The invoking of the Agree to Disagree clause doesn’t indicate a cracking coalition, the Police Minister says.
Deputy Prime Minister Winston Peters has invoked the first Coalition Agree to Disagree over the second phase of the Covid-19 inquiry.
Mark Mitchell told Mike Hosking that the coalition agreement has that clause so that the things parties don't agree on can be dealt with in an adult way.
He said that it’s a strong coalition and thinks that all the ministers are enjoying working inside it.
Disagreements are normal in any part of life, Mitchell said, but the reality is that every party recognises the perilous state the country is in, and they have to be united and have a strong government that is focused on delivering.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes, I really when misted up again, now I'm a
baby's corner. Then the Torso when Jesse.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Tossy Sons, who was trying to remember SoftBank ceo AI
that is ten thousand times smarter than humans going to
be here in teen years. I mean, that's it. He's right. This,
by the way, is posting posts Malone. He's he's hooked
up with Blake Shelton. Listen to this, it's just keeping
we in general. Post he makes a pastor his prime.
(00:33):
Shelton looks so good. Norman, he's a lot at the moment.
Posted because he hooked up with Morgan Wallen. I had
some help. That's the top song in America for the
sixth week running. This song comes from his album, which
is yet to be out August sixteen. If one Trillion
is the name, there are eighteen tracks on that. It
(00:55):
is ain't that. It's past eight Time for politics Wednesday,
Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson both whether it's good morning, good morning,
good morning, Mark, you're on the move. Talk to me
about what you know about hawks Bay wiroh Etca.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I know that we're in a local state of emergency
in Hawk's Bay. That that is very isolated to one community.
The same with Laura and Lisbone. I've been speaking to
the MEAs throughout the morning. I'm on the way up
there now, you know, they just they can't catch a break. Obviously,
the focus life how is dealing with the flooding and
make sure that everyone's safe. But I've also got the
(01:29):
recovery toll you as well, so I'll be looking at
what we need to do to immediately get in and
help them recover.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
All right, good stuff, Jinny, I'm back in parliament yesterday.
Do you have too many breaks?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Do you reckon too many breaks? Yeah? The party, this
Parliament station, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The first fun.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We don't say so, but it does seem like we're
not there for a lot, and particularly post budgets, like
we want more time in the house to ask questions
as minister's part budget, and we yet three question times
in the sort of two to many seven weeks. We've
got three weeks off, one week on, three weeks off,
(02:07):
so da seem.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Like a lot this year.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, and see I'm missing and I like a good
question time, as you well known, I'm sort of suddenly
this week after week of no question time these mark
is that the cracks appearing agree to disagree. We've got
cracks in the coalition already.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No, No, that's look, it was a very good coalition
agreement that was put together, you know, obviously d by
the Prime Minister, and it was because there are going
to be things that parties bo't agree on that you
can do that and they're way and it's a through
strong coalition. I think everyone, all the ministers are enjoyed
working inside it and we're getting things done. And in
terms of the House sitting, I mean we've had a
massive program that we're actually delivering. We've just come through
(02:43):
a scrutiny week where the Minister's paid front of spectivities
more scrutiny than they've ever ahead, which is an important
thing because the opposition to have a job still in
terms of holding the government to account. But look, we've
got a massive lease heted program and we get in
we're pushing it through, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
How many agree to disagrees need to be triggered before
people can go. I think something's gone wrong here.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's the proofs in the pudding, I suppose, and I
mean everyone I think watching for when when it's no
longer the Deputy Prime Minister. I think that's kind of
a critical time that people think if there are some
cracks there, if he starts tucking the toys, that'll be
when you.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
See it, So that'll be halfway.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well. I think he's got less investment, like if you've
in there now and you're right, but you know, I
think that's that's kind of the area that people are
watching to see if once he steps back from that
role and they would see more steps up to see
how that relationship continues.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I am being fascincious Mike when I ask you about that.
It does seem like a mature thing, and I think
luxe and deserves an element of credit in putting that
in there in the first place. So because you're not
going to agree on a whole bunch of stuff, are.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You, Well you're not, and that's you know, and that's
normal than any part of life. But the reality is
this is that every one of those parties, all of us,
realize what a parlor state their country are in. And
we have to be united and we have to be
a strong government that is focused on delivering and that
succepting what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Jinny, have you heard of Operation Yaka no, I can't
say head right. So Operation Yaker this was just once
again the boot camps and stuff like that, and people
I think you'd be in this camp that say, you know,
there's no evidence that it works. Operation Yak is a
thing in Australia. They claim a ninety percent success rate.
In other words, there are groups out there that do
work with troubled young people that do have levels of success.
(04:29):
So the broad based question is, given what we've been
doing doesn't work, and the crime rate is where it is,
why wouldn't you want to try something different.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I'd argue that the dropping ram Raids, they went
from one hundred and nineteen a month from the August
before I was minister down to I think around to
less than twenty a month now. That hardcore group of
repeat youth offenders who went through the programs we had,
which was a full wrap around program, about eighty six
percent of them did not reoffend. And I think that
(04:59):
dropping ram Raids is because those programs work, and Karen
Shaw had said they work, and they've picked them up
and continued those programs. So it'll be really interesting to
see what these boot camps actually look like because they're
more looking, less boot camping and more like what we're
already doing as the detail news.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Sorry marke Cary might just just very quickly on there,
I said, right for the start, I mean, you know,
putting cambages in like bollards and bulk and as that's fine.
It gives that shopkeepers a bit more security, and you know,
on the margins they do work. However, I did say
at the time that all they do is they'll pivot
and they'll change your technics. And that's what they've done.
They've moved to aggravated robberies. And you could argue that
(05:42):
that's even worse. We saw the awful situation unfold and
Pepper Toot who visited the family the other day, and
by the way, I just have to say that, you know,
if each son Sonny hadn't stepped forward to defender's father,
then we probably would have indem held the fatality. And
he certainly felt that he was going to be killed.
And for anyone that thinks that these the top end
offenders aren't violent and doesn't need to be taken off
(06:05):
our streets and out of the community, just consider this.
The offenders for the attack followed him into the shop
and continued to strike him on the head with the hammer.
And by the way, a full shout out to his
amazing wife who also showed extraordinary courage and trying to
defend her husband. But this has to stop, and to
stop it, we're going to take those worst violent recidibus
(06:26):
to youth offenders. We're going to take them out of
the community, and we're going to invest in them through
this youth Military Academy, and we're going to try and
give them the best fighting charts to make good decisions
when they come out instead of continuing to make decisions
that hurt our communities.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Prey break more at the moment Marke Mintell, Jenny Anderson,
thirteen past news Sook's it be? Sixteen past eight Jenny
Anderson Marke Mintell, Jenny, A couple of things for you.
The employment changes that are come in for job secret
and you've got to go in and have a meeting
and go to a conference and all that, and I
get you probably don't like it, but part of what
that came out of was the number of people who
are on job Seeker who don't have case managers. How
can you justify will and extens of one hundred thousand
(07:00):
people who don't have a case manager.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, I have no problem with people turning up and
checking in, but what's the point of it, as kind
of my concerned, give them a driver's license, give them
some on the job training, but just just sitting in
a hall and checking in and having a seminar.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or as it may, these people didn't have case managers.
Why do so many people not have case managers? They
were just left to drift.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, they should have case managers, people in place. Maybe
they haven't had seven hundred jobs cut out at NESD
they might have it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, no, no, no, this was Ginny. This was under you,
under your government. They didn't have case managers. One hundred
thousand plus people didn't have a case manager. They just
hopped on job secret and everyone forgot about them.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, that needs to be rectified. But having a seminar
where they get some information and walk away again, and
then if they don't turn up to the seminar they
get kicked off, the kicked off the unemployment benefit. I
just don't see how that's going to work. What does
work is what we did, which gave on the job training,
which gave drivers' licenses, that gave people real skills that
made more employable. And what this does is absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Do you know what literally happens, Mark, Because I've received
a couple of texts and so basically you turn up
and they tell you to go to trade me and
have a look for jobs, and that's their advice for
the day.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
No, I think no. I think Louise Upset is bringing
a real focus onto making sure there is proper support
and the accountability. There's a social contract that exists with
us as a country whereas we have a very good
social welfare network and service and to help people, you
get up, give the hand up. But the reality is
this ke is that there is a responsibility on the
(08:35):
other side as well to try and get yourself job ready,
to try and have an honesty effort actually finding the
job and getting getting into employment. And I think that's
really important and that's what Louise is doing. Might just
really really quickly. I just want to finish what I
was saying about the crime. What I was saying is this,
We've got a deal. If you want to reduce the
rand roads and negravated robberies, we actually have to deal
with the offending and not put band aids on it,
(08:57):
and that is what we're focused on doing, is actually
getting people.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Your Your boot camp's got tap places for ten people
in it. I think you just filled out loud.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's a warm The problem so that's the part and
the problem that you've got is that you've never understood,
is it on the fringes that the offenders that you know,
a lot of the eighty percent of the youth offenders,
you can actually deal with. You can put a program
around them, you can actually deal with them in the community.
It's it's the fifteen it's the ten to fifteen percent
that are the toughest, most recidivious violent offenders. Those are
(09:27):
the ones that we're targeting, and those are the ones
that we're and they're responsible for most of these aggravated
robberies that you see that has got a huge human
costly lines.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The other thing for you, Jenny, the poll last night,
it seems to me that although you in a campaign
go for as many boats as you can and you
want to run the country by yourself and all that
sort of stuff, you're going to need the Maori Party,
how do you sit alongside what increasingly looks to me
like a bunch of nut jobs often ask, but it
seems more real. I mean, I get it with the Greens.
(09:57):
The Greens are crazy as well, but you can you
can coalesce with and we've got a track record. The
Maori Party want their own parliament, their own country Tena
rang a Tiara tongue and never the Twains you'll meet
and you've somehow got to put that together as a deal.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, we don't support having things like a completely separate
from Marti parliament. There are some things we could stay
quite clearly we don't support. What we continue to do
is make a case for Art for being the next
government and pointing out some of the massive mistakes this
government has made. I gets your decisions, but.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What are you going to do Because it's going to
it's going to be real and and unless you somehow
get to a point where you and the Greens are
the clear leaders and you can two party it, you're
going to need to three party it. And they're the
sort of crazies who are going to go, we don't
want anything to do with you, and that's going to
hobble your ambitions in the election campaign.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, i'd come out, I'd say that Winston's come out
and said some pretty nutty stuff over the last six months.
You know, he talked about the KKK and things like that.
So all political parties have in moments of stupid stuff.
And that's that's what Paul texas about. You make sure
that you make a case. But Labor works incredibly hard
(11:04):
to make sure we put forward real alternatives to what
this government is making an absolute meat out of. I mean,
cancer drugs alone has hurt so many key weeks in
terms of brilliant people tired and tired of national promising
and it's absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So you're comparing Watson Winston Peters to the very partty
Winston Peters.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That was pretty stuff and it'll be interesting to say
when he's not.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And what let me give you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Let me give you a contrast between Winston Peter's the
last Labor for him.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And it sounds like a joke and I can't, okay,
where we go.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, you've just spoken, you know, just rebeled all for
five minutes. Give me a couple of minutes every day.
I just it. So basically, Mike, I just came back
from Switzerland with the Rushy Crow thing, and I can
tell you how Winston Peters is highly respected on the
world stage. He is a statesman, he is one of
our most experienced political leaders. He doesn't spout the sort
of nonsense and rubbish that you're talking about, and he's
(12:04):
been out there actually re establishing us on the world stage,
which is critically important because under the Labor government they
completely failed to do that. So, you know, I think
trying to compare with Peters to Party Mary, most people
in your own decision on that. But one thing I
will say, Jinny, you'll probably need a breeder disagree doors.
That has to be a whopping, great big one because
(12:24):
I don't think to Party Mary Party going to leave
you off the hook with some of the changes they
want to make.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Good to see both of you, and good luck and
why Marchal or the Hawks play in general. Mike Mitchell,
Ginny Anderson back next Wednesday, eight twenty two. For more
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Yes, I really when misted up again, now I'm a
baby's corner. Then the Torso when Jesse.
Speaker 2 (00:09):
Tossy Sons, who was trying to remember SoftBank ceo AI
that is ten thousand times smarter than humans going to
be here in teen years. I mean, that's it. He's right. This,
by the way, is posting posts Malone. He's he's hooked
up with Blake Shelton. Listen to this, it's just keeping
we in general. Post he makes a pastor his prime.
(00:33):
Shelton looks so good. Norman, he's a lot at the moment.
Posted because he hooked up with Morgan Wallen. I had
some help. That's the top song in America for the
sixth week running. This song comes from his album, which
is yet to be out August sixteen. If one Trillion
is the name, there are eighteen tracks on that. It
(00:55):
is ain't that. It's past eight Time for politics Wednesday,
Mark Mitchell, Ginny Anderson both whether it's good morning, good morning,
good morning, Mark, you're on the move. Talk to me
about what you know about hawks Bay wiroh Etca.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
I know that we're in a local state of emergency
in Hawk's Bay. That that is very isolated to one community.
The same with Laura and Lisbone. I've been speaking to
the MEAs throughout the morning. I'm on the way up
there now, you know, they just they can't catch a break. Obviously,
the focus life how is dealing with the flooding and
make sure that everyone's safe. But I've also got the
(01:29):
recovery toll you as well, so I'll be looking at
what we need to do to immediately get in and
help them recover.
Speaker 2 (01:34):
All right, good stuff, Jinny, I'm back in parliament yesterday.
Do you have too many breaks?
Speaker 1 (01:39):
Do you reckon too many breaks? Yeah? The party, this
Parliament station, it's.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
The first fun.
Speaker 1 (01:46):
We don't say so, but it does seem like we're
not there for a lot, and particularly post budgets, like
we want more time in the house to ask questions
as minister's part budget, and we yet three question times
in the sort of two to many seven weeks. We've
got three weeks off, one week on, three weeks off,
(02:07):
so da seem.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Like a lot this year.
Speaker 2 (02:09):
Yeah, and see I'm missing and I like a good
question time, as you well known, I'm sort of suddenly
this week after week of no question time these mark
is that the cracks appearing agree to disagree. We've got
cracks in the coalition already.
Speaker 3 (02:20):
No, No, that's look, it was a very good coalition
agreement that was put together, you know, obviously d by
the Prime Minister, and it was because there are going
to be things that parties bo't agree on that you
can do that and they're way and it's a through
strong coalition. I think everyone, all the ministers are enjoyed
working inside it and we're getting things done. And in
terms of the House sitting, I mean we've had a
massive program that we're actually delivering. We've just come through
(02:43):
a scrutiny week where the Minister's paid front of spectivities
more scrutiny than they've ever ahead, which is an important
thing because the opposition to have a job still in
terms of holding the government to account. But look, we've
got a massive lease heted program and we get in
we're pushing it through, all right.
Speaker 2 (02:58):
How many agree to disagrees need to be triggered before
people can go. I think something's gone wrong here.
Speaker 1 (03:06):
That's the proofs in the pudding, I suppose, and I
mean everyone I think watching for when when it's no
longer the Deputy Prime Minister. I think that's kind of
a critical time that people think if there are some
cracks there, if he starts tucking the toys, that'll be
when you.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
See it, So that'll be halfway.
Speaker 1 (03:24):
Well. I think he's got less investment, like if you've
in there now and you're right, but you know, I
think that's that's kind of the area that people are
watching to see if once he steps back from that
role and they would see more steps up to see
how that relationship continues.
Speaker 2 (03:39):
I am being fascincious Mike when I ask you about that.
It does seem like a mature thing, and I think
luxe and deserves an element of credit in putting that
in there in the first place. So because you're not
going to agree on a whole bunch of stuff, are.
Speaker 3 (03:50):
You, Well you're not, and that's you know, and that's
normal than any part of life. But the reality is
this is that every one of those parties, all of us,
realize what a parlor state their country are in. And
we have to be united and we have to be
a strong government that is focused on delivering and that
succepting what we're doing.
Speaker 2 (04:08):
Jinny, have you heard of Operation Yaka no, I can't
say head right. So Operation Yaker this was just once
again the boot camps and stuff like that, and people
I think you'd be in this camp that say, you know,
there's no evidence that it works. Operation Yak is a
thing in Australia. They claim a ninety percent success rate.
In other words, there are groups out there that do
work with troubled young people that do have levels of success.
(04:29):
So the broad based question is, given what we've been
doing doesn't work, and the crime rate is where it is,
why wouldn't you want to try something different.
Speaker 1 (04:39):
Well, I'd argue that the dropping ram Raids, they went
from one hundred and nineteen a month from the August
before I was minister down to I think around to
less than twenty a month now. That hardcore group of
repeat youth offenders who went through the programs we had,
which was a full wrap around program, about eighty six
percent of them did not reoffend. And I think that
(04:59):
dropping ram Raids is because those programs work, and Karen
Shaw had said they work, and they've picked them up
and continued those programs. So it'll be really interesting to
see what these boot camps actually look like because they're
more looking, less boot camping and more like what we're
already doing as the detail news.
Speaker 3 (05:20):
Sorry marke Cary might just just very quickly on there,
I said, right for the start, I mean, you know,
putting cambages in like bollards and bulk and as that's fine.
It gives that shopkeepers a bit more security, and you know,
on the margins they do work. However, I did say
at the time that all they do is they'll pivot
and they'll change your technics. And that's what they've done.
They've moved to aggravated robberies. And you could argue that
(05:42):
that's even worse. We saw the awful situation unfold and
Pepper Toot who visited the family the other day, and
by the way, I just have to say that, you know,
if each son Sonny hadn't stepped forward to defender's father,
then we probably would have indem held the fatality. And
he certainly felt that he was going to be killed.
And for anyone that thinks that these the top end
offenders aren't violent and doesn't need to be taken off
(06:05):
our streets and out of the community, just consider this.
The offenders for the attack followed him into the shop
and continued to strike him on the head with the hammer.
And by the way, a full shout out to his
amazing wife who also showed extraordinary courage and trying to
defend her husband. But this has to stop, and to
stop it, we're going to take those worst violent recidibus
(06:26):
to youth offenders. We're going to take them out of
the community, and we're going to invest in them through
this youth Military Academy, and we're going to try and
give them the best fighting charts to make good decisions
when they come out instead of continuing to make decisions
that hurt our communities.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Prey break more at the moment Marke Mintell, Jenny Anderson,
thirteen past news Sook's it be? Sixteen past eight Jenny
Anderson Marke Mintell, Jenny, A couple of things for you.
The employment changes that are come in for job secret
and you've got to go in and have a meeting
and go to a conference and all that, and I
get you probably don't like it, but part of what
that came out of was the number of people who
are on job Seeker who don't have case managers. How
can you justify will and extens of one hundred thousand
(07:00):
people who don't have a case manager.
Speaker 1 (07:03):
Well, I have no problem with people turning up and
checking in, but what's the point of it, as kind
of my concerned, give them a driver's license, give them
some on the job training, but just just sitting in
a hall and checking in and having a seminar.
Speaker 2 (07:16):
Or as it may, these people didn't have case managers.
Why do so many people not have case managers? They
were just left to drift.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
Well, they should have case managers, people in place. Maybe
they haven't had seven hundred jobs cut out at NESD
they might have it.
Speaker 2 (07:31):
No, no, no, no, this was Ginny. This was under you,
under your government. They didn't have case managers. One hundred
thousand plus people didn't have a case manager. They just
hopped on job secret and everyone forgot about them.
Speaker 1 (07:40):
Well, that needs to be rectified. But having a seminar
where they get some information and walk away again, and
then if they don't turn up to the seminar they
get kicked off, the kicked off the unemployment benefit. I
just don't see how that's going to work. What does
work is what we did, which gave on the job training,
which gave drivers' licenses, that gave people real skills that
made more employable. And what this does is absolutely nothing.
Speaker 2 (08:03):
Do you know what literally happens, Mark, Because I've received
a couple of texts and so basically you turn up
and they tell you to go to trade me and
have a look for jobs, and that's their advice for
the day.
Speaker 3 (08:13):
No, I think no. I think Louise Upset is bringing
a real focus onto making sure there is proper support
and the accountability. There's a social contract that exists with
us as a country whereas we have a very good
social welfare network and service and to help people, you
get up, give the hand up. But the reality is
this ke is that there is a responsibility on the
(08:35):
other side as well to try and get yourself job ready,
to try and have an honesty effort actually finding the
job and getting getting into employment. And I think that's
really important and that's what Louise is doing. Might just
really really quickly. I just want to finish what I
was saying about the crime. What I was saying is this,
We've got a deal. If you want to reduce the
rand roads and negravated robberies, we actually have to deal
with the offending and not put band aids on it,
(08:57):
and that is what we're focused on doing, is actually
getting people.
Speaker 1 (09:00):
Your Your boot camp's got tap places for ten people
in it. I think you just filled out loud.
Speaker 3 (09:05):
It's a warm The problem so that's the part and
the problem that you've got is that you've never understood,
is it on the fringes that the offenders that you know,
a lot of the eighty percent of the youth offenders,
you can actually deal with. You can put a program
around them, you can actually deal with them in the community.
It's it's the fifteen it's the ten to fifteen percent
that are the toughest, most recidivious violent offenders. Those are
(09:27):
the ones that we're targeting, and those are the ones
that we're and they're responsible for most of these aggravated
robberies that you see that has got a huge human
costly lines.
Speaker 2 (09:35):
The other thing for you, Jenny, the poll last night,
it seems to me that although you in a campaign
go for as many boats as you can and you
want to run the country by yourself and all that
sort of stuff, you're going to need the Maori Party,
how do you sit alongside what increasingly looks to me
like a bunch of nut jobs often ask, but it
seems more real. I mean, I get it with the Greens.
(09:57):
The Greens are crazy as well, but you can you
can coalesce with and we've got a track record. The
Maori Party want their own parliament, their own country Tena
rang a Tiara tongue and never the Twains you'll meet
and you've somehow got to put that together as a deal.
Speaker 1 (10:10):
Well, we don't support having things like a completely separate
from Marti parliament. There are some things we could stay
quite clearly we don't support. What we continue to do
is make a case for Art for being the next
government and pointing out some of the massive mistakes this
government has made. I gets your decisions, but.
Speaker 2 (10:28):
What are you going to do Because it's going to
it's going to be real and and unless you somehow
get to a point where you and the Greens are
the clear leaders and you can two party it, you're
going to need to three party it. And they're the
sort of crazies who are going to go, we don't
want anything to do with you, and that's going to
hobble your ambitions in the election campaign.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, i'd come out, I'd say that Winston's come out
and said some pretty nutty stuff over the last six months.
You know, he talked about the KKK and things like that.
So all political parties have in moments of stupid stuff.
And that's that's what Paul texas about. You make sure
that you make a case. But Labor works incredibly hard
(11:04):
to make sure we put forward real alternatives to what
this government is making an absolute meat out of. I mean,
cancer drugs alone has hurt so many key weeks in
terms of brilliant people tired and tired of national promising
and it's absolutely not.
Speaker 3 (11:24):
So you're comparing Watson Winston Peters to the very partty
Winston Peters.
Speaker 1 (11:28):
That was pretty stuff and it'll be interesting to say
when he's not.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And what let me give you.
Speaker 3 (11:35):
Let me give you a contrast between Winston Peter's the
last Labor for him.
Speaker 1 (11:38):
And it sounds like a joke and I can't, okay,
where we go.
Speaker 3 (11:41):
Well, you've just spoken, you know, just rebeled all for
five minutes. Give me a couple of minutes every day.
I just it. So basically, Mike, I just came back
from Switzerland with the Rushy Crow thing, and I can
tell you how Winston Peters is highly respected on the
world stage. He is a statesman, he is one of
our most experienced political leaders. He doesn't spout the sort
of nonsense and rubbish that you're talking about, and he's
(12:04):
been out there actually re establishing us on the world stage,
which is critically important because under the Labor government they
completely failed to do that. So, you know, I think
trying to compare with Peters to Party Mary, most people
in your own decision on that. But one thing I
will say, Jinny, you'll probably need a breeder disagree doors.
That has to be a whopping, great big one because
(12:24):
I don't think to Party Mary Party going to leave
you off the hook with some of the changes they
want to make.
Speaker 2 (12:29):
Good to see both of you, and good luck and
why Marchal or the Hawks play in general. Mike Mitchell,
Ginny Anderson back next Wednesday, eight twenty two. For more
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