October 14, 2025 • 11 mins
Today on Politics Wednesday, Mark Mitchell and Ginny Andersen joined Mike Hosking to delve into the biggest political stories of the week so far.
Slipping parliamentary standards are back at the forefront, with Speaker Gerry Brownlee planning to crack down on behaviour after yet another incident.
And Te Pati Māori is seemingly melting down from the inside, with allegations regarding a former party vice-president and budget blowouts.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Politics Wednesday, where we find Mark Mitchell joining the program
along with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to you both. Good
morning Mike, Mark. How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Out of ten, I'm feeling four.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's not good.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
At four, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Four out of ten, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The boardroom, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm going off
the pain scale. You got to go paying one to ten.
So on the pain scale on four, so recovery, I'm
probably about an eight Hurrican.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
What about understanding simple questions? Marke, where are you on
the scale? I just changed my answer last last weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I was very worried because I was hit a lot
of more feed in my system when I came on
the show.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Last I think.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
There's a little bit the ends a little bit there.
But it was interesting because when I was on last week,
I was saying, look, I'm pretty optimistic. I think that
I'm getting great key here. I'll be up running a
couple of days. He was saying, You've got quite a
few calls saying that's irresponsible. I've been a.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Response for what be on the show from the hospital.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, no, no, for trying to recover and get out
of hospital in a couple of days, and well, everyone
recovers at their own rates.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Exactly said. People are moanas, aren't they Sony's crew, That
was Jenny's crew. Let me get this, let me get
this right? So so so okay or not?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I am I am no, No, I'm definitely on the
right on the road to recovery.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
There's no doubt about that. Well, where's the pain coming from?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What pain are you suffering?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I've got cellulitis and it does take a few days
to come right.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
For goodness sake, it's not good. Terrible, Yeah, it is terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's fine, that's fine. When guys there's other things in
the world to worry about.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh no, not now, I'm worrying you worried?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Ginny, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Don't even know what it is. I thought cell you
light was like a fat bum, But it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's not right.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's your that's your definitions. Right. When did you o
us sort of a featured Look, I tell you what, Ever,
since Morning Reports started copying this segment, I mean, there's
there's there's going to be nothing like this on thats there.
I mean, you know, this is as good as it
gets did you when did you open the jewelry shop?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Mark the jewelry shop? I did that not last weekend,
the weekend before.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh, for God's sake, because I'm reading it in the
Herald over the weekend. And the problem the Herald at
the moment is they're running they're doing this thing whereby
they run stories for eight years, and so I know
I no longer know whether anything happened because I saw
you at the jewelry shop.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I thought this guy's left hospital to open a
jewelry shop.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
No, no, it was just it was literally, that was
literally the day before that. We didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Jeez, Now, Jinny, can I pick you up? Can I
pick you up? Yesterday? From question time, you look bored witless?
You were. Who was the person sitting next to you
asking the question? Was that Willow Jean?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yes it was Jane.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, you like Willow Jean because you look you had
you You're head in your hands, and you go, God,
I'd ask a better question than her, get on with it.
And you had that look about you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Sorry, and I should I should pick my head up
a bit better. I was actually I had stuff like
you've done. So. I was working on my phone while listening, and.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Then I saw you stirring into middle distance up in
the gallery. Who was up in the gallery? That was
so fascinating?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What was I looking?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Or there were other people up in the gallery who
were Were they waving at you something?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah? They were? Actually what do you do?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Wave back? Are you paying attention? That's a serious place.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You're not really need to wave back. No, but I
think there was a group of people from the hat
who were she.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was googling treatment for cell you.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I've loved that mouse.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, all right, well I'm glad we've got the important
business of the day, right Ginny. You first, the Maori
party and their various problems. Are you surprised? And what
advice is the seasoned professional would you offer them?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I suppose you know, like all parties have the internal
you know, ructions and fights, it's just not so often
that we see it and hear it so much. So Yeah,
I guess I am surprised that we've seen it in
such detail sort of play out over the last couple
of days. But I guess that the main point is
(04:15):
is that's what caucus discipline is about. And you know,
if you're going to be holding yourself accountable that you
need to have a caucus that sticks together. And so
having caucus collective responsibility and having a unified group in there,
that's a critical part of being able to carry yourself politically.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Mark, do you do you run a budget? I mean
this budget of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars? Do
you have a budget? Do you run it? And does
anyone oversee what you're doing with it?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah? I mean all the peace have a budget and
they yes, they run it to make sure they stay
with them budget.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And who comes to you and goes, Mark, you spend
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars more than you were
supposed to.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, Parliamentary Services will help run that budget alongside you.
And it's probably them that have come and said, look,
you've had a mess of blowout here, but look money,
I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But if you had a blow out of one hundred
and thirty thousand dollars, wouldn't you know it? I mean,
what's your budget?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well you should know it, definitely, Yeah, you should know
if you've had a blow out of ten thousand dollars without.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
A doubt what's your do you need? Do you have
a budget as a opposition MP?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Totally?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, you have a budget and you manage it and
Parliamentary Service support you and effectively managing it, and you
get better at it, to be honest over time because
you get to know, you know what your staff payers,
what their allocations are for annually. That's all going to
come out of it. You've also had to pay for
your things that it or whatever things you need. And
I also you also got to fund an officer in
(05:42):
one way Mutter and an officer Tony, so we've got
to make sure that all those things are covered as well.
So yeah, you have to make sure that you know
your whips are watching you as well as Parliamentary Service
to make sure that you're on target, and you usually
get a graph to be honest, how are you tracking
over the here?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
All right, listen, I've got more questions robing questions. Mark,
what do you make of jury yesterday in the House
and the speech and what he wants to achieve.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I have always said that we should bring standards back
to the House. I never agreed with dropping the standards.
I think that that is one there's one place in
this country that you should take seriously and you should
turn up, you know, taking some time to actually look
like you're there to do the business of the country
for the people that you represent. I've always been in
that space, So I congratulate jury and embrace the changes.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
What do you make of Ginny, Yeah, well I think
it's good. But whether or not it happens or not
is another story.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well well, so, well, I mean it will happen if
you wanted to, haven't won't it?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, you know, I mean the things he said was
around you know, turning up, which is fair enough, dress code,
which is I think also fair enough. But the use
of supplementary questions and how that operates. I mean we
still have Winston Peter's every day getting up asking a
supplementary that's not a supplementary, and he started to crack
down on that a bit. But it's important that you
have a single stand it across the house, and I
(06:59):
think he's importance.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
By the way, Mike, we never the National Party never
dropped the standards. So when the speaker mel I dropped
the step, we never did that. Weid that we would
stick to the standards, that they are important. But you
had the green parties with people turning up looking a
lot at Fonsarelli and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
The it is true. I look at you, Ginny. I'm
not sucking up to you because you're on the show,
but you would be one of the better, if not best,
presented of the labor MPs. So your appearance is clearly
of importance to you, and good on you for that.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But well, we were always brought up that way, and
you know, we were, you know, largely from working class background,
but we were always taught that you might not be wealthy,
but it was important to look good and present well.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And that's always been drilled in to me from day one.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, I could be critical Mark and trying, I'm to
distance yourself from the fact he's national impeak. I thought
he missed a beat yesterday. I thought he was heading
somewhere and he was going to call Al Renny out
and he didn't. And I just it just because he's
clearly pissed off with what's going on, and rightly so
he wants to do something about it, and he could
have done more than he did, and he did.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Probably, Yeah, he put.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Trust anti party Mary and they just completely blew it
out the back door. So I think that they're done.
The Chips are done.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is it just though Mark, Is it just Maori Party
or is it the Greens as well?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, the Greens are pretty bad too, without a doubt.
In terms of what I feel is not showing respect
to the House. It's almost they showed disdain. Why run
for parliament? Why come into parliament if you if you
hate the place?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's performing Where He's right, Jinny, is it's performative, isn't
it is that they're not there to bet in New Zealand,
agree or disagree on politics. They're not there to bet
in New Zealand. They're there to perform.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Well, I think they would argue differently from from the
course that the way they're present is that they are
arguing for the things that they believe in. But I'm
not going to come on and defend them today, that
that's not my job. But I think it's important to
note that it's not just and it's not just that,
it's also the behavior in the House and we have,
you know, consistently supplementary questions being asked that technically are
(09:08):
not supplementary questions. They're just designed to be stunted. So
I think when Jerry's cracking down, I think what he's
going to find himself doing is if he wants to
raise the bar across the house, he's going to have
to do that as well.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
My problem with that, though, Jinny, is I know what
you're saying, but only you may be technically right, but
often not always, But often those questions are quite comedic.
And where I'm critical of Jerry is he doesn't have
a sense of humor and and and the back and
forward and the banter and the agro and a bit
of biffo every now and again no longer. He doesn't
tolerate it. And I like it.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And yeah, I think it's patient kind of run.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Out, which is a necessary part of it.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Without last Thursday, watching his face, you know he was
really not happy camper, you know, like he was real
You could say he was going away to do some
deep breathing.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know, he was doing everything he could.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, because he's dealing with bad behavior. And look to
compare with Saint Peter's who is I think most key Weies,
even if they don't enjoy I don't agree with as
politics would agree. He's an outstanding statesman for us.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He's impeakably dressed. He takes the place seriously, the longest
service Parliamentaria, absolutely knows the rules. So to compare them
to the just evled Greens that come in with the
leather jackets and all the rest of the stuff going on,
and to Party Mary that have just got they've got
no respect for Parliament at all, I'd say that, Genny,
you need to be defending your coalition partners because they're
(10:29):
not behaving very well.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
My view is that I've always personally taken Parliament incredibly seriously,
and I think the vast majority of MP's who come
and each day believe in why they're there, and they
all want.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
To make New Zealand a better country.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And I think we might have different philosophical approaches as
to how that might have be achieved, but I do
believe all empeace come to that place because we love
New Zealand and we want to make it better.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Interesting, right, go Mark, And I was just going to say,
I do agree with that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I've always said that myself too. I do believe that
everyone can because the United by that one thing, and
that's what they believe and try to make it better.
But the looseness in the in the in the standards,
the dropping of standards, and it's a slippery slide. And
it is and they've got to be reinstated with it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Lovely to see you. I hope for a better scoorse
for you next week. Mark. Do you want do you
want me to see something? Do you want me to
do you want some chocolate or something?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But Rock, I don't know your your I like that
that little container that you have with all your goodies
and it looks.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
On the Mediterranean salad, the Mediterranan salad. Yeah, I'll send
you out of Mediterranean salad. You'll be amazed at Nice
to see you both, Marke, Mitchell, Ginny Anderson for another week.
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Politics Wednesday, where we find Mark Mitchell joining the program
along with Ginny Anderson. Good morning to you both. Good
morning Mike, Mark. How are you feeling?
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Out of ten, I'm feeling four.
Speaker 3 (00:12):
It's not good.
Speaker 1 (00:13):
It's not good.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
At four, that's pretty good. That's pretty good.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Four out of ten, it's pretty good.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
The boardroom, I'm sorry, sorry, sorry, sorry, I'm going off
the pain scale. You got to go paying one to ten.
So on the pain scale on four, so recovery, I'm
probably about an eight Hurrican.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
What about understanding simple questions? Marke, where are you on
the scale? I just changed my answer last last weekend.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
I was very worried because I was hit a lot
of more feed in my system when I came on
the show.
Speaker 1 (00:43):
Last I think.
Speaker 2 (00:46):
There's a little bit the ends a little bit there.
But it was interesting because when I was on last week,
I was saying, look, I'm pretty optimistic. I think that
I'm getting great key here. I'll be up running a
couple of days. He was saying, You've got quite a
few calls saying that's irresponsible. I've been a.
Speaker 1 (00:59):
Response for what be on the show from the hospital.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
No, no, no, for trying to recover and get out
of hospital in a couple of days, and well, everyone
recovers at their own rates.
Speaker 1 (01:09):
Exactly said. People are moanas, aren't they Sony's crew, That
was Jenny's crew. Let me get this, let me get
this right? So so so okay or not?
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah?
Speaker 2 (01:23):
I am I am no, No, I'm definitely on the
right on the road to recovery.
Speaker 1 (01:26):
There's no doubt about that. Well, where's the pain coming from?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
What?
Speaker 1 (01:29):
What pain are you suffering?
Speaker 2 (01:31):
I've got cellulitis and it does take a few days
to come right.
Speaker 1 (01:34):
For goodness sake, it's not good. Terrible, Yeah, it is terrible.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
It's fine, that's fine. When guys there's other things in
the world to worry about.
Speaker 1 (01:42):
Oh no, not now, I'm worrying you worried?
Speaker 3 (01:45):
Ginny, Well, I.
Speaker 4 (01:47):
Don't even know what it is. I thought cell you
light was like a fat bum, But it's not.
Speaker 3 (01:50):
That's not right.
Speaker 1 (01:53):
That's your that's your definitions. Right. When did you o
us sort of a featured Look, I tell you what, Ever,
since Morning Reports started copying this segment, I mean, there's
there's there's going to be nothing like this on thats there.
I mean, you know, this is as good as it
gets did you when did you open the jewelry shop?
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Mark the jewelry shop? I did that not last weekend,
the weekend before.
Speaker 1 (02:21):
Oh, for God's sake, because I'm reading it in the
Herald over the weekend. And the problem the Herald at
the moment is they're running they're doing this thing whereby
they run stories for eight years, and so I know
I no longer know whether anything happened because I saw
you at the jewelry shop.
Speaker 2 (02:33):
Yeah, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
And I thought this guy's left hospital to open a
jewelry shop.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
No, no, it was just it was literally, that was
literally the day before that. We didn't.
Speaker 1 (02:44):
Jeez, Now, Jinny, can I pick you up? Can I
pick you up? Yesterday? From question time, you look bored witless?
You were. Who was the person sitting next to you
asking the question? Was that Willow Jean?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yes it was Jane.
Speaker 1 (02:55):
No, you like Willow Jean because you look you had
you You're head in your hands, and you go, God,
I'd ask a better question than her, get on with it.
And you had that look about you.
Speaker 3 (03:04):
Sorry, and I should I should pick my head up
a bit better. I was actually I had stuff like
you've done. So. I was working on my phone while listening, and.
Speaker 1 (03:11):
Then I saw you stirring into middle distance up in
the gallery. Who was up in the gallery? That was
so fascinating?
Speaker 3 (03:18):
What was I looking?
Speaker 4 (03:19):
Or there were other people up in the gallery who
were Were they waving at you something?
Speaker 3 (03:22):
Yeah? They were? Actually what do you do?
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Wave back? Are you paying attention? That's a serious place.
Speaker 3 (03:29):
You're not really need to wave back. No, but I
think there was a group of people from the hat
who were she.
Speaker 2 (03:33):
Was googling treatment for cell you.
Speaker 3 (03:40):
I've loved that mouse.
Speaker 1 (03:41):
Okay, all right, well I'm glad we've got the important
business of the day, right Ginny. You first, the Maori
party and their various problems. Are you surprised? And what
advice is the seasoned professional would you offer them?
Speaker 3 (03:53):
Well?
Speaker 4 (03:54):
I suppose you know, like all parties have the internal
you know, ructions and fights, it's just not so often
that we see it and hear it so much. So Yeah,
I guess I am surprised that we've seen it in
such detail sort of play out over the last couple
of days. But I guess that the main point is
(04:15):
is that's what caucus discipline is about. And you know,
if you're going to be holding yourself accountable that you
need to have a caucus that sticks together. And so
having caucus collective responsibility and having a unified group in there,
that's a critical part of being able to carry yourself politically.
Speaker 1 (04:34):
Mark, do you do you run a budget? I mean
this budget of one hundred and thirty thousand dollars? Do
you have a budget? Do you run it? And does
anyone oversee what you're doing with it?
Speaker 2 (04:42):
Yeah? I mean all the peace have a budget and
they yes, they run it to make sure they stay
with them budget.
Speaker 1 (04:48):
And who comes to you and goes, Mark, you spend
one hundred and thirty thousand dollars more than you were
supposed to.
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Well, Parliamentary Services will help run that budget alongside you.
And it's probably them that have come and said, look,
you've had a mess of blowout here, but look money,
I'm guessing.
Speaker 1 (05:03):
But if you had a blow out of one hundred
and thirty thousand dollars, wouldn't you know it? I mean,
what's your budget?
Speaker 2 (05:09):
Well you should know it, definitely, Yeah, you should know
if you've had a blow out of ten thousand dollars without.
Speaker 1 (05:14):
A doubt what's your do you need? Do you have
a budget as a opposition MP?
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Totally?
Speaker 4 (05:20):
Yeah, you have a budget and you manage it and
Parliamentary Service support you and effectively managing it, and you
get better at it, to be honest over time because
you get to know, you know what your staff payers,
what their allocations are for annually. That's all going to
come out of it. You've also had to pay for
your things that it or whatever things you need. And
I also you also got to fund an officer in
(05:42):
one way Mutter and an officer Tony, so we've got
to make sure that all those things are covered as well.
So yeah, you have to make sure that you know
your whips are watching you as well as Parliamentary Service
to make sure that you're on target, and you usually
get a graph to be honest, how are you tracking
over the here?
Speaker 3 (05:57):
Well?
Speaker 1 (05:57):
All right, listen, I've got more questions robing questions. Mark,
what do you make of jury yesterday in the House
and the speech and what he wants to achieve.
Speaker 2 (06:05):
I have always said that we should bring standards back
to the House. I never agreed with dropping the standards.
I think that that is one there's one place in
this country that you should take seriously and you should
turn up, you know, taking some time to actually look
like you're there to do the business of the country
for the people that you represent. I've always been in
that space, So I congratulate jury and embrace the changes.
Speaker 4 (06:27):
What do you make of Ginny, Yeah, well I think
it's good. But whether or not it happens or not
is another story.
Speaker 1 (06:34):
Well well, so, well, I mean it will happen if
you wanted to, haven't won't it?
Speaker 4 (06:38):
Well, you know, I mean the things he said was
around you know, turning up, which is fair enough, dress code,
which is I think also fair enough. But the use
of supplementary questions and how that operates. I mean we
still have Winston Peter's every day getting up asking a
supplementary that's not a supplementary, and he started to crack
down on that a bit. But it's important that you
have a single stand it across the house, and I
(06:59):
think he's importance.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
By the way, Mike, we never the National Party never
dropped the standards. So when the speaker mel I dropped
the step, we never did that. Weid that we would
stick to the standards, that they are important. But you
had the green parties with people turning up looking a
lot at Fonsarelli and all sorts of stuff.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
The it is true. I look at you, Ginny. I'm
not sucking up to you because you're on the show,
but you would be one of the better, if not best,
presented of the labor MPs. So your appearance is clearly
of importance to you, and good on you for that.
Speaker 4 (07:31):
But well, we were always brought up that way, and
you know, we were, you know, largely from working class background,
but we were always taught that you might not be wealthy,
but it was important to look good and present well.
Speaker 3 (07:43):
And that's always been drilled in to me from day one.
Speaker 1 (07:46):
Yeah, I could be critical Mark and trying, I'm to
distance yourself from the fact he's national impeak. I thought
he missed a beat yesterday. I thought he was heading
somewhere and he was going to call Al Renny out
and he didn't. And I just it just because he's
clearly pissed off with what's going on, and rightly so
he wants to do something about it, and he could
have done more than he did, and he did.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (08:05):
Probably, Yeah, he put.
Speaker 2 (08:10):
Trust anti party Mary and they just completely blew it
out the back door. So I think that they're done.
The Chips are done.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Is it just though Mark, Is it just Maori Party
or is it the Greens as well?
Speaker 2 (08:22):
No, the Greens are pretty bad too, without a doubt.
In terms of what I feel is not showing respect
to the House. It's almost they showed disdain. Why run
for parliament? Why come into parliament if you if you
hate the place?
Speaker 1 (08:35):
It's performing Where He's right, Jinny, is it's performative, isn't
it is that they're not there to bet in New Zealand,
agree or disagree on politics. They're not there to bet
in New Zealand. They're there to perform.
Speaker 4 (08:45):
Well, I think they would argue differently from from the
course that the way they're present is that they are
arguing for the things that they believe in. But I'm
not going to come on and defend them today, that
that's not my job. But I think it's important to
note that it's not just and it's not just that,
it's also the behavior in the House and we have,
you know, consistently supplementary questions being asked that technically are
(09:08):
not supplementary questions. They're just designed to be stunted. So
I think when Jerry's cracking down, I think what he's
going to find himself doing is if he wants to
raise the bar across the house, he's going to have
to do that as well.
Speaker 1 (09:20):
My problem with that, though, Jinny, is I know what
you're saying, but only you may be technically right, but
often not always, But often those questions are quite comedic.
And where I'm critical of Jerry is he doesn't have
a sense of humor and and and the back and
forward and the banter and the agro and a bit
of biffo every now and again no longer. He doesn't
tolerate it. And I like it.
Speaker 4 (09:37):
And yeah, I think it's patient kind of run.
Speaker 2 (09:40):
Out, which is a necessary part of it.
Speaker 4 (09:42):
Without last Thursday, watching his face, you know he was
really not happy camper, you know, like he was real
You could say he was going away to do some
deep breathing.
Speaker 3 (09:51):
You know, he was doing everything he could.
Speaker 2 (09:54):
Yeah, because he's dealing with bad behavior. And look to
compare with Saint Peter's who is I think most key Weies,
even if they don't enjoy I don't agree with as
politics would agree. He's an outstanding statesman for us.
Speaker 1 (10:06):
That's true.
Speaker 2 (10:07):
He's impeakably dressed. He takes the place seriously, the longest
service Parliamentaria, absolutely knows the rules. So to compare them
to the just evled Greens that come in with the
leather jackets and all the rest of the stuff going on,
and to Party Mary that have just got they've got
no respect for Parliament at all, I'd say that, Genny,
you need to be defending your coalition partners because they're
(10:29):
not behaving very well.
Speaker 3 (10:31):
Well.
Speaker 4 (10:31):
My view is that I've always personally taken Parliament incredibly seriously,
and I think the vast majority of MP's who come
and each day believe in why they're there, and they
all want.
Speaker 3 (10:42):
To make New Zealand a better country.
Speaker 4 (10:44):
And I think we might have different philosophical approaches as
to how that might have be achieved, but I do
believe all empeace come to that place because we love
New Zealand and we want to make it better.
Speaker 1 (10:53):
Interesting, right, go Mark, And I was just going to say,
I do agree with that.
Speaker 2 (10:57):
I've always said that myself too. I do believe that
everyone can because the United by that one thing, and
that's what they believe and try to make it better.
But the looseness in the in the in the standards,
the dropping of standards, and it's a slippery slide. And
it is and they've got to be reinstated with it.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Lovely to see you. I hope for a better scoorse
for you next week. Mark. Do you want do you
want me to see something? Do you want me to
do you want some chocolate or something?
Speaker 2 (11:20):
But Rock, I don't know your your I like that
that little container that you have with all your goodies
and it looks.
Speaker 1 (11:26):
On the Mediterranean salad, the Mediterranan salad. Yeah, I'll send
you out of Mediterranean salad. You'll be amazed at Nice
to see you both, Marke, Mitchell, Ginny Anderson for another week.
Speaker 2 (11:36):
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