Full Show Podcast: 05 October 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talks at Batid twice God once, but maybe
called Pete first. Peter wolf Camp, the Resident Builder News
Talk said, b.

Speaker 2 (00:26):
A house sizzle even when it's dark, even when the
grass is overgrown in the yard, and even when a
dog is too old to borrow, and when you're sitting
at the table trying not to start have scissor home,

(00:48):
even when we've a band ball, even when you're alone.

Speaker 3 (01:05):
House sizzle, even when those.

Speaker 2 (01:08):
Goes, even when you going around from the ones you love,
your moses.

Speaker 4 (01:15):
Screamed on broken paints.

Speaker 2 (01:16):
Appeeling from the world, locals visperable when they're going and
leaving him house, even when we run, even when you're.

Speaker 5 (01:31):
In there alone.

Speaker 6 (01:34):
Yes, I was wondering why, Well, good morning, Welcome along
to the show.

Speaker 7 (01:54):
I was in fine form. I was right into my introduction,
and then I realized I hadn't turned my microphone on
and lock my delightful producers.

Speaker 8 (02:00):
Looking at me, going mate, mate, you've got to push
the button. You've got to push the button.

Speaker 7 (02:05):
Right, We're off to a flying folks, Welcome along to
the show. My name is Pete wolf Camp. And this
is your opportunity to talk all things building and construction.
It's the rules, the regulation, it's the products, it's the
individual components that we assemble, sometimes in a haphazard fashion,
sometimes in a perfectly orchestrated procedure where everything fits together

(02:30):
beautifully and you end up with a fantastic outcome on time,
on budget, maybe even under time. This does actually happen
from time to time, by the way, but sometimes it
also goes the other way, where it seems like the
I don't know, the gods decide that you're going to
have a tough day, and nothing works quite as well
as you would have expected it, and the wheels fall

(02:52):
off and you're hurtling down with three wheels on a
four wheel trolley. Some days are like that on building site.
So if you're having one of those days and you'd
like to chat about it, then give me a call. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
You can also text, and a couple of people have
already opted to do exactly that. The text is nine
to nine two and once I remember my password, you

(03:15):
can send me an email. It's Pete at newstalksb dot co.
Dot nz so Pete p E t E at newstalksedb
dot co dot en sid. I trust you've had a
good week. It's been a funny old week.

Speaker 8 (03:27):
We otherwise.

Speaker 7 (03:27):
I was trying to dash around to a few lawns yesterday,
got caught in a downpour and then kind of, you know,
within minutes it had cleared up and ready to go.
So if you're trying to get some jobs done, particularly
if they're outdoor type jobs, it is just a tad
frustrating with the weather at the moment. But hey, longer
days are coming. We're one week into daylight saving And

(03:49):
I tell you the other thing that's actually I haven't
heard it yet, but I'm expecting to is the Christmas rush.

Speaker 8 (03:56):
Will there be one?

Speaker 7 (03:58):
You know, typically around this time of year, people are
starting to think about, oh, I can get the bathroom
done before Christmas, I can get the kitchen done before Christmas.
I can get the deck built before Christmas. I could
maybe do some landscaping before Christmas and the Christmas rush begins.
But I haven't now all the tradees that I talk to,
all the guys that sort of connect with during the week, plumbers, electricians, roofs,

(04:23):
other carpenters and so on. I haven't had that sense
of it's on its way. The Christmas rush is here,
so not necessarily a good thing. We'll see how we go.
It is, after all, only the fifth of October. But
right now it's your opportunity to call to talk about
building construction, the rules, the regulations. We often talk a
bit about things like fencing, legislation, healthy home standards. We

(04:48):
can talk about so many of the changes that are
being made to I guess the way in which we
administer the building code and building regulations. In terms of
a big article the other day about the advent of
granny you know, the granny flats, the simple standalone dwellings
that we'll be able to be built without a building consent,
without necessarily requiring a building consent. And I've seen a

(05:12):
little bit of stuff sort of in the builder sphere,
let's say, where people are already approaching their builders and
trades people to go great, can you start next week?

Speaker 8 (05:22):
No, you can't.

Speaker 7 (05:23):
Right, it's a proposal for legislation right now. It's not law.
It's certainly going to come. But right now, if you
started to build seventy square meters in your backyard without
a building consent, you'd find yourself on the wrong.

Speaker 8 (05:38):
Side of the law.

Speaker 7 (05:39):
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty. The lines are open. The
number to call, as I said, is eight hundred eighty
ten eighty and looking forward to he calls your conversations
today on the program, one of our painting experts, Bryce
McDermott from Razine, is going to join us around seven
to twenty five, so we'll take your text questions on that.
If you've got a specific question around painting, around either

(06:00):
the type of paint to use or the process. I
think more and more we're starting to the idea that
painting is a bit of a system is starting to
take hold, which is I think really important in the
sense that it's often it's not just a case of
that last coat of paint. It's what you do beforehand

(06:20):
that's also really important in getting a good paint result.
So if you've got a painting question might be about
specifics of paint, the type, which one to use, what
process to apply, which system goes well, so compatibility between
different surfaces and so on, we can talk about all
of that on the program at around seven to twenty five.

(06:40):
You can text your questions through for Bryce.

Speaker 8 (06:43):
He'll be with us at seven.

Speaker 7 (06:45):
Five radio lines are open. I'll come back with a
couple of texts, including this charmer.

Speaker 8 (06:49):
This is great.

Speaker 7 (06:50):
Actually, Pete, I don't have a garden area. Is it
practical to make a new house roof into a deck
outdoor living space? From Phil, We've done it. So i'll
tell you about that after the break back in a mo.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
Doing other house, extorting the garden last feet for a hand.

Speaker 4 (07:05):
It's as build with feeder, wolfcab call eight dogs V.

Speaker 7 (07:13):
Your news dogs dB. It's it's open line on all
things building and construction. So if you've got a question,
well I think I've probably got the answer. We'll have
a crack anyway, let's see how we go. Oh eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
That text just before the break Pete, I don't have
a garden area. Is it practical to make a new
house roof into a deck outdoor living space? From Phil? Yes,

(07:36):
you can do it. It's it's obviously considerably more involved,
ie complex and costly than having a conventional roof.

Speaker 8 (07:47):
Right, So gee, it's going back a few years now.

Speaker 7 (07:52):
I'd be seven eight years ago four of the blockhouses
were three story townhouses, and each of them had access
up onto the roof space, and we had a space
of probably about forty square meters maybe even a bit
more that was fully properly waterproofed e with a TPO
membrane with fall and then with either decking or gardens

(08:15):
on them. So yes, it is doable, but you know
you need to have that featured in as part of
your design. Obviously, if you're then able to be up
there walking around, you've also got to have some sort
of handrail or balustrade that prevents falling, and then you've
also got to have something that's maintainable. But at the

(08:38):
various home shows that I go to, there's a couple
of companies that have started to come up with quite
sort of innovative solutions for like rooftop gardens. In some
cases it's for stormwater management, so rather than having all
of your stormwater be collected onto a hard surface and
directed to the public stormwater line, you can direct it

(09:01):
onto vegetation basically gardens, which kind of absorbs part of it,
slows the rate down, actually helps clean the water up
a little bit, and then a certain amount is discharged out.
So there's and there's some really clever solutions for that
out there as well. So yes, it is doable, but
you know, please don't underestimate the cost and the complexity
of doing it. But hey, look in an urban environment,

(09:24):
it's it could be a really creative, sensible solution, and
you know, but it's got to be maintainable.

Speaker 8 (09:30):
That I think that's the biggest challenge.

Speaker 7 (09:32):
Oh eight, one hundred eighty eighty. The number to call
Hello Linda. It was Hello, Hello, Linda. How are you good?

Speaker 9 (09:41):
Can I put the phone on to speaker phone or
could you not?

Speaker 7 (09:45):
I'm sure that's fine?

Speaker 9 (09:47):
Okay, thank you? Are you there?

Speaker 8 (09:49):
Absolutely?

Speaker 9 (09:51):
Yes? Realm up. About a driveway that was It was
a driveway along the length of my property. It was
cold creatured about could be three or four years ago. Now,
before that, I had no seepage. And then the way

(10:13):
they concreted it, they put like a boxed edge along
it on their side. The water sort of dripped through
a board and down into that and then goes down
and comes out on the lowest part, which is on
my property. Now, I did get the counsel in and
they says it's a civil matter because it's not a

(10:34):
legal driveway, and that if I didn't fix it, they
would put it on my limb report my properity. And
I thought, I've heard this before on your program, and
I thought, I'm going to ring one now. But this

(10:57):
rain has been awful and my oil is sort of
dropping away. It's dropping, it's low, it's flat, it's flat
for now than ever. Sure, it's Sultan wet. And when
my daughter was doing some guarding for me two or
three weeks ago, she said, no, it's all wet all

(11:20):
around there. But I was very intimidated by by them,
by the council. They were very good. They came and
they checked everything out, but they said it is a
civil measure.

Speaker 8 (11:36):
Okay.

Speaker 7 (11:37):
A couple of things to address. One is I think
there is there are clear requirements in the Property Act, right,
so this is legislation that governs how we how we
deal with property issues. That it's very clear that you
can't do something that causes a nuisance to your neighbor, right,

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So directing stormwater to a neighbor could be considered a nuisance.
And it sounds like whoever put the driveway in place
didn't There's other parts of law as well in terms
of the driveway. If you're doing a large area like that,
you have to be able to control and contain the
storm water for discharge. So almost all of the driveways

(12:24):
that I've either had done or been involved with in
the last few years, we're always doing like a curb
or a swale, or forming the driveway in such a
way that the water that falls on the driveway is collected,
controlled and discharged a stormwater. So if you've got a
long driveway and the slope is towards your property and

(12:46):
there's not a curb or a channel or something like that,
then I think that the way that they built it
is wrong. Council are quite right in saying it is
a civil matter. They don't want to intervene, in which case,
for you, your next step is probably I take it
you've been to the neighbor to say, hey, I think
we've got a problem here.

Speaker 9 (13:07):
We've had water problems on the driveway, and a day
actually told the council what I understood. That's it's not
a driveway.

Speaker 8 (13:21):
How is it not a driveway?

Speaker 9 (13:23):
No, it's right away, but they use it as a driveway.
They've had it. It's being concreted. I think it was
concreted about the time they brought it right.

Speaker 7 (13:36):
I mean, look, we could call it a runway for UFOs,
it doesn't really matter. I think it's just the sheer
fact that it's a large, impermeable surface of which they're
from which there is no stormwater control. So I'm guessing
going to the neighbor and saying, hey, we've got a problem,
can you fix it? There's probably not going to get

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you where you need to be, in which case your
only redress is going to be to get a lawyer.
A lawyer could then contact the neighbor, explain their responsibilities
under the Property Act and see if they get some action.
If they don't get some action, I guess you can
go further and through the courts enforce something.

Speaker 9 (14:22):
But you know enough to spect the husband and wife
together two days ago, and he has unhopeful that are
being a little bit more forceful about something that had
to be done. Yes, they're going to look at it,
but they've got the counsel coming up again, and I

(14:45):
know they're going to say the same thing to me,
it's my responsibility unless they will put it on my limb.
Why should it go on my OD.

Speaker 7 (14:52):
It's just to be clear there. I don't think counsel
are saying it's your responsibility because obviously it isn't. It's
not your property and it's not your driveway or UFO
landing site. But the reason that they're will be something
on the It won't actually go on the limb either.
It might go into the Property Information Memorandum or the PIM.

(15:14):
So if there's what happens with the PIM is the
PIM has all of the information about the property, all
of the correspondents and that sort of thing. So if
council become involved in this dispute, they will note and
attach a file to your Property Information Memorandum saying we
have investigated stom Water and we have been told that

(15:37):
there is issues with you know, sodden ground and so
on and so forth. So yes, it will go on
your PIM potentially, which might might scare some people off
later on if you eventually come to sell the property
or something like that. But it's just a record of
correspondents regarding the property. So I think you know great

(16:00):
that the neighbor has responded and these things can be solved.
It might be a case of boxing up a a
nib on the side of the driveway that captures the water,
stops at sheeting sideways off the edge of the driveway
towards your property, or but then they've got to then
control it and direct it into storm water, rather than.

Speaker 9 (16:19):
They have got a piece of timber running down right
when the count and then beside that there's another piece
of the fence and another piece of timber. But the
council said, that's not going to stop the water because
it's running towards that piece of timber. It'll seet through that,

(16:41):
then down and created little ditch that I've made, and
then down to my yes, my lattest point.

Speaker 7 (16:51):
I think it's great that you've been able to have
a conversation because often these things, you know, a neighbor
will just go sot off, it's not my problem sort
of thing. So if if they're prepared to engage, and
then I guess what you would want to say is, look,
can we get someone independent to check that what you're
suggesting as a solution is actually going to work, because

(17:13):
you know, for example, having the edge of the driveway
with a bit of timber there that's going to move
and water is going to seep down through there, so
it's got to be properly bonded and it's you know,
it's going to make sure it's going to capture all
of the water and stay serviceable for a long period
of time. So please let us know how you get on.
I know that you know those sorts of discussions with
neighbors and are never easy, but hopefully there'll be a resolution.

(17:37):
But you know, you do have rights and it's important
that your rights are respected looked after. So good luck
to you on that one. Linda. It is six twenty
seven here at Newstalk s f B. If you've got
a question of a building nature, oh eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call quick
text as well. Before the break unconsented two meter high
deck requiring a CoA, so a certificate of acceptance in Auckland.

(18:01):
Where do I start in order to determine what remediation
work is needed? I think basically you're straight off to
the building surveys, right, So you've got to find someone
who's a registered building survey You can find them at
the on the n z IBS website. So that's new
Zealand's due to building surveys or building surveys dot co

(18:24):
dot z, dot org dot inz. They'll come out. They'll
determine how compliant the deck is in terms of, you know,
is it the right piles, is it the right centers
for the bracing, does it have the right fixings, is
the embedment correct? Does it have a compliant handrail? And

(18:46):
then they might be able to tell you if it's
not compliant, they'll be able to give you an indication
of what's required to make it compliant. Then you could
get that work done. Then they'll issue a statement saying
the work is being done according with the building code
and then you could use that as evidence to go
to the Council Inspector and apply for for a CoA.

(19:08):
That's the process, and if you're going, gee, that sounds
like a lot of hard work, I'm going to restrain
myself from saying that's why you should have got a
build or someone should have got a building consent in
the first place, and whoever built it would have known
that it needed a building consent because it's pretty common
knowledge that anything over one point five meters requires a

(19:30):
building consent. So that's what you end up with unfortunately,
so good luck with that. But I think you will
need to engage a building surveyor for that work. It
is six twenty nine here at NEWSTALKSB. If you've got
a question, fire it through on the text if you wish,
or better still, give me a call because we've got
a spare line. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty call me.

Speaker 1 (19:48):
Now, whether you're paty with ceiling, fixing with fans or
wondering how to fix that hole in the wall, give
Peter wolf Cap call on eight hundred eighty, the resident
builder on Youth DOGSB.

Speaker 7 (20:00):
Right six thirty two quick text as well, Hey, you
know your last unfortunate caller is going to get told
to get low by the neighbor and the council will
do nothing. From Paul, I think that I'm slightly more
optimistic than you might be, not naive to human nature,
and I think often these sorts of discussions disputes end
up with a standoff. Right, But if at this stage

(20:23):
the neighbor has indicated that they're prepared to engage, that's great.
You know, possibly the neighbor was not aware that it
was causing a problem. If they're not particularly technical or
anything like that, and so on, And in terms of
council doing nothing, I kind of feel that it's not
something that we want counsel to be involved with anyway, unless,

(20:49):
of course, the work that driveway was done as part
of work that required a building consent or resource consent,
in which case it should be checked by a council
inspector to ensure that it's as per the plans and
its compliant. And if the plans clearly stated, for example,

(21:10):
that there was a curb or a swale or a
berm or something like that to contain and control stormwater,
and that wasn't done, then it should fail its final inspection,
or it should fail sign off from the resource consents people. Actually,
that was a story that was in the paper this week,
a whole collection of townhouses that were sold with basically

(21:35):
you know, unfinished exteriors, right, no decks, no landscaping, maybe
not even some fences, but seemingly they were sold and
so people bought those properties, then did their own decking,
did their own landscaping and so on, and then found
that they were in breach of the resource consent conditions.

(21:58):
I found the whole thing slightly not slightly actually extremely
unusual in the sense that a lawyer would allow conveyancing
or a property settlement on a property, a new build
that didn't have its final sign off, And how would
the lawyers not have picked up on that. I'm not

(22:19):
suggesting it's only the lawyer's fault. I mean the developer
has obviously been a bit to be blunt dubious in
terms of their behavior. But you know, for the people
who have been the homeowners have now done some stuff
not knowing that there were resource consent conditions around maybe
site coverage or proximity to boundary and so on, and

(22:40):
now finding that that work.

Speaker 8 (22:41):
Is non compliant.

Speaker 7 (22:42):
But somewhere along the line there's something spidery senses would say,
there's something going on there. Oh eight one hundred eighty
ten eighty, let's rip into it. Very good morning to you, Kirsty.

Speaker 10 (22:55):
Good morning.

Speaker 7 (22:57):
Let me Christy.

Speaker 10 (22:58):
A yeah it is, it's actually Kirstin. But everybody gets
that wrong, so I say it stay of Kirsty. But
many years ago, you had a competition for a kitchen
aid mixers or something, and I won a vegetable pill.
I won a compensation prize of vegetable pilla and.

Speaker 4 (23:15):
Oh my god, I'm still going, well, well have it.

Speaker 10 (23:17):
It's the best thing I've ever ever had.

Speaker 4 (23:20):
I wanted you to know that that's awesome.

Speaker 7 (23:22):
I know that's really cool because I keep bumping into
the kitchen aid people.

Speaker 3 (23:29):
So good.

Speaker 7 (23:29):
Yeah they are. It's also but there's also that real
delight and I've got it with tools, for example, Right,
if I pick up a tool that I really like,
that's that's a good quality, and I've had it for years,
there is a great delight in using it. And in
the same way, if you've got a favorite knife or
a peeler or something like that, then.

Speaker 10 (23:50):
I've never really had favorites or anything like that. But
when they arrived, I'm like, oh, so easy, And like
probably five or six years later, it's still going town strong.
I'm like, wow, this is so cool. I wanted to
let you.

Speaker 7 (24:01):
Know that that's wonderful.

Speaker 11 (24:03):
How can I help, Well, I've put a bath or
just a minute and decided to give me a croaky throat.
I've just bought my rental. We had a rental with
a right to purchase this, Yes, and we got it.

Speaker 10 (24:16):
Yeah, Well we're lucky. I'm a first time owner at
fifty three and we managed to get we've got it
really reasonable as part of the agreement. That was a
friend doing us a favorite kind of thing. But throughout
the rental there was a bit of leakage in the
bathroom coming out from under the bath you know how
you have the the there must be a pipe that

(24:38):
comes through from the.

Speaker 4 (24:39):
Plug, and the pipe had moved, yes.

Speaker 10 (24:41):
And it's been facts. That's not a problem, but she
wasn't able to get it afford to get anything fixed.
We were walking on would you believe the build I
don't know why they did this, and it's it's consented
and everything, but it's a concrete pad and they had
it the joists, you know, just little bits of wood,
and they put down for flooring what appeared to be.

Speaker 7 (25:00):
Chipboard, not uncommon back in the day.

Speaker 10 (25:03):
Unbelievable, though unbelievable. So we were walking on bouncy floors
and eventually broken floors. So my son I had enough
of it. We didn't care about it aesthetically. A landlady
wasn't going to sort it. So what he did was
we got some packing case from a local joinery company.
And it's about it. I think it's about an inch thick,

(25:25):
and we just literally had to rip up the floor.
And now the thing is, the bath and the shower
above it are on the side wall fully you know,
laminated in then tiled in. The bath is completely tiled,
and so it's like a bottom part of a wall,
and then the flooring is separate. Now, what my son
did is he did leave a small gap open just

(25:47):
by the bath to make sure everything totally dried out.
He says, I don't want you know, he said, just
in case it's still got moisture. Because he'd worked in
flood and fire technician roles, and he said, I'm just
going to leave this but just to give it a
bit of moisture, you know, removal. And so we just
we've got a it's not a the way it's in
a corner between the vanity and a bath, right, it's

(26:08):
not going to be an issue, but we need to
ultimately replace this with normal flawing. And I did have
someone who was a builder that came in and said, look,
because the vanity won't need replacing. It's only little, but
that's rotten at the bottom. It's it draws. And so
in the farthest corner away from the bath where there
was no damage is the toilet, but of course because
the floor has been moving a bit, it's moving a little,

(26:30):
so we want to be able to replace this. And
a builder has said to me, actually, I think you're
going to get away without doing the whole bathroom. If
you wish, you will probably be able to rip everything up,
leave the bath as is and just put down new flooring.
So we can probably need timber for more joye and
some sort of flawing. And I just wanted to get

(26:51):
your revice because I've been told on the reply. And
then someone else said to me, no, marineply is not
made for that. It won't be good enough. So he
you know, the materials won't be expensive. And he thinks
about that's been out sixteen hours labor maybe okay, he said,
I thought that was quite high, but he said a

(27:11):
couple of days. But I do also have a friend
who is quite handy man downe building and stuff. And
he said, well, he could come in and do the labor,
but he wants to have a plumber there ready and
ready to go, et cetera, et cetera. So I just
want to know what to do with it.

Speaker 12 (27:24):
It's a very poor bathroom, okay at all.

Speaker 7 (27:27):
Essentially what you've got is particle board over joists and
then you said it's on a concrete slab below there.

Speaker 10 (27:34):
That doesn't yees, so that the foundation is a concrete
it appears to be. It appears to be an addition.
It's a very very old house nineteen hundred and three.
It's not what I would call split level, but you
do come down from the bedrooms onto a one tiny
set to a landing and then two steps down to
the left and two steps to the right. Close and
as you go through from the front lawn through a

(27:56):
gate to the section that is gently sort of elevated, so.

Speaker 4 (28:01):
It gotten down.

Speaker 10 (28:02):
So that's what the dad explains the steps. So that
USOM is on the lower part, and we do think
it is an addition. It's not part of the original.
Hence why that whole what i'm part of the house
is concrete foundations as opposed to piles.

Speaker 7 (28:15):
Okay, So either way, you've got some joys there which
are in reasonable condition. You've got the particle board, which
not surprisingly over time with a bit of moisture, has
turned into weak pics. So you're going to pull that
out and you're going to replace it. That's how we
talk about it all the time on site.

Speaker 4 (28:31):
But we were lucky.

Speaker 10 (28:32):
We were lucky that we had enough joys that weren't
damaged and they were okay. And it's hilarious. People would
laugh at me because basically he ripped up the lino
and he just he just did a patch job for
us because we needed it, and he nailed this. It's
about an interesting I think they call it, you know,
and then nailed here.

Speaker 8 (28:52):
We go, here we go, here to go, here we go.

Speaker 7 (28:54):
Right, So you're going to pull up the old particle board,
You're going to nail down some new flooring. What type
of finish do you want on top?

Speaker 10 (29:03):
I'm not worried. I'm not worried.

Speaker 12 (29:04):
You're going to.

Speaker 10 (29:06):
Probably a lino. It'll probably the cheapest they are going
for budget.

Speaker 7 (29:10):
Then the most straightforward solution is probably going to be
to get some treated flooring ply, so it'll be h
three point two treated ply. Fix that down with some
stainless steel fixings, and then you could probably do your
lino straight over the top. If you said to me
that you wanted to tile, then maybe you could use
a fiber cement sheet a flooring sheet there, same process

(29:31):
and then you can tile directly over to that. But
if it's Lino, which is a nice simple yeah, Lino's
great in the bathroom, to be fair. And for something
like that, you can go to the edges seal it
and its job done. So I wish you all the
very best with that case. And thanks for telling us
about the kitchen. Know that's a consolation prize that turned

(29:53):
out to be a real pearler.

Speaker 8 (29:54):
That's awesome.

Speaker 7 (29:54):
Thank you and all the very best. Martin. Good morning
to you. Martin.

Speaker 10 (30:01):
You need a cup of tea after that one.

Speaker 7 (30:03):
Now I'm doing all right, mate, I've got a coffee.
I'm all good.

Speaker 10 (30:07):
A product to removed a sealand and a shower to
it's Roldy.

Speaker 13 (30:12):
We need to put a new lot in. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (30:15):
I grab some stuff the other day which is by
Pseudal so s O U D A L. And it's
either the Pseudale brand or it's a Gorilla brand. And
it's basically a silicon dissolver, so it's like a it's
an aerosol spray. And what I do is there's also
quite a nifty little plastic tool for removing silicon. So

(30:37):
it's got like a flat scraper at one end and
a basically a V shaped scraper at the other end.
And what I do is I go through and I
cut out the bulk of the silicon using that tool,
or you can do a sharp knife, but this tool
is actually they're about twenty bucks, but I found it
quite useful. Little red tooling by the hardware stores. Get

(30:59):
the bulk of it out, and then I spray that
silicon remover dissolver over the top of it. Wait for
a little while and then you'll find that it just
softens it. And again using that tool or you know,
another little scraper, you can remove most of that. I
think then it pays to let that area dry completely,
because what you don't want to do is RUSSI into

(31:20):
putting new silicon in an area where you've just put
silicon remover, because it's going to impact on it. So
maybe with some other cleaner, let it dry thoroughly and
then replace the silicon. So and look, I've only when
did I buy that. It was the beginning of the
year that I had a job similar to that. You know,
some moldy silicon between the vanity and the tiled upstand

(31:44):
and it worked really well in terms of getting rid
of that silicon.

Speaker 13 (31:49):
Okay, and what sort of silicon be.

Speaker 7 (31:53):
Oh look, I'm always looking for something that's got, you know,
some sort of mold resistant element to it. Yeah, maybe
get some advice from the store where you're going, or
go to like a plumber's merchant or a tiling shop
and get their you know, sort of quality sealants, because

(32:16):
we all know that you can buy some sealants off
the shelf that just they seem to have put the
mold in them and you know, with you know what
I mean, it's like pre loaded with mold. But there
are some better ones out there now, Okay, alright, all
the best, take.

Speaker 8 (32:31):
Care, see buddy.

Speaker 7 (32:33):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call?
I need to take a break. I've got the locks
given me that look, you know that look it's like,
come on mate, got.

Speaker 8 (32:42):
To take a break.

Speaker 7 (32:43):
All right, let's do that. It is six forty five
back in a moment.

Speaker 1 (32:46):
Squeaky door or squeaky floor, get the right advice from
Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder on News Talks by.

Speaker 7 (32:54):
News Talks, heb welcome back to the show. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Hello Alex,
good morning, good morning. Nice to have you with us.

Speaker 14 (33:06):
My wife class away, my daughter and son, and my
daughter and god and all son come back from Australia.
They bought a house. Yep, so that was all right.
This house they would never sell in the wintertime. I'll
tell you that, I don't know if I'm going to
explain the properly. They've got a deck and a bit
of a bit of a courtyard. Every time it rains,
it floods. The water goes nowhere. It's about four or

(33:30):
five inches deep, and there of the three meters by
about six meters. Yep, it's got a crackdown, it's got
a it's got a little drain down the middle on
each side, right down the middle of these two of
these slabs, and it's full of stones. I went up

(33:50):
there or six months ago and I dug it up
and I found some soca, some soca draining.

Speaker 12 (33:59):
Yes, the water's not.

Speaker 14 (34:01):
Going away, just sits there and sits there and just
steeps away. Now, when they sold this house, should have
all us been explain that it floods, and the contact
when they were selling the house that we do get
a bit of water here or not, or just keep
it in themself.

Speaker 12 (34:13):
Hush huh.

Speaker 7 (34:14):
Yeah, I understand what you're saying. It is a really
good question. And you know, if you had to said
they bought the house ten years ago, then you.

Speaker 14 (34:21):
Know they didn't buy or out ten years ago.

Speaker 12 (34:24):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (34:25):
So typically, and this is more around the let's say,
the behavior of the real estate agent and the disclosure
from the property owner. So typically a real estate agent
will ask a property owner, are there any issues with
the property. Now, the property owner can choose to kind

(34:47):
of lie and say no, dry as a bone, great
property never had an issue, right knowing full well that
every time it rains that area floods, and possibly the
real estate agent isn't there on a day when it's
raining and didn't see it flooding, and so has no
reason to disbelieve the person. But in in that instance,
you could possibly go back to them and say, were

(35:10):
you aware of this? Surely you must have been, because
nothing has changed, we haven't done anything to cause the flooding. Therefore,
the flooding was there beforehand. So yes, you could possibly
do that. But I'm guessing that for the time and
energy that that's going to take, and the legal fees
involved and all the rest of it, You're probably better
off just coming up with a solution. So the big

(35:32):
question is is there some nearby storm water that is
at the same level or lower than that area of
the patio?

Speaker 14 (35:41):
Yeah, there is there is one. There's one aboutdoor outdoor
a meet and a half two meters about to the
center of this of this some whole sort of thing
with all the water cities. Okay, some's got a mate
having a look at it. I'm just I'm just grib

(36:02):
you about. I'm more ribed about it than my son. Yeah,
he's got got a plumber made, he's going to he's
having a look at it. But all I really wanted
the motion. Have all these things been disclosed when people
buy houses?

Speaker 12 (36:14):
Yeah, and it looks like you said they can be
honest as I'm not honest. Yeah.

Speaker 7 (36:19):
Earlier in the year, we actually had a guy called
Wayne maguire, right, who's a real estate agent. I've known
him for a number of years, and I got him
to come in here to talk about exactly this, that
whole duty to disclose and so on. And it would
seem that, you know, I suppose depending on which real
estate agent or which company you happen to work for.
They've they've got very very good, robust procedures for finding

(36:45):
out about the property to ensure that as as the
person handling the sale, they've got as much information as
they can possibly find out they can and it's full disclosure. Hey,
this is what we think might be a problem or
is a problem, and so on and so forth. And
you know, that's what you would expect these days with
a as part of a sale and purchase agreement or

(37:07):
in terms of the professional behavior of the real estate agent.
But that might not have happened, in which case, you know,
you could look into it. You could go to the
real estate Institute. They've got their own sort of disciplinary
investigation type body that's there. You could certainly look at that.
But the good thing is if there is some stormwater nearby,

(37:27):
then you know, simply ripping out that drain or opening
it up, ensuring that it goes to a catch pit,
that there's a half siphon on the catch pit and
it discharges into council stormwater or into the private line,
and you know it's a fix. Right, So the good
news is there is a fix if they want to
try and get some redress from the previous owners. People

(37:49):
have been successful in doing that recently. I've read a
number of cases where people have said, hey, look, you
know you really did know about this, but you didn't
disclose it, and I'm going to seek some costs. So
that's an option. But I think most the good news
is there is a fix and hopefully you can get
it's so.

Speaker 8 (38:07):
That'd be great.

Speaker 7 (38:08):
Thanks for that, Matan, Good on you for looking after
your boy. Owen greet things. Good morning, Pat morning, sir.

Speaker 5 (38:15):
I'm hoping you can hear me your I've got you
on speakerphone so I can bring up for my nephew.
For my nephew who asked me a question that had
me scratching my head, but I thought you were one
of your listeners and callers may have the answer. Extense
thank you. Essentially, he's asking for, in my words, if

(38:36):
there is a cheap or people free and relatively easy
to use CAD type software where that he wants to.
He's a clever blow but he's not being involved in
this sort of home hand him and stuff or design
or whatever. But he can turn his hand to stuff
because it's intelligent guy and he wants to visualize and

(38:57):
plan a project sort of for his yard of the house.

Speaker 15 (39:00):
Yes, bought for once I shed fire pit, garden, growing
structure with you plan. And he wants to have like
a you know, like a storage shed that he might
hang a travelers off the back and tool cave man
cave sort of thing and buy it storage and et cetera.
But so what he wants to do is be to.

Speaker 5 (39:23):
Just sort of design planet, visualize it and then extract
measurements from it. I know a very complex, super expensive,
hard to use software that takes years of training, but
it's basically at lower level with what we're asking about.
Then there's nothing like a recommendation.

Speaker 12 (39:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (39:41):
Sure, Look it's not my strong suit. I've for whatever reason,
never kind of adopted that I probably should, and I
would probably in the next few years find it quite useful.
But there are some out there, and certainly I know
like a number of builders that I know will use
it quite readily. Not so much because they're telling architects

(40:04):
and architectural designers what to do. It's just it's quite
handy to be able to generate your own CAD drawings
for the guys on site or part of you know,
figuring out how to finish a project and that sort
of thing. So it's not my strong suit. I don't
use any of them. Unfortunately I did at one stage
couple of years ago look at sketch up, which seems

(40:26):
to be quite well known and quite well regarded. So
sketch up is one of them. But I tell you
what I'll do, because we're running into the news. If
people want to text through their suggestions for programs that
they might use, I'll just read them out as they
come in. So just stay listening for a little while.
And if you're someone who uses one of these drafting

(40:46):
or CAD type programs, but it's a let's say, an
entry level one, one that I might even be able
to understand, then feel free to just flick through the
name via the text, which is nine two nine two,
and I'll read those out because to be fair, it
is I recognize it's a bit of a weak spot
for me, and I should probably learn to use one
as well. We are back, oh now, remember Bryce after

(41:09):
the news as well about seven twenty five, text me
your painting questions back, so.

Speaker 1 (41:14):
Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The Resident
Builder with Peter Wolfcat call. Oh eight, talks'd.

Speaker 7 (41:22):
Be yeah, a news talks. It'd be good morning, welcome
to back to or welcome to the show seven o'clock.
As you're sort of joining our as opposed to joining
us at six. We don't mind as long as you're
out there. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. We're talking all things building construction.
So we talked driveways, We've talked rotten floors, we've talked
removing silicon. By the way, the one that I picked

(41:45):
up the other day was it as Sudull as the
overall brand, but it's it's Gorilla selant removal spray, so
I think there's like a gel. I used the spray,
used it on the vanity. Went and checked a property
the other day and notice the water was just pouring

(42:06):
out of the shower enclosure right, So wondered why parts
of the plaster board had started to decay outside the shower.
This is a standard sort of you know, plastic shower liner,
aluminium doors, blah blah blah, And I don't know whoever
fixed it in the first place didn't do a great
job anyway, Turn the shower on direct it to the

(42:28):
corner water just pause out the other side, went back,
got some of this pseud old gorilla sealant remover, sprayed
that on, pulled out the old silicon, got some new silicon.

Speaker 8 (42:39):
Put that in.

Speaker 7 (42:41):
So far, so good, basically, so yeah, it is. It
is quite useful. There you go. When I did the
old Google search, might have ten's got it simple as right, yoh,
it is eight minutes half to seven. Remember, in about
fifteen twenty minutes, we've got Bryce McDermott, our painting expert
from the good people at Razine. He's going to join
me live on the show. If you've got any painting questions,

(43:03):
and we're getting a few of them through so far,
then it's nine to nine two send through your specific
painting questions and we'll do that with Bryce from Razine.
Then not that far, not that long way. A couple
of people have text and thank you with regard to
a CAD program that's kind of accessible for beginners. So

(43:24):
like if I could use it, then pretty much anyone could.
That's that's the threshold. So a couple of people have
text through. I use a drawing app called Magic Plan.
It's useful for creating floor plans, and it has a
three D capacity. There's a free view version and then
subscription versions that are slightly more useful, which is as

(43:46):
as you would expect. So that's Magic Plan. Someone else's
text through sketch Up is my advice. They're an LBP
design three but they still use it for quick presentation.
So there's a obviously you're very familiar with some sort
of CAD program for your designs, but you're still using SketchUp,
which is interesting. And then.

Speaker 8 (44:10):
Blender.

Speaker 7 (44:11):
There you go a free three D program called Blender,
which can be downloaded from the internet. Just search for
Blender three D. You might have a look at that
as well. So thank you to those people that text
that through. That's super useful and I sort of recognized
for myself it's a gap in my knowledge or utility.

(44:34):
It's a tool that I don't have in my toolbox,
so to speak. I should probably do something about that. Calvin, Greetings,
and good morning. This is all going, but there you go, gotcha. Calvin, Hello, yes,
good morning, good morning. Indeed, thank you.

Speaker 12 (44:52):
That's fine. Stripping wallpaper off. The house.

Speaker 16 (44:58):
Had an area under a window. There was a desk
up against it couldn't notice any black spots or anything
on the wallpaper. When we took the wallpaper off, the
wall is sprinkled in black. Yes, that's the easiest way
to describe it to you. And the wall feels quite somber,

(45:19):
and I bang it.

Speaker 12 (45:20):
With my fists.

Speaker 16 (45:23):
But for the for the black to be there, there
there must be a leak under the window or something.
I'm presuming yes, And it's quite sprinkled. It's sprinkled across
a section of about a meat I suppose met there

(45:46):
twelve hundred. And if I take the glass, I've had
rectrofit double glazing feather right.

Speaker 12 (45:55):
If I take the window.

Speaker 10 (45:57):
Out, the glass out.

Speaker 16 (45:59):
Sorry, I can do that work myself and sell the
drain that's in the in the window frame. When they
put the retrofit in the bottom molding, has they've milled
drains in. It's a it's a ninety house built. Would

(46:19):
that suffice two? Well, that should stop the leak. But
I was just concerned little a bit about in the
wall itself, what could be what would happen to the
wood in there? Because it won't be borow sorry, canalyzed,
I wouldn't think, because it will just be ordinary framing

(46:44):
in there, whether there's if the war board comes up,
whether it's a product that could be painted on the
wood or something like that. I was just looking for
suggestions from you that you may have encountered this problem.

Speaker 7 (47:02):
Yeah, the impression that I'm forming is that it's a
little bit like what's that game Whack a mole type
thing where you know you knock one so you know,
you knock something down, something else pops up.

Speaker 12 (47:16):
Right.

Speaker 7 (47:16):
So the reason I raised that is that you know,
in that environment there could be a combination of things
that's causing.

Speaker 8 (47:24):
The mold growth.

Speaker 7 (47:25):
Right, So the mold growth is the what you can
see that says, hey, something's not working in this system. Well,
so I'd be very reluctant to say that you should
seal up any drainage holes because those drainage holes are
there for a reason, and they allow condensation or moisture
to be directed that collects around the frame to be

(47:48):
ideally directed to outside. Now, what might be happening is
instead of that condensation or the moisture that collects on
the inside of the joinery being able to be directed
to outside, it's actually because of the way it was
installed or the way it was flashed or whatever, it
might actually be be directed into the building envelope, into

(48:08):
the actual walls. So if that was the case, this
and the other thing is like, especially with double glazed units,
it's really important that there's drainage at the bottom of
the double glazed units. It's typically not that much of
an issue with aluminium joinery, but certainly if you're doing
a retrofit into timber joinery and you don't have some

(48:32):
provision for drainage at the bottom, and water gets trapped
at the bottom of the DG unit, it's likely to
cause some sort of failure.

Speaker 4 (48:40):
Right.

Speaker 7 (48:40):
So again, I'd be really reluctant to say you should
seal up any of that drainage holes. But what would
be interesting is to actually tip some water into that
channel and see where it goes. Right, So if you
tip it in and then you find that it's exiting
on the exterior of the building, then the drainage is
doing what it should do, and leave that alone. That's great.

(49:04):
If you tip some in and you that it's going
through the frame, but you don't see it going to
the exterior, then it's an issue with how the window
was installed and you might actually need to remove the window,
redo the flashings, and then replace the entire window.

Speaker 8 (49:19):
Which could be quite a big job.

Speaker 7 (49:21):
The other thing is, you know, have a look on
the outside and make sure that you've got adequate coverage
of the cladding over the bottom plate so that you're
not getting water that's actually coming in there, that your
levels outside are not too high causing water to sit
around at the bottom of the cladding and around the

(49:43):
bottom plate and being drawn into the building via a
capillary action. And then I was going to say it
might be an issue in terms of the build up
of the wall and maybe no insulation, but if we're
talking a nineties build, I'm going to assume that there's
insulation in that wall cavity. It's yes, but I think
you need to look at all of those different elements.

(50:05):
So there's the drainage from the joinery, there's the flashing
detail around the window, there's a close inspection of the
cladding detail on the exterior, and these issues with the
ground level. And then because what you might find, hence
my reference to sort of whack a mole, you know,
you go, ah, there's my problem. I'm going to hit
that one and find that, in fact, the problem was

(50:27):
something else because it's a complex environment, right, There's a
lot of things going on in that space, so you know,
and if that's something that you feel confident doing, great,
If not, I'd get either a joinery guy or a
suitable experienced LBP to come have a look and decide
what it is that's contributing to that moisture ingress and
to that mold growth. So it's not an answer, it's

(50:51):
just a series of other more questions to ask.

Speaker 16 (50:54):
Yeah, you know, the the window is up on the wall,
so there's and it looks really good or flashing around
the Yeah.

Speaker 12 (51:02):
Sure, it's a a little bit of a mystery.

Speaker 7 (51:08):
What you're saying, And I tell you what. The other thing,
the other thing that it may well be is that,
you know, if you've got an environment, you know, let's say,
prior to the addition of the double glazing, right, you
would have condensation on the inside of that window in
many cases, and even with the double glazing, which is good,

(51:30):
if you've got standard aluminium joinery, you might still get
some condensation on the actual joinery. So and the other
thing is if you've had a piece of furniture or
a dresser up against a wall and it's trapped. It
might just be the simple fact that you've had something
up against the wall for a long period of time.

Speaker 8 (51:50):
That's meant that there's.

Speaker 7 (51:53):
Moisture kind of gets trapped in that environment, doesn't dry out.
It might just be that, in which case, if you
don't place I've seen, you know, some research and some
evidence that goes you know, don't I mean we all
put if you've got a dress or a set of drawers,
or a tall boil or whatever, we tend to jam
them against the wall. Well, if they stay there for
years and years and years, potentially you create an environment

(52:16):
where moisture is trapped there where there's not a lot
of ventilation, and that that combined with the overall moisture
in the room, might be enough to create an environment
where mold growth occurs because you're seeing it on the
inside surface, right, So it might be internal moisture rather
than external moisture.

Speaker 12 (52:35):
Right, I was wondering about So there's yep, whether that
where that becomes like gloving paper.

Speaker 7 (52:47):
Where But then you know, it's really determining where the
source of that moisture is, and it might be internal moisture.
It might be external and it may just be a
lack of sort of ventilation by having something hard up
against the wall for an extended period of time. And
because what you're saying is that only in that area
where there was that item of furniture you've noticed the

(53:08):
mold growth. Yes, so that might also be part of it.
Good luck with the investigations, and actually I kind of
love to know how you get on with that. And also,
of course, obviously Calvin in terms of preparing it, you know,
make sure you treat that mold, let it dry out really,
really thoroughly before you do any painting over the top.
Talking about painting, we'll get Bryce McDermott on feely soon.

(53:29):
We'll take a short break. We'll talk to Diane. Then
we've got Bryce. If you've got any painting questions, text
them through to me now nine to nine two.

Speaker 1 (53:38):
Twice God was but maybe called Pete first, vid your
work care for the Resident Builder News Talks.

Speaker 4 (53:44):
They'd be right.

Speaker 7 (53:46):
We've got Bryce on standby. But before that, quickly, Diane,
good morning to you.

Speaker 3 (53:52):
Good morning. I'm only a quick quick question. I want
to put new vinyl on the floor and the laundry
and the laundry term. When I look inside, it's got bowl.

Speaker 10 (54:08):
On each corner.

Speaker 3 (54:09):
Now you can't put vinyl over that because you'd have
holes in it.

Speaker 9 (54:15):
So you're all new.

Speaker 3 (54:19):
The new tubs has to be bolted down as well.

Speaker 7 (54:24):
Is it one of those sort of it's a pressed
metal tub with like a door on it, you know
it's it's it's.

Speaker 10 (54:31):
Such a cupboard, yeah.

Speaker 7 (54:33):
And then a stale steel tray at the top, and
then the fittings and you can connect to your washing
machine to it and those sorts of things. Yeah. Look,
I think the the lino layer will will be incredibly
grateful and you'll end up with a better job if
you could, because they're not terribly difficult to disconnect for

(54:54):
a plumber. Right, So ideally, I know it's it's two
extra trips and so on, but I would get the
plumber in, disconnect it, get the lino layer in, do
the I know, all the way through there, and then
reinstall that tub on top of the lino.

Speaker 3 (55:13):
Oh. So if I bought a new unit new laundry units, now, Chris,
this is an older one. Do you laundry units now
sit on the floor or do they have to be bolted.

Speaker 7 (55:28):
And what you'll find those little bolts that you can
see when you look inside or when you get down
your hands and knees and you look underneath, they're really
just there as adjustment, right, So they're not actually fixed
to the floor. Oh, they're just like it's a bolt
with a nut or two nuts, and you can change
the adjustment to level them up. But they're not actually

(55:50):
fixed to the well. In my experience, they're not fixed
to the floor. So there'll be a couple of fixings
at the back into the wall. You could get someone
and disconnect the pipes, lift that out and yeah, if
you want to replace it, if it's looking like it's
end of life, then get a new one ready, have
the old one ripped out, do the lino put the
new one in on top.

Speaker 3 (56:10):
Can you cut those bolts off the floor?

Speaker 7 (56:14):
Well, they're there for a reason, and if the floor's
not exactly level, then they'll they help you adjust it. Also,
you really don't want the bottom of the cabinet sitting
on the ground because it will trap moisture and it
will start to rust. So there's a reason that it's
up off the ground slightly.

Speaker 3 (56:32):
Okay, all right, okay, thank you, good.

Speaker 7 (56:35):
Luck, all the best, take care. See then, and I
tell you what, if they are looking a bit chabby,
I've had a reasonable success at giving them a bit
of a touch up with the paint. I won't say
that because Bryce is listening and he'll be going you
can't do that anyway. If you want to know the
right way to do things, then our painting expert Bryce
from Razine is on the line. Will be back in

(56:57):
just a couple of minutes. If you've got some specific
painting questions, text them through to me now nine two
nine two. It is seven to twenty five.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
On sorting the garden, asked feet for a hand the
resident builder with pet wolfcab call.

Speaker 7 (57:15):
Oh, this is fantastic. We've got like a Shakespearean type
question in here. To paint or not to paint?

Speaker 8 (57:21):
That is the question.

Speaker 7 (57:22):
Anyway, we'll get to that in a minute because on
the line is our painting expert Bryce McDermott from the
good people at Razine.

Speaker 4 (57:29):
Greeting sir, greetings, are we indeed?

Speaker 7 (57:32):
I'm feeling all Shakespearean. Now to paint or not to paint?
That is the question. Someone will be able to tell
me what particular piece of Shakespeare that came from. But
I'm pretty sure at Shakespeare. Otherwise I'm just going to
look like a muppet, which.

Speaker 13 (57:45):
Is thank you.

Speaker 7 (57:47):
There you go. You and I were went to the
right school at the right time to know.

Speaker 8 (57:52):
All that stuff.

Speaker 7 (57:53):
Ridy, Oh, let's not get distracted. But it is a
very good question. Hey, but before then, what's on your mind.

Speaker 13 (58:01):
I'm just I'll just do a little bit of painter advertising.
You know, it's been a quiet winter this year, and
you know, if you want to book a painter now
for you to do your house up for Christmas and
stuff like that. So now it is a good time.
So yeah, get out there and book a painter. I'm
sure there'll be lots of guys that would be keen

(58:22):
to to excuse me, do the work.

Speaker 7 (58:24):
Yeah, it's not a bad time to be scouting around
looking for tradees to be fair.

Speaker 8 (58:29):
Yeah, yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 7 (58:31):
Right, let's deal with the Shakespeare one. A question for
your razine expert to paint or not to paint? That
is the question corrugated iron fence.

Speaker 13 (58:41):
Hmmmm, bear or painted.

Speaker 7 (58:45):
Let's assume that it's I wonder whether they've done what
I did a couple of years ago, which is I
I went round to my mate who runs a roofing company,
and I hoovered up all of his spare sheets and
I built myself a new fence, and I put my
multi colored sheets facing inside, and I wanted them not

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to be multi colored, and so I've painted them. So
let's say you've got some color steel sheets. You've done
your Corrigo Dion fence, which I love, but you've picked
up a few different colored sheets, and you want to
make them all the same color.

Speaker 8 (59:22):
What would you do?

Speaker 13 (59:24):
Okay, obviously they'll need to be clean. Yeah, we have
a primer that's called pre coated steel primer which you
can put on. It's an oil based product, does smell
a bit, and then you can you can being a fence,
you wouldn't have to put roof paint on it as such,
but you could put some at roof on it, or

(59:45):
you could you could just coat it with lum besider
and you know, easy enough to change the color and
when the mood takes you.

Speaker 7 (59:54):
Okay, let's just on this. Let's imagine that it's a
good old fashioned Corrigo din fence that's either in galve
or zinc a loom. More likely if it's new, so
it's unpainted raw, what would you do?

Speaker 13 (01:00:12):
I would make sure there's no rust or anything like
that on us. There is, you know, you just just
remove the loose rust and spot prime. That was GP primer,
which is a general purpose primer, and then a full
coat of galvo one, which is our oil based galvanized
iron primer, and then proceed as to the color steel

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sheets as well.

Speaker 7 (01:00:35):
A brilliant radio metal garage door that's a little bit powdery.
Is it possible to repaint? And if so, how do
I go about it?

Speaker 13 (01:00:43):
From Pauline Again, If it's color steel, yes, you'll need
to wash it down. If it's powdery, you'll need to
wash it down with roof and metal wash and give
it a good rinse and let it dry. Make sure
there's If it's a I presume it's a tilted door
or if it's a roller door, you have to get

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all the grease out of the channels right another side
of the door. Yeah, because paint won't stick to that.
But let's just say it's a tilted door, and then
you know, proceed with the pre coated steel primer. Once
it's all clean and dry and ready to go, and
then two coats of summit.

Speaker 7 (01:01:24):
Roof Summit roof again, and that's is there a little
bit of flexibility, a little bit of stretch in that.

Speaker 13 (01:01:32):
Well, it's a water based roof paint basically, but you know,
anything metal basically it will work quite happily on it.
And it's got a nice loosing finish as well, you know,
similar to what color steel would be, you know, if
you bought it straight from the yard.

Speaker 8 (01:01:46):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:01:46):
Sure, Now this is an interesting one too. Texture has
come through and said, look, I've I'm getting some new
joinery made, and my joiner is telling me I need
to start with a full oil based primer system. What's
your response to that?

Speaker 13 (01:02:09):
Yeah, yeah, I do. What the join us say is
because I've dealt with a couple of joiners in the
past who insist on that system. Yes, basically, because you
know it's part of their warranty. You always do what
the joiner the join us says, and you know, if
there is any issues, at least you've followed everything to
the letter.

Speaker 7 (01:02:28):
Yeah, I mean, in some ways, I'm a little bit
I mean it's more and more common these days for
the joiner to actually apply that first coat. You know,
they've set up often a little spray booth or something
like that in the in their factory, and so joinery
gets sent to site, not bear. But I guess if
it is going to cite bear, then it's it's up

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to you to make sure that you prime it thoroughly.
And if the recommendation is oil based, then yeah, you
right stick with that. But you know, i'd suggest to
someone that they take the hardware off and like prime
weather behind the hinge for example, run leaving that bear.
And of course it's a bugbear of mine people that
don't prime like the top and the bottom of a door,

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especially an exterior door.

Speaker 13 (01:03:15):
Yes, you know, I've met inspectors that go around with
a mirror and will put the inspection mirror over the
top of the door to see at the top in
the bottom. So that should be.

Speaker 17 (01:03:28):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:03:28):
Actually, on a similar vein, can you tell me the
best paint to use on a pre primed barge board?
So can we unpack this a little bit, because again,
you know, weather boards, barge boards, faces, that sort of thing.
If you're buying them, they're coming to you typically with
a coat of paint on them. I've always seen that

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as kind of just there to protect the timber during
delivery and installation. How from a technical point of view,
if you're seeing, you know you've you've gone down, you've
in this case, you've picked up a brand new bit
of barge board. It's got a primer coat on it.
What's the correct thing to do?

Speaker 13 (01:04:11):
The correct thing to do would be, you know, obviously
read the ticket on the on the on the on
the timber. Yes, you've primer their manufacturer recommends. But generally,
you know, most of my guys will you know, they'll
go around and I'll spot prim all the nail holes,
fill them and then reprime those. But and then after

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that they'll give it a full coat of acrylic primer advocate. Yes,
you know, because simpathly because the holding primers, you know,
you don't know how long they've been in the yard.
You know, they don't last as long as you know,
normal normal sort of primers, you know, especially under sunlight
and stuff like that. So you know, you've got to
be it's it's best to reprime the whole thing, and

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that way you've got a good solid base.

Speaker 7 (01:04:57):
Yeah, and I've I've always been surprised and it's not
at all the criticism of the pre prime boards. I
think they're a great innovation, right having you know, built
at a time where you got boards that were completely
raw and you spent hours priming them and all.

Speaker 8 (01:05:11):
The rest of it.

Speaker 7 (01:05:11):
So I think they're really good. But what I've noticed
is that it's amazing how like if you take a
bit of sandpaper and give them a light rub, how
quickly that that holding primer comes off in a sense,
you know, so like you seem to get a lot
of dust when you're sanding them. But I think it's
really necessary to give them a light sand, make sure

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that everything's firm, and then another primer. And I've seen
a couple of jobs where people have just gone, oh good,
it's got a primer coat. I'm just going straight on
with my top coat. And I think it shows, and
I think in some cases it'll fail.

Speaker 13 (01:05:48):
Yeah, it'll peel off.

Speaker 8 (01:05:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 13 (01:05:50):
We do make a holding primer that, you know, we
sell to a number of different suppliers. It's blue and color.
I think it's called true prime. It does stand up,
you know a lot better to UV and things like that.
If you're planning on a light color and things like that.
In all cases, it's best to you know, put a

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white undercoat on it, you know, to give you that
solid base anyway, right.

Speaker 8 (01:06:17):
Yeah, perfect.

Speaker 7 (01:06:20):
A couple of questions of a similar vein, which is,
you know, we're looking for magic paint?

Speaker 3 (01:06:25):
Is there?

Speaker 7 (01:06:25):
What's the best.

Speaker 8 (01:06:28):
Sorry I'm laughing.

Speaker 7 (01:06:29):
What's the best paint inside walls? Is there any paint
that only needs one coat of paint?

Speaker 13 (01:06:35):
No, I'm over complicate things.

Speaker 7 (01:06:41):
No, No, it was a complete sentence.

Speaker 18 (01:06:44):
Yeah, perfect, Yeah, yeah, if you read the directions, if
you read the you know, the data square on the
can and things like that, you know the usual number.

Speaker 13 (01:06:55):
Of coaches too, Yes, yeah, yeah, just just do that.

Speaker 7 (01:07:01):
Yeah, brilliant, brilliant. Right, I'll just read this out and
you can your own comment. Good morning, Bryce. Need to
repaint old painted outside boards. Ninety percent of the old
paint flaked off by careful water blasting. Is there a
magic paint to cover the remaining old paint? Or am
I into standing? It isn't an attractive finish required, just protection,

(01:07:25):
thanks Graham.

Speaker 13 (01:07:29):
I mean, you know, ninety percent of it's gone, but wow,
you know the remaining ten percent you could could fail
as well. You know, once you've put the paint in
the new coatings on top, you know, serve as tensin
that it creates and things like that can actually make
old cotings blister off. Plus if it's really old paint

(01:07:50):
as well, you know you could be dealing with lead
as well, so you've got to be pretty careful.

Speaker 12 (01:07:55):
Yeah, yeah, you know I would. I would probably.

Speaker 7 (01:08:00):
Try and knock the real I mean, if ninety percent
of your old paint came off when you water blasted it,
while the rest is just a bit lazy and just
waiting to fall off, now.

Speaker 13 (01:08:10):
You know, well, you know the result will be disappointing,
but you've also going to think of your health as well,
So pop into one of the stores and get a
lead test kit. We sell them.

Speaker 8 (01:08:20):
Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 7 (01:08:22):
And now this is a really interesting one too, following
on sort of from the discussion around pre prime. So
i'll just read this text out. We've had to effectively
paint our new build house twice. We've built a weather
board house, built it over a wet winter, painted in
a mid gray in spring. Over the summer, a lot
of the weather boards have shrunk, revealing up to five

(01:08:44):
millimeters of the yellow primer. So I had to go
around and touch up all of those areas. Have you
heard of this happening before in hindsight, other than building
over summer and painting in autumn. Are we just unlucky?

Speaker 8 (01:08:59):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:08:59):
You know, love the razine paint. But that's and I
don't I think these things are not connected necessarily, But
people underestimate I think, just how much movement you might
have in weather boards. And they're designed to move, so
they're doing exactly what they're supposed to do. But in
this instance here, because that it's shrunk, you're seeing the

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old primer.

Speaker 13 (01:09:22):
Yeah. I mean if if you're in a perfect world,
you know when when the builder is fixing the weatherboards,
you know, you know, you'd get the painter in and
he'd prime them up and put one coat of the
final color on the board before it's attached to the house.
That way, if you do get some movement, you don't
see that little yellow line. Timber is a movable so ubstrate. Absolutely,

(01:09:47):
it's you know, it cracks, it moves, it expands, it contracts,
you know, it does all sorts of things. It's the
natural material.

Speaker 8 (01:09:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 7 (01:09:56):
Absolutely, last one. Today, someone wants to paint the concrete
base of a veranda. The surface is in good condition
and I intend to use. I think they're actually talking
about the level area that you walk on, because what
they want to do is paint with some grip. Talking

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to a friend that's been suggested that I need to
treat the surface before I top coat. It isn't necessary.
And what's it called? So in terms of prepping, like
a concrete patio for painting, what would you do?

Speaker 4 (01:10:30):
In terms of prep, you know, you can get it
clean and.

Speaker 13 (01:10:36):
Ready to accept paint, i e. You know, give it
a good water blasts, mold treatment and stuff like that.
If it's got it, if it's slightly rough and old,
then I would put a Cato sure seal on it,
oil based, and then the top coats would be walk on,
which is extremely non slip of my front porch. And

(01:10:59):
you know, with this weather we're having and you know,
lots of water and everything, it is very very non slip.
So the product is called walk on, So use that.

Speaker 7 (01:11:08):
I have a look for that brilliant. Oh mate, that's
that's awesome, And I'm please we covered off some of
that stuff around, you know, pre prime boards and proper
treatment and so on, because I'm sure that you guys.
I mean I know that like yourself and Jay will
often get called out and someone's gone, I think I've
got a problem. And I wonder whether sometimes it's that
thinking that there's an easy way. I'm just going to

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go and throw a code of paint over the top
of it when that's not the recommended pathway.

Speaker 13 (01:11:36):
Yeah, it's it's a very common thing. And you know,
people do get quite upset when they see things like
that happening on their house. Yeah, so you know there's
an easy cure, but sometimes you know that, you know,
people are just pushed for time and they just can't
do it. But it's the best thing to do.

Speaker 7 (01:11:56):
Yeah, brilliant, appreciate it. Bryce, Thank you very much for
your time this morning. Okay, all the best, do you
take care. That's sprice our painting expert from the good
people at Razien. That's where you get all the good
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CAD program stripping, wallpaper stripping, wallpaper and the covering molds
that's kind of behind the wallpaper, sitting on the surface
of the plaster board. You know, is it a leak
from outside or is it potentially just moisture. That's that
internal moisture that's always inside our house. It's being trapped
there and by furniture that we place too close to

(01:12:40):
the wall. And I've saw some research it might have
been a brand brand's paper or something similar that says,
you know, if like most of us, you've got the
couch and it's hard up against the wall every now
and then, just pull it forward and allow that space
to ventilate as well. I think that's really important. I
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Speaker 12 (01:13:43):
Paul?

Speaker 7 (01:13:43):
Good morning, Good morning.

Speaker 19 (01:13:47):
I just got a question on the decking timber. Now,
I've got a deck that's got old pined decking timber
on it and I'm thinking about it, you know, maybe
upgrading it to something else.

Speaker 12 (01:14:02):
But do you have the.

Speaker 19 (01:14:05):
I mean that's got the groups facing up?

Speaker 7 (01:14:07):
Yes?

Speaker 19 (01:14:09):
What about you know?

Speaker 12 (01:14:10):
I mean I've.

Speaker 19 (01:14:11):
Googled it and a couple of guys say that if
you have the if you have the grooves down, it
helps with the Yeah, with the air circulation under Yes.
Except so what do you say, I mean up or
down for the grooves?

Speaker 12 (01:14:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 7 (01:14:32):
Yeah, yeah. So there's a couple of things there. One
is typically like I would never typically do grooves up right,
I will on the nosing for stairs or on stair treads.
So if I'm bringing my decking down the stairs because
I think it's it is effective in terms of slip resistance,

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and so I've always looked at the grooves in terms
of slip resistance, right is it. If they're up, it'll
help that. But if you flip them the other way
and the grooves are down, then what you've got is
less area directly contacting the joists. So instead of the
entire surface of the decking board being fastened down against

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the top of the joist, which means that moisture that's
there is trapped there, right, And you might find if
you go and pull up your deck that in those
areas you might have either a bit of rock that's
occurred on the underside of the decking board, or it
might actually be sort of accelerating any decay in the

(01:15:35):
top of the joists, in which case there's a practical
well it makes sense to go, okay, well, if you've
got the grooves down, then you've got a bit of
ventilation there, you've got less surface contact, less likely to
get decay. I like most of us, I'll watched a

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bit of stuff from overseas, and I noticed that American
builders in particular use like a waterproof tape over the
top of their deck. Joists fall laying the decks the
decking timber down, and it's not common practice in New Zealand,
but I I wonder whether we'll start to see people
doing that. I've I'm a little bit unsure as to

(01:16:19):
the effectiveness of that that in the end, if I
put a flashing tape over the top of my joice
and then I nail my deck down onto it, what
am I actually protecting because I'm still fastening through there,
you know, realistically, is it going to Yeah, I mean,
it's it's just a question that I've got. I really

(01:16:40):
don't know the answer. I'm sure if people are doing it,
they're doing it because it is more effective.

Speaker 19 (01:16:45):
But yeah, I'm just looking at the look of the deck,
you know, because the deck with the grooves and gets
a bit grubby.

Speaker 4 (01:16:54):
And ye.

Speaker 19 (01:16:56):
And I've a friend of mine made a deck and
Queeler and he and and he's he's he's got the
grooves down and it looks really nice with the flat
seat and like you know, Queler has got all the
knots on it as well, so it looks really enormous.
But I'm just going to use pine again. I can't
afford the actual quiler, so I'm just I don't know,

(01:17:20):
I might just do it with the grooves down.

Speaker 13 (01:17:24):
Look, I I just just for a different look.

Speaker 7 (01:17:26):
You know, little Vitex deck a couple of years ago,
and we went grooves down, you know, stainless steel fixing,
So screw fixings obviously looks so much nicer. It's it's
unusual these days to see. I have to say, I personally,
I can't stand looking at let's say, a timbered a

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pine deck or decking pine decking boards that have then
been fastened down with a gun nail.

Speaker 4 (01:17:55):
Right.

Speaker 7 (01:17:56):
No, I just think if I go to a place
and I look at that, I just go you just
don't care. Right well, at the very least handnail, you know,
use a jolt or a decking nail and nail and
then punch them. I think screw fixings or you know,
either a conventional sort of countersunk screw if you want

(01:18:19):
the bigger head, or you know, the decking screws now
that have got a counter thread to them. It's a
really tidy solution. I would still pre maybe not so
much in pine, certainly on the ends of the board.
I'd pre drill so you don't get any splitting. Fasten
them down with the decking stainless steel decking screws or
coated decking screws. But if you are going to go pine,

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there's quite a lot of variability in terms of the
quality that so don't always buy the cheapest pine, right,
Go and have a look at it. Spend a little
bit more to get a good quality or good grade
of pine. And then I would also recommend that you
let it flash off and then give it a coat

(01:19:04):
to seal it, because it will last a lot longer,
it'll be easier to maintain, and the actual maintenance of
that sealer is not difficult. It's a wash and an
application sort of every two years, and that will that
will last. That will mean that your decking will last
a lot longer as well.

Speaker 13 (01:19:23):
Okay, Pete, Yeah, that's really good.

Speaker 7 (01:19:24):
Good stuff, nice talking. Enjoy and of course you'll you'll
have it done by Christmas. All I didn't say which Christmas.
Good on you mate, all the best. Take care. Oh
oh that's delightful. Yeah, I mean, is it is it
time to start thinking about those projects that you want
to get done before Christmas?

Speaker 8 (01:19:45):
Probably is, folks, probably.

Speaker 7 (01:19:46):
Is eight hundred and eighty ten eight. If you'd like
to talk about building, we can do exactly that Morning
Peak nineteen fifties bungalow, no extraction. In the kitchen where
the stove is, there is a window directly above the
stove which extends about halfway across the stove, leaving not
a lot of wall space, but there's a meter and
more of walls behind the stove. To the side is

(01:20:09):
the bespoke range hood maker that could make an offset
range hood so that we could extend sideways off the
wall over to the stove in the why cutter, I
don't know. I mean, I'm sure there is someone who
could do that. The other thing that I saw in
that instance is actually to have a rangehood that was
suspended from the ceiling, whether that's an off the shelf

(01:20:34):
solution or something that someone had had custom made. So
the power pack is in some framing or a structure
that hangs from the ceiling above the range hood and
in front of the window in this instant, so that
might be your best suggestion there. I've got time for

(01:20:56):
one more quick text as well. Someone who's doing a
nineteen thirty's bungalow door with glass panels. The putty is
cracked and chipped. What kind of putty to use on
this and what kind of paint for a glossy finish. Well,
let's deal with the putty first up. So there's for
a long time, the only sort of glazing putty that
you had was basically linseed putty, So conventional, light colored,

(01:21:21):
like creamy colored putty. You put that in, you wait
at least seven or eight days for it to develop
a skin, and then you could prime it with an
oil based primer and then finish it. Today you've got
specialist glazing putty. Some of them are like a reddish color.
You can put those in and they're ready to paint

(01:21:41):
the next day. Read the instructions. You may well be
able to use an oil based primer over the top
of those glazing putties that will dry a lot quicker.
And then in terms of glossy finish, you'll probably want
a high gloss. You could go oil based, you could
go water born. Enammels will give you that high gloss

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level as well. So there you go. Right, we'll come
back after New Sport and Weather to take more of
your building questions through till eight thirty and then it's
Redcline Pass from eight thirty this morning.

Speaker 4 (01:22:20):
Squeaky door or squeaky floor.

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Pass from eight thirty this morning. My thanks again to
those people at text Through. So we had a question
prior to the seven o'clock News about sort of a
relatively straightforward, let's say, an entry level CAD program, computerer
aided design program that would allow someone to maybe you know,
help them design. I think it was in this instance

(01:23:14):
like an outdoor area, so some raised planter boxes, maybe
a fireplace, that sort of thing. And a couple of
people have text through, so we've had sketch up which
I'm a little bit familiar with I to be fair,
I tried using it a couple of years ago, but
I got impatient and just didn't spend the time.

Speaker 8 (01:23:30):
To learn it.

Speaker 7 (01:23:33):
But SketchUp apparently is good. Magic Plan is another one,
and Blender three D is also something that you can
download obviously from the internet and use that as well.
So my thanks to those people that text through on that.
A couple of people have text through. We were talking
about decking just prior to the news at eight o'clock. Decking.
It's designed for the grooves down as you say, it

(01:23:55):
eliminates moisture. And then next one that comes in Pete
my friend did the grooves down he slipped on a
frosty morning, broke's back grooves up. It's called deck tread
for a ree and then another one with regard to
the deck guy, push your budget go to the bigger
one forty size board. So there's kind of conventionally there's

(01:24:16):
a four inch board which is about ninety mili or
I guess there's a six inch board which is about
one forty one thirty five something like that, and I agree, Look,
the wide boards actually do look quite nice. There is
a wide timber pine decking board which has is slightly profiled,
so it's got like a ridge in the center, ever

(01:24:38):
so slightly so that it helps shed water to the outside,
because you know, one forty milimeters is a reasonably large
flat surface, water will collect there. And I saw something
the other day about which way up you lay if
the boards are not grooveed, in terms of which way
the grain goes, So sort of basically the curvature of

(01:25:00):
if you cross section you see the rings of a tree,
do you have those down or up? There's a particular way. Obviously,
if they're in a smiley face, then the boards are
going to when they cup, they'll cup up if you
do it with a frown, so smiley face down sort
of thing. If you imagine looking at that cross section,
then if the boards do cup a little bit, it

(01:25:23):
will actually raise the center of the board and shed
water to the outside. So that's something worth considering. But look,
to be fair, there's not a lot of boards that
you would get now where you get to decide which
side up. So there you go. Oh, eight one hundred
and eighty ten eighty is that number to call if
you've got a question of a building Nature had a

(01:25:43):
couple of people push back on my comments around you
know driveway a drive The question at hand was a
driveway that had been installed a couple of years ago
where there's obviously no storm water control, and so water
is sheeting over this newly installed impermeable surface and being
directed to a neighbor's property where it is causing a

(01:26:07):
minor amount of flooding but certainly saturating the ground. Typically,
you know, driveways and permeable surfaces need to have some
sort of way of controlling and capturing storm water, and
it's a pretty common requirement in terms of building REGs.
So in this instance it wasn't done. But then the
council have said, hey, it's not our problem. This is

(01:26:30):
a civil matter, which is a fairly typical response from councils,
and I can kind of understand why they don't necessarily
want to be involved in this. The only response to
that would be if that driveway was part of a
building consent, then it should have been checked to ensure
because I'm sure on the building consent it would have
said you need to have some provision for stormwater capture.

(01:26:54):
And if they didn't do that, then they haven't built
out is it in accordance with the plans? And councils
should pick them up on that. But if it didn't
need a consent, then people should still do the right thing.
But they might not have in which case it becomes
a dispute between neighbors. In council will tend to step
back from that and go it's a civil matter.

Speaker 8 (01:27:13):
Good luck to you.

Speaker 7 (01:27:14):
Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty lines are open. If
you've got a question of a building nature, give me
a call right now, oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (01:27:22):
Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident
filder with vetable scaffs call, Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 4 (01:27:29):
Youth talks EDB.

Speaker 7 (01:27:31):
You and these talks B. We're talking all things building
and construction. Actually, some of says text through just on
the CAD thing. This is fascinating, so CAD computer aided design,
says the Texter. I built a house in Wanica in
two thousand and one, which eventually featured in the Trends magazine.
Designed myself on a piece of German three D software

(01:27:52):
called Broderbund. I saved thirty k on architects fees just
needed a local structural engineer to make sure the design
was compliant in terms of low bearing walls and runoff
and so on. Cost me four grand. That was twenty
four years ago. You can't do that today in a nutshell.
So consents need to be done by someone holding a

(01:28:14):
design license. So obviously that's an architect actually actual designer
in some cases others that have design license. That's part
of the license building practitioner scheme. So yeah, you could.
I suppose you could do a lot of the design.
I would imagine if you go to an architect or
an architectural designer and go here, this is what I want.
It's a can be a very fraught conversation.

Speaker 8 (01:28:38):
Let's put it that way.

Speaker 7 (01:28:39):
If you've been down that path, you probably understand what
I'm talking about. Anyway, we can talk design because that's
where all good buildings start. Ultimately, isn't it good design?
Good building? Inevitably hopefully I eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty the number Brian, Good morning to you.

Speaker 17 (01:28:55):
Here, Good morning meetings. I yeah, I mean good one.
And I want to comment about up and down the group.
Are you nineteen? I built a swimming pool and put
a deck around the side, six hundred wide, all the
way around the fall. And I used tannelized pine ninety

(01:29:15):
milk with nails. Yes, and thirty years later it's still there.
I never painted it.

Speaker 12 (01:29:21):
Wow.

Speaker 17 (01:29:22):
It was got a little bit rough in the after
the winter, and I went round with a hose in
a white rush, yes, and rushed it all clean. And
it just kept going and going and going and never
had a problem.

Speaker 7 (01:29:37):
That's awesome, Yes, thinking I built a deck in nineteen
ninety one there you go. Might have been ninety two,
but around that time pine decking, and I ended up
ripping it. I ripped all the decking off in two
thousand and Look, it wasn't like it wasn't terrible, but

(01:30:00):
had started some of the decking boards had started to
decay and there was a bit of movement. I think
I might have replaced one or two. But by and large,
you know it, it had done pretty good for near
thirty years in an outdoor environment. I had coated it
at one stage, but to be fair, the maintenance in
between was pretty poor. Nowhere near as you know, attentive,

(01:30:25):
let's say, as your maintenance has been.

Speaker 19 (01:30:28):
It was.

Speaker 17 (01:30:29):
It was only only I only ever wire brushes about
three times in that time, yeap, over the thirty years,
and it was only when it got body, you know,
with a bit of rough weather and you know, it
went green, and I found it very easy just to
wire brush off. Yeah nice, and yes it turned up
a little bit, but that didn't take anything off. It

(01:30:49):
was it was easy to sweep and do all that
sort of thing.

Speaker 7 (01:30:53):
And did you have grooves up or grooves down? Yes,
greves up, yeah, which around the play That's what I
would do as well.

Speaker 17 (01:31:01):
Yep, Oh, it was fantastic.

Speaker 7 (01:31:03):
It'd be interesting if there was a time in the
future that you took up some of that decking to
see what happens at that junction between the decking board
and the joist, you know, because what you've got there
is an area ninety millimeters by forty five where you've
got two surfaces fixed hard against each other. When if

(01:31:24):
moisture inevitably gets in there, it's not going to dry out,
and which case, it would be interesting to see whether
you had any decay on the top of the joist
or possibly some decay on the underside of the decking
board from that moisture being trapped there.

Speaker 17 (01:31:41):
Yeah, well, about four years ago we had problems with
the concrete pool, right, and we end up ripping it out,
liking it all out. And then when we pulled the
decking up there was no rock, no nothing, how interesting
anything that's right round it? Yeah interesting, wasn't deteriorated at all.
Some of the winnow's taking the deck off. A lot

(01:32:03):
of it split, but that's obvious.

Speaker 13 (01:32:06):
Yep.

Speaker 17 (01:32:07):
But it's only with sixty eighty milimeter nails. Yeah, so
it didn't cause us a problem at all.

Speaker 4 (01:32:18):
Yeah, brilliant.

Speaker 7 (01:32:19):
Good to hear. Brilliant.

Speaker 17 (01:32:22):
I'm all for one that doesn't paint.

Speaker 7 (01:32:27):
All right, you look after yourself, take care than you
see it. Then, all that talk about decking and that
whole thing around, whether or not by trapping moisture between
two flat surfaces will promote decay. I'm almost tempted to
go with a screwdriver back to the deck that I
built in twenty twenty and back a couple of screws

(01:32:49):
out and flip one of the boards over and see
what's going on. I'm not sure that the people in
the house would approve of that, but I'm very tempted
now to apply a bit of science talking about science,
A real scientist on the show shortly. If you'd like
to talk to the red climb past, the lines are open.
The number to call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

(01:33:09):
A lot of talk about storm water on the program today,
not surprising given a couple of decent sized downpalls yesterday.
Rest of the countries had more than its fair share
of water over the last couple of weeks. Pete, could
you please tell me what to do I need to
talk or who I need to talk to? Stormwater from

(01:33:30):
a flat skillion roof on a nineteen forty stucco plaster
home runs into the backyard. I live in Napier and
the Hawks Bay. Do I need a plumber or question mark?
Question mark, Thanks very much, Leanne. I presume that at
the end of that skillion roof, that mono pitch roof,
what you've got is some spouting. The spouting's connected to

(01:33:52):
a downpipe, and the down pipe that's probably then the
question where does it go from there? You know, if
it just goes maybe to a soakage pit that was
built when the house was built in the nineteen thirties,
that sokage pit won't be doing anything anymore, it'll be
full of silt and it'll be completely ineffective. So then

(01:34:14):
you've got to look at what provision for public storm
water there is in the area. Is there a stormwater
line further down the property that you could potentially get
access to, or do you already have stormwater to the street,
in which case maybe you need to replace some pipes
and those sorts of things. So I think it's really
a question probably more for a drain laser, some drain

(01:34:35):
layers of plumbers, or some plumbers are drain layers, But
it's more a drain layers question than a plumber's question,
I think. So good luck with that as well. Depending
on the soil conditions, there might be some options for
sort of containment on the site in terms of soakage
pits or what i'd call an Auckland and only Hunger

(01:34:57):
type drain, which is you drill down sleeve that borehole
and then have that coming up into a chamber. Stormwater
discharges into a chain and then it goes and just
percolates into the ground. But you have to prove that
the ground will take that water.

Speaker 8 (01:35:14):
And so what we did.

Speaker 7 (01:35:15):
Was a number of years ago, one hundred mili hole
drilled into the ground, sleeved in PVC, and then you
take a thousand liter tank and you basically flood that
and measure the capacity. If it dissipates, then that's going
to be suitable. And then we built the chamber, put
all the storm water into it and that works fine.

(01:35:37):
But you do have to prove that those systems work.
So there are some solutions, which is great. Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eight. Youve got a couple of
minutes if you've got a building question. Otherwise we're into
the garden with Rudd shortly back in a.

Speaker 1 (01:35:48):
Mood measure twice God was but maybe called Pete first.
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