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July 22, 2025 2 mins

What do you reckon happened at the big butter meeting? 

Willis and Hurrell. Nicola and Miles. 

Is it a meeting that took on a hopeless amount of hype, or was it a sign that at times this Government, and Willis in particular, say stuff that makes them look like they are on to it when perhaps they're not? 

The reality is these two meet regularly. Fonterra plays an outsized roll in our economy and therefore it would be odd if they didn’t meet. 

But Nicola has this penchant for saying stuff that might lead you to believe she could produce an Uzi out of her handbag and blitz the room. 

She has the banks, who she keeps telling us are people we should not be locked in a dark room with. 

She has the supermarkets who, in her Clouseau-type way, suggests she has been ferreting about the isles and has found dastardly deeds. 

Jacinda had the same predilection when she told us the petrol companies were "fleecing us". 

It's all good stuff for headlines and attention. It's very good guy/bad guy, and if hot air were rocket fuel she could have flown to the moon and back six times. 

But is your butter any more affordable? 

Of course not, and in that is the problem – not with the price, but with Nicola. 

Wouldn’t it be fantastic if there was a scandal, or a rip-off, or some highway robbery? Wouldn’t it be awesome if she could tie a butter producer to a chair and waterboard them until they screamed out "yes, yes, yes it's true, the real price is only $3.76 not $8.50". 

Sadly, it isn't going to happen. 

Presumably, as if she needed it, Miles worked her through the calculations at last night's meeting. 

We pay the global price for butter, the irony being in this case that’s actually good news because dairy in general is booming and we need something to boom. 

What we would like to do versus what we have to do, for good reason, are two separate things. That's why butter is the price it is. 

The real question for Nicola is how many meetings, threats and finger waggles does she have to produce for no change before someone calls her out for being a lot of mouth and not a lot of trouser?

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
How what do you reckon happen? You know at the
Button meeting Willison, Hurrel, Nikola and Miles. Is it a
meeting that took on a hopeless amount of hype or
was it a sign that at times this government and
Willison particular, says stuff that makes them look like they're
onto it when perhaps they're not. Are the reality in

(00:21):
these well they meet regularly Fonterra plays an outside's role
in our economy, and therefore it would be odd if
they didn't. But Nicola has this ponchean don't you think
of saying stuff that might lead you to believe she
could produce an oozy out of a handbag and blitz
the room. She has the banks, who she keeps telling
us of people we should not be locked in a
dark room with. She has the supermarkets, who, in her

(00:42):
Cluseau type way, suggest she's been ferreting about the aisles
and has found dastardly deeds. Jacinda had the same predilection
when she told us the petrol companies were quote unquote
fleecing us. It's all good stuff for headlines and attention.
Of course, it's very good, good guy, bad guy stuff.
If hot air were rocket fuel. She could have fled
under the moon and back six times. But is your

(01:02):
butter anymore affordable? Of course not, And in that is
the problem, not with the price, but with Nicola. Wouldn't
it be fantastic if there was a scandal or a
ripoff or some highway robbery. Wouldn't it be awesome if
she could tie a butter producer to a chair and
water board them until they screamed yes, yes, yes, it's true.
The real price is only three seventy six, not eight fifty. Sadly,

(01:24):
you know what, it's not gonna happen. And presumably as
if she needed it, Miles worked her through the calculations
at last night's meeting. We pay for butter the global
price the iron being. In this case, that's actually good
news because dairy in general is booming, and we need
something to boom for goodness sake. What we would like
to do versus what we have to do for good

(01:46):
reason are two separate things. That's why butter is the
price it is. The real question for Niccola is how
many meetings, threats and finger waggles does she have to
produce for no change before someone calls her out for
being a lot of mouth and not a lot of trouser.
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