September 24, 2025 • 7 mins
Ryan Fox has had an excellent run this year.
He’s back in New Zealand off the back of a season that includes two PGA Tour wins and a Guinness World Record.
The end of the year also brings with it the return of the increasingly popular ‘Chasing the Fox’ event, which is now into his fourth year.
Despite his major success this year, not much has changed in regards to Fox’s mentality.
“I’ve always believed my golf was good enough to beat the best players in the world,” he told Mike Hosking.
“Especially in that Canadian Open, I did beat a decent chunk of them that week, and you know, you’ve always got that in the back of your mind that, yeah, I’ve done it once, I know I can do it if I’m in that situation again.”
“It’s easier once you know you’ve done it.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Time for a catch up with Ryan Fox, who is home.
I assume, apart from anything reflecting on what has been
an excellent year two tour titles, PGA two at titles
of course, and you might have seen this week a
world record holder as well. Anyway, we'll explain all of that,
and Ryan Fox is whether it's good to see you
and you look well and healthy and vibrant. And I
guess that's what winning does for a person.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah. Yeah, it's coming back this year and it feels
a little bit different. You know. I've achieved a dream
this year, which is pretty cool to be able to
say winning on the PGA Tour. And now I've got
eight weeks off and get to be a dad and
do some fishing and hang around in your zelle. I
haven't spent much time here this year, so looking forward
to it.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Are you a relaxer? Can you walk away for eight
weeks or not?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No? No, I got dad's jeans in that regard. Unfortunately,
he's never been one that's good at relaxing either. So
I need to do stuff like you know, I'll do
stuff with the kids, I'll go fishing, I'll catch up
with friends and you know, I'll have some corporate days
and stuff like that to play, but I will be
able to stay away from the golf course at.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Least, So you're playing before the end of the year again.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, I've got got two events in Ozzie, PGA Aussie Open,
which are last week of November, first week of December,
and then got some golf days and stuff early early December,
and then back into the PGA Tour early January.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And you're doing the Australian thing for what reason? I
mean other than winning obviously, I mean, is that to
keep you in touch before you hit the PGA again.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yep. Yeah, So you know, if I took three months off,
I feel like it to take a while to get
back to that level. And going to Ossie. You know,
they're great events. We get to play the Aussie Open
at Royal Melbourne, which is always regarded as one of
the best golf courses in the world, and they're always
really good events to play. So it's kind of it's
I feel like that's the start of my season. This
(01:39):
is my holiday right now, and then you know, those
Aussie events are the start of the season and I
got another few weeks off and then get properly back
into it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
How long does it take you to get back into it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I always feel like I need a couple of events
to to find it. Like I'm some guys are really
good at just practicing and turning up to an event
they're ready to go. I tend to be one of
those guys. I need to find the confidence on the
golf course and that it's different playing in a tournament
pressure and you know, if you can hit some shots
that are good when it counts, that's where I get
(02:12):
my confidence from. So you know, I always I've never
been great like first week back, I kind of need,
you know, one under my bolt to kind of find it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
How's your year and how's you will changed with the
level of success in that sense, Do you front at
a tournament feeling different about yourself now?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
A little bit? I mean, I guess I can look
back on it now and go I've always believed that
my good golf was good enough to beat the best
players in the world, and you know, especially in that
Canadian Open, it I did beat a decent chunk of
them that week, And you know, you've always got that
in the back of your mind that I've done it
once I know I can do it if I'm in
(02:51):
that situation again, It's it's easier once you know you've
done it, but then you've also got that expectation that
you kind of spec to play well, and sometimes, you know,
expectation doesn't quite live up to reality in that regard.
So it was a tough end to the season. But
you know, I feel like I belong a bit more
on the PGA tour and I've got guaranteed status going forward,
(03:13):
and you know, it's a little bit easier to play
when you don't have the pressure of trying to keep
your job on your shoulders.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Do people see you differently, treat you differently? So when
you go to Melbourne, for example, you you go as
a heavier weight now than you have previously.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, definitely that has changed quite a lot in the
last well this year. Basically, you know, getting bigger groups
on a Thursday and Friday, which generally means you're more
of a marquee player and certainly get noticed a bit
more at events. And you know, definitely back home in
New Zealand than I have done in previous.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Years, which is is that enjoyable?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, it's weird. I mean obviously, I grew up with
it with dad and I Yeah, I find it strange
that people show that much interest. Like I just whack
a white all around, and I'm somewhat good at it
at times. It's it's really cool, but it's yeah, I
still find it quite strange.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I always remember Michael Campbell when he won the Big Open.
He said, the beatter you get, the easier it becomes.
Is that true? And the cheaper it becomes as well.
And I remember interviewing Mark Brown. You mean Mark So
he used to drive across Canada with his mates in
a rental car because they couldn't afford the car, and
then he'd stay at Motel six and stuff like that.
(04:25):
But you know, as you get more successful, it's it
all gets laid out in front of you.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, it kind of goes the wrong way in that regard,
Like the people coming up are the ones that need
the help, need the free hotel rooms, get paid to
play in all of that. But from a commercial sense,
it's the big guys that generate all the income for
a tournament, so they're the ones that get locked after. Properly,
I'm certainly not and Rory Shoes or anything like that,
but you know, get the odd free room and get
(04:51):
looked after at tournaments and stuff like that, and it
certainly gets easier in that regard. But you've also got
a few more time commitments that you have to do,
you know, filming for events and social media and stuff
like that that come with being one of those top players.
And it's yeah, some ways it gets easier, Like the
money side gets easier, the you know, you're not playing
(05:12):
for your job all of that stuff, but you get
a bit more asked of your time.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
What's the difference between you and Scheffler or you and
Rory as you look at them in a tournament.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I mean in percentage, it's probably not that much, but
that percentage means a lot over four days ago. You know,
I think we're looking at someone in scottis Cheffer Now
that is just crazy good, Like he's the best since Tiger,
which is saying something. And Rory's been in the top
ten of the world rankings for near on twenty years now.
(05:48):
You know, those they're just they're the best, and they're like.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
But you can't see it and it's not I played
with Peter Senior, you remember him half and I watched
with Peterson, and I mean, I was no good. I
was just a pro am thing. But I watched him
and I thought, there's not a lot about you that's
so much clearly, so much better than me. But it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I came to the conclusion it was consistency. Everything he
did worked and the reason you're not him is because
everything you do doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, obviously it's not that extreme like you know, but Scotty.
Scott is the consistent one. Scotty is the one that
does it. He just hits every shot that you need
to have. He drives it well. He has iron plays
the best in the world by long way. Short game
is really solid. He's turned himself into a great part
of and that's why he's in contention every week. He
doesn't have a weakness. Rory is the guy that you
(06:44):
watch and he does the stuff that you can't quite believe.
Like Rory hits a few shots that you just scratch
your head out and go, I don't have that. And
I think for me, if Rory plays his best, he's
probably the best player in the world. But Scotty plays
his best weekend week out, and Rory does it more
a few weeks a year. But Scott is the one
you look at and go, well, I feel like you
(07:05):
could kind of get to that level because it's just consistent.
Rory just hits a few shots that are just unbelievable,
and he's the guy that you know, that's why he
gets he's still the big draw card. He can hit that.
You know, you watch the Masters. Some of those shots
he hit coming down the stretch were just unbelievable, both
in a good sense and a bad sense. And that's yeah,
(07:25):
that's why he's so good to watch, and that's what like,
you feel like you can't compete with him when he's
in full flow.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But Scott is just and that's that's what it gets
before you get to the mental thing. Always good to
catch up with you, mate, Go well and good luck
with Chasing the Fox. Thanks Mike, thanks for having nice
to see Ryan Fox. For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast,
listen live to news talks it'd be from six am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
Time for a catch up with Ryan Fox, who is home.
I assume, apart from anything reflecting on what has been
an excellent year two tour titles, PGA two at titles
of course, and you might have seen this week a
world record holder as well. Anyway, we'll explain all of that,
and Ryan Fox is whether it's good to see you
and you look well and healthy and vibrant. And I
guess that's what winning does for a person.
Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah. Yeah, it's coming back this year and it feels
a little bit different. You know. I've achieved a dream
this year, which is pretty cool to be able to
say winning on the PGA Tour. And now I've got
eight weeks off and get to be a dad and
do some fishing and hang around in your zelle. I
haven't spent much time here this year, so looking forward
to it.
Speaker 1 (00:35):
Are you a relaxer? Can you walk away for eight
weeks or not?
Speaker 2 (00:38):
No? No, I got dad's jeans in that regard. Unfortunately,
he's never been one that's good at relaxing either. So
I need to do stuff like you know, I'll do
stuff with the kids, I'll go fishing, I'll catch up
with friends and you know, I'll have some corporate days
and stuff like that to play, but I will be
able to stay away from the golf course at.
Speaker 1 (00:56):
Least, So you're playing before the end of the year again.
Speaker 2 (00:59):
Yeah, I've got got two events in Ozzie, PGA Aussie Open,
which are last week of November, first week of December,
and then got some golf days and stuff early early December,
and then back into the PGA Tour early January.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
And you're doing the Australian thing for what reason? I
mean other than winning obviously, I mean, is that to
keep you in touch before you hit the PGA again.
Speaker 2 (01:18):
Yep. Yeah, So you know, if I took three months off,
I feel like it to take a while to get
back to that level. And going to Ossie. You know,
they're great events. We get to play the Aussie Open
at Royal Melbourne, which is always regarded as one of
the best golf courses in the world, and they're always
really good events to play. So it's kind of it's
I feel like that's the start of my season. This
(01:39):
is my holiday right now, and then you know, those
Aussie events are the start of the season and I
got another few weeks off and then get properly back
into it.
Speaker 1 (01:47):
How long does it take you to get back into it.
Speaker 2 (01:51):
I always feel like I need a couple of events
to to find it. Like I'm some guys are really
good at just practicing and turning up to an event
they're ready to go. I tend to be one of
those guys. I need to find the confidence on the
golf course and that it's different playing in a tournament
pressure and you know, if you can hit some shots
that are good when it counts, that's where I get
(02:12):
my confidence from. So you know, I always I've never
been great like first week back, I kind of need,
you know, one under my bolt to kind of find it.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
How's your year and how's you will changed with the
level of success in that sense, Do you front at
a tournament feeling different about yourself now?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
A little bit? I mean, I guess I can look
back on it now and go I've always believed that
my good golf was good enough to beat the best
players in the world, and you know, especially in that
Canadian Open, it I did beat a decent chunk of
them that week, And you know, you've always got that
in the back of your mind that I've done it
once I know I can do it if I'm in
(02:51):
that situation again, It's it's easier once you know you've
done it, but then you've also got that expectation that
you kind of spec to play well, and sometimes, you know,
expectation doesn't quite live up to reality in that regard.
So it was a tough end to the season. But
you know, I feel like I belong a bit more
on the PGA tour and I've got guaranteed status going forward,
(03:13):
and you know, it's a little bit easier to play
when you don't have the pressure of trying to keep
your job on your shoulders.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Do people see you differently, treat you differently? So when
you go to Melbourne, for example, you you go as
a heavier weight now than you have previously.
Speaker 2 (03:28):
Yeah, definitely that has changed quite a lot in the
last well this year. Basically, you know, getting bigger groups
on a Thursday and Friday, which generally means you're more
of a marquee player and certainly get noticed a bit
more at events. And you know, definitely back home in
New Zealand than I have done in previous.
Speaker 1 (03:48):
Years, which is is that enjoyable?
Speaker 2 (03:50):
Yeah, it's weird. I mean obviously, I grew up with
it with dad and I Yeah, I find it strange
that people show that much interest. Like I just whack
a white all around, and I'm somewhat good at it
at times. It's it's really cool, but it's yeah, I
still find it quite strange.
Speaker 1 (04:05):
I always remember Michael Campbell when he won the Big Open.
He said, the beatter you get, the easier it becomes.
Is that true? And the cheaper it becomes as well.
And I remember interviewing Mark Brown. You mean Mark So
he used to drive across Canada with his mates in
a rental car because they couldn't afford the car, and
then he'd stay at Motel six and stuff like that.
(04:25):
But you know, as you get more successful, it's it
all gets laid out in front of you.
Speaker 2 (04:30):
Yeah, it kind of goes the wrong way in that regard,
Like the people coming up are the ones that need
the help, need the free hotel rooms, get paid to
play in all of that. But from a commercial sense,
it's the big guys that generate all the income for
a tournament, so they're the ones that get locked after. Properly,
I'm certainly not and Rory Shoes or anything like that,
but you know, get the odd free room and get
(04:51):
looked after at tournaments and stuff like that, and it
certainly gets easier in that regard. But you've also got
a few more time commitments that you have to do,
you know, filming for events and social media and stuff
like that that come with being one of those top players.
And it's yeah, some ways it gets easier, Like the
money side gets easier, the you know, you're not playing
(05:12):
for your job all of that stuff, but you get
a bit more asked of your time.
Speaker 1 (05:17):
What's the difference between you and Scheffler or you and
Rory as you look at them in a tournament.
Speaker 2 (05:25):
I mean in percentage, it's probably not that much, but
that percentage means a lot over four days ago. You know,
I think we're looking at someone in scottis Cheffer Now
that is just crazy good, Like he's the best since Tiger,
which is saying something. And Rory's been in the top
ten of the world rankings for near on twenty years now.
(05:48):
You know, those they're just they're the best, and they're like.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
But you can't see it and it's not I played
with Peter Senior, you remember him half and I watched
with Peterson, and I mean, I was no good. I
was just a pro am thing. But I watched him
and I thought, there's not a lot about you that's
so much clearly, so much better than me. But it wasn't.
Speaker 2 (06:11):
But it was.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
I came to the conclusion it was consistency. Everything he
did worked and the reason you're not him is because
everything you do doesn't work.
Speaker 2 (06:19):
Yeah, obviously it's not that extreme like you know, but Scotty.
Scott is the consistent one. Scotty is the one that
does it. He just hits every shot that you need
to have. He drives it well. He has iron plays
the best in the world by long way. Short game
is really solid. He's turned himself into a great part
of and that's why he's in contention every week. He
doesn't have a weakness. Rory is the guy that you
(06:44):
watch and he does the stuff that you can't quite believe.
Like Rory hits a few shots that you just scratch
your head out and go, I don't have that. And
I think for me, if Rory plays his best, he's
probably the best player in the world. But Scotty plays
his best weekend week out, and Rory does it more
a few weeks a year. But Scott is the one
you look at and go, well, I feel like you
(07:05):
could kind of get to that level because it's just consistent.
Rory just hits a few shots that are just unbelievable,
and he's the guy that you know, that's why he
gets he's still the big draw card. He can hit that.
You know, you watch the Masters. Some of those shots
he hit coming down the stretch were just unbelievable, both
in a good sense and a bad sense. And that's yeah,
(07:25):
that's why he's so good to watch, and that's what like,
you feel like you can't compete with him when he's
in full flow.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
But Scott is just and that's that's what it gets
before you get to the mental thing. Always good to
catch up with you, mate, Go well and good luck
with Chasing the Fox. Thanks Mike, thanks for having nice
to see Ryan Fox. For more from the Mike Asking Breakfast,
listen live to news talks it'd be from six am weekdays,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
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