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September 13, 2025 19 mins

On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for 14th September 2025, Ruud discusses how to handle wetas or weeds in your yard, removing scales in lemon trees, and why possums need to be eradicated.

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off to an island this afternoon. Gold Maude Island in
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predative free. Yes, and we're taking every day. We're taking
ten or so kids from from the local area for
a boat right there and stay the night and all
that sort of stuff. It's going to be brilliant. Wow.

Speaker 2 (02:01):
Anyway, how awesome, How awesome. If you've got a question,
you can call us or texts through nine two ninety two. Janet,
A very good morning to you.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
Good morning gentlemen.

Speaker 3 (02:12):
Hello Jennet. Hi.

Speaker 4 (02:15):
I'm living in white and Tabanaki and I have a
small orchid on our property and we have several tamorillo trees.
It's about three years old, but they're not actually very big.
They've sort of been knocked back a little bit. Anyway,
all the new shots at top of the plants have

(02:38):
been eaten. So a couple of nights ago, I took
myself out with a torch to have a look and
see what was eating the plants, as you're supposed to do,
and along with a flag in one of them, I
also found a weater. Weterns don't we don't bother me.

(02:58):
I like to keep them in the garden.

Speaker 5 (03:00):
My thought was that.

Speaker 4 (03:02):
Wheaters were carnivores, but when I've actually had a look,
I see that that the it looks like they're actually
humor hoores. So I'm wondering if it's perhaps the waters
that are eating my alone, and how do I deal
with it?

Speaker 3 (03:18):
Good A good question that I so tell me what
the actual look is of the damage. What does the
damage look like? What does it look like?

Speaker 4 (03:29):
The mostly the little the new shots are all eaten
back from the eaves, from from the edge, and all
that I'm leaft with is the stalk. And when I
actually found the water, I didn't actually see it to
start with. And I read my hand up up the
little branch and read my hand over the water and we.

Speaker 3 (03:48):
Oh hello, And this was and this was temarilla leaves.

Speaker 4 (03:53):
Yes, yes, so they're just starting to produce flowers as well,
which is yeah, very I.

Speaker 3 (04:01):
Have the feeling if you have the odd weather doing that.
I don't think they would be making that much of
a mess of your plant. I have to feelish you,
I think.

Speaker 4 (04:13):
I think these slugs I found slug a slig and
one of the other ones, one of those those tidal
looking slugs yea, and stuff on it. But yeah, but
this one was in one plant on its own.

Speaker 3 (04:26):
Just on one plant. Is that all?

Speaker 4 (04:29):
That's what I found?

Speaker 3 (04:30):
Okay, So it's not that there were other plants that
were affected as well as it's just that one. Okay,
it could be sorry, lots of yah. Yeah, but but
that means that there was only one plant that was
affected by this this wetter. Probably possibly there's there's.

Speaker 4 (04:47):
A couple of there's a couple of Samoris that are
close together, and both of them have exactly the same image.

Speaker 3 (04:55):
Yeah, I have the feeling I am not under percent
sure if wetter, the tree wetter we're talking about, I
hope is really liking to eat that much temarillo leaves.
It will eat some of the leaf. Absolutely, there's no
doubt about it. But to be quite honest, I sometimes
find it hard to explain to teachers and kids. You
see these little holes here in the leaves. Now, that

(05:17):
is That is classic wetter damage, especially if it's on
the edges of the leaves and and not in the middle,
if you like, of the leaf. If you have whole
leaves disappear, there are things like possums who do that.

Speaker 4 (05:34):
I haven't seen any possiles we we love at all.

Speaker 3 (05:36):
No, No, well, I know, and I think there will
be possums all over the place there. It's not so
much that you see them, it's what you hear at night.
Have you ever heard of possum raw at you? This
is what it sounds like. Hang on, just listen. No,

(05:59):
definitely not that is and yeah, that is typical wetter.
They would they would do that sort of damage. So
I don't know. I'm not one hundred percent sure that
it's the tree weather, to be quite honest, it could
be Katie did yeah, go on.

Speaker 4 (06:15):
I definitely was a tree water.

Speaker 3 (06:17):
That was on the day. I don't doubt they. Yeah,
that's not the point. But I'd like to see what
it looks like in terms of the damage that they
do to the leaves. Our whole leaves gone or just
little holes in them on the sides.

Speaker 4 (06:34):
I know that these are only little spirit smallly, but
they are all gone.

Speaker 3 (06:41):
I have the feeling of somebody else.

Speaker 4 (06:43):
Oh okay, oh, well is the only wire of discouraging waiters.

Speaker 3 (06:50):
I wouldn't discourage them. I honestly don't think they will
do a lot of damage. What I would do if
I were you go out at night with a torch
and then a very observant ten year old when it's dark,
and see if there's anybody else that eats those things.
It could be a lot of different things. And honestly, look,

(07:12):
I've lived in Auckland with wetter all over the place,
and I know what they do, and I know what
the damage looks like, and I don't think it's going
to be that dramatic normally.

Speaker 4 (07:22):
Okay, well, I will seeing you a photo and you
can have a look as well.

Speaker 3 (07:30):
Go for it.

Speaker 2 (07:30):
That would be awesome. Janet always like photos of witters
to be fair. Hate mail, rud Is it true that
there's like new species of water that have been discovered.

Speaker 3 (07:40):
There will always be new species that are discovered. And
I just really read in the paper, not that girl,
that there are two new species. I think it's what
you call them, ground wetter. They found somewhere in the SOUTHID. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah,
absolutely not surprised. Actually, okay, we know we know bugger
or what quite honest? Yeah, exactly, exactly.

Speaker 2 (08:02):
Fair Uh oh now quick text, is name oil organic
or does it have some toxicity?

Speaker 3 (08:11):
It will have some toxicity, but it is totally organic. Oh,
because the definition of organic means it is made in nature,
by nature, through nature. That's it. But there are also
things that you can't eat in nature, So there are
things you've got to be careful with. But to be
quite honest, kneem oil used to be used, for instance,
in the Indian if you like, works in the olden

(08:36):
days to brush their teeth with it, right, okay, because.

Speaker 2 (08:42):
It is that attitude that if it's natural, it's somehow benevolent.
But nature is not benevolent.

Speaker 3 (08:47):
Not necessarily nore. Nature works with interesting chemicals and they
are not always the nice ones to use for us
or to swallow, you know. Just always be a bit
careful with that.

Speaker 2 (08:58):
Yeah, absolutely right. We might take a quick break then
we'll come back with Shirley as with us. If you
would like to call eight hundred and eighty ten eighty
will have time just to get you in before the
news top of the Arra again at nine o'clock back you.

Speaker 4 (09:10):
And his talks.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
They'd be Shirley, A very good morning to you.

Speaker 5 (09:14):
Oh good morning, Rude. I'm just concerned about all these weeds,
worst weeds and growing while we're on council properties and
in people's gardens. That's just being left to grow. Woolle
and I change one of the worst. It seems to
be spreading everywhere, and also the moth plant, but not

(09:35):
a lot of that, the big creeper. And I'm just
sort of wondering, why on earth are we not getting
more publicity about these things, and perhaps in the herald
or on the radio or something to try and get
people to eliminate them.

Speaker 3 (09:50):
I had I remember the olden days when when I
think Maggie Barry was the Minister for Conservation at the time,
and she started the Dirty Dozen. You know what I
mean of weeds, the most important weeds in New z
It's that sort of stuff that might need a bit
of a re recapture.

Speaker 5 (10:11):
If you like, how do you get it started? Though?
Need someone like you to phone the radio or one
tob or something like that.

Speaker 2 (10:19):
And can I just jump in because I got a
little bit of optimism for you Shirley. There are actually
a couple of groups out there already doing stuff, in
particular Stamp. I love these guys. Society totally against moth plant, right,
they are really really active. They've got like maps where
they indicate where they've targeted an area. You can send

(10:42):
them a notification that goes, hey, look I've discovered some
and in some cases they'll go and talk to the
person who owns the property. They're not just going to
barge in, unlike me. And so it is out there,
you know, I mean, I know there's always more to do,
but there is a tremendous amount and you know this
root there's so much work being done by such so

(11:03):
many people in the community to work on public spaces,
restoring nature and that sort of thing. So I'm optimistic, right,
especially on offshore islands.

Speaker 3 (11:16):
If you're looking around Auckland as well, you know TDtv, Martongue,
in all the sort of places, people are working in
all sorts of groups, whether it's birds work or blunt
people or whatever. Yep, it's happening. You're absolutely right. It
would be nice to have a bit more attention to
this especially.

Speaker 5 (11:36):
Yeah, for sure, happening to realize.

Speaker 2 (11:39):
Some time, Weedbusters dot org dot and Z. There you go,
they're out there, shirly all right, lovely to talk.

Speaker 5 (11:45):
Just one of very quick thing. I hope you don't
mind me mentioning this, but the Paprika Garden Club are
having your annual shows is coming Tuesday the sixteenth in
the Wellington Park in the radio hall and public are
welcome in the afternoon. We've got plants from Zeeland here,
We've got orchids, we've got rebels. We've got three afternoons.

(12:06):
You so please.

Speaker 3 (12:08):
And that's been going for a long time too, isn't.

Speaker 5 (12:10):
It many years?

Speaker 3 (12:13):
Thank you for that. Lovely to talk.

Speaker 2 (12:15):
She really enjoy that.

Speaker 3 (12:16):
Take care.

Speaker 2 (12:17):
Thomas, good morning, good morning, very well.

Speaker 1 (12:23):
Yeah, Thomas here from Blenham.

Speaker 3 (12:28):
Yeah, that's what I'm going to end up tonight. Yeah.

Speaker 6 (12:31):
What I'm just going to ask about.

Speaker 1 (12:39):
Some scales that we have in a lemonary that I
put some mineral oil.

Speaker 6 (12:44):
I fully cover them, but they're still there. I can
get rid of them.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
Yeah, the scales themselves take a long time to fall off,
but if the creature under the scale is is basically
suffocated by your mineral oil, you've done a good job.
You can also do this with nim oil and things
like that, and you'll find that those sort of things
tend to work reasonably well. How old is your lemontream
if I.

Speaker 6 (13:09):
May ask, I would be fifteen years old the least.

Speaker 3 (13:13):
And they give you lots of good fruit in the
wintertime plenty. Okay, are there any fruit at the moment
that you're still harvesting?

Speaker 6 (13:22):
Yes, there are fruit in the tree.

Speaker 3 (13:24):
Okay, and they're going to be ripe within the next
few weeks, aren't they.

Speaker 6 (13:29):
Yeah, they are ready to go now they're actually flowers
coming in.

Speaker 3 (13:33):
That doesn't matter. But I'm just wondering now because there's
another material you can use, and it's called grow ventive,
but not when you're going to be eating the plants.
There's too much of an withholding period for that, so
I wouldn't do that. But what you've done with your
mineral oil sounds just great. Same with kneem oil.

Speaker 2 (13:49):
Easy, Ah, Thomas, thank you very much.

Speaker 4 (13:54):
Hey, so rude.

Speaker 2 (13:54):
You're and Blenham tonight. Yeah, I'm in Nelson next week,
just as it happens. Well, I mean, yeah, we're a
week apart, but hey.

Speaker 3 (14:01):
Get not quite because I'll be there for a whole weekend.
Oh no, I'll come back on THIRSD Day, so make
you I might not make.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
You, not sorry. I'm looking forward to Nelson actually ye Saturday.
So hey, look, if you're down at the Home and
Garden show in Nelson on Saturday, make sure you come
and say hello Ellen, talk to me about possums.

Speaker 6 (14:22):
Oh hello, grued the great impersonation of a possum there.

Speaker 3 (14:26):
Did you like that?

Speaker 4 (14:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 6 (14:28):
I heard, I heard one. I heard one for the
first time the other night when I was out trying
to find what's going on outside. And it's really scary
when you hear that. You can't see where it is exactly.
But I even recorded its time of echoes of the Yeah,
go on, we've got a possum neighbor. When I am,

(14:52):
we were, but we're softies. We don't we don't want
to kill it. But but I want to give you
a blessing that we can please.

Speaker 3 (15:02):
Yes you can, yes, no, honestly a pain in the
bumb almost do you know? Now? Hang on, what's the number?
Do you? Oh gosh, what is it?

Speaker 1 (15:12):
No?

Speaker 3 (15:13):
No, no, The amount of leaves they eat every year
is something the same weight as the sky tower. Yeah. Oh,
don't start thinking possums are cute for God's sake. Now, honestly,
they do a serious amount of damage to our plants

(15:33):
and of course and also to some of the birds by.

Speaker 6 (15:36):
The way, Yeah, long tea, what do you want to do?
No that? So, so we've got the possum, I've seen
the droppings, and we're going to work out a strategy
to get a little bit. But we hear this noise
at night and it's like four taps on something wooden
and I'm just gonna tap on my table like this, Yeah,

(16:00):
And it's just once off the nets. It doesn't kind
of repeat the repreating repeat. Would that be the possum
doing something?

Speaker 3 (16:07):
I don't think. So is it inside or is it outside?

Speaker 6 (16:10):
It must be outside. There's got a lot of decking outside,
weather board, It's a lot of surface area that would
make that kind of noise.

Speaker 3 (16:19):
There are if you go out night with the torch,
which is the sort of stuff I do, you quite
often find things making noises. And it could be possible,
but but I doubt that they do it that regularly,
to be quite honest. You know, that regular ticking, what
could it be?

Speaker 6 (16:38):
But they will just do it once, you know, like
varies between three o'clock to four o'clock in the morning.
I don't know if it wakes us up or where
we're awake when we hear it.

Speaker 3 (16:47):
But I tell you there's also there's also a creature
that is inside, but it doesn't it is it's and
it is unbelievably small, and it makes an audible tapping noise.
And that is that is something else that I remember
asking Julie says, who's that ticking? He said, well, that's
that's what do you call it? The book like a
book louse. It's only not even a millimeter in size,

(17:10):
and it ticks at this time of the yes, and
it ticks at this time of the year to find
itself a mate. And it does that same sort of
thing of this. Yeah, but very very low in volume,
but you can hear it. But I nearly got a
fight with Julia on my heads because she thought I
was taking the mickey. But it's true. It is not

(17:30):
even a millimeter in size, and it can actually make
a noise that is audible.

Speaker 6 (17:34):
Yeah, so it's not the possum, man.

Speaker 3 (17:38):
I don't think so. The possum is a bit more rough.

Speaker 6 (17:41):
Yeah, I thought it might be smashing snails on the deck.

Speaker 2 (17:45):
Oh good, Oh, you see that all the time. A
number of times you go outside and what the hell
is that banging sound?

Speaker 3 (17:52):
And it's not me, that's what's No, No, it's not,
it's it's the It's not the blackbirds. Its the other one,
the thrush song thrush they use they use rocks. Yeah,
they use rock as an anvil to crackt to correct
the snails with.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
That's great, it's fantastic. I enjoy your day, Ellen, all
the very best to you. You take care now. We've
got a minute and about fifty million texts to get through.
So when can verea be pruned?

Speaker 3 (18:20):
Usually just after flowering, that's when you do it, and
basically sharpsicates and awhere you go.

Speaker 2 (18:27):
Don't go too far, okay, be gentle Lemon tree curling
and tiny bugs under the leaves.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
Oh gosh, there we go again. So we're talking about
all sorts of things that live on the underside of
the leaves. Again. Mineral oil or nim oil are probably
your best things to use at this stage. And from
the underside, remember.

Speaker 2 (18:46):
Right, fruit trees five years old, no fruiting ding ding ding.

Speaker 3 (18:50):
Yeah, soft fate off potash rang ding ding ding.

Speaker 2 (18:55):
Yes, all right, we'll have to come up with an
electric chainsaw sound too, because everyone's moving to that. Can
I do something to prohibit coddling moth and my royal
Garla apple tree.

Speaker 3 (19:07):
Three M A D E x three. It is a
material that you spray on the new flowers that after
the flowers have just finished flowering off the apple tree,
if you give it a whack as good as you
can do it again six five weeks later.

Speaker 2 (19:23):
Bulous. That's herbulous.

Speaker 3 (19:25):
I think we've done.

Speaker 2 (19:26):
Thank you as always, it's a pleasure. We'll catch up
with you next Sunday. Take care of all of this
by then, and again my thanks to Chris pink Minister
for joining us in the studio. Look forward to your
company again next Sunday. Take care of a great week.

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