):
I mean getting caught up from the shrink wraps. So
the story you.

Speaker 8 (52:46):
Tell every paid for and yet funny.

Speaker 2 (52:47):
What happened to you caught in the shrink wrap? Push
you did? So big debate in Australia at the moment,
I don't know why we're not having one here, is
that the arts degree has cracked fifty thousand dollars. In
other words, three years of universe at sixteen seventeen thousand
dollars a year cracks fifty thousand dollars, and suddenly they
find that unacceptable. They're starting to argue that that's debt
for life, that if you come out of university with

(53:08):
an arts degree and owing fifty thousand dollars, that there's
no way in the world you will ever pay it off.
What I've told my kids over and over and over
and over and over and over again is the numbers
you see when you're nineteen twenty twenty one, twenty two
in terms of being gargantuan, are not the same numbers
you see when you're forty two to fifty two and
sixty two. In other words, you know, life has a
way of, you know, putting things into place. So then

(53:31):
we get to the business of do you need to
go to university and what are your chances of a job,
which to my mind becomes even more interesting. So the
highest degrees are the ones you've always thought dentistry, medicine,
all of those sort of things. Our medicines is one
hundred and one thousand in Australia, engineerings one hundred thousand,
computings ninety six. But then do you get a job?
And I just wonder whether anyone thinks about this where

(53:52):
we're sort of been going through at our house for
the last couple of years, and there's an argument that
says you're on a pathway you're one of those people
is going to university or you one of those people
who isn't one of those people who wants to get
out into the world and just do your own thing,
or whatever the case may be. But nevertheless, do you
think about when you go to university what you're doing.
Why are you're there, what it's costing, What are the

(54:12):
chances of your employment, what are the opportunities out the
other side? And in my experience the answers. No, there's
a lot of kids at university who are simply there
because they haven't worked out what to do in life.
Are there there because their mates are there. They're there
because they get to drink a lot of drink and
get drunk every weekend and get away from mom and dad,
and you know, all that sort of stuff happens. There's
a few people who got their act together and work
it all out. So the employment rate in Australia, and

(54:35):
there's no reason to believe it's any different here, is
if you do pharmacy, rehab medicine, you're going to get
a job. You're almost guaranteed a job. Teaching, you're almost
guaranteed a job. Veterinary science engineering ninety percent rate. If
you're in pharmacy that sort of job, it's ninety five percent.
So in other words, you're coming out, you will find work,
and chances are reasonably good paying work. But creative arts

(54:56):
in Australia fifty four percent employment rate. In other words,
you might you might not, So you've incurred fifty thousand
dollars in debt. You might or might not get a job.
Do you really want to be in the creative arts
or did you just take that sort of thing because
you were bored and you couldn't think of anything else.
Communications sixty four percent chance of employment, not high. Science
and math sixty nine percent chance of employment. Okay, Humanity
seventy one percent. So I think half the problem is

(55:19):
not the cost, and it's not the debt. It's what
you want to do with it, and where does it
actually take you, as opposed to you just fronting up
at the age of eighteen or nineteen and thinking, oh well,
we'll see how it goes. It is turned away from eight.

Speaker 3 (55:32):
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Speaker 2 (55:35):
Talk said he it is seven away from it now.
Let it's good you Wikitira is an entrepreneur and he
was making very good money apparently from selling these ice
blocks at school. This is the Northland and that was
until the board of trustees killed it. They got involved
in this anyway, Are Linux is with us? So we
wanted a word Lenox morning to you. Good morning Mike,
as I understand it, it was whether it was a

(55:55):
charity or not a charity. Is that roe? Let's say
so it was a charity versus not being a charity.
Is that right?

Speaker 7 (56:05):
I guess you could put it that way.

Speaker 2 (56:06):
Yeah, Is that what they told you? Because you're not
a charity, then we're not going to let you do
it on the school grounds.

Speaker 7 (56:13):
Well, they said that because it was They actually didn't
mention anything about me paying myself, but they kind of
said that just little things that they were saying that
kind of insad that they weren't happy with it.

Speaker 2 (56:25):
Why weren't they happy with it? Do you think?

Speaker 7 (56:29):
To be honest, I think it's a bit of tall
poppy syndrome. I'm not going to name names, but a
few staff members got a bit jealous and yeah, and
then it kind of went down from there, okay.

Speaker 2 (56:39):
And they said you can't do it? Can you do
it outside the school? And have you done it outside
the school?

Speaker 7 (56:45):
Lots of people have said that to me, and no,
I do. Sometimes after school I'll go out and sell
a few things, but I'm just going to move on
to bigger and better things.

Speaker 2 (56:53):
To be honest, good on you. No, No, what are
these bigger and better things you're moving on to.

Speaker 7 (56:58):
Well, I impoort products from overseas, and I print calendars
and take photos and organize market days and all sorts
of things. So I'm looking forward to the future fantastic.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
How old are you? What year are you in?

Speaker 7 (57:12):
I'm seventeen and I'm a year thirteen student at Kaito.

Speaker 2 (57:15):
College with a view to what going into business or
being an entrepreneur. Yes, and so is it a viable
business you're running with all this importation stuff from Bali
that you're selling.

Speaker 7 (57:27):
Oh yeah, definitely, it's just taken up. I started last
year and it's slowly slowly growing. I've just started at
markets and now I'm going online and into retail stores.
So yeah, it's good.

Speaker 2 (57:37):
See. The thing I couldn't work out about the board
of trustees is it was an entrepreneurial Don't they have
courses at your school in year thirteen running businesses and
doing all that sort of stuff.

Speaker 7 (57:46):
Yes, we have business courses at school, and actually our
school's motto is seek the champion, nurture them and they
will grow and flourish. And I said to them, I've
found entrepreneur, your champion inside myself. I just need your
blessing to enable it.

Speaker 2 (58:02):
Oh, I wouldn't have thought you could argue that clearly
they did.

Speaker 7 (58:06):
Yes, he did, even though that's their own vision and goal,
which is to seek the champion.

Speaker 2 (58:10):
Fantastic. Are you going to university to get a degree?
By the way, I'm not sure.

Speaker 7 (58:15):
I'll keep my options open, but that could be a
possibility in the future.

Speaker 2 (58:19):
And are you doing all of this out of kait
Tire or you one of those people who are looking
to leave kait Tire.

Speaker 7 (58:25):
I'm looking to leave ka Tyre one day, but I'm
not sure when.

Speaker 2 (58:28):
Fantastic, So you'll do the year, You'll get your business,
you'll grow big. Next thing you know, you'll come back
on this program in a couple of years, you'll be
a multimillionaire on the NBA.

Speaker 7 (58:36):
Rich lovely hopefully.

Speaker 2 (58:40):
Good on you go well, Lenox, appreciate it very much, Lenox. Good.
Hugh Wiketa, who's the school board, stopped them selling ice
blocks on the school grounds because it was a business
and you don't do business on the school grounds, you
only run a charity. But I think the inference being
is that he was paying himself and because he was
paying himself. Therefore that still became a business. Mike, speaking

(59:03):
of the North, I drive on the new Pooh Hooy
to Walkworth Motorway at the weekend. Here are my thoughts. One,
what a brilliant piece of infrastructure. Two why didn't they
keep it going to fung Array and then the Bay
of Islands. Three? Why is the speed SMIT limits so
damn low? One you're correct, Two because they don't have
enough money and there's no planning in this country and
they're hopeless. Three don't know, but they're going to change it, apparently.

(59:24):
Simme and Brown has talked about that particular piece of road,
along with the way Kadow Expressway and all the roads
of national significance being one hundred and twenty. I can
tell you being on that road every week, it already
is one hundred and twenty for most people. So I
think we're self governing. I think that's what that's about.
Let's rip into some sport after the news.

Speaker 1 (59:45):
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Speaker 25 (59:57):
Bes it is no wrong, no run come and at
all time here at Brookvale, tho've taken down the Warriors
twenty four points to ten.

Speaker 2 (01:00:10):
Oh Tiger twenty seven Auckland twenty five between Tasman and Canterbury.

Speaker 14 (01:00:14):
Del macor Ah victorious twenty two seven Hawks.

Speaker 2 (01:00:19):
By repelling the Southern.

Speaker 25 (01:00:21):
Stags thirty one points to seven.

Speaker 11 (01:00:24):
While he's alive, there's stamped this game.

Speaker 14 (01:00:27):
Like han I win twenty six twenty we are Blacks
fifty without loss at eight and Park.

Speaker 1 (01:00:36):
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Speaker 2 (01:00:40):
We'll go have help morning fellas. One morning Mike Andrew
was it ever going to be any other way? And
explained to me, given it wasn't going to be any
other way, How is it that you can be ordinary
one week at the elite level and then exceptional the next,
and vice versa for Argentina? How does that work?

Speaker 14 (01:00:55):
I thought, I thought you might have showed some balance
this morning and played what I said last week.

Speaker 2 (01:00:59):
No, no, I'm not.

Speaker 14 (01:01:00):
Interestingly, I didn't think so said last week they'd rumble
them at Eden Park. Exactly what happened? Look this all
black side is twenty to thirty points better every day
the week he had stats and Seena. So that Wellington game,
it just looked like there was a disconnect with what
they're trying to do, disconnect between some of the players
that got sorted out last week. Bang big first half.

(01:01:20):
I thought Mike the All Blacks handling in those conditions.
It was pouring down most of the day in awkward,
I thought the handling was outstanding. Often you see Blues
teams and All Blacks teams in night games in Rain
and Eden. Park lose control of the old fingertips. But
the All Blacks handling I thought was superb. And those
little chip kicks over the top as well. Now we

(01:01:42):
awake this massive challenge. Is this two tests in South Africa?

Speaker 16 (01:01:46):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (01:01:46):
Or are we just talking that up?

Speaker 14 (01:01:48):
No? No, no, huge challenge.

Speaker 2 (01:01:50):
I can't see if I would argue, correct me if
I'm wrong guy, I would argue, if we played the
way we played on Saturday night, we can beat any
side in the world.

Speaker 20 (01:01:58):
I would argue that you are erect as well. But
I also agree with sav that's a massive challenge.

Speaker 1 (01:02:03):
Date.

Speaker 20 (01:02:03):
There's no doubt they're the best team in the world
at the moment, and they have beaten easily a pretty
average Australian side, I'll give you that, but they've they've
made them look incredibly second rate. And that was pretty
much a South African B team on Saturday night as well.

Speaker 14 (01:02:19):
So yeah, there were ten regulars out of that South African.

Speaker 20 (01:02:22):
Yeah, so they'll bring them all back in South Africa
as well, back to back tests. I mean, this is
what rugby used to be. You'd go over there. It's
not a tour by any stretch, but it's kind of
a mini tour and I think it's bloody exciting to
see what this All Blacks team can do. They'll need
to perform like they did on Saturday to be any but.

Speaker 2 (01:02:39):
Isn't that the whole point of it save I mean,
what's the point of talking yourself out of it before
you've even left the country.

Speaker 14 (01:02:43):
If I'm not none, I'm not talking myself out of it.
I'm not talking them out of I'm just saying it's
the biggest challenge and we'll rugby at the moment. Yes,
Iland Ireland went there in July and picked up a win,
which is fantastic, But the way the South African's played,
especially in that first Test against Australia, I thought they
were mag magnificent. They ran the ball, they rumbled it
up the middle, they mauled, which they'll do against the

(01:03:04):
All Blacks. I think if that All Black forward pack
plays like that in the law in the first thirty
forty minutes at each part, yes, they've got a very
good chance.

Speaker 2 (01:03:12):
Fantastic.

Speaker 20 (01:03:12):
I suspect it'll be what Island did. The All Blacks
will win one and lose one. That's what I'm all right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:17):
Actually for the records, let's have some fun. So you
say one a piece, guy, What do you say, sir?

Speaker 14 (01:03:21):
I'd say one apiece. Yeah, they'd be more I think
they'd be more inclined to win kate Town second week.

Speaker 2 (01:03:25):
Okay, how sorry and sad? Is the scene going to
be for the Warriors or don't we really care about
it when we say goodbye to Shawn Johnson given that
we're not going to the top eight and the season's
over and it's all a bit of a disaster.

Speaker 20 (01:03:37):
Look, I hope for him that a good and I
would imagine that it's another sell out because they've been
selling out all their games, and I hope for him
that there's a good crowd in saying that there's just
another disappointing and poor performance on Friday Night, Wasn't it
from a team that has on paper so much from us,
so much talent, And it's going to be another season
of failure. And I know we've spoken about this in

(01:03:58):
recent weeks, and you brought it a couple of times
about Andrew Webster, who you know, there was so much
promise about him, and now you kind of sit back
and you go, well, what's going on? Why can't a
coach who seemingly had everything going for and was doing
everything so well and then they just can't produce it
on the field. I can't put my finger on what
is going on. As I say, I think they've got

(01:04:19):
the right team, but again year so disappointed.

Speaker 2 (01:04:24):
They got the same team this year as they had
last year, within a margin, and so you're doing you know,
so something's not right and that's the promise. Like I've
been to therapy and it hasn't worked, and I've wasted
all my money on the doctor and I just don't
know where I'm at now.

Speaker 14 (01:04:37):
I think didn't we come up with a theory earlier
a few weeks or several weeks ago that it just
didn't live up to expectations, or they've struggled living up
to those expectations from last year.

Speaker 2 (01:04:47):
It's like me coming on this program and it's a
crap program on a Monday because I struggled to live
up the expectations on a fry. I mean, that doesn't
even make sense.

Speaker 14 (01:04:54):
Yeah, but that's that's why you who you are. Every
day's perfection.

Speaker 2 (01:04:58):
Right, keep it? Come on, Andrew, you're telling it mate.

Speaker 14 (01:05:03):
Well, yeah, look, you've got the same players, you've got
the same physical pack, you've got a very good coach.
So how else do you explain? It's The irony with
Sewan Johnson is yes, he'll be sent off well this
week and it's a shame that not in the playoffs
and sending Johnson off like they should. But on Friday night,
there were a couple of times where he made some
very very odd decisions late in the tackle count, and

(01:05:24):
I thought it sort of probably sums up Sewan Johnson's career.

Speaker 2 (01:05:27):
It does that.

Speaker 20 (01:05:29):
I was about to say, will he be missed? That's
the question. Will you be missed by the Warriors and
will he be missed by the fans?

Speaker 2 (01:05:36):
Martin hadn't come along, Yes, and given the he'll.

Speaker 14 (01:05:39):
Be missed, I think he'll be missed it I think
he's I think he's I think he's I think he's genu.

Speaker 2 (01:05:43):
It's like saying that you miss Stacy Jones. I mean,
of course you do, but it mean he's still around,
you know what I mean. It's it's like you make
your contribution at the time moves on.

Speaker 20 (01:05:50):
I think Stacy Jones is probably more consistent, wasn't he
He is Sean Johnson on his day can be arguably
one of his players in the n r L. But
consistently consistency is thank you? Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
I don't know. Will you be missed? I think by
a large chunk of the fans he will be because
they've got memories of what he can do. But in

(01:06:11):
terms of consistency, will you be missed? Not so sure.

Speaker 2 (01:06:14):
Two pieces of video to talk to you guys about
in the moment, Guy have eld Andrew Saville more shortly
thirteen past.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
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Speaker 2 (01:06:24):
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barks on the mic hosking breakfast and your saivill I
go havel, Well that's right. Video piece number one. Have
you guys seen the double hits or the double bounce
at the Cincinnati Masters last week? Yes, right, yes, double
hit or not or double bounce or not one.

Speaker 20 (01:06:43):
Well, I'm not sure about a double double bounce, but
he hits it into the hits it twice in the course.

Speaker 7 (01:06:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:06:49):
Yeah, So for people who haven't seen it, look it
up because it's fantastic.

Speaker 20 (01:06:52):
And here's I think here's the problem with with that
sort of thing, is that in sport these days, and
particularly in tennis as well, they use so much technologic
try and get the calls right. So why can't they
use technology in that time?

Speaker 2 (01:07:04):
You're a good question for everything.

Speaker 20 (01:07:06):
You don't use it at all.

Speaker 2 (01:07:07):
Some tournaments apparently have the technology, others don't. So in
this particular tournament been Cincinnati, they didn't have the technology,
didn't review it. If they reviewed it, they would have
seen the umpire.

Speaker 14 (01:07:19):
That's a pretty big pre US Open tournament.

Speaker 2 (01:07:21):
No you think I would have thought so. Anyway, it
was game, set and match and the guy goes come
on and so so how you get past that. I
don't know. Second piece of video, Simone Biles and her
husband doing the rope climb. Have either of you seen it?

Speaker 20 (01:07:36):
I have not.

Speaker 2 (01:07:37):
No, you've got it. You've got It's from a program
called Hard Knocks. Jonathan Owens is her husband. He's a
Chicago Bear. So they're in the gym, big thick rope
to the ceiling. Right. You will have done it at school?

Speaker 14 (01:07:50):
Do they go straight up?

Speaker 2 (01:07:51):
Straight up? Straight up with just your arms? She when
they say go, she goes from the floor of the
gym to the ceiling of the gym in five seconds.

Speaker 20 (01:08:01):
Sounds like the members of the Country Box, doesn't it?

Speaker 2 (01:08:04):
If you say so?

Speaker 14 (01:08:06):
And Jonathan Awen, you seem to have a lot of
time on your hands watching TikTok clips.

Speaker 2 (01:08:10):
I'm on the bike. So on the bike, I used
to do a thing on the I've got a screen
that takes me around the world to different places, and
I've got sick of that. So now I do the YouTube,
and I'm watching clips and programs and stuff on the YouTube.

Speaker 20 (01:08:24):
I do the YouTube.

Speaker 2 (01:08:25):
I do the YouTube.

Speaker 14 (01:08:26):
I'll just motivate you to pedal faster.

Speaker 2 (01:08:28):
And very much so you're on very much so I
do you should? You should try. We'll do a challenge.
I do about was it in say half an hour?
I do about three fifty calories in half an hour?

Speaker 14 (01:08:43):
Yeah that's pretty good. That's pretty good. Yeah, what what
did do you doing?

Speaker 2 (01:08:47):
See? Now that's the button I hit. I do miles
per and so did The wattage button is separate. I
don't know, I need to look that up peak. I
think does three ten sound right?

Speaker 14 (01:08:58):
Yeah? That's quite good for over four hundred, I think
you're really busting your gut by some of those America's
Cup cyclaus. They're probably doing four or five hundred at least.

Speaker 2 (01:09:06):
You know Toto Wolf, Yeah, you know he's in good nick.
He was on one of those boats the other day.
He was on the British America's Cup boat and they
said he's of America's Cup caliber in terms of religion.
Power yep, on a bike incredible?

Speaker 14 (01:09:22):
Ant would you how would you go on the ropes?
Because you're power.

Speaker 2 (01:09:25):
Would get off the ground. I'd barely get off the ground.

Speaker 14 (01:09:28):
I was going to say, I think you do okay
because you're quite little and light. But although your arms
are quite skinny out there.

Speaker 2 (01:09:33):
Do you reckon that do you reckon? That's it because
here's the thing. He the husband, Jonathan Owens, is a
bank and he's a big guy, but he's very, very athletic,
and he just flailed. I mean he got there, but
he flailed because he's got just sheer top half power.

Speaker 14 (01:09:47):
She's he's lifting a lot more weight, right.

Speaker 2 (01:09:49):
Yeah, but she's tiny. She had her legs out horizontal
for a start and just literally went up like an elevator.
It was incredible.

Speaker 14 (01:09:58):
So yeah, those gymnasts were your male female, you're on
the vault, you're on the horse whatever. They're immensely strong.

Speaker 2 (01:10:06):
Yeah quick, all right, so those two videos people can
lookup because they're fantastic.

Speaker 14 (01:10:10):
Have you ever tried to do the rings?

Speaker 2 (01:10:12):
We did the rings at school?

Speaker 14 (01:10:14):
Yeah, same, and that just it's impossible.

Speaker 2 (01:10:16):
No, I could do. I couldn't do the horizontal with
your arms out the side. I couldn't do that. Couldn't
hold myself. But I could hold myself upside down.

Speaker 20 (01:10:26):
Oh that's pretty impressive.

Speaker 2 (01:10:28):
Yeah, so I could go. I could swing myself up
so I was vertical and then hold the rings.

Speaker 20 (01:10:33):
At that point, Christy, I would have thought that would
have been harder than the other way.

Speaker 2 (01:10:38):
No horizontal.

Speaker 14 (01:10:40):
I'm surprised I had the gymnastics gear at Limbod High.

Speaker 2 (01:10:43):
Well, we weren't necessarily at Lombard High. We went to
rich people's schools where they had properly equipment.

Speaker 14 (01:10:49):
That's kind of saying you would have had a good
you would have had a good shooting team.

Speaker 2 (01:10:52):
We had a we had a matt, you know for
the tumbling, and that was about us. Andrew, did you get.

Speaker 14 (01:11:01):
A pommel horse? We had the ropes, weed everything back
in the day. What was it going to I'd never
forgot what I was going to ask you.

Speaker 2 (01:11:08):
Does doesn't matter?

Speaker 14 (01:11:10):
Are we getting any ticks on the watts on the wattage?

Speaker 2 (01:11:12):
Okay? No, not a single text on the wattage, not
a single text on the wattage. But I am going
to hit the watch. What should I be aiming for?
If you over If I came back next week and
said over four hundred, you'll be blown away.

Speaker 14 (01:11:28):
Yes I can. I can let rip for a little
bit over four hundred. But that's that's you know, that's top,
that's bloody top pole.

Speaker 2 (01:11:38):
Top year And what do you do, guy, I wouldn't
have a clue. I don't believe you're putting out at
three ten maybe a sprint, but you'd be down at
one eighty to two twenty. So you see, the haters
are out already. Guy, I can't be an elite athlete
without the haters coming.

Speaker 8 (01:11:53):
Just be careful online bullies, because we don't want you
know the headline tomorrow Myke Hosking found dead next to
the station bike trying to achieve America's capstyle wattage.

Speaker 14 (01:12:05):
Hosking. Hosking taken to many places by video screen, but
not the right place. It's the headline.

Speaker 2 (01:12:12):
Nice to see you, guys. We'll see you next Monday.
Andrew Seville and Guy have elt it take twenty two already.

Speaker 1 (01:12:17):
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Speaker 2 (01:12:23):
The rule in tennis is that if you hit the
ball twice consecutively, but it's in one continuous stroke, that's okay.
I've never heard that rule in my life. I played
tennis every weekend most of my childhood at a competitive level,
and I've never heard that question that that rule once.
Mike is like involved when riding this bike. No, John
john Ford Teraradale's at the whole dealership.

Speaker 8 (01:12:45):
So you're doing it nude.

Speaker 2 (01:12:47):
Not doing it nude. I'm just writing some some casual
attire topless, though it's a bit warm after a while.
If you average three hundred watts for an hour, you'd
be above average. I'm above average day. But don't you
don't you question whether.

Speaker 8 (01:13:02):
I am abas we've just researched the rule?

Speaker 2 (01:13:05):
Is it? Really so? In a single stroke moving forward
you head it boom boom, and as long as you're
moving forward, that's that's what a stupid rule. I could
have used that several times when I did exactly that,
but I didn't know that rule exists. It strikes me
as a ridiculous rule. I always thought wattage was more
about your peak moment, like your searche like you know
the cycles on the on the American's cup, your search
you go bank hard, far short, and you measure your

(01:13:27):
maximum wattas that's what I thought.

Speaker 8 (01:13:28):
Wow, you just thought they had a bit of space
on the little monitor, and so they put a.

Speaker 2 (01:13:35):
Fair enough read the watts MX racer here eight hundred
watts rubbish, absolute crap. What's your bike?

Speaker 4 (01:13:42):
My?

Speaker 2 (01:13:42):
It's an eye fit. I thoroughly recommend Effeit discovered it
purely biked and think of the thing my wife discovered it.
But it's it's a bike with a screen. Screen. The
brilliance of the screen as you're not bored, and you
can go anywhere in the world and you can do
any sort of cycling. You can do sand, you can
do rocks, you can do river beds, you can do mountains,
you can do snow, you can do road, you can

(01:14:03):
do short, you can do long, you can do fast,
you can do slow, different types of bikes, mountain road,
the whole thing. So it sort of keeps you interested.
And there's a couple of New Zealand versions, and there's
a couple of people. I've been around Lake Wanica and
there's a New Zealander who does a Swiss series that
you're in the mountains of Switzerland round Mont Blanc and
those sort of places in New Zealand are doing that.
Some of them are entertaining, some of them aren't, but

(01:14:25):
as well worth doing. It's easy way to keep yourself
fit and healthy. Steve Price out of Australia for you
in a couple of moments. This infrastructure thing I was
reading in how the Prime Minister went across and looked
at infrastructure in New South Wales. Given what I read
over the weekend, I'm just not sure what he was
there for. And I'll explain more about that just a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:14:44):
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Speaker 2 (01:14:56):
Have you seen the topic of Jaya Durn's panel discussion? Yes,
I have. It's trying to avoid it. You're triggering me.
Don't trigger me. Used to cycle Mike on the Vlodrome,
This is now no Just correct me if I'm wrong.
So you've now got me obsessed about wattage. So I'm
gonna go home today. I'm going to hit the watts
big time. I'm going to dial up the watts on
the bike. Now, what I'm assuming I need to do

(01:15:17):
on wattage is pick a big gear and go hard
over a short period of time. Right, this is what
I'm working on, Mike. I was on the Vlodrome could
hit fifteen hundred watts in a ten second sprint. Olympians
the north of two thousand these days. So I'm gonna
do Can.

Speaker 8 (01:15:32):
We If you do get that high, can we then
plug you back into the national grid.

Speaker 2 (01:15:37):
You've got to be creative that level, can't you surely?
I mean, at least you could put enough energy into
a room for a single bulb twenty two minutes away
from nine.

Speaker 16 (01:15:45):
International correspondence with ends an eye insurance, peace of mind
for New Zealand business who are.

Speaker 2 (01:15:50):
Astralia to go through.

Speaker 11 (01:15:51):
Can't trig good money to you, I'd be sending you
to the local hospital emergency.

Speaker 2 (01:15:58):
Something could pop. Now correct me if I'm wrong, because
I don't think we've talked about this as yet. If
I arrive in Australia under this new visa scheme that
you haven't quite got up, but maybe you will, and
I say, now, look Hamas there are there are a
bit you know, the Western world's a bit down on them.
I don't give money to them directly, but they're not
as bad as you make up. And they say, welcome

(01:16:20):
to Australia. How is that not seen by virtually everyone
in Australia is a problem.

Speaker 11 (01:16:25):
Well it is, except it's not seen as a problem
by the government that leaves the country. That's the problem,
and that interview process that you just describe. That's probably
extensive compared to what's going on currently. So just to
backtrack on this, we have taken already a number in
the thousands of Palestinian refugees out of Gaza. There's not
been an arrival since November. That's basically because you can't

(01:16:49):
get out of Palestine. I mean all of the border
crossings is shut. But we are intending to take as
many as three four thousand not these people. Now it's
been revealed the process on the ground in Palestine. Clearly
you can't have the sort of interview you would normally
have with someone who you were granting a visa to
come here as a refugee. So it was revealed yesterday

(01:17:12):
by a senior cabinet minister, Ed Husick, who is himself
the first Muslim cabinet minister in Australia. Whether it was
a slip of the tongue or it just came out
or he intended to say this, but he made the
point that those visas that are now being issued to
Palestinians to come here when they can get out are
often tourist visas, so they're not refugee visas at all.

(01:17:35):
Now you can look at that two ways. Does that
mean well? And he said they are quicker to grant
tourist visa. I mean, obviously, if you're going to come
here for a holiday, we're not going to trawl through
your background and find out if you've been supporting a
terrorist organization. So Peter Dutton has, according to some commentary,
controversially said, look, while this conflict is on, we should

(01:17:57):
take no refugees from Palestine at all. And I would
think the majority of the public would agree with that,
but the government is calling one of the teals is
called him a racist. It's a really ugly argument. I
think Dunton has the public on his side.

Speaker 2 (01:18:12):
But I couldn't agree more because I mean what they
try and mix it up with is these are victims
of Warren of that, there is no question. Are there
innocent gardens? Of course there are. But you know, you
just can't separate the two out en mass at a
border and a visa process because you never know, and
it only takes the one mistake before you're saying, hang on,
we probably went a bit far. I mean, that's a

(01:18:33):
very nutshell, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:18:35):
Yeah, And some of those interviews have been as little
as less than an hour, and imagine what it would
be like trying to get any digital information about a
person's background in Palestine at the best of times, let
alone during a war.

Speaker 2 (01:18:48):
Exactly, the Victorian Public Service, fifty four thousand of them
getting a bonus obviously cracking on with it. And that's
gold plated stuff, is it.

Speaker 11 (01:18:57):
I stumbled upon this last week because someone close to
me actually works as Victorian Public Service and during their
last EBA, their work agreement where they've got a four
percent a year over three year pay rise, there was
a clause inserted there where they would all and I'm
talking fifty four thousand people, many of them working at
home and not refusing to go to the office, still

(01:19:18):
are going to get a quote cost of living benefit
valued at six hundred dollars each non means tested up
to people earning two hundred and fifty thousand dollars and
being paid to some public servants who've already left the
public service because they were employed there when this agreement
was struck. It's going to cost three hundred and seventy

(01:19:39):
million Victorian taxpayers dollars. And as you and I might
well know, Victoria is broken.

Speaker 2 (01:19:45):
This is true north of the border New South Wales.
We started talking about this briefly last week. These Liberals,
the councils, the shambles. I mean, I still haven't got
to the bottom of how it happened.

Speaker 11 (01:19:57):
Well, the people who made it not happen has been
sacked and now Peter Dutton and the federal Liberals say
they're going to take over the New Southwest branch if
they can. So it's local government elections. One hundred and
forty Liberal candidates to stand for local government elections are
in October. Many of them are sitting council members, so
they're being re elected. But you have to put in
a nomination form, which would seem to make sense. But

(01:20:20):
whoever the geniuses were running the Liberal Party in New
South Wales, the branches, the state director Richard Shields, he
got sacked at the end of last week because they
forgot to put in the form and now it looks
like they're all going to be sacked and Dutton's mob
will take over. I mean, it is as you are.

(01:20:41):
It is laughable, but it also shows what absolute chaos
trails inside parts of the Liberal Party across Australia.

Speaker 2 (01:20:49):
Hey, the Metro line under Sydney Harbor. Is that today
it's opening or is it already open?

Speaker 11 (01:20:54):
Yeah? Right, I'm sitting in Sydney talking to you right now.
I'm steering at the Harbor Bridge. Actually right. This thing
is four stations under the city. Two tunnels bought under
Sydney Harbor twenty billion dollars. First trains took off at
four point fifty eight this morning from the Southern station
and at for about five minutes later from the Northwestern station.

(01:21:17):
Trains run of one hundred klimeters an hour driverless. It
is a remarkable engineering project, and when you compare it
to the nonsense it's going on in Victoria where they
dug one hole, it's quite remarkable. I don't think any
of us as tourists produce it, but it's designed to
move large numbers of community.

Speaker 2 (01:21:34):
Good. Well, let me ask you this because our Prime
Minister was over there last week looking at that and
other infrastructural products, because in this country we're useless at
building things, and he wants to get, you know, work
out how it is. Would the people of Sydney argue
that the time it's taken, the money its cost be
well worth it to get what they've got.

Speaker 11 (01:21:55):
Yes, absolutely right because those northwestern so as you tried
ever to drive in there. No, it's peak our right now.
As I said, I'm looking at the heart of wigs
not moving and so public transport and the use of
trains is one is the way you would need to
get to work if you needed to from out there.
It's a remarkable piece of work. It's got three more
stages to go. It will eventually circle Sydney and it'll

(01:22:17):
make Sydney, which I think is the only truly international
city in Australia. It'll make a city like other places
where we use undergrounds like Tokyo and London.

Speaker 2 (01:22:27):
Fantastic. Go well see Wednesday appreciate a Steve Price out
of Australia. It's eight forty five.

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Speaker 8 (01:23:20):
Have you tried swift Swift Yeah, it's a similar sort
of thing, but like they have courses like you can
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So they take it to another level.

Speaker 2 (01:23:41):
Is that downloadable? Is what you're saying.

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Well, it's the same sort of thing as I fat,
it's just a competitive it's.

Speaker 2 (01:23:46):
A different thing. Tour de Francis Year seven fifty one
is strong. I'm going to get into this. I'm still
confused about it. Mike. What a great school board they've
taught that young entrepreneur that in this country, if you
have a great idea for a business, that you will
that will benefit people to the point that they will
pay for your product or service, you can make money
and perhaps create jobs. Then they closed them down. It's
a weird old business, isn't it.

Speaker 11 (01:24:06):
Mike.

Speaker 2 (01:24:07):
Look up FTP Functional threshold Performance. This is your sixty
minute max watts. I'm at three to five. I can
peak about eight hundred for a few seconds. Does it
make sense? Does it? I don't know the Disindra doing
thing just quickly, and I'm falling into the trap of
talking about Desindra dun And I think I swore off

(01:24:27):
ever talking about her again. Tell me why this is news.
Tell me why she's in the news this morning. She's
attending the Democratic Convention. So how many thousand you recon ten, twelve, thirteen, fifteen,
twenty one thousand people? Are we going to cover them all?
I mean, obviously we'll cover Karmela Harris for fairly serious reasons,
but just because she's turning up Why is that news?
Tell me why that news? Well, the other thing is

(01:24:49):
she's at a quote unquote side event. She is at
the Center for American Progress Action Fund, which is of
course a think tank and an advocacy or organization. Still,
I asked you the question again, is this news? She's
going to talk to a think tank or be part
of a panel. Patrick Gaspard, who's a former US Ambassador

(01:25:10):
to South Africa, will be leading the discussion on quote
unquote how to address the anxiety of our times, advance
social policy to solve problems that affect everyday life, and
begin to heal our nation.

Speaker 8 (01:25:25):
So I'm just working that out. Center for American Progress
Action Fund.

Speaker 2 (01:25:28):
Capuff, capuff. So why is any of that news? So
she's turning up to a panel discussion about nothing. How
is that news? And you wonder why the media has
the reputation it has. Nine Away from Nine.

Speaker 3 (01:25:47):
The my costing breakfast with the Range Rover Villas.

Speaker 2 (01:25:51):
She talked about a couple of months ago, very sad
to see all the Ted Baker stores are going to
be closed as off tomorrow in Britain, the remaining ones
who are going to be closed, and went into administration
in March of this year. Authentic Brands group only intellectual property,
which is why I assume, and I think I'm right
in saying that the ted Bakers in this part of
the world aren't closing. They've got a licensing agreements in Asia,

(01:26:11):
in the Middle East. They opened it in Glasgow back
in eighty eight. But I quite like Ted Baker and
what they were about. But anyway, so far they've closed
fifteen shops and two hundred and forty five jobs and
another thirty one about to be closed in five hundred
more jobs going, which is very very sad. Mike a
suggestion for a new segment. What's up, Mike, it's not bad.
Do we pay for those or not? Just take them

(01:26:32):
and run?

Speaker 8 (01:26:33):
Oh no, we just take them.

Speaker 2 (01:26:35):
Five minutes away from nine.

Speaker 1 (01:26:37):
Trending now with MS Warehouse the Real House of Fragrances.

Speaker 2 (01:26:42):
There's this thing on TikTok which I was reading about
a couple of days ago, and it's yet more stupidity.
They speed songs up by twenty five thirty percent. The rationale,
there's no rationale. They're saying. They do this so that
they can hear more stuff. So anyway, so what we've
done is take four of my favorite songs, and we've

(01:27:06):
sped them up by thirty percent. And my job now
is to pick one what the song is, and two
whether I like it sped up or not. Okay, are
you ready Glenn? No, here's song number one and it's stupid?

(01:27:30):
Is that only thirty percent? Geez? I wouldn't have said
thirty percent. The more fun game to play is how
much do you think I've sped this song up by?
And I would have said fifty two percent on that.
So thirty percent for Bob Dylan, not dark yet brilliant.
Song number two? Oh yeah, Dolly parton the Grass is

(01:27:56):
Blue and the Thing That's green. It's a beautiful song.
Is there only thirty percent as well? See, I would
have said sixty percent. That's used like chipmunkysk at that
particular point.

Speaker 8 (01:28:05):
Too, i'est I'm be interested to see if you get us
next one?

Speaker 2 (01:28:07):
Okay? Three? Here it is not respect? Oh he's good,
it's good.

Speaker 14 (01:28:22):
He's going.

Speaker 2 (01:28:22):
I love this game. Number four dominion? Why am I
on radio?

Speaker 8 (01:28:37):
Can we never do this again?

Speaker 2 (01:28:38):
Why can't I be on the chaser?

Speaker 5 (01:28:40):
What?

Speaker 2 (01:28:40):
What's the tell? They must have made a television program
for something as stupid as that. Anyway, I do find
it hard to believe that's it, and that's a treat.
And apparently you put them all together, if you put
them all together, and not put them together well.

Speaker 8 (01:28:50):
And the point is that addists are actually putting out
their own versions of their songs faster, they pre mix.

Speaker 2 (01:28:56):
Why don't we do that to the show and we
can be home by ten past seven. It sounds like,
why don't we do that?

Speaker 24 (01:29:01):
Good Bye, come Baye, Come bye, Evy Dice three days, Happy.

Speaker 3 (01:29:06):
Days, yemmen.

Speaker 1 (01:29:15):
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