Politicians aren’t worrying too much about the latest poll results.
There were starkly different results in the latest RNZ-Reid Research poll and 1News-Verian poll – with the first showing the left bloc in the lead and the second showing the right bloc well ahead.
Labour’s Ginny Andersen told Mike Hosking the polls bounce around, so they don’t take them to heart that much.
She says in general, Labour is gradually trending upwards but they know they have more work to do, which is what they’ve been taking from the polls.
National’s Mark Mitchell told Hosking he doesn’t take much notice of them, as what matters is what happens next year heading into the election.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Mark Mitchell and Jinny Anderson are with us guys morning morning.
Do the polls mean anything to you, Ginny? I mean
there's one out in radio in New Zealand this morning,
there's one out last night, and one used you guys
are down a bit, or you might be up a
boot or you could have gone. So I don't know.
I mean, just does anyone sit around in a caucus
that don't go, I'll what are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well? They're pretty well. I mean it shows you pretty volatile.
They bounce around, so you don't take them to heart
that much. But I mean the general trenders that we've
been gradually going up and we know that we've got
more work to do, So yeah, I think that's what
you take from it generally.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What do you take Mark that the trending down I
always have.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I don't take, but I don't I always have a
look at them. I don't take much notice of them.
I mean, it's what matters is next year when we
go into the election.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Do you think And I wonder if somebody put the
theory to me earlier on, I wonder if there's something
and that that broadly speaking, we might be seeing an
evolution of MMP where some of these smaller parties you're
acting in New Zealand first, perhaps the Mary Parties, certainly
the Greens are becoming entrenched in a way you remember
not Jenny, not so long ago that you know, the
(01:12):
Greens were probably there, but New Zealand first might not
be your act might not be you know what I'm saying,
Whereas now the minor parties seem to be permanent fixtures.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, I think you have seen under this government that
those minor parties have been very strong in their presence
and their voice, and at sometimes I think it detracts
from the leadership of the prime.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
How long we're going to keep doing this?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, we lost Jenny.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's Jenny, So Jenny, so you you normally you normally
mark the problem. But the smaller yeah, yeah, yeah, carry on.
I mean so before that, but the general you know,
smaller parties are permanent.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So at the last election you saw that that we
had the Mary Party, Greens Act in New Zealand first
come in. They've pretty well held their support where it's at.
They've got they've always got people that support them and
you know, and it's in that's been a consistent trend.
You know right throughout this term.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Do you reckon? They're all good, aren't they? I mean,
act are good for fire, plus, Greens are good for fire.
Plus the Maori Party will win some seats no matter
how many they are, and they're here to stay. And
so what all I'm saying is that detracts to it, agree,
from the major party support. You guys used to be
high thirties or forties. I wonder of those days and
(02:28):
are not gone.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes, so look you've probably done more than analysis and
I here, but yes, I think generally speaking, you're writers
that the major parties will lose a bit of support
when those minor parties become stronger and have a stronger base.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You do need to look at that margin of era though,
so that that that can actually mean the existence of
a party or not as often the margin of era,
so you do have to look at it over a
period of time to see how it's tracking.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Thomas Coglan wrote a piece the other day Jenny, welcome back.
By the way, I hope you didn't put yourself on hold.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, the one was ringing me, good, one was bringing me.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Can you tell Kieran. Tell Kieran, you get the advice
and the ad break not not while you're on here,
Markey this advice you were getting on run it Straight?
Have you got any advice on run it straight? And
what is the advice? What are you going to do
about it or anything?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, So the advice is that obviously if someone decides
to hold a run at straight event at their home,
private address, is not much the gunment shouldn't be getting
involved in that. That's that's an any state. But we
are going back and sportings. It's working with the i
A and looking at the legislation around combat sports to
see whether we can update that so that if there's
(03:39):
run it Straight events that have been hold publicly at
public events, that there's some rules put around them.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, when are you doing that and how long are
you doing that? Isn't Isn't that a bunch of nanny
state anyway?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, that's happening at the moment in terms of what
they're looking at. Brooklyn and Velden's doing some work around
that legislation at the moment and updating it around it.
That's very very old. It's about thirty or forty years old.
Around how we how combat sports are actually regulated. So
it's time that it was done. And with these other
sports sort of emerging, we can include those.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
What would you do, Jimmy, Well, I've thought's lost the
family but unsatisfaate And I thought that was I mean,
I was driving around and listening to the radio and
hearing people warning not to do this, and it was
dangerous and it was not a.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Good, good idea. And in the next was that someone
had lost their life. So you know, I'm just just
you know, terrible to think that people are hid on
running at each other. And he's considered the best.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But did you see Ardie Savilla? I did?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right, So he he and his brother did their whole
lives and he said that's what made me the player
I am. And his nickname is Bus And why do
you think he's called Bus?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah? And it's consuming that those messages are being given
to young people because I think for someone who's not
like a bus and they get rended by someone like
a bust, can they faith?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
But let's not move away from person responsibility and common
sense here. And you know, like I know that every
Christmas we got to Mindi's place and we have a
game of bull Rush.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We love it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Still, you know you don't want to go Yeah, still,
you don't want the governmentating. We do the egg throwing
competition and we have a game of tiger Ward. It's
good fun. And you don't want the government coming. And
you don't want the government busting into your property and
telling you what you can and can't do. You've got
to use a bit of common sense and there's a
bit of personal responsibility that contradicted yourself. Yeah, you're regulating,
(05:30):
I said, no, I said public events. I said, I
said publicly run events. I clearly said what people do
in their own homes and their own properties is up
to them. I said, publicly run events.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Do you are you doing yourself a bit of a
hole here, Mark, Because I mean you look at Bunty
r Fower or you know, Fisher Harris at the Warriors
and they run up straight and they run smack into somebody.
That's an organized event. It's called professional sport. You're allowing that.
And yet all of a sudden, if I wanted to
do something, you're not allowing me to do it because
the same events, you know, the same eventuality.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We're not saying We're not saying not allowing anyone to
do anything. We're saying that it needs to be regulated.
That's what I'm saying. There's got to be rules. We
have combat sports, we're boxing, we have you know, but
we regulate them. There's rules around them. There's there's things
that do that you have to do around safety.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, Mark, did you go all right? Yesterday? Sitting next
to New Zealand? First, I noticed a question time.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Which is always very it's always very entertaining.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Who were you next to because you were right down
to the end of nationally. Oh you're next to Shane. No,
he's not entertain Jenny, were you around when they apparently
delivered a petition yesterday for fireworks and it had some
animals that had signed, And I'm just what are the
rules around petitions? It's claimed that animals signed a petition.
That can't be real obviously, so therefore what do you
(06:48):
do with a petition?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, maybe they don't count the dog they signed.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, I don't know. I think it was auto pen
It's Biden all over again, right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think you do have to be of voting age
or of a certain age. Don't ask me what executive
it is, and I think you do have to be
a human. There are fun rules in there. Yea.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think people I think some people identify as cats
and things near.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That is true, Mark. I just worry about people doing
petitions and stuff. Is there any mood in the political
atmosphere jinny to actually do anything about fireworks or the
way we have it at the moment is about where
it is.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It's been that like Mark for women, but like since
I've been an imp, it comes up every year. So
but there seems to be a general trend to moving
into big displays. As a local imp, you get a
lot of particularly horses at Bolton Defenses, you dogs and
cats going missing. So I think people sort of weigh
up what's the benefits? Who says what's the cost of
(07:47):
having them? And I think there is a general view
that the biggest flash displays are safe.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
But no one's no one's banning anything change.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No one's going to ban it because there's a bunch
of people who love, you know, sitting in fire and
stuff in the backyard and doing it. No one should
have taken me.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Do you when you're doing your tug of Walmart? Do
you set off a few Catherine wheels as well.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
No, But I do remember when I was a kid,
I loved being out at the backyard. The neighbors had
come over and there would set a couple of Catherine
wheels up. It was cool.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I just think that. I just think I've got I
have got a rural part of my community and fireworks
in the royal community do not work. They do put
horses through fences. And the problem is is that pet
owners can plan around if we're having fireworks on one
day year, but there's fire weeks now used right throughout
the year. And actually I was just up in Levin
(08:39):
on the weekend where police officers they had fireworks used
against them, skyrockets namely fired at them.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So I think that, yeah, so in control of that.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think that the boy racing issue has been around
for a while, but what we are doing is we're
enforcing and clamping down on it much harder. So I'm
actually really confident that we're going to start to get
on top of this problem. And of course we've got
some tough legislation coming through that's going to give the
police some additional powers at the moment. It's a moment.
It's a three strike regime, so the boy racers need
(09:12):
to be convicted three times. That takes a long time
to get to that point. So we getting rid of that,
and basically they'll lose their vehicle on the night and
that's that's gone.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Though like that. But basually that we found because they
worked on that the first time round, was that a
lot of them registered their vehicles to someone else, so
that registructure an auntie or a grandmother or a girlfriend.
So when you go through the process of trying to
confiscate and crush that vehicle, it will depend on how
it's registered to. Poor reason that the last time only
(09:43):
two cars, So.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
There'll be a manifestly unjust clause in the legislation that
will allow if it is appearance car of something like that,
they can make the case. But they are going to
have to be able to make the case. And if
it's clearly them trying to get around it by taking
actions like that and registering it someone else's name.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's been crushed.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It's gone.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
It's crushed, gone.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
All right, you guys. Oh, by the way, Jinny, have
you read Yoursiner's book yet? I Have you got a
copy of it?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Have you know?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Do you get a signed Do you get a signed
copy of it?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I don't think i'd do it. I could ask for one,
would you like one?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Do you need a doorstop?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Nice to see you too, Mark Mitchell, Jitney Anderson.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
For more from The mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Mark Mitchell and Jinny Anderson are with us guys morning morning.
Do the polls mean anything to you, Ginny? I mean
there's one out in radio in New Zealand this morning,
there's one out last night, and one used you guys
are down a bit, or you might be up a
boot or you could have gone. So I don't know.
I mean, just does anyone sit around in a caucus
that don't go, I'll what are we going to do?
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Well? They're pretty well. I mean it shows you pretty volatile.
They bounce around, so you don't take them to heart
that much. But I mean the general trenders that we've
been gradually going up and we know that we've got
more work to do, So yeah, I think that's what
you take from it generally.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
What do you take Mark that the trending down I
always have.
Speaker 3 (00:45):
I don't take, but I don't I always have a
look at them. I don't take much notice of them.
I mean, it's what matters is next year when we
go into the election.
Speaker 1 (00:52):
Do you think And I wonder if somebody put the
theory to me earlier on, I wonder if there's something
and that that broadly speaking, we might be seeing an
evolution of MMP where some of these smaller parties you're
acting in New Zealand first, perhaps the Mary Parties, certainly
the Greens are becoming entrenched in a way you remember
not Jenny, not so long ago that you know, the
(01:12):
Greens were probably there, but New Zealand first might not
be your act might not be you know what I'm saying,
Whereas now the minor parties seem to be permanent fixtures.
Speaker 2 (01:20):
Well, I think you have seen under this government that
those minor parties have been very strong in their presence
and their voice, and at sometimes I think it detracts
from the leadership of the prime.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
How long we're going to keep doing this?
Speaker 3 (01:35):
Well, we lost Jenny.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
It's Jenny, So Jenny, so you you normally you normally
mark the problem. But the smaller yeah, yeah, yeah, carry on.
I mean so before that, but the general you know,
smaller parties are permanent.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
So at the last election you saw that that we
had the Mary Party, Greens Act in New Zealand first
come in. They've pretty well held their support where it's at.
They've got they've always got people that support them and
you know, and it's in that's been a consistent trend.
You know right throughout this term.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
Do you reckon? They're all good, aren't they? I mean,
act are good for fire, plus, Greens are good for fire.
Plus the Maori Party will win some seats no matter
how many they are, and they're here to stay. And
so what all I'm saying is that detracts to it, agree,
from the major party support. You guys used to be
high thirties or forties. I wonder of those days and
(02:28):
are not gone.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
Yes, so look you've probably done more than analysis and
I here, but yes, I think generally speaking, you're writers
that the major parties will lose a bit of support
when those minor parties become stronger and have a stronger base.
Speaker 1 (02:40):
I agree with you.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
You do need to look at that margin of era though,
so that that that can actually mean the existence of
a party or not as often the margin of era,
so you do have to look at it over a
period of time to see how it's tracking.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Thomas Coglan wrote a piece the other day Jenny, welcome back.
By the way, I hope you didn't put yourself on hold.
Speaker 2 (02:56):
Yeah, the one was ringing me, good, one was bringing me.
Speaker 1 (03:00):
Can you tell Kieran. Tell Kieran, you get the advice
and the ad break not not while you're on here,
Markey this advice you were getting on run it Straight?
Have you got any advice on run it straight? And
what is the advice? What are you going to do
about it or anything?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
Yeah, So the advice is that obviously if someone decides
to hold a run at straight event at their home,
private address, is not much the gunment shouldn't be getting
involved in that. That's that's an any state. But we
are going back and sportings. It's working with the i
A and looking at the legislation around combat sports to
see whether we can update that so that if there's
(03:39):
run it Straight events that have been hold publicly at
public events, that there's some rules put around them.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Okay, when are you doing that and how long are
you doing that? Isn't Isn't that a bunch of nanny
state anyway?
Speaker 3 (03:50):
No, that's happening at the moment in terms of what
they're looking at. Brooklyn and Velden's doing some work around
that legislation at the moment and updating it around it.
That's very very old. It's about thirty or forty years old.
Around how we how combat sports are actually regulated. So
it's time that it was done. And with these other
sports sort of emerging, we can include those.
Speaker 4 (04:11):
What would you do, Jimmy, Well, I've thought's lost the
family but unsatisfaate And I thought that was I mean,
I was driving around and listening to the radio and
hearing people warning not to do this, and it was
dangerous and it was not a.
Speaker 2 (04:23):
Good, good idea. And in the next was that someone
had lost their life. So you know, I'm just just
you know, terrible to think that people are hid on
running at each other. And he's considered the best.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
But did you see Ardie Savilla? I did?
Speaker 2 (04:37):
Yeah?
Speaker 1 (04:38):
Right, So he he and his brother did their whole
lives and he said that's what made me the player
I am. And his nickname is Bus And why do
you think he's called Bus?
Speaker 2 (04:47):
Yeah? And it's consuming that those messages are being given
to young people because I think for someone who's not
like a bus and they get rended by someone like
a bust, can they faith?
Speaker 3 (04:58):
But let's not move away from person responsibility and common
sense here. And you know, like I know that every
Christmas we got to Mindi's place and we have a
game of bull Rush.
Speaker 2 (05:06):
We love it.
Speaker 3 (05:07):
Still, you know you don't want to go Yeah, still,
you don't want the governmentating. We do the egg throwing
competition and we have a game of tiger Ward. It's
good fun. And you don't want the government coming. And
you don't want the government busting into your property and
telling you what you can and can't do. You've got
to use a bit of common sense and there's a
bit of personal responsibility that contradicted yourself. Yeah, you're regulating,
(05:30):
I said, no, I said public events. I said, I
said publicly run events. I clearly said what people do
in their own homes and their own properties is up
to them. I said, publicly run events.
Speaker 1 (05:41):
Do you are you doing yourself a bit of a
hole here, Mark, Because I mean you look at Bunty
r Fower or you know, Fisher Harris at the Warriors
and they run up straight and they run smack into somebody.
That's an organized event. It's called professional sport. You're allowing that.
And yet all of a sudden, if I wanted to
do something, you're not allowing me to do it because
the same events, you know, the same eventuality.
Speaker 3 (06:00):
We're not saying We're not saying not allowing anyone to
do anything. We're saying that it needs to be regulated.
That's what I'm saying. There's got to be rules. We
have combat sports, we're boxing, we have you know, but
we regulate them. There's rules around them. There's there's things
that do that you have to do around safety.
Speaker 1 (06:15):
Okay, Mark, did you go all right? Yesterday? Sitting next
to New Zealand? First, I noticed a question time.
Speaker 3 (06:24):
Which is always very it's always very entertaining.
Speaker 1 (06:27):
Who were you next to because you were right down
to the end of nationally. Oh you're next to Shane. No,
he's not entertain Jenny, were you around when they apparently
delivered a petition yesterday for fireworks and it had some
animals that had signed, And I'm just what are the
rules around petitions? It's claimed that animals signed a petition.
That can't be real obviously, so therefore what do you
(06:48):
do with a petition?
Speaker 2 (06:50):
Well, maybe they don't count the dog they signed.
Speaker 1 (06:54):
Well, I don't know. I think it was auto pen
It's Biden all over again, right.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
I think you do have to be of voting age
or of a certain age. Don't ask me what executive
it is, and I think you do have to be
a human. There are fun rules in there. Yea.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
I think people I think some people identify as cats
and things near.
Speaker 1 (07:10):
That is true, Mark. I just worry about people doing
petitions and stuff. Is there any mood in the political
atmosphere jinny to actually do anything about fireworks or the
way we have it at the moment is about where
it is.
Speaker 2 (07:25):
It's been that like Mark for women, but like since
I've been an imp, it comes up every year. So
but there seems to be a general trend to moving
into big displays. As a local imp, you get a
lot of particularly horses at Bolton Defenses, you dogs and
cats going missing. So I think people sort of weigh
up what's the benefits? Who says what's the cost of
(07:47):
having them? And I think there is a general view
that the biggest flash displays are safe.
Speaker 1 (07:52):
But no one's no one's banning anything change.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
No one's going to ban it because there's a bunch
of people who love, you know, sitting in fire and
stuff in the backyard and doing it. No one should
have taken me.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Do you.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Do you when you're doing your tug of Walmart? Do
you set off a few Catherine wheels as well.
Speaker 4 (08:07):
What do you do?
Speaker 3 (08:10):
No, But I do remember when I was a kid,
I loved being out at the backyard. The neighbors had
come over and there would set a couple of Catherine
wheels up. It was cool.
Speaker 4 (08:17):
There you go.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
I just think that. I just think I've got I
have got a rural part of my community and fireworks
in the royal community do not work. They do put
horses through fences. And the problem is is that pet
owners can plan around if we're having fireworks on one
day year, but there's fire weeks now used right throughout
the year. And actually I was just up in Levin
(08:39):
on the weekend where police officers they had fireworks used
against them, skyrockets namely fired at them.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
So I think that, yeah, so in control of that.
Speaker 4 (08:51):
No.
Speaker 3 (08:52):
I think that the boy racing issue has been around
for a while, but what we are doing is we're
enforcing and clamping down on it much harder. So I'm
actually really confident that we're going to start to get
on top of this problem. And of course we've got
some tough legislation coming through that's going to give the
police some additional powers at the moment. It's a moment.
It's a three strike regime, so the boy racers need
(09:12):
to be convicted three times. That takes a long time
to get to that point. So we getting rid of that,
and basically they'll lose their vehicle on the night and
that's that's gone.
Speaker 2 (09:21):
Though like that. But basually that we found because they
worked on that the first time round, was that a
lot of them registered their vehicles to someone else, so
that registructure an auntie or a grandmother or a girlfriend.
So when you go through the process of trying to
confiscate and crush that vehicle, it will depend on how
it's registered to. Poor reason that the last time only
(09:43):
two cars, So.
Speaker 3 (09:45):
There'll be a manifestly unjust clause in the legislation that
will allow if it is appearance car of something like that,
they can make the case. But they are going to
have to be able to make the case. And if
it's clearly them trying to get around it by taking
actions like that and registering it someone else's name.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
It's been crushed.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
It's gone.
Speaker 3 (10:01):
It's crushed, gone.
Speaker 1 (10:03):
All right, you guys. Oh, by the way, Jinny, have
you read Yoursiner's book yet? I Have you got a
copy of it?
Speaker 2 (10:10):
Have you know?
Speaker 1 (10:12):
Do you get a signed Do you get a signed
copy of it?
Speaker 2 (10:14):
I don't think i'd do it. I could ask for one,
would you like one?
Speaker 3 (10:16):
No?
Speaker 1 (10:17):
I don't.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
Do you need a doorstop?
Speaker 1 (10:23):
Nice to see you too, Mark Mitchell, Jitney Anderson.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
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news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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If you eat, sleep, and breathe true crime, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT is serving up your nightly fix. Five nights a week, KT STUDIOS & iHEART RADIO invite listeners to pull up a seat for an unfiltered look at the biggest cases making headlines, celebrity scandals, and the trials everyone is watching. With a mix of expert analysis, hot takes, and listener call-ins, TRUE CRIME TONIGHT goes beyond the headlines to uncover the twists, turns, and unanswered questions that keep us all obsessed—because, at TRUE CRIME TONIGHT, there’s a seat for everyone. Whether breaking down crime scene forensics, scrutinizing serial killers, or debating the most binge-worthy true crime docs, True Crime Tonight is the fresh, fast-paced, and slightly addictive home for true crime lovers.