May 4, 2025 • 6 mins
Anthony Albanese's lead the Australian Labor Party to a back-to-back run in Government.
Peter Dutton has lost his seat as well as losing the election, making him the first federal opposition leader to do so.
Australian Correspondent Steve Price talks all things election with Mike Hosking.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
I'll tell you what pstre is, Steve morning to you,
(00:02):
Pistre's I don't know if I said to you last
week or the week before, but I reckon he's one
better than Norris and proving to be better than Norris
and ultimately will be better than Norris, may well be
a world champion.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Certainly better than Peter Dutton. He's win anything ever the weekend.
Oscar's about the only thing we can hang our hat on.
This morning, I would say.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, it's interesting. Did you the size of the wind
surprise you?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Absolutely? We went into election day everybody suggesting Labor would
get back into some sort of government. Most of us
predicted and I think I did with you on Wednesday minority,
but they're going to have a whacking majority now. I
don't think anyone predicted what would occur, but it happens
so quickly on Saturday night, I mean, the vote was
(00:48):
over by a seven thirty quartered way. And he is
a stab for he that staggers everybody who is a
voter who votes for the coalition. They're going to be
left the Liberal Party and National Party coalition, probably with
only half a dozen seats in Metropolitan Australia. Now that's
(01:10):
just incredible. I mean, the swing to Labor wasn't huge.
The primary vote for Labor wasn't huge either. It all
came down to preferences, so everybody who again went out
and voted Teal and Green, their preferences flowed to Labor
and has installed Anthony Albernezi for at least another three years,
probably for another two terms. I mean, the Teales all
(01:32):
won back their seats. I was predicting they'd lose a
couple in Melbourne, which they didn't. And in Victoria the
vote for the Labor Party was strong, despite the fact
that the State Labor Party is so much on the nose.
I mean, Peter Dutton's gone now, so who replaces him? Well,
the talent list is not very long. You've probably got
(01:53):
Susan later Deputy Andrew Hasty, the former Sas Commando from Perth,
and Angus Tata the Shadow Treasure but none of them
really particularly inspire anyone. So the little matter of Coalition
have got a huge, huge amount of sobering thought about
what's going to happen next. And then we have Anthony Alberaneese.
(02:16):
He's now got another term and i'd suspect probably two more.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, is it the preferencing, because it's certainly the name
Campbell Newman sprang to mind. You've seen it in Western Australia.
I've seen it in Queensland, this routing of parties at
certain times. It's not the percentage of the vote, but
it's clearly the quirk of the system that allows parties
either to win massively or get wiped out.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah. Correct. And one example of preferences and what it
did on this result of the weekend was the Greens. Now,
the Greens lost two of the three seats that they
were holding in the last parliament in Brisbane. Did they
lose those seats because people turned on the Greens. No,
not particularly, but people who voted for the Liberal National
(03:01):
Coalition put as their second preference the Labor Party, and
so the Labor Party picked up those two seats in Brisbane.
I mean, I've got my fingers crossed that Adam Bands,
who's a lunatic who's the head of the Greens in Australia,
might lose Melbourne. I mean, the counting is still going
on and there's some suggestion he's in a bit of trouble.
That would please me. No, end to see him gone.
(03:22):
But the preference system is what does it here? And
the Labor Party they ran a better campaign. The Libs
didn't run a very good campaign. We've now got the
big issue what do we do about energy in Australia.
And as you know, we've talked about nuclear over and
over again. The public clearly enamored with the fact that
we should go nuclear, so that it's the coalition and
(03:44):
whoever leads it now might just simply drop that idea
of nuclear. I mean, maybe they have to.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Can we say or is it am I wrong? Can
we say that Elbow didn't win because they love them
and they love labor and they love a labor style
of the country. They simply won because they looked at
the alternative which was done and et cetera, and they
just couldn't stomach.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It one hundred percent. That's exactly what happened. He was
very hard to sell. You know, it's unfortunate you can't.
You've got no control over what you look like. He's
a bald headed guy who has had portfolios in government
which include national security, border protection, all of the tough
guy portfolios, and so people just simply didn't warm to him.
(04:28):
And this is the first election, and I mean, you'll
have to deal with this at some point. This is
the first election in this country where the baby boomers
have not been the majority of the voters. You've now
got millennials and gen z who are pushing and so
that the traditional media has less of an impact in
all of those sets. But what we left with is
(04:49):
a Labor Party that's got seats in the low eighties
and a coalition in the high thirties. And that's a
hell of a long way there.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It is there a possibility this will go to us
as here we saw this in twenty twenty through twenty
twenty three. Labor different system obviously, but they got a majority,
shouldn't have got a majority, got a majority and went
nuts and everyone hated them three years later. Does Elbow
have that potential problem.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
One hundred percent yes. But the problem is the opposition
don't have a particularly good leader. They're going to find
someone to lead them, and that might indeed happen. I mean,
it reminds me a lot of what happened two thousand
and seven Kevin Rudwan John Howard lost his own seat
like Peter Dutton did on Saturday night. Two elections later,
Tony Abbott got the Coalition back to the low nineties
(05:36):
in terms of seats because the rug Gillard Rudd governments
were so chaotic that everyone said, we can't have this
mob running, so let's go back to the other guys.
And I suspect in two elections time we might say
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Great stuff, mate, We'll see your Wednesday appreciated very much,
Deprice out of Australia. The opposition leader lost as seed
shadow ministers are hitting the same way. Labor prepared with
care and fought with discipline. The coalition plan complacently and
fought atrociously, said one scribe yesterday across the Tasman. But
it's an important to point out, and I'll come to
the British vote in just a couple of moments. That
percentages and the systems in which you run them, I like,
(06:10):
and as saying this is the Prime minister off there before,
I actually like. This is why MMP to me works
to a degree. You get the number of seats representing
the percentage of the vote, and you don't do that
in Britain, and you certainly don't do that in Australia,
and that seems to me anyway, at least in one
aspect of voting, are to be grossly unfair.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
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I'll tell you what pstre is, Steve morning to you,
(00:02):
Pistre's I don't know if I said to you last
week or the week before, but I reckon he's one
better than Norris and proving to be better than Norris
and ultimately will be better than Norris, may well be
a world champion.
Speaker 2 (00:15):
Certainly better than Peter Dutton. He's win anything ever the weekend.
Oscar's about the only thing we can hang our hat on.
This morning, I would say.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
Yeah, it's interesting. Did you the size of the wind
surprise you?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
Absolutely? We went into election day everybody suggesting Labor would
get back into some sort of government. Most of us
predicted and I think I did with you on Wednesday minority,
but they're going to have a whacking majority now. I
don't think anyone predicted what would occur, but it happens
so quickly on Saturday night, I mean, the vote was
(00:48):
over by a seven thirty quartered way. And he is
a stab for he that staggers everybody who is a
voter who votes for the coalition. They're going to be
left the Liberal Party and National Party coalition, probably with
only half a dozen seats in Metropolitan Australia. Now that's
(01:10):
just incredible. I mean, the swing to Labor wasn't huge.
The primary vote for Labor wasn't huge either. It all
came down to preferences, so everybody who again went out
and voted Teal and Green, their preferences flowed to Labor
and has installed Anthony Albernezi for at least another three years,
probably for another two terms. I mean, the Teales all
(01:32):
won back their seats. I was predicting they'd lose a
couple in Melbourne, which they didn't. And in Victoria the
vote for the Labor Party was strong, despite the fact
that the State Labor Party is so much on the nose.
I mean, Peter Dutton's gone now, so who replaces him? Well,
the talent list is not very long. You've probably got
(01:53):
Susan later Deputy Andrew Hasty, the former Sas Commando from Perth,
and Angus Tata the Shadow Treasure but none of them
really particularly inspire anyone. So the little matter of Coalition
have got a huge, huge amount of sobering thought about
what's going to happen next. And then we have Anthony Alberaneese.
(02:16):
He's now got another term and i'd suspect probably two more.
Speaker 1 (02:19):
Yeah, is it the preferencing, because it's certainly the name
Campbell Newman sprang to mind. You've seen it in Western Australia.
I've seen it in Queensland, this routing of parties at
certain times. It's not the percentage of the vote, but
it's clearly the quirk of the system that allows parties
either to win massively or get wiped out.
Speaker 2 (02:41):
Yeah. Correct. And one example of preferences and what it
did on this result of the weekend was the Greens. Now,
the Greens lost two of the three seats that they
were holding in the last parliament in Brisbane. Did they
lose those seats because people turned on the Greens. No,
not particularly, but people who voted for the Liberal National
(03:01):
Coalition put as their second preference the Labor Party, and
so the Labor Party picked up those two seats in Brisbane.
I mean, I've got my fingers crossed that Adam Bands,
who's a lunatic who's the head of the Greens in Australia,
might lose Melbourne. I mean, the counting is still going
on and there's some suggestion he's in a bit of trouble.
That would please me. No, end to see him gone.
(03:22):
But the preference system is what does it here? And
the Labor Party they ran a better campaign. The Libs
didn't run a very good campaign. We've now got the
big issue what do we do about energy in Australia.
And as you know, we've talked about nuclear over and
over again. The public clearly enamored with the fact that
we should go nuclear, so that it's the coalition and
(03:44):
whoever leads it now might just simply drop that idea
of nuclear. I mean, maybe they have to.
Speaker 1 (03:50):
Can we say or is it am I wrong? Can
we say that Elbow didn't win because they love them
and they love labor and they love a labor style
of the country. They simply won because they looked at
the alternative which was done and et cetera, and they
just couldn't stomach.
Speaker 2 (04:05):
It one hundred percent. That's exactly what happened. He was
very hard to sell. You know, it's unfortunate you can't.
You've got no control over what you look like. He's
a bald headed guy who has had portfolios in government
which include national security, border protection, all of the tough
guy portfolios, and so people just simply didn't warm to him.
(04:28):
And this is the first election, and I mean, you'll
have to deal with this at some point. This is
the first election in this country where the baby boomers
have not been the majority of the voters. You've now
got millennials and gen z who are pushing and so
that the traditional media has less of an impact in
all of those sets. But what we left with is
(04:49):
a Labor Party that's got seats in the low eighties
and a coalition in the high thirties. And that's a
hell of a long way there.
Speaker 1 (04:57):
It is there a possibility this will go to us
as here we saw this in twenty twenty through twenty
twenty three. Labor different system obviously, but they got a majority,
shouldn't have got a majority, got a majority and went
nuts and everyone hated them three years later. Does Elbow
have that potential problem.
Speaker 2 (05:13):
One hundred percent yes. But the problem is the opposition
don't have a particularly good leader. They're going to find
someone to lead them, and that might indeed happen. I mean,
it reminds me a lot of what happened two thousand
and seven Kevin Rudwan John Howard lost his own seat
like Peter Dutton did on Saturday night. Two elections later,
Tony Abbott got the Coalition back to the low nineties
(05:36):
in terms of seats because the rug Gillard Rudd governments
were so chaotic that everyone said, we can't have this
mob running, so let's go back to the other guys.
And I suspect in two elections time we might say
the same thing.
Speaker 1 (05:49):
Great stuff, mate, We'll see your Wednesday appreciated very much,
Deprice out of Australia. The opposition leader lost as seed
shadow ministers are hitting the same way. Labor prepared with
care and fought with discipline. The coalition plan complacently and
fought atrociously, said one scribe yesterday across the Tasman. But
it's an important to point out, and I'll come to
the British vote in just a couple of moments. That
percentages and the systems in which you run them, I like,
(06:10):
and as saying this is the Prime minister off there before,
I actually like. This is why MMP to me works
to a degree. You get the number of seats representing
the percentage of the vote, and you don't do that
in Britain, and you certainly don't do that in Australia,
and that seems to me anyway, at least in one
aspect of voting, are to be grossly unfair.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
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News Talks at B from six am weekdays, or follow
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