With Mike Hosking off for the Week, Andrew Dickens was joined by Tim Wilson and Kerre Woodham to Wrap the Week that was.
They discussed this weekend's All Blacks test against England - who are they picking to win? Tim's coastal retreat, and Christopher Luxon's excitement at the NATO summit.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Yes to wrap the week. Tim Wilson joins us as always.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Tell it, Tom Andrew, how's it going?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Very good? And thank you so much. Carrie Woodham preparing
heavily for her show to nine o'clock this morning, and
we've said there is no cake. There is no cake.
Please come and help us out and to do so.
And you're magnificently dressed in all black jersey. It is
the day and well.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The last time I wore this was at the World
Cup in France where I almost got put off rugby
for life. Watching England and South Africa. It was awful.
It was like watching rugby being murdered. I was so
I'm not you know, I thought England and like the
Test last week, I had no expectations at all. I
(00:47):
was so furious with England. I never wanted to see
them play anything ever again. But I thought they did
really well. It was a great test.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Was only one point in't it? And they both had
weeks to you to a week to Guinea better and Tim,
are you into this or not? Is this not your bag?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Why would you say something like that? No one loves
the rugby more than me and you come on, get.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Over it over wristling with testoster in this very morning.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'll tell I'll tell you what you're picking. What you're
picking twelve John Haunts picking a victory as well. I
kind of go against the experts. Elliott your your rugby
man's picking five. I'll go I'll split the difference. I'll
say seven, what do you think carry?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
No, I think it'd be more than I think it'll be. Yeah,
I think a victory and I think double figures. Do
you know the other thing? And I know I should
let it go, Let it go, let it go, as
Elsa would advocate. But when England are here, they train
at les Mills or have done it. I don't know
if this particular team does. But they leave their weights
(01:50):
behind for somebody else to pick up, which I just
find unforgivable.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And you've got to pick them up. You're going to
clean them.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And once I snapped at one young man and said,
your nanny's not here to pick up after you. You've
got to put You've got to put your weights back.
Here there we go, and he just looked at me
as though I was insane, an insane mad woman approaching him.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But put your weights back, boys, put you away, there's just.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
A lingering, harboring petty receipt cam.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, can we now just talk about this because darling Tana.
Of course, more details came out about how she might
have been involved with her husband's company, including a bit
of a contradant with someone a migrant worker, which involved
the cops being called, and she said, oh, I'm sorry,
I just got my mama bear on. So obviously you
got your mama bear on with the English player. What
is the mama bear.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
No, I got thin lipped head mistress on because I
thought they'd understand that better. Okay, if you want to
look like I think that just stands for violent and shouting. Really,
I mean you want to look what mamas do, like
the mama elephant who when that idiot South African approached
with a camera. No he wasn't. He was a Spanish
tourist in South Africa and approached a mother elephant with
(02:55):
her babies in a herd. He he paid in the
most brutal and horror way when she'd don Mamma elephant.
You know you can forgive an elephant, you cannot forgive
a rational woman for yelling and carrying on like a
pork Chop exactly. You've got an anger issue in the group.
For all the comboy ara and peace and love, there's
a lot of shouting going on there.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You reckon him, Mama Bear. Is that a decent enough excuse?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
No, well I think it's not. It's not. It's not
an excuse for that. That's that's a completely different situation.
But I am I am. I am very pro Mama
and Papa Beer because I actually had a son who
was like, he was trying to take a bean bag downstairs.
We're staying at a mates place at the moment. We're
out at Lee, so I'm running four kids at the
moment because my wife's offered the studio recording songs. And
(03:44):
he's like, Dad, can you carry the bean bag down
down the stairs. It's like, no, no, you can do
that yourself. So it's the different tempos of RS sort
of approaches, the Muma and Papa Beer.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Lifestyle of Tim Wilson where he's at a coastal retreat
to Lee and his wife is downstairs wearing Muslim with
flowers in his hair and recording songs and and and
you're hanging hang with the kids. It's it's like Laurel Canyon.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
No, it's not. It's it's a Madison Bay. That's that's
a very different sitcom. What's happening is be're actually you're
actually making breakfast and making their beds and putting on
their touxedos for a caked breakfast in the morning. Now
it's a circus down here, so please you guys save
me now.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Honestly, school holidays. I do not gone of the days
where you'd pack up the car every school holidays and
one parent or two would take off and have a
lovely holiday. Usually that's when the fairies would go on strike.
That's exactly when the fairies would yeah, a single time.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
How would you now just run aground round?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Have you ever actually put yourself in the position of
the crew that were on the boat at the time
when they're just sort of going, oh, well, the boat's
working all nice and all good and all that sort
of thing, and someone bumps a button and then to
turn the button off, you've got to push another button
for five seconds, and Allen of course is looking in
the in the manual go hey, how does this work?
And finally when he figures out, oh mate, you gotta
(05:10):
hold it down for five seconds and they hold it
down and the South Island continues to come closer. Can
you imagine what it must have been like in that fairy?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
To me, the gold standard of incompetence and fairies is
that terrible Italian fairy captain who ran it around and
passengers died and he was the first to flee the
ship after entertaining a little miss bang bang up in
the up in the captain.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He just wanted to take the boat closer for a
bit of.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You, I know, and the coastguard said get back to
your ship, and he went, no, it's dangerous there about it.
Until you can compete with that kind of egregious, appalling behavior,
then I'll just wait for the investigation and see what's wort.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Look, look a little text over just I met him,
being the person who also sat there and went, hmm,
I think that python's fully.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I have a bit of sympathy for the I really do.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I'd look, you'd got to go, you feel sick and
you go, and can I run there and catch it?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
No, it's that horrible thing if you don't mean it.
But the damage is so great that I mean because
I always.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Say that you know that furniture, that furniture that you
buy on the cheap and you have to put it
together yourself. And this is actually one of the if
anyone is planning to get married, they should do that
together first. And if they're still looking with love and
one another's eyes, go forward.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And the family realized just before you've actually put in
the last bolt that you've got it all wrong in
the first place. You built the thing upside down and
inside out. And they've been laughing for the last ten
minutes at you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And then yeah, I want to apologize to stores too,
because twice we've got to the end of that, or
we got to the end of that and I said, look,
they went back to the store. There wasn't that extra
bit you said that we needed. It wasn't there, And
they just hand it over with this sort of resigned
look in their eyes. And you get home and it's there, It.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Is there, It is okay, Tim Wilson. Have we ever
seen a New Zealand Prime minister more delighted and excited
to be at a global summit than Christopher Lexon?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah? Yeah, no, he's he's and he's cheering a committee.
He's getting getting tough on China interesting sort of wider
geopolitical situation. So it seems that Joe Biden has gained
Christopher Luxon this week but lost George Clooney. So I
don't think it's fucking good for Biden. I'm sorry that
he is.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He's bouncing around like an anergizer bunny, going oh my god,
oh look that's that person. And oh look there's Trudeau
and he's just so just what.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
He's energetic and he's he is. I mean, that's what
happens when you get up at four a new exercise
and you don't drink. Did that be a listen to
all of us?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Really?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But I mean at least he's there. And when Ston
Peters is out there on the on the global stage,
I mean jinda a doing to be fair was he
was out there on the global stage as well. But
you know he's picking up where she left off.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And you can imagine world leaders are going, oh look,
here comes out the news in Prime minister. God he's happy,
isn't he got? That's lovely?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You know, positivity on a Friday is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Absolutely, that is so true that I feel.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So sorry for Biden's press secretary. I think she's doing
an amazing job. Kareen. Yeah, I look at her and think,
however much you're paid, triple it. Joe Biden cannot stay there.
He just can't trumps pressed, do you.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, here's the deal. The US E. Columny is doing
incredibly so whoever's running the joint doesn't really just keep
it going. But you've got to have a good.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Front man, for Heaven's sake. I mean, you wouldn't put up.
You've got to have a good front man and a
great band behind you. You know, you can't have Joe
Biden as yours you front.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, why do the Democrats not have enough walls to
actually go for someone else? You can say the same
about the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Well, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know, have they lost their mojo? Have they lost
their courage? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
You know, it's incomprehensible to me that that's it. I mean,
do everybody that the whole world that that is it?
That's what America can offer as front people?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And it's I think, yeah, And it's a problem I
would say with the with the notion and in a sense,
the notion that politicians are a class on their own
and and and the fact that the American elites aren't
renewing themselves from below. So I mean, and we've got
a bit of a problem like that in New Zealand
as well, because like we don't have that many actually
(09:20):
we don't have any working class people in parliament anymore.
So we need we need more people. We need the
people in the seats.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
We do have working class people in there who would
describe themselves as working class.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We have we have a lot of academics. We have
a lot of academic class. We have a lot of
we had a lot more academic legal class. We have
all those sorts of people as well. So you know,
so I see what.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Families who come from you know, to be honest, have
you not noticed big.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
More optimistic most of them can form sentences, full sentences,
unlike Joe Biden. So let's emphasize the positives. Let's go
across laxon On and DC.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And have you not I also notice that there's a
generation that's looking at all the jobs that how sort
of generation does and they sit there go, well, you know,
I don't really want to do that anymore. And so
you're quite right, we're not renewing ourselves. As Tim said before,
like who wants to read the news on the TV?
Who watches the TV these days is a millennial.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But see that's not renewing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I mean I think it's as a new generation.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think it's a new I think regeneration is better
than just replicating good stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Tim Wilson, have a great weekend, Kerry Wouldham have a
great Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
For more from the mic Asking Breakfast, Listen live to
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Yes to wrap the week. Tim Wilson joins us as always.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
Tell it, Tom Andrew, how's it going?
Speaker 1 (00:06):
Very good? And thank you so much. Carrie Woodham preparing
heavily for her show to nine o'clock this morning, and
we've said there is no cake. There is no cake.
Please come and help us out and to do so.
And you're magnificently dressed in all black jersey. It is
the day and well.
Speaker 3 (00:25):
The last time I wore this was at the World
Cup in France where I almost got put off rugby
for life. Watching England and South Africa. It was awful.
It was like watching rugby being murdered. I was so
I'm not you know, I thought England and like the
Test last week, I had no expectations at all. I
(00:47):
was so furious with England. I never wanted to see
them play anything ever again. But I thought they did
really well. It was a great test.
Speaker 1 (00:55):
Was only one point in't it? And they both had
weeks to you to a week to Guinea better and Tim,
are you into this or not? Is this not your bag?
Speaker 2 (01:05):
Why would you say something like that? No one loves
the rugby more than me and you come on, get.
Speaker 3 (01:09):
Over it over wristling with testoster in this very morning.
Speaker 2 (01:15):
I'll tell I'll tell you what you're picking. What you're
picking twelve John Haunts picking a victory as well. I
kind of go against the experts. Elliott your your rugby
man's picking five. I'll go I'll split the difference. I'll
say seven, what do you think carry?
Speaker 3 (01:29):
No, I think it'd be more than I think it'll be. Yeah,
I think a victory and I think double figures. Do
you know the other thing? And I know I should
let it go, Let it go, let it go, as
Elsa would advocate. But when England are here, they train
at les Mills or have done it. I don't know
if this particular team does. But they leave their weights
(01:50):
behind for somebody else to pick up, which I just
find unforgivable.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And you've got to pick them up. You're going to
clean them.
Speaker 3 (01:56):
And once I snapped at one young man and said,
your nanny's not here to pick up after you. You've
got to put You've got to put your weights back.
Here there we go, and he just looked at me
as though I was insane, an insane mad woman approaching him.
Speaker 1 (02:07):
But put your weights back, boys, put you away, there's just.
Speaker 3 (02:10):
A lingering, harboring petty receipt cam.
Speaker 1 (02:13):
Well, can we now just talk about this because darling Tana.
Of course, more details came out about how she might
have been involved with her husband's company, including a bit
of a contradant with someone a migrant worker, which involved
the cops being called, and she said, oh, I'm sorry,
I just got my mama bear on. So obviously you
got your mama bear on with the English player. What
is the mama bear.
Speaker 3 (02:33):
No, I got thin lipped head mistress on because I
thought they'd understand that better. Okay, if you want to
look like I think that just stands for violent and shouting. Really,
I mean you want to look what mamas do, like
the mama elephant who when that idiot South African approached
with a camera. No he wasn't. He was a Spanish
tourist in South Africa and approached a mother elephant with
(02:55):
her babies in a herd. He he paid in the
most brutal and horror way when she'd don Mamma elephant.
You know you can forgive an elephant, you cannot forgive
a rational woman for yelling and carrying on like a
pork Chop exactly. You've got an anger issue in the group.
For all the comboy ara and peace and love, there's
a lot of shouting going on there.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
You reckon him, Mama Bear. Is that a decent enough excuse?
Speaker 3 (03:21):
No?
Speaker 2 (03:22):
No, well I think it's not. It's not. It's not
an excuse for that. That's that's a completely different situation.
But I am I am. I am very pro Mama
and Papa Beer because I actually had a son who
was like, he was trying to take a bean bag downstairs.
We're staying at a mates place at the moment. We're
out at Lee, so I'm running four kids at the
moment because my wife's offered the studio recording songs. And
(03:44):
he's like, Dad, can you carry the bean bag down
down the stairs. It's like, no, no, you can do
that yourself. So it's the different tempos of RS sort
of approaches, the Muma and Papa Beer.
Speaker 1 (03:57):
Lifestyle of Tim Wilson where he's at a coastal retreat
to Lee and his wife is downstairs wearing Muslim with
flowers in his hair and recording songs and and and
you're hanging hang with the kids. It's it's like Laurel Canyon.
Speaker 2 (04:12):
No, it's not. It's it's a Madison Bay. That's that's
a very different sitcom. What's happening is be're actually you're
actually making breakfast and making their beds and putting on
their touxedos for a caked breakfast in the morning. Now
it's a circus down here, so please you guys save
me now.
Speaker 3 (04:31):
Honestly, school holidays. I do not gone of the days
where you'd pack up the car every school holidays and
one parent or two would take off and have a
lovely holiday. Usually that's when the fairies would go on strike.
That's exactly when the fairies would yeah, a single time.
Speaker 2 (04:47):
How would you now just run aground round?
Speaker 1 (04:50):
Have you ever actually put yourself in the position of
the crew that were on the boat at the time
when they're just sort of going, oh, well, the boat's
working all nice and all good and all that sort
of thing, and someone bumps a button and then to
turn the button off, you've got to push another button
for five seconds, and Allen of course is looking in
the in the manual go hey, how does this work?
And finally when he figures out, oh mate, you gotta
(05:10):
hold it down for five seconds and they hold it
down and the South Island continues to come closer. Can
you imagine what it must have been like in that fairy?
Speaker 3 (05:19):
To me, the gold standard of incompetence and fairies is
that terrible Italian fairy captain who ran it around and
passengers died and he was the first to flee the
ship after entertaining a little miss bang bang up in
the up in the captain.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
He just wanted to take the boat closer for a
bit of.
Speaker 3 (05:34):
You, I know, and the coastguard said get back to
your ship, and he went, no, it's dangerous there about it.
Until you can compete with that kind of egregious, appalling behavior,
then I'll just wait for the investigation and see what's wort.
Speaker 1 (05:48):
Look, look a little text over just I met him,
being the person who also sat there and went, hmm,
I think that python's fully.
Speaker 3 (05:56):
I have a bit of sympathy for the I really do.
Speaker 1 (05:58):
I'd look, you'd got to go, you feel sick and
you go, and can I run there and catch it?
Speaker 3 (06:04):
No, it's that horrible thing if you don't mean it.
But the damage is so great that I mean because
I always.
Speaker 2 (06:12):
Say that you know that furniture, that furniture that you
buy on the cheap and you have to put it
together yourself. And this is actually one of the if
anyone is planning to get married, they should do that
together first. And if they're still looking with love and
one another's eyes, go forward.
Speaker 1 (06:28):
And the family realized just before you've actually put in
the last bolt that you've got it all wrong in
the first place. You built the thing upside down and
inside out. And they've been laughing for the last ten
minutes at you.
Speaker 3 (06:37):
And then yeah, I want to apologize to stores too,
because twice we've got to the end of that, or
we got to the end of that and I said, look,
they went back to the store. There wasn't that extra
bit you said that we needed. It wasn't there, And
they just hand it over with this sort of resigned
look in their eyes. And you get home and it's there, It.
Speaker 1 (06:55):
Is there, It is okay, Tim Wilson. Have we ever
seen a New Zealand Prime minister more delighted and excited
to be at a global summit than Christopher Lexon?
Speaker 2 (07:07):
Yeah? Yeah, no, he's he's and he's cheering a committee.
He's getting getting tough on China interesting sort of wider
geopolitical situation. So it seems that Joe Biden has gained
Christopher Luxon this week but lost George Clooney. So I
don't think it's fucking good for Biden. I'm sorry that
he is.
Speaker 1 (07:25):
He's bouncing around like an anergizer bunny, going oh my god,
oh look that's that person. And oh look there's Trudeau
and he's just so just what.
Speaker 3 (07:34):
He's energetic and he's he is. I mean, that's what
happens when you get up at four a new exercise
and you don't drink. Did that be a listen to
all of us?
Speaker 2 (07:42):
Really?
Speaker 3 (07:42):
But I mean at least he's there. And when Ston
Peters is out there on the on the global stage,
I mean jinda a doing to be fair was he
was out there on the global stage as well. But
you know he's picking up where she left off.
Speaker 1 (07:55):
And you can imagine world leaders are going, oh look,
here comes out the news in Prime minister. God he's happy,
isn't he got? That's lovely?
Speaker 3 (08:00):
You know, positivity on a Friday is fantastic.
Speaker 1 (08:03):
Absolutely, that is so true that I feel.
Speaker 3 (08:05):
So sorry for Biden's press secretary. I think she's doing
an amazing job. Kareen. Yeah, I look at her and think,
however much you're paid, triple it. Joe Biden cannot stay there.
He just can't trumps pressed, do you.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Well, here's the deal. The US E. Columny is doing
incredibly so whoever's running the joint doesn't really just keep
it going. But you've got to have a good.
Speaker 3 (08:30):
Front man, for Heaven's sake. I mean, you wouldn't put up.
You've got to have a good front man and a
great band behind you. You know, you can't have Joe
Biden as yours you front.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
Well, why do the Democrats not have enough walls to
actually go for someone else? You can say the same
about the Republicans.
Speaker 3 (08:44):
Well, that's true, that's true.
Speaker 1 (08:45):
You know, have they lost their mojo? Have they lost
their courage? I don't know.
Speaker 3 (08:50):
You know, it's incomprehensible to me that that's it. I mean,
do everybody that the whole world that that is it?
That's what America can offer as front people?
Speaker 2 (09:00):
And it's I think, yeah, And it's a problem I
would say with the with the notion and in a sense,
the notion that politicians are a class on their own
and and and the fact that the American elites aren't
renewing themselves from below. So I mean, and we've got
a bit of a problem like that in New Zealand
as well, because like we don't have that many actually
(09:20):
we don't have any working class people in parliament anymore.
So we need we need more people. We need the
people in the seats.
Speaker 3 (09:27):
We do have working class people in there who would
describe themselves as working class.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
We have we have a lot of academics. We have
a lot of academic class. We have a lot of
we had a lot more academic legal class. We have
all those sorts of people as well. So you know,
so I see what.
Speaker 3 (09:44):
Families who come from you know, to be honest, have
you not noticed big.
Speaker 2 (09:48):
More optimistic most of them can form sentences, full sentences,
unlike Joe Biden. So let's emphasize the positives. Let's go
across laxon On and DC.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
And have you not I also notice that there's a
generation that's looking at all the jobs that how sort
of generation does and they sit there go, well, you know,
I don't really want to do that anymore. And so
you're quite right, we're not renewing ourselves. As Tim said before,
like who wants to read the news on the TV?
Who watches the TV these days is a millennial.
Speaker 3 (10:16):
But see that's not renewing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
I mean I think it's as a new generation.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
I think it's a new I think regeneration is better
than just replicating good stuff.
Speaker 1 (10:25):
Tim Wilson, have a great weekend, Kerry Wouldham have a
great Thank you so much.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
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news talks it'd be from six am weekdays, or follow
the podcast on iHeartRadio.
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