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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talks.

Speaker 2 (00:11):
B, Your News Talks B and UH roots with us,
we're talking all things gardening. Somebody has made the claim
that Lacel will get their ass kicked by Saint Thomas
of Kinterbury at the National Rugby League Finals today. I
don't know I'd put a dollar on that, right, Gail. Sorry,
I'm distracted by.

Speaker 3 (00:29):
It's only a gamey, It's only a game. It's like
with the All Blacks bor baggage. But we've got the
decent covered stadium that is so important.

Speaker 2 (00:39):
Absolutely right, Oh Gail, good morning and welcome, good morning.

Speaker 3 (00:45):
And what can I do for you?

Speaker 4 (00:46):
Gail?

Speaker 5 (00:48):
I want to ask about and we couldn't spell it.

Speaker 3 (00:50):
Pelagonium pelagonium yeah, hash plant?

Speaker 5 (00:56):
Well mine all flowering outside? Yeah, they're they're on tubs,
but I wanted to RePOP them, but they're all on
full flann too lags.

Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, I think you better do it when it's not flowering.
If that's if that would be a clever thing to do.
You can do it now, but I'm not sure what
happens to the flowers. They might not like it very much.

Speaker 5 (01:19):
Okay, and I give them a feet off the main time.

Speaker 3 (01:25):
In the mean, what I would do now is I
would give them some liquid fertilizer if you water them
in the pot anyway. What you said, it's Julian, and
I just said it's chet because it's been pretty dry
in Canterbury. Actually and we're actually we're actually sprinkling, sprinkling
the garden, which is ridiculous, but there you are. But
the point is that if you have to water them,

(01:45):
for instance, anyway, because it's dry, get a liquid fertilizer.
You know, I use the wet and forget stuff, you know, yeah,
that sort of stuff there you go, Yeah, seeweet and
seafoot soup. And in this case you always add, because
it's flowering, add a little bit of potash sulfate of potash.

Speaker 5 (02:03):
A little bit.

Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yeah, yeah, because that makes the play, don't said, buds.
That's brilliant.

Speaker 5 (02:10):
Oh well, that's very kind.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Thank you very much, and welcome girl.

Speaker 2 (02:13):
Go well very mistery girl. You take care and tom
a very good morning to you.

Speaker 4 (02:20):
Good morning from Yeah, it's a lovely day, amazing morning.
I got a question the rules, Yeah, good, I got
a I got a plant that you probably recognize, but
I don't know the name. It's growing Central Criterchurch is
going our garden. It's got a massive ring leave and
the flower just coming up. It's a very long flower.
Somebody told me once the poisonous flowers. But if this

(02:44):
plant go, I can read everywhere. Every time I try
to dig it out, I just to realize how big
the roots are just going forever. All of me is
that the plant, these plants growing near some amazing tree
that i'mbody wearing to put some anything on top of them,
that it might slip into the three roots. How do

(03:04):
I get rid of it?

Speaker 3 (03:05):
Well, this this is the thing, Thomas, to be quite honest,
The best way to do is to get that weed
identified and I can work with that. The other thing
you can do is actually get yourself a weed killer
and make sure that you are just hitting the leaves
of the plant that you want to get rid of.

(03:26):
If you do that gently and it won't dribble too
much into the root zone of the trees that are nearby,
then you probably can get away with it. But honestly,
it's really hard if I don't know what it is,
and there are just saying there are some really cool
apps these days that you can put on your smartphone.
And the famous app that I use is I Natura

(03:49):
List one word, I Naturalist. If you can put it
on you, if you can put it on your phone,
you will very quickly learn. You use name in a
password cost you nothing, but that app will quite quickly
tell you what the plant is. And when you have
that name of the plant, you can then google that
name of the plant or that weed and you'll find

(04:11):
all the sort of clever ways of controlling it.

Speaker 4 (04:15):
But there's no risk if I put something on the
lift that it's go through the lift, through the plant
roots and then find the three roots.

Speaker 3 (04:23):
That no, no, that usually won't happen if you use
If you use a systemic we call that a systemic
weed killer, that means that the plant that is being
sprayed will actually translocate that particular weed killer right through
the whole weed, and that means it's far more effective.
But it will not go to another plant nearby unless

(04:46):
you spray the other plant.

Speaker 4 (04:48):
No, no, I thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (04:50):
Yeah, there you go, easy go.

Speaker 2 (04:52):
Well, absolutely good luck to you. Tom, thank you very
much for that. And Kate on there we go, Kate
Good morning to you, hi.

Speaker 6 (05:01):
High paid, high roots. May I ask might need a
bit of joint, is I hear? But I've got an
ornamental cherry tree and I need to put some permeable
parking next to it. And I need to take off
the top soil and get down to a layer where
I can put the metal and compact it prior to

(05:21):
doing the parking pad.

Speaker 7 (05:24):
This tree was probably old when I bought the property.
I've had it for twenty one years and it's a
fifty year old property, so it's got to be there
for a while. It's just a darling one that blooms
in August, and I don't want to damage the roots
when I shave off the top soil. And I don't

(05:44):
think the permeable material on top is going to be
a problem because the water.

Speaker 6 (05:48):
Will get through to it. Can I make sure I
don't It's only half of the tree that I'll be
affecting half of the roots. If I damage some of
those in taking off the top soil and putting this
material down, will the tree be all right?

Speaker 3 (06:05):
Not necessary? I think you've got to be a bit
careful with it. Can you make that parking area on
top of the current soil that's there.

Speaker 6 (06:18):
I don't know, peach can I.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
The issue with not removing the top soil is that
the top soil has less resistance, let's say, to compaction.
So you know, from building point of view, you go
back down to the clay and that sort of thing
and then build up from there. Because top soil is softer,
that's why things grow on it. So but I would imagine,
and I've had to do this where we've used an

(06:40):
excavator around the tree and you know roud, you know,
there's all of those beautiful little fibrous roots that are
just underneath the surface, and removing those is going to
have an impact on the tree, saying that removing a
small part of it might not or the tree or
recover certainly. Look, I've had to do excavations where we've

(07:01):
gone through or you know, doing like services through the
tree roots, and we've had bust on site and trim
the edge of the tree, you know, rather than just
rip it out with a digger. You try and remove
them cleanly and treat the end of it and so on.
But I'd be pretty cautious. I'd have to say, yeah,
you know, you could see the tree sulkin, couldn't you Ye.

Speaker 3 (07:21):
Would see that. But also so you're not going to
put a concrete on it.

Speaker 2 (07:25):
It's a permeable material.

Speaker 3 (07:26):
That's right. So in that case you can put it
on top of those roots. But that means you might
need a little bit of a way to get up
on that car park if that's too much. You know,
four inches shouldn't be a big deal, should.

Speaker 2 (07:41):
It, I think, Kate, you know, rather like typically we'd go,
We're going to get in there with a digger. I'm
going to rip out anything that's nice and brown sort
of thing and go to clay. Right, But in your instance,
if it's just for a car park, and if it's
not an area that's servicing other properties and all the
rest of it, maybe I'd take an approach where I
just took the absolute minimum off, put some compacted hard

(08:03):
fill underneath it, geotextile, craft, compacted heart. I feel, do
your permeable thing, and if, for example, in three or
four five years time, the pavers need to be lifted
and re sanded and brought up to level, I'd accept that.
Over the tree dyeing would be my approach.

Speaker 6 (08:20):
So do you think that pavers would be my best option.
That that that plastic stuff that you.

Speaker 3 (08:26):
Fill with stones, right, that's so that's not that's no exactly,
you can do both. Yeah, No, you're absolutely right.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
Yeah, that's a good option because there is quite a
distinction between you know, regular pavers and permeable pavers. They
are two very separate things.

Speaker 3 (08:42):
Yeah, so you're recommending you'll find it the tree. No
that what I'm what I'm saying is why not take
as little as you can off and build it slightly
up above the roots. You'll find that the roots will
find their other way back down and to the side
and all that sort of stuff. That is your least
damage option.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
And to answer your question, Kate, I think if you
are prepared to have you loose metal there but in
that honeycomb system, that's probably the lowest impact. So that's
probably a really good solution. In fact, I created one
a couple of years ago for some bin storage, and
it's right underneath the camellia tree. You know, Okay, it's
not traffickable and all the rest of it, but I

(09:23):
use that material. The tree is absolutely fine. So that
might be a good solution. Cake all the very best
to you. It is eight forty two here at news
Talk c B will take short break back in a
mow'd climb past with us as well. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty the number to call Ada. Good morning, Oh, good.

Speaker 8 (09:39):
Morning to you boys. I won't try not to keep
you too long. But my gap, my daughter's just moved
to another place. And she went to plan to vegie
garden yesterday and it's full of ents and so Aho
pop plants. She lives in the lower we're small in
the area.

Speaker 3 (09:58):
In christ Church, yes, yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 8 (10:02):
Sorry, And she put great jewels. She threw grade jewels,
those little gudgele things all over the garden and watered
it in. Was that the thing to do?

Speaker 3 (10:14):
You mean? And ant stuff an ant bait or something? Okay,
I don't know. It depends on how those nts react
to that. It's always very tricky with ants because they
have many different there might be many different colonies, and
they all have their own little territory if you like,
so you will need to be this is the this
is it isn't it? It's interesting because I don't have

(10:37):
too much. I'm just on the porthills, just on Kenny's boys.

Speaker 8 (10:41):
I think she got quite a shock. I don't think
she likes saints very much. And I didn't realize when
she went to plant with vegis there was all these
ents in the soil, and.

Speaker 3 (10:53):
You're sure their ants, it must be I suppose. Yeah, okay,
look to be quite as what I would do is
I would put some bait around your vegetable garden, and debates,
and debates you can get, of course from the various places,
you know, the various garden centers and all that sort
of stuff. There's ants in your pants from wit and Forget,

(11:14):
which is pretty good. The point is that you need
to put bait stations on a regular basis every two
or three meters because these ants adhere to their own territory.
You know what I mean.

Speaker 8 (11:28):
Them better, don't you got?

Speaker 3 (11:34):
Yeah, well it's you know. But then on the other hand,
what do those ants do to the plants? Are they
killing them? Are they do anything nasty?

Speaker 8 (11:41):
No, she isn't even parted me.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Well, then in that case, don't even worry about it.

Speaker 8 (11:47):
I thought that too bad. Then I think she got
a bit of a shop because there are any pot
plants as well.

Speaker 3 (11:54):
Yeah, but that's okay. They can go in pot plants,
but at some stage they will have to find their
food elsewhere unless these things are flowering as some ants
have eat if you like protein know which means protein
material which is not plants or some ants eat nectar
and right, and your pot plants, if there is no

(12:15):
nectar in, there's of nothing flowering, then they're basically using
the pots as a place to live. In that case,
I would do something about it to make sure that
they don't make holes and and and and you know
what I mean. And keep the leaves and keep the sorry,
the roots of your plants that you plant in the
pot plant away in the dangling in mid air. You

(12:36):
don't want that. So in pot plants, I can imagine
in the garden, I wouldn't even worry too much.

Speaker 8 (12:41):
No, they say, I'm Scottic, say, well, thinks anyway, that's
sort of helped a lot.

Speaker 2 (12:47):
There you go, you take care, Okay, Hello there, Hello, how.

Speaker 9 (12:55):
Are you love? Listening to your program? Both of you
on a Sunday.

Speaker 3 (12:59):
Thank you.

Speaker 9 (13:01):
I'm wanting to know could you help me? I'm wanting
to plant some strawberries. Never had any luck with them
at all, but I bought some more yesterday about what
to put in the soil or what to do.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
First, First of all, full sun, that's the place. Yeah, okay,
number two, this is what I did yes literally this
last week. I got a whole lot of really good
top soil with some compost. I mixed it up fifty
to fifty so soil and compost, and soil is different
from compost, so mix that up. So it's nice and friable.

(13:36):
And you know what I mean with friable. That means
that the roots can easily get into it. And it's about,
you know, three or four inches thick if you like.
And it contains some literally fertilizers, some material in the
compost that the plants can use as nutrients. I put
them in rows about twenty centimeters apart, if you like.

(14:01):
And the where you go, you'll find that they will
take off in no time.

Speaker 9 (14:06):
We've got blood and bone, nitroposca, and ebbs and salts
and liquid stuff. Would I put some of this around?

Speaker 3 (14:15):
First of all, I just read a really interesting article Epps.
Some salt is not a fertilizer officially. There you go.
You can use it, but I wouldn't do that. I
would use your nitroposca blue boom, just like that.

Speaker 9 (14:28):
Yeah, and or around and underneath or around the top.

Speaker 3 (14:32):
Put it as you're making this material, you know, if
that mixture that I'm talking about, and you put a
handful to a cubic meter or no, no cubic you
put a handful of that stuff around the plant and
into the potting mix or into the mix that you're
planting the plants in. You'll find that that is enough
for quite a long time because the moment it rains,
the bar Fosca blue will basically become liquid and be

(14:56):
near the roots of the plants.

Speaker 9 (14:58):
And feed them. Yes, I've never had any luck with them,
so I thought I'll give it another go. Yes, not
doing the right thing.

Speaker 3 (15:06):
No, no, no, you're doing the right thing. But don't
go just to to if you like funny fertilizers like
the other stuff. You know, if you've got an NPK fertilizer,
you should be getting good tomatoes. A little bit of
potash would do sometimes, EASi yeah, yeah, but potash well

(15:27):
is good for plants, making fruit and making fun.

Speaker 2 (15:32):
All right, you y, you take care you do just quickly.
I went to see a play last night. This has
got nothing to do with gardening, but it was because
you like theater.

Speaker 3 (15:44):
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2 (15:45):
So we went to see a play called in other Words,
and it's a two person play with Michael Hurst and
Jennifer ward Leyland on stage. That it was spectacular, absolutely stunning.
Tough topic because it was about dementia and watching one
partner go down that path, but as a theater, my goodness,

(16:07):
talk about captivating just the two of them hour and
a bit long. It was absolutely amazing. So it's on
for the rest of the week. It's great.

Speaker 3 (16:15):
Imagine having to remember the whole script.

Speaker 2 (16:18):
I know, and watching it. Yeah, that's right. Michael Hurst
played that character who was going into that that journey
was his journey in the in the play, it was God,
it was just fantastic. You know, I'll just say that
because we both like it at Art and Culture. Leslie,
good morning, Oh.

Speaker 3 (16:36):
Good morning.

Speaker 8 (16:38):
I was just wondering if you could re remind me
of the name of the flex cutting sickle that you
talked about available.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
I think it's called knee washy.

Speaker 2 (16:49):
Knee washy. Yeah, was remember.

Speaker 3 (16:52):
Oh this is you know what, I've just put that
on the script for Jack Dame for this coming Saturday,
brilliant my favorite tool round the garden, and the knee
washy still is one of my favorite doors.

Speaker 9 (17:05):
Oh great, thank you very much.

Speaker 3 (17:07):
Was great. See.

Speaker 2 (17:09):
And it's funny how we get used to our favorite
ones because I isn't it like I got one of
those little just a two prong gardening fork, which I
actually it's really bloody great. I love it. It's a
nice wooden handle on it. It's an English one.

Speaker 5 (17:25):
Yea.

Speaker 3 (17:25):
Oh, by the way, by the way, just you know,
you know, you know the Dutch you know the spelled
Dutch snaboor snay boy you know b o e r
snaboy s s n e e snaboard yap Snabor is
a guy that I met at the L. D. Flowershow
long long time ago, and I've been in touch with
him everythings, and there is I think Gabba, Yes, I

(17:48):
do his range of tools. He's got a fabulous hole
which is called the Royal hole. I like the Dutch
Dutch family. Yeah, there you go, Dutch royal family, the
royal three time and a hole at the same time.
And it will do anything you wanted to do in
the garden.

Speaker 2 (18:07):
Go for it, Peter, fabulous, fabulous right, last one from you, Scott,
A very good morning to you.

Speaker 10 (18:13):
Yeah, good morning.

Speaker 4 (18:14):
Hey.

Speaker 10 (18:14):
I'm I've got a fellow cherry tree that's about the
tall and head of about eight years. Last year. I
noticed that the leaves were really tiny, and what players
and developed into small propped off and it's possibly dyed
this year. So I was just wondering what nutrient sits
are saying.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Okay, it's a cherry tree, and the leaves were quite
small compared to what they used to be. Yeah, yeah,
And did they have a grayish sheen on them as well?

Speaker 10 (18:46):
Now I thought that, right, Gretin still oh.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Still bright green? Okay, Well, it sounds to me like
it is one of those weird diseases that those trees
sometimes get. And and I and I'm not it's very
hard to identify, just you know, over the phone and
things like that. If you think this tree has died,
I would suggest not planting a ornamental cherry in the

(19:13):
same spot, because often those particular fungal diseases go into
the soil and remain there for many years as spores,
and they will reinfect whatever you put in there, So
get something of a totally different genius. Definitely different origin
of tree.

Speaker 10 (19:31):
Could I put like an upstone prooven this like some or.

Speaker 3 (19:38):
No, I wouldn't go to that same family. That's that
is a good question. By the way, I wouldn't do
that because I can't be without knowing what it is,
what it was that killed it. It could well be
something that goes for these particular things.

Speaker 4 (19:53):
Yeah, thanks very much.

Speaker 3 (19:57):
Sorry to be the pair of bad news. Yeah, I wouldn't.
I wouldn't risk it.

Speaker 2 (20:02):
Cycle of life, isn't it.

Speaker 3 (20:04):
That's exactly what it's about.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
Yeah, absolutely, mate, have a great day, have a great week.
And then I go now, yeah I think so.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, I'll have a coffee. Yeah yeah, let's have you
for coffee.

Speaker 2 (20:13):
All right, let's do that. Thank you, thanks folks for
your company. Real pleasure. Now as it happens, I'm on
the road. Actually I'm traveling quite a bit over the
next couple of weeks. So next Saturday, I'm going to
be in Wellington at the Home and Garden Show, So
Populo say hello. I'll be doing a presentation probably around
midday check the title, but it's the Home and Garden

(20:34):
Show and Wellington next weekend, so looking forward to that.
Hopefully it's good weather, and hopefully there's still some cafes open.

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