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May 18, 2025 7 mins

Australian Prime Minister Anthony Albanese attended the pope’s inauguration in Rome over the weekend.

While there, he met with Ukrainian President Zelenskyy to discuss donating military tanks to the country.

Australia has donated $1.5 billion in support of Ukraine.

Australian Correspondent Steve Price talks to Mike Hosking about the meeting between the leaders, Victoria’s budget, the F1 and more.

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
In Australia, Steve Price, very good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (00:02):
Good day.

Speaker 1 (00:02):
That so Elbow was wearing a Sunnies and a sea
of world leaders, there was one man with Sonny's on
and that was Elbow and in a kubra hat.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
Can you explain that to me? I just don't understand.
So for all of our wonderful listeners who've never worn
on the cubra hat, it's an Australian brand. It's like
our version of a cowboy had I suppose cool. And
our politicians normally pull it out of a bag somewhere
when they go outside of a capital city.

Speaker 2 (00:32):
So if they're.

Speaker 3 (00:33):
Campaigning or launching a new transport project somewhere out in
the bush, they put on a cubra. This is from
a politician. By the way, antonew VENEZI holds an inner
urban seat in Sydney, which is about as far away
from a cubra wearing as you could possibly get. It
looks ridiculous when they do it here. It looked even
more ridiculous in my view, to do it at the

(00:55):
Vatican in Rome in Italy. Now, I don't know about you, Mike.
When you travel you try and blend in a little
bit you don't try and stand out if you possibly can.
And there is this blow representing our country wandering around
in sunglasses wearing a hat that he would not normally
even wear at home.

Speaker 2 (01:14):
I mean, am I being too harsh?

Speaker 1 (01:17):
Well well no, I mean, just let me put the
spart to your thinning on top warm day in Rome.

Speaker 2 (01:23):
Baseball cap there for cool? I mean.

Speaker 3 (01:28):
Anyway, he also met with Bottomy Zelensky on more serious
matters on the sidelines. And finally these M one A
one tanks that we no longer use in Australia because
what would be the point of having tanks in Australia ever? Anyway,
because no one's coming invading us over the outside Darwin,
we're going to hit them with tanks. The ridiculous to
own them. So we've decided we donate them to Ukraine,

(01:51):
which desperately does need that sort of armory. And they've
never left Australian shores. But we now learn after this
meeting between Zelenski and Anthony Albeezi, that the tanks are
our quote on their way. A couple of weeks ago,
the media revealed that the tanks we had promised I
think about three years ago were sitting in a shed
somewhere and hadn't even left the country. Now they are

(02:12):
unlike the X fighter planes that we cut up and
buried and don't use anymore. So the tanks are on
their way to Ukraine.

Speaker 2 (02:20):
The meeting with.

Speaker 3 (02:20):
Zelanski went very well, mister Albnez. He told him it's
crucial that we determine Ukraine determines its own future. He said,
Australia has already donated one point five billion dollars in support,
primarily military and defense support because the struggle, this is
a quote from the Prime Minister. The struggle and the
courage that your people are showing is quite remarkable, as.

Speaker 2 (02:42):
Is your leadership. So we're all in on Ukraine.

Speaker 1 (02:44):
Well we're all into what extent because I thought, I mean,
Trump's supposed to be ringing everyone tomorrow and we're going
to get some sort of peace to Are you still
giving these tanks to funder war or are you giving
these tanks because you're promised and you're a bit embarrassed
and they're sort of hopefully won't be used anymore if
and when we ever get to some sort of piece
of room.

Speaker 3 (03:02):
One percent. The latter comment that you make. They're on
a ship on their way there. They should have been
there two years ago. They will finally get there. Everyone
hopes that the wall's over by the time they do
get there. And I presume I don't know if you
ever been delicted inch time, but when you go to
the border, there's a tank sitting there in the tiniest
country in Europe. I presume they'll stick them on the
border and say, don't come back to our territory. Otherwise

(03:22):
the N ONEA ones will be there ready to shoot
shells at you.

Speaker 1 (03:26):
Is there in the budget in Victoria tomorrow something for
everybody even though you have no.

Speaker 3 (03:32):
Money, We have no money, and there is something for
everyone in this budget. Absolutely, And it starts with guess
what free public transport for anyone under the age of
eighteen for the rest of their lives, starting on January
the first next year. Now the election is next year,
twenty twenty six. We are broke. But you'll be given

(03:52):
a card. So you have to use a Mikey card
in Melbourne to travel on trains or trams or buses there.
Anyone under eighteen will be issued with a special card
that will cost a fortune, and you will be able
to tap this on to ride for free. This is
all very well and good. I should point out, though,
at the premier, who probably doesn't catch as many trains

(04:15):
and trams as what I do is that anyone under
the age of eighteen, particularly anyone between the ages of
say twelve and eighteen, they don't pay anyone. I never
see anyone get on a Melbourne tram.

Speaker 2 (04:27):
Or a train and tap a cart.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
Very glad you said that, because last time I was
in Melbourne and we were coming out of the restaurant
of my daughter and my wife and I and she goes,
we'll catch the train home, and I said, well, what
do you need for that? Do you need a credit card?

Speaker 4 (04:38):
Cash?

Speaker 1 (04:39):
She goes, don't need anything, just hop on board.

Speaker 4 (04:41):
No one pays anyway, So it's a great promise it's
going to on paper who costs a lot of money,
but in reality it's already happening.

Speaker 2 (04:51):
And I should just point out this wonderful figure for you.

Speaker 3 (04:54):
The Victorian government debt in twenty fourteen twenty fifteen was
twenty two point three billion dollars.

Speaker 2 (05:01):
Sounds like a lot of money, doesn't.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
It, Max Then could that be because of day in.

Speaker 3 (05:05):
Twenty twenty seven, twenty twenty eight, so in two years
time will be one hundred and eighty seven point three
billion dollars.

Speaker 1 (05:14):
Jeez, Actually funny you should say that. I think ours
from memory, our national debt is about that as well,
and so we're a whole country. Mind you, you're at
least five million, but our bill on the interest for
that is eight going on nine billion dollars a year
just on interest, so yours will be something similar.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
Yeah, several million dollars a day. We're paying on just
one hundred debt.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
You watch the F one this morning, Oscar Oscar Max
one and he won by a lot, so that whole
Oscar slash and Lando dominance thing seems to be at
least putting its box for a week.

Speaker 2 (05:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (05:50):
Look, I mean it was the first second turn, wasn't it?
The MENI it was on pole. He just he let
Mex get through. He breaks a bit too early in
Max break and went straight past.

Speaker 2 (06:01):
Once he was pasted him. He was not unless there
was a problem.

Speaker 3 (06:03):
He was not going to lose, so I wouldn't read
too much into that. Oscar said afterwards that he thought
that he'd made a mistake, and they also was a
pit stop problem where they put him on old he
was still on old tires and Norris went past him.

Speaker 2 (06:16):
But there you go. That's what formula one do.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
That is true. Hey, quick question. I read what I
thought was a very interesting article over the weekend in Australia.
They looked at a number of individual booths out of
the election and the swing in Elbow's electorate. In some
of the booths he had a swing to him of
twenty five percent. How do you explain that, given one
you already knew who he was, generally a prime minister's

(06:41):
reasonably popular in their local electorate. What is it that
happened that so many people suddenly fell in love with
them that way?

Speaker 3 (06:48):
Well, I guess you've got to go back to the
election before and there was a very strong vote for
both a Kiel candidate and an independent candidate and the.

Speaker 2 (06:58):
Greeds, So I would put that down.

Speaker 3 (07:00):
And without having a look at that in particular Booth,
a whole bunch of people who thought they were voting
Green in the election prior to a recent one decided
that the Greens had become such a nasty, hard left
pro Palestine party that they would pull their votes from
the Greens and give it to alban Ezy.

Speaker 1 (07:18):
That's what I suspecting to have see Wednesday. Appreciate it
very much. The Price Out of Australia.

Speaker 3 (07:24):
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Speaker 1 (07:27):
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