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Seven d O C D A L I.
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So President Trump, in his presser a week or two ago,
as it pertained to pregnant women and Tyland all, you know,
he decided to go out of his.
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Lane and give medical advice.
Speaker 3 (00:56):
Listen, Trump, stick to the money, you know money, I'll
stick to nationals. Stick to get the hostages out, Okay,
I would not. You don't have to go into the
doctor lane. Okay, you hired some good doctors. Let them,
you know, handle this. But he was frustrated with the
shots that were polyvalent multiple like MMR. The MMR verisolo vaccine,
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which gave not only MMR but chickenpox coverage that got
phased out because there was a smaller risk of FBRIL seizures.
Kids getting seizures after their temperature would rise pretty quickly,
seizures not necessarily epileptic seizures.
Speaker 2 (01:41):
And so the the.
Speaker 3 (01:43):
Combo shot that had you know, both the MMR or
including the m R the measles momsabella as well as
the chicken pox that got phased out. And so based
on those concerns, he goes, why then is the MMR
a combo? Why are we're splitting those up? And so,
you know, MR has been around for a while, very safe.
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There are side effects as with everything, oh gimbray, uh, trumbocidipedia,
just like with any vaccine, and so it's not that
illogical to question, you know, is it safer to do
a single shot versus a combo? The problem is is
these kids are getting so many shots as it is.
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Every time you inject that could bring infection. That's another shot.
And so I'm actually a fan. If it's safer, If
the combo is safer and less side effects than three
separate ones, I support the single the combo. But I
guess what's happening now is people are questioning, well, is
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it safe now the or is it safer to do
the combo or is it safer to individualize the vaccines.
Speaker 2 (03:00):
The problem is is, you.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Know, parents are already you know, kind of feeling a
little overwhelmed with all the vaccines or kids are getting.
Speaker 2 (03:09):
And now on top of that.
Speaker 3 (03:10):
You're trippling one that they get, you know, at a
year and at four years old, the MMR, and and
that that might be just too much. In fact, that's
why we already have parents ripping their kids, their their
kids out of school and homeschooling because with the COVID
vaccine on top of the mix, it was the last straw.
And these parents are like, I'm done, it's too many vaccines.
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I'm not convinced that this is all for our best
interests and not the pharmaceutical company best interests. That these
parents are freaking out. So I think you start to
split up the MMR, that could freak them out. The
act Acting Director CDC Director Jim O'Neil has called on
vaccine manufacturers to develop separate shots from measles and mumpsterbella
uh and he wants the MMR vaccine replaced with safe
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monovalent vaccines.
Speaker 2 (03:56):
Now some doctors are in support of this.
Speaker 3 (03:57):
Why, well, you do have many parents that, as I've said,
the unvaccinated population. If you ask them, you know, what,
of the vaccines, which one is making you not want
to vaccinate your child?
Speaker 2 (04:17):
The number one vaccine they bring up is the MMR.
Speaker 3 (04:22):
I mean, I've even had parents come in when I
had my clinic where they say, look, I want tetanus,
I want hepatitis vaccine, but I don't want the MMR.
And so people have been very fearful of the MMR.
They debunked the study in the nineties about autism. I
somehow somebody thought the MMR was causeding autism rates, and
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then that got debunked.
Speaker 2 (04:45):
But still people have this hesitancy.
Speaker 3 (04:47):
And so one advantage some doctors are looking at is
if you do have parents that do want the child
vaccinated for measles, but they don't want the rebella or
the mumps part of it all, then at least we
could give people the measles vaccine. And that's something that
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I didn't realize was going on because when first I
heard it, I'm like, guys, you know, just just kind
of leave all enough alone. You know, we do need
to figure out why we have rising child autism. We
do need to, you know, make sure that vaccines are safe.
We do need to make sure we're not over injecting kids.
So I agree with us looking at that, but I
was like, you know, Trump, I need to stay in
your lane just until you got the hostages back and
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we get everything else in order. Stock market's going up,
You're doing some good things. Just leave the the you know,
leave it to us doctors. We doctors will handle you
know this this, But we have a lot of individuals
who are a little nervous about this. Measles comes back.
Measles is making a comeback, and it is making a
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comeback in some vaccinated individuals.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
And so when I talk to.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
Some parents about this, they're like, can I just get
a measles booster?
Speaker 2 (06:00):
I know you need to, You'll get it through the MMR.
Speaker 3 (06:02):
They're like, why don't we have just a measles vaccine.
I don't want the whole MMR. I just want the
measles to boost. And that is an interesting argument. So
I do agree that we should have an ability to
have the single vaccine if we need it. I think
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there was even a vaccine where they even combined appetitis
and then they separated it out. So it's not that
uncommon to consider separate now just we've had the MMR
for decades and we're you know, we're comfortable with it.
But I do agree that we should also in our
arsenal have the separate individual shots. I don't think it hurts,
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and I think a pharmacutical company should be able to
look at that. And what's also very promising about something
like that is if we do then find that of
the MMR separated, we see more issues with one vaccine
than another. Okay, well then we could kind of break down,
now what's going on here? And so so you're seeing
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parents refuse all three, Maybe we need to study those more,
and maybe the only way to study them is to
separate the three. So now, as of now, I prefer
the COMBO. I think parents can swallow that better. I
think it's it's it has enough proven safety. But I
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do agree that pharmaceutical companies should make sure we have
if we needed, because I'm really getting the feeling that
a lot of us don't have enough measles protection from
the older vaccine now that we have newer strains where
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quick like and subscribe. So a question I often get
in various different forms, this is my spouse cheating when
X Y and Z some of these x y and
zs are they're in touch with an X on Facebook
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or Instagram, or they appear like somebody or be thinking
about somebody that's not me.
Speaker 2 (11:11):
Is it cheating to have a backup where.
Speaker 3 (11:14):
You have a close friend, lady friend, guy friend, just
in case you get dumped that you could then have
as your backup spouse.
Speaker 2 (11:26):
Is that cheating?
Speaker 3 (11:28):
So the answer is yes and no, and it's it
depends on you know what your definition of cheating is.
I mean to me, you know, if you're fantasizing, you
know you're hoping to be with somebody else other than
the person who you said your vowels to, then whether
it's mental or physical, you know that that's a form
of cheating. On the other end, is it very common
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and in human nature to love more than one person
and to be faithful. But well, think about somebody else. Now,
it's very common. It's not you know, shall we say
legal in some religions, but it.
Speaker 2 (12:12):
Is a common thing.
Speaker 3 (12:14):
And nobody really wants to talk about that because they
can't because you know, the wife will like be like,
well well.
Speaker 2 (12:18):
What or hobb He's like, excuse me, what are you
talking about? And so, you know this, nobody talks about it.
Speaker 3 (12:27):
I get to hear some of it as a doctor
and as you know, a radio host because.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
They're like, well, my husband does this, and my husband
does this. Do I have to be worried? Do I?
Speaker 3 (12:37):
Uh? And and so you know, what I would tolerated
my marriage is not what I would expect or not tolerate.
Speaker 2 (12:44):
It's not what I would expect with you, like, for example, I.
Speaker 3 (12:46):
Don't you know, I know a lot of people will
not tolerate porn, will not tolerate uh you know, uh
uh if all the guys are doing a bachelor party
and they're going to a strip club, you know, there's
many wives that would not you know, tolerate that.
Speaker 2 (13:01):
Me I'm like, fine, just you know, don't don't spend
a lot of money.
Speaker 3 (13:04):
I mean, I my husband doesn't go to script clubs much.
Speaker 2 (13:07):
You know. Now this friends are older and nobody's getting married.
Speaker 3 (13:09):
But but you know, my only rule is don't be
tipping twenties. Okay, you know, don't be wasting money on
you know. But but I that just didn't bother me.
It didn't bother me. If he looks at you know,
like if there's an rat in ar movie and there's
you know, the naked woman, I don't I don't think
he's looking at that as going, oh, well, I wish
(13:32):
I had that instead of Dahlia. I don't feel that way.
Maybe it's because I'm very confident. Maybe it's because I'm
very secure with the relationship, you know, and maybe it's
because I'll look at Michael Fastbender and go ah, and
I don't even try to hide.
Speaker 2 (13:46):
Her from a husband. There the Band of Brothers.
Speaker 3 (13:49):
We saw a Band of Brothers years ago, and my
husband was rewatching it, and I go, God, that.
Speaker 2 (13:54):
Guy looks like Michael Fastbender.
Speaker 3 (13:56):
And I decide to IMDb, you know, see who's who's
in the movie, and it looks like Michael Fassbender. One
of his early Roles was in Band of Brothers. So
I go to my husband and I go Michael Fassbender
was in Band of Brothers. He goes, yeah, we need
to watch a whole series again.
Speaker 2 (14:14):
He's like, are you kidding me? So he knows I like.
Speaker 3 (14:18):
Michael Fassbender doesn't hurt our marriage. I'm not cheating on him.
I'm not gonna leave him.
Speaker 2 (14:25):
But yeah, I had to receive the whole Band.
Speaker 3 (14:27):
Of Brothers and then try to find where I saw
Michael fassbenders the young man of the two thousands. So,
you know, it's it's not that uncommon to you know,
look at a sut celebrity and go, that person's hot.
Speaker 2 (14:39):
You know, what would it be like if I got
to be, you know, with that celebrity.
Speaker 3 (14:43):
That that's not fantasies happen and Mary couples have to
understand that there could be those fantasies.
Speaker 2 (14:51):
Where my concern.
Speaker 3 (14:53):
Is is, you know, if there is a friend or
an ex, hey, you know, being a woman, for me,
nest is a big part of our DNA, not to
stereotype of women, but for those of us motherly types,
we nest and we need to make sure that nest
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is strong and can withstand storms, both allegorically and and
and literally and figuratively.
Speaker 2 (15:23):
And so I need to know that.
Speaker 3 (15:25):
That home is not going to be wrecked by somebody
else trying to come into the nest, because I will
kick her butt out of that nest faster than she
can blink. And So, if you know my husband has
a friend or you know, if he talks to somebody,
or if there's an ex that that you know, reaches
out on Facebook, you know, I luckily I feel very
(15:48):
you know, comfortable, and you know he feels comfortable. I mean,
I'm friends with exes, and I'm protially because some of
the exes were actually my husband's friends. I dated a
couple of my husband's friends before we actually dated, so that,
you know, was you know, something that was kind of
so anyway, So and honestly, I am so glad I'm
(16:11):
not with either of them. Yeah, so uh yeah, there's
a few of them. Actually there's there's three, but that's
but listen, my husband wasn't ready to settle down, and
so you know, by the time I finally started, I
didn't start seriously dating my husband until medical school.
Speaker 2 (16:27):
Well, you know, in college.
Speaker 3 (16:28):
Yeah, I'm going to be dating and it just still
happened because he went to the same school that we
ended up dating with friends.
Speaker 2 (16:33):
But that's okay. I was still a good girl.
Speaker 3 (16:34):
I don't want to dig myself a bigger hole than
a mat But but you know what, if you talk
about you communicate with it and go you know, I
dated him, you know it is I you know, I
went out a couple of times.
Speaker 2 (16:45):
Whatever, I met his mom. That was about it.
Speaker 3 (16:48):
You know, if you're honest about that and you're very transparent,
it's fine. Now what about the subject that nobody wants
to talk about where they really want to have a
backup or there was somebody that isn't necessarily somebody that.
Speaker 2 (17:04):
They are the most attracted to.
Speaker 3 (17:08):
And so one concept we have in society is sometimes
the best husbands and the best wives or the best spouses.
Speaker 2 (17:16):
For you, the best partner is.
Speaker 3 (17:18):
Not necessarily your soulmate or the person you're the most
attracted to. Now, the ideal relationship is the person you
are the most attracted to is the one you end
up marrying and spend the rest of your life with.
Speaker 2 (17:34):
But that's not always the case.
Speaker 3 (17:37):
And in fact, a lot of us women learned that finding.
Just because somebody is the you know, the jock, you
know with the with the you know, six pack or
twelve pack, and all the girls are flocking around them
just because you want to date them, that might not
be the most perfect husband. See, for me, I didn't
want to marry somebody who I thought women would always
(17:59):
try to go after.
Speaker 2 (18:01):
I just didn't need that hassle. Now women have.
Speaker 3 (18:04):
I mean, I remember seeing patients try to, you know,
flirt with my husband and you know, shirt falling off
the shoulders, showing part of the bra and that kind
of stuff, and I just laughed it off. You know,
let's you know fine, but you know you Corey was
the best husband for me.
Speaker 7 (18:23):
One.
Speaker 2 (18:23):
I was very attracted to him. One, I loved him.
He was the love of my life. But my gosh
best father ever.
Speaker 3 (18:30):
Well, the best mom might not be the typical party girl,
you know, size two with the best curve. Some of
them might be you know, and and and so. Who
you decide to have a life partner with is crucial
for success. But sometimes with that is you might be
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attracted to other types. So how do you do that
without cheating? Well, I would suggest because I I'm not
a priest. I'm not a rabbi and not not not
a spiritual leader, and I don't want you to get
into trouble with your religion. But you know, my job
is just to say I commonly see this. I'm not
saying it's right by any means, but I commonly see
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people are like, look, I.
Speaker 2 (19:17):
Married them, I'm glad I married them. They're they're great
with this, But.
Speaker 3 (19:22):
I don't know if this is the person I really
you don't want to be with the rest of my life.
And and I hate to see people divorce after they
have their kids, after they have a career and go, okay,
I'm good, I'm done. Now I don't And and unfortunately
we see that happen. Is it a midlife crisis or
is it? You know what I want somebody young, vibrant
(19:42):
and you know, thank you mom, but you know for
being a good mom.
Speaker 2 (19:45):
But I want now.
Speaker 3 (19:49):
I want eye candy who knows and and and it's
it's a shame because I've seen people dumped that shouldn't
be and now they're older and they you know, they
feel like they gave their best years to somebody who
didn't stick with them.
Speaker 2 (20:08):
So you know, cheating is bad.
Speaker 3 (20:11):
Uh, Possibly breaking the integrity and hurting the integrity of
the nest is bad. But are fantasies common now? It
can a fantasy be innocent. I'm not here to answer
spiritually or religiously, but it does have. As long as
people kind of put it into perspective, make sure they're
(20:32):
not violating their religion now, and and as long as
your husband's on board with rewatching all of the banded brothers,
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So we have some breaking news this today.
Speaker 3 (22:26):
A twenty nine year old Uber driver has been unrested
in connection to those horrible and deadly Palisades fires that
took place in southern California in January. Jonathan Rindernet was
charged with maliciously starting the catastrophic fire.
Speaker 2 (22:47):
Excuse me. According to Acting.
Speaker 3 (22:49):
US Attorney Bill Essaly, the complete alleged accord to Daily
Mail that render next started a fire, and excuse me,
I got the hiccups and Pacific Palsainds on New Year's Day.
Speaker 2 (23:04):
Excuse me, I got the hiccups. I'm sorry.
Speaker 3 (23:06):
The plays eventually turned into one of the most destructive
fires in LA history. I think twelve people died, widespread destruction,
billions of dollars of.
Speaker 2 (23:17):
Damage, memories lost, and it was just horrific.
Speaker 3 (23:23):
Among the evidence that was collected from his digital devices
was an image he generated on CHATCHTP depicting a burning city.
This guy is one sixth son of a. Officials, Rinderneck
asked the AI in July twenty twenty four to make
an image showing a hellish fire scene where people were
(23:43):
watching the world burn down, watching the people struggle.
Speaker 2 (23:46):
They were laughing and.
Speaker 3 (23:47):
Joining themselves and dancing. You see how I really have
less hope for humanity when you have people like this
romar society.
Speaker 2 (23:58):
This guy is sick in the head.
Speaker 3 (24:01):
Officials said they believe the Palastaates fire was a holdover fire,
a continuation from the Lockman fire allegedly started by Rindernet
render was arrest. Rindernet was arrested in Florida, according to officials,
and I guess he is going to be in court
today around right now. I believe he was charged with
destruction of property according to Daily Mail by means of fire,
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a felony that carries a mandatory minimum five year prison
sentence and is punishable for up to twenty years. The
fire that erupted on January seventh killed twelve people, destroyed
more than six thousand homes and buildings in the Pacific Palisades.
You also had the Malibu fires, you had the you
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had multiple other fires that ended up then resulting from
the wind and the debris and unfortunately or possible copycats.
So detective said that at UH they say the Rendernet
(25:06):
was a former resident of the Palisades, apparently lit the
fire with an open flame like a lighter. He did
this after he completed an Uber ride, he said two
of his Uber passengers to complaint against him. Said two
of the Uber passengers on the night of December thirty
first said he seemed agitated and angry. And this is
(25:26):
why I really don't uber a lot. I don't know
who I'm getting into a car with. I'm just maybe
I'm old school. I just kind of feel like there
could be somebody really really sick that I'm exposing myself to.
I don't know, but detective said that at about eleven twenty eight,
That's say Night Renderneck listened to a song by French
(25:48):
artist Jossman with themes of despair and bitterness. The music
video for the song shows Jossman lighting things on fire.
Speaker 2 (25:57):
They said.
Speaker 3 (25:57):
He allegedly listened to the same song nine times in
four days, and watched the music video three times over
the same time period.
Speaker 2 (26:04):
He made several unsuccessful nine to one one.
Speaker 3 (26:07):
Calls repeatedly on January first, after starting the fire. Now,
I'd like to know what that's about. Unsuccessful nine to
one one calls?
Speaker 2 (26:20):
What does that mean they ignored him?
Speaker 3 (26:23):
Is it he didn't get through or did he hang
up before he could give them information that I'd like
a little bit more clarity on. He fled the scene
of the original fire, returned to the same trail where
he had been earlier to watch it burned. During an
interview with investigators, he lied about his location, claiming he
was near the bottom of the hiking trail. Authorities first
(26:44):
interviewed him on January twenty fourth. According to the criminal complaint,
he told them he had been in the area on
January one, but did not see anybody else In the
area at the time. The criminal indictment noted they say
that the suspects neck artery would pulsate and become visible
whenever he was asked a question about how the fire started.
(27:07):
So to see people have asked me about lie detective tests,
you know, they look at your pulse, blood.
Speaker 2 (27:12):
Pressure, you know, and changes.
Speaker 3 (27:15):
But yeah, a pulsating neck artery from the epinephrine.
Speaker 2 (27:19):
That's interesting.
Speaker 3 (27:22):
Uh, So they watch you when you take this. It
looks like they're just writing down answers, but they're watching you.
Speaker 2 (27:28):
That's crazy.
Speaker 3 (27:30):
So investigators excluded other possibilities like fireworks, lighting, and power lines.
Authorities also looked into whether a stick a reculd cause
a fire, but concluded.
Speaker 2 (27:38):
That was not the cause.
Speaker 3 (27:40):
I am blown away at how they could take a
forest fire or a wildfire, and I could tell, I
know how they could find the sword or find you know,
the ground zero, but to be able to find evidence
of something that could have been burned to a crisp
and unfortunately, you have individuals who kind of know how
this worked, where they might just light a leaf, but
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then the investigators can deduce that as well. They could
induce if it was something where somebody tried not to
leave evidence.
Speaker 2 (28:10):
And they're pretty smart.
Speaker 3 (28:13):
So La Mayor Karen Bass, she was out of town
when this happened, and then she got back by so
came back into town and then you know, uh, there
wasn't issue. There was defunding of the fire departments, and
there wasn't enough first responders, there wasn't enough water, and
it was it was a mess, and you know, there
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were lack of resources, outdated policies for studying emergency alerts,
and unfortunately the evacuation warnings were you saw videos of
people trying to flee and and it was a dangerous
scene and many people didn't even you know, get alerts.
So a report commissioned by La County Supervisors had a
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series of weaknesses, including outdated policies. Because it's a practice,
says a communication vulnerabilities, We'll see what happens to him.
This was the most destructive fire in California history. Spread rapidly. Also,
as I said, there was you know, people with electric
vehicles in their cars, which unfortunately hindered firefighters response because
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these homes couldn't be extinguished when you have an electric
vehicle burning in the garage. But nobody's really talking about that,
and so this guy needs to burn. I mean, this
was if he started this and the depth of destruction.
Now you know, he was arrested in or he's arraigned
in Florida, so we'll see what happens. But we have
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a society that we've always had individuals like this, but
I think even more so we have people, you know,
want to be assassins, people who want destruction, anarchists, whatever
their their drive is and and or whatever they call themselves.
And it's frightened to think that these are people that
it's not the norm. The majority of people are good,
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but there's I think we're shocked with what happened with
Charlie Kirk, what happened with the assassination attempts on Donald Trump.
With you know, when we look at all these disgusting
things that are happening, I think there were two young
girls that were lured into a van and then rape,
tortured and killed. Recently, I mean, we have sick individuals
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that look at the hamas attack to rape kids, breaking
their pelvises, shattering their pelvises, killing kids in front of
the parents, raping somebody while shooting them in the head.
I mean, these are we have people who are discussed
this is worse than animals. Animals don't even do this
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type of behavior, and that's unfortunately what we're what we're
surrounded by in terms of humans. And so I'm glad
that those people who were in the uber car actually
you know, reported the behavior, saying, gosh, she seemed to
agitate and I was probably an after thought, But I'm
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not sure what made them decide to.
Speaker 2 (31:13):
How do they knew to talk to these people? They
probably did.
Speaker 3 (31:15):
They probably looked at you know, who was on the
uber ride and decided to investigate him, and you know,
did you notice any weird behavior? But the fact that
they found this guy bravo. Are there more people out
there that want to do the destruction he did?
Speaker 2 (31:29):
Absolutely? You would think somebody's goal.
Speaker 3 (31:32):
Is to be in good with God, to do good
to their fellow man and neighbor. And no, I think
there are people still plotting right now to do destruction.
And I don't know how to deter when you have
somebody completely crazy.
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So one of your questions, is am I a fan
of these weight loss shots? One of my listeners asked,
they probably haven't been listening to the show much, And
I'm glad you asked that question. Yes and no, I
think these GOLP one agonists have been fantastic for those diabetes,
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being able to help them normalize their blood sugars lose
some weight.
Speaker 2 (34:46):
I think these.
Speaker 3 (34:47):
Drugs have been a huge, huge adjunct and have really
transformed a loud of diabetic care in terms of everybody
and their mother going on them so they could fit
into a bikini and lose weight.
Speaker 2 (35:01):
I'm a little mixed because of the side effects.
Speaker 3 (35:04):
I have one friend who is going blind had a
sudden vision loss, which is one of the rare side.
Speaker 2 (35:10):
Effects with these medications.
Speaker 3 (35:12):
I've had patients that end up not being able to
afford the medication long term, so go off of it,
and then they gave the way back and the rebound
weight gain starts to negate all the good things that
the weight loss does. The studies are showing that these
JLP want agnes with the weight loss of ten or
twenty percent of your weight, can you know, significantly reduce
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your risk of cancer, reduce your risk of heart disease,
reduce your risk.
Speaker 2 (35:38):
Of stroke, dementia. Fantastic studies.
Speaker 3 (35:42):
But what about those individuals that then can't afford it,
or the insurance doesn't cover it, or.
Speaker 2 (35:48):
The medicine is out.
Speaker 7 (35:50):
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Speaker 3 (35:50):
So, my husband is diabetes and his doctor, you know,
puts put him on ozempic and it took a year
to get the insurance to.
Speaker 2 (35:58):
Pay for that.
Speaker 3 (35:59):
And then once it's like ahemogob but started to improve,
they wanted the insurance wanted to stop paying for it,
and he's like, but then my sugar's going to go
back up. And then after a lot of arguing, finally
we were able to get insurance and it was still
one hundreds of dollars out of pocket. But every time
we go to renew it, it's out of stock, out
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of stock, so he gets his medicine late and that's
not sustainable.
Speaker 2 (36:28):
Why is it out of stock?
Speaker 3 (36:29):
Well, because people are using it for weight loss and
there's just not enough and they can't make these medications
quick enough. And so, you know, can we as a
society be on these medications long term? Do we have
studies looking at you know, being on this for fifty years.
We have studies of people using these medications for at
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least ten years because of the people who have diabetes,
but that's not the same population as those who are thin,
microdoccene binge eating and then going, oh, I ate too much,
so now I got to starve myself. And how these
medicines work as they slow the transit of food and
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they help increase satiety so you feel more full. But
Tracy Morgan and other individuals have said that they just
burned right through it.
Speaker 2 (37:22):
They they gained weight.
Speaker 3 (37:24):
Why, well, because this is supposed to be a tool
an adjunct. You're not supposed to, you know, go to
outback steakhouse, order a big steak and then you know,
expect the shots to Jesus take the wheel. It's doesn't
work that way. You have to actively say I'm going
to eat less. Unfortunately, what some people are doing are
skipping meals altogether. So they skip meals and then they
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they later rebound or or these medicines just stop working. Well,
you know, some side effects have been the loss of eyesight,
people's birth control not working as predictably, and some people
getting pregnant. The skin changes with weight loss. Now there's
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a study being imported by AOL where it's throwing off
critical medical scans, interfering with the doctor's ability to detect
deadly diseases, which could cause delayed diagnosis and treatments for
some Now apparently they're looking at how they interfere with
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pet CT scans. Pet CT scans combine two powerful imaging
tools to give doctors a detailed picture of what's happening
in the body. PET scan uses a radioactive substance called FDG.
It travels with the bloodstream absorbed by the tissues. Cancer
cells and other abnormal cells like those involved in inflammation
will soak it up because they have a higher metabolic rate.
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So then you could see where that goes, and then
a person possibly has cancer. The PET scanner detects the
radiation admitted by the FDG creates images that highlight where
the substance was collected.
Speaker 2 (39:02):
It's really brilliant imaging.
Speaker 3 (39:03):
The CT scan provides detailed pictures of the organs and bones,
and the combination of the two is brilliant. When combined,
you can look at the metabolic activity, you could look
at the anatomy, you could look at and it really
does help accelerate your diagnosis or checking for.
Speaker 2 (39:20):
Metastatic disease, etc. But they said.
Speaker 3 (39:23):
Patients taking these GLP ones, doctors have observed unusual patterns
of where this FDG goes, and these hot spots in
the body can then mask signs of cancer or make
healthy tissue look diseased.
Speaker 2 (39:37):
They said, we.
Speaker 3 (39:37):
Noticed unusual uptake in one of our patients on a
GLP one agonus, which prompted a wider review across our network.
We found that these altered patterns are increasingly common, yet
there is currently no national or international guidance in the
UK addressing this issue. Now, in the US, one in
eight adults have reported using the medication like o zephic wagovinjuro.
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That was from a twenty.
Speaker 2 (39:59):
Two for survey.
Speaker 3 (40:02):
Well, if you're needing scans to check for cancer, okay,
you need to make sure that you know it's gonna
pick up what it needs to pick up. You also
don't want, don't want false positives, and so that is
a concern. Doctors warned that misreading these FDG uptick patterns
can lead to unnecessary tests, incorrect cancer staging, and dangerous
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delays and care. So interestingly, the more people are on it,
the more we're I just don't think we know enough
about these drugs too. You'll recommend them long term and
and I'm so, I'm I like them, but I'm not
one on board with everybody going on them.
Speaker 2 (40:48):
Again, if the weight loss was permanent.
Speaker 3 (40:51):
Uh, you might have me there, but you know, you
go off the medicines and you gain the weight back. No,
and we we still can't trust these medications enough to
know what it could be doing to our organ So
one of the side effects of these ULPI one agonist
is pancreatitis. Pancrea titus is inflammation of the pancreas. We
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don't want to mess with the pancreas. That's just something
we learn in medical school. And we use a different
word than mess. Okay at it rhymes firetruck. You don't
blink with the pancreas. And these medications can cause pancreatitis, well, pancreatitis,
and certain cases of it, the frequency of it could
lead to pancreatic cancer. I'm not saying these medications cause cancer,
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but it just kind of reminds us of how vulnerable
we are.
Speaker 2 (41:39):
And if somebody said, Dahlia, you know you're.
Speaker 3 (41:41):
Gonna lose you know weight, you'll be one hundred and
twenty pounds, but there might be a small risk of cancer.
Speaker 2 (41:48):
You know, I could see myself go, well, you know,
I really would like to lose the.
Speaker 3 (41:51):
Weight save you know, save my heart health and all
that but it's this isn't permanent. As soon as I
go off the medicine, it's gonna come back. Not for everybody,
but I know for somebody like me, it would probably
come back. So my recommendation is is if you do
have a severe weight problem and you have other medical
conditions and you need to lose the weight, you need
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to lose weight quickly. Now make sure it's it's doctor supervised.
I understand a lot of people are getting them online now,
you know, compounded forms, things.
Speaker 2 (42:20):
Like that, but.
Speaker 3 (42:24):
Make sure you have some guidance with it, and also
make sure you're doing a regimen that's healthy.
Speaker 2 (42:30):
Eat healthy foods.
Speaker 3 (42:32):
Don't be just eating steak and diet soda, especially since
diet soda, diet soda and regular soda are linked to
liver disease even one a day. I mean a lot
of us have turned to diet soda since the eighties
because of weight loss.
Speaker 2 (42:45):
We wanted something to drink that was less sugar.
Speaker 3 (42:47):
We want to lose weight now even not only are
sugary drinks bad for you, but so are diet drinks.
But if you're going to go on these medications, take
the lowest dose possible. Eat healthy, exercise and try to
lose the weight only using it as a temporary adjunct.
Speaker 2 (43:05):
I'm in full support.
Speaker 3 (43:08):
But if you're like, no, I need to live on
this medicine like it's insulin. It's the only thing that's
gonna keep me skinny. And I'm gonna still drink alcohol
and do whatever, that's gonna be a problem.
Speaker 2 (43:19):
Now.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
What's nice is these medications do limit your cravings for alcohol,
which is good. So they are looking at these medications
for addiction and rehabilitation, which is, you know, fantastic. But
then again, what happens when you go off one eight
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