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December 13, 2025 24 mins

On The Garden Hour with Pete Wolfkamp and Ruud Kleinpaste Full Show Podcast for December 14 2025, Ruud discusses how to get rid of Mealybugs, how to control Montbretia, and how to deal with bronze beetles.

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Speaker 1 (00:06):
You're listening to the Resident Builder podcast with Peter Wolfcamp
from News Talks at Bay.

Speaker 2 (00:53):
Already, as always on Sunday morning, it's time to get
into the garden. We're bang on time, Red climb pass.
Good morning, sir, Good morning.

Speaker 3 (01:01):
Are you feeling yourself really cool in the UK with
four point thirty sunset and.

Speaker 2 (01:07):
So yeah, you know it's the sun's not up till
eight thirty or something like that. Some frost in the garden,
beautiful garden at the house that we're staying, and really
lovely just just to see, I mean, even like most
of the leaves have already fallen off the trees, but
there's a big old oak tree in the backyard that's

(01:27):
now lost the last of its leaves. Beautiful sunsets, you know,
that sort of golden hour. But yeah, at four thirty
in the afternoon, that takes a bit of getting used to.

Speaker 3 (01:37):
Yeah, Julie and I had a conversation about driving in
the UK after your comment when we were there reasons
you remember, well you probably well you probably do when
we were there quite often, you know, because she had
family there.

Speaker 4 (01:55):
Yeah, sure you needed some ways.

Speaker 3 (01:58):
To get there, so you needed at least some person
looking this is going, this is where you're going, left,
this we're going right and all that.

Speaker 4 (02:07):
And I was really good at that.

Speaker 3 (02:08):
But so Julie had to drive and I was being
the navigator, and she remembered it. It was quite quite
or aw wing, you know, in terms of four for crying.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
I'd like, what now, oh yeah, left quick, that sort
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (02:22):
I mean, And that's that's in the days. And I
can remember doing a trip, you know, through Europe twenty
five years ago, right driving and one of us had
the map and the US was driving. So today's and obviously,
yes it is your phone and you follow that. But
what really struck me was, you know, between where we are,
which is not it's not a tiny tiny village. And

(02:44):
we drove to Oxford the other day. It took me
literally through Grandpa's backyard, right it was. It was farmer
Joe's you know back paddock and round the corner and
round the church and up and over the back and
I'm like cheapers. Anyway, it was, it was. It was
a lovely drive. But I said, my nerves when I

(03:07):
got back anyway.

Speaker 3 (03:08):
But that's that's exactly that's exactly what it was. It
was the fact that you didn't have a phone. It
didn't work like that. You had to do it with
a map.

Speaker 4 (03:14):
A map. There you go.

Speaker 2 (03:16):
People will wonder what that is these days exactly.

Speaker 4 (03:21):
Right away. I still use maps.

Speaker 3 (03:23):
I still use maps because they're a way Yeah, visual,
very visual, No.

Speaker 2 (03:29):
I get it. But with a turn every two hundred
meters and punch dark no lighting yet it's just incredible. Anyways,
lots of fun, right, let's get amongst it. Hey, John,
good morning to.

Speaker 5 (03:42):
You, Good morning road, Good morning Petter. I've got consubstantial
stands of prosers around my house that they form my
heads around my deck and understands, and they're being invaded
by mulumbia. How do I get rid of the mulb
without damage?

Speaker 3 (04:03):
I have a similar sort of thing at home, and
what I do is I go to the basis of
this moveling back here. It's that that moveling back here
that you might not like in your hedge. Uh and
the same with Julie. So you have to go down
to the base of where that mulinbachia starts.

Speaker 4 (04:19):
Can you do that?

Speaker 5 (04:21):
Not?

Speaker 6 (04:21):
Really?

Speaker 5 (04:22):
Not composit?

Speaker 4 (04:23):
Des two dens?

Speaker 3 (04:25):
You sure because I I can do it.

Speaker 7 (04:29):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 4 (04:32):
I can get there.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
I can do it and go as deep as I
and then what I do is I cut it off.
And then I have a little paint brush, and what
I do is I use Hitman and I chuck the
Hitman on a brush and literally get the bottom part
of where I cut it off. And that basically can
that basically stops that thing from growing up again. You

(04:53):
can use any fertilizer or any fertilis, any weat killers
you like.

Speaker 4 (04:58):
When you do.

Speaker 3 (04:58):
It, it doesn't matter, you know, whatever you've got, But
that's the way to go about it.

Speaker 4 (05:05):
Then it works well because you have to do it twice.

Speaker 5 (05:08):
Yeah, there's no discriminate spry that'll kill the bottle.

Speaker 4 (05:11):
Back about the control, No, I don't think so. I wouldn't,
dare you know what I mean?

Speaker 3 (05:18):
I would ask the same question and I would go. Now,
if I can get down to the bottom of where
that moli mechia comes up, I can do it. And
you can do it.

Speaker 2 (05:27):
Yeah, just target target the roots. John, Yeah, all all right,
you take care and Dave a very good morning to you.

Speaker 7 (05:37):
Good morning. Oh my godness is full of melli bugs.
At the moment we hit the white flies before and
I mixed up some kneem oil and dishwashing liquid and
got rid of them with the Melli bugs.

Speaker 3 (05:54):
Any answers for the six thing, Well, there are all
sorts of oils that you can use with Meai bugs,
to be quite honest. And but the point is that,
and it could be it could be your your knee oil,
your other oils. But the point is you have to
do it every ten days. And the reason for that

(06:14):
is that once you've killed those little buggers that are
there the name sorry, the Meadia bugs, then they will
lay eggs which will become adults or which will become
cheers again or suckers if you like, and you need
to get them as well. They you won't often kill
the actual eggs, so it's a matter of doing it

(06:36):
time after time after time, three times, say ten days apart.

Speaker 7 (06:40):
Ah, yeah, okay, thanks. So the other problems God is
around the back of our house. It's very shaded on
the south side. We've got to row trees and they're
all full of boar and on it. I'd like to
put in some fruit trees along there, but do you
think it'd be worth it? Along the cell side where
it doesn't get much sun, and i'd probably have to
sterilize the soil or something like that to killer bugs

(07:03):
in it. You might think it is.

Speaker 3 (07:05):
Worth well, the shade, I think is more the more
important thing. What are you thinking of planting? What sort
of fruit trees?

Speaker 7 (07:14):
Well, just a mixture of all sorts of really, I'd
love an avocado tree, and you know, like a nictorine
and a few other palm tree.

Speaker 3 (07:25):
Probably an avocado, you remember, that becomes quite a tree
that might escape the darkness if you like, when it
gets a bit older, you know what I mean, going up, Yeah,
and that it'll be lighter and that should not be
a problem.

Speaker 7 (07:40):
Yeah, we've got a fig tree down the other side
of Well, it's it's climbing for the sun all the time.
So it's I struggle to get up to the top branches.
You know, it's trying to get into the sun. So
I probably have the same problem around there, I suppose,
if I think we would reach the sky.

Speaker 3 (07:57):
But what causes the what causes the sun to be intercepted.

Speaker 7 (08:03):
The house of the house, little tiny section sort of ye,
as much as you can.

Speaker 3 (08:10):
Yeah, I thought it was the fig tree, but it
isn't Sorry.

Speaker 7 (08:13):
Yeah, do you think it is worth planning it in
the shade like we're not going to get it? Is
it worth the trouble?

Speaker 4 (08:22):
You don't have any sun at all there.

Speaker 7 (08:25):
It gets a little bit in the morning, a little
bit in the afternoon sort of thing.

Speaker 3 (08:29):
Have a try with one tree, have a look and
it could be if you could, you could do an
apple or citrus or whatever, and you might find that
it's just enough or just not enough. You'll work it
out with one tree, I suppose.

Speaker 7 (08:43):
Okay, what I need to have a go Dave and
see how you get on.

Speaker 2 (08:48):
Harry, A very good morning to you.

Speaker 8 (08:54):
Just just a question about bones beetle. We've had a
huge infestations here in North Canterbury this year. You well, well,
we're worst I've seen them years and the old destroyer
tree overnight, just the young trees of the problem. Now.
I started out in the first year with Maverick, which

(09:16):
was very very effective on the beetle, but there was
a slight problem that killed some of the trees as well.
And after I killed a few trees, I then read
the instructions and said it said don't use on new foliage,
which is exactly what you're trying to protect. So what
I've been doing ever since was going out every night

(09:40):
just like a can of fly spray and just standing
back and letting the mist drift into the tree. And
that is very very effective. Just the mist, we'll knock
them down into or three minutes. The problem with that
is you've got to do it every night where with

(10:02):
the Maverick systemic and last about ten days. But it's
also expensive, Like you know, I'd be using a can
of night and so over a couple of months. That
adds up. Now, the question was twofold. One is there
an effective systemic spray that won't harm the foliage of

(10:24):
the trees? And two I was looking at trying to
get it in the larval stage around about February, and
I was thinking of putting some dazin on or whatever
the replacement that's going to be. Apparently that's going to
be off the market very soon. But the problem is
just how far away from the tree. Well I need

(10:45):
to put those granules I see, I don't know how
far they fly. They could be coming from a kilometer away.
I see no evidence of grass grub and the paddics,
you know, the patchy damage that they cause. I can't
see where they're coming from. It might be from close
to the tree, might be from a kilometer away. So

(11:08):
I'm just not too sure where I would need to
actually put the granules.

Speaker 3 (11:14):
Okay, Harry, I just want to make sure that we're
talking literally about bronze beetle. The small the small creatures
that are brownish in color. They're about half the size
of of of you know, the one that you mentioned before,
the grass grub when it flies around.

Speaker 8 (11:30):
Well, I believe that we've got to grass cub. We've
got the grass grub and the parina. Yeah, the smaller
the grass grub.

Speaker 4 (11:40):
No, it's not it's not, no, it's not. No, it's not.
That bronze beetle is the thing.

Speaker 3 (11:46):
That's why I said really not in in in North Kentbury,
you're talking about you're literally talking about grass grub beetles
that are doing it. Oh paint in the bum I think.
And do they eat the leaves of your trees.

Speaker 8 (12:03):
And especially the tips? Yes, I mean a tree might
get established, but a year after year they're getting the
tips eating out. They just don't go anywhere. So it's yeah,
the newer growth once the tree gets established, they don't

(12:24):
seem to attack it the same way the leaves get
a bit too tough for them or not. I don't know,
but you know, if I can get a tree past
the three meter stage or four meter stage, it's generally
not too bad. They'll get some on it. But it's
just the newer trees with the pressure softer foliage that

(12:44):
they really do the damage. And if they're doing after
year the tree.

Speaker 3 (12:49):
You are aware that, for instance, yates have got a
thing called grub and purihna control that.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
Yeah, so is that.

Speaker 8 (12:59):
For spraying onto the foliage.

Speaker 3 (13:01):
Or I think so yes? And on the lawns and things.
So wherever they come out if you like.

Speaker 8 (13:07):
And I don't know where they're coming out from because
we're on a life style block, and you know, I mean,
I just don't know what I doing the whole block
or just a few meters from the tree.

Speaker 3 (13:20):
I reckon they come out of your soil though they
won't go that far. Right, Yeah, So so here comes
to here comes the name. It's chloron a trannili prol,
which is a treatment for for grass grabs.

Speaker 8 (13:35):
Especially retail.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, OK, chlor prol.

Speaker 8 (13:42):
There you go.

Speaker 3 (13:43):
It's it's an awfully long Shall I spell it out
to you, okay?

Speaker 4 (13:48):
C h L O r A N t r A
n I l I p r O l E.

Speaker 8 (14:01):
Okay. So that's it doesn't come under a brand name
at all.

Speaker 3 (14:06):
I don't I don't know, to be quite honest. That's
an active ingredient that you get for your creature. Look,
these things come of course out of the soil, and
they don't fly that well. They can fly, but if
they're going to your place, they think, oh, this is
a nice place to eat.

Speaker 4 (14:20):
I know that guy.

Speaker 3 (14:21):
He's got a great great lots of plants there. Ever
go and this will stop it in there if you
spreading him in the spring early summer.

Speaker 2 (14:28):
Right now, boom, all the very best with their hairy
That doesn't sound terrible.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
No it's not. It's a it's a robbing thing. Yeah, no,
it's a South Island thing usually.

Speaker 2 (14:39):
Yeah, right, we might talk about the North Island thing.
But later on. Hey Brian, good morning to you.

Speaker 9 (14:45):
Yeah, good morning gentlemen. Hey road, I've got a guarding business.
I've got a client that's got a couple of cutresses
that are sort of needing the wanting trim back. But
if my anchorrect that the lemonary borer are flying at
the moment and looking for places to lay their eggs,
and it's it's going to be needed to be done

(15:07):
with the hits from it. I obviously thought, you know, if
you were just doing a few limbs, you could, you
could paint it with the paste. But there's quite a
bit any suggestions on the head actually protect us citrus.

Speaker 4 (15:18):
Then yeah, do it do it after after after autumn.

Speaker 9 (15:24):
Well that's what I thought too, But the client was
wanting it done, and so yeah, okay, so there's nothing
I can actually put on it other than.

Speaker 3 (15:33):
Maybe that you're talking about, you know, putting on the cut,
you know, putting some stuff on the cut.

Speaker 9 (15:38):
Yeah, that might work, yeah, because it's yeah, but because
I'm using a hitch. Like I said, there's quite a
bit of you know, yes, you couldn't paint even little
steamed you know what I mean.

Speaker 3 (15:50):
You need all the kids have to have a little
paint brush with their stuff. Yeah, you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (15:56):
Yeah, I wouldn't No, I wouldn't do that. No, I
would not. I would not do that until it's well
after March April.

Speaker 3 (16:04):
Yeah, good time to do with that honestly, that is
the simplest and cheapest way to do it is to
extrap prevent it from happening like that.

Speaker 9 (16:13):
Yeah, exactly, like I said, Yeah, no problem, thank oh
very much, gentlemen.

Speaker 2 (16:19):
Go well, bless you, Brian, thank you very much. Hey,
a couple of quick ticks for it. Someone has bumblebees
entering under the house. They suspect they might have a hive.
Should they arrange for piss control or will it pass
in winter?

Speaker 3 (16:34):
It will pass in winter and they will be that
there's no problem at all at all. In fact, we're
doing it at the school in Techa Pole for instance.
We're we're having the same sort of thing. We're actually
giving them little holes in in in a bend in
the bank bank of a you know, up and down place. Yes,
and they love to live there and they live there

(16:55):
till maybe you know, later in summer, and that's it.

Speaker 7 (16:59):
God.

Speaker 2 (16:59):
I've seen these little bee huts bumblebee houses that you
can make and it's like little bits of bamboo all
stacked up so it's honeycomb effectively, or you know.

Speaker 3 (17:11):
Yeah, that's a different thing though, Ah yeah, but go on,
that's what that's what native native creative native bees and
things like that. But for bumblebees, you have these no
wooden boxes which are pretty cool.

Speaker 2 (17:24):
Right.

Speaker 3 (17:24):
We use those two with a little hole in them
in the front, and they go in there.

Speaker 4 (17:28):
The queen.

Speaker 3 (17:29):
Especially if you put down some old pools of mice
for some reason, they are retracted to that and they
go and live there.

Speaker 4 (17:37):
It's unbelievable.

Speaker 3 (17:39):
Okay, yeah, the smell of mice pool seems to do
it for them.

Speaker 2 (17:44):
Okay, And another quick text and then we'll take a break.
Someone wants to take up weed, mat and stones. You
know what the soil looks like after that. It's lifeless
and kind of slightly shiny and all the rest of it.
So what would you do to rehabilitate that area.

Speaker 3 (18:05):
I wouldn't use the weed these days, I would just
choose no.

Speaker 2 (18:08):
I know, that's probably why they're taking it up.

Speaker 3 (18:11):
Yeah, yeah, no, I would in that case, just get
rid of that as much as you can.

Speaker 4 (18:15):
But once you've taken it up.

Speaker 2 (18:16):
You know how it looks. You know, the soil is
kind of flat and squishy and slightly shiny.

Speaker 4 (18:22):
What would take material or material?

Speaker 3 (18:25):
That's it, and you actually start to get your npka's right.
And then you'll find that after that you can grow easily.

Speaker 2 (18:33):
Okay, brilliant. Right, we're going to take a short break.
We'll be back with Mark. We's probably got time for
a couple more calls as well. The number is eight
hundred eighty ten eighty New Soks. It'd be we are
about nine minutes away from New Sport and with the

(18:55):
top of the are at nine o'clock. But right now
we're talking to film. Good morning, get a fu morning.

Speaker 10 (19:01):
How are you boys?

Speaker 4 (19:02):
We're good, thank you.

Speaker 10 (19:03):
Well, now I'm not sure exactly what these trees are,
but I've got some trees and I've been told an
olive type tree. They have a little white flower that
comes out only lasts for about three weeks. It's beautiful.
They're a little silvery underside leaf and green on top.
Now I was wanting to I let them grow into

(19:23):
big trees. So I want to get them because I
don't think they naturally are meant to be like that's
supposed to keep them trimmed up. So I want to
get them reshaped, topped and thinned up in that. And
I was just wondering what the best time would be
to do that, to get someone under do it.

Speaker 4 (19:42):
So they had flowered already.

Speaker 10 (19:45):
Yeah, yeah, they've flowered already. They flowered about they flower
in the sort of spring.

Speaker 9 (19:51):
For about three about three weeks.

Speaker 10 (19:53):
They flower in the spring, and then they don't seem
to flower again. A little beautiful, little white flower. And
someone told me that they're an olive type tree.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
Yeah, most trees to have green leaves, I noticed.

Speaker 3 (20:10):
Yeah, yeah, okay, until here you go. What I would
do is I would take I start shaping it now.
And the reason is you will still have lots of
months for the tree to refurbish exactly what you've shaped out.
In other words, this is the time when a tree
can literally make itself, you know, restore what you've taken

(20:32):
out and taken off.

Speaker 4 (20:33):
So this is a good time to do it anyway, okay.

Speaker 10 (20:37):
And would that be like they've ground taller than my health,
you see. So I wanted to top them, right, I
wanted to top them on. But I've been lazy, or
I've been lazy. I'm lazy on my mats. So I
wanted to top them as well and get them down under,
down under the house so they're not getting into the
spelting the leaves in it fall off.

Speaker 3 (20:55):
You need a blinking and blinking good letter, or you
need a very good iborist who can do it for
you and to be to be finalist.

Speaker 4 (21:02):
That's my guess.

Speaker 3 (21:03):
I think iborists, good ieborists are worth their weight in gold.

Speaker 2 (21:08):
Go In this instance, Althow saying that I did been
driving around. No, No, I did have been driving around today.
Ended up at B and Q. Right, the big hardware
stoor walked in the founder set of Viscars loppers that
I've never seen in my life before. Couldn't resist, so
I bought myself. I just got to find the trader with.

Speaker 3 (21:32):
Big handles short.

Speaker 2 (21:36):
That's the beauty of it. Yeah, yeah, I'll send you photo.
I'm excited. I'm excited.

Speaker 3 (21:48):
Well, we'll talk to your your our mates on the
north Shore.

Speaker 2 (21:51):
Right, yeah, absolutely, absolutely no, it's very very cool, very
cool radio. Who have we got the next? Mark? This
will be the last one, just for a minute with you,
Mark how.

Speaker 6 (22:03):
Oh, good morning and Peter. I've I've heard you speak
of success in the past, and it's not one hundred
percent success successful, But I am responsible for a mandarin
tree and at the end of the flowering, at the
end of October, I started spraying success fortnightly for guabomov.

(22:25):
Now how long do I continue the spraying.

Speaker 3 (22:28):
Every ten ten days to two two weeks? Three weeks maybe?
And it's because of the young ones coming out on
a regular basis.

Speaker 6 (22:36):
Yees, So only for three or four weeks?

Speaker 3 (22:40):
No, no, and you do it at least three times
a couple of weeks apart.

Speaker 6 (22:45):
Oh, all right, because I've been going right through till
about February.

Speaker 3 (22:48):
You see, well you can you can do that sometimes
that will work like that, Yeah, absolutely, Okay, So it's
a matter of repetition, repetition years.

Speaker 6 (23:00):
I do fortnightly and I've done it for three years,
but I've continued on till about worry.

Speaker 3 (23:07):
You have to remember that it's that guamov lay eggs
on fruit, Okay, so that's when that's when the big
thing starts. That is the timing for you.

Speaker 9 (23:17):
Yeah, very good.

Speaker 2 (23:21):
With that one, mark. And if I was there, i'd
lene you my new foscat And again I am keen
the ever crack they could. I think they could be
a very useful tool. So I'm really looking forward to that. Anyway, matey,
thank you again, and well we'll do it all again.
From a new secret location next week.

Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, let's do it all right, all right, you.

Speaker 2 (23:44):
Look after yourself. Thank you all this. Hey, folks, thanks
very much for your company. I know there's every now
and then small technical issues with the sort of ob
outside broadcast, but we we we got there in the end.
So look forward to joining you again next Sunday at
News c B. Understand there's a little bit of inclement

(24:05):
with us, so the Hitches and the Upper North Island
take care and we'll talk to you again next Sunday.

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