The Scott Robertson All Blacks Era has officially begun.
Yesterday saw him announce his first squad, with Scott Barrett taking the captaincy and Ardie Savea and Jodie Barrett filling the role of deputies.
Robertson told Mike Hosking that it was good to get on with it as they’ve been tracking the players for a long time, so it felt to goof to finalise the squad and put it out there.
He’s not yet sure how different his era of the All Blacks is going to be, but a big part of what he’d like to do is bring a bit more insight and connection to who they are and how they do things to the public.
“A big part of what I have to do is bring the past and legacy with us, so that’s what you’ll see off the field, but on the field a team that can adapt, play different ways, play the team in front of us to be connected and find ways to win.”
“You know, good Kiwi DNA, find ways to be connected and find ways to win.”
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What you're gonna do when I'm a non d You know,
miss Steel sending bill, Oh, where's hey?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know miss Steal sending bill?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Oh where's hey? You knows well. The Scott Robertson All
Black Zerra Hair has officially begun to announce the first
squad yesterday evening named as Captain Scott Barrett. Of course,
now the questions turned to the starting twenty three the
English loom in a couple of weeks in Scott Robertson
is with us. Good morning, Good morning, Mike. How'd it
feel yesterday?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It was good. It was good to get on with it.
You know, it's been a while and we've been checking
the players for a long time. We had more stitchs
and the felt like we were just finalizing the squad
and actually putting it out there and adducing the nation.
Was good, so we can get it insteady now, good.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
From the time you got appointed to this particular point
in time for the non rugby officionado, what is it
you do literally every day? And what have you done?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Normally start with a sif, but we there's a lot
of names. It's there's a lot of work. You do
a lot of work, and besides do you watch European rugby,
you watch your local rugby obviously super you track your players.
But because back in the last year member, you know,
(01:16):
I hide eighteen ye staff or a new sorry management group,
and this year's been focusing on getting a selection right
and how we're going to play. And then because it's
a new new start, new language, new terminology and new
mindset for everything. So there's been a lot of planning,
but you still you just want to get on the
rugby field.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
How different do you think it's going to be this
year under you?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
How different? Now? Oh, I haven't thought about that one. Like, uh,
I think people know who I am. I think don't
get me. I beat myself along the way. I just
think big part of what I was in our scene
this year for for the publics together we walk, but
I think they'd be a little bit. We're insights, a
lot more connection to who we are, how we do things,
(02:04):
and you know, a big part of what I have
to do is bring the past, the legacy with us.
So that's what you'll see off the field, But on
the field somewhat are too. Nick in adept played different ways,
played the team in front of us to win that game.
You know, good que DNA be connected and find ways
to win.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Very good answer. A couple of things in that one,
because I worry about and I've seen it over the years.
You will have to the pressure gets to coaches and
their personality changes. They get crushed. Are you confident that
you're not one of those people.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I've got doctor Kerry Evans with a clinical psychologist and
forensic psychologist. I know he's the music good man to
have in your team. Look, look, look, I'm going to
be myself. I'm like you know, you know, when lose
your tour, I'll be honest. I'll be really clear and open.
I think gets one of the things that you know
(03:00):
when you do your view with players, they know that
what they're going to get, and I'm sure that or
the nation will be the same with it. Look, I
love the roles and responsibility of the job, like selection
and stuff. So I'm looking forward, like I said, to
bring you every one too together and I'm sure you'll
keep me accountable.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, no, I will.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The the other part of your answer was good that
the adapt thing because I'm just a casual. You know,
I'm just a passionate follower of the sport. But one
thing I've noticed over the years with the All Blacks,
when things go wrong, they don't appear to have a
plan be So was that comment deliberately at that? You
see the same thing we do that that somehow on
a field you need to move and adapt when things
unfold in front of you.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yep. Yeah, Look what one thing when you lived in
and question, which is you know that when your neighbor's Antarctica,
the weather's going to changely and you're going to have
to adapt to it if it comes in the warm up,
So you have to have a couple of soles to play,
you know when when the set aff contems around. We
did a lot of work aound how to beat those
big men, you know, even when we're Japan. We had
(04:04):
lots of word key structures that we could adapt and
change and a lot of the messages that I'd send
down they're already doing it. So you know he've done
your job as a coach. So the strategy is a
very important and look, it's not major stuff. It's just
clarity of what's in front of you and what in
how can you do it quickly? So everyone will even
(04:25):
the front rower right onto it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The governance, the governance of the game and all the
stuff that's been going on since your appointment off the field,
has that affected provincial review, the debate that all that
stuff has it affected you in any way in terms
of what you're doing with your job or not?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Arms lengths, mate, That's how I've done it, like it's
actually that issue is not my problem, so I don't
actually have to solve. But Robbo has been really good
at when it starts high performance, real zena becomes an
issue and I need to understand what's happening. I do.
I have an understanding, but I don't have anything to
do with that. Hands on. Look, I'm a when my
(05:06):
role and he's in rugby and all the perception of
her orders. But that's Mark's job and he's been really
good along with Dane and dealing with it. So at
the moment, arms length good stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Hold on, mate, more questions in the moment. Scott Robertson
All Blacks coach thirteen past eight News Exever quarter past eight.
Scott Robertson, or Black's coach is with us as regards Scott,
the game itself, the rules, the debate around at the pace,
the slows down, stop starts. What's your view of it?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, it could have made the game quicker. It's an
entertainment sport. People want. Every sport around the globally is
doing the same thing, the same training them. I want
to make it quicker. They want to use reviews, how
they use the TV and the cycle. It's getting better
(05:54):
among the couples of the law committee. Stuff that we
talk about. So the first thing is for sake, but
also speed of the game, and we can do it
in the safety in conjunction. Well, we're trending in the
right way, but we're moving, you're moving the right way.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Okay, Pace and fitness do you need to look at
that as far as the All Blacks are concerned, Are
we a fitter fast aside?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Wow, coming out of Super Rugby, it's a good question. Look,
the one thing is, you know, we chase the winter
and test footy and you get your guys coming off
the back of you know, Super Rugby, so you don't
get a period of time around the fitness side of it.
But Nicoli he's bringing over twenty years. You look at that,
that's a big load and the test weeks is one
(06:42):
of the things I looked at. I just couldn't fare
them how much load and work they do then inside
of it. But yeah, there's it's a contact, it's a
physical game that the higher the level and rugby you get,
the more physicality there's. It's like any other sports, like
start of Project Origin. You know, the brutality, there's a
big square headers. You look a lot more at body weight,
(07:05):
especially in those kits, and you look at people who
can use the top of their shoulder and repeat if
it's back to back to back. So huge physicality.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What about the rust factor and this traditional thing we're
by You've you've got now, you've got your side, and
you get all that, then you put them together. You've
only got a couple of weeks to mold them into
something that's a unit. How hard a task is that?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It depends how you frame it, Mike, Like, you know
we've got from Wednesday when we all get together. You
know we've got that teen period. You got to get
the first day right. This's the number one job. Get
that right, and you'll get the next day right. And
how and because we're in a new facility and jured
cis with which is we're we're the last place in
the world, really last country in the world not to
(07:53):
have a high performance for the facility where all our
teams in black go to. So for that to be there,
it's huge. You're not in Auckland traffic. You know, you
win transitions. You know, you can have more meetings, more
time on the field, and that's got a green room
for the for the wedding and rain and when so
looked at, this may make you a big difference for
us to get the rugby part, the cultural, the connection
(08:15):
piece in the leadership right.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Good speaking of leadership, what's it like? Most people put
an add on trade me or seek and people apply
for the job. You get to pick your own people,
not players, but the McDonald and co. Alongside you. What's
it like to have the people you picked their your men.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, it's great. It's good to have you know, runs
on the board. It's good to have the connection, the
personal connection. Also the professional side of it. So they're
obviously at the high end of the physical profession, but
also something that you can trust, someone that can have
that conversation that's required and get good direct feedback. You know,
normally like your wife and and then then then you
(08:58):
can fast track. You're not hiding stuff you know you
can get you can move on. So people know how
I work, they support someone like a Josh Roan. We
work ultimately to get a beautify together because we've we've
been through a lot, We've got a lot of history.
We know how we work and we can complement each other.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Explain the crusaders this year to us.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
We regain. This wasn't on the list. I don't think
there was a list, but there.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Was just just for the record, there wasn't a list.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay, oh, look, you know it's difficult to watch in
lots of ways. You know I felt and you've wide
it with them, but also you look at a different eye.
There's you're always going to be a part of it,
you know, because your history in your in your life
and time with it, but you're looking at a different eye. Look,
got to feel for them, you know there was it
(09:51):
gave so much games of fine margins and you know
they weren't beat on on effort. It's if when you
start getting big on effort and the care goes, that
was still there. So you know that there's only little
margins and top sport and that that's didn't quite enough
of those, right.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Do you follow the Warriors at all?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Did you see the weekend's game?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes? I did? Sixers and I want it?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah. So Andrew Webster, my love, he's like you. He's passionate,
he's got a certain something about him with players. He
seemed to have a side. Right. Then it falls apart
in that way. What do you do?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
The first thing you've got to you've got to do
is you normally have a little game model that he'll
look at, so you don't start making pulling things in
that part of what you've discussed before. Have you got
it right? Was the number one thing he'll if someone's
going to put sixty six on you. Your mindset wasn't right
(10:57):
for the day. It doesn't matter all your structure and
skill set and where I'm to be. The mindset is
your shoulder wasn't ready to could put it through the
person in front of you. So why did he keep
that wrong? And obviously what he did with the Panthers
a couple of weeks earlier in the role they've been on.
What is it the week that got wrong? The leadership
they go wrong? So he'll look at himself. You know, no,
(11:20):
we've been done a bit of work with him and
he he'll look at himself. What did he not get right?
Because and then then you to be honest with the
group and sit down. Have we good at HUI and
so radio? But own it and what happens next?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Good stuff. I'm super excited for you, mate, and I
hope it goes brilliantly well the whole season, but starting
with England's good fun. So it's good to catch up
and go well. Best of luck to you, Cheers, Mike
Love talk. Thank you Scott Robinson, all Blacks coach. For
more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news Talks.
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
(11:55):
on iHeartRadio
What you're gonna do when I'm a non d You know,
miss Steel sending bill, Oh, where's hey?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
You know miss Steal sending bill?
Speaker 1 (00:07):
Oh where's hey? You knows well. The Scott Robertson All
Black Zerra Hair has officially begun to announce the first
squad yesterday evening named as Captain Scott Barrett. Of course,
now the questions turned to the starting twenty three the
English loom in a couple of weeks in Scott Robertson
is with us. Good morning, Good morning, Mike. How'd it
feel yesterday?
Speaker 2 (00:26):
It was good. It was good to get on with it.
You know, it's been a while and we've been checking
the players for a long time. We had more stitchs
and the felt like we were just finalizing the squad
and actually putting it out there and adducing the nation.
Was good, so we can get it insteady now, good.
Speaker 1 (00:44):
From the time you got appointed to this particular point
in time for the non rugby officionado, what is it
you do literally every day? And what have you done?
Speaker 2 (00:55):
Normally start with a sif, but we there's a lot
of names. It's there's a lot of work. You do
a lot of work, and besides do you watch European rugby,
you watch your local rugby obviously super you track your players.
But because back in the last year member, you know,
(01:16):
I hide eighteen ye staff or a new sorry management group,
and this year's been focusing on getting a selection right
and how we're going to play. And then because it's
a new new start, new language, new terminology and new
mindset for everything. So there's been a lot of planning,
but you still you just want to get on the
rugby field.
Speaker 1 (01:36):
How different do you think it's going to be this
year under you?
Speaker 2 (01:42):
How different? Now? Oh, I haven't thought about that one. Like, uh,
I think people know who I am. I think don't
get me. I beat myself along the way. I just
think big part of what I was in our scene
this year for for the publics together we walk, but
I think they'd be a little bit. We're insights, a
lot more connection to who we are, how we do things,
(02:04):
and you know, a big part of what I have
to do is bring the past, the legacy with us.
So that's what you'll see off the field, But on
the field somewhat are too. Nick in adept played different ways,
played the team in front of us to win that game.
You know, good que DNA be connected and find ways
to win.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Very good answer. A couple of things in that one,
because I worry about and I've seen it over the years.
You will have to the pressure gets to coaches and
their personality changes. They get crushed. Are you confident that
you're not one of those people.
Speaker 2 (02:39):
I've got doctor Kerry Evans with a clinical psychologist and
forensic psychologist. I know he's the music good man to
have in your team. Look, look, look, I'm going to
be myself. I'm like you know, you know, when lose
your tour, I'll be honest. I'll be really clear and open.
I think gets one of the things that you know
(03:00):
when you do your view with players, they know that
what they're going to get, and I'm sure that or
the nation will be the same with it. Look, I
love the roles and responsibility of the job, like selection
and stuff. So I'm looking forward, like I said, to
bring you every one too together and I'm sure you'll
keep me accountable.
Speaker 1 (03:20):
Yes, no, I will.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
Uh.
Speaker 1 (03:21):
The the other part of your answer was good that
the adapt thing because I'm just a casual. You know,
I'm just a passionate follower of the sport. But one
thing I've noticed over the years with the All Blacks,
when things go wrong, they don't appear to have a
plan be So was that comment deliberately at that? You
see the same thing we do that that somehow on
a field you need to move and adapt when things
unfold in front of you.
Speaker 2 (03:42):
Yep. Yeah, Look what one thing when you lived in
and question, which is you know that when your neighbor's Antarctica,
the weather's going to changely and you're going to have
to adapt to it if it comes in the warm up,
So you have to have a couple of soles to play,
you know when when the set aff contems around. We
did a lot of work aound how to beat those
big men, you know, even when we're Japan. We had
(04:04):
lots of word key structures that we could adapt and
change and a lot of the messages that I'd send
down they're already doing it. So you know he've done
your job as a coach. So the strategy is a
very important and look, it's not major stuff. It's just
clarity of what's in front of you and what in
how can you do it quickly? So everyone will even
(04:25):
the front rower right onto it.
Speaker 1 (04:28):
The governance, the governance of the game and all the
stuff that's been going on since your appointment off the field,
has that affected provincial review, the debate that all that
stuff has it affected you in any way in terms
of what you're doing with your job or not?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Arms lengths, mate, That's how I've done it, like it's
actually that issue is not my problem, so I don't
actually have to solve. But Robbo has been really good
at when it starts high performance, real zena becomes an
issue and I need to understand what's happening. I do.
I have an understanding, but I don't have anything to
do with that. Hands on. Look, I'm a when my
(05:06):
role and he's in rugby and all the perception of
her orders. But that's Mark's job and he's been really
good along with Dane and dealing with it. So at
the moment, arms length good stuff.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
Hold on, mate, more questions in the moment. Scott Robertson
All Blacks coach thirteen past eight News Exever quarter past eight.
Scott Robertson, or Black's coach is with us as regards Scott,
the game itself, the rules, the debate around at the pace,
the slows down, stop starts. What's your view of it?
Speaker 2 (05:34):
Yeah, it could have made the game quicker. It's an
entertainment sport. People want. Every sport around the globally is
doing the same thing, the same training them. I want
to make it quicker. They want to use reviews, how
they use the TV and the cycle. It's getting better
(05:54):
among the couples of the law committee. Stuff that we
talk about. So the first thing is for sake, but
also speed of the game, and we can do it
in the safety in conjunction. Well, we're trending in the
right way, but we're moving, you're moving the right way.
Speaker 1 (06:12):
Okay, Pace and fitness do you need to look at
that as far as the All Blacks are concerned, Are
we a fitter fast aside?
Speaker 2 (06:21):
Wow, coming out of Super Rugby, it's a good question. Look,
the one thing is, you know, we chase the winter
and test footy and you get your guys coming off
the back of you know, Super Rugby, so you don't
get a period of time around the fitness side of it.
But Nicoli he's bringing over twenty years. You look at that,
that's a big load and the test weeks is one
(06:42):
of the things I looked at. I just couldn't fare
them how much load and work they do then inside
of it. But yeah, there's it's a contact, it's a
physical game that the higher the level and rugby you get,
the more physicality there's. It's like any other sports, like
start of Project Origin. You know, the brutality, there's a
big square headers. You look a lot more at body weight,
(07:05):
especially in those kits, and you look at people who
can use the top of their shoulder and repeat if
it's back to back to back. So huge physicality.
Speaker 1 (07:16):
What about the rust factor and this traditional thing we're
by You've you've got now, you've got your side, and
you get all that, then you put them together. You've
only got a couple of weeks to mold them into
something that's a unit. How hard a task is that?
Speaker 2 (07:31):
It depends how you frame it, Mike, Like, you know
we've got from Wednesday when we all get together. You
know we've got that teen period. You got to get
the first day right. This's the number one job. Get
that right, and you'll get the next day right. And
how and because we're in a new facility and jured
cis with which is we're we're the last place in
the world, really last country in the world not to
(07:53):
have a high performance for the facility where all our
teams in black go to. So for that to be there,
it's huge. You're not in Auckland traffic. You know, you
win transitions. You know, you can have more meetings, more
time on the field, and that's got a green room
for the for the wedding and rain and when so
looked at, this may make you a big difference for
us to get the rugby part, the cultural, the connection
(08:15):
piece in the leadership right.
Speaker 1 (08:17):
Good speaking of leadership, what's it like? Most people put
an add on trade me or seek and people apply
for the job. You get to pick your own people,
not players, but the McDonald and co. Alongside you. What's
it like to have the people you picked their your men.
Speaker 2 (08:35):
Well, it's great. It's good to have you know, runs
on the board. It's good to have the connection, the
personal connection. Also the professional side of it. So they're
obviously at the high end of the physical profession, but
also something that you can trust, someone that can have
that conversation that's required and get good direct feedback. You know,
normally like your wife and and then then then you
(08:58):
can fast track. You're not hiding stuff you know you
can get you can move on. So people know how
I work, they support someone like a Josh Roan. We
work ultimately to get a beautify together because we've we've
been through a lot, We've got a lot of history.
We know how we work and we can complement each other.
Speaker 1 (09:15):
Explain the crusaders this year to us.
Speaker 2 (09:20):
We regain. This wasn't on the list. I don't think
there was a list, but there.
Speaker 1 (09:26):
Was just just for the record, there wasn't a list.
Speaker 2 (09:29):
Okay, oh, look, you know it's difficult to watch in
lots of ways. You know I felt and you've wide
it with them, but also you look at a different eye.
There's you're always going to be a part of it,
you know, because your history in your in your life
and time with it, but you're looking at a different eye. Look,
got to feel for them, you know there was it
(09:51):
gave so much games of fine margins and you know
they weren't beat on on effort. It's if when you
start getting big on effort and the care goes, that
was still there. So you know that there's only little
margins and top sport and that that's didn't quite enough
of those, right.
Speaker 1 (10:11):
Do you follow the Warriors at all?
Speaker 2 (10:13):
Yes? I do.
Speaker 1 (10:14):
Did you see the weekend's game?
Speaker 2 (10:17):
Yes? I did? Sixers and I want it?
Speaker 1 (10:19):
Yeah. So Andrew Webster, my love, he's like you. He's passionate,
he's got a certain something about him with players. He
seemed to have a side. Right. Then it falls apart
in that way. What do you do?
Speaker 2 (10:37):
The first thing you've got to you've got to do
is you normally have a little game model that he'll
look at, so you don't start making pulling things in
that part of what you've discussed before. Have you got
it right? Was the number one thing he'll if someone's
going to put sixty six on you. Your mindset wasn't right
(10:57):
for the day. It doesn't matter all your structure and
skill set and where I'm to be. The mindset is
your shoulder wasn't ready to could put it through the
person in front of you. So why did he keep
that wrong? And obviously what he did with the Panthers
a couple of weeks earlier in the role they've been on.
What is it the week that got wrong? The leadership
they go wrong? So he'll look at himself. You know, no,
(11:20):
we've been done a bit of work with him and
he he'll look at himself. What did he not get right?
Because and then then you to be honest with the
group and sit down. Have we good at HUI and
so radio? But own it and what happens next?
Speaker 1 (11:35):
Good stuff. I'm super excited for you, mate, and I
hope it goes brilliantly well the whole season, but starting
with England's good fun. So it's good to catch up
and go well. Best of luck to you, Cheers, Mike
Love talk. Thank you Scott Robinson, all Blacks coach. For
more from the Mic Asking Breakfast, listen live to news Talks.
It'd be from six am weekdays, or follow the podcast
(11:55):
on iHeartRadio
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