Mike's Minute: My take on the c-word debate

First, a small update on what I said yesterday on pay equity. 

My gut says it won't damage the Government. 

Don’t get me wrong – if I was the opposition I would be prosecuting this as hard as I could, the way they are, because they have a genuine issue and ongoing issue, at least until the Budget, that they quite rightly believe is there for the taking in terms of points, headlines, and moral high ground. 

I don’t think that ultimately is true. But I fully get they think it is. 

The tide turned yesterday though in Question Time. Not because Brooke van Velden dropped the c-word. 

Watching it live, it was quite the moment. Question Time has become dour, there is limited talent on display, and the Speaker is cantankerous and ruins the fun. 

But yesterday was alive with frisson. Brooke van Veldon's mic drop moment was pointing out that Jan Tinetti, the questioner, a former Woman's minister, a woman who railed against misogyny, was using misogyny by quoting a misogynistic article, authored by a woman to make her point. 

That led to applause and rightly so. 

It further exposed the Labour Party, and in fact most of the opposition benches, as frauds who are arguing the pay equity issue using bogus material and fake facts. 

The more this is debated the more hope you have that a wider grouping of us will tune in and get into the detail, because it is in the detail the truth lies. The equity laws, or rules, were a shambles and being milked by unions. 

But the tide turned because there seems genuine anger within the Government over what Andrea Vance was allowed to do. 

When I say allowed, I assume she is edited and therefore cleared. 

The odd thing for me is I struggle to get upset at being attacked. 

Being a public figure, you are open for this sort of stuff, and I have received more than most. It's water off a duck's back, especially from an angsty journalist. 

But van Veldon, Collins and, as Vance calls them, the "hype squad" seem genuinely outraged and it is that outrage that turned, or at least will turn, the dial. 

If they argue on fact, and the other side argue on emotion using lies, bogus material, and foul language, they will eventually lose. 

Hence the dent so many thought was coming for the Government will never arrive. 

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:00):
Small update on what I said this time yesterday on
pay equity see my gut says and upset it a
couple of times. Now. This isn't going to damage the government. Now,
Don't get me wrong. If I was the opposition, I'd
be prosecuting this as hard as it possibly could the
way they are, in fact, because they have a genuine
issue and ongoing issue at least until the budget that
they quite rightly believe is there for the taking in

(00:21):
terms of points and headlines and moral high ground. Now
I don't think that ultimately is true, but I fully
get that they think it is. The tide though turned
yesterday in Question Time, not because Brook van Velden dropped
the sea word. Watching it live, it really was quite
the moment. Question Time has become dour. As I said
earlier on in the program, there's limited talent in the
House these days, and the speaker's cantankerous and ruins the fund.

(00:43):
But yesterday was alive with freshan. Van Velden's might drop
moment was in fact pointing out that Jantinetti, the questioner,
a former woman's minister, a woman who railed against misogyny,
was using misogyny by quoting a misogynistic cart authored by
a woman to make her point. That led to applause

(01:04):
and rightly soa and further exposed the Labour Party and
in fact most of the Opposition benches as frauds who
are arguing the pay equity issue using bogus material and
fake facts. The more this is debated, the more hope
you have that a wider grouping of us will tune
in and get into the detail, because it's in the
detail the truth lies, and the truth is the equity
laws or rules were a shambles and being milked by unions,

(01:26):
an example of which was just given on this program
a couple of moments ago. But the tide turned also
are because there seems genuine anger within the government over
what Andrea Vantce was allowed to do. And when I
say aloud, I assume she's edited and therefore cleared. The
odd thing for me is I struggle to get upset
at being attacked. I mean, being a public figure, you
are open for this sort of stuff, and I've received
more than most its water off a duck's back, especially

(01:47):
from an angsty journalist Van Velden Collins and as Vance
calls them, the hype squad seem though, and you saw
this yesterday, seem genuinely outraged. And it's that outrage that
turned or at least will don the dial. If they
argue on fact and the other side continue to argue
on emotion using Li's bogus material and foul language, they

(02:08):
will eventually lose. Hints the dent that so many thought
was coming for the government will never arrive. For more
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