Full Show Podcast: 10 August 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to The Resident Builder podcast with Peter wolf
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owning the garden, asked Pete for ahead. The Resident Builder
with Peter wolf Camp Call eight h eighty eight US
talks edb.

Speaker 2 (00:28):
A house sizzle even when it's done, even when the
grass is overgrown in the yard, even when a dog
is too old to bar, and when you're.

Speaker 3 (00:43):
Sitting at the table trying not to starve.

Speaker 2 (00:47):
House caisor home even when we are Then, even when
you're there loone, house is a long even when there's go,

(01:12):
even when you go around fund the ones you love,
your mom.

Speaker 3 (01:17):
Scream does broken pains, being in funnel locals West brom
when they're going and leaving the.

Speaker 2 (01:26):
House, even when we'll bend, even when.

Speaker 3 (01:33):
You're in there alone.

Speaker 4 (01:44):
All a very good morning and welcome along to the
Resident Builder on Sunday. You're with me people camp And
this is a program where we can talk about something
I love talking about. Basically, it's building, it's construction, it's
all things do I why do it yourself? Or for
those jobs that either you can't or don't want to
or aren't allowed to do yourself. Then we can talk

(02:05):
about engaging with contractors, choosing the right materials, getting the
right materials on site at the right time in order
to make jobs run efficiency efficiently. Rather, all of these
things we can discuss on the program this morning. So
really looking forward to your calls, your company, the conversation
and every now and then a good old fashioned robust

(02:26):
debate about which is the better approach to take. Certainly
there's plenty of It's been a year eighteen months really
of significant change in terms of the political landscape around
building and construction, with further announcements even this week with
I think it was both Chris Pink and David Seymour

(02:47):
going to a garden shed and freeing it of the
red tape that had been wrapped around it as a
way of graphically describing the removal of some of the
existing restrictions around where you can put sheds, minor dwellings
and so on and so forth. So how far from
a boundary of garage typically needs to be before it

(03:07):
requires a consent, et cetera, et cetera. Anyway, if you've
I mean, look in some ways, it's quite sensible, isn't it.
I would add a guess so that ninety percent of
the garden sheds in New Zealand are probably technically located
in the wrong position. Of that ninety percent, how many
of them might actually be a problem as a result

(03:29):
of their incorrect location, Probably very few. I've got a question.
The lines are open. The number to call is eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty. We can talk about that.
We can talk about all things painting and as well
because our painting expert, which is Bryce from Razine, will
be along at about seven twenty five this morning to

(03:51):
have a go at answering all of your painting questions.
So any text you can text through questions about painting
will put those to Bryce at around seven twenty five.
Of course, as always, went into the garden with through
climb passed from around eight thirty this morning, So plenty
to look at today on the show. Eight hundred and
eighty ten eighty is that number to call. Lots to

(04:13):
talk about. As always, we always get a little bit busy,
and also I'm going to I had an approach this
week from someone who said, hey, look, I've got some
friends who are involved in the charity and one of
the things that they're going to auction off at a
Gala bid auction so you can all of us, you,
me everybody can log on and bid for these items.

(04:33):
Is essentially a tiny home a minor dwelling, which is
pretty impressive sort of auction item to have. So this
is for a charity called to Kwi Meyer. It's set
up by some existing service personnel to provide support and
assistance for those service personnel who might have experienced some

(04:55):
trauma during the course of their work and need some
help with recovery. I think it's and it's for first
responders and defense personnel. So I'll be talking with Meghan
and Rebecca at about eight point fifteen and give you
an idea of how you can bid, and I'll tell
you what there was the tiny and then of course
you know, I'm going to have a look at that

(05:17):
on the old Gala bid thing. And there's there's also
an electric an electric truck which is fascinating, and there's
things like going up in the police helicopter and maybe
going along with the Maritime Patrol in the Auckland Harbor,
or being able to go to the Devenport Naval Base

(05:38):
and use the simulator and drive a frigate so there's
there's some pretty cool stuff up for auction, and it's
a very, very worthwhile charity. So we'll be talking with
them about that, and particularly about this little tiny house
that's up for auction that happens on Wednesday of this week.
We'll close on Wednesday of this week. So I'll tell
you a bit more about that when we talk to
Meghan and Rebecca later on this morning. Right now, let's

(05:59):
get into it. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call Leroy. Good morning, good I'm well thanks.

Speaker 5 (06:09):
I've got a sad garden shed.

Speaker 6 (06:12):
I just bought.

Speaker 5 (06:13):
And what sort of size timber can I use for
the floor inside it? It's a two point three by
one point five.

Speaker 4 (06:23):
Two point three by one point five okay, So if
you lay your choice out in such way that the
you minimize the span and the maximum span is going
to be about one point five meters. I mean, look
for a garden shed. Let's say you put how is
the ground that it's going on reasonably level?

Speaker 5 (06:46):
Yeah, I'm going to sit it on the one hundred
by one hundred.

Speaker 4 (06:51):
Yeah, you're going to conquer those in the ground.

Speaker 5 (06:55):
Now, I'm not gonna sit on conquered. I'm just going
to sit on timber so they can.

Speaker 4 (06:57):
Just you know, yeah, you can move it around. Okay, yeah,
So I would imagine no, typically we have a bearer
and then the joist, right, so I would I would
bring you bearers in maybe two or three hundred from
the outside, so there the span then would reduce down
to about one point two and then if you used
to be fair, you could probably get away with some

(07:17):
one fifty by fifty tennalized as you floor joists maybe
at four hundred centers. Do you want a solid floor
or a slattered floor? What will you use for flooring?
Like some plywood or something like that?

Speaker 3 (07:33):
Yeah?

Speaker 5 (07:33):
Well I was looking at like a hundred, like one
hundred six only because I want to use it for firewood.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Ah okay, right, so you're going to it's going to
be heavier, yeah, or would there be.

Speaker 6 (07:49):
Too sick.

Speaker 4 (07:52):
When you say you're going to use hundred bye hundred?
Are you going to put one hundred by hundreds next
to each other so no gaps in between and have
like a solid floor like a raft floor almost?

Speaker 5 (08:02):
Yeah? Yeah, yeah, because it's any authority, yes it see
garden garden shed full shep you know, one of those
little ones.

Speaker 4 (08:11):
Yeah, it's quite a lot of timber though, you know,
like you're buying a lot of timber to floor, so
I think, you know, and if look, if it's going
to be a garden shed, maybe you just put down
some Maybe you use some like some four to three
so one hundred by seventy five as your choice. Frame
out your floor with that, and then you could use
some fence pailings if you wanted to, which is generally

(08:33):
cheap as chips, right, so six x one fence paling
and just knock those together nice and tight, and that'll
give you pretty cheap and robust floor, and then stand
the garden shed up on there. So the garden shed
itself is all metal, is it?

Speaker 7 (08:50):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (08:50):
Yeah, okay, look I just bought it from minor ten yep, yep. Whatever.
However long it tells you it's going to take to
put it together, double that amount as my experience of
a couple of garden sheds. And yeah, make sure you've

(09:14):
got someone to give you a hand. So yeah, that'll
be fine. Look, there's there's a couple of different options there,
but and and just don't try and have a little
bit of ventilation underneath it, so you know, don't have
it sort of ideally at least one hundred and fifty
off the ground, you know, just so that there's airflow
underneath there. That'll help as well.

Speaker 7 (09:35):
Yeah. Cool.

Speaker 5 (09:36):
Last week a guy rang up about it liquid for
like an aluminium windows.

Speaker 4 (09:43):
Yeah, yeah, yeah. What what we were talking about was
like I struck down an old vice that's been on
my bench for ages, right, and so I cleaned it
all up, and then because it's it's cast metal, I
wanted to apply something to it, not a paint or
anything like that, just to keep the metal in good condition.

(10:05):
And so we had a number of different comments including
lamb fat or mutton fat rather which I didn't go
down that path, but I did on my way home
go and buy a tin of penetrol so p E
N E t R O L. I got it in
a spray can and then actually I've put that on

(10:25):
and I have to say I quite like the look
of it. I didn't quite get time to reassemble it
this week, but yeah, it worked really well. So penetrol.

Speaker 7 (10:35):
Yeah, yep, all right.

Speaker 4 (10:39):
I'll tell you what, leroy. Someone's just text through as well.
What they've used is some old wooden palettes for the
shed floor. So and the palettes cost like five bucks each.

Speaker 5 (10:50):
Yeah, so that's.

Speaker 4 (10:52):
Yeah, it's not a bad option. I've seen that a
few times actually, So anyway, something to think about all
the best and I mean, look, if you can reuse
these things, I think that's fantastic. It's a tremendous amount
of way stay that comes out of pellets often. Oh right,
one hundred and eighteen eighty the number to call Liam

(11:12):
good morning, Good morning, Hey Liam. How are you doing?

Speaker 8 (11:18):
Sorry?

Speaker 4 (11:20):
How are you Liam?

Speaker 9 (11:22):
I'm very well, very well.

Speaker 4 (11:23):
How can I help?

Speaker 9 (11:25):
I have I purchased in nineteen eighties traditional style townhouse
about two years ago. Three stories, garage on the bottom
and living on the middle and bedrooms up the top.
There's a heat pump on the middle. There's the heat
pump on the top level. I've noticed during the winters
a lot of condensation on the windows, so I ended

(11:48):
up kind of got a windows vacuum, window cleaners vacuuming
down not a huge amount of mold. I'm potentially looking
at banks are kind of offering the one percent healthy homes,
you know, so you can double laser windows yes, ventilation
systems things like this, and you can kind of top
up your morgic for three I think it's three years
at one percent, and I just wanted to I was

(12:09):
just wondering about the I suppose the benefits of that. Obviously,
it's going to add a lot of value to the house,
but in terms of the living conditions I've got two
young kids. Is that going to improve it dramatically by
getting those kind of systems?

Speaker 4 (12:25):
Short answer is yes, But let me explain why. So
nineteen eighties house, the upside to that is that at
least you'll have some insulation in the walls. Right, So
you know, at that time we were starting to insulate,
not particularly well, but we were at least doing it.
Making it a crack at doing some insulation. So there'll

(12:46):
be some insulation in the walls. There'll be some insulation
in the ceiling. Is it a concrete slab that you're
on or a timber floor?

Speaker 9 (12:55):
Is concrete?

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Okay? So excuse me. So we kind of know what
the building envelope looks like. I'm presuming it's what i'd
call standard aluminium joiner, yes, correct, with single glazing.

Speaker 9 (13:11):
Correct?

Speaker 4 (13:11):
Okay, So chances are and I do quite a bit
of work with Metro Performance Class who do the retro
double fit, so you know they would send someone out
they have a look at it. Chances are they've got
extrusions that will allow you to take the beating out
of the existing windows, existing joinery, replace it with double
glazing units, and then replace the beating to hold it

(13:35):
in place. So what that will do is it's about
even with relatively standard double glazing, the thermal effectiveness is
about seven times more than what you're getting out of
a piece of single glazed right. So if you're thinking
about what happens to the heat that you generate inside
your house at the moment it's looking to escape to

(13:57):
the outside. A day like today, it's four degrees outside
in Auckland, it might be eighteen degrees inside your house,
and that heat's looking to escape. So putting the double
glazing it will help that. Having the conventional aluminum jowinery,
that's a pathway to the outside that is difficult to

(14:19):
solve without replacing all of the joinery, and that's probably
cost prohibitive. The other thing is that increasingly we're aware
that having good ventilation inside our houses that assists with extraction,
so it helps to get rid of all of that
moisture and that humidity that comes about from just simply

(14:40):
occupying a house. Right, So if there's four of you
in the house then and you're all breathing, you're all
creating moisture. And unless we've got a way of actively
ventilating the house, that moisture is going to stay around,
and that makes the inside of the house cold, feels cold,
and is cold because of the moisture. So if you

(15:01):
can look at some ventilation systems, and they've changed a
lot over the lane last couple of years, So systems
that have like a balanced pressure where you're drawing air
from outside and then removing air from those sort of
wet areas inside the house, they are really good to
look at. Three story house can be a little bit

(15:24):
challenging in terms of you know, trying to get let's say,
extraction from the roof out might be challenging, but you know,
it's certainly worth considering. So I think, you know, without
a doubt, taking out the single glazing replacing it with
double glazing will make a difference. Having a decent ventilation
system will also make a difference to that house.

Speaker 9 (15:47):
Fantastic, and just I know, it's very hard from a
cost point of view, would like, could you give a
ballpark figure of you know, a retrofitting versus completely changing
the framing versus the doubbed lazing and then like a
ventilation system ballpark figures not it's very hard.

Speaker 4 (16:03):
Yeah, no, it's a little bit challenging. I mean, you know,
you're better off going and getting a quote for the
double glazing, for example, and then I mean it is
that the challenge is you're going to invest the money
in terms of upgrading the glazing, but then you're still
going to have conventional aluminum joinery, right, which we know

(16:27):
doesn't perform particularly well. And so I guess if you're
committing yourself to sort of you know, an energy efficient
upgrade to your house, you from a building science point
of view, you'd go, Okay, I'm blocking the pathway through
the glazing, but heat transfer is inevitable. So it's just

(16:47):
going to look for another opportunity, and it's it's going
to go through the aluminium joinery, right Yeah.

Speaker 9 (16:53):
Yeah, yeah, that's a good starting point.

Speaker 4 (16:59):
It would be really interesting to I mean, look, you know,
you can even look at things like uPVC upgrades. Right,
So what's the clouding on the outside of the house?
Is it weather boards?

Speaker 7 (17:12):
Brick?

Speaker 9 (17:14):
So it's brick and weatherboard brick on the bottom, and
then there's weather board in some of the toss. I think
that they're potentially at some point put weatherboard over the
top of the brick. Would that be.

Speaker 4 (17:24):
Unlikely but possible? Who knows? Yeah, wow, it could be.

Speaker 9 (17:32):
I'm by no means no, no, no, no. It's definitely brick
on the bottom, and then there's a there's a board,
whether it's whether I think it's.

Speaker 4 (17:43):
A yeah, some sort of horizontal clanning. Yeah, I'm just
the reason I'm asking is that, you know, like some
types of clouding, it's more challenging. Let's say, to do
retro fit joinery as in the actual frames and others,
it's it's relatively straightforward. So I think yours probably is
relatively straightforward. It would be and not insignificant cost to

(18:07):
change the joinery out, and but the benefit would be there.
You know, it's then locked in, right, the benefits locked in,
So again, get it priced and and go from there.
And then the ventilation system they they do make a
significant difference to I guess the livability inside the house,
the comfort levels inside the house. If you get that right,

(18:30):
it makes a huge difference.

Speaker 9 (18:33):
Under the ventilation system Sarry last question, system is that
is that a very I suppose vigorous process, like in
terms of is it going into every room, putting in
how is it?

Speaker 10 (18:48):
What? What?

Speaker 6 (18:49):
I guess?

Speaker 4 (18:50):
You know, there's there's kind of a sliding scale, let's say,
so you could you could try and and get a
ventilation system that works. It's at the top of the
house where you might have a roof space that it's
easy to install. Obviously, if you were looking to draw
that ventilation system or to extend so that it included
space in the mid floor and the lower floor, it's

(19:11):
a question of how do I get the ducting down
there right? So, you know, you might find excuse me, promote,
you might find that it's cost prohibitive because in order
to get ducting downstairs, you've got to remove wall linings
and those sorts of things, in which case, you know,
getting advice from a ventilation expert would go, you know,

(19:35):
what's like, we all know what a gold standard ventilation
system might look like. But then that might be cost
prohibitive because of the destruction that you have to go
through to get it, in which case you go, actually,
what I can do is this, which is cost you know,
costs a bit, but not too much. I'm going to

(19:55):
get some benefit. I know I could get more, but
the cost of and the disruption to doing that is
greater than I want to endure. Basically, So you know,
these things are I suppose this is this is the
challenge that we all have with trying to upgrade our
existing properties. Is that you know, I suppose doing it
right in the first place, or doing what we know

(20:17):
we can do today in a new build is relatively straightforward.
Trying to do it in old houses can be really challenging.
But if you actually I'll tell you what, there's some
really good advice and it was interesting to see actually
the Minister Chris Pink was down with the super home
movement a little while ago, just in terms of you

(20:40):
starting your journey to sort of understand with a gross
respect to what you know now, if you want to
sort of expand your knowledge, have a look at some
of the brand's guidelines. So that's the Building Research Authority
of dew Zello and also the super home movement have
a whole lot of information on their website, so quite
quite a good place to sort of start to learn

(21:01):
what sorts of questions you want to be asking. Okay,
lovely to talk with you and all the best, Thank
you very much, take care of them all the best, mate.
Ho by then we'll take short break back in.

Speaker 1 (21:15):
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Speaker 4 (21:26):
News Talks B. It's just gone six almost six thirty
one actually, and remember in the next hour we have Bryce,
our painting expert from Razine, will be available to answer
any text questions that you might have. So if you'd
like to text any painting questions through, I'll put those
aside for Bryce from Razine will do that at about
seven twenty this morning. My apologies of every now and

(21:48):
then I sort of sound a bit croaky and maybe
sort of a bit of a coughing fit. There's a
bit of cold going around and I seem to have
caught it full on. So it was a pretty quiet
day yesterday. It might be this afternoon as well. But
my apologies if it's all difficult to listen to radio,

(22:10):
we're into it. Eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the
number to call someone's text through as well. What's a
good solid, hard wearing wall products that's paintable to line
a garage? So not a plaster board from Andy? I'll
tell you what, and I did it. I did in
a little cabin a little while ago, and I saw

(22:30):
some pole sheds down at field Days that were cutted
out with this. Go online, have a look at JNL
dot co dot NZ and then search for TGV. So
it's triboard panels TGV four hundred wide panels with a
tongue in groove obviously, and then they're either about two

(22:51):
point four or three point six I think is the
next length. So you know, if you've got a slightly
taller shed or garage or workshop, you could do that
fifteen milimeters thick. You can leave it clear finished if
you want. The cabin that I built a couple of
years ago, I used it as lining on the back

(23:12):
wall and then the ceiling, so sort of if you
imagine the lines lined up across the ceiling and down
the wall painted. It looks really really tidy, but also
incredibly durable, so it's fifteen mil. It's impact resistance to
most things that you might find come into impact with
it or cause an impact inside a garage or inside

(23:35):
a house, inside a shed. The off cuts I ended
up giving to my one of my nephews who lined
his basement garage with it. So yeah, it's worth having
a look at. Like I say, not necessarily just for
sheds and garages. And it's funny it's a product that
not the panel, not the TGNV panels, but I picked

(23:59):
up triboard. Gee, it must have been like twenty five
years ago for a place that where building, which was
you know, a large house on a on a rural
site with a minor dwelling on it with a double
garage with accommodation above. So it was one of those
sort of you know, family estate type things. And I

(24:19):
lined the garage with triboard shivers all those years ago.
To the best of my knowledge, it's still there today,
So check it out. At eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is that number to call? Just talking about sheds
as well. This was LeRoy's first comments about building a floor.
Someone's TechEd through to say, hey, look, one option is
to use palettes, which I think is a great idea,

(24:41):
and some of that you can find some that are
actually quite big, so there might actually be that two
point three of his shed. You could probably get a
couple of two point four palettes and then just adjust
them for size. And someone else said, we used railway
sleepers twenty six years ago to set our garden shed
on still good to this day. Yeah, I would imagine

(25:03):
it would be. I guess the channels with that is
you've got to sitting hard on the ground, so you
get a bit of moisture coming through there. I think
one of the old sheds that's at our place is
just rough sorm boards over joyces and okay, it's a
bit of air through and that, but also the dust
goes through so I never have to sweep the floor. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty. Tell me about what's going

(25:25):
on at your place if you've got a question. Eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call. And yes,
big changes coming for we can put garden sheds small
dwellings like up to ten square meters for example. That
whole thing about and it looks to be fair doing
the show now for eleven years or so. When we're

(25:45):
talking about garden sheds, we're talking about you know, sleepouts,
little workshops that people build. The rule has always been
it needed to be the height of the building away
from the boundary. Well, those rules are changing. I'll try
and get the updated information. Not yet, by the way,
but they will change in the future. So if you
want to have a chat about that, that's a great

(26:05):
idea as well. Someone's talking about dehumidifiers for removing moisture
from lions Lions Lim's comments a moment ago around you know,
a nineteen eighties house, aluminum jowinery, single glazed, probably no
great ventilation system in it, and constantly battling that condensation

(26:26):
on the inside of the glass. So we'll double glazing help. Yes,
we're changing the joinery help. Most definitely would putting a
ventilation system help one hundred percent it would, So a
combination of all of those things or some of all
of those things will make a difference. The other intriguing
thing it didn't get a chance to really talk with
them about it is people taking up the offer from

(26:50):
some of the banks for essentially loans to improve your
house in terms of energy efficiency. Right, so if you're
thinking about putting double glazing, and if you think about
putting solar panels in, or if you're thinking about some
energy retro fit to your existing house. Might even be
things like moving from let's say gas to a heat

(27:12):
pump hot water system. You can get one percent loans
from some banks. I don't think all of the banks
are doing it, but it's interesting to hear more and
more people talking about being able to do this work
because they can access that funding. And in fact, if
you've done that, i'd be interested to hear what the
process was, like, what the terms and conditions are. I

(27:35):
know a couple of people who have done it. It's
very specific. It's like, here's the quote for the work
that I'm going to do, maybe solar panels, for example.
It's twenty thousand dollars, and so there'll be an advance
on your mortgage of twenty thousand dollars, but that's set
at one percent interest rates. If you've done it, I'd
be interested in talking with you about it. If you've
got a question of a building nature of any description,

(27:57):
you should call us right down oh, eight hundred eighty
ten eighty squeaky door or.

Speaker 1 (28:02):
Squeaky floor, get the right advice from Pedibulfcap the resident
on news Talk, sab.

Speaker 4 (28:09):
Your news talk said B. And here's the actual press
release from mby this with regard to this announcement, which
was spectacularly displayed by David Seymour cutting through some red
tape on little garden shed I think somewhere at Epsom
or something like that just the other day. So by
the end of twenty twenty five, home owners will be

(28:31):
able to build a single story detached building between ten
and thirty square meters in floor area one meter away
from any boundary or any other building without a building consent,
so up to thirty between ten and thirty square meters

(28:51):
in floor area one meter away from any boundary or
another building. That was the other thing that was always
part of the current legislation that if you were doing
something in your backyard it had to be the height
of the building away from another building as well. Now
it can be much closer. Obviously, it can be a
meter away. And then the other part of the change
is build a single story detached building under ten square

(29:15):
meters up to the boundary or another building without building
consent until the law changes, Detached standalone buildings that don't
meet the current setback requirements may need a consent so.
According to the nb website, these changes aim to give
homeowners more choice about how they use their land, reducing

(29:35):
consenting costs and delays along the way. Here's a practical thing.
Let's say you put a ten square meter shed workshop.
It's not likely to be a minor dwelling, but it
could be a sleep out, a bedroom that someone might
sleep in on the boundary. And you build it and

(29:59):
you put it on the boundary. How do you maintain
that exterior of that building f it's against the boundary?
And if you don't maintain it, what happens to the
exterior cladding in that instance? So I think, yeah, I

(30:23):
mean you'd like to think that they've thought about this,
but there's a question that I haven't seen an answer for.
Oh eight, one hundred eighty ten eighty is the number?

Speaker 9 (30:30):
Jack?

Speaker 4 (30:31):
Good morning, Yeah, good morning.

Speaker 6 (30:34):
Two points. I've got a neighbors who's put a ten
meters shed right on my boundary. So no, I can't
get to that. I've reclad in front of it. I
can't reclad the back of it or put me spouting on. Hence,
I've had water in my shed and there's stormwater if

(30:57):
you like this, rainwater is coming in the back of
my shed, and there I've lost two freezers for of
food as well as the freezers. So that just backs
up you your argument there well.

Speaker 4 (31:08):
And bearing in mind that currently, you know, sheds need
to be where you're legally supposed to put them, right,
so it's technically supposed to be the height of the building,
the height of the shed away from the boundary. So
obviously the one that's there already, the one that's causing problems,
is non compliant. And you know, the other thing is

(31:31):
that I and I had this discussion of some people
this week about you know, stormwater discharge, right, so there's
responsibility for every homeowner to control stormwater discharge. And I
guess the other challenge with this, for example, is going
to be chances are, if you're doing a ten square
meter building and you're going to put it on the boundary,

(31:52):
chances are it's going to have a mono pitch roof,
and most people will slope that towards the boundary, which
means that's where the storm water is going, which means
that's where the spouting should be and some sort of
drainage end connection should be. But humans being what humans are,
I would imagine that many of these little structures don't

(32:14):
have any spouting, and if they do have some spouting,
they've got a downpipe that goes onto the ground. So effectively,
you're directing your storm water potentially to your neighbor's place,
which is not great.

Speaker 6 (32:27):
No, that's exactly what's happened here in my place. So
now my back door, if you like, it's all swampy
and I get water, and I'm sort of raising the
back of the house up to try and negate what
they're doing. So yeah, so agree with here. But my
main question was talked about sheds on the boundary and

(32:51):
stuff like that. So we people put I say, a
two minute sensor. Then they planted with pits porums right
on the boundary, and those pis fororums getting up to
three to four meters. Is that, yeah, you've had to
do that because so effectually, because forms are becoming a fence.

Speaker 4 (33:12):
As well, yes, except they're not considered fences in terms
of the Fencing Act, right, But I know what you're saying.
We've had a couple of property lawyers on the program,
and so the insight that I got from them, and
you would need to go and talk to a lawyer obviously,
is that there is a provision under the Property Act

(33:33):
right that allows you to approach a neighbor to say,
you know, particularly, let's say if you had a view
which is now blocked by some trees that are growing,
you can go to the neighbor and use the Property
Act to sort of request that they trim those trees
in some way. If they were already there maybe when

(33:55):
you bought the property, you possibly don't have a stronger case.
But you know, if it's something that's been planted and
then suddenly you know it wasn't there a couple of
years ago, and shivers. I know what it's like. You
put something in in New Zealand and a few years
later it's four meters high and it's right there on
the boundary, and the neighbor decides, criky, they're a bit
tall now. But I don't have the energy to go

(34:17):
and trim them, et cetera, et cetera. And then yeah,
it's an impulse on you. But that's where the Property
Act comes in as opposed to the Fencing Act.

Speaker 6 (34:28):
Okay, so propery yeah, yeah, of course from now what
was lost was all day at morning, sun, lunch time.
So yeah, well i'm the Padriact. Yeah, it'll be.

Speaker 4 (34:38):
Interesting to see, like just going back to the sheds,
you know, when this legislation actually gets drafted, you know,
will they say, look, there's a you know, like a shed.
Let's assume that most sheds are about two point four
stud height inside, maybe a little bit less on the
boundary side, plus some space for roofing, plus a little
bit of gap underneath to get it up off the ground.

(35:00):
You know, it might be two seven to eight. And
if you've got a one point eight meter high fence,
then that's one meter higher than your existing fence right now.
And you know, if it's ten square meters, then typically
if we're building ten square meters, it's going to be
something like four meters long two and a half meters deep.

(35:23):
Let's say, so that's four meters of your back boundary
or side boundary that will have a one meter high
structure potentially right on the boundary.

Speaker 6 (35:37):
Yes, yeah, and then this is near there's the one
sort of going through at the moment. It's yeah, but
you one's going to retain their own sort of water
on their own probably rather than.

Speaker 4 (35:51):
And you know, this is it's one of those real
nuisance things that that people you know, sometimes like it's
kind of like it's not my problem, but in reality,
as a homeowner or as a property owner, it is
absolutely your responsibility to control stormwater discharge from your own property.
And and it's it's like where where there is no

(36:13):
it's all about channeling or diverting storm water. So you know,
stormwater that falls on the ground, let's say, and it's
natural ground, there's no there's no requirement to control that.
As soon as you divert it. I put a concrete
driveway or an impermeable surface down, you've got to control that.

(36:33):
Soon as you put a shed on it, which has
got a roof, you're collecting that water. You're going to
direct it to some spouting, ideally into a downpipe that
needs to be controlled and needs to be directed to stormwater.
You know, it can't just go onto the ground anymore.
It hasn't ever actually, so no.

Speaker 6 (36:53):
No, yeah, see I'm going to pat my surans come
there and see whether I got any come back or
whether then claim on my neighbor's insurance, you know, for
water coming on the back of probably now surface water,
and because it's an over the house eight years old,
I suppose yeah.

Speaker 4 (37:15):
I mean this kind of comes into that whole gradual
damage thing with insurance companies.

Speaker 7 (37:19):
You know.

Speaker 4 (37:21):
Whether or not they would pay out a claim, but hey,
look they might be able to give you some advice
in terms of approaching the neighbor and saying, hey, look,
can we do something to control that stormwater run off?
Because you know, we tend to think about ten square
meters as not particularly large. I think I don't know
what size the shed is that I've got the side
of the house. It's probably less than ten square meters,

(37:43):
but it's a sufficient catchment area that I've put in
a slim gym tank next to it for irrigation with
an overflow. You know, that tank over winter will fill up.
That's two thousand liters, right, So that's two thousand liters
of water that maybe years ago used to just go
onto the ground. Now I've captured it in a water
tank and I can use that in the guard. There's

(38:08):
your other thought is to put a water tank there
as some goes some way to controlling that storm water.
Appreciate the call, Jack, you take care. Oh eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will take
a break. We'll be back with Donna in just a moment.

Speaker 1 (38:21):
Helping you get those DIY projects done right. The resident
builder with Beautia Wolf Care call, Oh eight hundred eighty eighty.

Speaker 4 (38:29):
Youth talksb Year with News Talks. Heb coming up there.
We got six minutes away from seven o'clock, Philly, brisk
old morning out there. This morning four degrees or something
like that in Auckland. I think parts of the lower
South Island about minus three or so, but hopefully a
nice clear day. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the
number to call. Donna. Good morning, Good.

Speaker 11 (38:51):
Morning, Peter and Hamilton's.

Speaker 4 (38:53):
Oh there you go. That'll be charming, that'd be beautiful.

Speaker 11 (38:57):
It's a beautiful morning there, beautiful, beautiful morning. You're giving
excellent advice.

Speaker 7 (39:02):
You're right.

Speaker 11 (39:03):
The property Act. Your fellow with the drainage coming on too.

Speaker 10 (39:08):
He can.

Speaker 11 (39:08):
Unfortunately he's going to have to talk to a lawyer.
Talk to the neighbor first, say look, sort out your
drainage on your own shed. Otherwise the neighbor will need
a right to drain water over his neighbour's property. You
can't just call the nuisance like that and have water
coming off your property. So he definitely needs to do
that desert, and yeah, it's become a bigger problem.

Speaker 4 (39:27):
Presume us there's a right to drain water over your
neighbor's property. The neighbor could then just go, I'm not
giving you that right, in which case it goes back
to the offending neighbor, who then has to control the
storm water.

Speaker 11 (39:39):
Yes, yes, yes, absolutely, Yeah, so he'll need to do that,
and if he does go into it's going to become
a problem. I guess, I don't know. You get counseled
if you've got a bad neighbor. He might have and
he not even dood about it.

Speaker 4 (39:54):
And look, often people don't, right, And most of the
time we don't go and stand outside when it's raining
and look at the amount of water that comes off
a small roof. But when you do do it, as
I've done it on a number of occasions for some
weird reason, it's actually quite it's quite a lot of
water even from a you know, what you think is

(40:16):
a relatively small roof. If you're bored and it's raining,
go outside and if there's no spouting or something like that,
just look at the amount, or just do a little
bit of calculation in the back of an envelope. It's
quite phenomenal the amount of rainwater that you can collect
off a relatively small roof. And I guess your point is,
if you're not collecting it, then it's ending up somewhere else.

(40:39):
And if it's ending up on the neighbour's property, you
should do something about that.

Speaker 11 (40:45):
Yeah, I absolutely should, because he's obviously been really good
and patient.

Speaker 5 (40:49):
But it's going to become a bigger problem.

Speaker 4 (40:51):
Oh hey, and look it's I had a long conversation
with someone this week about sort of the intensity of rainfall.
So what we're getting now is these really heavy downpours.
It's just going to be even more of a problem,
isn't it that sort of flash flooding that occurs. Appreciate it.
You have a great day, Donna, take care yours. Used
talks said, begives a call. We'll get things set up

(41:12):
before we go to the new Sport where the top
of the are at seven. The number is eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty.

Speaker 1 (41:18):
Measure twice God was but maybe call Pete first video
workcam the Resident Builder News talks the'd be.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
I'm looking at some graphs about rainfall just to explain.
So good morning, welcome to the show. By the way,
why don I speak wofcamp Resident Builder and we're talking
all things building and construction on the show this morning.
We're going to be talking painting as well, so if
you've got any specific painting questions please text them through Bryce,

(41:47):
our painting expert from Razine will be available at around
seven twenty five this morning. Just prior to the news
we were talking about it's a bit of a perennial
topic on the show. You know sheds and we can
put them. It's topical at the moment because the government
have announced as a result of tips to the what
is it the red tape tip line that was established

(42:12):
as part of the Act policies, where people have come
through and said, look, you know, it's a crazy bit
of bureaucracy that the current legislation around where you can
put a garden shed is that it needs to be
the height of the building away from the boundary, etc. Etc.
So now that's going to change stuff. It's ten square
meters or less, it can actually go right on the boundary,

(42:35):
and if it's between ten and thirty square meters, it
can now be one meter away from the boundary without
requiring a specific building consent. Typically, if you went closer
than a meter, especially if it was a habitable space
like a sleepout, then you would need to do a firewall.

(42:55):
This is to prevent the spread of fire in the
event that that starts burning. Does it prevents the spread
of fire to the neighbor? So I guess it a
meter that's no longer required, nor does it need to
be a meter away from an existing building. So if
you're thinking about, you know, putting a shed in the backyard,
and you go to the back of your house, then
typically it would have had to have been the height

(43:16):
of the building away from your existing property or another structure,
so a garage maybe that's in the backyard. Now they
can be a meter apart. But it does raise some
genuine issues in terms of how responsible are people in
terms of managing the storm water. That got us on

(43:36):
to talk about stormwater, got us on talking about drainage,
got us on to talking about the surprising amount of
water that comes off a roof, even if it's a
relatively small one, And so someone's taxed through and said, hey,
good morning, Pete. You do only need turn a millimeters
of rain on that ten square meter roof to fill
like I've got a Bailey slim gen water tank attached
to the side of one of the garden sheds, so

(44:00):
I think it's probably actually a little bit less than
ten square meters. I'll go and measure it tonight when
I get home. But two hundred milimeters of rain on
a ten square meter roof to fill a two thousand
liter water tank, Now mine would fill up certainly this
time of year. And I don't know that we've had
two hundred millimeters of Oh maybe we have, so Auckland

(44:23):
gets about These are old figures. Auckland one thousand, one
hundred and eighteen millimeters of rain on average, or the
mean annual values between nineteen ninety one and twenty twenty one,
one hundred and eight. So five times, almost six times

(44:43):
I could fill up that two thousand meter water tank
just from the rain water that falls on that tiny
little shed that it's not quite on the boundary at
my place. If you've got a question about all of
these new regulations and rules, or putting together garden sheds
or what sort of garden shed you can have, and
what works we can talk about all of that. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call

(45:06):
a couple of texts as well. Someone would like to
build a pergole it with a roof, but need to
work out what to do with the runoff. Our house
is old, and the existing downpipes go into subs as
in soakage pits. If it's an older house, I would

(45:27):
not unreasonably conclude that the soakage pits that were built
or constructed at the time that the house was built
are probably useless right now. Basically, so, typically what would
have happened back in the day was they'd have maybe
a downpipe running into a couple of clay tiles that
would go out into the garden a little bit and

(45:49):
then into what would have been a soakage pit at
the time, they would have dug a hole in the ground.
They would have poured some scoria in there or some
sort of drainage material, and they would have covered it
over and over twenty years thirty forty fifty years the fine,
so just the soil would have infiltrated that and it

(46:10):
will be solid, in which case it offers no soakage
or dispersal at all anymore. So the stormwader will shoot
down the pipe into that, hit that and start flooding immediately.
So if you're adding on to your roof and you're
directing it into a system that already doesn't work, maybe

(46:30):
it's time to look at that changing that. Soakage pits
well designed and well built actually work in the right environment,
So you need to know a little bit about your
soil conditions, et cetera. Et cetera will work exceptionally well,
and I've done a couple of them that have been consented,
so they've been specifically designed during the design and build process.

(46:54):
But there's lots of detail around the geotextile cloth, the
type of material that you use inside it. I typically
will run drainage coil inside there to give it some
vol you because in these heavy downpaws, you've got this
rush of water. If it's heading the scoria, it kind
of stops and backs up, whereas if you've got as

(47:15):
I've done it a couple of times like that black Snake,
which is a drainage coil. You'd put ten or fifteen
meters of that into the air, which creates a volume,
and that's what the water goes into and then it
disperses out into the soakage pit from there. And that
been remarkably effective. Maybe not for all of your stormwater disposal,

(47:36):
but some of it. Absolutely So with considering oh, eight
hundred eighty ten eighty the number of call, and Margaret
a very good morning.

Speaker 10 (47:46):
Oh huh, thank you, thank you taking my call. I
have a garden seat which we bought for my daughter
and I founded it and painted it with Danish.

Speaker 12 (48:01):
Oil and it's got slapped back. It's very nice. They
curved flat, it went moldy, and so I bought some
prep Max and I've done it three times with prep
Max and I still have molds there. And I went

(48:26):
into Well mentioned and after advice on this and they said, look,
you can do it with an oil based or the
oil and I still get the mold through any advice,
How can I get rid of that mold because it

(48:46):
looks horrible.

Speaker 4 (48:47):
Yeah, sure, I mean I like Danash oil. I'm not
sure that I would either use it on outdoor finture,
and I presume that that's what it is. Yes, And
is it a hardwood like a queiler or something like that. Yeah,
I suppose the other thing to when you're cleaning it,

(49:08):
you want to make sure you clean it like with
a proprietary outdoor cleaner. So something that's got a bit
of ammonia in it that will actually attack the mold
rather than just cleaning the surface and leaving the mold
in place. No I used mac Okay, all right, Okay,
then I think you know, some of the oils that

(49:32):
won't provide a barrier so they soak in will also
allow the mold to find somewhere to grow. So I'm
wondering whether something that actually gives you a coating on
the outside of the furniture is going to be a
better option for you.

Speaker 12 (49:48):
Is that anything on the market that will suffocate the mold,
if you like, with a complete covering.

Speaker 4 (49:58):
I think it's more it's not about suffocating the mold.
I suppose it's providing a barrier that means the mold
doesn't have somewhere to grow. Basically, so once it's thoroughly
cleaned and dried, and then you can give it a
coat that would I mean, nothing is going ultimately, nothing's
going to resist mold.

Speaker 7 (50:16):
Right.

Speaker 4 (50:17):
It's terribly effective, but it will give you a surface
that maybe you could clean. The other thing is that
you know, for outdoor furniture, is it the sort of
thing that you treat it once a year or you
bring it inside over winter so it's not sitting outside
in winter getting saturated and not getting a lot of
sun and not drying out, and then bring it out

(50:38):
again in the summertime, and then every now and then
give it a mold treatment. I would say that something
like the Razine Woodsman range, which is a range of
timber coatings, might work really well. I'm happy to put
that forward to Bryce, who's going to be with us
in about ten minutes, to see what his thoughts are.
So stay tuned for that. But I think you know,

(51:00):
like I said, I like Danish oil, I wouldn't. I
don't know if I'd use it on outdoor furniture.

Speaker 12 (51:05):
No, I was. It was my mistake. I use it
on outdoor stuff, but it's getting rid of the molds.

Speaker 7 (51:13):
I don't.

Speaker 12 (51:14):
I said, I've used this prep max three times and
I've allowed it to dry three weeks after the first drive,
and then we've scrubbed it up again twice and it's
drying now and I've got rid of it, but it's
in between the slats. I had to buy special little
hard toothbrushes so that I could get in between.

Speaker 4 (51:37):
Fat Oh right, yes, So I mean it's.

Speaker 12 (51:41):
Been quite a job. It's taken us a long time
to clean and I I certainly don't want to be.

Speaker 5 (51:47):
Having to do that.

Speaker 12 (51:52):
Yeah, okay, but.

Speaker 4 (51:53):
If you can, I'll put it to Bryce. You stay
listening for tea manutes. We'll we'll have a quick check
with Bryce about that. Nice of you to call. Thank you.
I've found the product, so it is. It's a timber
clean and prep product. That's okay. Well, anyway, we'll ask
Bryce about that as well. Hey, Roger, greetings to you, sir.

Speaker 13 (52:16):
Yeah, very well, I said I've taken that electricians advice, yes,
and they've asked me to go to Disputure Trouble for
reasons you know why. Yes, I want to ask if
I take legal advice, which I just might, can I
pay that or at a dispute tribunal rulso over me?

(52:42):
Can I be reimbsed.

Speaker 4 (52:45):
Uh, well, I guess you could make that part of
the costs that you're claiming against the electrician that did
the work, and so you know, you might say, well, look,
you know, I'm going to claim back the cost of
the work that you've done, and I'm going and it's
in order for me to get a resolution, I've had
to pay whatever you've had to pay to a lawyer,

(53:07):
and then it will be up to the referee at
the dispute stribunal to say whether or not they accept
that claim. And if they grant, you know, they make
a judgment in your favor, then that's enforceable. And I
guess this is the other thing about going to the
dispute tribunal is that if it's found in your favor,

(53:30):
if you're successful, then the judgment is enforceable by the courts.
And that's probably the biggest advantage of going to the
dispute tribunal is that you can then go to the
courts and have the court bailiff do the basically the
debt collecting. Yes, I would like to think that the

(53:51):
person would realize that they need to make this good
and act quickly to ensure that it doesn't get to
the dispute tribunal.

Speaker 13 (54:01):
Well, you can take it to dispute.

Speaker 4 (54:07):
Oh well, then then if that's his attitude, then I'd
be inclined to take him to the dispute tribunal. And
you know, well from the one experience I've had where
I went many many many years ago as a witness,
it was actually, I won't go into the details anyway,

(54:27):
the person who was kind of there to defend the claim,
let's say, didn't turn up, and so the judge or
the adjudicator simply awarded to the person that I was
going to be acting as a witness for awarded the
costs of them. So, look, it's terribly sad to hear
it get to this point, whereas it could have just

(54:50):
been resolved or it shouldn't have happened in the first place.
But I rarely do appreciate the updates. Roger, thank you
very much for that. Remember we're going to talk to
Bryce shortly, so if you've got any specific painting questions
text them through now. But right now, Lena, good morning
to you.

Speaker 14 (55:06):
Good morning. I have a problem. At the back of
my shop. There is a fish shop and the chemists
shop next door to me. They have put new spouting
on their roofs, and they have attached their down pipes
onto my down pipes. They've actually put a connection in

(55:27):
the middle of my downpipe. Now, I've always had a
problem with the amount of water coming down at over
floats and it comes onto my back part of the
shop and I get wet feet every time I get
out of the car. Is it legal to put down
pipes onto somebody else's down pope?

Speaker 4 (55:45):
It would depend on whether or not, Like do you
own the shop?

Speaker 14 (55:50):
I own the shop, but I know the chemists shop
is rented. I'm not sure about the fish shop. But
the shop that you had a big roof, yes, So
there's a lot of water coming.

Speaker 4 (56:07):
So the shop that you own, or that the shop
that you use or the building you use for your
shop is a building that you own, yes, yes, And
so the downpipe is your downpipe, yes, and the adjacent
building is somebody else's building.

Speaker 7 (56:24):
Yes.

Speaker 4 (56:26):
I don't think that.

Speaker 14 (56:27):
They buildings two different buildings that they've joined there the
downpipe onto the middle of my downpipe. It hasn't even
gone down through to the boundary, and there is now
at this time of the year, there's amount of water
going down those roofs.

Speaker 4 (56:44):
So I think that that's cheeky is probably the nicest
way to describe it. There are there are other more
colorful ways of describing it. But I think that what
they've done is not correct, right, So they've they've taken
an easy option. They've hoped that no one would spot it.

(57:04):
But you have spotted it, and good on you. I
would be going to the owner of the company.

Speaker 14 (57:10):
So I, yeah, I think it's a wet feet that
made me notice.

Speaker 4 (57:14):
Yeah, well, yeah, you know, I mean because there's all
sorts of calculations right around roof space, size of spouting,
size of downpipes, right, so you know, we know that
a downpipe of a certain diameter will accommodate x amount
of square meters of roof. So tripling that amount and

(57:36):
putting it into one downpipe is going to overload that
downpipe most likely. So I would suggest that a phone
call to the owner of the adjacent property because they've
paid the bill, right, probably right.

Speaker 14 (57:50):
So I also want to know, is you I just
I thought that all these downpipes were into another underground
down pipe that went out onto the street connected with
the city council pipes. But am I wrong about that.
Is downpipes just going.

Speaker 4 (58:06):
In Oh no, no, no, please, please don't get the
impression that all down pipes go you know, into a
sump or or into a some sort of soakage. But
the majority would be connected to stormwater. So there's there's
different ways of controlling stormwater. Somemers you directed into the
council infrastructure. Somers you directed into the ground because you've
got good drainage into the ground. Sometimes you use a

(58:29):
tank and then you have a controlled discharge from there.
Sometimes you can do soakage p It's his any number
of ways of controlling stormwater. But certainly, and look, it's
possible that the owner of the building doesn't even realize
what their contractors have done. Right, So the contractors have
come along, they've gone, we'll put some new spouting on

(58:50):
and hey, what we'll do is we'll just cut a
socket into here, whack a a junction, plug it into
their job done.

Speaker 7 (58:56):
You know.

Speaker 14 (58:58):
Oh yeah, I'm afraid I'm bit innocent about drainages and things.
The buildings have been up since nineteen sixty six, always doom.
It's a you know, it's got a big yard back,
you know which most shopping centers have where Man, they've
got something in the middle. But I don't think it's okay.

(59:20):
It could be interesting.

Speaker 4 (59:22):
Look, and I think the first you know this, you
ring the owner of the building next door and just
go hey, look, can we have a chat about this,
because it's just been pointed out that when your guys,
when your contractors came to do the work, what they've
done is this, And I don't think they should have
And I can pretty much guarantee that that's not what

(59:42):
they should have done. There still water they collect.

Speaker 14 (59:47):
They not not politically correct. It's still legal to join
us up to my downpipe, but not politically correct.

Speaker 4 (59:56):
No, no, no, I don't think it's even legal.

Speaker 6 (59:58):
Right.

Speaker 14 (01:00:01):
Yes, I am going to get and I'm going to
talk to Thank you, go, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (01:00:07):
All right, Lena, lovely to talk to you.

Speaker 7 (01:00:10):
Okay.

Speaker 4 (01:00:12):
Oh it's just so cheeky, isn't it. I'm going to
wax some new spouting on and I'm just going to
plug it into the neighbors storm water. Oh, that'll be
a really interesting one to follow, ridy oh after the break,
Bryce is here Text three ye questions, oh wait to
nine to nine to two. Bryce from Razine along with

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us straight after.

Speaker 3 (01:00:36):
The break doing other house storting.

Speaker 1 (01:00:38):
The garden asked Pete for ahead the resident builder with
Peter wolfkep call eight.

Speaker 4 (01:00:45):
Talks'd be your news talks. He'd be our painting expert.
Bryce from Razine is with us in a very good
morning to you. Bryce, Good morning greetings. Yeah, well, a
little bit chilly this morning, and I guess that's a
good segue into the fact that you know, in some
cases we want to keep painting even in winter. So

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what are the tips and trucks there.

Speaker 7 (01:01:08):
Well, the first thing that brings to mind is that
there might be, you know, a reasonably paintable day sort
of things such a yes, there's no cloud at the moment,
but it's very cold. But depending on the surface you're painting,
you might find that the surface that you're painting is
probably a lot colder than the surrounding atmosphere. So that's
something to keep in mind when you when you're going

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to put some paint on something, you just have to
think and yeah, because it's a lot colder, your paint
system is not going to gure properly, might even might
even run off if it gets hit by a dew
or something like that.

Speaker 4 (01:01:46):
So are there like editives you can add to paint.
You've got to be cautious with the additives.

Speaker 7 (01:01:52):
A yeah, you've got to follow the direction right carefully.
We do have winter grade additive that you can put
into water board paints. Yes, we also have one called
umbrella additives that you can add if you suspecting that
there might be a very light shower coming. But never
mixed the two editors together.

Speaker 4 (01:02:12):
Right, Okay, one or the other.

Speaker 7 (01:02:18):
It was very sick, so a gooey mess. Right.

Speaker 4 (01:02:23):
I tell you what I was.

Speaker 9 (01:02:24):
I was.

Speaker 4 (01:02:25):
I've been doing some work at the back of my place,
which is replacing balustrades. Right, So I did the bulk
of the painting inside the workshop and then I installed
the balustrades the other day, filled all of the holes
where i'd fix them to the posts, and then I
was painting the top rails. Now, this was on a Saturday,
a couple a week or so ago. It was a

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really lovely day. I was amazed at like I was thinking, well,
because it's winter and it's you know, it hasn't been
fantastic weather, I'll be able to paint at like one
o'clock in the afternoon, admittedly north facing, but it was
amazing how quickly, you know, Like typically I'd always not
paint in direct sunlight, and I thought, middle of winter,
why not, But it was. It was going off so fast.

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It's quite amazing. Even in middle of winter, still goes
off pretty quick if it's in direct sunlight.

Speaker 7 (01:03:17):
Yes, yeah, yeah, even then when you know, if it
feels dry, yeah, on the surface, it's it's still doing
its business underneath it, right, It takes a little while
for the process to work. Yeah, so you know, that's
why another reason that you should stop it around about
one o'clock, two o'clock maybe the latest in the wintertime,

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because once the dew settles on it, you know, if
it's not cured properly, that can affect it as well.

Speaker 4 (01:03:44):
Yeah, well that was the interesting thing sort of what
you know, waiting in the morning for the jew to evaporate. Basically,
it was probably about eleven o'clock before it looked like
it was reasonably dry and a little bit warmer, and
then by the time i'd prepped it and got some
paint on it, it was it was well drying. So
but yeah, I did stop. I hope early enough, but
I'll do my top coat on a day where prepsic

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is not as much drig sunlight.

Speaker 7 (01:04:08):
And you know, maybe just a nice gentle breeze as well, or.

Speaker 4 (01:04:14):
Okay, well it might even be today. Right, let's get
into a couple of texts. Morning. Can you tell me
what is the best product for painting outdoor steps to
prevent slipping? Is it as effective as buying those strips
that you put down on each of the steps. So
let's assume that these are timber steps. Let's say, what

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will you do to get some anti slip on there.

Speaker 7 (01:04:40):
Well, we do have a water borne paving paint called
walk on, which is incredibly non slip. Wow, I've got
more front concrete steps painted in it, and they're exposed
to the weather and they get water settling on them.
It remains pretty much non slip. But it's quite good

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with the timber steps. Obviously, you'll have to do the
correct preparation to make sure the timber is nice and dry,
of course, and you know any bossom mold checks for
that and based wood private depending on the timber.

Speaker 4 (01:05:17):
And that's called walk on, yes, because this is one
of the in fact, sometimes now with building consents and
sign offs. Council. If you know, like it's an older
style house and you've got some timber steps like I
do at home, and it sounds like you do as well,
council will actually ask what have you done to ensure
that it's got some sort of slip resistance, so that

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walk on could be the solution there, I.

Speaker 7 (01:05:43):
Mean, you could. You can add more grit if you wish.
You know, a lot of people will broadcast over the
top of the coating while it's still wet so that
it actually adheres to the coating, and then you can
actually seal it in with another coat to give yourself
a bit more slip resistance if you feel that you

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need to.

Speaker 4 (01:06:03):
Yeah, I've done that, but I tend to mark like
a little strip. So I'll do a first coat, then
I'll mask it. Then I'll broadcast some sand into that area.
We'll mix up like a paint paste with the sand
in some of the paint that I'm using, and then
go over the top again. And you know, it's kind
of neat that way as well.

Speaker 6 (01:06:22):
Now.

Speaker 4 (01:06:22):
Actually, just prior to this, we were talking with Margaret
who had some quila outdoor furniture and actually they ended
up using like a Danish oil to treat it. But
of course that's not providing a barrier to mold. So
if you were looking to clean and prep some outdoor
furniture and then give it a coat that would prevent

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mold growth, what would you do?

Speaker 7 (01:06:48):
I would probably, you know, now that they've used an oil,
you know, you're really sort of stuck with the using
an oil, right, Yeah, you can't put normal stains or
you know, like a film form and coating over the
top of it. I would think depending on the properties
of the oil, it may be that the mold regards
the Danish oil as food to grow on it quite

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quite rapidly. You know. There's all sorts of things that
can happen. I would probably, you know, just give it
a gingle moss and mold treatment every so often, and
give it a hose down, you know, and and a
light brushing to remove all the dead mold and dust
and dirt and stuff like that, and then re oil.

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It's it's with timber and oils and things like that.
It's best to carry on with.

Speaker 4 (01:07:36):
What you started with, right, Okay, So that might be
quite difficult to change. It's that whole systems thing, isn't it.
Once you've started a system, particularly for outdoors, you need
to stay with that system.

Speaker 7 (01:07:48):
Yes, exactly, okay, same with timber decks and yeah, and
at a like a stained house or a mineral oiled
house or you know, just stick with what you've got
and you'll be you won't have any problems. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:08:01):
Sure, someone who has John has a textured plaster ceiling
and has had a pot of oil fire in the kitchen,
is there a paint that I can use to save
me cleaning it?

Speaker 9 (01:08:13):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:08:13):
It sounds like the oil on the cook top has
had or crowded a bit of a fire. There's probably
a bit of smoke damage on the ceiling. What's the
remediation there?

Speaker 7 (01:08:24):
Well, you'd have to if it's a texted ceiling, obviously
it's going to be quite difficult to clean. Yes, you
need some sort of material cleaning to remove the grease
and soot then whatever the fire has created on the ceiling.

(01:08:46):
We do have a product or HEAVGD paint prep and degreaser,
which you know we'll probably do that for You Just
need a soft bristle brush, mix it with water and
scrub that away. Let it dry, and I would consider
going to oil based sure seal once you've cleaned the
ceiling to a point that it'll accept paint, yes, and

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then you know, a couple of coats of you know,
you know, well, obviously it might not be a ceiling
flat in the kitchen. It might be a semi gloss
or something like that, and just recoat over the shoes sell.

Speaker 4 (01:09:21):
Okay, brilliant. He's an interesting one. And this is like
most of us who have got some old paint left
over in the shed and out the back and under
the house. How long does unused paint in a plastic
container last.

Speaker 7 (01:09:36):
Depends on how well it was sealed right, and if
the you know, if it's you know, the half a
bucket or something like that, you know, there's always a
chance that you'll get a sort of creeping under the
lid and stuff like that. So I've heard tell some
people put a layer of greaseproof paper on top of

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the paint before they seal the bucket. Either that or
once they've hammered the lid on, they turn it upside down, yes,
which is which is a little bit dangerous, just in
case you get a leak or something like that there.

Speaker 14 (01:10:13):
Is.

Speaker 7 (01:10:13):
There is obviously a cut off period that you know
paint will last in a bucket. You know, if you
take the lid off and it really starts to smell
yes bad, then you know that's a very good indication.
But it depends, you know, it's it really depends on
how well it was stored and sealed in the first place.

Speaker 4 (01:10:32):
Right, But I think certainly if it smells bad, it's
time to bring it in and take it in for recycling.

Speaker 7 (01:10:40):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:10:41):
Absolutely, Yeah, someone who has an open fireplace with the
bricks around, can the bricks be painted successfully? At the
top the bricks do get a little bit hot? I
suppose the other option is tiling. But if you did
want to paint it, accepting the fact that you'll see
smoke damage over time painting bricks inside, what would you do?

Speaker 7 (01:11:02):
It depends on the type of brick, but just a
normal flat, unglazed brick, then you know out with the
shore seal again to seal off the bricks, and that
I would I would just use a standard of cuillock
over the top, you know, like lumberside or something like that,
something that's easy to recope and just keep things looking
good and it's got a low gloss level, so you

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don't want you know, you don't want something too shiny
or on a brick setter, so I wouldn't imagine.

Speaker 4 (01:11:29):
Right, that's fantastic, and i'll tell you what. We've actually
got someone who's phoned through, so we'll see if we
can get Allen on the line as well, which I
can't do. Unfortunately, I haven't got the conference sorted out.
Another quick question then, someone who's recoating native timber floors
with razine polyurethane. It's been so cold we've been holding

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off doing the last couple of rooms. What are the
rules around temperature when applying polyurethane paint?

Speaker 7 (01:11:59):
Well, again, it depends on the poly earthing, right, there
are a number of I mean, there's moist cured poly
eurythinge for instance, that we we sell, but we don't
sell too much of it anymore. But we also have
water bon one K and two K polyurothanes. I would

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consult the data sheets on those, you know too, for
admittimum temperature and stuff like that. If it's a really
cold room or something like that, Yes, you may get
some affection, you know, some some areas affected, but you
know inside it's you know, if you can introduce some
some warmth from another room and just have a bit

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of you know, extraction and ventilation, it might be all right.
But I would follow the instructions on the data sheet
for each individual product.

Speaker 4 (01:12:51):
Okay, yeah, and the.

Speaker 7 (01:12:54):
Data sheets are available on our website. You just have
to step to look for them, and you can download
them and print as many copies.

Speaker 4 (01:13:01):
As you want, or just save it to your phone
and read it that way. Let's see if we can
do this. Ellen, Hey, you've got a question for Bryce
as well.

Speaker 15 (01:13:09):
A question with three parts go. First of all, I
plan to repaint my house with a leastromeric paint. It's
monolithic polystyrene, and I've got the calculations for the dimensions
of the house. But how much you know, how much
paint would I require to paint ninety three point one
two meters squared.

Speaker 4 (01:13:32):
About seventeen square meters per liter as the coverage? A ah, Now,
what's happened is that Bryce has now gone on hold,
so which means that I'm answering the questure, which is terrible.
Just just stay where you are there, we'll do this
Bryce coverage. Let's say yeah, well, inadvertently. To be fair,

(01:13:55):
I don't know why I haven't been able to conference this.
Let me see, I've tried. I've tried. Hey, it's coverage, right,
so something like x two hundred roughly seventeen square meters
elita or is that a bit too much?

Speaker 7 (01:14:10):
It's a lot lower than that. It's two hundred.

Speaker 12 (01:14:14):
Ye.

Speaker 7 (01:14:15):
The first coat is five square meters e liter. Wow, okay,
and the second coat is seven and a half, so
a ten liter bucket. You know, first coat you'd get
fifty squares out of it, second coat another ten lead
seventy five squares. But if you're doing a true elastimeric,

(01:14:36):
which in our case is a product called Flexi cover, e, yes,
you'll probably only get one to two. Maybe you could
stretch it to five, but one to two square meters
a liter. Right, let's go on very very you know,
because it goes on very very very thick. It's you know,
you could stand a spade up in it if you
put it, you know, put it into a bucket. It's

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that thick.

Speaker 4 (01:14:57):
For allen you know, for a let's say, relatively conventional
monolithic clad house, would you go the Elasta America or
would you just the X two hundred.

Speaker 7 (01:15:07):
I would just go X two hundred. It's a lot
easier to use, and if there's no cracks and no movement,
you probably won't need the last of merit. Arlaster merricks
are quite different from X two hundred, But I would
you know, X two hundred is fantastic. Probably I would
go that way, all right.

Speaker 4 (01:15:26):
Now. I know has other question because it's here on
the notes, was around mixing unused paint with new paint.
Would you ever do that? Like if you've got half
a ton of something and then you buy a new
turn of the same paint, would you box them together?

Speaker 7 (01:15:43):
Well, I mean, if the exactly the same product, you
probably could if it was in good condition. If it's
a lumpy and horrible stuff like that, I wouldn't even bother.
But providing there exactly the same product, you should be
able to mix the two together, because you know the well,

(01:16:04):
it's it's the same product obviously so compedible.

Speaker 4 (01:16:07):
But if you've got one ten that's ten years old
and it's been sitting in the garden shed. As much
as I'm keen on recycling, that's not a wise thing
to do. And I'll tell you what Sorry to drop
you in this, but the other day someone phoned through.
They were wanting to get a contractor to come and

(01:16:29):
do some work, and they accepted the fact that they
didn't know a lot about exterior painting and were unsure
about what products they should use and so on. So
you know, they were going to engage a contractor, but
they wanted to get some advice about the overall job.
And so what I said is go along and talk
to someone at the color shop and they might even

(01:16:50):
be able to come out and do a bit of
consultancy to say, Okay, I've seen the house, this is
the type of primer you need, or this is your
prep this is your primer, this is your top coat,
and then sort of help with creating a specification that
you could give to a contractor. That is something that
the Razine team would be able to do, isn't it.

Speaker 7 (01:17:10):
Yeah. I write specifications for people in it all the time. Okay,
it gives them, gives them a black and white document
that explains, you know, the preferation process linked to the
preparation pages and things like that. Yes, Plus it's something
you can you can stick in the Concertenophile for the
next time you paint, when you came exactly what you

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put on the house, I suppose good idea to write
the colors down on the front.

Speaker 4 (01:17:37):
Yes, well absolutely. The other I guess the other benefit
too is let's say you are going to do a
repaint on the house, and that can be a significant
investment that you could have that prepared by someone like
yourself is essentially independent. And then that document goes out
to the people who might be quoting for the work,
so they're all they've all got the same spec sheet
to work from. This is what I want you to do,

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and then when the quotes come in, they should all
have covered off everything you've asked them to do.

Speaker 7 (01:18:04):
Yep. It's easy enough to generally, if I prepare a specification,
I will email it to the owner. Yep. If I
haven't engaged any contractors, then we can you know, we
can nominate some guys and email them.

Speaker 3 (01:18:18):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:18:18):
Brilliant, Yeah, brilliant. That's awesome. Hey, Bryce, thank you very
much as always for your sage advice. Appreciate it. Take
care your new STALKSZB that's Bryce from Razine And like
I say that, that was a one of those conversations
that kind of stuck in the back of my mind.
So you know, if you are going to get contractors
come and do work. Let's say you've committed to I'm

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going to repaint the house, and you can go to
Razine get them to give you some assistance in terms
of preparing a scope of works. Then you've got a
document that you can send out to the contractors to
ensure that all of them are quoting for the same thing.
I think that's that's tremendous assistance, right he seven forty six,

(01:19:01):
seven forty seven. Rather here at new STALKSB a break
and then we're back.

Speaker 1 (01:19:04):
With Kirsty, whether you're fixing fens or wondering how to
fix that hole in the wall. Give Peedo Wolf capicle
on eight the resident builder on youth Dogs B.

Speaker 4 (01:19:18):
Quick text as well, just on the similar sort of
thing to the earlier questions about painting and sign So
a painted garage floor and in a section near an
internal wall external wall rather the paint has flaked and
there's this white cotton candy like growth appearing. Can this
be sealed? What is it?

Speaker 7 (01:19:37):
So?

Speaker 4 (01:19:37):
That's effhorescence. That's essentially the salts that are in masonry
being activated and pushed to that inside surface by moisture
on the outside. So yeah, something you can remove it,
typically with like an acid essentially or a specialist masonry cleaner.

(01:19:58):
Often when you remove it, a little bit might come
back and then a little bit less unless there's evidence
of leaking on the outside, and then you've got to
look at sealing it. But you can clean it and
then you can paint that area, but there is a
small chance it might come back as well. Right, we
can take another short break and then we'll be back.

Speaker 1 (01:20:15):
With Kirsty squeaky door or it's squeakie floor. Get the
right advice from Peter Wolfcare, the resident builder.

Speaker 4 (01:20:22):
On news Talks, AB Yeah, news talks. Remember we've got
news top of the hour and then after the news.
Actually we'd be talking to a couple of the people
who are behind to Qui Meyer which is a charitable
trust looking to support service personnel and first responders and
they've got a fantastic action. But you can look it

(01:20:43):
up now to Quimara dot co dot nz Meyer rather
and we'll have more information about that after the news.
Remember at eight thirty as well. Kirsty, good morning, good.

Speaker 16 (01:20:56):
Morning, Hey, thanks for waiting that's all right. This is
probably a really simple and obvious answer to this question.
But my mother has a iron roof, lives in a
coastal area to store house, and it's about eighteen years old.
But the iron is looking good, but we can see
that the nails, but there's rusty nails in the roof,

(01:21:19):
and just what she has various ideas that he could
do this is it it's best to get a roofing
company to come in and do that. And is there
anything specific they should be looking out for.

Speaker 4 (01:21:33):
I mean, look, the advantage of getting a roofing company
or a roofing professional and is that you know they're
familiar with it. They're familiar working at heights, which is important,
and they would simply come along, hopefully they've got the
right gear, pull those nails out as directly as you
possibly can so you don't end up making a bigger
hole through the roofing sheet and then replacing those nails

(01:21:56):
with screws which will hold better and tend to and
have a little near prem washer underneath them. So and
if you needed to, you could all aways asked them
to do a little bit of really modest rust treatment
if they see some corrosion around the penetration. But pulling
the nail out replacing with a screw is quite a
good preventative maintenance thing to do.

Speaker 16 (01:22:19):
I can that the main So the main thing is
that they pull them out directly.

Speaker 4 (01:22:23):
Yeah, that's the key. And if you're doing yourself, that's
that's one of the real challenges.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
Good luck with that helping you get those DIY projects
done right. The resident builder with Peta Wolfgant call oh
eight eight youth Talk ZB.

Speaker 4 (01:22:38):
Yeah, News TALKSZB Welcome back to the show. Oh eight
hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call? It's
been a real variety today, sheds, townhouses, boundaries, property law,
garden sheds again, range hoods, downpipes. Cheeky Bugger is the
day award? Maybe that could be an award going forward.
Cheeky Bugger of the Day was not Leana herself, but

(01:23:02):
the story that she had where she has a shop
which is adjacent to a number of other shops and
the contractors that came to maybe do some roofing and
put some new spouting on the adjacent shops then took
the down pipe from the new spouting that they'd installed
and simply cut a tea into her downpipe and directed

(01:23:24):
all of their water into her downpipe. That would be
the inaugural Cheeky Bugger of the Day or the Week award.
That could actually be a thing until someone objects about
the terminology. But either way, that's not acceptable to be blunt.
But we have talked a lot about storm water and

(01:23:45):
so on. So if you've got a question that you'd
like answered, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
that number to call. My thanks to Bryce again from
Razine for being part of the show. And before we
go and chat with Rude at eight point thirty, I'm
going to be talking with Megan and Rebecca who are
part of an organization called Tikiwi Maya so te Kewekiwi

(01:24:09):
and then Maia. You can find them online. They're having
an auction. The reason that I got to hear about
this is someone rang me and said, look, there's an
auction coming up and there is a minor dwelling that's
going to be auctioned off. Would you be interested in
talking about that? And since we talk about minor dwellings
quite a bit, I thought, yeah for sure, and then

(01:24:31):
I realized what the charity is and thought, well, we'll
have a bit of a chat with them. This is
Garala bit so you can find all of this information
find their website. Click on the link you can go
through to the auction. There's actually quite a number of
other really interesting things there as well. So but this
little holly a charming one bedroom cottage is up for auction.

(01:24:51):
It looks pretty cool. So we've talked to Rebecca and
Meghan about that a little bit later on this morning
before we go to If you've got a question, oh,
eight one hundred and eighty ten eighty is that number
to call? Also, just to be clear, because we're I
was describing situation, and I actually I had a look
at one of these a little while ago, where I'd

(01:25:12):
been asked to go and look at a property that
had persistent issues with leaking into a basement, which is
not uncommon. As it happened adjacent where the leak was
evident inside the building, there was a downpipe. The downpipe
was connected to stormwater that went into the ground, but
judging by the age of the building, I wasn't really
convinced that the storm water was going somewhere, and so

(01:25:36):
suggested to the homeowner that they get in someone like
drain works who come and do a video survey, put
the camera down there, follow it along. Find that there's
you know, clay tiles, there's a little bit of root
and gress, there's a few broken junctions, that sort of thing.
But eventually, after about ten meters or so going out
into the garden, it just stopped. And what I suspect is,

(01:25:57):
given the age of the house, there used to be
a soakage pit there, which it's a hole in the
ground with some drainage material into it. That's what the
stormwater was direct it into. But as happens with these things,
they end up being just completely full of sediment, in
which case they stop accepting any drainage. Right, So the

(01:26:18):
stormwater from this would have gone down ten to twelve
meters of pipe and then simply hit the mud basically,
So that's not working. But that you know, that's not
the only way people manage stormwater. So most stormwater goes
to council lines to infrastructure that's out at the road.
Might be a curb discharge, but councils are less and
less accepting of those anymore. It might be a curb discharge,

(01:26:42):
but via a water tank. So if you do a
detention tank on the property which takes the volume of
water from a downpour, holds it and then releases it
slowly over time, that might go to the curb discharge.
And if you drive along in an urban area, you know,
and the rain might have stopped two or three hours ago,
but you'll still see water exiting out into the curb.

(01:27:05):
That's often from a rainwater tank, like a decent sized
bailey one or something like that that will hold water
and then discharge slowly through a smaller outlet into the
stormwater line. And of course, if fact gets inundated, there's
an overflow and it goes directly to the line. So
multiple ways of controlling stormwater, all of which is important

(01:27:26):
because as either homeowners or property owners, it's our responsibility
to control the storm water that discharges from our property.
That's increasingly relevant when we're now talking about, you know,
garden sheds and the like from the end of this year,
being able to build. If it's ten square meters or less,
you can put it right on the boundary or adjacent

(01:27:49):
to the boundary, which means if it's got a sloping
roof and the water's heading to your neighbor and you
don't have any spouting. It's going on too the neighbors,
isn't it. It should have spouting, should be connected to
stormwater or have some sort of management of it. But
let's be realistic. How many do So if you go
down you buy a eight square meter garden shed and

(01:28:13):
assemble it, what are you doing with the storm water? Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
mark good morning to you, very well, thank you, good,
good good.

Speaker 7 (01:28:25):
And I just got a question.

Speaker 8 (01:28:27):
We've got to we've raised our house up to one
point five meters, all after Gabriel, and just obviously decks
need balustrade.

Speaker 6 (01:28:38):
They do the steps?

Speaker 8 (01:28:40):
Can they just have a handrail or do they need
to be bellustrated as well.

Speaker 4 (01:28:46):
Depending on the height of the stairs. So the whole
rule around prevention from falling right, which is a section
of the Building Code in the Building Act, is to
prevent a fall from a height of a meter or more. So,
if for example, your deck is at one point three
meters and your stairs go to one point three at

(01:29:06):
a certain point you'll get to a meter and you'll
be able to fall off the stairs. So that section
of the stairs would require a balustrade to prevent falling,
the balance of it would just require a handrail, and
the handrails required once you have more than two and
a half rises.

Speaker 8 (01:29:24):
Yeah, okay, brilliant, thank you.

Speaker 4 (01:29:26):
Yeah, so that's that's kind of where the guidelines are.

Speaker 8 (01:29:29):
Yeah, yeah, as well, balustrade the whole thing.

Speaker 4 (01:29:32):
Yeah, pretty much. It's going to look a bit weird
to have balustrades on just one part of your stairs. Yeah, absolutely, Yeah,
good luck with that, Matt, thanks mate, all best. She
would have been interesting to talk more about, you know,
the practicalities of raising your house, because that if you're
talking about storm water and stormwater management and resilience and
so on. I reckon that's the sort of thing that
more and more people are going to have to do.

(01:29:53):
Interesting text from Lisa. What if your property is below
the street for storm water? Look, in many cases, you
know when subdivisions are developed, even older ones, we know
that typically water likes to go downhill. So what you
might find is that the council infrastructure is located at
the lower part of the property. So you might have

(01:30:16):
a row of houses alongside a road. The road is
higher and when the development takes place, the council infrastructure
or the storm order will be installed at the lower
part so that there will be like a public line
running across the backyard of multiple properties so that you
can plug your stormwater into it. If that's not the case,
then typically you need to discharge your stormwater into a chamber,

(01:30:42):
and then the chamber needs a pump which pumps it
out to a point where it gets gravity fed into
the storm water line. As you can imagine, with more
and more flooding and so on, council and have raised
the requirements for that. So I remember doing it a
couple of years ago. It was a smallest chamber with

(01:31:02):
a pump in it and an alarm. If you did
it today, it would probably need to be a bigger chamber.
It probably has to have two pumps in it so
that in the event that there's failure, the other one
can take over and the alarm that sounds if the
pump is not working for some reason. So that's interesting.
Oh eight, one hundred and eighty ten eighty the number Keith, greetings.

Speaker 17 (01:31:24):
KDa, how are you?

Speaker 13 (01:31:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:31:25):
Very well, thinks.

Speaker 6 (01:31:27):
I've got a question.

Speaker 17 (01:31:28):
I've got a house that's ninety five years old, and
I say mink condition. And since we've painted all the outside,
the roof, done, the jerb and everything else in the house,
how do I do the spraying for bora when it's
got insulation underneath the floor?

Speaker 4 (01:31:46):
Yeah, because you know the borer. If you spray a product,
you're only going to get a limited amount of penetration
where that insulation is.

Speaker 7 (01:31:53):
Isn't correct.

Speaker 17 (01:31:56):
I don't see a lot of borer evidence underneath their house.
But I want to be proactors, not reactive. So that's why.
How do I need to take all this insallation ops
to spray underneath or so I spray the insulation that
will kill the bor in a way?

Speaker 4 (01:32:14):
I wonder if as a first approach, you did some
sort of treatment, leaving the insulation in place, seeing whether
in the next season. And we're coming up to BORI
season fairly soon, about a month's time or so, because
that's the time to treat it, so it's a perfect timing, right,
so you have a look and maybe I'll ask Rude
about this as well. So ideally you'd want to treat

(01:32:38):
soon and then have a look next to you to
see whether there's any evidence and if you need to
do more treatment, which might involve pulling out that insulation.

Speaker 17 (01:32:48):
So if I spray the insulation, let's say we really
as a very narrow underneath the house, so I ever
get something nice and skinny to get underneath the house,
how well spray the insulation wouldn't rock the wood anyway,
but it should suffocate the boro.

Speaker 4 (01:33:05):
If I'm career, Yeah, and I think it's all about timing.
And I'll stay if you can stay listening for a bit,
and I'll ask Rood about timing for bora treatment given
that they're on the wing sometime in the next couple
of months.

Speaker 17 (01:33:18):
Yeah, because I've done everything possible, Like we've sprayed inside
the house, because you saw a little bit of war
in the wardrobes. Underneath the house, we've seen a little
bit of evidence. But underneath the insulation, I haven't pulled
off all the insulation, and that would be a nightmare
of it.

Speaker 4 (01:33:35):
It would be a big job. And then putting it
back in properly and all the rest of it gets
really really challenging. If you can stay listening, and I'll
ask that question over it when we get to rid
shortly back in a.

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day someone approached me and said, look, I'm aware of
a charity that's doing an auction and one of the
things that they're auctioning is a tiny home and that
might be of interest to your listeners. And I thought, yeah,

(01:35:16):
that's fair enough. But then I had a look at
what the charity actually is and it's Kiwi Maya. And
so this morning with me is Meghan and Rebecca, who
are founders of this charity. Very good morning, and thanks
for a bit of time this morning.

Speaker 18 (01:35:31):
Hey you're winning, Pete. Thank you for having us.

Speaker 4 (01:35:33):
It's a pleasure. Hey, look, this is something that maybe
people don't know too much about. So if we want
to know a little bit about Qui Wei Meyer, tell
us what is what's the motivation behind this particular charity.

Speaker 18 (01:35:46):
Yeah, hi, Pete, it's Rebecca here.

Speaker 7 (01:35:49):
Hi.

Speaker 19 (01:35:50):
So kiu We Maya is a charity set up for
our first responders defense and their families were our Meghan
and I are raw New Zillain maybe and we've been
serving for over gosh over ten years now, both of us,
and we just saw that there was a major need
for how for wellbeing, for our people and for our
first responders. So we created this charity and programs where

(01:36:13):
we look after our people and we take them away.

Speaker 4 (01:36:16):
It sounds fantastic and I really encourage people to check
it out online. So it's Quimya dot co dot m Z. Obviously,
charities need money, and so you've put together a dinner
which is on Wednesday night. Looks amazing out at the
Mote Aviation Hall. But also running this auction, so it's

(01:36:37):
via galibit. So you can go to the website then
click on the auction and one of the things you've
got there is this well basically little tiny house which
is up for grabs.

Speaker 18 (01:36:49):
Yes, we have Holly, which is a little transportable cottage
who has been donated to us by Craig Walker Building
Removal to are out in QMU. They're really big supporters
of Defense Force and also of what we are doing. Yeah,
and they thought that Holly might be something fun and
a bit different for an option.

Speaker 4 (01:37:07):
I mean it's it's a lot for what might be. Well,
let's hope that it goes for a hell of a
lot of money. But we're talking a bedroom, a bathroom,
an open planned living area, a little compact kitchen in there.
It's it's obviously transportable, it's ready to go. And I
have to say I looked at that and then I
kind of clicked on the all items and then I

(01:37:27):
saw a whole bunch of other items, including you know,
a electric truck. That's pretty impressive.

Speaker 18 (01:37:35):
Yeah, Keith Andrews have given us a Fuso eken to
electric truck in that one at a dollar reserves. The
tiny home in the truck can actually be bit on nationwide. Yes,
but anyone around the country camp be on that and
that closed at ten pm on Wednesday night.

Speaker 4 (01:37:50):
And Wednesday night is the night of the dinner yest. Yeah, fantastic.
So again, people, there's all sorts of auction items, and
given your contacts within the defense and the police and
so on, there's some pretty cool stuff like this maritime
patrol experience on the dead so you can go out
on that for a five hundred dollar bid. You can

(01:38:12):
practice driving a warship. That sounds pretty cool.

Speaker 5 (01:38:16):
Yeah.

Speaker 18 (01:38:16):
We've got a couple of simulator experiences and they're so one
from the Navy. We've got a couple of helicopter simulators
so the seat site which is the Naval helicopter but
also the Westpac Rescue Helicopter base. There's a simulator there,
there's an experience for that. If you want to be
a grounde for a day in Hamilton at Centam Park
or the main Rugby stadium, you can join kJ there

(01:38:38):
and choose whatever game or event you want to go
to and be a grundy with the team for a day. Yeah,
we've got a lot of a wide variety of auction
items up for grabs, but then we've got some live
on the night there's an exclusive dining experience with Michael
Dirth will be shipping and Joseph Parker will be hosting.

(01:38:59):
You can ride in the Police Eagle helicopter and there's
a really cool hunting experience actually as well, so.

Speaker 4 (01:39:05):
Really wide range and this allows the trust to and
the charity to do the work that you do. So again,
just you know what's the sort of classic example of
the work that you're involved in, and again this is
about supporting defense personnel and first responders who you know
are given that you see a whole lot of stuff
that most of us probably wouldn't see in our lives,
and that takes a toll. What's the nature of the

(01:39:29):
support that you're able to offer.

Speaker 19 (01:39:32):
Yeah, So we created a program here in New Zealand
where we take away twelve first responders and defense personnel
away for six days and we bring in all the
specialists and wrap around them. So we bring in the
clinical psychologists, the rural art practitioners, personal train and nutritionists,
sleep specialist and also trauma based yoga. And what we're
doing is helping them learn about themselves, start going through

(01:39:55):
the process of what they've gone through, but also just
helping them on their next part of their journey, and
that's to live their booth lives that they can and
heal together rather than it a silo. It's really important
so that people realize that, you know, everyone in this
field are going through the same thing. And I think
what people don't understand is that our first responders and

(01:40:17):
defense they see more trauma and a week than what
an average person would see in their lifetime.

Speaker 4 (01:40:23):
Yeah, and you can be as tough as you like,
but it's going to take a toll, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (01:40:29):
Oh.

Speaker 19 (01:40:29):
Absolutely, it'll catch up at some point. And I think
the thing is what we are really really keen on
is the preventative work. Sure our people do not need
to get PTSD if we wrap around them and give
them the tools and the knowledge and everything so that
they can you know, learn and develop and take time
out when they need to.

Speaker 16 (01:40:46):
To, as I said, live their best lives.

Speaker 7 (01:40:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:40:49):
Absolutely, Hey, look check it out online. Have a look.
So the best way to find your way to the
auction if you want to bid on some of these items,
I think is to go to your website, which is
Qiwi Meyer. That's Kiwi Maia dot co dot Nz. Click
on the link through to the auction. There's the min
are dwelling, there's all of these other really fantastic things,

(01:41:09):
and there's the dinner. I wish you every success and
thanks for reaching out.

Speaker 18 (01:41:15):
Thank you so much for having us peak.

Speaker 4 (01:41:16):
It's a pleasure you take care all of us. Megan.
Thank you. Have a look at it online, folks. So
that's to Qui Meyer m Aia dot co dot Nz.
And there are links through to the auction and I
really hope that this goes incredibly well for them. And
through Galabid you can bid from anywhere in the country
for most of those auction items. It's very tempting. I

(01:41:39):
have to say, Rdio, let's jump into the garden. I
think let's go for RUD. Let's see what's happening, because
apparently the gardens are waking up. This was RUD yesterday
with Jack talking about things that we can start to
do and based on Keith's comments a moment ago is
if you think you've got a problem with Bora, is

(01:41:59):
now the time to start planning given that Bora are
on the wing fairly soon? I wait one hundred eighty
if he'd like to talk to rout back in a moment.

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