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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tim Wilson's Weather's along with Kate hawks to be good
morning you two.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Good morning jeez, here is not the only one with
long entroes A Kate, very true.
Speaker 1 (00:09):
Very good to very good. If you want to work
on this program, you're just going to be nice to me.
That's the new Trump rule. You've got to be nice
to the nice of the boss. That's how it works. Sorry, Kay,
you were going to say.
Speaker 3 (00:18):
I was just going to say, I'm you glad you're
not in the States? Aren't you glad that that decision
was the right decision.
Speaker 1 (00:23):
I thought it was a very good decision to make
before the week, and by the end of the week,
as I watched those dreadful, poor souls in the quad
in the middle of Washington, I thought I would rather
shoot myself than be.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Therey sixteen all over again, wasn't it?
Speaker 2 (00:36):
I mean it was text.
Speaker 1 (00:38):
Well, the only difference. The only difference was in twenty sixteen,
although many people, including myself, predicted Trump would win, that
was not the popular view. And in that room that
night in sixteen, there was no question Clinton would win,
whereas this time there was a question mark. It was
kind of yep, she probably.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Ye It's funny because I reckon, there's a good lesson.
This whole thing is a good lesson for mainstream media,
because you know, we've got many of our children listen
to no legacy media whatsoever. They get all their media
from independent citizen journalism, and they were interestedly saying, especially
one of my sons had a bet with me that Trump.
He did not believe the polls were as close as
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mainstream media was saying, and he was adamant that Trump
was going to win the lot of the popular vote there,
and I was just like, there's no way, and so
he wanted me to bow and scrape and apologize, of course.
But it's interesting message because traditional legacy media is so
used to taking all its cues from left leaning politicians
and governments that they have all become as an ecosystem,
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so in their own echo chamber, they are completely out
of touch with the real world. And I hope that
we learned the lesson here our media. Yeah they won't, sadly,
But I mean it's a good lesson, isn't it if.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
You want to learn it. All lessons are good if
you want to learn them, and that's the key to lessons.
You've got to want to learn them. And that's the difficulty.
I was think about that. Funnily enough, just a moment,
Ago is watching in Australian television this morning. They're running
the pictures from yesterday's protest outside of Parliament on this
treaty thing, and there were about four and a half
people there, and I thought, that's not a protest, and
it's not every time a few dozen.
Speaker 3 (02:12):
People you market yesterday, Yeah, and there was you know,
there's like four people with a flag.
Speaker 1 (02:17):
Yeah, it's like the mode make it. Unfortunately, are so
rote they don't know how to cover and use the
way it should be covered these days, which is if
there's a protest, we must cover it. The fact there's
four people there doesn't negate that, and you know, no
one then goes, hey, this isn't actually a story. Let's
stop now and start again, and so it goes. It's
it's the difficulty.
Speaker 3 (02:36):
There used to be the bar ships so low in
the media. That used to be the role when I
started out as a reporter Moons and Moons Ago. If
you came back with footage that was like four people,
that would be straight in the bin. We're not running
that there's no way.
Speaker 1 (02:47):
That's unfortunately a resource thing these days, and once they
commit to you, Yeah, once they commit a resource to
a thing, it needs to be covered, come hell or
high water. And that's that's where, in part anyway, it's
gone wrong.
Speaker 2 (02:59):
Can we talk about the one person who lost the
election that no one's talking about?
Speaker 1 (03:03):
Who was that?
Speaker 2 (03:05):
Taylor Swift?
Speaker 1 (03:06):
Taylor Swift and the.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
Luis election celebrities.
Speaker 3 (03:11):
They've got to stop. They've got to realize, Hollywood elite,
how sick of them we are, and people don't want
to hear what they think. I love how George Clooney
is now being blamed for losing it.
Speaker 2 (03:21):
I thought, I thought you had a great editorial mic
actually about that earlier this week, at the risk of
having to sort of, you know, stuck up to you
and be nice to you as the new rules, but
really excellent. It was actually a there's a survey of
study done in North Carolina State University saying that young
people actually they didn't like celebrities telling them who to
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vote for. They actually went off they went off that
candidate a bit more, and they actually ended up going
off the celebrities.
Speaker 1 (03:49):
So I think there's going to be a bit of
a blow question, because I read a very interesting article
yesterday that was asking the question, did the celebrity endorsement
thing actually damage the campaign? They couldn't conclude with wither
it did or not, but you suggest that it probably did,
and I would tend to agree. But it also goes
back to what I've always said, and that is, there's
nothing wrong with Taylor Swift or Richie mccaugh or George
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Clooney or anybody you like, as long as they stay
in their lane. You love them for who they are,
not for whatever else it is in their life. I mean,
I loved Lebron, Yeah, because he's Lebron. I couldn't care
less who he votes for, and I'm not interested vote
for either, I mean, just play basketball.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Well, celebrities actually emerged once they started chopping their heads
off aristocrats and the French Revolution. So that's where that
I mean, we need people to look up to, but
are a particular kind. It's a particular kind of admiration.
We don't expect, as you say, we don't expect them.
If we want a king, we'll go to the king.
Speaker 1 (04:46):
By Coastal elites is what somebody called them, and I thought,
that's a good way of putting it. In Middle America,
and you've been there more than anyone else. To him,
in Middle America, it is not Los Angeles and it's
not New York. And they you know, yeah, they like
their songs. But apart from that, what they talk ut,
they wouldn't have a clue.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
And that it's a new era for Hollywood elites. They
don't look up to it. You know, when we were
growing up, they may have been icons. We might have
gone swooned and thought they were cool. These days, they
look at the p Diddy scandal, the Weinstein scandal, the
Epstein scandals, and they're like, they don't they don't have
any regard for Hollywood. They think they're just a bunch of.
Speaker 1 (05:16):
Extra very good point and a life lesson from a
famous person they talked to yesterday. Do you want to
know who I talked to yesterday?
Speaker 2 (05:23):
How was that? I?
Speaker 1 (05:25):
Unfortunately, Katie had a couple of people in the studio
during the news and they gave me a cap and
I said the difficulty in They said will you wear it?
And I said, I'd love to, but my wife says,
I've got the world's biggest head and I.
Speaker 2 (05:44):
Look, hey, that's not just me.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
The kids agree, and they've said they've told you the
same thing when you wear caps. But wait a minute,
what sort of this isn't a mega hat or anything,
is it.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It's a mega hat, isn't it.
Speaker 1 (05:54):
It's not a mega hat, it's a what It's a
white ferns cap and official white Ferns cap, and the
white Ferns are of course of the World Champs. And
they came in to see me with their trophy and
they gave me a cap and I and they said
will They said, will you wear it? And I said,
I really really really want to just put it on now,
and I don't want to go. I see, I see,
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I said my wife, what's the problem. I've got the
take it off? Take it off, Take it off, take
it off, take it off. The sounds like take it off.
It seems looking at me, going, how cool are you?
Take it off? It's fantastic. I'm going to keep it.
If I put it on backwards, how does that look? No,
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don't do that much worse anyway from giving you caps.
I don't know what to do because I want I
want to be patriotic and I want to support the
white ferns and I want to be part of the
World Championship team, but I don't want to look rude.
Speaker 2 (06:52):
Yeah, get a T shirt?
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Get it. We're a white fan T shirt yesterday? Yeah,
come on? Who is it to life? Lessons about age?
So I'm at Gregg's place getting the hair cut every
third Thursday. So Greg's just coming back from his injury
because he's the same age i am. He fell over
ice skating and he's just coming back take weeks of rehab.
And he said one of the things all the medicos
and stuff have talked to him about is doing certain
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activities when you reach a certain age, which is a
good lesson in life. He said he'd go ice skating again,
even though he's almost sixty. This was with his kids, right,
he went I skating. He didn't have a couple of
bettes and go out ice skating. He took his kids
on skirt So anyway, he fractured his shoulder and he'd
be stretched a couple of attendants.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Anyway, it's taken embarrassing for the child when dad takes
you ice skating and falls over and just about requires
an ambulance.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
That's embarrassing. That's what's funny. I was just talking to
Jason about that. Jason's off to a Christmas function tonight
and with the whole family. It's one of those whole
family work functions, and it's at a place where he
could do things that would embarrass him given his age
in size. The kids would love it, and it's entirely
possible he could end up injured tonight. And so that's
(08:05):
a good warning, Katie. Thank you for that. That's good. Yeah,
he should think about that. The other one was and anyway,
so it's what stuff do you keep doing at a
certain age knowing if it goes wrong you'll struggle to
get back to normality. And I thought that was a
good life lesson there.
Speaker 3 (08:20):
You can still cut your hair though, that's the making
well exactly.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (08:23):
Then I was talking with Jamie Oliver and he and
I was following that off the floor, Yeah, I said,
I said, I said, Jamie, what about the car the
other day? He was auctioning off an old Ford Capri
Mark one And you don't know about this, Katie, but
I put a couple of bids on it. No, And
I said, how did that go? In the end? And
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he told me what happened, et cetera, et cetera. And
I said, why why are you getting rid of it?
And he goes, I've reached an age where I just
don't want stuff. And I thought, now that's now, that's
another life lesson because I feel the same thing at
the moment. Yeah, I'm sick of stuff. Stuff's irrelevant. You
don't need stuff. We just divest ourselves stuff. And he's
already doing it, and I thought that that that, that's
that's worth listening to and learning as well.
Speaker 2 (09:05):
But are you Aren't you a big divestor anyway?
Speaker 1 (09:07):
Or saw you have? You?
Speaker 2 (09:09):
You seem like a thrower outer.
Speaker 1 (09:11):
Like we don't throw out, but I then bring back
in other stuff.
Speaker 2 (09:16):
Oh oh, I see I rotate.
Speaker 1 (09:18):
So my net, my net is zero, But I really
should be going backwards in terms of stuff.
Speaker 3 (09:25):
Yeah, but you hoarde certain things, so you're a sort
of minimalist. But when it comes to things like or
fragrance or cashms Marino, you seem to have a mountain.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
Of it without wanting to sound like a complete You
know what, My Fragrance collection is a good example of that, isn't.
Speaker 2 (09:43):
It my Fragrance collection. You already sound like that person,
you're already sound.
Speaker 1 (09:48):
I'm just not, you know, well, because because I can't.
Speaker 2 (09:53):
Shouldn't you shouldn't you be shouldn't you be clearing away
the foilballs? Shouldn't you be refining yourself?
Speaker 1 (09:59):
So sure, And that's that's the Joanie olibays Greg the
haircut a lesson in life. It's it's learn as you
go and constantly look to improve yourself. And one of
those things is to divest yourself properly of junk so
that you know.
Speaker 2 (10:13):
That you can I offer another piece of advice for
self improvement. Yes, so you were you were commenting on
a text yesterday that said, oh, we're going to end
up in Washington during the inauguration. You're like, oh, just
tell them you planned it. You realize there are kids listening.
You realize that this is how parents operate, and you've
let the kid out of the bag.
Speaker 1 (10:34):
You've let them all down exactly. Sorry, can you not
do that? My apologies?
Speaker 2 (10:39):
Has just walked into the room.
Speaker 1 (10:40):
Do not give away the parental secrets. Let's not go
there with Santa Claus then, shall we? Now? Nice to
see you guys. You have a good weekend. Kate talks
with Tim Wilson for another week.
Speaker 2 (10:48):
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