There’s more uncertainty about who will be and won't be included in Donald Trump's upcoming agricultural tariffs.
Here in New Zealand, we're still in the dark about whether we'll receive an exemption for things like our growing exports of hamburger meat.
Over in Australia, analysts believe they're very unlikely to get an exemption.
Correspondent Murray Olds told Mike Hosking US farm lobbyists are accusing Australia of creating an unequal trading relationship – something Australia disputes.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Right Australia Bau Murray Old's good morning. Why don't we
just wanting.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
To think my big ear knock out the line for
split second? S I do a publicize good morning?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Do you now the four point one? I'm just talking
about the unemployment rate when you look at it, you know,
juxtaposed against the election campaign, which is sort of in
at the moment. Do people feel good about the economy
or not?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No, absolutely not, Mike. It is still the overriding number
one issue for people. We go into the ballot box
and they are going to be thinking about the price
of groceries, the price of petrol, getting kids through school,
and paying off the mortgage because interest rates are crippling.
There's no doubt about that. And the fact that fifty
thousand jobs plus were lost from the economy in February
(00:42):
is very disturbing. I mean, you know, they it was
balanced out because a lot of people stopped looking or
actually retired, which is interesting. We've got a big, a
very big boomer cohort that is retiring is the year
as the years unfold, So we lost fifty two thousand,
eight hundred jobs in February. People just said, sorry, we
(01:03):
have to say goodbye, we can't afford to keep you on.
And this will contribute to the answer. As we leaded
the election, which, as you say, the election campaigns well
and truly under waves. Haven't got a date yet.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Because I was watching Charmers give a speech. In fact,
a couple of things happened. There were people, you know,
protests and stuff like that. Anyway, the point beings he's
got a massive deficit and Albanese is out there promising
more support to go to the doctor. Do people understand
that one you don't have any money to a government
that offers you freebies to go to the doctor is
(01:35):
paid for by money you don't have, and it's not
the sign of a strong economy and they're just trying
to buy your vote or they don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Look, I think a bit of both, to be honest.
A lot of people just think, you know what, if
I can get the kids to the doctor, great, If
I can get government up with that, great. They don't
think beyond that. Other people say like you, yeah, we
have to borrow this money. But look, both sides are
involved in the spender fion crazy, you know, spending cash
we don't have in a desperate attempt to buy votes
(02:06):
ahead of the election. And that's that's as stark as
it can be. The government promises, as you say, cheaper
visits of the doctor, much cheaper medicines, earning the potential
wrath of Donald Trump and American drug manufacturers. Peter Dutton
falls into lockstep. They're exactly the same, promising on the
never never, promising on tech effectively, and no one seems
(02:29):
to care less.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Weird just speak him, dont three the citizenship test to
test for your anti Semitism? What literally do you ask somebody?
And if you are anti Semitic, aren't you alerted to
the fact that that could be a bit of a
trick question and you might make up something.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh mate, it's just a dog's breakfast. I mean, this
is classic Peter Dutton. I mean, and I know you
think I'll keep bagging him, but I mean, look, he
threw this out to appeal to the conservative voters of Australia.
It was a thought bubble, said the Alberanzi that were
blown up by lunchtime because because Peter Dutton's shadow Attorney
(03:06):
General came out and said it would only be an
absolute last resort. Well, I mean, what does it all mean?
It means nothing is there's no meat on that particular bone.
It's just a buddy, you old chicken bone. He's tossed
out there for the vast right wing populist to slaver
over as they contemplate. You know, a second or third
larte at the Lmond Latte as well at the very
(03:27):
groovy inter city cafes.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Have you ever heard one? By the way, you're still
you're a barista, a trained barrista.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I am, indeed, mate.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Have you have you ever heard of a coffee machine
called a slayer?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I have not look it up today. If you get
a chance, someone, No, No, I can't afford one. But
it's made by the you know, you know Larch and Bali. Yes,
I did, right, So the Larch and Bali family make
them handmake them in Seattle and Washington, and they are
the most beautiful machine. And apparently that they if you
(04:00):
want to spend all your pension, they are the machine
to get. But they look them up today and tell
me it's not the greatest thing you've ever seen. By
the way, the polling I was reading this week for
the Independence Now this is interesting. I don't know you
guys have had the debate yet, so you get a
minority government, the balance of powers held by these independents.
The polling says people want to know which way they're
going to side before they vote, which is a not
(04:23):
unreasonable request. We've been through it because of course we
have MMP. I don't think you have, have you And
most people came back seventy percent of the various electorates
said we want to know now, are they going to
cough and tell you or not?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I wouldn't think so. I think the independence You know,
we've had a bunch of them in the last federal
parliament and there's a lot of them at state level
too now and they have been you know, derisively dubbed
the teals because that sort of greens but not quite green.
The fact of the matter is you will and they're
all women, and if you diss these women, you do
(04:57):
at your political peril because they are a substantial block
and chances are they could get bigger at this election.
And always talk about we need to know where you're
going to stand. Bugger off, we'll tell you. And the
same as Peter Dutton says, I'm going to have nuclear
power as part of our Akay, tell us, tell us
about it, tell us how much is going to cost?
When's it going to happen? He's saying, hang on a second,
(05:17):
bugger off, I'll tell you. You know when it's time
to drop this policy. They're not going to tell. I mean,
we know which way they go. They're worried about every
one of these teals is worried about the environment, worried
about climate change, worried about cost of living for families,
trying to get to the doctor, trying to pay for
the groceries. They are the three big ticket items on
their list. That's what you're going to get. And if
(05:38):
you boat them.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Back in get your guess is those live just real quick?
This beef scrap because I think this may or may
not apply to us. So suddenly the American farmer's eyeballing you. Guys.
You sell a lot of beef to America. They're not
allowed to sell a lot of beef to you, They argue,
because of all your red tape and the rules you
keep inventing. Is that true? And if it is true,
(06:00):
are you in trouble terriff wise?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, it could be, It could be, but it just
depends you know who's getting in Trump's ear about tariffs
because the pharmaceutical manufacturer a furious with Australia as well
beef manufacturers too. Australia says, we've got a clean beef
industry here. We don't need all the antibiotics you shoven
to American beef. We don't want that here. Australia. The
federal government buys up tons and tons and tons of
(06:22):
American pharmaceuticals and uses its government muscle to drive down
the cost of those of those pharmaceuticals, passes them on
to Australian consumers Mike as subsidies subsidized medicines. So in
both of these cases, American beef produces American manufact the
manufacturer of American pharmaceuticals. They're saying to Donald Trump's tariff people, listen,
punish Australia on this, because Australia is denying US access
(06:46):
to high priced medicines and access to beef. Well, Australia
is not going to blink and exactly the same as
I mentioned before, Peter Dutton and lockstep with Anthony Albanezi
on this. So we have to see which way the
tariff mop flops. I must say super interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Might always a pleasure to have you on the program.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Can you find it?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Murray olds across the Tessman.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
Right Australia Bau Murray Old's good morning. Why don't we
just wanting.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
To think my big ear knock out the line for
split second? S I do a publicize good morning?
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Do you now the four point one? I'm just talking
about the unemployment rate when you look at it, you know,
juxtaposed against the election campaign, which is sort of in
at the moment. Do people feel good about the economy
or not?
Speaker 2 (00:19):
No, absolutely not, Mike. It is still the overriding number
one issue for people. We go into the ballot box
and they are going to be thinking about the price
of groceries, the price of petrol, getting kids through school,
and paying off the mortgage because interest rates are crippling.
There's no doubt about that. And the fact that fifty
thousand jobs plus were lost from the economy in February
(00:42):
is very disturbing. I mean, you know, they it was
balanced out because a lot of people stopped looking or
actually retired, which is interesting. We've got a big, a
very big boomer cohort that is retiring is the year
as the years unfold, So we lost fifty two thousand,
eight hundred jobs in February. People just said, sorry, we
(01:03):
have to say goodbye, we can't afford to keep you on.
And this will contribute to the answer. As we leaded
the election, which, as you say, the election campaigns well
and truly under waves. Haven't got a date yet.
Speaker 1 (01:13):
Because I was watching Charmers give a speech. In fact,
a couple of things happened. There were people, you know,
protests and stuff like that. Anyway, the point beings he's
got a massive deficit and Albanese is out there promising
more support to go to the doctor. Do people understand
that one you don't have any money to a government
that offers you freebies to go to the doctor is
(01:35):
paid for by money you don't have, and it's not
the sign of a strong economy and they're just trying
to buy your vote or they don't care.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Look, I think a bit of both, to be honest.
A lot of people just think, you know what, if
I can get the kids to the doctor, great, If
I can get government up with that, great. They don't
think beyond that. Other people say like you, yeah, we
have to borrow this money. But look, both sides are
involved in the spender fion crazy, you know, spending cash
we don't have in a desperate attempt to buy votes
(02:06):
ahead of the election. And that's that's as stark as
it can be. The government promises, as you say, cheaper
visits of the doctor, much cheaper medicines, earning the potential
wrath of Donald Trump and American drug manufacturers. Peter Dutton
falls into lockstep. They're exactly the same, promising on the
never never, promising on tech effectively, and no one seems
(02:29):
to care less.
Speaker 1 (02:30):
Weird just speak him, dont three the citizenship test to
test for your anti Semitism? What literally do you ask somebody?
And if you are anti Semitic, aren't you alerted to
the fact that that could be a bit of a
trick question and you might make up something.
Speaker 2 (02:45):
Oh mate, it's just a dog's breakfast. I mean, this
is classic Peter Dutton. I mean, and I know you
think I'll keep bagging him, but I mean, look, he
threw this out to appeal to the conservative voters of Australia.
It was a thought bubble, said the Alberanzi that were
blown up by lunchtime because because Peter Dutton's shadow Attorney
(03:06):
General came out and said it would only be an
absolute last resort. Well, I mean, what does it all mean?
It means nothing is there's no meat on that particular bone.
It's just a buddy, you old chicken bone. He's tossed
out there for the vast right wing populist to slaver
over as they contemplate. You know, a second or third
larte at the Lmond Latte as well at the very
(03:27):
groovy inter city cafes.
Speaker 1 (03:29):
Have you ever heard one? By the way, you're still
you're a barista, a trained barrista.
Speaker 2 (03:34):
I am, indeed, mate.
Speaker 1 (03:35):
Have you have you ever heard of a coffee machine
called a slayer?
Speaker 2 (03:39):
No?
Speaker 1 (03:39):
I have not look it up today. If you get
a chance, someone, No, No, I can't afford one. But
it's made by the you know, you know Larch and Bali. Yes,
I did, right, So the Larch and Bali family make
them handmake them in Seattle and Washington, and they are
the most beautiful machine. And apparently that they if you
(04:00):
want to spend all your pension, they are the machine
to get. But they look them up today and tell
me it's not the greatest thing you've ever seen. By
the way, the polling I was reading this week for
the Independence Now this is interesting. I don't know you
guys have had the debate yet, so you get a
minority government, the balance of powers held by these independents.
The polling says people want to know which way they're
going to side before they vote, which is a not
(04:23):
unreasonable request. We've been through it because of course we
have MMP. I don't think you have, have you And
most people came back seventy percent of the various electorates
said we want to know now, are they going to
cough and tell you or not?
Speaker 2 (04:36):
I wouldn't think so. I think the independence You know,
we've had a bunch of them in the last federal
parliament and there's a lot of them at state level
too now and they have been you know, derisively dubbed
the teals because that sort of greens but not quite green.
The fact of the matter is you will and they're
all women, and if you diss these women, you do
(04:57):
at your political peril because they are a substantial block
and chances are they could get bigger at this election.
And always talk about we need to know where you're
going to stand. Bugger off, we'll tell you. And the
same as Peter Dutton says, I'm going to have nuclear
power as part of our Akay, tell us, tell us
about it, tell us how much is going to cost?
When's it going to happen? He's saying, hang on a second,
(05:17):
bugger off, I'll tell you. You know when it's time
to drop this policy. They're not going to tell. I mean,
we know which way they go. They're worried about every
one of these teals is worried about the environment, worried
about climate change, worried about cost of living for families,
trying to get to the doctor, trying to pay for
the groceries. They are the three big ticket items on
their list. That's what you're going to get. And if
(05:38):
you boat them.
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Back in get your guess is those live just real quick?
This beef scrap because I think this may or may
not apply to us. So suddenly the American farmer's eyeballing you. Guys.
You sell a lot of beef to America. They're not
allowed to sell a lot of beef to you, They argue,
because of all your red tape and the rules you
keep inventing. Is that true? And if it is true,
(06:00):
are you in trouble terriff wise?
Speaker 2 (06:02):
Well, it could be, It could be, but it just
depends you know who's getting in Trump's ear about tariffs
because the pharmaceutical manufacturer a furious with Australia as well
beef manufacturers too. Australia says, we've got a clean beef
industry here. We don't need all the antibiotics you shoven
to American beef. We don't want that here. Australia. The
federal government buys up tons and tons and tons of
(06:22):
American pharmaceuticals and uses its government muscle to drive down
the cost of those of those pharmaceuticals, passes them on
to Australian consumers Mike as subsidies subsidized medicines. So in
both of these cases, American beef produces American manufact the
manufacturer of American pharmaceuticals. They're saying to Donald Trump's tariff people, listen,
punish Australia on this, because Australia is denying US access
(06:46):
to high priced medicines and access to beef. Well, Australia
is not going to blink and exactly the same as
I mentioned before, Peter Dutton and lockstep with Anthony Albanezi
on this. So we have to see which way the
tariff mop flops. I must say super interesting.
Speaker 1 (07:00):
Might always a pleasure to have you on the program.
Speaker 2 (07:02):
Can you find it?
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Murray olds across the Tessman.
Speaker 2 (07:05):
For more from The Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio
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