As Dixon, McLaughlan and Armstrong fly the flag well for New Zealand in IndyCar, we've also got van Gisbergen in winning form in NASCAR, and Liam Lawson waiting for his time in F1.
Closer to home we have the next big superstar, according to a number of analysts in the NZ racing scene.
His name is Tom Bewley and won this year’s Toyota 86 Championship at only 16 years old.
This weekend he made his debut at the Porsche GT3, taking pole after being sick for the first practice session, and ended up finishing his debut in second place.
Bewley told Mike Hosking that seeing so many Kiwis succeeding in motorsports definitely encouraged him to chase his dream, but you have to stick to your own track and make it at your own pace.
He said that you can't compare yourself to other people and how fast they’re going and where they’re heading to and what they’re racing.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Shut up and DAP.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Seven past eight, you know the show and Motorsports, Dixon, Mclonchlin,
arms Strong fly the flag for US and Indie, Van
Gisberg and Nascali and Lawson of course waiting for his
time and if one back, here are the next really
big name, according to a number of analysts in the
New Zealand racing scene, as Tom Buley. This year he
won the twet or eighty six Championship at sixteen years old,
major's debut in the course GT three's at the weekend
took pole, ended up in the race, coming second. So
(00:36):
let's meet Tom Buley and learn some more. Tom, very
good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, good morning, and thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Not at all. What's it like? And I don't mean
to insult you in any way, shape or form by
asking this question, what's it like to one day be
racing a GT three in the next day going to school?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, it's quite interesting. I'm definitely saying to go tell
the teachers at school, which they don't really believe once.
But no, it's been good. You know, they've given me
time to you know, catch up on work and stuff.
But yeah, definitely a good story to tell. My mates
and tell all the teachers fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Tell us your motor racing history. I'm assuming like everyone else,
you started in carts.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, went through carts, you know, racing likes
of Lewis sharp and really good mates with him and
it's good to you know, we always give in contact
and push each other along what we're doing and support
each other, which is good. And just learning the basics
about racing and race craft and what you need to
make it to the main goal, which is racing on
(01:34):
on the world stage.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
What do you reckon the Is it art or is
it science? In other words, you gifted naturally or you
anyone can learn it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
There's a bit of both. I think you definitely have
to most therese hates of people that are gifted naturally
that make it. You know, you got all the Forum
one drivers and basically like Liam Laws and stuff, definitely
naturally gifted good right from the starts and is lower
end stuff like that, but you definitely got to work
towards it and put a lot of effort to be
(02:04):
up the front.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What's the difference in terms of Louie's gone on to
single seat of stuff, He's over on the other side
of the world. Of course you've gone ten tops. Is
it just about financing money or is it a personal preference?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, definitely a bit of both. I mean, Louis's doing
saying that's a lot harder to get, but that's his goal.
And I'm not into single seat of racing like he is,
so I'm into, you know, rubbing doors and getting close
to other drivers, which you can't do in a single setter.
So yeah, I guess it's more of a personal.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Preference, right, So eighty six is tell me about the gap.
Eighty six is for people who don't it's basically it's
a hotted up toyota. The point being, what's the difference
between that and getting into a GT three porch?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, definitely it's quite the difference. Obviously for a starter,
you're seeing on the other side of the car, so
in eighty six to eighty six or in the eighty
six you're sitting on the right side of the car
and in the Porsch' seeing on the left side of the car.
So that's probably the main difference. Just getting used to
that and not dropping wheels off on the right side
coming into corners and stuff like that. But other than that,
(03:11):
the arrow that's huge through the corners, just trusting the
grip and relying that the car will stay stuck to
the track and get around the corner.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What about the sheer power? And this I mean size
apart from anything, it's a bigger car, but the power,
I mean the speed you're going must be miserably different.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I think you're probably going
about sixty combs in our Quaker or eight eighty kmas
are Quaker and saying like that. And when I hopped in,
I didn't think you could actually go that fast in
the race car, and I never thought you'd go that
fast ever, But no, it's an awesome experience and something
that I'm slowly getting used to.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The speed fantastic. What got you into motor racing from
the very start? Where where's the interest come from?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Definitely my brother and my dad. My brother wanted to
go out and have it gone to go and he
wasn't too interested. So I decided to jump in and
have a crack, and then I kind of raced around
the back of the field for tour so years and
then finally something clips and that's like actually passing people
so yeah, definitely my dad coming from a racing background himself,
(04:17):
racing in Australia and having that at his career.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But yeah, the eighty sixers I follow with an element
of interest because what fascinates me about them is they're
the same car and it's not like if one where
you can do things to a car and there like
Red Bull, are measurably different to you Williams. So in
these eighty six is you're in the same car, yet
somebody wins and somebody doesn't. What's the difference? What makes
(04:44):
you a winner?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, so there's nothing really can change on a tour
at eighty six car. There's a few things you can
do with suspension, camber obviously, tie pressures that give you
a little bit of advantage on depends on conditions wet
or drive. But to me, the best you just got
to always you just got to hit your marks, make
absolutely no mistakes and just be eager always to win
(05:10):
and always you know, it's always down to the little
bits of data finding those little extra tents that will
jump you up five or so spots.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right, have you jumped out of the eighty sixers now
and you're going to be in GT three's for a while,
or you're going back to eighty six's next year.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Now keep out of the eighty six. I don't think
I can go back, to be honest, because I'll just
think it's too slow for me. Now, yeah for one, Now,
definitely we'll try do some testing in the Porsche and
then see where that ends up and hopefully you can
head overseas and cracking something over there.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Fantastic. Hold on, mate, don't go away. We'll come back
in a moment, Tom Buley, because part of the prize
winning the eighty six is he gets to go somewhere
very special. More on that in the moment thirteen past
you six me fifteen minutes past a Tom Buley's our
guest Motorsports Champion of the Future. Tom tell us about
the prize that this neerburg Ring you get to go
to Whennie had doing it. What are you know at
the nrburg Ring? Have you watched videos going around it?
(06:04):
And how fast do you reckon you can go?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, I've been watching quite a few videos, just getting
used to the track and yeah, tell me awesome experience
going over to Jermmy driving on an international track for
the first time in a hurt a super a digits
war car and racing against a heap of other cool
cars and stuff like that. So really looking forward to
it and it should be a very good experience.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
What sort of time do you reckon you could do?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I'm not sure. I think probably around a one minute
thirty lap time.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Wow, that's impressive. Can you memorize the whole track given
its length?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I no, not definitely, not the nordche life of the
road track, but definitely the Grand Prix circuit they were doing.
It's a lot shorter. It's the one that the if
one cars and stuff used to race on, So definitely
I think can memorize the Nordska, but definitely, Yeah, the
Grand Prix circuits is a lot shorter.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Super exciting. Who are you following at the moment? I look,
I mean you're at what are you? Sixteen? Seventeen?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm sixteen, Matt Matt Pain's.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Not too much ahead of you. Do you look at
him in the supercars and think that could be you?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah? Definitely Hamm and Ryan. You know, Ryan's got a
good catch and pushima to him and he's anly an
awesome job over there, and so was Matt Pain. So
that's definitely where I want to end up racing with
those guys, and yeah that's my gone. I'm not going
to stop until get there.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Good on you. Does it help, because this is the
often asked question in sport, If you see other people
doing it, you're aspired to do it. I mean if
you by the time you do your you know your
your your indies, you're as cars, your f ones, your supercars.
I mean there's so many people from New Zealand out
there doing so well. Does that encourage you to chase
your dream as well knowing it is possible.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, definitely, But you've got to stay in poe and
stick to your own track and just make it at
your own pace. You know, don't compare us after other
people and how fast going and where they're heading to
and what they're racing. It's just about sticking on your
track and doing your own things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Good stuff you year twelve or thirteen?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
A year twelve?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What are you doing.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Currently? I'm doing at school just the classes for automotive
being just another little learning curve to get my head
around learning more about the cars, and just a bit
of an after schoolwork and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Fantastic well go well. Everyone speaks so highly of you,
and the eighty six victory is a very good start,
and I hope the newburg Ring is fantastic and good
to meet and talk with you, and I'm sure we'll
talk again.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, cool, Thank you, Good on your mate.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Nice to talk Tom Buley, who is sixteen years old.
As you heard one, the Toyota eighty six has been
in the GT three over the weekend. Drove on fresh tires,
brand new tires, which I didn't realize was a thing
I would have thought of. You got experience. You always
had new tires at some point. But he'd never been
on new tires, new slick tires for the weekend, so
he got polled, came second, and there was a name
to watch nineteen past eight. For more from the Mic
(09:11):
Asking Breakfast, listen live to News Talks at B from
six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
Shut up and DAP.
Speaker 2 (00:14):
Seven past eight, you know the show and Motorsports, Dixon, Mclonchlin,
arms Strong fly the flag for US and Indie, Van
Gisberg and Nascali and Lawson of course waiting for his
time and if one back, here are the next really
big name, according to a number of analysts in the
New Zealand racing scene, as Tom Buley. This year he
won the twet or eighty six Championship at sixteen years old,
major's debut in the course GT three's at the weekend
took pole, ended up in the race, coming second. So
(00:36):
let's meet Tom Buley and learn some more. Tom, very
good morning to you.
Speaker 3 (00:41):
Yeah, good morning, and thanks for having me.
Speaker 2 (00:43):
Not at all. What's it like? And I don't mean
to insult you in any way, shape or form by
asking this question, what's it like to one day be
racing a GT three in the next day going to school?
Speaker 3 (00:52):
Yeah, it's quite interesting. I'm definitely saying to go tell
the teachers at school, which they don't really believe once.
But no, it's been good. You know, they've given me
time to you know, catch up on work and stuff.
But yeah, definitely a good story to tell. My mates
and tell all the teachers fantastic.
Speaker 2 (01:08):
Tell us your motor racing history. I'm assuming like everyone else,
you started in carts.
Speaker 3 (01:13):
Yeah, definitely, Yeah, went through carts, you know, racing likes
of Lewis sharp and really good mates with him and
it's good to you know, we always give in contact
and push each other along what we're doing and support
each other, which is good. And just learning the basics
about racing and race craft and what you need to
make it to the main goal, which is racing on
(01:34):
on the world stage.
Speaker 2 (01:35):
What do you reckon the Is it art or is
it science? In other words, you gifted naturally or you
anyone can learn it.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
There's a bit of both. I think you definitely have
to most therese hates of people that are gifted naturally
that make it. You know, you got all the Forum
one drivers and basically like Liam Laws and stuff, definitely
naturally gifted good right from the starts and is lower
end stuff like that, but you definitely got to work
towards it and put a lot of effort to be
(02:04):
up the front.
Speaker 2 (02:05):
What's the difference in terms of Louie's gone on to
single seat of stuff, He's over on the other side
of the world. Of course you've gone ten tops. Is
it just about financing money or is it a personal preference?
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Yeah, definitely a bit of both. I mean, Louis's doing
saying that's a lot harder to get, but that's his goal.
And I'm not into single seat of racing like he is,
so I'm into, you know, rubbing doors and getting close
to other drivers, which you can't do in a single setter.
So yeah, I guess it's more of a personal.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Preference, right, So eighty six is tell me about the gap.
Eighty six is for people who don't it's basically it's
a hotted up toyota. The point being, what's the difference
between that and getting into a GT three porch?
Speaker 3 (02:47):
Yeah, definitely it's quite the difference. Obviously for a starter,
you're seeing on the other side of the car, so
in eighty six to eighty six or in the eighty
six you're sitting on the right side of the car
and in the Porsch' seeing on the left side of the car.
So that's probably the main difference. Just getting used to
that and not dropping wheels off on the right side
coming into corners and stuff like that. But other than that,
(03:11):
the arrow that's huge through the corners, just trusting the
grip and relying that the car will stay stuck to
the track and get around the corner.
Speaker 2 (03:20):
What about the sheer power? And this I mean size
apart from anything, it's a bigger car, but the power,
I mean the speed you're going must be miserably different.
Speaker 3 (03:28):
Yeah, yeah, one hundred percent. I think you're probably going
about sixty combs in our Quaker or eight eighty kmas
are Quaker and saying like that. And when I hopped in,
I didn't think you could actually go that fast in
the race car, and I never thought you'd go that
fast ever, But no, it's an awesome experience and something
that I'm slowly getting used to.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
The speed fantastic. What got you into motor racing from
the very start? Where where's the interest come from?
Speaker 3 (03:55):
Definitely my brother and my dad. My brother wanted to
go out and have it gone to go and he
wasn't too interested. So I decided to jump in and
have a crack, and then I kind of raced around
the back of the field for tour so years and
then finally something clips and that's like actually passing people
so yeah, definitely my dad coming from a racing background himself,
(04:17):
racing in Australia and having that at his career.
Speaker 2 (04:22):
But yeah, the eighty sixers I follow with an element
of interest because what fascinates me about them is they're
the same car and it's not like if one where
you can do things to a car and there like
Red Bull, are measurably different to you Williams. So in
these eighty six is you're in the same car, yet
somebody wins and somebody doesn't. What's the difference? What makes
(04:44):
you a winner?
Speaker 3 (04:46):
Yeah, so there's nothing really can change on a tour
at eighty six car. There's a few things you can
do with suspension, camber obviously, tie pressures that give you
a little bit of advantage on depends on conditions wet
or drive. But to me, the best you just got
to always you just got to hit your marks, make
absolutely no mistakes and just be eager always to win
(05:10):
and always you know, it's always down to the little
bits of data finding those little extra tents that will
jump you up five or so spots.
Speaker 2 (05:19):
Right, have you jumped out of the eighty sixers now
and you're going to be in GT three's for a while,
or you're going back to eighty six's next year.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
Now keep out of the eighty six. I don't think
I can go back, to be honest, because I'll just
think it's too slow for me. Now, yeah for one, Now,
definitely we'll try do some testing in the Porsche and
then see where that ends up and hopefully you can
head overseas and cracking something over there.
Speaker 2 (05:43):
Fantastic. Hold on, mate, don't go away. We'll come back
in a moment, Tom Buley, because part of the prize
winning the eighty six is he gets to go somewhere
very special. More on that in the moment thirteen past
you six me fifteen minutes past a Tom Buley's our
guest Motorsports Champion of the Future. Tom tell us about
the prize that this neerburg Ring you get to go
to Whennie had doing it. What are you know at
the nrburg Ring? Have you watched videos going around it?
(06:04):
And how fast do you reckon you can go?
Speaker 3 (06:07):
Yeah, I've been watching quite a few videos, just getting
used to the track and yeah, tell me awesome experience
going over to Jermmy driving on an international track for
the first time in a hurt a super a digits
war car and racing against a heap of other cool
cars and stuff like that. So really looking forward to
it and it should be a very good experience.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
What sort of time do you reckon you could do?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I'm not sure. I think probably around a one minute
thirty lap time.
Speaker 2 (06:39):
Wow, that's impressive. Can you memorize the whole track given
its length?
Speaker 3 (06:46):
I no, not definitely, not the nordche life of the
road track, but definitely the Grand Prix circuit they were doing.
It's a lot shorter. It's the one that the if
one cars and stuff used to race on, So definitely
I think can memorize the Nordska, but definitely, Yeah, the
Grand Prix circuits is a lot shorter.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
Super exciting. Who are you following at the moment? I look,
I mean you're at what are you? Sixteen? Seventeen?
Speaker 3 (07:12):
Yeah, I'm sixteen, Matt Matt Pain's.
Speaker 2 (07:13):
Not too much ahead of you. Do you look at
him in the supercars and think that could be you?
Speaker 3 (07:18):
Yeah? Definitely Hamm and Ryan. You know, Ryan's got a
good catch and pushima to him and he's anly an
awesome job over there, and so was Matt Pain. So
that's definitely where I want to end up racing with
those guys, and yeah that's my gone. I'm not going
to stop until get there.
Speaker 2 (07:33):
Good on you. Does it help, because this is the
often asked question in sport, If you see other people
doing it, you're aspired to do it. I mean if
you by the time you do your you know your
your your indies, you're as cars, your f ones, your supercars.
I mean there's so many people from New Zealand out
there doing so well. Does that encourage you to chase
your dream as well knowing it is possible.
Speaker 3 (07:57):
Yes, definitely, But you've got to stay in poe and
stick to your own track and just make it at
your own pace. You know, don't compare us after other
people and how fast going and where they're heading to
and what they're racing. It's just about sticking on your
track and doing your own things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Good stuff you year twelve or thirteen?
Speaker 3 (08:17):
A year twelve?
Speaker 2 (08:18):
What are you doing.
Speaker 3 (08:21):
Currently? I'm doing at school just the classes for automotive
being just another little learning curve to get my head
around learning more about the cars, and just a bit
of an after schoolwork and stuff like that.
Speaker 2 (08:34):
Fantastic well go well. Everyone speaks so highly of you,
and the eighty six victory is a very good start,
and I hope the newburg Ring is fantastic and good
to meet and talk with you, and I'm sure we'll
talk again.
Speaker 3 (08:46):
Yeah, cool, Thank you, Good on your mate.
Speaker 2 (08:48):
Nice to talk Tom Buley, who is sixteen years old.
As you heard one, the Toyota eighty six has been
in the GT three over the weekend. Drove on fresh tires,
brand new tires, which I didn't realize was a thing
I would have thought of. You got experience. You always
had new tires at some point. But he'd never been
on new tires, new slick tires for the weekend, so
he got polled, came second, and there was a name
to watch nineteen past eight. For more from the Mic
(09:11):
Asking Breakfast, listen live to News Talks at B from
six am weekdays, or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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