November 1, 2025 • 13 mins
On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for 2nd November 2025, Ruud chats about the dealing with moths in trees, keeping an eye out for hornets, and how to grow brussel sprouts.
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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News talks'b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right, bit of a mad rush at the end of
the last hour and that's my inability to read time.
So my thanks to Mark Roberts from Auckland Council for
joining us. And one of the things that we will
probably get them back on have a bit of a
chat about this is a team that they have that
actually actively go out and visit sites, talk to contractors
(00:36):
and so on about how they're managing their waste and
so on, which is a great initiative. And of course
Auckland Council, like most councils around the country, also administer
community recycling schemes which are really great. There are awesome
organizations you know, around the corner from you in many
cases that do a tremendous amount of work. I also
mentioned as part of our discussion last week waste tub
(01:01):
dot co dot nz is a great resource. The other
thing to do is to just simply google brands waste
or brand's resource Recovery map so b r a n
Z recovery map and then anywhere you are in the
country you just type in what you've got that you
want to dispose of and it'll tell you where to
(01:23):
go in the nicest possible way, which is awesome. Righty Oh, Now,
slight change to the plan today because we've got a
pretty important match between the abs and island that are
made of Mine's actually sitting in the crowd in Chicago
at the moment. Commentary begins at eight point thirty, so
we've got Rud. We've woken them up extra early. Get
(01:43):
them here just after eight o'clock. We'll talk all things
gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as well. Rud,
Can I jump in and go? How freaked out should
we be about this yellow legged hornet that seems to
have taken up occupation in well Auckland At this stage.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'd bit get. I'm not too happy with these guys,
by the way, Peter. I've seen them around in Japan
and places like Indonesia, so no sense of humor. They
will go for anything that they don't like. They'll eat bees,
and that, of course gives the bee keeping industry quite
a bit of a No. It's not good. And I
(02:26):
am not sure where we are with the numbers at
the moment, because i've been actually I'm about a kilometer
away from you, and I tried to get to the studio,
but it wouldn't work for me because I'm working with
guess what Auckland Council.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Really Okay, well we just did mark from council on before.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, there you go. We're doing a predator free HUI
all day to day talking about how to catch all
the Nazis, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And it's
going to be a stunning day with all the people
that have subscribed to coming here today. But anyway, come
back to that that hornet, no not good, big thing.
(03:03):
I hope we can we can still be on the
top of the numbers. Are the numbers at the moment?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Something about yeah and yeah A couple yesterday or in
the last few days. What I what I wanted to
ask you about is that you know online and I
know social media. You know, got to be a bit
cautious about taking advice from social media. A couple of
people have suggested that there's like something that we can
(03:31):
do if we're and there's these little homemade traps with
a certain type of material in them that will attract
the hornets and that sort of thing. Is there any validity,
Is there anything that I can do or anyone in
Auckland can do to try and be active in terms
of trapping them and capturing and killing them basically.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, to be quite honest, I suppose I could do it,
because I've done things like this before, you know, as
an entomologist. But I would say, be very very careful,
don't buck around, and really the first thing you really
need to do is just get hold of MPI and
see if they could come out. They've got a good
team of people that will come and get rid of
(04:14):
this little rotter. You know. You know what I'm like
with having a bit of a joke about doing wasps
and that sort of stuff at night. Somebody holds the torch,
you run to the wasp, You toss it quickly into
a bag, put it in the freezer, and you've got it.
But if something goes wrong, of course the wasps or
the hornets will go to the person with the torch
(04:35):
in their hand. You got it, So I wouldn't. I
wouldn't do that people, No, But honestly.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
That really surprised me that as I saw a photograph
for the first time of the nest that the queen
makes and and it's it can be as large as
a tennis ball.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yep, that's right. Whereas the paper wasp has got i know,
the German wash it's got one that is probably the
a goldful is that?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And that means that is how the female basically gets
the first brood going of say twenty or thirty new
waspirits that will then help to set up the big colony.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, right, But I mean we've all seen them, you know,
tucked under the eve and that sort of thing, or
somewhere earlier in the middle of a tree. You come
across these paper wasps and German wasp nests. But this
red or this yellow legged hornet, it's actually it's a
beautiful piece of architecture in a sense, but quite identifiable,
(05:49):
isn't it. So that's what people should be looking out
for as well.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it's quite a bit bigger than the normal world
that we always know, and you'll pick it. It's of
course dark in color, but it's got very bright ends
of their legs. All six legs have got nice yellow
bits at the end. You can see that from quite
a way away. They also probably will make it I
would say. What I remember is they were quite noisy,
(06:13):
especially when you came across them. You can hear them
kind of you know, going, and a lot more than wasps.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, right, okay, well, eyes open and if you
see it or you think you see it, get in
touch with the mp I.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, that's so one.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
All right, let's get into it. Let's uh hello, Faye,
how are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I'm good, thank you and I'm very well.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Now can I just check? Can you hear faye?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Now, what's happened here? Why have I not been able
to conference you guys? Right, I'll tell you what. Let's
until the break. Let's do it this way, Faye. If
you ask the question and then I'll put rude back
on to to give a response.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Go for it, Fai. I have several conifers through you,
some mag and I have just discovered in them a
moth which once I contacted mister Google, it looks like
it's called gregarious to night and I want to know
how I get rid of it?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
What spray?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Is there a particular insecticide that I should use?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
As if somebody has thrown a mud petty at the
tree and it's woven.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's just killing the trees. Wow, I need to know.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, okay, you can hear phase questions.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I perfectly can hear it. Yeah, here we go. Pay
This is the gregarious Tenuus is one of those things
that literally makes with numbers of catabullus starts to chew
your your plants. Now, literally any insecticides will do. I
remember prinstans. What have you got with when and forget
the one you use for? For what you've got us for?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
What do you what about? I've forgotten. It's the thing
that does the pictures that make the webs. What do
you call the web things? Spiders? You know, spiders and
things like that. Yeah, yeah, so sorry, I've just think
(08:22):
but there there was a cool name for it that
I've forgotten. The name, it doesn't matter. But if you
get that spider stuff and you spray that into your tree,
you will get rid of them. It's as simple as that. Also,
there are other spider materials or other insecticides that you
can use because they contain prometron that will work really well.
And talking about prometron, you can get some of the
(08:44):
by retroid things that we use on aircraft by safe
works safe works with an X they would work too
if you get an aerosol. How many of those trees
do you have their faith about?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Ten?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay, oh that's a lot. Now you better get something
that is that that'll that'll go for the long row?
Do it once? Doo, second time, say about three weeks later.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And do I have to sort of open up those
little mud petties as such, because the aunted caterpillar is totally.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Entwined in them. I know, I know, but the problem is,
of course that you to do that one by one
is a bit tricky. But if you made those things
wet with the insecticides, you'll find that that particular caterpillar
and will not stand stand exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Thanks really, thank you very much for that. We'll just
take a short break because we've got a couple of
ads to get through before the commentary, which will begin
at around eight thirty this morning. All Blackspy Ireland coming
up soon. Ruder is with us. Not much time today
because we have the rugby coming up. But Berry, you
want to talk about.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The wasps before we go to the wash? Well, just
before I wanted to talk to Barry, but you know why,
I couldn't remember that name of Wedn't forget it was
called miss Muffett and I forgot you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Anyway, go Berry, get on with it, right, yeah, hang on,
here we go, very there we go, Berry, go for it.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yeah, good morning. I'm just wondering, for children's sake, is
a sting from the Nazi wath compared to the hornets?
Are they similar or.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Can I about at the same They're the same strength,
if you like. Not very funny at all. Yeah, not
very good and similar, I would yeah, I would say
very similar. But what I would do is just stay
away from them, really because it does hurt for you.
As you know, when you get done by a wasp,
it verse for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And I have to say, rude looking at the photographs
of these yellow leagued hornets, the stinger on the back,
it's not a stinger. It looks like a buddy anti
aircraft gun.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Good description.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
There you go. That's exactly what it is. Yes, and
it's full of that material that makes you so a right.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, yeah, well I'm not rushing out to test it,
thank you very much. No, don't no, no, okay, all right,
Actually we'll take the break now and then we'll come
back the through it and a final question ahead of
the live commentary of the All Black Smatch back in
the Bow.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
God. They would steal shops battery system. Kids get a
second battery half price.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Literally two minutes to go.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Ray.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Brussels sprouts?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, Brussels sprouts? How many do I pull off them?
If I would say I started off with six and
now I'm down to two the weather has been bad
or whatever. Now they started to put some Brussels spouts
on them? Do I pull every second one off or
whatever I do?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What do you mean with you've gone from six to two?
The number of plants that survived?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, the lumber of plants that have survived.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What have you got into soil there?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Ray, Well, it's a pretty over hat. They're in pots.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, big pots, I hope, because they really do like
their their roots to be going all over the place
to get their food.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Of course, Oh okay, all right, they're chippy enough then.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And what is the constitution of it? Is that organic
material or is it is it? Is it soil as well?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And plenty of path in horses? The horses? What the horses?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I know what you mean with horses? What they leave thee.
I think you might have gone over the top a
little bit with that because the amount of nitrogen there
is so much that you probably went too far. And
the and the other thing is not just organic material
and horse poo. Sorry, nearly said the wrong word here.
(12:59):
I think you need to do at least more than
fifty of mineral soil. That means, you know, the stuff
did you get in loan and play and and things
like that, because I can't just be organic material, Honestly,
it's not gonna work like that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Sorry, I water them. I've got the horse govern and
a plastic container, and I use the water to water
down the roade.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Maybe maybe it is the case of too much of
a good thing.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Rude, Yes, it is far too much of a good thing.
And if I would, if I would put you in
a horse pool by bucket, I think you wouldn't like that,
to be quite honest, Ray.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Fantastic, Look there, that's wise words for anyone.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Ray.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Hope that helps the red climb pass. Enjoy your day,
educating people, take care.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Sea all this.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
For more from the Resident Builder with Peter Wolfcamp, listen
live to news talks they'd be on Sunday mornings from six,
or follow the podcast on iHeartRadio
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News talks'b.
Speaker 2 (00:12):
Right, bit of a mad rush at the end of
the last hour and that's my inability to read time.
So my thanks to Mark Roberts from Auckland Council for
joining us. And one of the things that we will
probably get them back on have a bit of a
chat about this is a team that they have that
actually actively go out and visit sites, talk to contractors
(00:36):
and so on about how they're managing their waste and
so on, which is a great initiative. And of course
Auckland Council, like most councils around the country, also administer
community recycling schemes which are really great. There are awesome
organizations you know, around the corner from you in many
cases that do a tremendous amount of work. I also
mentioned as part of our discussion last week waste tub
(01:01):
dot co dot nz is a great resource. The other
thing to do is to just simply google brands waste
or brand's resource Recovery map so b r a n
Z recovery map and then anywhere you are in the
country you just type in what you've got that you
want to dispose of and it'll tell you where to
(01:23):
go in the nicest possible way, which is awesome. Righty Oh, Now,
slight change to the plan today because we've got a
pretty important match between the abs and island that are
made of Mine's actually sitting in the crowd in Chicago
at the moment. Commentary begins at eight point thirty, so
we've got Rud. We've woken them up extra early. Get
(01:43):
them here just after eight o'clock. We'll talk all things
gardening and the wonderful world of bugs as well. Rud,
Can I jump in and go? How freaked out should
we be about this yellow legged hornet that seems to
have taken up occupation in well Auckland At this stage.
Speaker 3 (02:05):
I'd bit get. I'm not too happy with these guys,
by the way, Peter. I've seen them around in Japan
and places like Indonesia, so no sense of humor. They
will go for anything that they don't like. They'll eat bees,
and that, of course gives the bee keeping industry quite
a bit of a No. It's not good. And I
(02:26):
am not sure where we are with the numbers at
the moment, because i've been actually I'm about a kilometer
away from you, and I tried to get to the studio,
but it wouldn't work for me because I'm working with
guess what Auckland Council.
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Really Okay, well we just did mark from council on before.
That's awesome.
Speaker 3 (02:42):
Yeah, there you go. We're doing a predator free HUI
all day to day talking about how to catch all
the Nazis, et cetera, et cetera, et cetera. And it's
going to be a stunning day with all the people
that have subscribed to coming here today. But anyway, come
back to that that hornet, no not good, big thing.
(03:03):
I hope we can we can still be on the
top of the numbers. Are the numbers at the moment?
Speaker 2 (03:10):
Something about yeah and yeah A couple yesterday or in
the last few days. What I what I wanted to
ask you about is that you know online and I
know social media. You know, got to be a bit
cautious about taking advice from social media. A couple of
people have suggested that there's like something that we can
(03:31):
do if we're and there's these little homemade traps with
a certain type of material in them that will attract
the hornets and that sort of thing. Is there any validity,
Is there anything that I can do or anyone in
Auckland can do to try and be active in terms
of trapping them and capturing and killing them basically.
Speaker 3 (03:52):
Well, to be quite honest, I suppose I could do it,
because I've done things like this before, you know, as
an entomologist. But I would say, be very very careful,
don't buck around, and really the first thing you really
need to do is just get hold of MPI and
see if they could come out. They've got a good
team of people that will come and get rid of
(04:14):
this little rotter. You know. You know what I'm like
with having a bit of a joke about doing wasps
and that sort of stuff at night. Somebody holds the torch,
you run to the wasp, You toss it quickly into
a bag, put it in the freezer, and you've got it.
But if something goes wrong, of course the wasps or
the hornets will go to the person with the torch
(04:35):
in their hand. You got it, So I wouldn't. I
wouldn't do that people, No, But honestly.
Speaker 2 (04:49):
That really surprised me that as I saw a photograph
for the first time of the nest that the queen
makes and and it's it can be as large as
a tennis ball.
Speaker 3 (04:59):
Yep, that's right. Whereas the paper wasp has got i know,
the German wash it's got one that is probably the
a goldful is that?
Speaker 4 (05:09):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (05:10):
And that means that is how the female basically gets
the first brood going of say twenty or thirty new
waspirits that will then help to set up the big colony.
Speaker 2 (05:24):
Yeah, right, But I mean we've all seen them, you know,
tucked under the eve and that sort of thing, or
somewhere earlier in the middle of a tree. You come
across these paper wasps and German wasp nests. But this
red or this yellow legged hornet, it's actually it's a
beautiful piece of architecture in a sense, but quite identifiable,
(05:49):
isn't it. So that's what people should be looking out
for as well.
Speaker 3 (05:52):
Yeah, it's quite a bit bigger than the normal world
that we always know, and you'll pick it. It's of
course dark in color, but it's got very bright ends
of their legs. All six legs have got nice yellow
bits at the end. You can see that from quite
a way away. They also probably will make it I
would say. What I remember is they were quite noisy,
(06:13):
especially when you came across them. You can hear them
kind of you know, going, and a lot more than wasps.
Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, yeah, right, okay, well, eyes open and if you
see it or you think you see it, get in
touch with the mp I.
Speaker 3 (06:28):
Yeah, that's so one.
Speaker 2 (06:29):
All right, let's get into it. Let's uh hello, Faye,
how are you this morning?
Speaker 3 (06:35):
I'm good, thank you and I'm very well.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
Now can I just check? Can you hear faye?
Speaker 4 (06:41):
Ah?
Speaker 2 (06:42):
Now, what's happened here? Why have I not been able
to conference you guys? Right, I'll tell you what. Let's
until the break. Let's do it this way, Faye. If
you ask the question and then I'll put rude back
on to to give a response.
Speaker 5 (06:56):
Go for it, Fai. I have several conifers through you,
some mag and I have just discovered in them a
moth which once I contacted mister Google, it looks like
it's called gregarious to night and I want to know
how I get rid of it?
Speaker 6 (07:17):
What spray?
Speaker 5 (07:18):
Is there a particular insecticide that I should use?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
It?
Speaker 5 (07:21):
As if somebody has thrown a mud petty at the
tree and it's woven.
Speaker 3 (07:26):
It's just killing the trees. Wow, I need to know.
Speaker 2 (07:30):
Yeah, yeah, okay, you can hear phase questions.
Speaker 3 (07:35):
I perfectly can hear it. Yeah, here we go. Pay
This is the gregarious Tenuus is one of those things
that literally makes with numbers of catabullus starts to chew
your your plants. Now, literally any insecticides will do. I
remember prinstans. What have you got with when and forget
the one you use for? For what you've got us for?
Speaker 1 (08:01):
Uh?
Speaker 3 (08:01):
What do you what about? I've forgotten. It's the thing
that does the pictures that make the webs. What do
you call the web things? Spiders? You know, spiders and
things like that. Yeah, yeah, so sorry, I've just think
(08:22):
but there there was a cool name for it that
I've forgotten. The name, it doesn't matter. But if you
get that spider stuff and you spray that into your tree,
you will get rid of them. It's as simple as that. Also,
there are other spider materials or other insecticides that you
can use because they contain prometron that will work really well.
And talking about prometron, you can get some of the
(08:44):
by retroid things that we use on aircraft by safe
works safe works with an X they would work too
if you get an aerosol. How many of those trees
do you have their faith about?
Speaker 4 (08:56):
Ten?
Speaker 3 (08:57):
Okay, oh that's a lot. Now you better get something
that is that that'll that'll go for the long row?
Do it once? Doo, second time, say about three weeks later.
Speaker 5 (09:08):
And do I have to sort of open up those
little mud petties as such, because the aunted caterpillar is totally.
Speaker 3 (09:16):
Entwined in them. I know, I know, but the problem is,
of course that you to do that one by one
is a bit tricky. But if you made those things
wet with the insecticides, you'll find that that particular caterpillar
and will not stand stand exactly.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Thanks really, thank you very much for that. We'll just
take a short break because we've got a couple of
ads to get through before the commentary, which will begin
at around eight thirty this morning. All Blackspy Ireland coming
up soon. Ruder is with us. Not much time today
because we have the rugby coming up. But Berry, you
want to talk about.
Speaker 3 (09:52):
The wasps before we go to the wash? Well, just
before I wanted to talk to Barry, but you know why,
I couldn't remember that name of Wedn't forget it was
called miss Muffett and I forgot you know what I mean.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Anyway, go Berry, get on with it, right, yeah, hang on,
here we go, very there we go, Berry, go for it.
Speaker 6 (10:15):
Yeah, good morning. I'm just wondering, for children's sake, is
a sting from the Nazi wath compared to the hornets?
Are they similar or.
Speaker 3 (10:28):
Can I about at the same They're the same strength,
if you like. Not very funny at all. Yeah, not
very good and similar, I would yeah, I would say
very similar. But what I would do is just stay
away from them, really because it does hurt for you.
As you know, when you get done by a wasp,
it verse for quite a while.
Speaker 2 (10:47):
And I have to say, rude looking at the photographs
of these yellow leagued hornets, the stinger on the back,
it's not a stinger. It looks like a buddy anti
aircraft gun.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
Good description.
Speaker 3 (11:01):
There you go. That's exactly what it is. Yes, and
it's full of that material that makes you so a right.
Speaker 2 (11:07):
Okay, yeah, well I'm not rushing out to test it,
thank you very much. No, don't no, no, okay, all right,
Actually we'll take the break now and then we'll come
back the through it and a final question ahead of
the live commentary of the All Black Smatch back in
the Bow.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
God. They would steal shops battery system. Kids get a
second battery half price.
Speaker 2 (11:27):
Literally two minutes to go.
Speaker 3 (11:28):
Ray.
Speaker 2 (11:28):
Brussels sprouts?
Speaker 4 (11:30):
Yeah, Brussels sprouts? How many do I pull off them?
If I would say I started off with six and
now I'm down to two the weather has been bad
or whatever. Now they started to put some Brussels spouts
on them? Do I pull every second one off or
whatever I do?
Speaker 3 (11:48):
What do you mean with you've gone from six to two?
The number of plants that survived?
Speaker 4 (11:53):
Yeah, the lumber of plants that have survived.
Speaker 3 (11:56):
What have you got into soil there?
Speaker 4 (11:58):
Ray, Well, it's a pretty over hat. They're in pots.
Speaker 3 (12:05):
Yeah, big pots, I hope, because they really do like
their their roots to be going all over the place
to get their food.
Speaker 4 (12:13):
Of course, Oh okay, all right, they're chippy enough then.
Speaker 3 (12:20):
And what is the constitution of it? Is that organic
material or is it is it? Is it soil as well?
Speaker 4 (12:29):
And plenty of path in horses? The horses? What the horses?
Speaker 3 (12:39):
I know what you mean with horses? What they leave thee.
I think you might have gone over the top a
little bit with that because the amount of nitrogen there
is so much that you probably went too far. And
the and the other thing is not just organic material
and horse poo. Sorry, nearly said the wrong word here.
(12:59):
I think you need to do at least more than
fifty of mineral soil. That means, you know, the stuff
did you get in loan and play and and things
like that, because I can't just be organic material, Honestly,
it's not gonna work like that.
Speaker 4 (13:15):
Sorry, I water them. I've got the horse govern and
a plastic container, and I use the water to water
down the roade.
Speaker 2 (13:25):
Maybe maybe it is the case of too much of
a good thing.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Rude, Yes, it is far too much of a good thing.
And if I would, if I would put you in
a horse pool by bucket, I think you wouldn't like that,
to be quite honest, Ray.
Speaker 2 (13:40):
Fantastic, Look there, that's wise words for anyone.
Speaker 4 (13:43):
Ray.
Speaker 2 (13:44):
Hope that helps the red climb pass. Enjoy your day,
educating people, take care.
Speaker 4 (13:49):
Sea all this.
Speaker 1 (13:54):
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