A day of celebrations has turned violent in the UK after a car collided with pedestrians at Liverpool Football Club's victory parade.
Authorities say a 53-year-old white British man has been arrested and the area has been evacuated.
47 people were injured – 27 were taken to hospital, two with serious injuries, and 20 treated on scene.
UK Correspondent Rod Liddle told Mike Hosking it doesn’t appear to be connected to terrorism at this stage.
He says the motives are a complete mystery.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Got to get to the UK, of course, in Rod's
with this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Makee good morning, Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
So I've been watching Liverpool over the last couple of hours.
When they're excited, they have a parade, they're firing off
flaars at each other. Seventeen people are injured. So that's
one part of the story until we get this car
and this bloke who's been arrested. Do we know any
more what happened?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Nothing at all, And my guess is we won't know
much for a long time. What we know is that
the Daily Mail, which is not usually first to say this,
has described him as a white British bloke in his fifties.
So so let's kind of rule out terrorism. And I
(00:39):
don't know why terrorists would attack Liverpool fans who are
pro a massed, you know, don't know the British states.
So it's it's it's a it's a complete mystery. At
the moment. It seems like a grudge. It could be
in evidence of what I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Having said that, so Starmer gets briefed. Does he get
briefed on anything that even looks close to this? Or
is this he getting brief because they know something that's
not public.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
In I'm sure they those things which aren't public yet.
I'm sure they know things, and I'm sure that Kirstarmer
is told about them. But for the rest of us,
we're in the same level of mystery as you are.
It seems to me, you know, it's a wonderful day
for Liverpool, for the city of Liverpool. Not only of
(01:25):
Liverpool done very well. Everton have done very well this year.
It is a bizarre occurrence and it seems to me
not to be collected to terrorism. I mean, I may
be proved wrong, but it is hard to imagine why
that would be a terrorist attacker from the profile of
the attacker and the profile of the people who were attacked.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
All Right, we'll see what happens. There's winter fuel, a
couple of things out of the government, so this winter
fuel u turn. So Starmer goes to the treasuring guys.
That'll be three and a half billion you'll need to
find thanks very much. How's this going to play? Has
he solved the problem or has he just dug himself
a financial hole or does he look like a guy
can't make up his mind?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I think the last of those. I mean, it's very
interesting is that I think that refusing to give the
pensioners winter fuel payments back in October September October and
then awarding doctors and train drivers a huge pay rise
was terribly bad optics for the Labor Party and for
(02:27):
the government of the sekire Stama and has cost them
and cost them big. Paradoxically, I don't think that reversing
his policy gains him many votes. Do you know what
I mean that? I think once you've made that decision,
what you made that decision to go back on it,
he looks a bit like weakness. B you've got it
(02:48):
wrong first time around. He's not going to pick up
many votes for it, and it will cost a lot
of money. So I think he is in huge trouble here,
partly over that, partly over there's going to be some
sort of climbed down over disability benefits as well, which
recks completely Rachel Reeves's plans to have us back on
(03:13):
a track for growth. However, one is doing abroad, but
I'm not so sure he is at the moment. He
is doing very very badly at home. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And the funny you should say that because I read
a piece over the weekend in American paper, headline was
Starmer has delivered key wins for the UK, So why
is he so unpopular and so essentially it's just what
you've seen.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, yes, I wonder if he has. He delivered an
a trade deal with India which was quite good but
had ramifications. He's now kind of negotiated a deal with
the USA which at the moment looks very good indeed,
but we will see how it transpires when Trump has
(03:59):
finished with the negotiating with the EU. The problem is,
you know, mic, as we've talked before, Foreign Office of
Foreign Policy successes do not commend a prime minister to
the nation. It's got to be at home. And that
was true even of Winston Church in forty five. They
(04:19):
couldn't have had a greater triumph. So it doesn't translate
into votes. What translates into votes is how much money
you've got in your pocket. But what you're doing about
immigration now, on immigration, that's been cut in two over
the last year, but that's largely by conservative measures which
(04:40):
were brought in a year and a half ago. So
he's in a very difficult spot.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And the other thing I watched Angela Rhino, who was
on the BBC over the weekend. This two child benefit cap,
which during the campaign or just after the campaign, I
can't remember. They said, we're not changing it's a two
child that's now they're backing down on that. What's the
rationale behind that and how does that apply?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I don't get that at all. I think most of
the country is behind the idea of a cap on
the two benefit on two children. It is start giving
into his left wing at the same time as enraging
his left wing. Always statements about migration, statements about Enoch power,
or which are alluding to knock Owl. I think he
(05:25):
is kind of I think the compass is going to
ry and he doesn't know what he's aiming at at
the moment, and I think that is a real problem
for the future. It's why they're nine points behind reforming
the polls, and that gap to me seems to look
to grow, seems likely to grow larger.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Just real quick, who do you reckons burning down his houses?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I am too worried to tell you, to be honest,
there's loads of conspiracy theories on the right which are
all about Sekeir Starmer. Given that all three of these
guys who were accused or have worked as rent boys,
but they are I am genuinely really worried about this, Mike.
(06:10):
I think this is a problem which the UK is
going to have to grapple with because the sniff of
Russian involvement is too strong to be dispelled.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, we will see where it goes and catch up
with you on Thursday. Appreciate it has always rod a
little out of the UK. The rail which I briefly
mentioned yesterday, a chunk of the rail service in that
part of the world, The Southwestern Railway has been renationalized
and it reopened on Sunday Monday yesterday. At their time
out it's a new dawn for rail I did allude
yesterday to the fact the five point thirty six, which
(06:41):
was the first service from Woking to Surbiton through the
ongoing journey to Waterloo, was a bus not a train,
so they didn't start particularly well. Unfortunately. The SWR trains
and now the responsibility of the DFT, which is the
Department for Transport, their particular operator and it will be
integrated into Great British Railways GBR. The problem with Great
(07:06):
British Railways is they don't even exist because MPs haven't
voted for it to exist, so they've renationalized a line
that they put a bus for on day one to
be overseen by a company that doesn't exist because they
haven't voted.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So here's your new chrain service.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We've wrapped it up in this nice big ball of
red tape for you. It's level. It's so British, isn't it.
For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to
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Got to get to the UK, of course, in Rod's
with this morning.
Speaker 2 (00:02):
Makee good morning, Mike.
Speaker 1 (00:03):
So I've been watching Liverpool over the last couple of hours.
When they're excited, they have a parade, they're firing off
flaars at each other. Seventeen people are injured. So that's
one part of the story until we get this car
and this bloke who's been arrested. Do we know any
more what happened?
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Nothing at all, And my guess is we won't know
much for a long time. What we know is that
the Daily Mail, which is not usually first to say this,
has described him as a white British bloke in his fifties.
So so let's kind of rule out terrorism. And I
(00:39):
don't know why terrorists would attack Liverpool fans who are
pro a massed, you know, don't know the British states.
So it's it's it's a it's a complete mystery. At
the moment. It seems like a grudge. It could be
in evidence of what I don't know.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Having said that, so Starmer gets briefed. Does he get
briefed on anything that even looks close to this? Or
is this he getting brief because they know something that's
not public.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
In I'm sure they those things which aren't public yet.
I'm sure they know things, and I'm sure that Kirstarmer
is told about them. But for the rest of us,
we're in the same level of mystery as you are.
It seems to me, you know, it's a wonderful day
for Liverpool, for the city of Liverpool. Not only of
(01:25):
Liverpool done very well. Everton have done very well this year.
It is a bizarre occurrence and it seems to me
not to be collected to terrorism. I mean, I may
be proved wrong, but it is hard to imagine why
that would be a terrorist attacker from the profile of
the attacker and the profile of the people who were attacked.
Speaker 1 (01:48):
All Right, we'll see what happens. There's winter fuel, a
couple of things out of the government, so this winter
fuel u turn. So Starmer goes to the treasuring guys.
That'll be three and a half billion you'll need to
find thanks very much. How's this going to play? Has
he solved the problem or has he just dug himself
a financial hole or does he look like a guy
can't make up his mind?
Speaker 2 (02:07):
I think the last of those. I mean, it's very
interesting is that I think that refusing to give the
pensioners winter fuel payments back in October September October and
then awarding doctors and train drivers a huge pay rise
was terribly bad optics for the Labor Party and for
(02:27):
the government of the sekire Stama and has cost them
and cost them big. Paradoxically, I don't think that reversing
his policy gains him many votes. Do you know what
I mean that? I think once you've made that decision,
what you made that decision to go back on it,
he looks a bit like weakness. B you've got it
(02:48):
wrong first time around. He's not going to pick up
many votes for it, and it will cost a lot
of money. So I think he is in huge trouble here,
partly over that, partly over there's going to be some
sort of climbed down over disability benefits as well, which
recks completely Rachel Reeves's plans to have us back on
(03:13):
a track for growth. However, one is doing abroad, but
I'm not so sure he is at the moment. He
is doing very very badly at home. Yeah.
Speaker 1 (03:23):
And the funny you should say that because I read
a piece over the weekend in American paper, headline was
Starmer has delivered key wins for the UK, So why
is he so unpopular and so essentially it's just what
you've seen.
Speaker 2 (03:37):
Well, yes, I wonder if he has. He delivered an
a trade deal with India which was quite good but
had ramifications. He's now kind of negotiated a deal with
the USA which at the moment looks very good indeed,
but we will see how it transpires when Trump has
(03:59):
finished with the negotiating with the EU. The problem is,
you know, mic, as we've talked before, Foreign Office of
Foreign Policy successes do not commend a prime minister to
the nation. It's got to be at home. And that
was true even of Winston Church in forty five. They
(04:19):
couldn't have had a greater triumph. So it doesn't translate
into votes. What translates into votes is how much money
you've got in your pocket. But what you're doing about
immigration now, on immigration, that's been cut in two over
the last year, but that's largely by conservative measures which
(04:40):
were brought in a year and a half ago. So
he's in a very difficult spot.
Speaker 1 (04:45):
And the other thing I watched Angela Rhino, who was
on the BBC over the weekend. This two child benefit cap,
which during the campaign or just after the campaign, I
can't remember. They said, we're not changing it's a two
child that's now they're backing down on that. What's the
rationale behind that and how does that apply?
Speaker 2 (05:01):
I don't get that at all. I think most of
the country is behind the idea of a cap on
the two benefit on two children. It is start giving
into his left wing at the same time as enraging
his left wing. Always statements about migration, statements about Enoch power,
or which are alluding to knock Owl. I think he
(05:25):
is kind of I think the compass is going to
ry and he doesn't know what he's aiming at at
the moment, and I think that is a real problem
for the future. It's why they're nine points behind reforming
the polls, and that gap to me seems to look
to grow, seems likely to grow larger.
Speaker 1 (05:44):
Just real quick, who do you reckons burning down his houses?
Speaker 2 (05:48):
I am too worried to tell you, to be honest,
there's loads of conspiracy theories on the right which are
all about Sekeir Starmer. Given that all three of these
guys who were accused or have worked as rent boys,
but they are I am genuinely really worried about this, Mike.
(06:10):
I think this is a problem which the UK is
going to have to grapple with because the sniff of
Russian involvement is too strong to be dispelled.
Speaker 1 (06:19):
Well, we will see where it goes and catch up
with you on Thursday. Appreciate it has always rod a
little out of the UK. The rail which I briefly
mentioned yesterday, a chunk of the rail service in that
part of the world, The Southwestern Railway has been renationalized
and it reopened on Sunday Monday yesterday. At their time
out it's a new dawn for rail I did allude
yesterday to the fact the five point thirty six, which
(06:41):
was the first service from Woking to Surbiton through the
ongoing journey to Waterloo, was a bus not a train,
so they didn't start particularly well. Unfortunately. The SWR trains
and now the responsibility of the DFT, which is the
Department for Transport, their particular operator and it will be
integrated into Great British Railways GBR. The problem with Great
(07:06):
British Railways is they don't even exist because MPs haven't
voted for it to exist, so they've renationalized a line
that they put a bus for on day one to
be overseen by a company that doesn't exist because they
haven't voted.
Speaker 2 (07:20):
So here's your new chrain service.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
We've wrapped it up in this nice big ball of
red tape for you. It's level. It's so British, isn't it.
For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast, listen live to
news talks that'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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