April 26, 2025 • 18 mins
On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for 27th April 2025, Ruud explains where to best place indoor plants, how to deter whitefly from your vegetables, and how to break down compost.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talks.
Speaker 2 (00:11):
It B your News Talks B. We're talking all things
gardening that hauld climb past.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good morning, sir Piedro.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
How are you very well and very well?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Did you ever get.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Around to talk about fly poop on the med ceiling surface?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
No, I did see that text. I mean, it's it's
really hard to get rid of, are they.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
No, it's not because it's not fly poop, it's fly vomit.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh, that makes me feel much better. And pray, tell
why do flies the site to vomit on the ceilings?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
They're the only creatures that I know in that we're
formed upside down.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I was gonna say that the dynamics, the engineering, the
playing involved as spectacular fly.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Pool is so small you'll never find it in your
spaghetti bononnaise.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right, please smell that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But one day, what is it?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Regurgitation?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, it's regurd That's how they eat.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
They eat by literally regurgitating, and that's what becomes that
little black thing. And I reckon it's something. Actually, it's
actually quite an interesting thing to think about. I should
really look at this one day to see why that
is so absolutely hard to get off services sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Because it dries, you know, it becomes like crusty and
moisture resistant almost exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And that's and I think that's pretty clever if you
think about it, it's very It's probably.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
A chemical application for the product, you know, it's like
a filler or something like.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, we call it biomemicry. Learning from nature. How do
you make the most stuff in the world. I think
raisine should be looking. They could make it a fly
vomit paint color, you.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There might be a marketing issue there. Hey, I'll tell
you what. The other story that fascinated me this week
is the invasion of the millipedes. Yes, and on the
South Coast and Wellington.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The Portuguese millipede.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I've never seen them, and they've been here for quite
a while now, right, I've never seen a millipede. Have
got this lovely way of smelling out or finding out
where your staircase is at the back door. And if
it gets nice and wet, they will have to go
up before they drown, so they climb up. But on
the other hand, they will find places where they can
actually find their food. And it's all of course about composting,
(02:31):
all right, you know, rubbishy stuff. That's what they do.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Because the article that I read this week, people are
like really distressed. There's lots of them. There are a
confined spaces and geographically located, and almost nothing you can
do to stop them or prevent them.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
No, I've just one of the old pitfall trap would work,
so that you have let's say, a thing that you
dig into the ground with the lid open, something execu
you got it. But then with something that they really enjoy,
so I can all go to that big thing and
then you have a whole jet jar full of that
of those creatures and all you do is toss them
(03:12):
over the fence. What depends on how you get on
with your neighbors.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, well I think if you've buffed them over, they'll
be back. Yes, there will be how fascinating. But yeah,
it seems I guess this is the whole thing with
introduced species, isn't it it is?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, they have a nish and they'll go for it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah. Right here, let's get amongst the calls. Diane, A
very good morning to you.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Good morning, Peter Rudge. How are you doing.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
We're good Thank you, Dane. What are you going to
do with this wonderful pandoria? It just me noides, Yes,
I just want to know.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I've got a tiny home with a huge dick, and
I want to grow up the pole and along and
across to the other pole, which I've got four poles.
It's number two and number three poles, so it's sort
of in the middle. Yeah, the decks like fourteen by
four and a half or something meters. Yeah, I want
(04:12):
to know whether I can grow it in a half
wine barrel up on the deck or whether I drop
it down into the raised garden below, because the deck
and house is about ninety off the ground and then
there's a raised garden below. Would it be happier in
the raised garden, which is only about probably forty centimeters deep,
(04:35):
or would it be okay in the in the wooden
you know, wine barrel.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Have you got room for a big wine barrel?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, four and a half meters wide the deck.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And okay, all right, just sayings long. Yeah, But the
nice thing about a big wine barrel is that it
is not just that particular pondoria plant or the bower
vine as they call it, that you could have in
that wine barrel. You could have other things growing out
of that wine barrel too. Then I'm just asking you
to get enough space.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
That's all it is.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
But yeah, that would be nice as long as you
make sure that it's in reasonably good light. Not completely
full sunlight the whole day, but most of the time
partial shade is okay too. But the soil has to
be nice and well drained.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, So what do I put in the bottom of
the barrel to make sure that it's that it's.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Trained to a hot No, a hole in the bottom
of the barrel so that water can get down get out.
So if you get something like we had in christ
Church with this amazing rain a couple of weeks ago
a couple of week ago, that really left a lot
of water everywhere, and without a hole in a barrel,
for instance, that would stay there and cause all sorts
(05:54):
of root rots.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah, and you need to get with it for the
frost because I live in a wire referra and I
can almost touch the terrors.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, it is awesome. I shoot it from ten acres
in Mangrel Valley where those horrible little centipede things are
Three and a half years ago. And yeah, it is
beautiful that the view is stunning, but the frosts are
really hard. So if I put if I somehow pop
(06:33):
on the pole above it and protected it while it's young.
Because another house I had one and it was.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
You couldn't kill it.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It was amazing. That was under a verandah as well,
but it was well established when we bought that house
where it is growing from a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You don't really want it to. I would say it
doesn't like too much, too heavy, frost, too heavy, So
that means protection, and that also means a regular taking
off of anti frost anti frost cloth that you can
put over the top. It's if you're up for that, yeah,
I think you could do it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, and you do. You have to keep it off
the leaves.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yes, if it's if you've got a good frost, if
you go to one in the direction of Mount Holdsworth,
for instance, I think it would be pretty cool there.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Good god, it will be cold.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, it's cold.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I know, I go.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I usually take kids and teachers there and the ire
wrap quite often and go to those places, especially in summer.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But I can imagine that in winter.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah, it's pretty stunning looking out at the snow, and
it soon warms up, you know, once some comes down.
But it's pretty awesome if I make that frost club
like a like attach it to the pole and bring
it down so that I can have it like a
like a tent.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, yeah, you can do that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, you can do that. You can do that. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Good luck with that, Diane. All the very best to you.
Oh Wa eight one hundred and eighty ten eight. If
you've got a question for it, Darren, good morning, good.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Morning, question for you. You talk about putting meme oil
on your vegetable garden. Yeah, for whitefly and everything else.
Those lots of meme oil I've bought. This one says
right at the bottom, keep out of reach of children.
Do not apply on animal or food feed crops.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Okay, safety use.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
On my vegetables or not, because both of the lots
of water feed don't use.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I must.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I must admit I've heard this before with certain food
crops or with name materials, and I think it has
something to do with their if you like their strength,
the strength of the of the of the kneeme oil.
In this case, I have never really had any hassles
with it because I planted it. For instance, I used
kneeme oil on tomatoes every now and then before they
(09:06):
are ripe, and that means that you get rid of
your white fly in this case, before it all becomes it.
Everything is starting to be harvested, and I reckon that
might be the way to go. You could also use
any other oils you like, such as Conqueror oil, which
I'm sure you can put on your plants.
Speaker 9 (09:28):
Okay, so you shouldn't spread it on your plants, like
my tomatoes and my glass yas are still all fruiting.
I shouldn't pay it on.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I would wouldn't do it now, but I would. I
would do something else like conqueror oil. Yeah, okay, there
you go.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Does that answer your question?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's the diming is important.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I suppose.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It never used to be like that. I am not
one hundred percent sure why knee oil has suddenly become
a bit of like a ooh, not too much.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Was the case when it came out twenty thirty years ago,
you know, when we started using it.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
But there you go.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
If you're if you're not sure about it, go to
conquer oil.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
For that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You take care there, Phil, Hello there good?
Speaker 8 (10:17):
How are you good?
Speaker 9 (10:19):
Mate?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Excellent? I'm not quite sure how to how to word
this question to route there. I h a few years
ago I had the fire going and I picked up
what I thought was just a bit of black coal,
you know, like an ember, and I and I threw
it in the four. I just thought it was a
bit of burnt, wouldn't that But that made this horrible
(10:44):
screeching sound for a second or two, and I thought,
and I thought it must have been a bug. So
and I feel horrible because you know, it sounded like
it was an agony and the pain it was just
for a second or two. So what I was going
to ask rout was it?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
What did it?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
If it was a bug? Do I feel pain? And
what it has suffered durably? If it may? It sounds
silly question to ask, but it's just something that is
kind of always sort of set with, you know that
I might have it might have been a bug, and
it just made this horrible screet It sounds like what
sort of pain do bugs feel? In junior it would
(11:24):
have been he might know what it might even be. Well,
it just looked like a black sort of little lump
of barent wood.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, I know, you can, you do you roughly know
what it would have been that thing that made that noise, by.
Speaker 8 (11:37):
The way, No, No, that's it's always That's what's always
intrigued me, is it because it just looks like a
hank of burnt wood?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
It was small. It was just small, and I just
picked it up through it and it just went like
we're a sect and I thought, oh my god, it's
all the way with plenty of bugs. I'm just wondering
how much pain bags generally feel. Do feel pain?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
To be quite honest, I do not know if they
feel more pain or whether that is very I think
it might be different for some some species, you know,
for bigger species, sports species, et cetera. I don't know
if they really have that pain system that we have,
which is exactly and I'm quite sure it's not exactly
(12:20):
the same. But what they do have is the ability
to go like that when they feel that they're being threatened,
and that is not so much a thing of pain.
That's a matter of I've got to get out of here,
and the noise that I'm making will warn whoever is
having a go at me to watch out because I could,
for instance, bite or sting or do anything else. So
(12:42):
there are communications things, but whether they are related to
a feeling of pain, I am not sure.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It'd be quite.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Honest, had to ef I do research on that.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I suppose so, because you can't say it's right on
a run from zero to to ten?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
How much pain do you feel?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Not for long? Right, we're back after the break. Thanks
for you call, Phil. We'll talk to Steve straight after
the break. It seems like to those people upset about
the sound out for fire, it sounds like it's probably
just guesses coming out of the object that he threw
in there, as opposed to something animate.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I'd like the look though at pain though, Peter, and
it is interesting things, of course, Ai who says yes,
growing evidence suggests that insects do feel pain, etc. I
can't stand it anyway, But later on you get insects
can feel acute pain of damage being done, such as squishing, cutting,
and burning, but not damage already there, So do they
(13:45):
feel I still don't know if they feel it or not.
I just help the feeling. We haven't really looked at
this properly yet, to be quite honest, other things on
the internet is like, indeed, insects are capable of no
se sception, which is they can detect and respect to injury,
you know, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
But it's it depends on how big they are and.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
How how much yeah, how they are built, you know,
and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I guess the question is are they sentiment as in,
you know, exactly and we feel pain because we know
how to explain it.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That's right, But they can also avoid painful situations, right,
which is.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Exactly there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
So yeah, it's it's a bit here, there and everywhere,
and god knows who does and who doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You know, some interesting texts.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I looked out the window the other day. My plum
tree has got blossoms on it.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, I know, it happens every now and then.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I know. I'm looking at it going. And of course
the lawns have gone nuts, which is awesome because we've
had such a dry summer, which has been lovely rain
a bit of rain and it's still warm and everything
has gone gang busters. The weeds are up, the lawns
are up, the plum tree has got blossoms, crazy stuff. Right,
A quick call from you, Steve, Greetings.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Oh high team, Just a quick one year. I make
myself a raised garden the wall back there. I had
a big lump of dirt in the backyard and I
thought the cunning why getting out of it would be
the bull raised garden.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
So I thought it. I'd follow it up with all
the goodies. I'll put chicken poo and fish heads. And
the main thing I put in is I got off
with a whole lot of lord clippings from the from
the lawn bowling club and there was sort of mud
when I picked it up, and I'll put it in
about two months ago, and I've put lime all through it.
And it's whether it's been fine or whatever, it's just
mud and it hasn't changed.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That is because there is no carbon and no other
bits and pieces on it. When you make compost, this
is really important, Steve. And there's the time to do
it for its as you get leaves from trees that
fall off and you use that to make compost with
you need and compost is mostly nitrogen. You also need
carbon to help to break that nitrogen down. And if
(15:53):
you've got too much carbon. You need the leaves to
help to break the carbon down.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
So you do it intually, put a lot of leaves
in there.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, but you also need wood and chips, wood chips, Okay,
that's carbon, right, And the and the idea is that
you need about sixty seventy percent of of carbon to
about say thirty twenty to thirty percent of green material
to break it down and make the right cohesion of
(16:24):
compost the.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Right Okay, look, I'll be extended. It looks like I'll
be extending my race garden a little better foot higher
than Yes.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yes, not only that, but also from now on, you
know that there is a ratio of seventy to thirty
of wood and non wood, the leave type of things.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
That is what makes you good compost.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Okay, I have it ready for next year.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
You will mate.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Thanks tame awesome by because I mean, I know it
sounds simple. You take some soil, we're not calling it dirt.
I had some other stuff and magically it's there. But
in terms of getting the right composition to create the
ideal environment, there's more elements involved, seemingly.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Exactly, and there is a lot. So literally, if you
now walk into a forest or luck. He suggested to
go to Hagley Park this afternoon and go for a lot.
It's beautiful and you basically see that not only leaves
come down, but branches have been coming down all the
time and are covered by the leaves and slowly that
particular seventy to thirty mix is happening under a tree
(17:31):
or under a forest, and that's exactly how you get
your composts.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So I'm distracted slightly by this text that's come through,
and you know, if it was on the chase, then
it must be true. Good morning. A recent question on
the chase was do in six field pain? The answer
was yes, they do, so.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, well we take that as definitive scientific proof.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, and it.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Depends on what species you're talking about. Absolutely, Peter, that's
absolutely tiny ones and they've got see the tiny ones
like aphis don't have much room for for things like
neurological catching canals in their body.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's the detail. It's the detail. Radio. Hey, lovely to
talk to you.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Can we go now yet?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Coning and the duch this week as well.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
It's good conning stera coning stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, yeah, and then we'll do it next week.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
Take care for more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp.
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Speaker 2 (00:11):
It B your News Talks B. We're talking all things
gardening that hauld climb past.
Speaker 3 (00:16):
Good morning, sir Piedro.
Speaker 4 (00:19):
How are you very well and very well?
Speaker 3 (00:22):
Did you ever get.
Speaker 4 (00:23):
Around to talk about fly poop on the med ceiling surface?
Speaker 5 (00:27):
Uh?
Speaker 2 (00:27):
No, I did see that text. I mean, it's it's
really hard to get rid of, are they.
Speaker 4 (00:32):
No, it's not because it's not fly poop, it's fly vomit.
Speaker 2 (00:37):
Oh, that makes me feel much better. And pray, tell
why do flies the site to vomit on the ceilings?
Speaker 4 (00:46):
They're the only creatures that I know in that we're
formed upside down.
Speaker 2 (00:50):
I was gonna say that the dynamics, the engineering, the
playing involved as spectacular fly.
Speaker 4 (00:57):
Pool is so small you'll never find it in your
spaghetti bononnaise.
Speaker 2 (01:01):
Right, please smell that.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
But one day, what is it?
Speaker 2 (01:07):
Regurgitation?
Speaker 3 (01:08):
Yeah, it's regurd That's how they eat.
Speaker 4 (01:10):
They eat by literally regurgitating, and that's what becomes that
little black thing. And I reckon it's something. Actually, it's
actually quite an interesting thing to think about. I should
really look at this one day to see why that
is so absolutely hard to get off services sometimes.
Speaker 2 (01:28):
Because it dries, you know, it becomes like crusty and
moisture resistant almost exactly.
Speaker 4 (01:34):
And that's and I think that's pretty clever if you
think about it, it's very It's probably.
Speaker 2 (01:38):
A chemical application for the product, you know, it's like
a filler or something like.
Speaker 4 (01:43):
Yeah, we call it biomemicry. Learning from nature. How do
you make the most stuff in the world. I think
raisine should be looking. They could make it a fly
vomit paint color, you.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (01:56):
There might be a marketing issue there. Hey, I'll tell
you what. The other story that fascinated me this week
is the invasion of the millipedes. Yes, and on the
South Coast and Wellington.
Speaker 3 (02:06):
The Portuguese millipede.
Speaker 4 (02:07):
I've never seen them, and they've been here for quite
a while now, right, I've never seen a millipede. Have
got this lovely way of smelling out or finding out
where your staircase is at the back door. And if
it gets nice and wet, they will have to go
up before they drown, so they climb up. But on
the other hand, they will find places where they can
actually find their food. And it's all of course about composting,
(02:31):
all right, you know, rubbishy stuff. That's what they do.
Speaker 2 (02:34):
Because the article that I read this week, people are
like really distressed. There's lots of them. There are a
confined spaces and geographically located, and almost nothing you can
do to stop them or prevent them.
Speaker 4 (02:50):
No, I've just one of the old pitfall trap would work,
so that you have let's say, a thing that you
dig into the ground with the lid open, something execu
you got it. But then with something that they really enjoy,
so I can all go to that big thing and
then you have a whole jet jar full of that
of those creatures and all you do is toss them
(03:12):
over the fence. What depends on how you get on
with your neighbors.
Speaker 2 (03:15):
Yeah, well I think if you've buffed them over, they'll
be back. Yes, there will be how fascinating. But yeah,
it seems I guess this is the whole thing with
introduced species, isn't it it is?
Speaker 4 (03:25):
Yeah, they have a nish and they'll go for it.
Speaker 2 (03:29):
Yeah. Right here, let's get amongst the calls. Diane, A
very good morning to you.
Speaker 5 (03:36):
Good morning, Peter Rudge. How are you doing.
Speaker 4 (03:39):
We're good Thank you, Dane. What are you going to
do with this wonderful pandoria? It just me noides, Yes,
I just want to know.
Speaker 5 (03:49):
I've got a tiny home with a huge dick, and
I want to grow up the pole and along and
across to the other pole, which I've got four poles.
It's number two and number three poles, so it's sort
of in the middle. Yeah, the decks like fourteen by
four and a half or something meters. Yeah, I want
(04:12):
to know whether I can grow it in a half
wine barrel up on the deck or whether I drop
it down into the raised garden below, because the deck
and house is about ninety off the ground and then
there's a raised garden below. Would it be happier in
the raised garden, which is only about probably forty centimeters deep,
(04:35):
or would it be okay in the in the wooden
you know, wine barrel.
Speaker 3 (04:42):
Have you got room for a big wine barrel?
Speaker 6 (04:46):
Oh?
Speaker 5 (04:46):
Yeah, four and a half meters wide the deck.
Speaker 4 (04:49):
And okay, all right, just sayings long. Yeah, But the
nice thing about a big wine barrel is that it
is not just that particular pondoria plant or the bower
vine as they call it, that you could have in
that wine barrel. You could have other things growing out
of that wine barrel too. Then I'm just asking you
to get enough space.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
That's all it is.
Speaker 4 (05:09):
But yeah, that would be nice as long as you
make sure that it's in reasonably good light. Not completely
full sunlight the whole day, but most of the time
partial shade is okay too. But the soil has to
be nice and well drained.
Speaker 5 (05:25):
Yeah, So what do I put in the bottom of
the barrel to make sure that it's that it's.
Speaker 4 (05:32):
Trained to a hot No, a hole in the bottom
of the barrel so that water can get down get out.
So if you get something like we had in christ
Church with this amazing rain a couple of weeks ago
a couple of week ago, that really left a lot
of water everywhere, and without a hole in a barrel,
for instance, that would stay there and cause all sorts
(05:54):
of root rots.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Yeah, and you need to get with it for the
frost because I live in a wire referra and I
can almost touch the terrors.
Speaker 7 (06:07):
Nice.
Speaker 5 (06:08):
Yeah, it is awesome. I shoot it from ten acres
in Mangrel Valley where those horrible little centipede things are
Three and a half years ago. And yeah, it is
beautiful that the view is stunning, but the frosts are
really hard. So if I put if I somehow pop
(06:33):
on the pole above it and protected it while it's young.
Because another house I had one and it was.
Speaker 8 (06:40):
You couldn't kill it.
Speaker 5 (06:41):
It was amazing. That was under a verandah as well,
but it was well established when we bought that house
where it is growing from a baby.
Speaker 3 (06:50):
Yeah, you don't.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You don't really want it to. I would say it
doesn't like too much, too heavy, frost, too heavy, So
that means protection, and that also means a regular taking
off of anti frost anti frost cloth that you can
put over the top. It's if you're up for that, yeah,
I think you could do it.
Speaker 5 (07:09):
Yeah, and you do. You have to keep it off
the leaves.
Speaker 4 (07:15):
Yes, if it's if you've got a good frost, if
you go to one in the direction of Mount Holdsworth,
for instance, I think it would be pretty cool there.
Speaker 3 (07:23):
Good god, it will be cold.
Speaker 5 (07:26):
Yeah, it's cold.
Speaker 3 (07:28):
I know, I go.
Speaker 4 (07:29):
I usually take kids and teachers there and the ire
wrap quite often and go to those places, especially in summer.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
But I can imagine that in winter.
Speaker 5 (07:41):
Yeah, it's pretty stunning looking out at the snow, and
it soon warms up, you know, once some comes down.
But it's pretty awesome if I make that frost club
like a like attach it to the pole and bring
it down so that I can have it like a
like a tent.
Speaker 4 (08:01):
Yeah, yeah, you can do that.
Speaker 3 (08:04):
Yeah, yeah, you can do that. You can do that. Absolutely.
Speaker 2 (08:07):
Good luck with that, Diane. All the very best to you.
Oh Wa eight one hundred and eighty ten eight. If
you've got a question for it, Darren, good morning, good.
Speaker 9 (08:14):
Morning, question for you. You talk about putting meme oil
on your vegetable garden. Yeah, for whitefly and everything else.
Those lots of meme oil I've bought. This one says
right at the bottom, keep out of reach of children.
Do not apply on animal or food feed crops.
Speaker 3 (08:35):
Okay, safety use.
Speaker 9 (08:37):
On my vegetables or not, because both of the lots
of water feed don't use.
Speaker 3 (08:43):
I must.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
I must admit I've heard this before with certain food
crops or with name materials, and I think it has
something to do with their if you like their strength,
the strength of the of the of the kneeme oil.
In this case, I have never really had any hassles
with it because I planted it. For instance, I used
kneeme oil on tomatoes every now and then before they
(09:06):
are ripe, and that means that you get rid of
your white fly in this case, before it all becomes it.
Everything is starting to be harvested, and I reckon that
might be the way to go. You could also use
any other oils you like, such as Conqueror oil, which
I'm sure you can put on your plants.
Speaker 9 (09:28):
Okay, so you shouldn't spread it on your plants, like
my tomatoes and my glass yas are still all fruiting.
I shouldn't pay it on.
Speaker 4 (09:36):
I would wouldn't do it now, but I would. I
would do something else like conqueror oil. Yeah, okay, there
you go.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
Does that answer your question?
Speaker 4 (09:45):
It's the diming is important.
Speaker 3 (09:48):
I suppose.
Speaker 4 (09:50):
It never used to be like that. I am not
one hundred percent sure why knee oil has suddenly become
a bit of like a ooh, not too much.
Speaker 3 (10:00):
I don't think that.
Speaker 4 (10:01):
Was the case when it came out twenty thirty years ago,
you know, when we started using it.
Speaker 3 (10:06):
But there you go.
Speaker 4 (10:07):
If you're if you're not sure about it, go to
conquer oil.
Speaker 9 (10:10):
Okay, thank you.
Speaker 6 (10:11):
For that.
Speaker 2 (10:12):
You take care there, Phil, Hello there good?
Speaker 8 (10:17):
How are you good?
Speaker 9 (10:19):
Mate?
Speaker 8 (10:20):
Excellent? I'm not quite sure how to how to word
this question to route there. I h a few years
ago I had the fire going and I picked up
what I thought was just a bit of black coal,
you know, like an ember, and I and I threw
it in the four. I just thought it was a
bit of burnt, wouldn't that But that made this horrible
(10:44):
screeching sound for a second or two, and I thought,
and I thought it must have been a bug. So
and I feel horrible because you know, it sounded like
it was an agony and the pain it was just
for a second or two. So what I was going
to ask rout was it?
Speaker 5 (11:03):
What did it?
Speaker 8 (11:04):
If it was a bug? Do I feel pain? And
what it has suffered durably? If it may? It sounds
silly question to ask, but it's just something that is
kind of always sort of set with, you know that
I might have it might have been a bug, and
it just made this horrible screet It sounds like what
sort of pain do bugs feel? In junior it would
(11:24):
have been he might know what it might even be. Well,
it just looked like a black sort of little lump
of barent wood.
Speaker 4 (11:31):
Yeah, I know, you can, you do you roughly know
what it would have been that thing that made that noise, by.
Speaker 8 (11:37):
The way, No, No, that's it's always That's what's always
intrigued me, is it because it just looks like a
hank of burnt wood?
Speaker 3 (11:45):
Yeah, a little bit.
Speaker 8 (11:46):
It was small. It was just small, and I just
picked it up through it and it just went like
we're a sect and I thought, oh my god, it's
all the way with plenty of bugs. I'm just wondering
how much pain bags generally feel. Do feel pain?
Speaker 4 (12:00):
To be quite honest, I do not know if they
feel more pain or whether that is very I think
it might be different for some some species, you know,
for bigger species, sports species, et cetera. I don't know
if they really have that pain system that we have,
which is exactly and I'm quite sure it's not exactly
(12:20):
the same. But what they do have is the ability
to go like that when they feel that they're being threatened,
and that is not so much a thing of pain.
That's a matter of I've got to get out of here,
and the noise that I'm making will warn whoever is
having a go at me to watch out because I could,
for instance, bite or sting or do anything else. So
(12:42):
there are communications things, but whether they are related to
a feeling of pain, I am not sure.
Speaker 3 (12:50):
It'd be quite.
Speaker 2 (12:51):
Honest, had to ef I do research on that.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
I guess yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:55):
I suppose so, because you can't say it's right on
a run from zero to to ten?
Speaker 3 (13:02):
How much pain do you feel?
Speaker 4 (13:03):
Now?
Speaker 2 (13:05):
Not for long? Right, we're back after the break. Thanks
for you call, Phil. We'll talk to Steve straight after
the break. It seems like to those people upset about
the sound out for fire, it sounds like it's probably
just guesses coming out of the object that he threw
in there, as opposed to something animate.
Speaker 4 (13:22):
I'd like the look though at pain though, Peter, and
it is interesting things, of course, Ai who says yes,
growing evidence suggests that insects do feel pain, etc. I
can't stand it anyway, But later on you get insects
can feel acute pain of damage being done, such as squishing, cutting,
and burning, but not damage already there, So do they
(13:45):
feel I still don't know if they feel it or not.
I just help the feeling. We haven't really looked at
this properly yet, to be quite honest, other things on
the internet is like, indeed, insects are capable of no
se sception, which is they can detect and respect to injury,
you know, that sort of stuff.
Speaker 3 (14:02):
But it's it depends on how big they are and.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
How how much yeah, how they are built, you know,
and all that sort of stuff.
Speaker 2 (14:11):
I guess the question is are they sentiment as in,
you know, exactly and we feel pain because we know
how to explain it.
Speaker 4 (14:19):
That's right, But they can also avoid painful situations, right,
which is.
Speaker 3 (14:25):
Exactly there you go.
Speaker 4 (14:26):
So yeah, it's it's a bit here, there and everywhere,
and god knows who does and who doesn't.
Speaker 2 (14:30):
You know, some interesting texts.
Speaker 3 (14:32):
I'll tell you what.
Speaker 2 (14:33):
I looked out the window the other day. My plum
tree has got blossoms on it.
Speaker 4 (14:38):
Yeah, I know, it happens every now and then.
Speaker 2 (14:41):
I know. I'm looking at it going. And of course
the lawns have gone nuts, which is awesome because we've
had such a dry summer, which has been lovely rain
a bit of rain and it's still warm and everything
has gone gang busters. The weeds are up, the lawns
are up, the plum tree has got blossoms, crazy stuff. Right,
A quick call from you, Steve, Greetings.
Speaker 6 (15:03):
Oh high team, Just a quick one year. I make
myself a raised garden the wall back there. I had
a big lump of dirt in the backyard and I
thought the cunning why getting out of it would be
the bull raised garden.
Speaker 7 (15:13):
So I thought it. I'd follow it up with all
the goodies. I'll put chicken poo and fish heads. And
the main thing I put in is I got off
with a whole lot of lord clippings from the from
the lawn bowling club and there was sort of mud
when I picked it up, and I'll put it in
about two months ago, and I've put lime all through it.
And it's whether it's been fine or whatever, it's just
mud and it hasn't changed.
Speaker 4 (15:33):
That is because there is no carbon and no other
bits and pieces on it. When you make compost, this
is really important, Steve. And there's the time to do
it for its as you get leaves from trees that
fall off and you use that to make compost with
you need and compost is mostly nitrogen. You also need
carbon to help to break that nitrogen down. And if
(15:53):
you've got too much carbon. You need the leaves to
help to break the carbon down.
Speaker 6 (15:59):
So you do it intually, put a lot of leaves
in there.
Speaker 4 (16:02):
Yeah, but you also need wood and chips, wood chips, Okay,
that's carbon, right, And the and the idea is that
you need about sixty seventy percent of of carbon to
about say thirty twenty to thirty percent of green material
to break it down and make the right cohesion of
(16:24):
compost the.
Speaker 6 (16:25):
Right Okay, look, I'll be extended. It looks like I'll
be extending my race garden a little better foot higher
than Yes.
Speaker 4 (16:32):
Yes, not only that, but also from now on, you
know that there is a ratio of seventy to thirty
of wood and non wood, the leave type of things.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
That is what makes you good compost.
Speaker 6 (16:45):
Okay, I have it ready for next year.
Speaker 4 (16:47):
You will mate.
Speaker 2 (16:49):
Thanks tame awesome by because I mean, I know it
sounds simple. You take some soil, we're not calling it dirt.
I had some other stuff and magically it's there. But
in terms of getting the right composition to create the
ideal environment, there's more elements involved, seemingly.
Speaker 4 (17:09):
Exactly, and there is a lot. So literally, if you
now walk into a forest or luck. He suggested to
go to Hagley Park this afternoon and go for a lot.
It's beautiful and you basically see that not only leaves
come down, but branches have been coming down all the
time and are covered by the leaves and slowly that
particular seventy to thirty mix is happening under a tree
(17:31):
or under a forest, and that's exactly how you get
your composts.
Speaker 2 (17:38):
So I'm distracted slightly by this text that's come through,
and you know, if it was on the chase, then
it must be true. Good morning. A recent question on
the chase was do in six field pain? The answer
was yes, they do, so.
Speaker 3 (17:52):
I saw that.
Speaker 2 (17:53):
Yeah, well we take that as definitive scientific proof.
Speaker 3 (17:57):
No, and it.
Speaker 4 (17:58):
Depends on what species you're talking about. Absolutely, Peter, that's
absolutely tiny ones and they've got see the tiny ones
like aphis don't have much room for for things like
neurological catching canals in their body.
Speaker 2 (18:11):
It's the detail. It's the detail. Radio. Hey, lovely to
talk to you.
Speaker 3 (18:16):
Can we go now yet?
Speaker 2 (18:18):
Coning and the duch this week as well.
Speaker 4 (18:20):
It's good conning stera coning stuff.
Speaker 2 (18:22):
Yeah, yeah, and then we'll do it next week.
Speaker 1 (18:25):
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