Full Show Podcast: 21 December 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
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Speaker 6 (01:27):
Yeah, well, very very good morning, and welcome along to
the Resident Builder on Sunday, on this Sunday the let
me see, I'm just trying to figure it.

Speaker 2 (01:45):
Out now twenty first of December, which of course means
that we are just days away from Christmas. So I
trust that your preparations are going well if you, like
many people that I know, would be fairly frantic either
trying to get projects finished, trying to get the right
materials on site, rounding up subcontractors, or whether you got

(02:06):
to the end of last week and when look, if
it's not going to happen now, it's just not going
to happen either way. If you've got a project that
you would like to talk about, or a project that
maybe you're considering doing between Christmas New Year or over
the Christmas New Year holidays, we can talk about that.
We can talk about legislation, we could even it's sort
of kind of a reflective time of year as well,

(02:30):
look back over the year some significant changes. I think
in a couple of years time when we look back
on changes to building legislation and so on, this will
be a year where a lot of things changed. Interesting
to keep up to date with sort of current discussion.
I guess around some of these changes, not all of
them being met with unanimous approval. In terms of the

(02:55):
whole home warranty scheme, how's it going to work? Will
the policies be available, Will contractors actually find that they'll
be able to get the cover that they need. There's
a whole lot of things around the legislation. Inevitably, at
this time of year, there will also be a whole
lot of things where you'll be wondering, you know, what
projects can I get done, what can I what can

(03:17):
I tackle? Maybe even at this time of year, we
might be thinking about those last minute stocking stuffers as well,
things that you might want to add to the Christmas
stocking for the person that you love who I guess
if you're giving it, you're also kind of hoping that
they will they'll get some jobs done. Rightio, The lines
are open as always. It is eight hundred and eighty

(03:40):
ten eighty. You can text as well. That's nine two
nine two from your mobile phone and if you'd like
to email me, well you're more than welcome to do
that as well. It's Pete at Newstalk SEDB so Pete
at NEWSTALKSEB dot co dot Nz. Now if it sounds
a little bit different on the show today, well that's

(04:02):
partly because I am on the other side of the world.
So in order to get back here where I'm currently
broadcasting from today, as a family, we were out and
about in London Town to Islington, then took the bus
down to Charing Cost Cross, hopped off at what is

(04:23):
it Leicester Square? I think it is bottom of town.
I left the family because they were off to see
a show at the West End. I did a bit
of a loop out towards Tower Bridge, came back to Westminster,
hopped off the tube at Westminster and made a beeline
for Bayswater, which is where we're staying at the moment.
Took me a leisurely sort of hour and a bit

(04:44):
to walk basically from Westminster pass Bucking Dallas, through Hyde
Park then you go through Kensington Park to here. So
that was my aft to do. And I have to say,
absolutely glorious weather. Ten twelve degrees. Ten degrees maybe class guys.

(05:04):
We had a bit of rain the other day, but
beautiful for walking. Lots of people out and about. I
think even the Brits themselves are kind of pinching themselves,
going criky. It's almost the shortest day of the year.
It should be cold, it should be miserable, it should
be raining, all of those sorts of things, and it's not.
So I am more than happy that the weather is

(05:25):
to be fair, possibly better than the weather that I
would have had if I had stayed at home. Anyway. Now,
a couple of actually a couple of interesting things over
the last couple of days. People that I've been chatting
with and so on. To give some scale, I guess
as to when we talk about productivity, when we talk
about housing affordability, when we're talking about ramping up the

(05:46):
number of houses that we can build. I was at
a function a couple of days ago with someone who
works for a large housing firm in New Zealand. So
I think at the moment we probably have done maybe
in a year, maybe twenty twenty two thousand houses roughly.
Building consensor down there used to be up and the well, sorry,

(06:07):
they were in the high fifties couple of years ago,
they've dropped down into the thirties. We're probably hovering around that.
The person that I was speaking to, the firm that
they're involved with, they do twenty thousand houses a year
just their company. So the scale is just phenomenal. But
I also I was wandering. I've done a lot of walking,

(06:28):
which I really enjoy in a big city, any big
city really, and watching other people work has been really
fascinating as well. So on a fairly cold, miserable day
a couple of days ago, where there's much better today,
I was watching some people trying to finish some exterior
render on an old house, and then I was looking

(06:50):
at that thinking Craigy like, it's ten o'clock. The sun's
only just come up. You've got about four hours before
the sun starts to go down. There's been a constant drizzle.
It's about eight degrees. How is that render ever going
to set? A day later there's another chap on the
ladder with some primer. He's painting it a day after

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another guy's finishing it. So but it must be incredibly
difficult trying to get stuff done here, and it may
well be a little bit challenging to get stuff done
back at home as well. I understand there might be
snow in the South Island, and certainly Auckland's had more
than its fair share of heavy weather as well. But look,
let's talk about your projects. So if you've got a
project that's on the boil, or maybe it's gone off

(07:33):
the boil, and that's the issue and you need to
give it a kickstart and get back into it, I
wait hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call
text through to nine two nine two from your mobile phone.
And again if you'd like to email, I can check
my emails from here. I wait hundred eighty. Sorry, I
eight hundred eighty. That's the telephone number. You can email me.

(07:53):
Pete at NEWSOOKXP dot co dot M said, right, internal
gut of flooding into the house on one side of
the roof. Text messages are starting to come through, which
is great, Hey, Pete, I have a problem with an
internal gut flooding into the house on one side of
the house. I suspect that what you're actually talking about
is not technically internal gutter. It's probably one of those

(08:16):
concealed spouting exposed facia systems that were popular about thirty
odd years ago. So it'll be a metal facia that
you'll see, and tucked inside it will be the spouting,
so rainwater comes down. If the spouting starts to rot out,
which they do, or if they overflow in heavy weather
and there's insufficient overflows to push it to the outside,

(08:39):
the water tends to go over the back of a
little bit of guttering on the inside track along SAFI
and straight down inside the building envelope, in my experience,
very difficult to get access to it, very difficult to
find those pieces if you were looking to replace them
without having them custom made. Interestingly enough, because so many

(09:00):
of those systems have had so many problems over the years.
There's at least three companies that I'm aware of that
have come up with systems basically to replace them without
having to do massive mounts of carpentry and so on.
So Custom Facier and Spouting they've got a system, Continuous
Spouting got a system, and there's a new one that

(09:23):
I actually went to the factory and had a look
at the other day called RIGS. So if you just
go Rigs, Rigs, Concealed Spouting or Spouting should bring it
up there. All of them have systems. So sorry, it's
not really a repair. In my opinion, I think you
should just have it replaced rightio. The lines are open.
The number to call eight hundred eighty ten eighty, give

(09:45):
me a call, will take a short break now if
you'd like to call, their perfect time to call. Actually
texts are fine, but your calls are better. Oh one
hundred eighty ten eighty Back after the.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Break, suns out tools out, your summer DIY starts here.
The resident builder with better wolf Care call eight hundred.

Speaker 2 (10:03):
News Talk News talks B and we are underway again.
A couple of little technical issues, but we'll get them
sorted out. The lines are open. The number to call
is eight hundred eighty ten eighty, and calls are great.
Text of fine, but calls are better if you're up
and about. Maybe you're thinking, gosh, there's a project that
i'd really like to get done well before Christmas. That's

(10:26):
pretty unlikely these days, isn't it most firms I know, well,
obviously Wednesdays Christmas Eve, not many people working. Christmas Eve.
You've got two days before that. Let's get realistic. It's
probably a start, but I'm sure that out there there
will be plumbers, electricians, painters, a bunch of carpenters and
so on, either trying to get the roof on, trying
to get the taps working, trying to get the bathroom commissioned,

(10:49):
maybe even trying to get the kitchen installed in time
to start cooking Christmas dinner on Thursday morning. So I
hope your Christmas preparations are going well. If you would
like to talk all things building and construction, the number
to call is eight hundred eighty ten eight. Now the
same personal text has just replied, Hey, look, sorry, can

(11:12):
you text me the names of the spouting companies I'm
in christ Church, that might be the challenge. I can't
funnily enough anyway. But if you just search for continuous Group,
they are pretty much nationwide, so rigs might be as well,
but continuous Group might be able to help you out,

(11:33):
even in christ Church. Obviously I'm a little bit more
familiar with the Auckland contractors, but I think they're nationwide.
So try that continuous group and maybe if you send
me your email, I will be able to email you
back and give you those details as well. So if

(11:54):
you're I mean, always a little bit challenging because on
the show sometimes people ring up and they're looking for
recommendations for a plumber or a sparky or a carpenter
or a painter or something like that. Obviously I know
guys that the guys that I know that I work with,

(12:15):
but sometimes it's a little bit challenging, you know, hooking
people up with contractors around the country. But hey, if
I know someone, I'm more than happy to recommend them,
and that has to be I have to say. One
of the best things about my kind of life in
the trades is the people that you meet generally, really
really good people, and you know, it's it's it's those

(12:39):
sort of I guess, initially business relationships that end up
becoming friendships for some of the guys I've been working
with more than thirty years now, and that's a real
treasure when you look back on it now. I eight
hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call. If you've
got some questions of a building nature you should call now.
I eight hundred eighty ten eighty is that number to call.

(13:01):
A couple of things happening on the show. We are
getting in for the final time this year. Obviously, our
razine painting expert, Jay Sharpel steps up and takes a
swing from the mound at around seven twenty five this morning,
so Ja Sharpele's our painting expert for the last time
this year. Both Jay and Bryce will be back with
us next year, which I'm really looking forward to. But

(13:23):
any specific painting questions please text them through now I'll
have them ready. J will be with us at around
seven twenty five as always for the last time before Christmas,
but carrying on of course, Red Climb Pass will join
us at around eight thirty this morning, So at eight
thirty we'll hop into the garden we'll talk gardening, we'll

(13:44):
talk entomology, the wonderful world of bugs here on news
Talks thereb so Rood will be with us at a
thirty j our Painting Expert at seven twenty five oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Now,
this is a common one, and to be fair, I'm
open to suggestions because I've had very little success with this.

(14:05):
In gen or Apte a new Quealer deck, some tannins
have leached onto the concrete. How do I remove it?
Thanks from Adye, I know people have tried things like
epsom salts. I've heard people using, interestingly enough, just house
old vinegar. There is of course water blasting to try

(14:28):
and remove it as well. It might be in some
cases one of those things where it just takes a
while and it fades away. But it is incredibly annoying,
and I've seen it with brand new Here's the tip,
number one tip of the day for Christmas. If you
go and splash out on some new hardwood furniture and
it's come from the factory, it hasn't seen the rain

(14:49):
since it was cut down in the forest. What you
don't do is put it on your nice new patio.
What you do do is put it on the lawn
for a while, let the rain get to it, let
it leach out there, and once you can see that
it's kind of finished, then you put it onto a
hard surface like a concrete patio or a tile deck,

(15:10):
or around the swimming pool or something like that. So
that's the best thing to do in the same way,
I guess with deck, if the deck is right near
a pathway or something like that, cover the pathway for
that period of time. But hey, look, if you've got
a sure fire method of sorting that out, if you've
had some success, fingers crossed. I don't think it's actually

(15:33):
ever something I've had to deal with in terms of
a mistake on site, but if you have, I'm happy
to take your text and your advice on that one
as well. Lines are open. The number to call, oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty and Vicky A very good morning. Welcome,
Hi there, Vicky, Hello, Vicky. Hello, Yes, good morning to you. Vicky.

(15:58):
How are you? Yeah?

Speaker 7 (15:59):
Can you hear me now?

Speaker 2 (16:01):
I sure? Can I can hear you now?

Speaker 8 (16:03):
Okay?

Speaker 7 (16:05):
Right. We have a nineteen thirty two double brick house
which was it's it's half a house and it was
built in nineteen thirty two. Now above the I mean
it's brick called a way around, except at the front
where there is presumably is it a plast What do

(16:27):
they do to have it all smoothing over at the
front which is cracking.

Speaker 2 (16:33):
Yes, it will be. It'll be like a render. So
back in the old days it would have been a
sand and cement render, maybe with a bit of lime
as well. Is this applied to the inside or to
the outside, to the outside, to the outside, okay, so
it would have been a simontitious one. So cement render
onto the outside, smooth it off, and in that you're

(16:56):
seeing the cracking. Yes, right. The other thing to consider
is like, given the age of the house, you know,
not that far off, one hundred years old, a little
bit of cracking not unexpected. And if you feel or
get a sense that the cracking is simply you know,
movement and settling in the building and so on, then

(17:19):
that's okay. You could go ahead and use like it.
There is actually if you go to some of the
large hardware stores, there's crack repair compound. It's like a
very fine powder. It already has some adhesive in it.
In some cases you can apply it dry. In other
cases you make it up into a paste and apply
that into the cracks, and then you'll obviously need to

(17:40):
paint over it. I guess the other consideration is always
going to be, is this crack the beginning of more
significant movement? So you know, if it's I don't know,
let's say wider than three to five millimeters, then potentially
you would just for peace of mind, maybe consider getting

(18:00):
a structural engineer to come and just have a look
at the house, just to make sure that there's nothing.
You know, it's it's been there for a while. You
just don't want to find that, in fact, there's significant
movements in the house and it's going to be a
structural issue. It's unlikely, but it's worth getting it checked out.

Speaker 7 (18:20):
Yeah, okay, no, that sounds good.

Speaker 2 (18:23):
Otherwise you can buy correct repair material almost everywhere.

Speaker 7 (18:27):
Okay, that's amazing, Thank.

Speaker 2 (18:29):
You, you have a great day. See if the key
and we'll go straight on to the next call, like
the one hundred and eighty ten eighty, by the way,
is that number to call Tom A very good morning
to you.

Speaker 5 (18:43):
Good morning to you, Peter and Merry Christmas, sir.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Well, thank you, it's very kind of you. That's the
first Christmas greetings from New Zealand.

Speaker 9 (18:51):
Actually, I've broken the windows and a wooden frame wouldn't
patty wise, right, So.

Speaker 5 (19:04):
I've taken all the glass out and I've tried to
rebate it as much as I can to to get
the new four mill clear float glass stuck in there,
you know what I mean?

Speaker 9 (19:20):
Yes, and I I I just thought I could use
a standing knight, but yeah, whatever they.

Speaker 5 (19:31):
Whatever they've done to put this window, and it's it's
it's it's it's like concrete. But anyway, got my finders
and and I won't take your time up. I've made
I've got enough to put the glass in and I'm
going to I'm just going to use silicon on the

(19:53):
inside to hold the glass frame in. And I'm going
to try and use those you know, you get those
those things you push push into a picture fire, Yes,
to hold the glasses, just to hold it. The silicon sets,

(20:17):
and then I'll have to do putty on the outside
and paint it. What are your thoughts on that?

Speaker 2 (20:25):
Okay, So if you've most glaziers or all glaziers, when
they're taking out the putty and so on from a
broken window. There's actually a special tool for the life
of me right now, I can't think of what the
name is, but it's someone will text it through me,
and I know I've got one at home somewhere in
my toolkit. So it's it's like a kind of blunt knife.

(20:49):
It's the shape of a knife, but it's got a
very broad back on it, and often you can just
use a hammer to go through and chip away at
all of that putty because you're right, after however many years,
it's it's rock hard, right, and a Stanley knife won't
cut it. The other thing is, rather than go and
buy one of the it's the other thing you can
do is just use a chisel, so a fairly broad chisel.

Speaker 5 (21:11):
I've been using a plane blade with a will you mallet. Yes,
I'm with you what I can do, and that works.

Speaker 2 (21:23):
I feel sad about the plane blade, but hey, look
that's okay, so do that. And then with a tungsten
scraper you can often get the last of it, last
of that really hard putty that's set into the rebate out.
So if you can scrape the rebate back as clean
as possible. That's really good. Prime the rebate really important

(21:46):
that you do that, and then yes, you can use silicon.
The only thing to bear in mind is if you
use silicon, particularly if you use clear silicon, you can't
paint it right, so when you go to repaint the
inside of the window, it's not as easy. And that's
why I still prefer that my glaziers use putty because
once it seals and once it goes hard, can paint

(22:07):
the timber on the inside and paint across the putty
because it will accept paint and onto the glass. But
either way, if you bedd it in with a bit
of silicon, which is how most people do it nowadays,
put that in. Oh here we go. It's a hacking knife.
There we go is the technical term. Thank you very much.
But so clean out the rebate, make sure you prime
the rebate, bed the glass and use those little staples

(22:31):
to hold the glass in place. Then you've got to
get the putty. The old fashioned glazing putty which was
a linseed one. You would need to leave that for
three to four weeks for it to get a skin
on it before applying paint. There are new putties which
you can paint the following day. Often read so do

(22:54):
that and the other key thing. Here's tip number two
for the day. When you're painting a timber frame with putty,
make sure that your paint goes onto the glass. That's
really really important. And it's that seal of the paint
onto the glass that stops water getting in behind the
putty and either causing leaks or just causing the putty

(23:16):
to fail. So it's really important that you actually paint
onto the glass.

Speaker 5 (23:21):
Well that that's a really good point, because I was
just gonna once I've done it, I was just going
to get like a a tmal plastic struck and holding
it against the glass and the party. It's rather than

(23:43):
yeah you use tape, but no, so I've got to
I've got to paint on the glass.

Speaker 2 (23:51):
Yeah, absolutely, it's It makes a huge difference to how
the window kind of performs, how the putty performs, and
keeping water out. Is painting onto the glass really keyp
art Tom, lovely chatting with you. Really appreciate that Lazy
has TechEd through. Now this is interesting. Different names for
the same talk variations on a theme. The Aglazier Craig

(24:13):
is tecked through saying it's called a hack out knife.
Other people have called it a hacking knife. Either way,
I'm pretty sure I've still got one. I think it
actually might have been my dad's. I can remember it
being in the workshop at home Jeeves forty years ago,
and I've got it, so that's all right. So yeah,
either a hack out or a hacking knife, so getting

(24:35):
rid of putty, that's definitely the way to go. We're
going to take a short break. We'll talk to Rich
in a moment. Your News Talks there be. It is
six thirty three, almost six thirty four, back after the break.

Speaker 1 (24:46):
From summer backyard jobs to Big Rednos.

Speaker 5 (24:49):
Let's talk it through.

Speaker 1 (24:50):
Call Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty the Resident Builder
with peterwolfcab News Talks Abbe.

Speaker 2 (24:58):
A couple of things just before we talk to Rich.
Do not use silicon on timber, you use wood sash
putty XP putty onto the straight paidaway three mili paint
onto the glass. Yeah, you're right, Craig, that's the glazier look.
I think I don't know whether it's I was gonna
say laziness on the part of some glaziers more and

(25:19):
more glaziers tend to use a bit of sealant into
the rebate and then push the glass into it. My preference,
and I think, Craig you probably agree with me. We
might be both a bit old fashioned, is to use putty.
I think it's better happy to have a glazier comment
on that. And just on the coiler as well, nappy

(25:40):
sand works perfectly for cleaning coiler, staining off concrete and
someone else's text through them. Just going back through my
text messages here, baking soda mixed with water and left
to settle, then pour off the liquid and spray or

(26:02):
brush the surface. That's also for getting rid of stains
from things like queila, in particular off the off concrete
if you happen to have made that mistake, and it's
a classic. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is
the number to call and rich a very good morning
to you.

Speaker 10 (26:21):
Pet.

Speaker 2 (26:22):
Are you're not too bad yourself?

Speaker 11 (26:25):
Yeah?

Speaker 12 (26:25):
Very well, very well?

Speaker 10 (26:26):
He are you just another one on that quiler? So yeah,
quite a number of years ago, built a brand new home,
got a mate around Christmas Eve, through all the coil
of the furniture together, and then I started to find
for some DearS and got up in the morning at
the rain, so phone heaps of people to try and
point out what to do. Noing, you phone the you know,

(26:47):
the hardware shafts, and yeah, no ideas. In the end,
I went down to the local force square and got
ganola straight ganola and poured that on it, scrubbed it
with a brush and hosted it off and it was
all gone. But that was the very next morning, So
there's right.

Speaker 2 (27:04):
Yeah, it's one of those things. Don't run around going
the skies falling, the skies falling? What am I going
to do? You just you want to crack into that
straight away?

Speaker 10 (27:12):
Yeah, yeah, so that worked for me anyway.

Speaker 2 (27:16):
So again my my tip number one for the day
is if you get new hardwood furniture, what you do
is you leave it on the lawn until it's rained
a couple of times, and then you move it onto
the patio. But you've probably learned that lesson.

Speaker 13 (27:27):
Ah, you never did that again.

Speaker 2 (27:33):
Well, we've all made them. We've all made them, me
more than more than most. I think. Hey, really appreciate it.
Hope you have a great Christmas with you and the family.

Speaker 11 (27:42):
Yeah, you take.

Speaker 2 (27:44):
Care rich all the best, much appreciated, Thank you writing
a couple of texts. People are getting right into the
whole thing of the puttying. I mean, it's and the
other thing with watching someone who's proficient, so Dale Mike Glazier,
who came and sorted out a shower door the other
day and replace some blazing on an old house a
little while ago. For me, you know, watching like watching

(28:06):
someone who has worked with putty for a long time.
It looks deceptively simple. It's a ball of putty. Scoop
it out of the pot, rub it in the hand,
get it nice and pliable and so on. And then
it's a one handed thing, and it's kind of like
pushing it forward in with the thumb all the way around,
a few little marks and that sort of thing, and

(28:27):
then out with the putty knife, strikes it off. Job done,
brush over the top, job done. I've watched that a
number of times. I've tried to do it a few
times as well. It is a lot harder than it looks.
That's that skill when you see it. Oh, eight hundred
eighty ten eighty is the number to call if you'd
like to give us a call. I'd love to hear
from you on any particular building topic, or perhaps a

(28:51):
reflection on the year that was as well. Well, maybe
we save that for next week when I'll be bringing
you the show. I feel like like an IT overset
foreign correspondent at the moment. I'll bring you the show
from Los Angeles next week on our home But right
now I'm actually in Bayswater, a suburb. I guess it's

(29:12):
fairly central London, London. I'm about a fifteen minute walk
less than that from Kensington Palace. After I left the
family in the center of London this afternoon, I walked
from Westminster, past Buckingham Palace, through sort of Hyde Park
and then on to Kensington Park to get back here.

(29:35):
It's where I'm staying now, and it was It's been
a lovely old time, so and interesting. Like I say,
to go a couple of hardware stores that I've been to,
and here's me. I'm out, you know, halfway around the world,
still going to hardware stores, still picking up a couple
of items that I think might be useful and that

(29:55):
I might enjoy using when I get back to New Zealand.
As well. A quick text on the removing putty Hey
removing re removing putty, especially from old timber frame. I
soften at first with a hot air gun. It's clever.
I find a lot of the glaciers chipped the wood.
A smaller chisel and a light hammer then removes it easier.

(30:17):
That's cheatius sexually. Thank you for that, Nikki. I really
appreciate that. A W eight one hundred and eighty eighty
is the number to call. Penny A very good morning
to you.

Speaker 14 (30:27):
Oh, good morning, good morning to I have a slight
issue in my batch. I just got a bathroom floor.
A little bit of the floor under in front of
the toilet had been sinking for a long time and
I just got that replaced by a friend. So the

(30:47):
floor is great, but he had to take the toilet
off and put it back on, and then putting it
back on. When he screwed it back in the base
of the porcelain cracked. Oh yes, yeah, And he said
it's probably fine, and so I good at And the

(31:07):
thing is, there's been.

Speaker 8 (31:08):
A leak there.

Speaker 14 (31:09):
I don't want to leak there again. I probably, even
though it's very batchy, I probably don't want to crack
in it. So I have to get it replaced. Is
that a big job? Because, you know, because it was
kind of a favor and he said, oh, look, I
can do it. But I didn't want to put him out.
But I couldn't figure out how much of a job
it was. And then I figured maybe I should just
get a plumber and find a new toilet and do it.

(31:31):
Do you know what I mean? I happy not to
spend money on it either, but I feel like, how
how much of an issue is the actual crack practically?

Speaker 2 (31:44):
Well, I guess the main I mean, the main concern
is is the crack where the screw fitting or the
screw hole is likely to cause a leak at the
bottom of the pan? Right? So yes, what I'm thinking
is fill the pan to the point that it would
normally fill when you flush it, right, because that obviously

(32:04):
there's a U bend, so the water goes up to
a level. Once it gets beyond that, it flows over
the U bend. So fill it full of fill it
up until it reaches its level. Mark that level maybe
with a mark or pen or a bit of sticky
tape or something like that. Check it again a couple
of hours later or a day later. If that hasn't dropped.

(32:24):
Then you could reasonably confidently say my pan is not leaking,
in which case it's then a cosmetic thing. So then
you could just go, well, look I can live with
a crack around the screw hole, right.

Speaker 14 (32:42):
Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:43):
So then at least you because you're right, given that
you had to replace the floor, probably from a leak
from the toilet system somewhere, you don't want to have
to do that again. So if it's not leaking, you
could leave it. Otherwise, I guess the thing is you'd
never find another pan that will fit with the system,
most likely unless it's not that old, in which case
you're having to buy a complete new toilet suite. The

(33:07):
issue with that sometimes is you know where the water
comes out, where the you know the depth of the
setting for the waste pipe. All of these things change.
I've just done one just before we went away, and
you know, it becomes a much bigger job. And the
other thing again, here we go tip number three. It

(33:28):
would seem, having watched my plumbers put in some toilet
systems for me in the last couple of months, that
increasingly it's a big bead of sealant around underneath the
toilet pan, and the screws really are kind of there
just to hold it in place. They're not there to
fix it down to the ground. It's really the sea.
In some cases, I know plumbers that don't even bother

(33:50):
putting any fixings anymore. They just beat decent bead of
sealant adhesive sealent round the bottom of the pan, pop
it into place, don't use it for twenty four hours.
It'll stay there. And you know, for all normal usage,
the pan's going to stay where needs to stay. So
that's another thought for you.

Speaker 14 (34:10):
And you wouldn't be concerned about like the fact like
growing over time or anything.

Speaker 2 (34:15):
I guess, you know, I suppose I would kind of
take that and go if it becomes a problem later,
I'll fix it later. That you don't have to fix
it now. The only reason that I would feel that
you'd need to fix it immediately is if the pan
or the bowl at the bottom of the pan is
not holding water, and you can test that that way.

(34:35):
Good luck and a very happy Christmas tea, take care
of all the best, Penny. By by right, we're going
to take a short break. If you've got a question
of a building nature or a plumbing nature. I'll tell
you about this because it was something that I bought today,
the most random thing, at a tiny little antique store
in Islington. We had to travel a wee bit to

(34:57):
find it. But it relates to what we've just been
talking about, and my name, which is even funnier. Anyway,
stand by. I'll give that story after the break, but
interested in your stories more than mine. Eight hundred eighty
ten eighty is the number to call it.

Speaker 1 (35:13):
Sawdust, sunshine and solid advice. The resident builder with peterwolf Cab.
Call oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty news talks.

Speaker 12 (35:21):
There'd be.

Speaker 2 (35:23):
Your news talks. It'd be we're talking all things building construction.
A couple of great texts that have come through as well. Again,
lots of dispute about the way in which to bed
in your glazing into a timber rebate. You can use
paintable clear sealant on the back rebate if your windows

(35:43):
in a high sun area, the celant is good at
the back. This person uses a foss rock crystal clear. Pete,
thanks very much for that. Someone else, this is interesting too, Pete.
I owned an old church and took all of the
putty out of the curved windows with a tile saw.
I set the depth to a millimeter back from the

(36:05):
glass cut around the timber. Heat from the plade melts.
The putty also cuts through the sprigs as well. The
putty will just fall out. I guess I just have
this vision that there's still little bits of glass in there.
So you're effectively using the tile sword. It cuts through
the last little bits of glass. I guess if you're
suitably protected in terms of your ppe, that'll be okay. Hey,

(36:29):
look more to the point, Pete. If it works for you,
that's fabulous. Oh now, let me just tell you so.
I love antique stores right and collecting a few little
bits and pieces, and so we made the effort today
to go to an antique store that we'd heard about
because we're tragic fans of that program Salva Hunters right

(36:51):
with Drew Pritchard, where he travels around England buying bits
and pieces, and every now and then he meets a character.
And this character Paul runs Paul's Antiques Innovative Name in Islington.
So we took the bus out there today and we're
wandering around having a bit of a chat and tucked
away at the back of the store was an old

(37:12):
metal sign handpainted and it said Pier's Pierre Wolf's and
I thought Pierre Wolf Peter wolf Camp not too far away,
and then it had in French. The occupation. Turns out
that they were a plumber and roofer, and then their
address on an old metal sheet. Anyway, I couldn't resist it.

(37:35):
I ended up buying that and a little book and
a few other bits and pieces. So that was a
little bit of our shopping today. So yeah, odd things
to buy while on holiday. But this is the way
that we roll. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. A couple of other quick texts
as well that have come in. This is a challenging one, Kevin,

(37:57):
thank you for your text, Hey Pete. How accurate is
the cord oal some assure calculator when determining the insurance
value for rebuilding a home in Auckland. One of the
things that I, I mean, it's hard to say that
the calculator is not good. I think what is often

(38:17):
the case is that unless you are very familiar with
all of the items in your house and the method
of construction for your house, it can be a bit misleading,
and that's that classic. You know, if the data going
in is not good, then the data coming out is
not going to be that great. Interestingly enough, I a

(38:39):
friend of mine a little while ago, some time ago
now asked me exactly the same question. I know their
house reasonably well. They used the calculator themselves and got
a figure, let's say it was six hundred and fifty thousand.
I used exact same calculator based on my knowledge of

(39:01):
the house and all of the elements that went into it,
and the type of the site and those sorts of things,
and my figure was closer to eight hundred thousand. Now,
I think that's because I'd like to think that I've
got good knowledge around how to rebuild that house, and
that perhaps possibly as a homeowner, the other person just

(39:24):
miss some things, which is fine, that's not a judgment
on them. So in that case, Kevin, I think the
calculators are useful, but there's no guarantee that they're right.
And way way a go, we had a gentleman from
Construction cost Consultants on He's fantastic. He's a registered quantity surveyor.

(39:46):
He actually runs a system whereby if they assess your
house and it turns out to cost more. I think
they come to the party on a difference anyway. Either way,
if you do want to get a professional registered valuation,
then look at construction cost consultants. But by all means,
it's a useful tool because it's very, very difficult for

(40:07):
most homeowners to get a sense of just how expensive
their own houses are to replace. So the tools useful.
Just make sure you put in as much information as
you possibly can about the house in order to give
it a decent figure. Now, in the next hour of
the show, we have our painting expert j Sharples from Razine.
He's going to join us at around seven twenty five. Remember,

(40:30):
as always we're into the garden with Redcline past come
eight point thirty. We're coming up to news, Sport and
Weather top of the hour at seven o'clock. So if
you'd like to join us after Newsport and Weather gives
a call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty, keep the
text running. That's nine two, nine to two and if
you'd like to email, it's peaked at newstooksp dot co

(40:50):
dot NZI. A little bit of Christmas music to take
us up to the break back after the news at.

Speaker 3 (40:55):
Seven, I can h they went through school the start again.
It's urging till the blood lag is small. Everywhere you go,
there's a tree, the Grand Hotel one in the park
as well. It's the sturdy kind that doesn't mind the snow.

(41:21):
Let's be getting to the blood like us.

Speaker 4 (41:27):
Soon.

Speaker 3 (41:27):
The Bess Star and the thing that will.

Speaker 1 (41:32):
Make sorting those summer fixes before the barbecue crowd arrives.
The Resident Builder with Peter wolf Camp Call eight hundred
eighty to eighty Youth TALKSBBI.

Speaker 2 (41:45):
Well, welcome back to the program. Pete wolf Camp is
my name, the Resonant Builder, and this is the resum
Builder on Sunday. If you would like to talk about
anything related to building, construction, renovating alterations. We can talk
about the practical stuff. We can talk about the the rules,
the regulation, the legislation. Is a lot of change coming up,

(42:05):
and that's it's already been announced this year and I
guess it'll be coming into play next year. We can
talk about that. We can talk about the tools and
tricks and tips and every now and then the show
is also just about fixing the stuff ups right, So
if you've got some new Queler furniture and it's sat
on a fresh bit of concrete and then it rained.

(42:28):
It's not the concrete's fault, it's the quiler's fault. What
do you do about that? So I just tax through
Pete Nappie stand has an active ingredient called soul sodium
per carbonate. It's a weak solution. I just use sodium
per carbonate straight diluted in hot order for Queler stains.
That's from Louis. Thanks very much for that. I must

(42:50):
note these things down as well, right he so, and
again if the show sounds a little bit funny or
if there's a few technical issues, I am broadcasting from
quite some distance away as it happens, so currently in London,
actually in London City. I've been staying with some friends
outside of London and heading towards New Zealand, but not

(43:13):
quite making it by next Sunday as well. But I
will be back the following Sunday into the brand new
year to be back in the studio. So right now
we are doing it as an overseas broadcast, which is
a little bit of fun but entertaining. Sitting essentially in
my hotel room with a laptop and a microphone doing
the show from here, which is great fun after having

(43:35):
had a just spectacular day in London today, beautiful, almost
completely clear skies, ten degrees, very little wind. You can
kind of walk through Kensington Park and you can sort
of see the Brits wandering about, going wow. This is
amazing because generally at this time of year it's pretty

(43:57):
miserable over here, and from what I can hear from
friends back home, it sounds like it hasn't been the
greatest weather back in New Zealand. And I'm not sure
what the Christmas Day forecast looks like, but it does
sound like met Service of issooter a suggestion that you
might need a plan the if you're thinking about a
barbecue outside, you may well in parts of the country

(44:17):
need a plan bee. Anyway, I wish you all the
very best Christmas. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty Oh.
Remember in about twenty minutes or so, Jay, our painting
expert from Razine, will be joining us. So if you've
got any specific painting questions, please send those through via
text message that's nine to nine two or ZBZB from

(44:38):
your mobile phone. We'll take your calls we'll keep that
running as well as always. At around eight point thirty
this morning, we'll jump into the garden with red climb
past as well, and right now, so give us a call.
We'll send those specific painting text questions through as well.
A very good morning to you, Robert. How are you.

Speaker 15 (44:56):
I'm well, thanks Toooner. About forty years ago, I bought
a whole packet of queler and it was red, and
I believe today I'm sorry, I just changed the I
believe today they're dipping it in a die and that's
why it's running off. So it's quite a different product.

Speaker 12 (45:17):
Now.

Speaker 2 (45:20):
Look, it's not something that i'd heard of. I would
have thought in the end, quila's queler, right, So maybe
older that's curious. Actually, I mean potentially older queller. Let's
say from forty years ago. It might have come from
older forests.

Speaker 15 (45:42):
Yeah, you're probably right.

Speaker 2 (45:44):
Yeah, and so it might have been an older tree, denser,
more sap and so on. If it's plantation growing hardwood,
I'm not sure how much of that is out there.
There's always if I'm really really honest, there's always been
a part of me that's slightly reluctant to use hardwoods
for the reason that until quite recently, you will never

(46:06):
really sure where it was coming from, right, And what
I'm talking about is those just heartrending, soul destroying pictures
of you know, people clearing vast amounts of rainforest around
the world simply to harvest five hundred year old, two
hundred year old trees to turn into garden furniture, and

(46:29):
part of me just goes, that's irresponsible. Now that's not
the case now for hardwoods, and if timber has an
fsc SO forestry certification, then you can be reasonably confident
that it's come from either managed or sustainable forests around
the world. But I think if you were ever in

(46:50):
a position where you had some exotic timbers and you
were unsure or they were not able to prove how
that timber was logged or where it came from, I'd
stay away from it issue.

Speaker 15 (47:06):
The interesting thing about the packet was all the same lengths,
like a packet of four the tree to yeah, so
not in bits where you have to choose some things.
The other thing that I've spent a local guy who's
using bamboo now for getting yes, and I've seen it
put down and it's true and straight, he said, bell

(47:29):
just love it because they don't have to make any corrections,
have cuttings which are stainless steel and hidden and they
can do the job very quickly. So if I was
using it again, I use bamboo.

Speaker 2 (47:44):
I'm curious to have a look at that. I haven't
had the opportunity to use it. I mean, if you
think about how quickly bamboo grows, I mean it must
be a composite, so they must take bamboo and then
blew it together with a whole lot of something else exactly.
But either way, some of the composites are great, and
given how quickly bamboo grows, it makes I think it

(48:06):
makes for a very sustainable product potentially depending on what
they use to then blue it all together. But keen
to have a go with it. Appreciate the call, enjoy
your day and all the very best for Christmas as well, Robert,
thanks for calling. I love take care. Oh thank you mate.
It's controversial, I think at best I did earlier in

(48:30):
the year. No, no, sometimes last year. I think, rah,
you know it's been ten years of the show. Maybe
I should change the song. And all I got was, no,
you can't change the song. We don't like the new one.
And then, of course, as soon as I went back
to the old one, which is this one, I get
the occasional text, when are you going to change that
blasted song? So hey, I'll stick with it. I quite

(48:50):
enjoy it. But of Ben Harper, alright, A lovely a
chat with you. Take care all the best, Sarah by then,
and Elizabeth, good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (49:00):
Good morning. I need your advice. I hired Order to
come and recoil and reinsulate the part of my home,
which he duly did. I fully paid up. He didn't
complete the job. Short story long, very short. He's walked
away from the job and told me that he is
suffering from mental health issues, even though he's been on

(49:23):
the job with his painter fixing a couple of small issues,
supposedly fixing them, but he hasn't. So I rang the
building company, that the certified building company, and they said
he resigned his place from being within their company, so
there was nothing they could do about it. I said,
but it's on your letter here, and they said tuss.

(49:44):
So I rang them back a few months later and
was told the same thing again, and was then told
that he is now an LBP so I can have
to I have to apply through them to try and
get something done. Now he admitted fault, he's refused to
come back and do it. I allowed him a few
months over the last Christmas period because of young families.

(50:05):
I said, I'll just come back and then you only
sorted out. Meanwhile, the timber moved and I ended up
with a striped sticking story. The painter came back and
did a botched job. It has now moved yet again.
So yet again, over a year later, I have now
got well, actually it's only six months since he fixed
the botch job. Now six months later, all the timber

(50:26):
has moved again and I have got another striped house.
Brazine have been the head of lock and said that
he used all the right paints. So where am I
left other than having a mortgage at sixty five in
the house that hasn't been completed. Yeah, I've got a
front porch roof that is leaking and he just doesn't
set a damn. Meanwhile, I've lost fifteen kg and campletely

(50:49):
because I'm so stressed about it all, and my house
is incomplete.

Speaker 11 (50:54):
Where do I go?

Speaker 8 (50:55):
Because I've asked other billers come have a lock, and
nobody wants to touch it because it's somebody else's problem.

Speaker 2 (51:01):
And you know, unfortunately for good reason. You can understand
why buildings are really reluctant to finish somebody else's work,
particularly when it's it's substandard.

Speaker 8 (51:11):
Right, that's a no. Thelight po roof where the product
has been cut short because of the product that he
used that I didn't ask for. The pergola, the pergolar
part of it, the timber has been cut off, so
it just needs some more timber put on it, and
then have then the corrugated plastick routing or the old

(51:33):
nob lighters I used to call it.

Speaker 2 (51:34):
Yeah, sure that has been put up.

Speaker 8 (51:36):
Side down in places not overlapped. So the whole little leak. Yeah,
it's pretty simple. It's like a day's work and it
would be fixed, and he's just refused to come back.
The shed doors he put on, they had started rotting
in three months, and I know they haven't been painted
because I've got a photo of the day they went up,
and they went painted before they were put up. Yeah,

(51:57):
I haven't got a leak.

Speaker 2 (51:58):
Can I just run through a couple of quick questions
for you. You mentioned that he was part of an organization,
so you talked about this. Was he HEASIL and Certified
Builders member?

Speaker 8 (52:09):
Yes, yes, he's got his own company.

Speaker 2 (52:12):
He he At the time when he was doing the
job for you, was he a paid up and registered member?

Speaker 8 (52:20):
Yes, he was until two weeks before he came back
to fix the job.

Speaker 2 (52:26):
Okay, all right, well that's interesting, is he Well he
should have been at the time in LBP as well,
so if you go to the LBT register.

Speaker 8 (52:37):
Well, he didn't tell me that he was. But when
I rang back and spooked the same morning on the phone,
asking to speak to superior about it for the second
time again, she refused to speak to anybody else, and
she said to me, oh, by the way, he is
an LBP now.

Speaker 2 (52:55):
Yep. Which so we again a quick question. When did
this work begin?

Speaker 8 (53:04):
And it would have been about Meyler year.

Speaker 2 (53:08):
So May twenty four.

Speaker 8 (53:11):
So Ita September and the timber started moving and striped,
and I said to him, look, summer's coming out. You've
both got young families, you and your the painter. Why
don't we just leave it till l after Christmas. Come
back at the gun of March, when all the kids
at back at school and let's just finish the job.
The great fantastic thinks you're you know, for helping us
out job. And then they didn't come. It went on

(53:34):
and on and on, email after email from me saying
when are you coming? And then they ended up coming.
I think it wasn't about May. And then I got
abuse from the painter. Yeah you know, and he literally
got a small two inch paint brush and taped it
onto a roller and I got up on a ladder

(53:55):
and fixed the paint that way.

Speaker 2 (53:57):
Yeah.

Speaker 8 (53:58):
Story other question for he was fine.

Speaker 2 (54:02):
So at the time, he sounds like he may have
been a member of If he is an LBP, you
can go and check whether he's currently a licensed building
practitioner going to LBP dot golf dot NZ. Certainly it

(54:25):
sounds like it would warrant a complaint to the disciplinary Board.
One of the interesting moves by the current government has
been to speed up that process, because you know, in
a situation like this, if an investigation takes six or
eight months, that's not much use to you in terms
of actually, you know, if it's designed to be about

(54:46):
consumer protection, there needs to be some speed about it.
And the system hasn't been particularly speedy. So I suppose
reminding him of his legal obligations to act as an
LBP and to obey the code of ethics, and it
sounds like he he's failed on a number of those

(55:08):
things may get him to come back and complete the work.
But then I'm dealing with, Yeah, I'm dealing with a
not a similar situation where you know, if if the
contractor who has done what is arguably poor work comes back,
I think the only way that it's fair for the

(55:29):
client to accept it, because everyone has a right to
sort of fix their stuff ups, basically, is that somebody
else suitably qualified would be there to supervise and and
have the ability to say whether or not the work
is up to stand it or not. But in terms
of the immediate the issue, and this is you know,

(55:54):
a genuine issue that we face just in terms of legislation,
I guess is that in this instance, what you want
to do is just get it fixed, right, So how
do you get it fixactly?

Speaker 8 (56:03):
I've got a stright house and a leaky patio and
the thing I emailed and said to him, look, this
is really affecting my health badly. Can you please just
come and fix the job. You know, I know that's
just these little things like spouting that's been that's fifty
miil too short, splices through a windows, so now I
can't keep any windows open in the house in this area.

Speaker 15 (56:24):
And can you.

Speaker 8 (56:25):
Please just come and fix it. This is really affecting
my health, which it is is just shocking. And you know,
every waking minute I waked for the night and I
just think about it, and I got.

Speaker 12 (56:35):
Letter I think I will do.

Speaker 8 (56:39):
The next day. I got two lines back in an
email the next day saying he's suffering from mental health.
Good luck with your house. So he's walked away from
the job and abundantly clear.

Speaker 2 (56:52):
Look, I think there are things that you can do,
none of them and you know, like if I if
I had a solution, i'd tell you, but the reality
is actually getting something done quickly. There's you know, I'm
open to suggestions, but I don't know that there is something.
Can I just pass you back to my producer, could you,

(57:13):
if you feel like it, leave your email with them.
I'll contact you when I'm back in New Zealand, which
is in a week or so, and see whether there's
something that I might be able to do otherwise this.
You know, it's a deeply complex issue. It shouldn't be right,
you know. I think this is the one thing if
the current government could fix one thing, it would be

(57:35):
being able to set up a process whereby you've in
good faith taken on a contract. It's well, maybe there
was no contract, in which case it gets really tricky
with lawyers, et cetera, et cetera. But you know, that
thing of getting contractors to come back finish work to
a reasonable standard, and when they don't, having a mechanism

(57:56):
that means you can put pressure on them to do
that work in a timely fashion. I don't, to the
best of my knowledge, believe that it's out there, But Elizabeth,
if you stay and to speak with Hope, leave your details.
I'll try and contact you a little bit later on.
Right now, we're going to be talking with Jay shortly,

(58:16):
so if you've got any specific painting questions, feel free
to text them through. That'll be coming up shortly, but
just before then we'll talk to Peter about wallpaper. Good morning, Peter,
hey man.

Speaker 13 (58:30):
This might be a flow on for Joe as well.
So I've got a project coming up where my son's
bought a house. He's not living in the same city,
so I can't give you much details on it. But
when I went down there, headed tected wallpaper that's been
painted over the top of and he would like it
to take it. He's just bought the house and he
would like to take it back and do a paint. Finich.

(58:52):
Now it's a nineteen sixty style house. I'm not sure
how prevalent jib board was in those type of that era.
But what I'm kind of to understand before we start
ripping off stuff and then thinking, oh my god, what's
behind the wallpaper, just as the approach to this type
of thing, we someone's obviously painted over the top of
the textured wallpaper and now we want to strip it

(59:15):
back down again, which couldn't mean to say having to
reline or pasturing or skimming at least to get a
real true paint pinge. Just support how you approach this
before covering.

Speaker 2 (59:29):
Yeah, look from my own experience, so some of those
textured wallpapers were actually designed to be painted over. That
was the intention, right, So like an aneglupt of paper,
So you put it on because you wanted that texture.
You put it on. Then you painted over it. In
some cases, maybe it was an odd color or something
like that, and later on people have painted it and

(59:51):
then excuse me, inevitably, once it's being painted, people might
repaint it. So the challenge to removing it is you know,
typically you do steam, right, but the steam's not going
to be very effective through those layers of paint. So
you get a little thing called a paper tiger, which
makes tiny little holes through the paint. You rub the
surface down with a paper tiger that perforates the surface.

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Then I would just go straight down to higher pol
and get a steamer. Use that. If you are going
to take the wallpaper off. To steam the wallpaper off,
it'll come off. Clean the wall up as best as possible.
I think almost inevitably it will need a skim coat.
So once you've cleaned as much of the paper off

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as possible, I tend to use a pigmented seala, then
I get the stopper and to do a skim coat
on the wall. Once that's been sanded and smooth, then
I do a sealer again pigmented seala, then broad wall,
and then repaint it to be fair. You may even
get to the point where actually just pulling the plasterboard

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off and replacing it could actually be quicker, so goat feeling.

Speaker 13 (01:01:01):
It would be like a jib plasterboard underneath.

Speaker 2 (01:01:04):
I think so nineteen sixty Yeah. Absolutely. The other way
of checking is if there's a PowerPoint or a light
switch or something like that, just carefully take the screws out,
have a look and you'll be able to see what
the lining is there.

Speaker 13 (01:01:16):
Oh, good point, good point here. All right, okay, hey, thanks,
thanks so.

Speaker 2 (01:01:21):
Hey lovely to Chack. Thank you. I certainly am much
appreciated you. Take care. Thank you Petter your news talk
said B and I've sort of straight. I'm off the reservation.
I'm into Jay's territory. So I'm going to hand over
to Jay in just a moment. If you've got a
specific painting question, feel free to text them through now
nine to nine two or zaid BZB from your mobile phone.

(01:01:42):
The lines that are open, the texts are open anyway.
If you've got a special painting question, poor Jay our
painting expert, he'll be along straight after the break.

Speaker 1 (01:01:54):
If it creaks, leaks, cracks or squeaks, some's the time
to get it sorted. Call Oh, eight hundred and eighty
ten eighty, the resident builder with Peter wolf Cave used
talks B.

Speaker 2 (01:02:05):
You'll news talk'd B. It is being on the dot
seven thirty and if you've got a printing question, feel
free to text the question through to nine two niney
two for the last time this year, and with a
great deal of gratitude for all your help this year, Jay,
Welcome to the show.

Speaker 13 (01:02:23):
Good morning, Pete.

Speaker 12 (01:02:25):
How are you?

Speaker 2 (01:02:25):
Greetings? Indeed, greetings, indeed it is actually you're absolutely right
six thirty here. Well, the sun went down at about
three o'clock. Sounds about right, how though, And I was
watching there. There's quite a lot of work going on
around where we're staying, and I was watching some chaps

(01:02:49):
trying to repaint an old wrought iron balustrade, and then
another chap doing a little bit of render on an
old building, and I was thinking, oh, that'll be weeks
before that's dry enough. But the next day there was
another chap up there on the top of the ladder
giving it a primer coke. But it must be really challenging,
you know, when it's i don't know, during the day

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with about four hours of sunshine.

Speaker 13 (01:03:14):
Similar winter, right, yeah, yeah, those conditions. So I wouldn't
be recommending painting, but you've got to do what you've
got to do.

Speaker 2 (01:03:24):
You've got to do what you've got to do. Absolutely. Hey,
you know around this time of year, my my, my
sort of recollections from my childhood was that basically every
summer was painting. There was something that was getting painted.

Speaker 5 (01:03:38):
Right.

Speaker 2 (01:03:39):
So for people that perhaps only do their painting at
summer and it's it's a little bit here and there
between the beach and barbecues and that sort of thing,
what's a couple of really important things for people to
remind themselves about.

Speaker 13 (01:03:53):
Okay, so but take your time, like plan ahead. It's
warming up. Like after I get off the phone phone here,
I'm going to be scrubbing my back down. I spread
it all with mott and mole killer yesterday, I'll scrub
it down timber and deckwash. And then when it's dry
before it gets too hot, I'll look at putting the

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coat of stain on my deck. I work around the sun.
Don't sort of work in direct sunlight because stain will
dry too quickly. Paint will dry too quickly. I'd say,
make a plan, so stick to one one side or
one part of the house at a time, and don't
try and do too much. Also cover up, wear a hat,

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wear your sunscreen, and drink penny or water or fluids.

Speaker 2 (01:04:38):
Yeah, one hundred percent. And I'm just thinking back to
if she was something that Elizabeth was talking about. She
was talking about the builder who's done a pretty poor job,
and it sounds like part of what the problem with
the project was is they did some weatherboards and as
the weather boards have moved, the color the primer is
seen and maybe she's opted for a reasonably dark color

(01:05:01):
or something like that. I know there's the light reflectance
value in these manufacturers details around what how dark you
can paint particular types of clearing, particularly timber with the boards.
If you are going to head towards a darker color,
would you recommend painting all of the board beforehand so
that when they do move, you don't get that break

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that line.

Speaker 13 (01:05:25):
Yeah, I mean definitely if that's possible. You can't get
a coat on the boards before they go up. So,
I mean all timber moves, right, it expands and contracts throughout,
So if you can get that code on when the
timber moves, then you're not going to see that primer
coat underneath. It's not always possible. So I mean the

(01:05:46):
other thing once that timber contracts back and you see
that primer coat, it's trying to get around them with
some of the top coat color. Just in future years,
is that timber moves. It's not going to be as obvious. Yeah,
paintings painting is not going to hold your house together.

Speaker 2 (01:06:05):
The timbers can move, that's right, poorly fixed or whatever.
Then that's that's not the paints problem. We're going to
We can take the ad break now. Jay is with us,
will come back with your text questions in.

Speaker 1 (01:06:19):
Just a moment, suns out tools out. Your summer DIY
starts here. The resident builder with Petter Wolf can call
eight hundred eight News Talk z B.

Speaker 2 (01:06:31):
We're talking all things painting this morning. Jay, our painting
expert from Razine is with us. Let's do some quick
fire text messages now. So this is on a coiler deck.
Chris is using an oil based forest wood stain. Do
they need to cut in as they go to prevent contrast?
Or can they just cut in? Sorry? Can they cut

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in completely and then use the applicator to finish or
do you is the wet edge an issue with stains
as well.

Speaker 13 (01:07:01):
Yes, don't just stain as you go. Obviously, painting, you
want to maintain the wet edge with the stain if
it's going to penetrate into the timber. If you allow
that to happen and dry and then you go over
that section, you're going to get more stain on the
area that's been cut in. So then it's going to

(01:07:22):
be a parent and you're going to picture frame the
entire deck or area staining, So just staying as you go,
take your time. Do tend to say, do one or
two boards at a time, and try and do the
whole length or a standard point, and don't try and
overlap the areas. Otherwise it becomes very apparent because.

Speaker 2 (01:07:43):
That phrase picture frame is effectively if you were to
cut in and then you cut in around the whole
perimeter and then you go over it with your applicator,
you've got two coats on money area and one coat
or another and then you'll see the difference, is what
you're saying.

Speaker 13 (01:07:56):
That's right?

Speaker 2 (01:07:57):
Yeah, yeah, okay, brilliant morning. We've got some paint that's
come off the wall with the bead heaters. I really
like the paint color. How do I match the color
if I don't know what brand and what print work
has required? So calor mitching.

Speaker 13 (01:08:16):
Well, if you can take us, if you can take
a sample into your local rosine color shop, the biggest
bit you can get off would be better. Usually the
smallest amount they need is something like a fifty cent piece.
I've seen much much smaller, and I've seen people bring
like whole doors and whole bits of furniture in. So

(01:08:38):
the biggest bit you can bring in is the easiest
bit and leave it with the shop stuff. But sometimes
it's very quick and they get it straight away, and
sometimes it takes a few days. All depends how busy
it is in the store. So like if you can
drop it off and leave your details and come back,
they'll call you in sort of a day or two generally,

(01:08:58):
and then they'll match it up. As for prep work,
sandbag can remove any loose, flaky sort of area. Is
usually if the paint damaged around there is going to
need to like sand It might need a spot prime
with like a pigmented sela like shaw seal, even the
water borne version, and then paint corner to corner. If

(01:09:22):
you just try and do small areas. It's likely to
be very apparent, so just sort of aim to do
the whole wall.

Speaker 2 (01:09:28):
Okay, now this is interesting. One someone needs to stain
some horizontal dicking underneath a dick. What's the best way
of doing it given that you're applying the stain against gravity,
a brush or some other application. So I guess typically
if we're staining dicks, it's you know, gravity helps the
dick's flat. Putting the stuff on.

Speaker 13 (01:09:50):
Top our stain penetrates. So in that situation, i'd say
wear some goggles, wear some overalls, and get your brush
out and just kind of brush it. Brushing is going
to help get apply more pressure to the areas. If

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you try and roll it's it's not going to be
as even if you try and spray it, I don't
think it's going to really work. So the same with
speed brushes and stuff. I think the best method would
be by brush. Yes, and yeah, it's going to be
a messy job. I'd imagine why if it's the underside,
why I'd say maybe look at painting it rather than

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staining it. But I suppose I don't know the situation.

Speaker 2 (01:10:36):
Yeah, maybe it's a kentle Ever, deck, and you know
there's a you can walk out underneath, and they want
to do what would have been easier paint the bill
when I put them down. Look, hindsight's always twenty twenty now.
Chalkboard paint? Can it be tinted? And does it come

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in different colors? Do you have a razine option for them?

Speaker 13 (01:11:00):
We did have different different colors, but you can use
sort of space coat flat or space cooat lo she
they're hard wearing, cleanable paints, and then you can pick
any of the colors in the sort of multi finish range.
So you've got three thousand odd colors to choose from,
and then you can use the chalk on there. Okay,

(01:11:21):
we've just kind of got standard.

Speaker 2 (01:11:22):
Black chalkboard paint. Oh really, I don't.

Speaker 13 (01:11:26):
Know, you've just used spacecoat instead.

Speaker 2 (01:11:29):
Okay, brilliant? All good, Well, that's amazing. Right. Someone's had
a new timber fence put up about a month ago,
standard pine post and rail. They want to paint it.
They want to know how long to leave it before
they start painting it. What should I look for? My
side is the shady south side, but it does get

(01:11:50):
afternoon sun. The builder has suggested, so it's just been
finished a month ago. The builder has suggested waiting until February.
What do you think.

Speaker 13 (01:11:59):
Usually if it's been sort of treated, it's best to
wait until the sort of smell of the treatment is dispersed,
which especially on the south side, might take a little
bit longer depending on the type of timber. I'm not
sure if you said, but some sort of more hardwoods
need time to sort of relax abit I suppose and

(01:12:21):
weather sure, so maybe till till February could be good. Otherwise, yeah,
I suppose it's kind of quick dry. Or we've got landscaping,
fence and timber paintment's just sort of hit the market,
which would would go well on there as well.

Speaker 2 (01:12:37):
Okay, so that's something new from from you guys.

Speaker 13 (01:12:41):
Yes, a new new product that's just sort of been
launched just heading into summer, so perfectly for landscaping and
fences in sort of that sort of pagola and outside.

Speaker 2 (01:12:52):
Timber awesome have do they have a look for that now?
Clive texts there's an area of a concrete block wall
on the ground floor which used to it's obviously being
back filled against it, but they've pulled all of that away,
so the earth and the concrete pathway is gone. Should
that area be sealed before painting? So if it's beer concrete,

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how would you go about painting it?

Speaker 13 (01:13:16):
And it's sort of allowed to obviously dry out as
they've just dug it all. Well, then it would be
shore seal and then your top coat, so you could
go lumber cider or sonics one oh one or x
two hundred, depending on what sort of finished you're going
on the rest of the building.

Speaker 2 (01:13:36):
I shod at the thought that maybe this was beckfielled
against and it never had a waterproofing. Let's say there's
some old like mole seal or flint coat or something
like that that's been applied to the block. Can you
paint over that?

Speaker 13 (01:13:50):
So some well what I was told, a lot of
those creatings aren't designed to be painted. So sometimes it
doesn't work, sometimes it works. Be try a test area
and sea more recently sort of I've said it exactly
the same to people and then they've tried it and
the systems worked. So we've got membrane primer that could

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go on, or you could just try one of the
test spots. It's kind of lumbersider and there so just
try that and see if it sticks and adheres. But
sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Yeah, I mean as well,
if you're going to backfill again, you could just look
at we've got the similar sort of coding. There's other

(01:14:37):
that sort of kind of black tank line en coding
that can go on. We've got a version of it,
and there's lots of other versions that you could put
on and then backfill against again, or if you is
probably better to leave it out and just sure se
let and paint it all right.

Speaker 2 (01:14:52):
So you've got jobs to do because you're preparing for Christmas,
and that most of us do. I don't is it hippens,
But there'll be jobs waiting for me when I get home, Jake,
can I say it's it's It's always a delight to
talk with you, to yourself and to Bryce from Razine.
Really appreciate your support and your expertise throughout the year.

(01:15:13):
So wishing you and your family the boys are all
the very best for Christmas and can't wait to carry
on chatting in twenty twenty six.

Speaker 13 (01:15:22):
Cheers mate. I hope you have a good trip and
great Christmas. Always enjoyed time.

Speaker 2 (01:15:25):
We'll see how we go lovely to be in your
part of the world. All right, you take care of
ja all the best. Bye. Then your news talks of
me Jay, our painting expert from the good people at Razine.
I didn't know about this new paint that's coming out
which is kind of specifically designed for those outside landscaping jobs,
fences and that sort of thing. I'll have to check

(01:15:47):
that out and I'll tell you a bit more about
it when I see it when I get back to
New Zealand at the end of the year. Right, we're
going to take a break. We'll continue with your calls
about all things building after the break.

Speaker 1 (01:15:57):
From summer backyard jobs to big rednos. Let's talk it through.
Call Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty the resident
builder with Peter WILFCAB be.

Speaker 2 (01:16:08):
Right o your new stalksb we've got new sport whether
of course, top of the hour at eight o'clock after
the news we will also as always touch base with
root climb parts, so from eight thirty. But we're taking
your calls right now. So if you've got a question
of a building nature, it might be around the legislation,

(01:16:29):
it might be the technicalities, it might be the practical
part of it. It might be the products and tips
and tricks. You can give us a call. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty. I'm going to have a little
bit of a crack at some of the other painting
questions that came in because they're not strictly painting months. Hey,
Pete just had a few quiller floorboards replaced in the
horse float. What can I use to seal over the

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top just to give it a bit of a longer
life In saying that was only the edgeboards that needed replacing.
The rest is fine after twenty two years. And I mean, gee,
if you think that footfall on a bit of quiller
is hard work, can I only imagine hoof marks on
there as well. I would just go for the razine
deck stain and apply that. It'll just help, you know,

(01:17:14):
especially if there's moisture in there and those sorts of things.
It'll just help seal the top of the timber and
you could probably coat the entire surface. So enjoy that, Katrina.
And this is a classic too. And I had this
the other day as well. Someone who has some outside
furniture which is apparently polypropylene and it has some fiber
reinforcing in it. They bought them, they were not cheap,

(01:17:38):
but now they get itchy in the fiber strands, which
you can hardly see. I had the same thing sitting
in one of these plastic, funky looking chairs a little
while ago, thinking why is it itchy? Why is it uncomfortable? Anyway,
they were asking if there is a paint or a
sealer that can be applied to that. I will ask Bryce,

(01:18:01):
and I'm sure if you took that question along to
the Razine color shop there may well be something you
could paint. The hard thing is, no matter how good
you are at painting, it's still going to look like
a painted plastic chair, but at least it won't be
so itchy. I get that. I don't know whether this
was the right thing to do or not, but I

(01:18:22):
had some of those chairs similar to what you're describing there, Dave,
and they had got a bit fairy, they had got
a bit at cheat. I gave them. And I'm always
cautious around water blasting because I think people do a
lot of damage with the water blasting, but I gave
them a good old whack with a water blaster and
they are a little bit stripy but they are a

(01:18:43):
lot cleaner than they were, So you know, if it's
like this is its last chance. Otherwise they're in the
they're on trade me for five bucks or something like that.
Maybe hit them with the water blaster. You'd be surprised
at how tidy it brings up though, that sort of plastic.
Eight hundred eighty ten eighty, as always, is that number

(01:19:04):
to call if you've got some questions building nature. Someone
else was texting through a hollow vertical wood panel front
door that needs recoating with some water stains. It's got
water stains on it, so you need to recoat it.
Can I do a light sand? And what do I
recoat it with? What you need to know is exactly
what's on there at the moment. So if it's a polyurethane,

(01:19:27):
which is a film that goes over the top, yes
you can give it a sand, but then you'll need
to re polyurethane the entire door. Certainly, if you tried
to apply a stain to the polyurethane, it will just
sit on the surface, and in some cases it will
sit on the surface and it won't dry and it
will just go sticky and kind of ugly. As well,

(01:19:49):
so you need to be aware of that. The macrocarpa
deck that we got talking about last week on the show,
probably around the same time. I think that the idea
would be to sand it was painted, which is an
unusual thing to do to macrocarpa. Anyway, I think you're
going to have to send it and then apply a
clear seiler. Someone's just replied to the comment about the chairs,

(01:20:13):
spray on a matte clear coat onto the chairs. I've
done it and it works well. Thank you very much
for that. So a clear mate coat. You could possibly
get one of the little low volume sprayers they're pretty
cheap down at the hardware store, and get a clear
coat and just spray them with that and seal that on.
You're right, that would look a lot better than trying

(01:20:33):
to paint it in a color, because inevitably there'll be
brush marks and that sort of thing. So good luck
with that. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eight. You're
just going back to Elizabeth's call that we started with
almost top of the hor someone's text through. It amazes
me why people employ people that are dodgy. It's the

(01:20:53):
cost mentality that Kiwis have. I'm not I don't think
you're suggesting. I don't think anyone's suggesting that the reason
for the poor quality work is because someone chose the
cheapest price. I mean, I probably have said the story
a couple of times, but I remember hearing of someone
who was looking for contractors to do like a small

(01:21:14):
extension to their house. It might have been a back
in the day, one hundred and fifty thousand dollars job.
And they got quotes from eleven different builders. They got
quotes from eleven different builders. They ended up choosing the
cheapest price, and then the project didn't go well. Well,

(01:21:35):
no surprise is there. But you know, I really do
think if government are making moves to try and I
suppose give some more consumer protection to people where let's
say you've got a contractor, it starts okay and it
ends badly at the moment, the redress is really really

(01:21:57):
hard to enforce. You know, you reliant on people's good nature,
You reliant on maybe putting a bit of pressure on
people to do the right thing, but often not that easy. Radio,
we are coming up to news, sport and weather here
at News Talk Seed B. We're back straight after news
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We'll come back with more of your calls. After the news.

Speaker 16 (01:22:23):
Snoopy was certain and this was the end, when the
baron cried, doun, Merry Christmas, my friend not baron. Then
Harford a holiday toast, and Snoopy, our hero, saluted his house.

Speaker 5 (01:22:45):
And then when the.

Speaker 1 (01:22:46):
Roar sawdust, sunshine and solid advice. The resident builder with
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Speaker 2 (01:22:58):
Rodio your news Talk seed B on a Sunday morning.
If you've got a question of the building nature. If
you're thinking, gee, god, I've got two days, maybe even
three days, I can push it. Oh you've got today
as well. See you're all day today to annoy the neighbors.
Then you've got Monday, then you've got Tuesday, and if
you're really cranking through, you could I suppose you could

(01:23:18):
keep working on Wednesday to get a project done. Or
maybe you're just thinking, actually it's not going to happen,
but I'd like to get a project done between Christmas
and New Year. You've got a bit of time off
over the summer. We can talk about that project. Oh
eight hundred eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Again,
my thanks to Jay for all of his advice, to

(01:23:41):
Jay and to Bryce during the course of the years.
It's been a real pleasure to have those two gentlemen
on the show. Oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call. We're talking building and construction through
till eight thirty. Rud, as always, will join us. At
eight thirty. We'll jump into the garden, maybe even a
bit of an update on the hornets that have plagued Auckland.

(01:24:04):
At the moment, not there, continuing to catch more, but
it seems like the search area has expanded. So I
think Rud was very much of the opinion is a
very short window of time in which we could contain
that infestation or that that outbreak of these yellow legged hornets,
and thereafter it's kind of curtains RADIOAK. So we'll talk

(01:24:28):
about that with Rud. Come eight thirty your news TALKSB
We are talking building and construction. Monty, A very good
morning to you.

Speaker 12 (01:24:37):
Yes right, you'll be speak.

Speaker 2 (01:24:42):
I tell you what can I without laboring the point
Today ten twelve degrees during the day, clear skies, no
rain today, an absolutely glorious day in London and I
walked from Westminster to Bayswater in the sunshine. I might

(01:25:03):
have even got a little bit sun burnt today, just
being beautiful saying that two days ago, absolutely thoroughly miserable, like.

Speaker 12 (01:25:12):
A well believe it, fully understand and they're done that anyway.

Speaker 2 (01:25:15):
Yeah, what's on your mind?

Speaker 12 (01:25:18):
Okay? You may remember while back now you recommended this
good old suit all seiler for doing the joints in
firebrilight decking. I was just wondering, is matter curiosity as
any sort of a tape that you can do over
the top of that joint that would be flexible to
just you know, make a bit of a belt embraces

(01:25:39):
job of it.

Speaker 2 (01:25:43):
I know, the sort of thing that you're talking about.
I mean, if we're talking a tape or a reinforcing,
then you would just be using the tape rather than
a tape and a sealant. Sometimes there's like this bond
breaker that you'd put behind the sealant which would allow
it to be a bit flexible. So this is the

(01:26:05):
surface that you're applying the ceilant too. Is what again?

Speaker 12 (01:26:09):
It's just ordinary fibrili decking. And they say with the
fix all down with the gun down in the joint itself,
and I just thought, Okay, if you could lay a
tape over the top of that which was flexible, like
some sort of bead or rubber or something like that,
will it just make it just that much more durable
for the sake of a term.

Speaker 11 (01:26:30):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (01:26:34):
Do see where you're coming from. I think that if
the substrate is fixed down reasonably well and the joint
is what's the maximum five millimeters or so.

Speaker 12 (01:26:46):
Yeah, Unfortunately, when the house was built there's a bit
of variation. Is it might be about three mill up
to and yeah, I mean when it when it gets
down ready narrow, then you don't get much your room
for the stuff to expand and contract. And that's obviously.

Speaker 2 (01:27:03):
In that situation. If you were to take an old handsaw, right,
the one that you weren't particularly concerned about, and let's
say the gaps down to two millimeters or something like that,
just with a handsaw, run that through a little bit
and open the gap up, seal it, and then it
gives you somewhere to put the A decent amount of

(01:27:24):
sealant will be able to penetrate into there.

Speaker 12 (01:27:27):
Yeah, I think of it.

Speaker 2 (01:27:30):
In nine out of ten situations. If the surface is
well prepared, you apply the pseudole sealant into that space.
I don't think you're going to have an issue in
terms of it not. I mean the elasticity of it
if it's well adhered, is quite remarkable.

Speaker 12 (01:27:47):
Right right, Yeah. I think the other thing is the
when you open thjoint or rip the old stuff out.
I've got a tool act year was a useful panel beating.
It's like a very strong hook and you can actually
sort of dig down and then pull the stuff out.
Then obviously cleaning that gap as much as possible for
a and so forth. It's important otherwise to see it's

(01:28:08):
just going to be sitting in on top of a
dirty surface.

Speaker 2 (01:28:13):
Some coarse, coarse sandpaper and then brush it down really well.
In some cases it might be worth priming the edges
again and then applying the seedling.

Speaker 11 (01:28:24):
Yeah, good point, good point.

Speaker 2 (01:28:27):
Enjoy. That doesn't sound like a great job, but I'm
sure you'll make a fantastic job of it.

Speaker 12 (01:28:32):
Yeah, a fun job, as you say, Yeah, it's just.

Speaker 2 (01:28:36):
It's patience and diligence is what we're after.

Speaker 12 (01:28:40):
Yeah, Yeah, just doing a bit of the times obviously
the story. So oh, thanks for your helpful thanks, much appreciate.

Speaker 2 (01:28:46):
Much appreciated, Monty, take care And in fact, can I
just say I think Monty has hit the nail on
the head to use a suitable pun. I think that
one of the things that happens when we get frustrated
with the jobs that we want to do ourselves is
we don't give ourselves an appropriate amount of time. You know,
if you know the job's going to take two hours,

(01:29:07):
don't kid yourself and say that you'll get it done
in one, because after an hour, you get frustrated. And
I think Monty there was a real word of wisdom
in there, in the sense of going, I'm going to
pace myself. I'm going to do what I can apply.
Maybe I'd break the job into small pieces, but each
piece I'll do well and give myself enough time to
do it well. Funny, I picked up a book at

(01:29:32):
our friend's place. He's got a decent old collection, and
he's not a carpenter, but he started to get into
some quite beautiful building actually as it happens, and one
of the books is about the pleasure of making things.
What we make and why it matters is the title.
I'll go and check that in a minute. And the

(01:29:56):
basic theory or the premise of the book is there
is a delight and a pleasure in doing a job
well just for its own sake, and I quite like
that idea. I'll put up the name of the book,
or I'll go and grab it. I bought it with
me and make sure I get the name and the
author for you in just a moment. But right now,

(01:30:19):
let's talk to Mike. Hello, sifa Hi.

Speaker 11 (01:30:23):
We're in the process of purchasing a stick house that's
a brand new vote and that he's not a member
of the Master Builders Association, but he is a licensed builder,
and I'm that scared of interesting it has without some
proper warranty on it, because the consumer guarantees. That's not
hardly with what's written on it. Do you know much

(01:30:44):
about the Halo guarantee?

Speaker 2 (01:30:47):
Yep. So if a Halo guarantee is attached to that
particular project, then I'm going to presume that the person,
the builder or the contractor is a member of the
New Zealand Certified Builder so mz CB. They are the
organization that offers up the Halo warranty scheme. It's fair

(01:31:08):
to say that the way that HALO and the Master
Builders scheme work is they're not insurances. They are a
warranty scheme, whereby if there's a problem, the organization basically
pays to fix it right or helps you remediate it.

(01:31:29):
There is an insurance scheme called the Stanford Building Insurance
Scheme that's insurance backed, so that they both aim to
do the same thing, but they're slightly different schemes. I
think that if you've got if this new house has
a HALO warranty attached to it, that gives you some

(01:31:50):
surety because at least it's backed by the group right
by certified buildings. Over the years, I guess I've come
to be a little bit more suspicious of these things.
Have heard of instances where a builder has said that

(01:32:11):
the property has a warranty and when people have gone
to make a claim they found that in fact, while
they applied for one, they didn't pay for one, so
they didn't get one. Or I've heard of situations, not
necessarily with NZCB but with others where people have paid
for the warranty scheme but the builder has just pocketed

(01:32:34):
the money and never actually filled out the paperwork. So
to be sure, I would ring certified builders, give them
the address and the details and say is this property
registered with you? Is the HALO guarantee or warranty actually
in place?

Speaker 11 (01:32:53):
Yes? Because I was sort of feeling through the land agents,
we VERTI and she says, I was looking at the
HALO thing, and I think of you that the actual
purchaser had had to get that warranty. But the land
agent said the builder was prepared to put it on.
But as you say, he probably hasn't put it on yet.
Only so you're only talking about it now because I've

(01:33:15):
raised the question. But I don't like see any eight
to nine hundred has any sort of warranty.

Speaker 2 (01:33:23):
Yeah, And I guess this is where again the current
government has taken steps now to ensure that every new
build because you know, I mean right now, I don't
know how out of the twenty five thousand new buildings
that were built in the last year, last twelve months
or so, I don't know how many would have a
warranty scheme attached to them. Would it be half maybe,

(01:33:46):
would it be a quarter? Probably more likely, in which
case it leaves a lot of consumers, a lot of
people like yourself potentially exposed to a fair amount of
risk or exposed to a situation where your only redress
is to go through the courts or through a legal
process in order to get to come back and fix it.

(01:34:07):
And wouldn't Yeah, it would be. And I've spoken with
so many people for whom it's become incredibly stressful and
really quite distressing and so on, saying that it's going
to be really interesting to see because what the government
had basically said is probably by the end of next year,

(01:34:28):
all new builds and all renovations over one hundred thousand
dollars you have to be able to offer a warranty.
What's going to be quite interesting is how many builders
will be able to do that, and among you know,
within the building sector, there's a bit of chat now
that some builders might not be able to offer that,
in which case it's going to be tough on them

(01:34:50):
going forward either they've got to upscale or which is
not a bad thing. But I think consumers deserve more
protection than they've had with our current legislation and regulat framework.
So I would get in touch with mz TV, make

(01:35:10):
sure that the building that project is registered, that it's
in place, and then if it is, I would take
some certainty from.

Speaker 13 (01:35:18):
That, okay.

Speaker 11 (01:35:19):
And the other thing we are going to do is
pay files one hundred dollars and get a property inspector. Great,
just to have a look through the house, because we're
in a different town completely, we're up in the north.
This is down the South Island. So not to look
for leaks and all that sort of stuff, so much
as more building quality to make sure the you know,

(01:35:41):
I just think the work's done done to a good standard,
and get some sort of report. That would be worth it,
wouldn't it.

Speaker 2 (01:35:47):
Yes, I do believe it is. You make sure that
the person who's undertaking the work, the pre purchase inspection,
has some qualifications, because again you don't need one to
do that work. Ask them whether or not they have
insurance for the quality of their work, and and you know,
maybe get a recommendation from someone local as to the

(01:36:10):
building reports, because again I've seen pre purchase building reports
that are really really good, and I've seen some that
are terrible. And I'm presuming that the building when it
is sold will have its Certificate code compliance.

Speaker 11 (01:36:27):
Oh yes, yes, that's all done. Okay, that's all set
to go again.

Speaker 2 (01:36:32):
In the last month, I went and looked at a
property which then had another pre purchase inspection done, and
the person undertaking the work feels that the building should
never have got at CCC.

Speaker 11 (01:36:44):
Interesting.

Speaker 2 (01:36:45):
Yeah, yes, and that's that's in play at the moment. Actually,
that'll be, that'll be a really interesting little discussion soon. Hey, look,
good luck with it, ring NZCB talk about the Halo thing.
Get someone local, make sure that they're onto it, and
good luck with the sale and purchase.

Speaker 11 (01:37:02):
Very much appreciate that. Thanks so much, much.

Speaker 2 (01:37:04):
Appreciated lively chatting with you. Take care your news talks.
It'd be we're going to take short break. Then we're
going to be talking to rud I've got a couple
of people to think. We'll come back and do that
in just a.

Speaker 1 (01:37:16):
Moment, sorting those some effectses before the barbecue crowd arrives.
The resident builder with Peter Wolfcab call eight news talks.

Speaker 2 (01:37:26):
Be your news talks.

Speaker 12 (01:37:28):
It'd be.

Speaker 2 (01:37:29):
Actually, someone's just flipped through a quick text just regarding
the conversation we had with Mike Pete regarding building reports
or pre purchase reports. Do they need to be supplied
by an LBP. Look, to the best of my knowledge,
right now pre purchase building inspections there is actually a
New Zealand standard for them, so they should be able

(01:37:51):
to be proven to comply with the New Zealand standard.
But there is, to the best of my knowledge, no
regulation that says that the person undertaking them has to
be qualified in anyway, So whether that's an LBP or
a registered Building survey or anything like that, right now,
it's nothing to stop anyone from undertaking them, so that

(01:38:17):
really should change as well, I think. Right Hey, I
mentioned just before a book that I picked up off
the shelf at my mate's place, which I'm really really enjoying.
IM going to buy a copy. It's called Why We
Make Things and Why It Matters The Education of a Craftsman,
and it's written by an American gentleman called Peter Korn

(01:38:37):
so krn Peter corn Why We Make Things and Why
It Matters. I'm absolutely loving it. Again. I'll take a
photograph of the cover and I'll put it up on
social media after I've put up a picture of the
sign that I bought today at Paul's Antiques and Islington. Hey, Look,
it feels like we're the year is ending. If you're

(01:38:58):
in a business situation, chances a you've been having Christmas
parties and saying best wishes to people. I just before
we chat with through it, I want to take a
moment to thank some people that I've worked with throughout
the year. Actually I'll start where it's most important. I
want to thank you for your listenership. The program continues

(01:39:21):
to grow, continues to thrive, and that happens simply because
of your contribution to it. So thank you to you
all for your part in the program. I've loved the conversations.
I love coming to work on a Sunday and listening
to you and hopefully replying and engaging and responding. So
first up to you all, thank you for being part

(01:39:43):
of the show this year. Obviously part of my business,
part of my work is I work with a number
of partners, which is really really important, So Metro Glass,
and we've talked to the people from Metro about retro
fitting double glazing and glazing in general throughout the year.
So Metro Glass, the team there, thank you for your support.

(01:40:06):
Thus getting on to ten years that we've been working together,
really really appreciate that as well. Duke in New Zealand.
That's the team from J and L. That's the Triboard
and the Jay Frame. Gordy and all of the team.
Thank you again for your support and for the information
and for the innovation that you bring to the sector

(01:40:26):
as well. Water Tanks, that's the good team. That's Bailey
Water Tanks have been a huge supporter of the show.
I think they're doing some really important work. Particularly you know,
we still in an urban environment, tend to think about
water tanks as something that people out in the country have.

(01:40:46):
I think more and more, you know, we're looking at
it in an urban environment as well, which I think
is really exciting. So the team at Bailey Water Tanks,
thank you very much for your support. Mike Olds from
Rock Coke from Razine Construction Systems, he's been on the
show a number of times this year. Tremendous resource for

(01:41:07):
me in terms of understanding some of the complexity around
claddings and cladding systems. So the team at Crasine Construction Systems.
My thanks to all of you. Jade Promotions, We've been
working together for a while now. This is the better
home and garden shows that are around the country. One
of the highlights for my year is being able to

(01:41:27):
travel to catch up with you listeners in different parts
of the country. So already I'm booked to go to
Dunedin in February for the Home and Garden show. There
I'll be traveling around the country. I'll be in Auckland
as well. So those better home and Garden shows and
better home and living shows around the country always a pleasure.
So to Hamish and Jossh and Emily at Jade Promotions,

(01:41:51):
thank you for the work that we do together. It's
been a real pleasure for me this year to engage
with Stark Ambience uPVC. So this is u PVC joinery.
Now that I'm connected with them and working with them,
I'm wandering around here in London throughout the UK looking
at uPVC because they've had it here for a long

(01:42:12):
long time and it's proven it south here. So the
fact that Stark and Ambience UPBC is available in New
Zealand it's super exciting. Really love the contact with those
guys as well. And you know you look after your feet,
so my mates, Martin and all of the team at
Apex Boots again, my thanks to you for your support

(01:42:34):
and for looking after my feet and everybody else's as well.
If you've got your Apex boots, you know you're well
looked after. So the team at Apex Boots, so I
thank them for their contribution. I learn an enormous amount
from them, I really really do, and I'm incredibly grateful
to them. So we continue to look forward to working
with them in the new year, and I'm looking forward

(01:42:57):
to twenty twenty six. I think it'll be a pretty
challenging well, well, there is challenging this year, let's hope
not for the sector, but there's changes of foot So
if you think the changes came fast and furious in
terms of the legislation and so on this year, I
think we'll see a bit more of it next year
and some of what has talked about or has been

(01:43:18):
talked about this year will will bear fruit, let's say,
next year. And again, just on a personal note, my
thanks to Chris Pink. I've been doing this job for
about eleven years now. Without wanting to kind of ingratiate
myself with him or to be biased or anything like that.

(01:43:39):
I really can't think of a minister who's been more
engaged with the sector in the eleven years that i've
been doing the show or the twenty odd years that
i've been doing building related topics. So during the year,
he's been into the studio on two occasions. I've met
him at any number of events. It's been a top
bloke to deal with. And there's been experts that we've

(01:44:01):
had on the show. We had Mike Thornton the lawyer
a little while ago. We've had any number of experts
and whenever I've read out to them, to the team
at Brands that I went to visit earlier in the year,
looking forward to a return visit. There's some great people
out there and it's a pleasure to Haley, who is
my business manager. My thanks to you for your support

(01:44:21):
during the year. It's not an easy job looking after me,
and I thank you for the effort and the diligence
that you put into that and the support that you've
given me as well. And actually I think my mum's listening,
so given that I've been away for a little while,
I do want to say i'd a mum looking forward
to getting home and hopefully have a great Christmas with
the rest of the family and to my own family

(01:44:41):
who I'm lucky enough to be traveling with. You know,
I couldn't do this job without their support as well,
So thank you, folks. I do wish you a happy
and holy Christmas and looking forward to catching up with
Rut in just a moment. So we've got some calls
already on the line if you want to join us
and talk all things gardening in the wonderful world of entomology.

(01:45:04):
Root Climb Past is standing by. We're talking to than
just a moment.

Speaker 1 (01:45:08):
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