December 19, 2024 • 11 mins
With Christmas just around the corner, Trish Sherson and Tim Wilson joined Heather du Plessis-Allan to Wrap the Year.
They discussed Liam Lawson, drinking, and revealed their politicians of the year.
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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Tim Wilson Trish Sharson with us. Hello you two, Hello,
Harry Christmas, Sish. You on the road up north?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yet I am up north? You've read it, you can.
I came up last night. You can probably hear the
Mama Coo swaying in the breeze.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh listen to you. Did you go up north because
you were expecting the traffic to be heavy today or what?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, just just the timing worked out and couldn't wait
to get up here. And you know we have fiber
to the door now so it's all going in the
Northland Regional Office.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
How good does that work?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm worried. I'm worried about the GDP of the People's
Republic of gray lind trash. I mean, what the heck's
happening to the cafes the wine bars while you're up north?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, it's pretty much what adrianaw has done to the
entire economy when I leave Grayland fall through the floor.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, speaking of wedge, Jeez, that was rough, wasn't it, Tim?
What a way to end the year?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, worst recession since nineteen ninety one,
and it's just it's so sobering. But then again, It
reflects I think what people see when they go to
the supermarket, when they go to the petrol station, and yeah,
it's a it's a tough tough time.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, in a weird way. Trush. Actually, I was happy
to see that figure yesterday because because it bore out
what we had been feeling, and it felt weird to
be saying, this is the worst experience we've had in
forty years, and then the numbers didn't back it up.
To have the numbers back it up actually kind of
reaffirms you, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It does, And let's not underestimate that. I mean, I've
had Chason Willis where there were for We're coming up
nineteen in April, and we've talked about this a bit
this year. You know, we went through the DFC a
few years after, we started being through a whole range
of ups and downs. But I think we've talked about
(01:49):
this here. This year has been tough for everyone in business,
and not just because of this year, but it's come
off the back of you know, it's the last of
I have really hard years and every year everyone goes, oh,
we want it to be better, because that's human psychology.
So I just want to give a shout out actually
to everyone this year who is in business. And you know,
(02:12):
I think it has been really really tough.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Really, if you're still standing. If you're still standing, hats
off to you. I mean I work at a charity
and it's tough in the charitable sector as well. Let
me tell you.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, listen, Tricia, if you've had it up north already,
have you had your Christmas party?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Had our Christmas lunch yesterday which was really nice?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And you did you have the Christmas lunch and then
you drove quick?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well I know where you're going with this. And one
of the things that's been an interesting year in twenty
twenty five for me is that I have given away
drinking forever. And not that I will, not that I
was a huge drinker, but I just got to the
point where it just didn't suit me anymore. And I
(02:59):
have to say it's been I'm not doing the big
Paddy gower, you know, come to Jesus go around the
country talking about how great it's not drinking kind of
a deal. But yeah, I have really enjoyed it so
I can drink after a work lunch drive drive.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Did you have how many of you had already.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I just did. I just heard that fudy and slipped.
Did you hear that? I'm a big fan of coming
to Jesus? But did you have your work lunch? Did
you have your work lunch at the Northern Club? Did you?
Did you get to rinse anyone while you were there?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Did that?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We were more on a deck facing the ocean than
within the sort of ivy covered, ivy covered calls.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Trish, I want to know about this. Why did you
give up the drinking? Was had you? Did you? Were
you doing an ema aiken? Did you do one of those?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'll tell you why. Probably for the last four or
so years, I had just felt that just physically it
didn't agree with me anymore. That was really it. And
I'd had some quite big times off and you know,
I'm quite a fan of of yoga, and what I
had found was it's just amazing how it kind of
gets in your joints, and you know, a couple of
(04:08):
drinks one night, you get into down dog the next
day and you're more like the the yeah, you know,
the t rusting and man, you.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Can't get but that you need to really want. You
can't get your butt to peak properly and get that
stretch in the down with dogs that you need. What
about you, Tim, how are you going on the drinking front?
Because I'm fascinated by this because I I had to.
I had to go real light on the drinking. Not
because I'm pregnant, obviously, I don't rink it all because i'mregnant.
Because you're pregnant, yeah, but because when you've got little
(04:37):
kids around, it's just too hard. You just it just
it doesn't fit in your life anymore. What about you?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, Actually, you know what, I've actually quit until Christmas
Day and.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's going to be a blowout.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
What what I think it's going to be. You're going
to be hosing everyone with champagne? No, No, I just
I just had this head, this moment where I thought
what happened was we had some neighbors come over and
we had three gener talents before six pm. And it's
just not a business model or the future when you've
got young kids. So I just thought, I'm going to
(05:12):
give it a break. And it's not easy, I've got
to say, but I'm enjoying it eating a lot more sweets.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, that's what happens. He is the trouble is if
you start drinking before dinner time, then you start asking
the two year old to put themselves to bed, and
that's really not why Tim, How good is that news
about Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The stuff about what his family had to what was it?
Did they mortgage their home.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
To pay sold the house? The girls had to stop?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The house sisters had to stop the Irish dancer.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Which is we're actually quite a weird family when you
think about it. I mean, most New Zealand families the
girls do netball and the boys do rugby. But here
we've got motorsports in Irish dancing.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But look how it's panned out. I mean it's well,
it's great to see, yeah, the sort of you know,
we see the ascent and we just we actually see
people at the top of the pardon near the top
of the mountain, but actually there's there's a long way
up there. So I was fascinated to hear about that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Motor sports is a sport trash, but esports is not
a sport.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, I think it is a huge professional sport if
you're into esport, but I personally see it as different
from sport as we know it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I e.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
A physical sport.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But I'm trying to figure out why we are like
this about it is. It's what's the difference?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Because we expect if you're doing sport that you have
to be actually there has to be a physical challenge
involved in it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, I think I think I think ahead, go ahead,
I think so, And I think that's probably in the
end the decision that high Performance Sport in New Zealand
has made around not giving funding to esports because high
performance sport, you know, they are about the kind of
traditional high.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Performance sports that we think about like cycling and rowing and.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And the other thing I would favorite esports is this
is a billion, billion, billion dollar business globally. There is
huge money in esports around the world, and I'm just
I'm not sure that if you're comparing it to the
sports that high performance sports fund, a lot of those
sports people still have to be amateur and tough it
(07:19):
out and they really need that funding.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, it's a little bit. You know what I think
it is, Tim, I think that it's like tomatoes being
technically a fruit, Like you can say technically you are
a sport, but I'm not going to put you in
my fruit salad. Do you know what I mean? Like,
donatoes are a fruit, but it's not really a fruit.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, exactly exactly. I would submit that esports are a competition,
they're not a sport, So it's a sports a bit
like say poker or Rubik's Cube Cube. I'd say beer
pong's more of a sport than esport. And this whole,
this whole, I guess the thing too is like the
way that we live our lives these days. We're actually
quite disconnected from our bodies and a lot of what
(07:59):
we do so you know, we're creatures, are body, mind
and soul, but a lot of what we do is
actually we don't really use our bodies. And I think,
you know, trust to your point. Once you know, once
you sort of start to connect, you know, you do
yoga or something you think, actually a lot of the
stuff I'm not doing I should be doing. So I'll
quite like high performance sport New Zealand for making this decision.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Ballsy, Okay, listen, just let you're on a very quick
little secret.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Actually, speaking of tomatoes, I have the best tomato crop
ever this year, and I'm quite a big tomato grower
and let me let me tell you can now buy
a tomato that's grafted onto rootstock and on one half
of the vine you get an orange cherry and the
other half you get a red cherry.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So cool.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Have you got that going on?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I have got that going on. It's absolutely fantastic. And
it's still not too late to plant your tomatoes. And
anyone out there.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is good point, because our tomato plant is going to plants. Actually,
I've gone double this year. It's going nuts. Actually, so
maybe it's the thing in the in the in the
in theod space. Yeah, now, okay, who's your politician of
the year.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh yeah, look I'm going to go. I'm going to
go with Simeon Brown. Doesn't escalate, doesn't let things escalate,
stuff that counts, rhoades, potholes, etc. But I think, you know,
Winston geopolitical, he's do Winston's a great foreign minister, and
I think geopolitics is going to rise up in the
next two or three years.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I agree with you. I think in time we will
be grateful for Winston actually for what he's doing right now.
What do you Reckontrish? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I have felt good actually with Winston as foreign minister.
He has the gravitask. He takes the role seriously. He
really gets it and I think he is respected and
he's put in a lot more work into our relationships.
My top performer this year is Ericas Stanford. I think
she's done fantastic things in education and it's an area
(09:46):
we absolutely need to get on top of in New Zealand.
But I've got two others sitting underneath that, and these
are actually prizes for something we now undervalue in politics,
which is oratory and the ability to speak in the house.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Guess Shane Jones is in there.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And well no, Shane, Shane is great. I've got actually
two up and comers. One is a new first term
MP Cameron Brewer. If you watch Cameron, he has that
old political skill. He can stand up in the house,
he can speak on any piece of legislation that the
whippers just probably chucked it in five minutes beforehand, and
he's bringing back I think that skill of oratory and
(10:24):
speaking in the house great to watch. The other one
is Hannah RAFFERTYMPI clark for her, she's the young Maori
politician and pul Maori. Her speech on the fore Court
of Parliament at the heckoy is one of the best
political speeches I have seen in many years?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Was it better than her? Which actually was really cool?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, that was actually and if you think about politics,
politics is theater. That was actually brilliant theater that everyone
around the world watched her. But her speech to that
Hackoy was and length, absolutely perfect, brilliant manna from such
a young person.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I loved it. Can I throw? Can I throw an
accolade out? One to just quickly Chris Luxon's end of
the year speech this year, My goodness, it was like
a comedic triumph.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It was it was actually you go.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
If Labor was in charge of Center's workshop, the elves
will be charging consultants. The sleigh would cost four billion
dollars and the reindeer would be working from home. Pay
a speech writer, more personal pay.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right, guys, go well. Merry Christmas to you both, trishas.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And Terry christ Christmas everyone.
Speaker 3 (11:36):
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Tim Wilson Trish Sharson with us. Hello you two, Hello,
Harry Christmas, Sish. You on the road up north?
Speaker 2 (00:05):
Yet I am up north? You've read it, you can.
I came up last night. You can probably hear the
Mama Coo swaying in the breeze.
Speaker 1 (00:16):
Oh listen to you. Did you go up north because
you were expecting the traffic to be heavy today or what?
Speaker 2 (00:22):
No, just just the timing worked out and couldn't wait
to get up here. And you know we have fiber
to the door now so it's all going in the
Northland Regional Office.
Speaker 1 (00:33):
How good does that work?
Speaker 3 (00:35):
I'm worried. I'm worried about the GDP of the People's
Republic of gray lind trash. I mean, what the heck's
happening to the cafes the wine bars while you're up north?
Speaker 2 (00:44):
Well, it's pretty much what adrianaw has done to the
entire economy when I leave Grayland fall through the floor.
Speaker 1 (00:51):
Yes, speaking of wedge, Jeez, that was rough, wasn't it, Tim?
What a way to end the year?
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Yeah yeah, yeah, I mean, worst recession since nineteen ninety one,
and it's just it's so sobering. But then again, It
reflects I think what people see when they go to
the supermarket, when they go to the petrol station, and yeah,
it's a it's a tough tough time.
Speaker 1 (01:12):
Yeah, in a weird way. Trush. Actually, I was happy
to see that figure yesterday because because it bore out
what we had been feeling, and it felt weird to
be saying, this is the worst experience we've had in
forty years, and then the numbers didn't back it up.
To have the numbers back it up actually kind of
reaffirms you, doesn't it.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
It does, And let's not underestimate that. I mean, I've
had Chason Willis where there were for We're coming up
nineteen in April, and we've talked about this a bit
this year. You know, we went through the DFC a
few years after, we started being through a whole range
of ups and downs. But I think we've talked about
(01:49):
this here. This year has been tough for everyone in business,
and not just because of this year, but it's come
off the back of you know, it's the last of
I have really hard years and every year everyone goes, oh,
we want it to be better, because that's human psychology.
So I just want to give a shout out actually
to everyone this year who is in business. And you know,
(02:12):
I think it has been really really tough.
Speaker 3 (02:15):
Really, if you're still standing. If you're still standing, hats
off to you. I mean I work at a charity
and it's tough in the charitable sector as well. Let
me tell you.
Speaker 1 (02:25):
Yes, listen, Tricia, if you've had it up north already,
have you had your Christmas party?
Speaker 2 (02:30):
Had our Christmas lunch yesterday which was really nice?
Speaker 1 (02:35):
And you did you have the Christmas lunch and then
you drove quick?
Speaker 2 (02:39):
Well I know where you're going with this. And one
of the things that's been an interesting year in twenty
twenty five for me is that I have given away
drinking forever. And not that I will, not that I
was a huge drinker, but I just got to the
point where it just didn't suit me anymore. And I
(02:59):
have to say it's been I'm not doing the big
Paddy gower, you know, come to Jesus go around the
country talking about how great it's not drinking kind of
a deal. But yeah, I have really enjoyed it so
I can drink after a work lunch drive drive.
Speaker 1 (03:16):
Did you have how many of you had already.
Speaker 3 (03:17):
I just did. I just heard that fudy and slipped.
Did you hear that? I'm a big fan of coming
to Jesus? But did you have your work lunch? Did
you have your work lunch at the Northern Club? Did you?
Did you get to rinse anyone while you were there?
Speaker 4 (03:28):
Did that?
Speaker 2 (03:30):
We were more on a deck facing the ocean than
within the sort of ivy covered, ivy covered calls.
Speaker 1 (03:37):
Trish, I want to know about this. Why did you
give up the drinking? Was had you? Did you? Were
you doing an ema aiken? Did you do one of those?
Speaker 2 (03:46):
I'll tell you why. Probably for the last four or
so years, I had just felt that just physically it
didn't agree with me anymore. That was really it. And
I'd had some quite big times off and you know,
I'm quite a fan of of yoga, and what I
had found was it's just amazing how it kind of
gets in your joints, and you know, a couple of
(04:08):
drinks one night, you get into down dog the next
day and you're more like the the yeah, you know,
the t rusting and man, you.
Speaker 1 (04:15):
Can't get but that you need to really want. You
can't get your butt to peak properly and get that
stretch in the down with dogs that you need. What
about you, Tim, how are you going on the drinking front?
Because I'm fascinated by this because I I had to.
I had to go real light on the drinking. Not
because I'm pregnant, obviously, I don't rink it all because i'mregnant.
Because you're pregnant, yeah, but because when you've got little
(04:37):
kids around, it's just too hard. You just it just
it doesn't fit in your life anymore. What about you?
Speaker 2 (04:43):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (04:44):
Yeah, Actually, you know what, I've actually quit until Christmas
Day and.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
It's going to be a blowout.
Speaker 3 (04:50):
What what I think it's going to be. You're going
to be hosing everyone with champagne? No, No, I just
I just had this head, this moment where I thought
what happened was we had some neighbors come over and
we had three gener talents before six pm. And it's
just not a business model or the future when you've
got young kids. So I just thought, I'm going to
(05:12):
give it a break. And it's not easy, I've got
to say, but I'm enjoying it eating a lot more sweets.
Speaker 1 (05:18):
Yeah, that's what happens. He is the trouble is if
you start drinking before dinner time, then you start asking
the two year old to put themselves to bed, and
that's really not why Tim, How good is that news
about Liam Lawson.
Speaker 3 (05:27):
The stuff about what his family had to what was it?
Did they mortgage their home.
Speaker 1 (05:32):
To pay sold the house? The girls had to stop?
Speaker 3 (05:35):
The house sisters had to stop the Irish dancer.
Speaker 1 (05:37):
Which is we're actually quite a weird family when you
think about it. I mean, most New Zealand families the
girls do netball and the boys do rugby. But here
we've got motorsports in Irish dancing.
Speaker 3 (05:48):
But look how it's panned out. I mean it's well,
it's great to see, yeah, the sort of you know,
we see the ascent and we just we actually see
people at the top of the pardon near the top
of the mountain, but actually there's there's a long way
up there. So I was fascinated to hear about that.
Speaker 1 (06:04):
Motor sports is a sport trash, but esports is not
a sport.
Speaker 2 (06:10):
Well, I think it is a huge professional sport if
you're into esport, but I personally see it as different
from sport as we know it.
Speaker 1 (06:23):
I e.
Speaker 2 (06:24):
A physical sport.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
But I'm trying to figure out why we are like
this about it is. It's what's the difference?
Speaker 2 (06:28):
Is it?
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Because we expect if you're doing sport that you have
to be actually there has to be a physical challenge
involved in it.
Speaker 4 (06:35):
Yeah, I think I think I think ahead, go ahead,
I think so, And I think that's probably in the
end the decision that high Performance Sport in New Zealand
has made around not giving funding to esports because high
performance sport, you know, they are about the kind of
traditional high.
Speaker 2 (06:53):
Performance sports that we think about like cycling and rowing and.
Speaker 1 (06:57):
Et cetera, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (06:58):
And the other thing I would favorite esports is this
is a billion, billion, billion dollar business globally. There is
huge money in esports around the world, and I'm just
I'm not sure that if you're comparing it to the
sports that high performance sports fund, a lot of those
sports people still have to be amateur and tough it
(07:19):
out and they really need that funding.
Speaker 1 (07:21):
Yeah, it's a little bit. You know what I think
it is, Tim, I think that it's like tomatoes being
technically a fruit, Like you can say technically you are
a sport, but I'm not going to put you in
my fruit salad. Do you know what I mean? Like,
donatoes are a fruit, but it's not really a fruit.
Speaker 3 (07:37):
Yeah, exactly exactly. I would submit that esports are a competition,
they're not a sport, So it's a sports a bit
like say poker or Rubik's Cube Cube. I'd say beer
pong's more of a sport than esport. And this whole,
this whole, I guess the thing too is like the
way that we live our lives these days. We're actually
quite disconnected from our bodies and a lot of what
(07:59):
we do so you know, we're creatures, are body, mind
and soul, but a lot of what we do is
actually we don't really use our bodies. And I think,
you know, trust to your point. Once you know, once
you sort of start to connect, you know, you do
yoga or something you think, actually a lot of the
stuff I'm not doing I should be doing. So I'll
quite like high performance sport New Zealand for making this decision.
Speaker 1 (08:19):
Ballsy, Okay, listen, just let you're on a very quick
little secret.
Speaker 2 (08:23):
Actually, speaking of tomatoes, I have the best tomato crop
ever this year, and I'm quite a big tomato grower
and let me let me tell you can now buy
a tomato that's grafted onto rootstock and on one half
of the vine you get an orange cherry and the
other half you get a red cherry.
Speaker 4 (08:39):
So cool.
Speaker 1 (08:40):
Have you got that going on?
Speaker 2 (08:41):
I have got that going on. It's absolutely fantastic. And
it's still not too late to plant your tomatoes. And
anyone out there.
Speaker 1 (08:47):
Is good point, because our tomato plant is going to plants. Actually,
I've gone double this year. It's going nuts. Actually, so
maybe it's the thing in the in the in the
in theod space. Yeah, now, okay, who's your politician of
the year.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
Oh yeah, look I'm going to go. I'm going to
go with Simeon Brown. Doesn't escalate, doesn't let things escalate,
stuff that counts, rhoades, potholes, etc. But I think, you know,
Winston geopolitical, he's do Winston's a great foreign minister, and
I think geopolitics is going to rise up in the
next two or three years.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I agree with you. I think in time we will
be grateful for Winston actually for what he's doing right now.
What do you Reckontrish? Yeah?
Speaker 2 (09:24):
I have felt good actually with Winston as foreign minister.
He has the gravitask. He takes the role seriously. He
really gets it and I think he is respected and
he's put in a lot more work into our relationships.
My top performer this year is Ericas Stanford. I think
she's done fantastic things in education and it's an area
(09:46):
we absolutely need to get on top of in New Zealand.
But I've got two others sitting underneath that, and these
are actually prizes for something we now undervalue in politics,
which is oratory and the ability to speak in the house.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Guess Shane Jones is in there.
Speaker 2 (10:02):
And well no, Shane, Shane is great. I've got actually
two up and comers. One is a new first term
MP Cameron Brewer. If you watch Cameron, he has that
old political skill. He can stand up in the house,
he can speak on any piece of legislation that the
whippers just probably chucked it in five minutes beforehand, and
he's bringing back I think that skill of oratory and
(10:24):
speaking in the house great to watch. The other one
is Hannah RAFFERTYMPI clark for her, she's the young Maori
politician and pul Maori. Her speech on the fore Court
of Parliament at the heckoy is one of the best
political speeches I have seen in many years?
Speaker 1 (10:42):
Was it better than her? Which actually was really cool?
Speaker 2 (10:47):
Well, that was actually and if you think about politics,
politics is theater. That was actually brilliant theater that everyone
around the world watched her. But her speech to that
Hackoy was and length, absolutely perfect, brilliant manna from such
a young person.
Speaker 3 (11:05):
I loved it. Can I throw? Can I throw an
accolade out? One to just quickly Chris Luxon's end of
the year speech this year, My goodness, it was like
a comedic triumph.
Speaker 1 (11:15):
It was it was actually you go.
Speaker 3 (11:18):
If Labor was in charge of Center's workshop, the elves
will be charging consultants. The sleigh would cost four billion
dollars and the reindeer would be working from home. Pay
a speech writer, more personal pay.
Speaker 1 (11:30):
Right, guys, go well. Merry Christmas to you both, trishas.
Speaker 2 (11:33):
And Terry christ Christmas everyone.
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