The Gardening Show with Pete and Ruud: July 6, 2025

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident build Up podcast with Peter
Wolfcamp from News Talks a Day Us.

Speaker 2 (02:33):
A house says a hole even when it's does, even
when the grass is overgrown.

Speaker 3 (02:40):
In the yard, even when the dog is too old
to barn, and.

Speaker 2 (02:47):
When you're sitting at the table trying not to start
house scissor hole.

Speaker 4 (02:55):
Even when you're a band gone, even when you're there alone,
he's a house is a.

Speaker 2 (03:13):
Home, even when those ghost even when you got around
from the world you love your most screamed, those broken
prints feeling from the wood locals bastball when they're going.

Speaker 5 (03:28):
To leave in the neighbor of the house.

Speaker 2 (03:32):
Is a home, even when we band go, Even when
you're there alone, he's.

Speaker 6 (03:47):
A ah hang on, no, no, no, heaven. How about that? Sorry, folks,

(04:36):
let me start again. My mistake, rightio? Actually, yeah, there
we go, rightio. Sorry about that technical mistake on my part.
The fader was down there you go. Hey, good morning,
Welcome along to the show. My name's Pete wolf Camp.
This is the Resident Builder on Sunday, and we are
into a couple of hours of open line conversation about

(04:58):
all things building and construction. So if you've got some
questions of a building nature, you should call me right now. Inevitably,
as I mentioned a few times, we do get a
little bit busy later on the show and don't always
get to all of the callers. So if you've got
a question and you're up and about, maybe you've already
had the toast and the tea and that sort of thing,

(05:19):
or perhaps you just tucked up still in bed. It
is kind of the middle of winter, doesn't It feels
reasonably sort of settled in this part of the country
at the moment. But if you're up at about and
you're listening to the show and you think, yee, I
wish I knew kind of what to do about. You know,
someone who's text me before when it rains a little
area just by the back door that gets wet right

(05:41):
the back doors undercover, so I suspect that the moisture
is coming up through the slab. What do I do
about that? Or another email that I got during the
course of the week, it was someone who's going, hey, look,
I was told that I didn't need a building consent
for this particular type of work. Turns out I did.
What can I do about it?

Speaker 7 (06:01):
Now?

Speaker 6 (06:02):
I have to say on that matter. It's been sort
of a project of mine for the last little while
to try and get a building consent that was issued
in two thousand and two. The work was completed, the
person lived in the house. They went for a final
inspection in two thousand and twelve found that there was

(06:26):
some work that was not properly done that required more work,
which required a new building consent that got done, That
consent got signed off. Excuse me, my client got me
to do some work on that house almost ten years ago,
which got a building consent. Well, had a building consent

(06:46):
and got signed off and a CCC was issued. But
then a couple of years ago it was found that hey,
actually that other earlier consent never got signed off. We've
got to get that signed off. I can assure you
that has been quite the process. And it wasn't just
a sort of desktop review type thing, oh well that
should have got signed off. There was inspections, there's been meetings,

(07:07):
there's been the engagement of building surveyors to do essentially
a performance review of the exterior cladding to satisfy council
that it's going to that's going to perform and that
they can feel comfortable about issuing a CCC for that
very early consent, which means that when someone looks at

(07:27):
the limb, the land information Memorandum of the property, they'll
see that every consent that was issued, every building consent
that was issued, has in fact been resolved signed off
with a CCC. These things take a bit of time,
so that that text that came through, with that email
that came through about oh gosh, we've done the shower

(07:47):
and now realize that we should have had a building
consent might actually be quite a process. We'll get into
that a little bit later on Ridio. What's going on
at your place? Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is the number to call if you've got a building question.
It could be about, you know, the actual practicalities of
getting something instructed. It might be around the rules and

(08:09):
regulations that govern what we build, how we build, and
how we get it to be compliant.

Speaker 5 (08:16):
And there's some.

Speaker 6 (08:18):
Pretty well pretty significant changes. Something that's been talked about.
We've talked about it on the show a number of
times over the last couple of months. Probably actually it
would go back almost a year. Cast your mind back
to the arrival. I guess of a new government and
a new Minister for Construction and Building. That is the

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honorable Chris Pink, who's been a guest on this show
a couple of times, came into the studio a few
months ago. One of the things that was floated very
early on is, hey, look i've been told or feedback
from the industry is that the recent changes to H
one of the Building Code, which is what sets the
sort of energy performance or the insulation standards for the

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Building Code, which had just only recently been taken up
a couple of notches right to make our buildings more
energy efficient, to make them warmer basically, or to upgrade
the amount of insulation. That came into effect in November
twenty twenty three, and then of course about less than

(09:21):
a year later that the incoming government goes, oh, well, look,
the feedback from the sector has been that the insulation
standards are too high. They've added significant costs to buildings.
We should look at winding that. And that was kind
of the first one of the first announcements. Look, we're
going to look at this. We've been told it adds

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fifty thousand dollars to the cost of a new build
We're going to save you fifty thousand dollars by winding
back h one fascinating debate. We've talked about it a
couple of times on the show, over a fairly long
period of time, consultation, and finally, as in this week,
decision has been made. And the decision and I have

(10:03):
to say, my frustration with the way that this has
been reported in the media has been enormous. There has
been much shouting at televisions, radios, stomping of feet, banging
of hands on the desk while reading the newspaper at
the way in which it's been presented, and so often
the reporting will be along lines of insulation standards are

(10:26):
going to be reduced, right, which is not actually true.
Insallation standards, the actual performance criteria for the house are
not changing. The way in which you get to the
best of my knowledge, the way in which you get
there is going to change. So there used to be
a thing called the schedule method. It's still out there.

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It means that you can go to the code and
you go right everything. If I use the schedule method
to determine the amount of insulation I need in my house,
I'm going to end up with six point six in
the ceiling, because that's what's required everywhere in the country,
in the Cargol to Kaitaire, everywhere in the country. If
you use the schedule method six point six. To be fair,

(11:11):
that was I think an ill conceived idea when it
came out. So anyway, the schedule method at this stage anyway,
seems like the decision is we're going to discard that
in favor of two other pathways to compliance, one of
which is calculation method. The other is the modeling method.

(11:32):
Happy to talk about this, I think it's really important,
but I do want to state that this is not
a reduction in the insulation standards. It's just a better,
more nuanced way of actually figuring out what's going on
in our houses. Last week on the show as well,
I mentioned another little project that I've been involved in,

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which is looking at the heating requirements for healthy home
standards for in this case an apartment, so an inner
city apartment relatively new built late about nineteen ninety so
not a terribly old building, still had standard aluminium joinery,
single glazing, its concrete construction, etc. But the people who

(12:18):
are the landlords are the owners of the property had
had a healthy Homes assessment done by someone, and in fact,
I was reading the report last night. So I've got
the original report that was done and the heating calculation
that that person determined was four kilowatts of heating in
that particular space. This is forty five forty six square meters,

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which isn't massive, right, and it's in an apartment, and
there are apartments above and below and next to it,
and okay, so they went out, they got heating that
complied to that amount, in fact exceeded it. Then they
found out that the heating that they'd put in was
not going to be compliant with healthy home standards because
it was more than two point four kilowatts and it

(13:02):
wasn't a heat pump. They had fixed in panel heaters,
very good quality panel heaters, but they don't comply because
if you have a heating requirement over two point four,
it must be a heat pump. So then someone else
did a heating assessment on it. Their results, and again
I read that report last night as well. I wasn't

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very good company last night said that the heating requirement
for that space was three kill. What I looked at
it and kind of used the calculator and adjusted the figures.
Let's say, so I haven't submitted this. I just used

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the online tool that everyone can use if you go
to tendency Services, and I figured out that it would
be I thought, in terms of actual practical use, given
that there's an apartment above and one below and some
on each side, that the heating requirement might be around
one point two. We went out and had it probably
properly modeled by a basically building scientist, who determined that

(14:10):
the actual heating requirement was zero point five seven killawatts
of energy. Now that's a long way from four. Still
a long way or four point two, I think it was.
It's a long way from three. It's even quite a
long way from one point two. So just dwell on

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that for a moment. Think about the potential implications that
if you use the online tool you're going to end
up with a number. Well, it just raises so many questions.
One is, how do two people assessing exactly the same
building come up with two numbers that are completely different?
And then how do I come up with a number

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that's even less than that looking at a real world example,
how does this building actually perform? And then having it
independently scientifically showing that in fact, the heating requirement is
considerably less. Again, we can talk about that as well.
And then, oh, I got to tell you about this
phone call. Random phone call. Chappy rings up and goes,

(15:15):
what do you know about this rock coat stuff? Because
I'm about to buy a house.

Speaker 5 (15:19):
I said, what do you mean? I don't know him?

Speaker 6 (15:22):
You just I don't know. To be fair, I don't
even know who he got my number. He listens to
the show and somehow you got my number. Good on you,
and he goes the auctions later on today. Can you
tell me anything about it as it happens? I could,
And the only reason I could is because I know
the guy who is the general manager for Razine Construction
and rock Coat, and so I was able to ring

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him and go, here's the address. What do you know
about the house? He knows a lot about it. I'll
tell you about that a bit later on as well.
Radio folks, thank you very much for listening. Let's get
into it. Sorry about the the heck up at the start.
We got that sorted. I've got some technical ability. It
is twenty minutes after six. We're going to take short
break We're going to talk to Steve in a moment.
We've got some lines free eight hundred and eighty ten eighty.

(16:03):
There is lots to talk.

Speaker 8 (16:05):
About us.

Speaker 7 (17:28):
USA.

Speaker 6 (19:27):
I'm slightly baffled by this text. To be fair, we'll
come to Stephen just a second. Your example describes exactly
why there's a schedule method, Peter, I'm not sure what
you're trying to say there. Yeah, anyway, if you'd like
to give me some more details, or better still give

(19:49):
me a call, that'd be great. Other texts from Owen
good to hear the minister listened, if not keeping everyone happy.
What I want to know is why any government thinks
it's okay for the situation to continue where developers can
build or modify buildings into apartments, walk away with the profits,
and leave apartment purchases with huge remedy costs that in
many cases ruin them. I want to see the responsibility

(20:10):
follow the money and the man not to a dissolved company. Look,
that has historically been an issue, and there's any number
of bits of litigation.

Speaker 5 (20:18):
In fact, I know.

Speaker 6 (20:20):
A guy who's a lawyer who's kind of a mate
as well, who's been involved in one case. I think
for some like twelve years in terms of remediation, there
was a I think there was a couple of forced
sales the other day where people had refused to pay
their body corporate contribution to a remedial building, and then

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the body corporate is basically going to either bankrupt them
or get them out of the property and sell it
on their behalf. And so yeah, I look, I don't
disagree with you. I think that's some either unscrupulous builders
or developers have built buildings that have been terribly poorly performed,
and the devastation that's wrought on people's lives is immense.

(21:03):
I don't disagree with you. Oh eight hundred eighty, let's
get amongst the call. Steve, good morning, Good morning Peter.

Speaker 9 (21:11):
You enjoy your program, Thank you, thanks for calling. Yeah,
I've moved a house. It's all been consented by the
council onto a property and as well underway, we want
to just change the plumbing plan around a little bit.
I had another toilet and just move the tub and
stuff like that. There's a layout of the plumbing and

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drainage obviously, and the registered plumber drain layer, he didn't
think it's too much for a problem with it, and
he will draw up a plan at the end of
it and it goes into council. What I want to
avoid is I'm having a big delay with you going
to apply for it now and then you know, and

(21:56):
then all that sort of carry on. I'd sort of
rather do it respectfully.

Speaker 6 (22:00):
I wouldn't suggest so the changes that you're proposing to
make will add to the number of sanitary fit in
fittings that are shown on the existing building consent. Yes, okay,
that triggers the requirement for a building consent in itself.
So given that you've already got one and it's active,
my advice to you would be to I would put

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it in as a minor variation. Right, so have your
plumber won't be able to draw the plans. The plans
have to be drawn by someone who has a LBP
or is an LBP so has their design license, which
I doubt your plumber is. So go back to the
original drafts personal architect who did the drawings, ask them

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to amend the existing drawings showing the location and the
pipework for the new sanitary fittings, and then submit that
as a minor variation. Now, the council might not accept
it as a minor variation, in which case it then
becomes an amendment to the consent That might take some

(23:06):
time to process, but typically depending on which council, or
maybe even which inspector you know, a minor variation can
often be just processed on site, so they, you know,
next inspection, or you book a special inspection site meeting,
get the inspector out and go hey, look, just now
that we're here and we've seen how it all works,
we'd like to make this change. Here's some documentation for it.

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So if you've got the plan there straight away, here's
the updated plan. They'll look at it, they can stamp it,
sign it and you can carry on. But doing it
doing it later is to be blunt recipe for disaster.

Speaker 9 (23:46):
Okay, yeah, good advice to do it now.

Speaker 6 (23:48):
I know it's a bit of affair, but do it now.

Speaker 9 (23:52):
Yeah, no, good advice. I've got the drafts from that's
registered and everything. I'll yeah, I'll draw it up. We'll
get him to modify it, and a minor variation.

Speaker 6 (24:02):
And look it's not too different to you know, people
going oh, well, look now that I've got the framing
up I've noticed that if I move that window over
a little bit, I'll get a better view. And you know,
it's relatively that's what happens right all the time, or gosh,
you know, I've realized that if I move that wall slightly,
it'll increase the flow through the building, or you know,

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all of those reasons. And you guys have obviously now
that you've you've got the house on site, you're probably
walking through it going, oh, gosh, if we made this
little change, it'll be so much better.

Speaker 10 (24:34):
But do it now?

Speaker 9 (24:36):
Yeah? The only thing is that I want to put
the extra toilet into a laundry that joins a kitchen.
There's a door between them. Is there any other problems
of that?

Speaker 6 (24:44):
Do you think you might have to just check? For
a while, there was rules that said you needed two
doors between a toilet and a kitchen. Now I don't
know if that's still the case, but often that was
the case. So you needed two doors between a toilet

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and a kitchen.

Speaker 11 (25:07):
Yeah, okay, Although I'm just thinking.

Speaker 6 (25:10):
About like a downstairs powder room that might be like
tucked in underneath the stairs of an open plan living
it'll only be one door. That might be the only
thing that might trip you up. But your your architecture,
your drafts person or your architect will will know how
that should work. Okay, but yeah, do it now, do
it now, buddy, all the best, Okay, take care of

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Thank you. See Steve your News talks. He be Pete
wolf Camp with you, the resident builder here at News Stalks.
He be coming up six thirty Colin, Good morning.

Speaker 12 (25:42):
Good morning, Peter.

Speaker 7 (25:43):
How are you.

Speaker 6 (25:44):
I'm very well, Thank you Colin yourself.

Speaker 12 (25:47):
Well, I'll run out of doubt one day. Next seat,
I've got someone to come and chick my root before
they painted. It's got the fight upon Peter.

Speaker 6 (25:59):
Yes, so it's just just for listeners, is it a
So it's one of those like pressed metal tile with
the chips and embedded on it. Yes, yeah, okay, ye.

Speaker 12 (26:10):
In the kitchen, Teter, I have got some crack in
the ceiling through the paint. The paint is actually peeled
and that it's come away.

Speaker 13 (26:23):
I don't know why.

Speaker 12 (26:25):
It's like it's since I've been in the place, but
I've got to get half a dozen middle spot and
there's little cracks through the paint. Isn't because the way
it's being prepared, it could.

Speaker 6 (26:38):
Be a combination of things. So one, most likely it's
the preparation, right, so when the ceiling was painted, if
let's say it was, if it's an older house and
it's been painted a number of times, you put a
new coat of paint over an old coat of paint,
but the old code of paint fails and so starts
to peel away, So that might be part of it.
The other thing might be is if you've got not

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great insulation in the roof, then you'll be collecting a
bit of moisture up there as well. So it's not
necessarily a leak as in coming from the roof, but
you're you're getting moisture collecting on the ceiling and that
might affect the paint. And then, of course, the third
possibility is that it actually is leaking if it's an
older roof, in which case you'd want to try and

(27:21):
identify that and fix the roof before you had the
roof painted, now's the time to fix it.

Speaker 12 (27:29):
I've hit the guy out once and he set the
ceilings fine. I mean, the roof is fine, but yeah,
it just puzzles me why it's got so many little
crates in it. I've got to get something to come.

Speaker 9 (27:45):
In and do it.

Speaker 12 (27:46):
But I'm going to get this job done too.

Speaker 14 (27:49):
Yeah, that's what I thought.

Speaker 6 (27:51):
In terms of the ceiling, i'd have a quick look
inside the roof space and see what the insallation's like
because that might have an impact on it. But then
in terms of prepping that ceiling, you'd want to give
it a really thorough clean, like with a proper preparation cleaner,
so something that's going to be quite powerful. Clean the
ceiling down, give it a light sand to knock black

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back the gloss level, and then I would recommend, especially
if it's in a kitchen sort of an area with
a bit of humidity, put a coat of pigmented sealer
on it first. That binds everything together, and then go
ahead and put your top coats on. So you know,
I think often what happens is people go, oh, I'm
going to repaint the ceiling, and they just get out
the roller in a bucket of paint, tip it and

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roll the ceiling, and then six months later they go,
I wonder why that's peeling off. Well, because you haven't
done the preparation. So good prep. I'll give you a
good paint job.

Speaker 12 (28:46):
Yeah, I was actually I'm going to get a tradem
tun them and actually do the sting.

Speaker 14 (28:50):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (28:51):
Perfect, okay, but again make sure you say to them,
how are you going to do it? And I think
that the best way to do it is to you know,
clean it, sand it, pigmented seala top coats. And if
they go, oh no, I'm just going to paint it,
then you kind of go, well, I might look for
another painter. Yeah, yeah, good luck, all the best, Thank

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you mate, take care by bye bye. Oh eight one
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number to call.
Just referring to Steve's comments about the building consent wanting
to make some small changes, particularly about adding, for example,
a toilet into I think a laundry. Someone's text Pete.
If it's already in for consent, get the consent and

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get underway, or your builder is going to be held up. No,
I disagree with you there. If you're going to make
a change like that that you know requires a building
consent or an amendment to the building consent, or a
minor variation, get that sorted out. My impression is that
the project's already underway right. The house has been moved on.

(29:57):
They're doing the work on it. It's got a building
consent for the relocation of the building. So if you're
going to make a change, get that into counsel as
soon as possible. Don't expect to counsel to look kindly
on you making changes and then kind of asking for
permission later on. Just doesn't work that way, right sixt

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thirty four Here at News talks big and take short break.
Come back with Xavier in just a moment your News

(33:33):
talks the'd be we're talking all things building in construction.
Off with a hiss and raw this morning. If you've
got a question of a building nature, you should call
me right now. Oh eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
is that number to call. Owen's text through as well.
Just with regard to Colin talking about you know what
could cause cracking in the paint work of the ceiling,
has suggested that painting an enamel over and acrylic may

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result in cracking too, because of generally the inflexibility of
the enamel on the expanding and a contracting acrylic. Thank
you very much for that. Oh yeah, it is quite
And I made the comment about legislation or rules building
code rules around whether or not you needed more than

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one door between a toilet and the kitchen. It's just
it's one of those old rules that sort of floated around. Anyway,
someone steps through, Hey, where can I send you a pack? Well,
if you want to send a pick, you have to
email it to me. That's Pete at Newstalk SB dot
co dot nz. And one. We have one bathroom in
our house. It's literally seven steps away from the kitchen

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bench and there is only one door. I'm just trying
to think about my own house. And we got some
doors into the hallway which are typically always open, and
then one door to the bathroom which is off the hallway.
Typical old villa. So if the doors are open, which
they are most of the time, and it's only one
one door between the kitchen, maybe it's a distance thing

(34:56):
as well. It just it stuck with me. I remember
discussing it. To be fair, it could have been twenty
or thirty years ago, but anyway, right and someone through.
I get this all the time, this hilarious song so depressing.
It really gets a bad start to the show. I
tell you what, in kindness, I'll say this I did
last year on the anniversary of the show decided to

(35:18):
change the song, and I came up with something else,
and then everyone texted and went, we like the song,
We'd like the song back please, So oh, eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. New
text has just come in morning, Pete. What happens if
the council has no limb or any other records of
our house? Is there anywhere else to find information for consents,

(35:40):
et cetera. We recently bought a house in the Rangutiki
district and council and they say that they had a
fire sometime ago and all of the records were lost.
Apparently it's a common thing. I tell you, what's a
common thing. And I'm amazed that there are any records left.
But I have heard we had a fire and all

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the records were lost. I was going to say hundreds
of times. No, not hundreds of times, but I've heard
it from almost every single council in the country over
the last umpteen years. We had a fire and all
the records were lost. I've heard that over and over

(36:22):
and over again. I don't think that council buildings are
that likely to burn down and destroy all of the
council records for building consents and building permits and all
the rest of it.

Speaker 8 (36:34):
I think that.

Speaker 6 (36:34):
Councils just lose stuff. So look, in the event that
council don't have anything on the limb, you could ask
for the property file, which is slightly different to the limb,
and that literally is anything that they've got on file
about the building. But it is also not uncommon for
older buildings that there are simply no records. And I've

(36:58):
had exactly the same. I requested the property file for
a property m and I did it online, paid my money.
It was like seventy six dollars or something like that,
paid for it, and about two or three days later,
I got a phone call from someone working at that
particular council saying, hey, look, we know that you've made

(37:19):
this request, but to be fair, we've got nothing. We
got nothing, so you know, send us an email and
we'll refund your money.

Speaker 9 (37:30):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (37:31):
Oh eight one hundred and eighty eighty is the number
to call. Call seems to have dropped off. That's right.
If you've got a question about building or about building
consents and rules regulations, and I am quite keen to
discuss the whole Heating Assessment tool thing, just based on

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my own experience of using it recently and then looking
at and I've got them up on my laptop A.
This is all part of the Healthy Home Standards right,
So as a landlord, now there's no more time to
get yourself sought in terms of complying with Healthy Home standards.
As of the first of July, so six days ago,

(38:15):
all New Zealand residential rental properties must have a must
be Healthy Homes compliant right. There are no more exceptions,
there's no more delays, there's no more I'll get round
to it tomorrow. It's all just got to happen. And
so everyone who has a residential rental property will need

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to do a heating assessment to prove that the building
can get to twenty degrees on the coldest day of
the year, and that varies across the country depending on
what climatic zone you're in. And then obviously what it
takes to get to twenty degrees in terms of this
calculation depends on what the building is made of. Is

(38:58):
there are lots of insulation, not much insulation, et cetera, etc.
And so you use the tool. It's the government's tool.
It's on the Tendency Services website. Use the tool, you
enter in the data and it spits out a number.
So one report, this is bearing in mind, this is
exactly the same building right that we're looking at here.
One report and I'm reading it right now, ends up

(39:20):
with a heating recommendation of so the building you require
four point five kilowats of heating capacity to heat the
living room. Heating needs to provide this heating capacity with
an outdoor temperature of one degree. So that's the assumption
in Auckland that it might be one degree outside. When

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it's one degree outside, you've got to be able to
get that room to twenty degrees. And in order to
do that, you've got to have four point five kilowatts
of heating. Then, exactly the same building, another report done
by another assessor generates a number that says you need
three killowats of heating. Is quite a bit different. Then

(40:05):
I did calculations based on how I think the building
actually performs using the tool, and I got one point too.
Then we went out and got a professional to do
a model of the building, a theoretical model of the building,
to see what heating requirement there was actually going to
be that came back at zero point five to seven kilowatts.

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Think about what's required to heat to four point five
versus zero point five to seven. It is significant difference,
right in what you need to do, i e. In
one case, you must install a heat pump, which means
penetrating the exterior cladding, doing lots of electrical work, making

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sure that you've got a drainage pathway from the indoor
unit to the outside. For the comments eight, you've got
to have somewhere to sit that outdoor unit, which in
an apartment could be a little bit challenging, and you
know all of the cost involved to do something that
in the end, in my opinion, you don't actually need.
So give us a call on that if you'd like. Oh,

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eight hundred eighty and eighty is the number to call. James.
Good morning to you, Jane. It's good things.

Speaker 14 (41:17):
Just a kind of.

Speaker 9 (41:19):
My mother's.

Speaker 15 (41:21):
She's on her own.

Speaker 16 (41:22):
She's got we had acre aker land, and he's beside her.
Baker Land has been subdivided and they've got the neighbor.
It's built a big His house is slightly raised and
spilt A long cronky drive from the road up to
his house in the in the fall of the of

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the driveways going towards my mother's house, right, and it's flooding.

Speaker 10 (41:52):
Yep.

Speaker 16 (41:53):
She've never had that fim before. And so I had
to talk to him and then I said, you need
a drive the fool is wrong and he said that
costs me quite a bit. Well, yeah, well, he said,
how verified put a sum a so call and your

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parents just through the fence into the appearance place. And
I said, no, you can't do that the council. He said, oh,
you get them, get her to agree. She's in her eighties.
And I said no, I said, legally you can't do that.
So I don't think you can. Kidding hell no, yeah,

(42:35):
I thought of because that would come under lum too.
I mean, you have told the house, isn't you.

Speaker 9 (42:43):
No, you don't.

Speaker 6 (42:44):
You don't allow the neighbor who's basically lazy and maybe
a little bit of a bully to do that. Right,
So that that and also that type of drainage would
require a consent. You never get consent for it, right,
So this this development that's going on next door obviously

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is consented.

Speaker 16 (43:09):
He felt, well, yeah, that's quite long. She's her the
back of her sections pedick, and and his house is
right at the end of the peddock in a very
long driveway. So the water comes roaring down. Yeah, it
would be raised coming down because the fool all is

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going to my mother's place. She's well on her aties
and the water is flooding or what she had. And
I said, yeah, you're going to have to change four
of it.

Speaker 6 (43:42):
So yeah, he could, you know, in terms of actually
fixing it, what he could do is add a curb, right,
so it might fall to one side, but then he
catches it with a curb and then directs that down.
But then he's got to collect that somewhere as well, right,
and dispose of it, and all of that is required

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by law. So that's why I asked if he's got
a building consent, I would say that on the building consent,
it will show us a particular design for the driveway.
And I wonder whether what he's done is not complied
with the design for the driveway. He's just gone ahead

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whack something in in the hope that no one's going
to complain, But obviously it is causing flooding. So one
option would be to go to him and say can
you show me the design for the driveway please, and
then have a look at it and if it doesn't
match up, you know, like if he's saying, it's not
my problem, I've just put the driveway, and then you

(44:45):
could say, well, look we do have a problem because
we're flooding or my mum's flooding, and so I'm not
convinced that the driveway is built as per the consent
even yeah, so and then you know, if he's reluctant
to play ball again, I'd probably get into with counsel.

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If he's doing a subdivision, there will be both a
resource consent and a building consent.

Speaker 16 (45:13):
The house is already established, but yeah, and it's already
is already is stablished. There's done a year and year
and herb or maybe two years done. But with an
increasing rain we've had, but just notice it's got worse
and then the last couple of year it's just as
flood of the bed. It's all coming.

Speaker 6 (45:35):
So on the adjoining property. On the adjoining property, James is,
there's still just one dwelling.

Speaker 16 (45:42):
These three in the driveway that the in the driveway
feeds two houses on the sod the driveway runs draw
along the fence. Yeahs coming under the fence and flooding
into the water.

Speaker 6 (45:59):
And I'd be happy to bet dollars to doughnuts that
the driveway design probably shows either a swale or a
curb as catchment and then that should be directed to
some controlled storm water. If he hasn't done that, it's
it's absolutely his problem, right you just it's a requirement

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under the property law that you have to control stormwater
discharge from your property. He's not doing that and he's
in a breach. So the other person to talk to
James would be go to council and ask to speak
to the Resource Consents compliance monitoring officer and ask them
to go out.

Speaker 8 (46:39):
And have a look.

Speaker 11 (46:40):
Yes next week, no trouble back.

Speaker 6 (46:45):
All the best, take care see then frustrating A I mean,
because it's you know, to be blunt. It's not that
hard to do a driveway where you are catching the
water that falls onto the driveway. It's a hard surface,
it's impermeable, it's going to sheet off somewhere. So most
driveways will have either a bit of a dish running
down one side which will catch the order directed into

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a catchpit. Or to a channel grate and then discharge
it into storm water. But just sloping the driveway so
it falls to your neighbors is simply not acceptable. Take
short break back in a move.

Speaker 7 (48:07):
Sai h.

Speaker 6 (50:29):
News sport and with the top of the hour coming
up shortly. But Gerald, good morning, good morning.

Speaker 13 (50:36):
Yeah, listen to your programming a lot. I've got a
problem an older cottage with a corrugated on roof. The
organized now the leadhead nails are going take leadheads in it,
which I wanted to get rid of. They've gone getting
rush marks around them, so we pulled them out, and

(50:58):
there's a little bit of rusty needs treating. And I
was advised to put the screws in the prop the
screws with brother. Get get some big washers that you
buy that go around them to increase the area. Yep,
what do we how do we treat that? Okay, I

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can divert the water off the roof for a while.

Speaker 9 (51:22):
We've got enough and yeah, sure, yeah, what shape?

Speaker 6 (51:28):
Okay, Look, I think the idea would be I agree
with you pulling the old lead heads out. And there's
a bit of a trick to doing that without damaging
the corrigo diet. So if you can take the lead
heads out, and ideally you want to try and pull
those out as straight up as possible, right so that
stops it making a bigger hole through the top of
the corrigate. So get the lead heads out. In most

(51:50):
cases you'll find that if you get them out neatly,
the screw that you use with a neoprene washer on
it will be enough to cover the hole. And in
the occasional one where it doesn't, I would you could
add a larger washer if you want to, or just
put a dob of silicon in there. When you've pulled
the nail out, I would be inclined to treat the
area with a bit of Russ converter and then some

(52:12):
russkilled primer, and then eventually you'll put a new acrylic
coat over the top. It's job done. So that's how
I would approach it. But the key is getting the
nails out straight up and not making that whole much bigger, Rightio,
Thanks for that, Gerald, all the very best. We are
back straight after news, sport and weather.

Speaker 17 (53:08):
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Speaker 7 (56:45):
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Speaker 3 (01:02:22):
Radio.

Speaker 6 (01:02:22):
That must be my turn. Eight hundred and eighty ten
eighty is the number to call. I don't know why
someone's texting me about the all Blacks, but hey, umm oh,
here's sorry, just a completely random text. This is fascinating.
Can you recommend a silicon spray to squirt on galvanized
chicken wire prevent to that is preventing the starlings from

(01:02:44):
nesting in the corners of the spouting and under the eaves.
The chicken wire will eventually rust being near the coast,
but we want to slow it down if possible. The
roof and spouting a powder coated metal and are seven
years old. Okay, that's not where I thought it was.

Speaker 7 (01:02:56):
Going to go.

Speaker 6 (01:02:57):
I would suggest that you rip out that galvanized chicken
wire and replace it with plastic mesh, right, because that
won't rush, and almost anything that you could spray on,
you're still going to miss a spot and you're going
to get the rust.

Speaker 9 (01:03:11):
So I do that.

Speaker 6 (01:03:13):
The reason that I perked up with that one is
a place that I look after suddenly has had birds
roosting in the veranda roof. And the reason I know
that is because there's droppings all over the verandah and
the handrail. And I was there the other day and
I washed all of that down and I went back
a couple of days later and it's all covered in
bird pil again. So I'm going to try I've never

(01:03:35):
tried the stuff before, the sort of no bird's gel
that you can squirt into these areas and it dissuades
them from hanging around there. But I've got to wash
it first. So that means today possibly I'll go and
do some water blasting, ah, clean all that up and
then apply that gel. If you've had luck with the
gel and you've got a moment, just let me quick

(01:03:57):
text nine two Does it actually work?

Speaker 12 (01:04:00):
Wait?

Speaker 6 (01:04:00):
One hundred and eighty ten eighty, let's get amongst the calls,
the conversation, Judy, good morning.

Speaker 9 (01:04:05):
To you.

Speaker 18 (01:04:07):
High their people. I just need some advice. I've got
a unit, it's a cross cross lease, and I need
some advice on a party wall. The next door neighbors
have placed their garden on this party wall, and I'm
finding there's mold coming through into my bedroom.

Speaker 8 (01:04:30):
YEP, is this the cause?

Speaker 14 (01:04:32):
Do you think.

Speaker 6 (01:04:35):
Possibly? When you say they've placed the garden against it,
have they like built a planter box and then filled
it with soil and that's against the cladding above the
floor level.

Speaker 18 (01:04:44):
No, it's it's two units. My unit that's lower than
their unit, and they've put a fence in between the
two units. If you can sort of get the idea
and dub that filled all their section up against the
party wall. So it's probably about four feet.

Speaker 6 (01:05:08):
And the party wall that you describe is that part
of that is exterior and it backs onto your habitable space.

Speaker 18 (01:05:17):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:05:18):
And then they've backfilled against that. So there's soil where
there wasn't soil before. Yes, and the leaking has come
about after they've done that.

Speaker 12 (01:05:28):
I think.

Speaker 18 (01:05:29):
So it happened before I actually came here. I haven't
noticed it until there a couple of years, and now
that that is causing a lot of well, I think
it is. There's mold in that corner where the party
waller is.

Speaker 6 (01:05:49):
I think it's not an unreasonable assumption to make. I mean,
if the building when it was designed had you know,
the wall was there and lots of fresh air on
one side of it, and now there isn't any fresh
air and there's lots of soil pushed up against it,
which is going to hold moisture. And if they're was
either no or inadequate waterproofing against that wall. Then yes,

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you can imagine the water is held there by the
soil it's being deposited, and then that's literally just soaking
through the block work, and then it will saturate the space,
and even if it's not a leak, it will introduce
so much moisture that it will give the right conditions
for mold to grow. So I think you're probably onto
something given that it's a cross lease title. Unless in

(01:06:37):
the cross lease agreement there is such a thing as
exclusive rights to a certain area.

Speaker 18 (01:06:44):
Yes there is.

Speaker 6 (01:06:45):
Ah, Okay, that's interesting. I'm just wondering whether that might
mean that it's a little bit more challenging for you
to intervene and to go to the neighbor and say, look,
I need you to remove this because it's causing issues
with my building.

Speaker 18 (01:07:00):
Yes, the exclusive rights are that I can actually go
on to their property on that and they can come
onto mine. But now there's a fence in between the
two and that filled the garden. That can't happen right,
Not that I want to anyway, but I just know
what it is I can do to get this removed

(01:07:21):
off the party wall.

Speaker 6 (01:07:22):
Look, I think from what you have described. It's not
unreasonable to say, hey, look, particularly if your floor level
is lower than the ground level that they've created. It
wasn't the original ground level. They've created it by backfilling it,
and they've put soil up against what's the wall? Is
it just a concrete block wall standard concrete block wall.

Speaker 18 (01:07:44):
Yeah, it's the nineteen seventies units. So it's got there
just the block wall.

Speaker 6 (01:07:48):
Yeah, and so there's no waterproofing membrane against that block wall.
There's probably no drainage at the bottom of that block wall.

Speaker 18 (01:07:55):
That's correct.

Speaker 6 (01:07:56):
Yeah, Okay, look, I think that's most likely the cause.
So I mean, theoretically they could excavate all of that
material out, thoroughly waterproof the wall, add drainage, and backfill
it and not have that cause a problem to you.

Speaker 18 (01:08:17):
I have asked them, and I have got quotes which
I've given them. Of course, they are refusing to pay,
but I just wind.

Speaker 19 (01:08:24):
Of what my rights are.

Speaker 6 (01:08:27):
I think the strongest point would be that when the
building was constructed, the ground level was lower, and that
they have altered or someone has altered, whether it was
there or the previous owner, it kind of doesn't matter.
It's their responsibility. I think that it was never intended
to be a retaining wall, which is what it's become. Right,

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So a block wall is a block wall, and a
retaining wall might be made out of block, but it
doesn't make it a retaining wall. And because it was
never designed to be a retaining wall, it's causing moisture
or moisture is accumulating there. And so I think I
would think that you do have a right to say
it needs to be removed because it was not there originally,

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and by making a change and not allowing for drainage
and waterproofing, your building is suffering as a result.

Speaker 18 (01:09:21):
It is how can I enforce that If they're not
willing to actually do anything.

Speaker 6 (01:09:26):
I suspect it becomes a matter for lawyers in terms
of enforcing your rights under the Property Act.

Speaker 18 (01:09:34):
Okay, yeah, all right, So you just think I need
to go forward with a lawyer to actually get this.

Speaker 6 (01:09:41):
I think if they're going to be unreasonable, then yes,
probably okay, because you've got to do something that's enforceable.

Speaker 20 (01:09:51):
Yes, that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:09:53):
Okay, sorry to hear that.

Speaker 18 (01:09:55):
Yeah, it's a bad.

Speaker 6 (01:09:56):
One, but I think you're on the right track. Good
luck with that, take care of all of this duty.
Bye bye. Actually just talking about cross leases next week
on the program. Ben Thompson, who is a lawyer who
specializes in cross lease and when I say specializes, like
when I talked to him a little while ago before
he came on the show a couple of weeks months ago,

(01:10:19):
he'd just been presenting to the Law Society about cross leases. Anyway,
we had a great session with him last time he
was on, and I've reached out to him to say, look,
could you join us again next Sunday on the program,
so after eight o'clock next week, and can we take
some questions? So next week, if you've got a specific
question about cross leases, we can get some answers from

(01:10:42):
a lawyer who specializes. And that Ben will be with
me on the show next Sunday. Really looking forward to that.
Coming upteen minutes after seven, round quarter to eight, we're
going to catch up with Mike Olds from Razine Construction.
Good timing because earlier this week, I think it was,
it was Wednesday morning and I was at my desk

(01:11:03):
doing got a paperwork, and the phone rings and it
was like a number that I'd recognize and the guy goes, oh, hi,
it's I won't say his name, and I thought I
would reach out because I listened to the show and
I'm like, okay, just to be blunt, my number is
not easy to find for a reason. Anyway, he called
and said, look, I'm interested in a property that's up

(01:11:25):
for sale and it's got rock coat on the exterior,
which is a Razine Construction system's render on the exterior.
Can you tell me much about it? And I said, well, look, yeah,
I think so because these things have got records, right,
because I know the people at Razine Construction and they'll
probably have some records of the job. It's a two
thy twelve constructed house by a well known builder in

(01:11:49):
a relatively new subdivision. So I contacted the Mike at
Razine Construction said, look this Jeppie's phoned me and I'll
help him out. Can you have a look on your records,
And within minutes he was able to bring up who
the contractor was when the job was done, what the
building consent was, records of all of the inspections done

(01:12:10):
not by council but by their own team. Right, so
their own people go and inspect the work. Photographs of
it under construction, so showing the fixing, showing the flashings,
showing the sealant, showing ground clearances, showing the ventilation, all
of that sort of thing, and then a certificate to
say that the building has been completed and all of

(01:12:31):
that is kept. And what really impressed me about that
is I'm struggling to think of another cladding system in
the country that would have that level of detail about it.
And if we're moving towards self certification, if we're moving
towards being able to build granny flats without having council
do the inspections, I think that's an example of what

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companies should be providing if your product's going to be
used in a situation where it doesn't get or doesn't
require a building consent. It takes some comments on that too, Brian,
Good morning to you, sir.

Speaker 21 (01:13:05):
Good morning are you good, buddy?

Speaker 6 (01:13:07):
In yourself?

Speaker 21 (01:13:08):
God, I've been the last few events. I've been running
around the city in him opener looking for stuff to pull.
We've got going to put in this plank flooring and
the hype and one we're going to put in, and

(01:13:30):
some of the floorboards and the flooring in the kitchener
is just flaking air that chipboard.

Speaker 14 (01:13:39):
When you.

Speaker 21 (01:13:41):
And I've been everywhere to get this something to level
the floor off, I am asked him about you know
this floor leveler, and I can't use that on wooden floors,
don't matter which one it is, the multi purpose one

(01:14:02):
of that. The DO says you can't use them on
wooden floors. So I want to use builders bog for
Can I use that instead?

Speaker 6 (01:14:15):
I think when I suppose one of the concerns is
that nothing it's it's going to be really hard for
something to stick to the timber floor, right, it won't bond.
And then potentially you put your new laminate floor, your
hybrid floor over the top, and then the material underneath
that you've used for leveling delaminates and starts to rumble.

(01:14:36):
Right that that's what the concern would be. I I'm
wondering whether, like how how out of level is it?

Speaker 21 (01:14:53):
What would say.

Speaker 6 (01:14:56):
How out of level is the floor?

Speaker 21 (01:14:58):
Like obviously, but there's just a few dips, you know
with the chip board is coming oak, yeah, sure, yeah,
And we're going to put that under filled under road
as well, because quite but one's got that rubbish stuff

(01:15:19):
underneath on it already and we're going to put that
in the kitchen.

Speaker 6 (01:15:24):
Yeah, sure, we're.

Speaker 21 (01:15:26):
Going to put that.

Speaker 6 (01:15:27):
Kind I wonder whether you know this is your house
right that you're doing it. So let's say it doesn't work,
it's only you to blame, Okay. So I'm just looking
at this like, if you're working for someone, you'd arguably
want to do it absolutely right because you don't want

(01:15:49):
someone to call it up and say it didn't work.
But in this instance, because if you're skimming I don't know,
five or six millimeters of if LC over the top
of that, what you might look for is to see
whether there's like a primer and adhesion primer that you
could apply to the particle board that will help the
floor and compound to bind to it. I'll be interested

(01:16:09):
because I do know a couple of flooring guys who
might have a product that will stick to timber, and
possibly the laminate or the hybrid flooring manufacturer or supplier
might be able to recommend because it can't be an
uncommon problem, right. Timber floors can be as out of
level as a concrete.

Speaker 10 (01:16:28):
Slab, so.

Speaker 6 (01:16:30):
There may well be a product product If there isn't
and you used FLC and you used it sparingly and
only the worst few areas. If there was a problem
with it later on, well.

Speaker 21 (01:16:42):
Yeah, I've been therend everywhere and I've wrung Yeah, we've
got it. You know, a multi purpose one. Windy at
the Inn guy had a look on the computer and
said it said no, it can't be used on chip
board on warden flooring, So why use a multi purpose one?

(01:17:06):
Will make that's right.

Speaker 6 (01:17:09):
If it's only for.

Speaker 21 (01:17:16):
Your papers, means you can use it anyway. I mean, yeah, So.

Speaker 9 (01:17:29):
And there we go.

Speaker 6 (01:17:31):
Here we go rd x K sixty five.

Speaker 22 (01:17:35):
X A r D e X.

Speaker 2 (01:17:39):
Oh.

Speaker 6 (01:17:39):
Yeah, formulated to adhere to timber and flexible enough to
accommodate timber movement. You do a primer and then you
do an Ardix floor leveling compound.

Speaker 3 (01:17:50):
There you go.

Speaker 6 (01:17:51):
Problem solved x A R D e X Who makes it?
Ardis do that's the company? So A R D e
x O d X.

Speaker 9 (01:18:04):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (01:18:05):
Well I'll just jump online see if you can find
a local supply. It might be a specialist store, it
might be a tiling shop, or possibly.

Speaker 21 (01:18:16):
Just sooner you're card. I've been to all those places,
you know, they deal and floor and they can tell me.

Speaker 6 (01:18:22):
Yeah, no, look Ardets, I mean I know the brand.
I've used their products over the years. Just get in
contact with them and and it's a Ardix K sixty
five will probably help you out there, all right, make
all the very best, take care about it, take care,
uh andy, just hold the line. But it will come

(01:18:42):
to you in just a moment. It is twenty three
minutes after seven satis us you and you stalk the

(01:22:08):
big couple of texts as well. Oh cragy, this is frustrating,
Hey peek, My neighbor has directed new spouting from the
three story townhouse or three story house onto the carport roof,
onto the lawn into a ditch that he dug next
to our joint fence. The paving area is gushing rain
water from the carport spouting lawn floods next to this

(01:22:30):
joint fence, so the fence between the two properties where
he's dug a ditch for the spouting water from his roof.
I've spoken to him many times for quite a while now,
and he does nothing. I told the Wellington Council and
they've told me it's a civil matter and I'll need
to take him to the tribunal or to court. I
can't afford that I agree with your sentiments. I mean,
the fact is the neighbor needs to control the stormwater,

(01:22:52):
right and it's absolutely their responsibility and obligation to do
exactly that. In terms of enforcing it, if the building
is older and might not have a building consent, then
it's hard to go back to the council and go, hey,
look it's a problem with the building consent. The conditions
of the building consent haven't been met, so I'd look

(01:23:15):
into that first. Actually, is it relatively new, does it
have a building consent? The building consent will detail how
the storm water is mitigated or controlled, and if they
haven't done those controls then it is a council issue. Thereafter, yeah,
you probably have to go to the tribunal, but getting

(01:23:35):
enforcement on that sort of thing is difficult and if
people don't want to do the right thing. Interestingly enough, though,
I'm just thinking about this water care in Auckland, who
to be blunts seemed to be doing a hell of
a lot better job than Wellington Water does have actually
taken the initiative of sending people out to pick up

(01:23:58):
on these sorts of things. So a downpipe the discharges
onto the ground or onto a pathway with no obvious controls.
They'll literally go up, knock on the door and go, hey,
we've noticed that you're going to have a bit of
a problem here, or even if you don't, your neighbors
probably will. What are you going to do about it?
So they're being proactive, which I think is great to

(01:24:19):
be fair, because you know, in these times, with the
amount of water that we're getting, it's increasingly a problem
if you and I, as individual homeowners don't take responsibility
for the water that we are collecting. Oh wait, one
hundred and eighty ten eighty the number to call Glennis.

Speaker 23 (01:24:36):
Hello, Oh how are you? I've lost my boys?

Speaker 6 (01:24:39):
Sorry, I'm sure sure you found it again just a
little bit.

Speaker 23 (01:24:45):
And my birthday to day too, so that oh, happy birthday.
I know what a data happened. And have a cot.
I've got a healthy homes form sure. In two thousand
and nine they insulated this scending with fluff. The thickness
is two point nine and it's got pulleys to acrllic
carpet on the floor. You can't go under the house

(01:25:05):
and that is one point one point three meters now
this carpet on the floors, and he's sitting on the
concrete on the concrete underneath. Because I've got an open
planned lounge and kitchen here upstairs, there's a got a
fan heater. That said, my bedroom's got a heater. The
spare room hasn't got a heater. They put like a

(01:25:25):
heat pump in, but it's got air conditioner written on
it right by the front door. Basically, the house is
still cold. It's pubably because it's concrete. I'm not used
to concrete houses. Now, my power was rising up like
a warmer than what the house is at the moment.
I don't know what to do. Bait it Morey's paying

(01:25:47):
power for nothing, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:25:50):
Look, this is one of the challenges with the heating
requirement for the Healthy Home standards is that you know,
in order to comply, the landlord will need to put
in a fixed form of heating that can get your
room to or that the living room only the living room.
But if the living room has a staircase or is
open plan, then it ends up being quite a large area.

Speaker 23 (01:26:12):
Particularly Juri is about thirty feet long from the front
door to the ranch ludders here.

Speaker 6 (01:26:17):
Yeah, but it is the house to story.

Speaker 23 (01:26:20):
Yeah, it's one of those but joined on to people.

Speaker 6 (01:26:23):
Yeah, but then see for that. If you're doing a
healthy homes assessment on the heating, you need to calculate
the floor space of the living area, and if that
includes the dining area in the kitchen, that's got to
be included in it. And then because it's open plan
with a staircase, you have to calculate the space of
the staircase and the upstairs landing until you get to

(01:26:44):
the doors right to any of the rooms upstairs, So
that ends up being quite a large space. If there's
also relatively low levels of insulation, then what tends to
happen is your heating requirement will will go up quite
a lot. So I wonder whether you're the tenant not
the five years here, okay, other tenant. So what you

(01:27:07):
could do is ask the landlord to provide an updated
heating calculation.

Speaker 23 (01:27:14):
In front of me at the moment.

Speaker 6 (01:27:16):
Okay, and what does it give you?

Speaker 23 (01:27:18):
A number nine when they put the insulation in. But
this is it was stated on the thirties, but the
insulation was put in on two thousand and nine in
the ceiling.

Speaker 6 (01:27:28):
Which is fine, but remember the Healthy Homes legislation didn't
exist in two thousand and nine, right, So well that's what.

Speaker 23 (01:27:34):
They've got written down here. Yeah, they say it fits
regulation to the house. But because it's so big, it's
probably why it's so cold. You know what.

Speaker 6 (01:27:43):
I what I suspect is that the if you did
a proper calculation of the heating requirement, what form of
heating you've got is probably insufficient and needs to be
topped up. And that's I think an obligation on the
landlord to do that in order to stay compliant.

Speaker 23 (01:28:02):
Yeah, they put the machine of the heat pump in
the backyard behind me, and full of weeds in the garden,
so having it in the front of the house. They've
got it at the back of the house.

Speaker 6 (01:28:11):
Doesn't really matter where it is as long as yeah,
but they do need to ventilate, so if the weeds
are growing up in front of it, maybe you need
to just cut the weeds back a little bit. Yeah,
all right, So it'll be about the heating requirements, and
I wonder whether they haven't done a great job of
the requirements and therefore you're not able to generate the heat.

(01:28:33):
The problem is, and this is often talked about. I
guess for tenants and landlords is you can put the
heat and requirement in, but to run it requires power.
Power is expensive, and so people not to run it.
So you can put it in and people won't turn
it on. That's what happens too, Robin, greetings to you.

(01:28:55):
Good morning, Good morning, Robin.

Speaker 19 (01:28:58):
I've got a query regarding the insulation of my house,
sure which I bought in nineteen eighty six, and it
was a nineteen seventy five brickhouse new build at the time,
and the insulation were pink bats, which has been very good.

(01:29:21):
Now I'm just wondering whether there's any point in putting
a loose layer of a number of more pink bats
over the top. I have got two heat pumps, one
in the lounge and one up the front hall, which

(01:29:41):
are very effective. No problem with those, but I'm just
wondering whether I go to the expense of putting loose.

Speaker 6 (01:29:51):
More insulation into the roof that's the roof. Would I
would heartily recommend that you do exactly that. So if
the insulation was installed all those years ago and the
pink bats and it's nothing, it's not the rog tree
about the pink bats, but they do sag over time.
They settle, right, so the actual insulation value decreases over time.

(01:30:14):
Because they settle, they don't have as much loft. So
leave it in there and get an insulation installer to
do another layer of insulation over the top of it,
and ideally over the top of all of the timber
that's in there, so the bottom quart of the trusses
and as far out to the top plate around the

(01:30:34):
perimeter as they possibly can do. Have that installed. That
will make a significant difference to keeping the heat into
the house. Okay, yep, definitely a good idea.

Speaker 19 (01:30:47):
Alrighty all the best.

Speaker 6 (01:30:49):
Robin, You take care. We'll come back with Jeremy in
just a moment. If you've got a question, Oh, eight
hundred and eighty ten eighty is the.

Speaker 24 (01:30:59):
Numbers us.

Speaker 3 (01:32:22):
US right?

Speaker 6 (01:34:11):
Oh, oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty. Then auber
to call Pete the caller with the heat pump problem.
I'm exactly sure whether it is actually heat plump. Should
ask the landlord when it was last service, and if
she keeps the filters clean, that does make a big difference. Yeah,
you're absolutely right, Michael. It's on my list. For a
couple of places I look after to have the servicing done.

(01:34:35):
It'll probably extend the life of the heat pump. And
certainly they perform a lot better if you clean them
and look after them. Jeremy, Hello, good morning.

Speaker 9 (01:34:44):
Peter, how are you very well?

Speaker 6 (01:34:46):
What's up?

Speaker 9 (01:34:46):
Good Man? Good?

Speaker 2 (01:34:47):
So?

Speaker 22 (01:34:49):
Uh good rental property in that Oh and the nineteen
sixties build brick and tile like really good home in
general on piles and the back patio. It's just like
cobbles laid on soil and sand.

Speaker 14 (01:35:07):
It's been like that for like years, you know, but.

Speaker 22 (01:35:12):
It just it's always so damnp and just you know,
just wet. And so I've hide one of those chained
trench fun and yeah, bron the back, the back, the

(01:35:35):
whole in for the house of backs. Fence laid on
one ten overcall and chucked and some I forget the grade,
but your scoria base so about two hundred yeah, about
two hundred worth a scoring up, laid the overcall and
then put scorer on top. Now there's no sispits or

(01:35:58):
or or drainage like that I can feed into now,
can I obviously obviously it's got to have four, But
can I create some sort of like Scoria, kind of
kind of drainage pit at all.

Speaker 6 (01:36:17):
I mean, look, I've got to say that the best
solution would be to try and find stormwater, your own
storm water, and tee into it, which technically I think
would require it consent, but anyway, we'll put that to
one side for now. So ideally, what you want to
do is have that drainage coil dropping into a catch pit,
which will allow the sediment to sink to the bottom

(01:36:39):
and only clean water to go into the storm water.

Speaker 10 (01:36:42):
Light.

Speaker 6 (01:36:42):
So that's your that's your gold plated solution. Let's say
you can't do that, or it's you know, the stormwater's
miles away or something like that. I guess what you
could do is do a soakage pit. I would suggest
that you try and move that away from the boundary
so that if it did get inundated, it doesn't impact
on the neighbor. And we've been talking about that where

(01:37:04):
people don't control the stormwater and impact the neighbor. So
and one of the keys to doing those soakage pits
is to so dig you know, a decent sized hole,
and we're talking like you know, met deep met a
square sort of thing. Take all of the material out
line that with gear textile cloth, right, which is like

(01:37:27):
a matting that you'd put under driveways and behind retaining
walls and those sorts of things, and then fill that
with scoria, and I when I've done them, I actually
take like a couple of meters of that drainage coil
or black snake, whatever one you're using, and I loop
that in there. So I've got like a volume that
can't be crushed if you imagine, right, Because what typically

(01:37:49):
often happens is you'll run your drainage coil into the scoria,
but then it kind of just hits the scoria, right.
What you want is for it to have some space
to percolate out through the scoria. So I do a
big loop of drainage coil in there and then fill
it with scoria old the botom cloth or the geotextile
cloth over the top, and then put your soil back

(01:38:11):
over there, and and that if you're in the right
sort of environment where you don't have heavy clays and
that sort of thing, the water, because you're only collecting groundwater,
will drain away and percolate back into there. Yeah, but
ideally you'd want that to be a reasonable way away
from the neighbor. And you know, if you're really in heavy,

(01:38:32):
heavy clays, then in the end the clay is just
going to hold it and it's going to fill up
with water and not actually go anywhere. So you've got
to be a bit reasonable about where you can actually
put it.

Speaker 22 (01:38:42):
Yes, sweet, I mean, like it's not like wheat, weat wheat.
It's like essentially it's we're copecting the drainage from the neighbor.
So it's kind of yeah, it's kind of we just
kind of want to dry it out.

Speaker 6 (01:38:56):
So and look, even the fact that you're collecting some
of that water and running it through a length of
the drainage coil will help with the more sure that's
held in the in the soil around the patio on
that sort of thing. So just just having the field
drains themselves, the French drains themselves, will help.

Speaker 22 (01:39:15):
Yeah, I mean French, it's just right out already, you know.

Speaker 6 (01:39:20):
So yeah, wreck that into a into a soakage pit.
But the key to the soakage pit is having that
geotextile cloth. Right the old ones that I've dug up
where they've just dug a hole put scoria in it,
they end up just filling with sediment and then they
don't work. So the is the key.

Speaker 22 (01:39:39):
Yeah, Now, when I when I relay the patio tiles
like by three two, just old like terracotta looking ones.
Now can I should I should I run like a
sand or some sort of like gap over the scoria

(01:40:00):
between the cobbles and the soil, or and it'll still.

Speaker 6 (01:40:05):
Move around a little bit if you can be bothered,
I would actually do that sand. I'd do a sand
and cement mix like a slurry. So compact. Yeah, compact
the base down really well and then literally bed your
pavers down into a sand and cement mortar bed and

(01:40:27):
that will keep it level for a lot longer than
just putting it down onto the sand over the top
of the scory.

Speaker 22 (01:40:33):
Yes, and the natural is the natural moisture will just
harden the cement in the sand and it'll just bond.

Speaker 6 (01:40:40):
Or what you can do is do the sand and
cement and then just before you lay the tile, just
take a little handful of cement and scatter it over
the top and you'll see it change color because it'll
hit the moisture. And then when you bed the tile
down over the top. It'll it'll help bond.

Speaker 22 (01:40:55):
Gotcha, what's the ratio of sand cement?

Speaker 6 (01:40:57):
Six to one six one six scoops of sand one
of cement. That'll be a nice strong mix. And the
way you go.

Speaker 11 (01:41:06):
Take care of it.

Speaker 6 (01:41:07):
Actually, that'll that ratio is exactly what I'll be using
tomorrow when I'll mix up some concrete for the fence posts.
So I'm just going to go. I don't know, the
bags are great, but I kind of like old school,
so I'll go and get some builders mix. I'll get
a bag of cement, the mixer oud or not even
the mixer. They'll just do it in the wheelbarrow and
then six to one, nice strong mix, not too much water.

Speaker 20 (01:41:30):
Bengo.

Speaker 6 (01:41:31):
Job done. That's tomorrow sorted. Right, We're gonna take a break.
We're gonna talk to Mike Olds from Razine Construction straight
after the breaka you and us talk to the'd be

(01:44:46):
so interesting sort of situation for me this week where
just doing some paperwork at home, phone rings number that
I didn't know, not a Hedden number, just a number
that I didn't know, and talk to a delightful gentleman
in christ Church who said, look, I'm reaching out because
I listened to the show. I've heard you talk about

(01:45:09):
different claddings, and I'm looking at a house. In fact,
i'm looking at a house that I might buy this afternoon.
The auctions at twelve o'clock. We're talking at like eight
thirty in the morning, and it's got rock coat as
the exterior render. Basically all of the house, bar a
little bit of weatherboard, was all done with that. Do
you know much about it? And I said, well, yeah,
I do. I know the guys quite well. But also

(01:45:31):
if you tell me the address, I can go to
Razine Construction, who supervise these jobs, provide the product, and
they've got records of it. And so that's exactly what
I did, quite genuinely. What I was surprised about was
the level of detail held by the manufacturer, let's say

(01:45:52):
Razine Construction, about each individual job that they do. Because
the only way you can do rock coat is by
using a licensed applicator. They then have detailed processes to
record every step of that job. Flashings, installation, cavity batons,

(01:46:14):
type of fixings, whether or not they've sealed the cuts,
all of these sorts of things is all recorded and
it was all available, so I could phone this gentleman
back later in the day and so, yeah, I've seen
the records, don't have a problem with it. So a
person who runs all of this is Mike Olds, and Mike,
thanks for your time on Wednesday.

Speaker 10 (01:46:33):
So you know what I was.

Speaker 6 (01:46:37):
It's not completely surprising, but I was still quite impressed,
to be honest, about the level of detail that you
guys at Reseen Construction hold about every single clouding job
that you do. And this is obviously something that you've
built up over time. So that's the process and it
every single job gets recorded.

Speaker 10 (01:46:56):
Yeah, absolutely, Pete, And it was it was a sort
of perfect scenario when the person that contacted you wanted
to know some information and normally, as I think we spoke,
the vendor would normally have a lot of information for
potential purchases, and this particular project in christ Church, yeah,
you gave us the address and if it's one of

(01:47:18):
our systems. I mean a lot of people, a lot
of projects would potentially have a specification on a project,
but sometimes that specification doesn't get achieved.

Speaker 9 (01:47:26):
So we do we do it a get tin calls and.

Speaker 10 (01:47:28):
People saying I've got your clouding system on our home,
but I want to see if it's in the system,
and if it's not in the system, we can generally
say that possibly the even the specification has been changed
and it's unbeknown to the original owners or even potential purchases.
But part of our process, and it started way back
and I think two thousand and five we really got

(01:47:51):
into this, and it involves a substrate review on all
residential projects where we go and check the cavity bats,
the flashings and this photographic evidence. There's a checklist that
we go through and then we go through and do
a final review in terms of workmanship, detailing other subtrades.

(01:48:11):
The first one is probably the most important though in
terms of the substrate install that deals with other sub
trades and pipe penetrations, electrical penetrations, root flashing connections where
we connect with other other trades as well, because you
generally find where there's connections with other trades, they don't
they do their trade and we do our trade, but

(01:48:32):
there's there is definite crossovers and that's that's some of
our biggest focus focus areas. But it stays on that
file on that particular project goes through for the for
the life of the project, and it's always available. We
also it also flows through in terms of the warranties,

(01:48:52):
so that whole documentation package. Then we send that out
to the clients. Then in seven seven years we actually
touch base with that particular residence are known. If it's
the same home for the original owner, we send them
some messaging around starting to budget for general maintenance purposes,

(01:49:13):
looking at repaint and all that sort of good stuff.
So we sort of customers for life is probably the
best way to describe it. And it gives us because
you never remember everything. You know, you should look back
at a job you did fifteen twenty years ago and
trying to recall A who did the job, and b
what was the color, what was the finish? All of
those sorts of things just coming very very handy down

(01:49:36):
the track, and you've got a really really good record.

Speaker 6 (01:49:39):
And it was the level of detail that in the
recording that really again really impressed me in the sense
that you know, there's a tremendous surety for a homeowner
many years later. So this is a person, this house
was built in twenty twelve, all of those records existed,
this person's interested to know, you know, who did the work,

(01:50:00):
was it done well? Is there a record of the
actual the installation? And you know, how do I know
that the flashings were installed all of these sorts of
things and you can find it. And the other thing
I guess that I'm thinking about is that you know,
potentially we're going to move towards a situation where more
dwellings can be built without necessarily requiring a council consent.
Therefore you're not having council inspectors. And if you're going

(01:50:22):
to own one of those properties, how do you know
that the work has been done well? And that level
of reporting and review is kind of like a template
for what we might see in the future for all
sorts of building performance systems.

Speaker 10 (01:50:36):
Yeah, I absolutely absolutely think this is this is the
this is the bar for particularly for supplies, to go
yeah and say this is this is the expectation, because
I don't think it's reasonable for manufacturers by and large
to say we understand that the materials have been supplied
and installed in accordance because we generally get the first

(01:50:58):
phone call if there is ever an issue, and if
you're just reliant on just supply and not taking into
regard the skill and the competencies of the people that
are installing your products.

Speaker 9 (01:51:12):
Then yeah, it.

Speaker 10 (01:51:17):
A really big gap. And I think this is something
that's just so normal for our business and our contractors,
our LBP contractor network, that it's a great practice and
process for them as well. You know, we've got it
to the stage. We've actually got it to the stage
now where all the LVP contractors can undertake and do
these reviews with the digital information photography, all the checks

(01:51:39):
and balances themselves on single story dwellings. You know, they
go through and do that when we get into the
more complex projects we get involved. So yeah, it's pretty
comprehensive and it's a good backup and it saves a
lot of racking the brain in terms of memories of
what actually happened and who did what.

Speaker 7 (01:51:57):
You know.

Speaker 10 (01:51:58):
They also they also put notes on the project files
just in terms of conversations that have been held about
someone said this or someone said that. You know, there's
a numbumber of things, so I can avoid those types
of you know that he said, he said absolutely his time,
So yeah, it really really worthwhile.

Speaker 6 (01:52:15):
I really appreciate your time. This morning, We're going to
rush for the news. Good luck with the golf today.
He's not playing, he's looking after his boy's playing. We'll
come back and talk a little bit more about all
things building and construction straight after the news, sport and
weather here at News Talk Seed.

Speaker 25 (01:52:29):
B USA, USA, USA, USA, USA, USA.

Speaker 6 (02:02:31):
Righty, Oh, welcome back to the show. Oh eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call. Will
take your building questions right through till eight thirty. Then
we're into the garden with Rod Climb past as always
at around eight thirty this morning. Just a heads up
too next week on the show. At this time Ben Thompson,
who is a lawyer who specializes in cross leases and

(02:02:52):
property law in general, but cross leases very particularly, will
be available and we're going to We've had a conversation
with him before just kind of general stuff about cross leases.
But we'll cover the same topic next week on the show.
But you can text a new question, so if you've
got specific questions about your cross lease or a cross
lease that you're involved with, then fire them through. We'll

(02:03:15):
do that next Sunday on the show. And my thanks
again to Mikeel's from Razine Construction Systems for making himself
available just before again, following on from this completely random
conversation I had with someone the other day, rang me
and said, look, I'm interested in this property. I'm about
to buy it. They're an older couple looking for a
retirement sort of property, low maintenance, single level, all of

(02:03:38):
those sorts of things, and said, do you know much
about the clouding system? And so when I rang Mike,
all of the records was there. And what struck me,
particularly at a time where there's a lot of discussion
now about government allowing up to seventy square meters of
building to be granny flats to be constructed without necessarily
requiring a building consent, which means, how do you know

(02:04:02):
you've got a good building right? Because typically the default
position has been well, you get a building consent and
because a council inspector comes out and has a look
at it, you feel confident that the building, once it's
got its final inspection, got a code of compliance, is
going to be okay, it's going to comply with the code.
So if we're not going to have counsel there as

(02:04:22):
the gatekeeper, let's say to compliance, how do you know
it's going to comply?

Speaker 23 (02:04:27):
And then it.

Speaker 6 (02:04:27):
Shifts the responsibility, let's say, on to individual contractors or
suppliers of materials to say, look, I think it's it's okay.

Speaker 5 (02:04:39):
How do you know.

Speaker 6 (02:04:39):
Well, that's where you need good systems and checks and
reviews and paperwork basically to ensure that compliance. And these
guys are they've been doing it for twenty years, so
good on them. I say, oh, eight hundred eighty ten eighty.
Apparently someone else text through and said, look, we do
a similar sort of system and we've got these certified

(02:05:00):
contractors to do the work. So a lot of these
products and I went to buy something a little while ago,
waterproofing product, and they said, ah, you're licensed applicator and
I said no, I'm not, and they said, we're not
going to sell it to you. That's fine, It's absolutely fine.
You know, if you're going to have a product that
is going to be critical to the building performance, some

(02:05:22):
of those products will then only be sold to people
who are licensed to install them. And I think that's
a sensible safeguard. Quick text as well, can you please
ask your rock coat specialist what painting system is required
for upkeep? How often should it be repainted? Typically you
know houses should be washed every year anyway, And in

(02:05:43):
terms of recoat for razine construction or for rock coat,
I think the recommendation is sort of six to seven years,
and it'll be razine X two hundred for the top coat.
Oh wait, one hundred eighty ten eighty. Let's get amongst it, Roger,
good morning.

Speaker 22 (02:05:59):
Morning, morning, thanks, no problem.

Speaker 20 (02:06:02):
On the topic of birds, Yes, under eaves, I've got
a large covered deck. When we moved into the house,
there was a couple of pairs of birds that were
determined to put their nests there. After knocking the nests
down a few times, realized that wasn't working. Long story short,

(02:06:23):
I climbed up a ladder and one I put a
round a tennis ball another one I stuck a lemon
and filled the nest up with a foreign body who
sat back and watched the birds come back. And they
were not happy. They perched on top of them for
a little while and made a lot of very upset noises. Basically,

(02:06:47):
I'm glad I didn't speak bird because it sounded like
they were swearing in about five different dialects. Oh yeah,
they were not happy, yes.

Speaker 9 (02:06:54):
Oh yes.

Speaker 20 (02:06:56):
Net result, they didn't come back they abandoned the location
as an unsuitable neighborhood. Following year, one of them tried again.
I did the same thing, and same result, and six
years I've never had a bird under any of the
eaves here.

Speaker 6 (02:07:13):
Interesting, okay, because this was something. I went and washed
the deck down last week and in lo and behold.
I'm back there again the other day and I'm like,
what the you know, it's all the bird poops back again.
And then I look up and I think, oh, look
at the little buggers. They're good on them. They got
to find a home. Everybody's got to live somewhere. They're
just not going to live at that place.

Speaker 20 (02:07:33):
So yeah, well you can keep knocking the nest down
and they'll keep coming back. So I just made it
so they decided themselves not to come here. I've told
this to friends. They sort of like, yeah, give it
a try. They did saw them a while later and
they go, yeah, no more birds.

Speaker 6 (02:07:49):
Good stuff. I'm going to have a crack at using
one of these gels that apparently dissuade the birds from
coming back. So I got to clean the area thoroughly,
knock the nest out, clean the area. So I'm going
to do a bit of water blasting and then I
will try this gel and we'll see how that goes.
Appreciate the call, Roger, and thank you. We're on the

(02:08:09):
same page and you're right the determination of birds to
come back, and it took me about three years to
beat them at my own place, where they were hopping
into the spouting on the bullnose veranda and then ducking
their heads underneath the corrugated iron, jumping up over the
facerboard and into a little gap that was there a
little sefite that ran around there and they were roosting

(02:08:32):
in there, but they were very, very determined. Appreciate the call, Roger,
Thank you very much.

Speaker 8 (02:08:37):
Steve.

Speaker 6 (02:08:38):
Good morning, cad I Steve PHLLOI.

Speaker 11 (02:08:42):
Oh yeah, get hey, yeah, look I just got a question.
Can I talk about the cross Lee's situation? Yeah, yeah, absolutely, okay,
right right, Look, got this project and because I'm very
interested in the hearing from is it.

Speaker 6 (02:09:00):
Ben at at the Yeah next week on the show.

Speaker 11 (02:09:04):
Is his last name Thompson is yep? Okay, good, hey listen,
because look got the situation where we've got a house
that's going to be demoed. It's a plaster house. And
then rebuilt, right. And so the house is being designed
and it's on the southern side. It's on a cross
lease house section with the front house being a villa

(02:09:27):
on the front. Now, the people on the front, the
cross lease neighbors have to sign off on the new
plans for the rebuilt of the house because of the
you know what's required, and they are not wanting the
rare property to have any windows on the northern face

(02:09:48):
that's facing their house, right. And now, from my understanding,
you can't object unreasonably. You have to be reasonable in
your objections, right, And so they're only their concern is
that they think the neighbors in the new house with
the windows on at the moment, the house doesn't have

(02:10:09):
it's more of a single level and a large roof,
so all they're looking at the moment as a roof
no windows. The new house will be a double level,
it will have windows, and it'll have windows on the
on that on the northern face that will peer into
their backyard. But it's on the southern side, so the
light's not being blocked at all, and the house hasn't
even close to them, so it complies with all the

(02:10:31):
other rigs The only objection is that they don't want
any windows. They don't want any glass facing their backyard.

Speaker 6 (02:10:40):
And I would have thought that would be the questions.
Is that reasonable?

Speaker 11 (02:10:45):
Yeah, you could understand if the house is blocking out
some yu norther it's on the southern side, and the
house is a fair ways back. It's actually ten meters
back from the boundary, so it's not even close. The factors,
they've just got this be in their bonnet. They've got
their backyard at the moment, they don't have any The next.

Speaker 6 (02:11:06):
Question is going to be around how do you enforce reasonableness?

Speaker 9 (02:11:13):
Yeah, that's what I like that.

Speaker 6 (02:11:14):
Yeah, but look I'm happy to keep a note of
this and look, if you'd like to text through again
next Sunday when Ben's actually available, that that would be
a great question. But yeah, trying to enforce reasonableness. Gee,
that's it's a tricky one, isn't it.

Speaker 9 (02:11:30):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:11:31):
I mean we've all met people who are just downright
wunery and just won't be reasonable.

Speaker 9 (02:11:36):
Yeah, yeah, we're all a great question.

Speaker 11 (02:11:39):
We should be allowed to have your sunlight, right, you
should be able to have your your son. Your neighbors
shouldn't be able to tell you just because they're worried
about it. You know, a few people peering out windows
and look.

Speaker 6 (02:11:50):
I guess you know, listening to what you're saying. If
it's ten meters away, then you could also do some
planting on the boundary. It's not like it's one meter
away and three meters up in the air and looking
straight into there. So it would seem that there is
some way of being a little bit reason around that.
Really appreciate that. We'll put that to Ben Thompson who

(02:12:12):
is from Pidgeon Judge Lawyers and a specialist in Crossley,
so he's going to be available to answer some questions
text questions next week on the show. Really looking forward
to that. Oh, eight hundred and eighty ten eighty would
take a short break. We'll be back with Peter after
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still working fine. Oh eight hundred eighty ten eighty is
the number to call, just my own experience of it. Hey, Peter,
good morning to you, and.

Speaker 14 (02:17:52):
Good morning Peter.

Speaker 5 (02:17:53):
Greeting.

Speaker 14 (02:17:53):
So we've got a small house that's been converted into
a retail shop on the main road. The question I've
got is does a Healthy Homes rules mean that we
need to heat pump in that situation or is it
just apply to accommodation.

Speaker 6 (02:18:12):
I would think it's only accommodation because essentially what it's
about is the Healthy Homes requirements relate to It's part
of the Residential Tenancies Amendment Act. So if it's not
a residential tenancy, then it basically it's irrelevant. Right, So
if you're using what was a residential property for a

(02:18:32):
commercial purpose, a shop or an office or something like
that then, No, I don't see how if there's no
tenancy agreement in place, then I guess you don't need
to apply with the healthy Home standards.

Speaker 14 (02:18:44):
That's what I thought. But someone suggested to me that
the rules might have changed from one July.

Speaker 7 (02:18:50):
No.

Speaker 14 (02:18:50):
No, the Google I couldn't find anything.

Speaker 11 (02:18:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 6 (02:18:52):
No, what happened on the first of July is that
this is a piece of legislation that's had a really
long gestation, right, so it was signalled gosh, I think
as far back as twenty seventeen. Then there was a
whole series of deadlines. Certain types of dwellings needed to
comply by certain dates, and then there were always exemptions. So,

(02:19:13):
for example, if you had a sitting tenant in a property,
and maybe they'd been there for five years, right, you
didn't need to comply with the regulations until they moved
out or until they renewed their tendancy. And if they
just went onto a periodic, they wouldn't renew it, right.
So so in effect, you might have had a long

(02:19:35):
term tenant in a residential property up until the first
of July, so six days ago that that building didn't
need to comply because the tenant never moved out. That
exemption has ended. Right, so from the first of July,
every single residential property, including state houses, all need to

(02:19:55):
comply with the healthy home standards from now. That's the
change that you might have been talking about.

Speaker 14 (02:20:02):
Great listen, Thank you very much, my pleasure, all the.

Speaker 6 (02:20:05):
Best, pleasure, take care your new stalk seed b um.
Oh good point. Just quick text. We were talking with
Robin who's in an older sort of nineteen seventies house
had some insulation, but insulation standards there were pretty poor,
to be blunt to the lady who was asking about

(02:20:26):
putting up bats on top of old bats, or more
insulation over the existing one in her ceiling if she
has a community services card. There are all sorts of
government grants for that kind of stuff, and the cost
is actually really cheap, and there are many companies that
do it, and believe me, it's definitely worthwhile. Plus they'll
also do underfloor insallation if possible, and the vapor barrier
onto the floor from Ron. Thanks very much, and you're

(02:20:49):
absolutely right. There's quite a lot of support available if
you're in the right category for that. And you've got
a hats off Taika, who run the Warmer Homes program
the actual number of dwellings. And I was surprised by
this because I talk about this quite a lot at

(02:21:10):
different seminars and presentations and that sort of thing, and
I had always assumed that there was a significant like
hundreds of thousands of New Zealand homes that are either
completely uninsulated or poorly insulated. Talking with ECA who measure this,
they actually think that the number of houses that are
really poorly insulated is possibly down in the one hundred,

(02:21:34):
one hundred and fifty thousand dwellings. Now there's about two
million dwellings in New Zealand, there's about five hundred it's
almost six hundred thousand rental properties in New Zealand. So
if we're down to a nub of about somewhere, be
nice if it was zero. But realistically, there has been
actually great progress for most of our housing stock to

(02:21:55):
add some insulation where it's practical to do so, and
that I think is a really really good thing. Oh,
eight hundred eighty ten eighty the number to call, last
call for the morning, Peter, Hello there.

Speaker 26 (02:22:07):
Hello, Just bringing up really on a tight budget, Yes,
I really on a tighter budget.

Speaker 9 (02:22:16):
What happened was.

Speaker 26 (02:22:19):
A two massive holes in the war. What I did was,
being on the type budget, I had a block of wood.
I placed the wood in the in the middle of
the hole. And what I did was I nailed the
wood into the whole winded. I placed a piece of

(02:22:42):
two year car well paper. Well, you know, for exactly
the same color as the war.

Speaker 10 (02:22:50):
It did.

Speaker 26 (02:22:51):
I placed father, because look, I'm on the type budget.
Flower in water and one looks the flower up.

Speaker 20 (02:22:59):
It worked.

Speaker 26 (02:23:00):
It worked, honestly, it worked.

Speaker 6 (02:23:03):
Is it your own place, Peter, or is it a
rented place that you're in?

Speaker 26 (02:23:07):
Well, apparently got the job done. Landlord came yet stay
and he didn't know anything about it.

Speaker 6 (02:23:15):
They couldn't.

Speaker 9 (02:23:16):
He couldn't.

Speaker 11 (02:23:19):
Mate.

Speaker 6 (02:23:19):
If it works for you, it works for you, and
maybe later on the landlord might want to take the
flower out and put in some plaster or some jib
compound or something like that. Appreciate the call. Eight hundred
and eighty ten eighty is the number to call for
rid climb pass because he is standing by. And just
another quick reminder. So next week at this time, from

(02:23:40):
eight to eight thirty, we'll have Ben Thompson, who's a
lawyer who specializes in cross Lea's. I'm already getting a
whole bunch of texts. You'll need to text in next
week if you've got a specific question. And I think
it's going to be a very very busy half hour
on the show. So looking forward to that next week,
looking forward to talking with Rud as well. And love

(02:24:00):
the text that came in just a moment ago, so
says the texter from last week's show with I've made
a RUU box. Now could I ask where would be
the best place to put it? We will answer that
question and many more than just a moment back with
through it after the break USA, right out it climb pass,

(02:27:34):
Good morning, sir.

Speaker 12 (02:27:36):
Ah.

Speaker 6 (02:27:37):
Now we might have to bring him up on the
disk lock.

Speaker 5 (02:27:39):
I think you better. Hey, you're better, because otherwise you
can't hear him.

Speaker 6 (02:27:44):
I can hear you now, how are you mate?

Speaker 5 (02:27:45):
Good boy? I'm good, Thank you good excellent.

Speaker 27 (02:27:47):
Had a lovely, lovely week with Sir Peter Blake, trust
that he teaches et cetera in their heaving reign of Auckland.

Speaker 5 (02:27:55):
As you can imagine, on Thursday.

Speaker 6 (02:27:58):
Was a really sure came down, didn't it?

Speaker 27 (02:28:00):
It came down? So here this is what happened. But
I'll tell you this was this was actually quite amazing.
We weren't quite sure how much the rain was going
to interfere. You know, I'm being nasty. No, I'm being nasty,
you know what I mean. It was awful, So we
went to Taughranewie for a walk. We arrived there later

(02:28:20):
it was still not raining. Even it is crazy, but
of course the moment we started going, ten minutes later
a warpo it came down and that was really tricky.
So the whole team was and we had two teams
of fifteen, which was good, and we shifted halfway through,
so we were going anyway, and it was it was
getting worse and worse and worse and worse, and I thought,
I've got to do something here at tougher Anwie. So

(02:28:42):
we went into the major wonderful forest that's there. There's
the last remaining bit of forest. And I started looking
into in little hollow logs that I know quite often
had a really cool cave weather.

Speaker 26 (02:28:56):
So I go up.

Speaker 27 (02:28:57):
I had a look and with my little head torch
on in that little in that log was a female
Kiwi sleeping and I just I was stound at. I thought,
this is kind of I got them all to have
a quick look, very quiet, and SKII sticks his big
bill out and looks at everybody, what are you doing here?

Speaker 5 (02:29:19):
But it was just one of those moments that you go,
this is our hero, this is how it works.

Speaker 6 (02:29:26):
But you know, and also you know risk of repeata.
I think what's really exciting is we're starting to see
could you're saying, nature fighting back, like we're giving it
a fighting chance, right, getting rid of the pests, providing environments,
and and I guess nature is responding. And suddenly, you know,
I was talking to the gentleman who was doing the
overnight you know he's taken upon himself to rid his

(02:29:49):
particular area of hedchhogs. He says, you know what I've
noticed now is suddenly the get gos are back and
the wetters are back, and you know there's there's all
this other wildlife, this indigenous wildlife that's responding and flourishing
as a result.

Speaker 5 (02:30:03):
That's exactly what it's about.

Speaker 6 (02:30:05):
It does work, that's the thing. You know, if we
do the work, there will be a benefit.

Speaker 27 (02:30:11):
And Tafarnui is always the place where we go and
you always see something unexpected fantastic.

Speaker 6 (02:30:17):
Now that the text came in earlier, someone's getting a
hit of the game. So last week's show, the person
was listening and they've gone out. They've made a ru box.
Where should Where is the best place for them to
put it?

Speaker 9 (02:30:30):
Well?

Speaker 27 (02:30:31):
In in a quiet spot if you like that. There
tends to be a really good answer. Dark, quiet, sheltered
area if you like, near the roof of a shad
or a barn, if you have that sort of thing.
We otherwi was in a nice dense tree, but away
from areas where predators can.

Speaker 5 (02:30:50):
Muck around, bossoms and all that sort of nonsense.

Speaker 27 (02:30:54):
There's another thing you can do is, of course, you
can put a metal strip around a tree trunk that
you hang it in so nobody can climb up that
sort of stuff. But yeah, nice quiet place and not
in full sunlight people, because during the day it can
get quite hot there.

Speaker 6 (02:31:07):
Yes, okay, great advice, Thank you very much. Right, if
you've got a question for it, give us a call. Oh,
eight hundred and eighty ten eighty is the number.

Speaker 15 (02:31:16):
Hollo film Morning Morning Route. Hey bamboo, same old question,
got a bank full of bamboo? Is it possible? To
cut it and spray it, or just spray it and
say two, or are your best just to try and
pull it all out all of the above.

Speaker 27 (02:31:32):
Pulling it all out, No, no, but pulling it all
out is a really hard job because that root, those
roots go deep and far.

Speaker 5 (02:31:40):
They run around like idiots.

Speaker 9 (02:31:42):
They do.

Speaker 5 (02:31:43):
So this is the idea.

Speaker 27 (02:31:44):
This is what I used to well, first of all,
when I was in meadow bank, this is what I
used to do. I had a bamboo if you like,
a shelter fence if you like, almost and on the
outside of defense, I dug with the ditch witcher a
fifty sixty meters deep gully around that particular.

Speaker 5 (02:32:06):
Trench.

Speaker 27 (02:32:07):
Because it doesn't the roots don't want to cross those trenches.
They don't want to go through open trenches. You leave
it opened for years, if you like, and it can't
get it can't escape that way. So that is one
way of doing it without pisticides. The other one isn't
is actually what I came to.

Speaker 7 (02:32:26):
In the end.

Speaker 27 (02:32:27):
When you get the new bamboos coming up from the ground,
you literally let it go to maybe a foot high,
and you get some really good uh weat killer if
you like that you can paint you got it?

Speaker 5 (02:32:44):
Ametrol that's probably my best one.

Speaker 10 (02:32:47):
Yeah, okay, that sounds like the best way to do it.

Speaker 7 (02:32:49):
Then it is.

Speaker 27 (02:32:50):
And you will go and you will find that the
emetrol will then go back into the root zone and
will kill the roots slowly.

Speaker 5 (02:32:57):
But surely.

Speaker 10 (02:32:59):
That's the one for me.

Speaker 15 (02:33:00):
Look, thanks, Ruth, I know, I.

Speaker 6 (02:33:08):
Know, yeah and everyone. Then you hear someone who goes, oh, look,
I've just planted some bamboo. Yeah, it's only little, it'll
be fine. Yeah, give it some time, mate. Now someone,
I've grown an avocado from seed. It's had its first fruit.
What is a good food for it? From Simon.

Speaker 1 (02:33:29):
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