June 14, 2025 • 19 mins
On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for 15th June 2025, Ruud explains when to use a lawnmower catcher, what sprays to use for lichen, and how to grow the most plants in your garden!
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talk said, be.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right, climb pass.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Good morning, sir, good morning, Sorry to hear about your car. Ah.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I mean, in some ways it's like it's kind of funny,
but in other ways it's like, hey, how was wingspan?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Wingspan was wonderful? Be great as per usual and just
a little bit. I came back on Friday night late,
or that Friday afternoon late, actually was really late. And
I've been I'm having a cataract operation in two days time,
so I'm not that I'm looking forward to it, literally
not looking forward to it. But I got I got
(00:49):
troubles with my ears the whole time. They block up
and things. Yeah, and I just want to say thank
you to clean ears in in Christians. Yes, at the
last moment, and that was that was beyond any you know,
they just did it. Copple plays Hillmoorton go and as
she's wonderful. And the second thing is that's a totally
(01:11):
different thing, is that? And that was that's a that's
a really good bit of news. This this weekend, we
we sorted out that we're going to do a tour
to the Chatam Islands. Wow. So I used to do
that before with with Peter Fleming. And so if you're interested, folks,
go and have a look. And if you want to go,
it's a wonderful place. I've been there a couple of times.
(01:33):
The tour company dot co dot inzet. The tour company
is one word dot co dot inzet. Chatterm Islands, Gosh,
the croon garden, the hapoopoo, the dendro clyffs, the flora. Oh,
it's just unbelievable that place. Honestly, I'm looking forward to that.
Chatterm Island forgets the nots huge plants.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Anyway, go on, ye fly over obviously and then what
a couple of days on the island and back by
the week. Yeah, Oh fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Mucking it around, mucking around aki Aki. It's just wonderful. Shoot.
They've got all these crazy birds headed endemic to the chats,
like the wood pigeon. It's about one and a half
times the size of a normal wood pigeon there, and
you're not only hid them fly over, you've got to
watch out that you don't get done from the But
(02:21):
like your car.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It would look the same, I'll tell you it's good
quality soil there in the white cut and the paddocks
there it's it's light and loamy, and you know, there
was a little bit of grass and I reckon if
I left it long enough, i'd have a decent grazing
on the side of the truck that much. Right, Let's
get amongst it, Ellie, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes you can. He's handed me the phone.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There, rud I'm here and Darling, Hello, I've got.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
These funny little things running around my kitchen bench, teeny
tiny little black things about, you know, as big as
a pin head, and I don't know what they are.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's funny, Yeah, they might be funny. But the problem
is we are talking about I think sixty thousand different
species of insects in the world now in New Zealand,
and without actually a picture of what they are or
anything like that, it's almost impossible to identify them. Ellie,
this is what you should do if you can or
(03:23):
and it depends on if you've got, for instance's smartphone
or have somebody who knows about smartphones. Get yourself down smartphones,
so telephones, you know what I mean. Phones, Get yourself
an app called I natural List one word. Yes, it
(03:43):
is a look. It's easy to use that app to
be quite honest and take a really good photo of
those things as close as you can get, and basically
I naturalists can identify them if you know what it is.
It's probably a lot easier for me to talk about
it because the tiny little bugs that run around the
(04:04):
floor and things like that, that could be so many
different species. It's ridiculous and it's really hard without seeing
what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Shall I post you on jus got one on my disclass.
I've got one of my disclass.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I would always post a few. I would always post
a few, ye, just some gate ifall.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Because when they go through the franking machine they might
get a SQUI. I used to work and post office
and franking was was my job.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So yeah, send it to your news dogs. They'd be
here in christ It should be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Perfect. Otherwise, find a young person, get them to plug
an eye naturalist, which is great fun and you can
identify it on the spot. Carol, A very good morning.
Oh hello, I'm going to listen intently.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, go on, you've got a good question. Go on, Carol,
let's do this.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Lorn corderator s. Yeah, what is best for the lawn,
So I use the catcher or not. I prefer not
to use the catcher, but at least little clumps the
grass around, and I don't mind that. What would you do?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I leave it lying around because what I and and
if you do a regular mod of the lawn, let's
say every week or two weeks, you'll find that those
clumps are not as big, and they therefore will decay
quite nicely in your or on your lawn and in
your lawn. And that means that you get all that
(05:44):
carbon and nitrogen and phosphates and all the things that
that you cut off will be reused again in your lawn,
and it saves you.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
All the lawn.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The lawn.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
But I noticed a number of birds as soon as
the lawn was mode and the clumps of grass were there,
there were birds all over the lawn to make it
sis from that grass. After it's being mode.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's not so much that it's because the grass is gone.
They can actually see the worms that live at the
top of the lawns and if they come out with
one part of that's how they get their food. They're
very clever.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Oh, yes, yes, thank you, great great advice.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, and if you do every now, If you do
every now and then, do have it on a catcher,
chuck it into a compost bin with some with all
sorts of other bits and pieces like fruits, but also
with chipped wood, and you'll find you'll get some really
nice stuff that you can use for your garden elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Oh yeah, thank you, you go.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All the best, your Carol, You take care of all.
My restraint is being used right now not to go
into a long and boring discussion around whether or not
to use a catcher and when and the technique for it.
I think I've got it nailed.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But yeah, what's your problem though, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, I don't have a problem with It's just it's
that mixture between kind of aesthetics and practicality. So I
will often mow without a catcher when the when the
if I do it regularly so you don't get those
big clumps. That's what Karl was talking about. That that
she was talking about that that leave it too long
(07:27):
and then you get big clumps. You get sort of
like rows of mulch, right or clippings sitting there. So
what I tend to do is during the summer in
particular is mo often but without a catcher, and then
it's really fine and it'll settle in winter. Like when
I mowed the lawns dashed out the other day. It's
it was already quite long, it's gluggy, and all the
rest of it that I'll put in the compost bin.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I totally agree, And that is exactly what that's exactly
what I do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Sound like such an old man.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No it's not. No, it's Peter. Why would I be
so this, Oh, Peter, it's practical stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I know, I agree, I agree. I'm just yourself, right, okay,
oh right? Quick text? How do you remove like in
a moss from walnut trees? Is it now killing the
branches when it reaches the end of the branch. That's
from Julian Central Otago.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
This is the very common question this. First of all,
Lichan sit on trees. They do not go in trees.
In other words, if your trees are not looking too
good and you've got lichen on it, there is something
else that takes the leaves off it and exposes the branch.
Just do a much better growth of lichen. Lichen itself
(08:44):
is a fabulous material that will tell you whether your
tree or shrub, or your plant needs fertilizer, needs pruning,
needs anything else, because the lichen itself has no influence
on your tree. That's number one. Number two. If you
do get like and you know that you're starting to
(09:04):
lose leaves, if you fertile with nitrogen, you will get
your leaves back and the lichen itself will then not
keep going. It's of no concern to the tree. It
is basically living on top of the tree and on
the outside of the tree. The only time you get
rid of lichen is when it's on your metal roof
(09:26):
right to climb up and you slide off, which is
why at the old days, wet and Forget was invented
as a wet and forget against like. And that was
the only way why Rod Genden invented wet and forget
so he wouldn't slip off. And that's the only time
you control liken because on a slippery roof it is
not nice to have.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And guys from Taurus Roofing, who do property maintenance as well,
come and do a metal roof for me this week
and again they specified the wit and forget got up
there and then okay, it'll take a little while, but
at least I know that it's being done, and you
know it is actually really really important. Got to take
this text before we go to the break. I bought,
(10:07):
says the text Donner. I bought fifteen bags of fresh
chicken manure as a fundraiser last year. How long do
I wait until I can use it? Please? And how
much per square meter? I don't know the picture in
your mind, but I'm thinking a bag of chicken manure
that's a year old, a year old in a plastic bag.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think if you have a compost bin, No, honestly,
if you have a compost bin, you will probably still
be able to make a good compost or so not
yeah or soup whatever, but no, honestly, use it as
soon as you can, but not too dense. In other words,
you need to you need to get chips, what chips?
You need to get all sorts of other stuff in
(10:51):
there and mix it up. But I reckon, Peter, I reckon,
we can do this all right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's it's salvagable. Yeah, good short break. We'll talk to
Marion straight after the break and News talks a b
twelve minutes away from nine o'clock Marion of very Good.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Morning, Good morning route.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Hello Maria.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
We've got our house with about twenty five years old,
which we had built, and in the front of it
we've got a little sort of circular half circle let's
put that way garden bed which I tended for a while,
and unfortunately the builders had put down the stones there,
(11:35):
so it's all got stones. But apart from that, we
had my husband likes to have something that stays there
for a while so they doesn't have to tend it,
so we had rosemary there for a while and then
that went in the middle, so he pulled that out,
(11:56):
and now we've got a bear with a few weeds
and we don't know what to put in there. I
did get some delphin ens and hollyhocks, but then I
realized they have to go on the spring, and also
that there are any annuals.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yes, well, if this is look I've been saying this along,
it's very difficult for me to, uh, what do you
call it? Tell you or give you some ideas of
what the plant, because there might be things you don't
like at all, And what I normally say to people,
have you got a and if you're like a garden nearby,
(12:35):
or a botanical garden nearby where you can have a
look at what grows well in your area, looks good
at this time of the year and maybe later on,
et cetera, et cetera. Are you anywhere near a botannic
garden or a place where you can see these things?
Speaker 7 (12:50):
No, we're on the north shore, they're not shore.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Is not too far from the best one of the
best botannic gardens in your Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, I would.
I would do that, and I would just go and
have a look and ask the people there. You know,
what would work? Now, what would work for a long time,
the six six months of the year. You don't want
(13:15):
it just for a couple of months, you know.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
And the other thing he's been planning out little bits
of levender. Do you think that would go?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well there, absolutely why not?
Speaker 7 (13:26):
It gets the wind, you know, and it gets the wind.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Now, this is what I think. This is your job
to go and find what you like, and once you
found what you like, ask the guys that any guys
and the girls, and you'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Well I did, but I didn't realize they were in.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Okay, Well, that's the sort of stuff. Yeah, no, honestly,
that's that's the way to go. You'll you'll know what
works in the neighborhood. Another one is go around you
know what your years this is. You'd like this, you
would love this. What I usually say is go for
a walk around the lock and if you see something
that works really well, knock on the door. Now, listen,
(14:10):
lock on the door, ask what is this exactly? And
when you're and when they're really good gardeners, you end
up with your own cutting for free.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
All right, customer before you go. You know, my husband
he used to do it with your at Boundary Road.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Oh my gosh. Really Ministry of anger and fish heads
mess and yeah, okay, what's his name? If I may ask?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
What is next? John? And he was a scientist.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Ah okay, all right, do you know No, I don't
think so, I don't know. Discern name.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Stay on the line, Marian, because we love these mysteries
to stay on the line and we get the details.
You just just wait on there.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Tell you what.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I think it's probably an Auckland Council thing. But Auckland
Council over the last couple of weeks have been running
a campaign where some of the community nurseries. Right, this
is the sort of local ecological restoration group. They've been
giving away free plants. They've been supported by Auckland Council
to give away free natives. So given that she's on
the shore and I know there's a couple of local
nurseries that have been part of that, you could go
(15:20):
and get free plants right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's been
an initiative to expose they know that these groups like
Restoring Takorhaki have their own nursery. Now they're propagating seedlings
and some of that will be available for people just
to come and get it and plants. Tell you what
I heard about last week to a conference. You know
(15:43):
builders pencils, right, So we use them often for promotional stuff.
You print your name on the side and.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
All the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
There's a new one out there and I'm going to
get some. I have to import them. But at the
end of the pencil, it's got a seed for a tree.
So when you finished with a pencil, you can plant
it and sprout is the brand apparently, sprout your own tree.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What a neat idea.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So I stand by, I'll organize some of those. I'll
get on to that, Mary, and thank you very much
for that. Margaret, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
It's maglie old bag.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Oh it's not, is it. You know what you should do?
You know what you should do. You should stop shouting
at me all the way from Gisbane. Good grief. Hell yeah,
I know.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
We've got monic butterflies everywhere and everybody wants them. But
what don't I do?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hang on? Whoa, whoa, whoa? Are you talking about Eastwood
Hill or your own place?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Any and I could be at eastwood Hill? Everything eastwood
Hill actually is ash and pummus the soil.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's happening.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
It things great, But no, it's monic butterflies.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Hang on? Hang on, Margaret? Is it in your garden
or at Eastwood Hill that you're referring to? Both? And
are they? Are they hibernating at the moment? Are they
sleeping in trees?
Speaker 7 (17:18):
No?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
They're well they are, but everybody wants them. But what
do I do to to have to keep them covered
for a year somehow because otherwise the caterpillars just kill them? Okay,
(17:38):
but we've got where where we live is on a
on a is I can have them everywhere, but I
can't get them growing enough.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Are you talking about swan plants?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, okay, all right now very quickly, because this is
really important. You might have heard all about the nonsense
about butterflies being rare and all that. I still don't
think there's enough evidence for that, but that's me. Go
and have a chat to the Moths and Butterfly Trust people. Okay,
they're online. You'll find that. You'll find them there and
(18:18):
you know exactly what to do. But I reckon you
can't plant at the moment, especially not in christ Church.
Although swan plants you'll have to wait till springtime. But
if you find if you find them hibernating, the Moths
and Butterfly Trust would really like to know where they
are because they're getting really really worried about these poor
things which are not native. Yeah all right, I'll leave
(18:39):
you to it, Margaret, he lovely voice.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
So who do I I'm I'm ring right two the monarchy.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Now it's the Moths and Butterfly Trust. Okay, okay, look
them up online, see darling.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Bye, all the best. I think we should have a
sound of wheels reversing very quickly. I'm just wondering about
thing about getting some pencils with seeds in them from overseas.
We don't necessarily want more product from overseas, do we?
Nob jundi for a local person to develop the technology.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
To do your local natives. Mate, Remember.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Someone takes through about planting. Is now a good time
to plant a lily pilly hedge? Don't we have some
concerns about lily pilice?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yes we do, right, but the question was can we
planted now? Yeah, it's a good idea. It's a good
dame to plant things.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's good to know you things. But maybe planting a
lily PILLI.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I suggest not lilly pilly, but something name.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
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Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right, climb pass.
Speaker 3 (00:13):
Good morning, sir, good morning, Sorry to hear about your car. Ah.
Speaker 2 (00:19):
I mean, in some ways it's like it's kind of funny,
but in other ways it's like, hey, how was wingspan?
Speaker 3 (00:26):
Wingspan was wonderful? Be great as per usual and just
a little bit. I came back on Friday night late,
or that Friday afternoon late, actually was really late. And
I've been I'm having a cataract operation in two days time,
so I'm not that I'm looking forward to it, literally
not looking forward to it. But I got I got
(00:49):
troubles with my ears the whole time. They block up
and things. Yeah, and I just want to say thank
you to clean ears in in Christians. Yes, at the
last moment, and that was that was beyond any you know,
they just did it. Copple plays Hillmoorton go and as
she's wonderful. And the second thing is that's a totally
(01:11):
different thing, is that? And that was that's a that's
a really good bit of news. This this weekend, we
we sorted out that we're going to do a tour
to the Chatam Islands. Wow. So I used to do
that before with with Peter Fleming. And so if you're interested, folks,
go and have a look. And if you want to go,
it's a wonderful place. I've been there a couple of times.
(01:33):
The tour company dot co dot inzet. The tour company
is one word dot co dot inzet. Chatterm Islands, Gosh,
the croon garden, the hapoopoo, the dendro clyffs, the flora. Oh,
it's just unbelievable that place. Honestly, I'm looking forward to that.
Chatterm Island forgets the nots huge plants.
Speaker 2 (01:52):
Anyway, go on, ye fly over obviously and then what
a couple of days on the island and back by
the week. Yeah, Oh fantastic.
Speaker 3 (01:58):
Mucking it around, mucking around aki Aki. It's just wonderful. Shoot.
They've got all these crazy birds headed endemic to the chats,
like the wood pigeon. It's about one and a half
times the size of a normal wood pigeon there, and
you're not only hid them fly over, you've got to
watch out that you don't get done from the But
(02:21):
like your car.
Speaker 2 (02:22):
It would look the same, I'll tell you it's good
quality soil there in the white cut and the paddocks
there it's it's light and loamy, and you know, there
was a little bit of grass and I reckon if
I left it long enough, i'd have a decent grazing
on the side of the truck that much. Right, Let's
get amongst it, Ellie, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 4 (02:41):
Good morning.
Speaker 3 (02:44):
Yes you can. He's handed me the phone.
Speaker 4 (02:46):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
There, rud I'm here and Darling, Hello, I've got.
Speaker 4 (02:52):
These funny little things running around my kitchen bench, teeny
tiny little black things about, you know, as big as
a pin head, and I don't know what they are.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
That's funny, Yeah, they might be funny. But the problem
is we are talking about I think sixty thousand different
species of insects in the world now in New Zealand,
and without actually a picture of what they are or
anything like that, it's almost impossible to identify them. Ellie,
this is what you should do if you can or
(03:23):
and it depends on if you've got, for instance's smartphone
or have somebody who knows about smartphones. Get yourself down smartphones,
so telephones, you know what I mean. Phones, Get yourself
an app called I natural List one word. Yes, it
(03:43):
is a look. It's easy to use that app to
be quite honest and take a really good photo of
those things as close as you can get, and basically
I naturalists can identify them if you know what it is.
It's probably a lot easier for me to talk about
it because the tiny little bugs that run around the
(04:04):
floor and things like that, that could be so many
different species. It's ridiculous and it's really hard without seeing
what it is.
Speaker 4 (04:12):
Shall I post you on jus got one on my disclass.
I've got one of my disclass.
Speaker 3 (04:21):
I would always post a few. I would always post
a few, ye, just some gate ifall.
Speaker 2 (04:28):
Because when they go through the franking machine they might
get a SQUI. I used to work and post office
and franking was was my job.
Speaker 3 (04:36):
So yeah, send it to your news dogs. They'd be
here in christ It should be fine.
Speaker 2 (04:40):
Perfect. Otherwise, find a young person, get them to plug
an eye naturalist, which is great fun and you can
identify it on the spot. Carol, A very good morning.
Oh hello, I'm going to listen intently.
Speaker 3 (04:58):
Yeah, go on, you've got a good question. Go on, Carol,
let's do this.
Speaker 5 (05:02):
Lorn corderator s. Yeah, what is best for the lawn,
So I use the catcher or not. I prefer not
to use the catcher, but at least little clumps the
grass around, and I don't mind that. What would you do?
Speaker 3 (05:22):
I leave it lying around because what I and and
if you do a regular mod of the lawn, let's
say every week or two weeks, you'll find that those
clumps are not as big, and they therefore will decay
quite nicely in your or on your lawn and in
your lawn. And that means that you get all that
(05:44):
carbon and nitrogen and phosphates and all the things that
that you cut off will be reused again in your lawn,
and it saves you.
Speaker 6 (05:55):
All the lawn.
Speaker 3 (05:58):
The lawn.
Speaker 5 (05:59):
But I noticed a number of birds as soon as
the lawn was mode and the clumps of grass were there,
there were birds all over the lawn to make it
sis from that grass. After it's being mode.
Speaker 3 (06:11):
It's not so much that it's because the grass is gone.
They can actually see the worms that live at the
top of the lawns and if they come out with
one part of that's how they get their food. They're
very clever.
Speaker 5 (06:23):
Oh, yes, yes, thank you, great great advice.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, and if you do every now, If you do
every now and then, do have it on a catcher,
chuck it into a compost bin with some with all
sorts of other bits and pieces like fruits, but also
with chipped wood, and you'll find you'll get some really
nice stuff that you can use for your garden elsewhere.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Oh yeah, thank you, you go.
Speaker 2 (06:50):
All the best, your Carol, You take care of all.
My restraint is being used right now not to go
into a long and boring discussion around whether or not
to use a catcher and when and the technique for it.
I think I've got it nailed.
Speaker 3 (07:03):
But yeah, what's your problem though, Well.
Speaker 2 (07:06):
No, I don't have a problem with It's just it's
that mixture between kind of aesthetics and practicality. So I
will often mow without a catcher when the when the
if I do it regularly so you don't get those
big clumps. That's what Karl was talking about. That that
she was talking about that that leave it too long
(07:27):
and then you get big clumps. You get sort of
like rows of mulch, right or clippings sitting there. So
what I tend to do is during the summer in
particular is mo often but without a catcher, and then
it's really fine and it'll settle in winter. Like when
I mowed the lawns dashed out the other day. It's
it was already quite long, it's gluggy, and all the
rest of it that I'll put in the compost bin.
Speaker 3 (07:48):
I totally agree, And that is exactly what that's exactly
what I do.
Speaker 2 (07:52):
Sound like such an old man.
Speaker 3 (07:53):
No it's not. No, it's Peter. Why would I be
so this, Oh, Peter, it's practical stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:00):
I know, I agree, I agree. I'm just yourself, right, okay,
oh right? Quick text? How do you remove like in
a moss from walnut trees? Is it now killing the
branches when it reaches the end of the branch. That's
from Julian Central Otago.
Speaker 3 (08:19):
This is the very common question this. First of all,
Lichan sit on trees. They do not go in trees.
In other words, if your trees are not looking too
good and you've got lichen on it, there is something
else that takes the leaves off it and exposes the branch.
Just do a much better growth of lichen. Lichen itself
(08:44):
is a fabulous material that will tell you whether your
tree or shrub, or your plant needs fertilizer, needs pruning,
needs anything else, because the lichen itself has no influence
on your tree. That's number one. Number two. If you
do get like and you know that you're starting to
(09:04):
lose leaves, if you fertile with nitrogen, you will get
your leaves back and the lichen itself will then not
keep going. It's of no concern to the tree. It
is basically living on top of the tree and on
the outside of the tree. The only time you get
rid of lichen is when it's on your metal roof
(09:26):
right to climb up and you slide off, which is
why at the old days, wet and Forget was invented
as a wet and forget against like. And that was
the only way why Rod Genden invented wet and forget
so he wouldn't slip off. And that's the only time
you control liken because on a slippery roof it is
not nice to have.
Speaker 2 (09:47):
And guys from Taurus Roofing, who do property maintenance as well,
come and do a metal roof for me this week
and again they specified the wit and forget got up
there and then okay, it'll take a little while, but
at least I know that it's being done, and you
know it is actually really really important. Got to take
this text before we go to the break. I bought,
(10:07):
says the text Donner. I bought fifteen bags of fresh
chicken manure as a fundraiser last year. How long do
I wait until I can use it? Please? And how
much per square meter? I don't know the picture in
your mind, but I'm thinking a bag of chicken manure
that's a year old, a year old in a plastic bag.
Speaker 3 (10:30):
I think if you have a compost bin, No, honestly,
if you have a compost bin, you will probably still
be able to make a good compost or so not
yeah or soup whatever, but no, honestly, use it as
soon as you can, but not too dense. In other words,
you need to you need to get chips, what chips?
You need to get all sorts of other stuff in
(10:51):
there and mix it up. But I reckon, Peter, I reckon,
we can do this all right.
Speaker 2 (10:56):
It's it's salvagable. Yeah, good short break. We'll talk to
Marion straight after the break and News talks a b
twelve minutes away from nine o'clock Marion of very Good.
Speaker 7 (11:06):
Morning, Good morning route.
Speaker 5 (11:09):
Hello Maria.
Speaker 7 (11:12):
We've got our house with about twenty five years old,
which we had built, and in the front of it
we've got a little sort of circular half circle let's
put that way garden bed which I tended for a while,
and unfortunately the builders had put down the stones there,
(11:35):
so it's all got stones. But apart from that, we
had my husband likes to have something that stays there
for a while so they doesn't have to tend it,
so we had rosemary there for a while and then
that went in the middle, so he pulled that out,
(11:56):
and now we've got a bear with a few weeds
and we don't know what to put in there. I
did get some delphin ens and hollyhocks, but then I
realized they have to go on the spring, and also
that there are any annuals.
Speaker 3 (12:13):
Yes, well, if this is look I've been saying this along,
it's very difficult for me to, uh, what do you
call it? Tell you or give you some ideas of
what the plant, because there might be things you don't
like at all, And what I normally say to people,
have you got a and if you're like a garden nearby,
(12:35):
or a botanical garden nearby where you can have a
look at what grows well in your area, looks good
at this time of the year and maybe later on,
et cetera, et cetera. Are you anywhere near a botannic
garden or a place where you can see these things?
Speaker 7 (12:50):
No, we're on the north shore, they're not shore.
Speaker 3 (12:54):
Is not too far from the best one of the
best botannic gardens in your Yeah, yeah, man, yeah, I would.
I would do that, and I would just go and
have a look and ask the people there. You know,
what would work? Now, what would work for a long time,
the six six months of the year. You don't want
(13:15):
it just for a couple of months, you know.
Speaker 7 (13:18):
And the other thing he's been planning out little bits
of levender. Do you think that would go?
Speaker 3 (13:23):
Well there, absolutely why not?
Speaker 7 (13:26):
It gets the wind, you know, and it gets the wind.
Speaker 3 (13:31):
Now, this is what I think. This is your job
to go and find what you like, and once you
found what you like, ask the guys that any guys
and the girls, and you'll be fine.
Speaker 7 (13:43):
Well I did, but I didn't realize they were in.
Speaker 3 (13:50):
Okay, Well, that's the sort of stuff. Yeah, no, honestly,
that's that's the way to go. You'll you'll know what
works in the neighborhood. Another one is go around you
know what your years this is. You'd like this, you
would love this. What I usually say is go for
a walk around the lock and if you see something
that works really well, knock on the door. Now, listen,
(14:10):
lock on the door, ask what is this exactly? And
when you're and when they're really good gardeners, you end
up with your own cutting for free.
Speaker 7 (14:19):
All right, customer before you go. You know, my husband
he used to do it with your at Boundary Road.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Oh my gosh. Really Ministry of anger and fish heads
mess and yeah, okay, what's his name? If I may ask?
Speaker 7 (14:39):
What is next? John? And he was a scientist.
Speaker 3 (14:42):
Ah okay, all right, do you know No, I don't
think so, I don't know. Discern name.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Stay on the line, Marian, because we love these mysteries
to stay on the line and we get the details.
You just just wait on there.
Speaker 3 (14:57):
Tell you what.
Speaker 7 (14:58):
No.
Speaker 2 (14:59):
I think it's probably an Auckland Council thing. But Auckland
Council over the last couple of weeks have been running
a campaign where some of the community nurseries. Right, this
is the sort of local ecological restoration group. They've been
giving away free plants. They've been supported by Auckland Council
to give away free natives. So given that she's on
the shore and I know there's a couple of local
nurseries that have been part of that, you could go
(15:20):
and get free plants right now. Yeah. Yeah, it's been
an initiative to expose they know that these groups like
Restoring Takorhaki have their own nursery. Now they're propagating seedlings
and some of that will be available for people just
to come and get it and plants. Tell you what
I heard about last week to a conference. You know
(15:43):
builders pencils, right, So we use them often for promotional stuff.
You print your name on the side and.
Speaker 3 (15:48):
All the rest of it.
Speaker 2 (15:49):
There's a new one out there and I'm going to
get some. I have to import them. But at the
end of the pencil, it's got a seed for a tree.
So when you finished with a pencil, you can plant
it and sprout is the brand apparently, sprout your own tree.
Speaker 3 (16:06):
What a neat idea.
Speaker 2 (16:08):
So I stand by, I'll organize some of those. I'll
get on to that, Mary, and thank you very much
for that. Margaret, A very good morning to you.
Speaker 6 (16:16):
It's maglie old bag.
Speaker 3 (16:18):
Oh it's not, is it. You know what you should do?
You know what you should do. You should stop shouting
at me all the way from Gisbane. Good grief. Hell yeah,
I know.
Speaker 6 (16:34):
We've got monic butterflies everywhere and everybody wants them. But
what don't I do?
Speaker 3 (16:42):
Hang on? Whoa, whoa, whoa? Are you talking about Eastwood
Hill or your own place?
Speaker 6 (16:47):
Any and I could be at eastwood Hill? Everything eastwood
Hill actually is ash and pummus the soil.
Speaker 3 (16:57):
It's happening.
Speaker 6 (16:58):
It things great, But no, it's monic butterflies.
Speaker 1 (17:03):
What do we do?
Speaker 3 (17:04):
Hang on? Hang on, Margaret? Is it in your garden
or at Eastwood Hill that you're referring to? Both? And
are they? Are they hibernating at the moment? Are they
sleeping in trees?
Speaker 7 (17:18):
No?
Speaker 6 (17:18):
They're well they are, but everybody wants them. But what
do I do to to have to keep them covered
for a year somehow because otherwise the caterpillars just kill them? Okay,
(17:38):
but we've got where where we live is on a
on a is I can have them everywhere, but I
can't get them growing enough.
Speaker 3 (17:54):
Are you talking about swan plants?
Speaker 6 (17:56):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (17:57):
Yeah, okay, all right now very quickly, because this is
really important. You might have heard all about the nonsense
about butterflies being rare and all that. I still don't
think there's enough evidence for that, but that's me. Go
and have a chat to the Moths and Butterfly Trust people. Okay,
they're online. You'll find that. You'll find them there and
(18:18):
you know exactly what to do. But I reckon you
can't plant at the moment, especially not in christ Church.
Although swan plants you'll have to wait till springtime. But
if you find if you find them hibernating, the Moths
and Butterfly Trust would really like to know where they
are because they're getting really really worried about these poor
things which are not native. Yeah all right, I'll leave
(18:39):
you to it, Margaret, he lovely voice.
Speaker 6 (18:43):
So who do I I'm I'm ring right two the monarchy.
Speaker 3 (18:49):
Now it's the Moths and Butterfly Trust. Okay, okay, look
them up online, see darling.
Speaker 2 (18:57):
Bye, all the best. I think we should have a
sound of wheels reversing very quickly. I'm just wondering about
thing about getting some pencils with seeds in them from overseas.
We don't necessarily want more product from overseas, do we?
Nob jundi for a local person to develop the technology.
Speaker 3 (19:16):
To do your local natives. Mate, Remember.
Speaker 2 (19:21):
Someone takes through about planting. Is now a good time
to plant a lily pilly hedge? Don't we have some
concerns about lily pilice?
Speaker 3 (19:29):
Yes we do, right, but the question was can we
planted now? Yeah, it's a good idea. It's a good
dame to plant things.
Speaker 2 (19:35):
It's good to know you things. But maybe planting a
lily PILLI.
Speaker 3 (19:38):
I suggest not lilly pilly, but something name.
Speaker 1 (19:41):
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