It’s been a busy start to the week and Mark Mitchell and Ginny Andersen joined Mike Hosking to delve into some of the biggest topics thus far.
The Government is completely overhauling secondary school qualifications, aiming to completely replace NCEA over five years. Is this a sensible plan?
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
It's time for politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with us along
(00:02):
with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to you too.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey morning, Mike, morning, Jenny.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Now, first of all, I'm just trying to work out
what I start with you, Jinny okay into and no,
I know your answer. Don't give me the I'm not
going to make policy on this program, get I get that,
I understand that. But in general, would you look to
flip the Erica Stanford announcement of this week?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Well, I need to know more about it. So the
main issue I have currently is that it's a really
short consultation period for such a huge overhaul. And to
be honest, my personal view has told Caucus about this.
But what's this AI stuff? Are they going to mark
the papers?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I don't get that, But like AI is going to
do something.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, what about the idea of a certificate versus NCA
four subjects? You've got a part five subjects got to
pass for ABC D and E marketing. I mean, and
that in theory. Does that sit up okay with you guys?
Are you guys going to create some sort of big
fuss that it becomes an election issue.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
We knew there were issues within CEA and taking a
good look at that. But what we don't want to
go back to is the old school system where if
you got under fifty percent, you're a failure and that's that.
So NCAA was trying to make it more workable for
kids to keep progressing and moving. So as long as
(01:26):
we're not retuning to a situation where someone gets under
fifty percent by one mark and their toast. So that's
not going to help anyone. But look, if they're going
to make genuine, constructive improvements that make good vocational options
for kids, of course we'd be always open to discuss that.
My real concern is that six weeks consultation doesn't really
give pearans or students the opportunity to have a decent say,
(01:49):
all right, what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Mark cash Patel. Did you meet him?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, because you're in the room and I thought, hang on,
he's probably met Mark. Talk me through it. Would you go?
Would you go for a year with them?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah? Would Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I'm very good, really focused on getting his if E
E agents sort of back to basics, back out doing
the law enforcement role that they all joined to do,
and obviously really good having him down here and with
the permanent presence now to we talked a lot about
the myth situation globally and how we can work together
on that. Obviously, they've got a much bigger footprint and
(02:24):
better intelligence coming out of South America, which is where
a lot of this myth andmphetamine has been generated from,
and it's having an awful impact on our Pacific countries.
And of course both New Zealand Australia are working to
deal with us as well.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Right, and when Nicholas said she saw a lot of
good looking men in suits, were.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
They good looking as well? She's a far better judge,
She's a far Jason.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
But yeah, of course he's got a security detail with them.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, the foreshore and seabed. Jinny, would you are you
comfortable broadly with what old you know, Justice Minister Goldsmith
is doing or not?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, I don't think it's it's great, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But isn't you going back to twenty eleven And if
you didn't like twenty eleven you could have done something
about it when you're in government, but you didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, the situation is that it wasn't actually causing any
interference with public access and I don't think what he's
done is strengthening the martive crown relationship at all. So
all of those who have been through the court process
are kind of left hanging now.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, not all of those don't.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Well, those who have spent years going through a process,
it's more than those who have actually started the process
as well, who have initiated that process is more than
seven year. So I don't think it actually resolves anything
clearly that helps the martyr crown relationship. What was wrong
with the.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Line that if you if you, if you can prove
to a court or the government or whatever that you've
had access since eighteen forty pretty much uninterrupted, you get
your title. If you don't, you don't. What's wrong with.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
That that there were very few that colonization that were
able to establish that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, and hence therefore you don't want one rule for
based on rates, do you you know? In other words,
of you left it and you didn't do it, you
can't suddenly, you know, one hundred and fifty years later
go oh yeah, we kind of like that place back then.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
But there were many other instances where they had been
contin your customer gathering, where there have been other practices
that were happening, and so we still wanted their ability
to test that right in the courts. So taking that
away didn't really do anything for the Mighty Crown relationship.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sorry, make no, I was just going to say, might
that fools?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Just reinstating the law back to what the intent was
in twenty eleven and it was changed through a court decision.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So how do you handle it? See Mark, and don't
tell me what goes on in cabinet obviously, But I
had Paul on earlier on today and I said, what
have you been doing? I mean, why are you listening
to courts? If you are the court of the land.
You are the highest court of the land, and if
you want to do something, do it. What are we
mucking around for years on ending and being told what
to do courts?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah? Well that's so I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Is that is that you know that once the law
has passed, all legislation has passed by Parliament and the
intent that should be applied by the courts. But the
problem is so that the courts are making their own
interpretations of the law, and that's why we've had in
this case had to go.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But the point I'm saying Judy, though, the point is
you don't have to listen to it. I mean you're
always going to get somebody to go to court to
test and that's fine. But if you're going to get
activist courts, what's the point of a parliament.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well you can flip it the other way too and
say Parliament's going to override everything the courts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, not everything, but the stuff that you as the
duly elected power. I ei, the government's right, you know
you've got that you go to be able to have
some control.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
This goes right into what is I mean you're getting
into law as one or what is a separation of power?
I mean the two In twenty eleven you had National
saying that Malory had their right to test test the
rights in court and they seem to have taken a
different position once the government on all right.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Well, it's it's not a separation of power, is she
at all? Is quite simply the will of the people,
the will of the people.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Talking about the legal doctrine the separation of power, which
is executive judiciary.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But I think Mark, you're arguing more along my lines,
and Paul Goldsmith was struggling with it. He seemed he
seems to be sort of like the court, and he
likes to listen to what the court are saying and
all that sort of stuff. Mark the Sylvie would at
the your were you at the conference over the weekend? Yes,
it was good, buzz.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, it was. That was great, really good conference.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
When Sylvia comes out party president and goes the country,
doesn't see the prime minister's humanity, Does she realize you
probably shouldn't say those things out loud, because that's part
of the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, I thought it was a campaign on. I thought
it was going to be Erica by the end of
the weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Well, we're very we're very lucky to have Sylvie Wood
as our president. And and look she's probably talking and
engineering terms.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He's, you know, the Prime Minister.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
In my view, I consider him a personal friend and
I've got huge admiration for him as a guy that
he didn't really get a hotingmoon.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
He's only in attach, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
And but the fact of the matter is that he
is he is working bloody hard for our country. He
knows what to do and in there are times which
is extremely difficult at the moment with global headwinds we
have there is no one better in my view.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That you should be running the country.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I would expect you to say that, and not only that, Mark,
but I also.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Believe I mean that from my heart.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I know you believe.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I wouldn't say it if I didn't feel.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But when, and this is the problem with Sylvia saying
what she did. When does it translate to a point
where people go, yep, Mark was right and he is
a decent blow. Can I get it?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I just think that if they actually look at them,
if they if they look and see what he's doing
and what he's achieving for us as a country, and
if they and if they actually look at the difficulties
around the world at the moment, the headwinds. I mean,
we are although people aren't feeling it yet, and we
fully acknowledge that we are pulling ourselves out of the
economic mess that these guys that the previous government put
us in. The previous guy's got no plan other than
(07:56):
to text people more.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He's actually doing. He's excellent. A really good.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Kind of waited in there as well. I thought I
read something.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
That was both a good fellow and Sylvia boat saying
stuff that he's not that popular.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's that's completely rubbish. Neither of them said there.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
They were just what the thing is going? Let me
just know it was more. It was just making the
point there that is, popularity isn't strong and trying to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Be when when you've got to tell people, Mark my
point is this, when you've got to tell people something
that should be obvious, you've got a problem. Is the issue.
It's like saying, look, Hosking really is a nice guy. Now,
no one believes that.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
A lot of people. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Sorry, All I was going to say is, look, I've
been lucky in my lifetime to have worked some really
good leaders and limits like you said, Jenny, let me
finish please, I've been really lucky to work with some
great leaders.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I'm telling you now.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Chris pha Luxen as a minister is without a doubt
a great leader and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
He powers this ministers up.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
But I will say this, he expects you deliver results
for the country. We're here delivered results of the country,
and if we don't, then there's some serious conversations exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Some serious conversations, yes, and that's what Let me have
this on this for you, Jinny and it's not a
personal thing. I'm just interested in Megan Wood's giving up
her list seat. Does that work from home vibes? Is
that like can't be bothered? Is that just lazy politics?
Why would you want to just sit there being on
a list if you can be in an electric well.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I think if we're in a situation, if we're in
a situation where we're forming government, someone like Meghan, who's
her great experience, will be critical. You don't know that
on top of everything, No, we don't know that. But
she's put herself in a position where she doesn't want
to commit to our whole six years of being an
electorate seats thinking, you know, obviously she's got some other plans,
(10:03):
but she's committed to one of the I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
She wants to give to someone else.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
The opportunity to take to take Wigram and I think
good honor she's being able to do that. It's not
been an easy decision, but I think enabling someone else
to come up through the party to give a clear message,
I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You and you're in Asia Mark with your are you
pounding through the jungles.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Spear fishing on your private Islands.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Of Bali doing some spear fishing. Yet So back on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And what are you doing, Jinny. Have you come to
Auckland to visit the CBD.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I am visiting construction companies. I've visited three different constructions.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Were they doing anything.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, Simplicity by the out by the racecourse, They're doing
amazing work with sam stubs and simplicity out there.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So they are doing an amazing work because works done.
Come on.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Talking about up by Michael Cullens.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Responsible, that's true, you are, That's what simplic outcomes.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, that's all right, but eighteen thousand leaving the country
is a little we've lost significantly.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right, you two, you two, you two have a
good good time next Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
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Speaker 2 (11:31):
It'd be from six a m.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
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It's time for politics Wednesday. Mark Mitchell's with us along
(00:02):
with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to you too.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Hey morning, Mike, morning, Jenny.
Speaker 3 (00:06):
Good morning.
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Now, first of all, I'm just trying to work out
what I start with you, Jinny okay into and no,
I know your answer. Don't give me the I'm not
going to make policy on this program, get I get that,
I understand that. But in general, would you look to
flip the Erica Stanford announcement of this week?
Speaker 4 (00:29):
Well, I need to know more about it. So the
main issue I have currently is that it's a really
short consultation period for such a huge overhaul. And to
be honest, my personal view has told Caucus about this.
But what's this AI stuff? Are they going to mark
the papers?
Speaker 3 (00:46):
I don't get that, But like AI is going to
do something.
Speaker 1 (00:50):
Well, what about the idea of a certificate versus NCA
four subjects? You've got a part five subjects got to
pass for ABC D and E marketing. I mean, and
that in theory. Does that sit up okay with you guys?
Are you guys going to create some sort of big
fuss that it becomes an election issue.
Speaker 4 (01:04):
We knew there were issues within CEA and taking a
good look at that. But what we don't want to
go back to is the old school system where if
you got under fifty percent, you're a failure and that's that.
So NCAA was trying to make it more workable for
kids to keep progressing and moving. So as long as
(01:26):
we're not retuning to a situation where someone gets under
fifty percent by one mark and their toast. So that's
not going to help anyone. But look, if they're going
to make genuine, constructive improvements that make good vocational options
for kids, of course we'd be always open to discuss that.
My real concern is that six weeks consultation doesn't really
give pearans or students the opportunity to have a decent say,
(01:49):
all right, what it looks like.
Speaker 1 (01:50):
Mark cash Patel. Did you meet him?
Speaker 2 (01:54):
Yes?
Speaker 1 (01:54):
Yeah, because you're in the room and I thought, hang on,
he's probably met Mark. Talk me through it. Would you go?
Would you go for a year with them?
Speaker 2 (02:01):
Yeah? Would Yeah?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
I'm very good, really focused on getting his if E
E agents sort of back to basics, back out doing
the law enforcement role that they all joined to do,
and obviously really good having him down here and with
the permanent presence now to we talked a lot about
the myth situation globally and how we can work together
on that. Obviously, they've got a much bigger footprint and
(02:24):
better intelligence coming out of South America, which is where
a lot of this myth andmphetamine has been generated from,
and it's having an awful impact on our Pacific countries.
And of course both New Zealand Australia are working to
deal with us as well.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
Right, and when Nicholas said she saw a lot of
good looking men in suits, were.
Speaker 2 (02:42):
They good looking as well? She's a far better judge,
She's a far Jason.
Speaker 5 (02:49):
But yeah, of course he's got a security detail with them.
Speaker 1 (02:52):
Okay, the foreshore and seabed. Jinny, would you are you
comfortable broadly with what old you know, Justice Minister Goldsmith
is doing or not?
Speaker 3 (03:05):
No, I don't think it's it's great, it's.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
But isn't you going back to twenty eleven And if
you didn't like twenty eleven you could have done something
about it when you're in government, but you didn't.
Speaker 4 (03:14):
Well, the situation is that it wasn't actually causing any
interference with public access and I don't think what he's
done is strengthening the martive crown relationship at all. So
all of those who have been through the court process
are kind of left hanging now.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Well, not all of those don't.
Speaker 4 (03:31):
Well, those who have spent years going through a process,
it's more than those who have actually started the process
as well, who have initiated that process is more than
seven year. So I don't think it actually resolves anything
clearly that helps the martyr crown relationship. What was wrong
with the.
Speaker 1 (03:45):
Line that if you if you, if you can prove
to a court or the government or whatever that you've
had access since eighteen forty pretty much uninterrupted, you get
your title. If you don't, you don't. What's wrong with.
Speaker 4 (03:56):
That that there were very few that colonization that were
able to establish that.
Speaker 1 (04:03):
Yeah, and hence therefore you don't want one rule for
based on rates, do you you know? In other words,
of you left it and you didn't do it, you
can't suddenly, you know, one hundred and fifty years later
go oh yeah, we kind of like that place back then.
Speaker 4 (04:15):
But there were many other instances where they had been
contin your customer gathering, where there have been other practices
that were happening, and so we still wanted their ability
to test that right in the courts. So taking that
away didn't really do anything for the Mighty Crown relationship.
Speaker 2 (04:31):
Sorry, make no, I was just going to say, might
that fools?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
Just reinstating the law back to what the intent was
in twenty eleven and it was changed through a court decision.
Speaker 1 (04:40):
So how do you handle it? See Mark, and don't
tell me what goes on in cabinet obviously, But I
had Paul on earlier on today and I said, what
have you been doing? I mean, why are you listening
to courts? If you are the court of the land.
You are the highest court of the land, and if
you want to do something, do it. What are we
mucking around for years on ending and being told what
to do courts?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
Yeah? Well that's so I agree with you.
Speaker 5 (05:03):
Is that is that you know that once the law
has passed, all legislation has passed by Parliament and the
intent that should be applied by the courts. But the
problem is so that the courts are making their own
interpretations of the law, and that's why we've had in
this case had to go.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
But the point I'm saying Judy, though, the point is
you don't have to listen to it. I mean you're
always going to get somebody to go to court to
test and that's fine. But if you're going to get
activist courts, what's the point of a parliament.
Speaker 4 (05:29):
Well you can flip it the other way too and
say Parliament's going to override everything the courts.
Speaker 1 (05:33):
Well, not everything, but the stuff that you as the
duly elected power. I ei, the government's right, you know
you've got that you go to be able to have
some control.
Speaker 4 (05:42):
This goes right into what is I mean you're getting
into law as one or what is a separation of power?
I mean the two In twenty eleven you had National
saying that Malory had their right to test test the
rights in court and they seem to have taken a
different position once the government on all right.
Speaker 5 (05:58):
Well, it's it's not a separation of power, is she
at all? Is quite simply the will of the people,
the will of the people.
Speaker 4 (06:04):
Talking about the legal doctrine the separation of power, which
is executive judiciary.
Speaker 1 (06:07):
But I think Mark, you're arguing more along my lines,
and Paul Goldsmith was struggling with it. He seemed he
seems to be sort of like the court, and he
likes to listen to what the court are saying and
all that sort of stuff. Mark the Sylvie would at
the your were you at the conference over the weekend? Yes,
it was good, buzz.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
Yeah, it was. That was great, really good conference.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
When Sylvia comes out party president and goes the country,
doesn't see the prime minister's humanity, Does she realize you
probably shouldn't say those things out loud, because that's part
of the problem.
Speaker 3 (06:35):
Well, I thought it was a campaign on. I thought
it was going to be Erica by the end of
the weekend.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
Well, we're very we're very lucky to have Sylvie Wood
as our president. And and look she's probably talking and
engineering terms.
Speaker 2 (06:49):
He's, you know, the Prime Minister.
Speaker 5 (06:51):
In my view, I consider him a personal friend and
I've got huge admiration for him as a guy that
he didn't really get a hotingmoon.
Speaker 2 (06:59):
He's only in attach, you know.
Speaker 5 (07:02):
And but the fact of the matter is that he
is he is working bloody hard for our country. He
knows what to do and in there are times which
is extremely difficult at the moment with global headwinds we
have there is no one better in my view.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
That you should be running the country.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
I would expect you to say that, and not only that, Mark,
but I also.
Speaker 5 (07:19):
Believe I mean that from my heart.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
I know you believe.
Speaker 2 (07:23):
I wouldn't say it if I didn't feel.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
But when, and this is the problem with Sylvia saying
what she did. When does it translate to a point
where people go, yep, Mark was right and he is
a decent blow. Can I get it?
Speaker 2 (07:35):
Well?
Speaker 5 (07:35):
I just think that if they actually look at them,
if they if they look and see what he's doing
and what he's achieving for us as a country, and
if they and if they actually look at the difficulties
around the world at the moment, the headwinds. I mean,
we are although people aren't feeling it yet, and we
fully acknowledge that we are pulling ourselves out of the
economic mess that these guys that the previous government put
us in. The previous guy's got no plan other than
(07:56):
to text people more.
Speaker 2 (07:59):
He's actually doing. He's excellent. A really good.
Speaker 3 (08:02):
Kind of waited in there as well. I thought I
read something.
Speaker 4 (08:04):
That was both a good fellow and Sylvia boat saying
stuff that he's not that popular.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
That's that's completely rubbish. Neither of them said there.
Speaker 4 (08:15):
They were just what the thing is going? Let me
just know it was more. It was just making the
point there that is, popularity isn't strong and trying to.
Speaker 1 (08:24):
Be when when you've got to tell people, Mark my
point is this, when you've got to tell people something
that should be obvious, you've got a problem. Is the issue.
It's like saying, look, Hosking really is a nice guy. Now,
no one believes that.
Speaker 2 (08:41):
A lot of people. Yeah.
Speaker 5 (08:49):
Sorry, All I was going to say is, look, I've
been lucky in my lifetime to have worked some really
good leaders and limits like you said, Jenny, let me
finish please, I've been really lucky to work with some
great leaders.
Speaker 2 (09:06):
I'm telling you now.
Speaker 5 (09:06):
Chris pha Luxen as a minister is without a doubt
a great leader and.
Speaker 2 (09:12):
He powers this ministers up.
Speaker 5 (09:14):
But I will say this, he expects you deliver results
for the country. We're here delivered results of the country,
and if we don't, then there's some serious conversations exactly.
Speaker 3 (09:23):
And that's what's happening right now.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Some serious conversations, yes, and that's what Let me have
this on this for you, Jinny and it's not a
personal thing. I'm just interested in Megan Wood's giving up
her list seat. Does that work from home vibes? Is
that like can't be bothered? Is that just lazy politics?
Why would you want to just sit there being on
a list if you can be in an electric well.
Speaker 4 (09:41):
I think if we're in a situation, if we're in
a situation where we're forming government, someone like Meghan, who's
her great experience, will be critical. You don't know that
on top of everything, No, we don't know that. But
she's put herself in a position where she doesn't want
to commit to our whole six years of being an
electorate seats thinking, you know, obviously she's got some other plans,
(10:03):
but she's committed to one of the I don't know.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
She wants to give to someone else.
Speaker 4 (10:09):
The opportunity to take to take Wigram and I think
good honor she's being able to do that. It's not
been an easy decision, but I think enabling someone else
to come up through the party to give a clear message,
I think that's important.
Speaker 1 (10:24):
You and you're in Asia Mark with your are you
pounding through the jungles.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Spear fishing on your private Islands.
Speaker 5 (10:35):
Of Bali doing some spear fishing. Yet So back on Sunday.
Speaker 1 (10:41):
And what are you doing, Jinny. Have you come to
Auckland to visit the CBD.
Speaker 4 (10:45):
I am visiting construction companies. I've visited three different constructions.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Were they doing anything.
Speaker 4 (10:53):
Well, Simplicity by the out by the racecourse, They're doing
amazing work with sam stubs and simplicity out there.
Speaker 2 (11:00):
So they are doing an amazing work because works done.
Come on.
Speaker 4 (11:04):
Talking about up by Michael Cullens.
Speaker 3 (11:10):
Responsible, that's true, you are, That's what simplic outcomes.
Speaker 4 (11:17):
Yeah, that's all right, but eighteen thousand leaving the country
is a little we've lost significantly.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
All right, you two, you two, you two have a
good good time next Wednesday.
Speaker 5 (11:27):
For more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news Talks.
Speaker 2 (11:31):
It'd be from six a m.
Speaker 1 (11:32):
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