May 2, 2023 • 29 mins
D Riding expert, Toni Williams joins the ladies of Lip Service to help teach you some new tricks in the bedroom! Enjoy!
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Speaker 1 (00:02):
What us it is liftserver, Simon Angela yee, I'm Gigi McGuire.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Jazzmine Brand, I'm Laura Mora.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
And I'm Tony william Now if y'all don't know who
Tony Williams is, she's very valuable, okay, for everybody, men
and women, because you actually teach women how to ride
riding for rookies, okay. And as in writing, we mean
writing that dick.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So, and this is something that actually somebody had asked
me this as an asked you question. She was saying
that she was really self conscious about getting on top,
and you know, she didn't know the right way to
do it. But she also was self conscious about like
her bobby and her body and how she looks. And
I'm sure a lot of women have come to you
with those issues. What do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I tell them a lot of times women will come
to me for different like reasons. One girl came to
me and she had lost like a hundred or something pounds,
so because of that, she never got on top before.
She was like, Tony, I've never got on top because I.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Used to be big.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Now I lost some weight. I'm ready to show out.
I'm ready to be outside, I'm ready to be on top,
but everywhere whatever. And we just had a conversation and
I was like, just just just do it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And a lot of times they'll come to me after
class and they'll say that now I feel better. I
didn't have the confidence before. So it's usually after the
class they'll come up to me and we'll talk for
like thirty minutes. I give like about thirty minutes after
each class, and everybody will come up and tell me
that story they lost weight.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I had a lady recently. She was fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
She has not had sex and seven years because she
was going through cancer. I guess the treatments and stuff
like that. Okay, and now she got her thirty three
year old man.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yes, man, she's ready to go homeboys.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So but you hear all types of stuff women being overweight,
just some women that have never done it ever in life.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, some women are n't comfortable. They never have been
on top.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
How did you become ex? How did you master all?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
So there's there's a story. I'm not gonna tell the
whole story.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Basically, I've had a best friend and she has come
to me for all of her personal like sexual like
I guess education, okay, And in doing that, after having
a couple of sessions with me, she got engaged.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
She got engaged.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So you're like, oh, I have a formula that's working.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, it works.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And then I taught the class in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
It sold out. I taught it again in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
It sold out. I taught it again in Baltimore, it
sold out. And then I went to d C DC
sold out, Philly sold out. And then it just started spreading.
And then you're getting feedback and then the women are like,
this is going on, this is working, Tony, what do
you The husband's here, Tony, I heard about this class
I'm sending my wife.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And then when I found out that if people want
to hump on pillows and people are I'm getting good feedback, I'm.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Like, all right, let's do it. And then it went worldwide.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's the entrepreneural mindset right there, and it seems like
the thing you enjoy doing.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Is that your favorite position? What's your favorite position?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I'm sorry, I will say yeah. I will say yeah,
because you have control.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I actually really like that position too.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You know, I've always said that's the easiest way for
me to have an orgasm.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Yeah, a lot of women feel I'd like it better.
I get have an orgasm better on my back, But
I like being on top. But I like being flat
on top, like laying flat on top of it, like
that as opposed to the finisher.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
The finisher, yes, and.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I like and I like handle to.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I like reverse Cowgirls for him, but for me, I
like it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I like it o.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I like like being on top. And then I also
feel like it's like a workout.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
It is. It is.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I haven't been to the gym. Let me go, get on.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Top, put my hands up and act like, you know,
like give them and play with them and stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
In the class.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Actually, typically the girls burn between five hundred to seven
hundred calories. I put that calorie counter one and at
the end I'll have them come tell me what they got,
and it's usually between at least five hundred to seven hundred.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And the classic's like fun. I was looking at your
Instagram page. We have a good time and you can
see the women in there and it's like a real
like squats.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
How do you make the women feel comfortable to do
something like this in front of, you know, strangers.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I think it's a trust thing. One of my assistants
says that I actually protect the women and I didn't
realize it. Like one time I did a class in
Atlanta and it was a small like a window like that,
but the security was out there and just for me,
I said, can you put something up on the blinds?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And I wasn't even thinking about like protecting the women.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It was in a sense where it was like, you know,
I just want them to feel like they don't have
people looking at them, even though it's just a security guard.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
But they were like, you know, Tony, you protect us.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
It feels good, it feels safe. I think I have
good charisma. I think I'm pretty personable, and I come in.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
With I guess good energy, and a woman loved.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It, and I'm sure women come with their friends too. Yeah,
like that's a fun thing that you come together with
your homegirls, Like, come.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
On, girl, let's go. That's a great bachelor ret.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It is party idea too.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Because remember when everybody was doing the pole classes. I
feel like this is.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
The new way that I was when I had my
post studio in Atlanta, my biggest money maker was my
party artist Whole Parties for bas the Red Birthday, Girls
Night Out Divorce.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
That was like what I made the book of my
money in the business.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I feel like we need a lip service dick writing class.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I feel like y'all do took so much all right, Yeah,
I feel like I feel like y'all do a really
fun collaboration.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I think y'all should. And I'm pretty sure you'll be
like told me I was lit.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now you also now correct me if you're if I'm wrong,
But you have are you married or you have a partner.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I have a partner.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
He does real estate, yes, okay, uh huh okay, So
now how do you implement this.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
At home?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Often, so one of the things that's Q I don't
know if you've seen the videos with him actually in
the video, but sometimes he travels with me, and the
women don't always know or expect me to bring him up.
But I'll say, oh, they'll ask, well, Tony, how does
it look if you're doing it on a person, because
of course on a pillow, they think it's a little different.
So I say, babe, come on, and come on, lay down.
(06:13):
He's like, God, fine, and then it's just you know,
it's nothing for him at this point because he's just
like playing on the floor. But yeah, so I'll just
demonstrate on him and.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
And then the ladies are.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Like, oh wow, I get it now.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now their tips for a guy has a really small dick,
because you know, you can't go up high.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Oh yes, that's one of the first things we talk about.
That's that's one of the first things. That's I think
I cover everything, honestly, tell us what to do.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
If a guy's penis.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Is not so you gotta stay you can still do
the same moves. You just stay low to it. We
say call it little dick lane.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You gotta stay in little dick lane.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
You gotta stay in little dick lane.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And sometimes you go a little faster on it, okay,
but you just don't come up so high because there's
nothing up there for y'all.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And then you could break a dick that way if
you come up high and then come up with it
and then you go back down and it could bend.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Like I've had an experience where like I love to
ride like and said, that's like the way I come
the fastest, but like his sick was so big, like
I felt it up here, Like what do you do
in that?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
What's the best?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I just go slow, just take and maybe don't put
it all the way in.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
I laid down like I did that on my stomach,
like because I couldn't like sitting up was just I
tried everything, reverse cyled girl, all of that.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And I just use the elbow trick.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
What's the elbow trick?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'll show you will get the pillows elbow?
Speaker 9 (07:42):
So what is the number one like question or the
thing that the ladies bring to you?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And typically the biggest complaint is weight for them feeling
like they can't get low enough, and that usually can
be thwarted by stretching.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
It's really simple, you mean, what does what does it
mean when you can't get low enough?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Like so again, if you can't get close to the deck,
like it was.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Too big, if you're not like flexible to.
Speaker 10 (08:12):
Sit on it.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You know what I mean, Because it can become uncomfortable
if you can't get low enough and open up your
hip area, your growing area.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So some women can't open their open their legs, what
do you mean?
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Yeah, they don't stretch out much, so you know you're
growing right here like her and be painful.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, it becomes painful right here.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
So my next question would be, what is the thing
that in this journey that has surprised you the most
dealing with these women.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I don't think anything surprises really.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I don't think so, because I feel like if I'm surprised,
then it's like I'm not expecting something. And with this
sort of business, you gotta be like, I'm expecting all
types of while shit.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
So when I taught pole classes, my number one thing
that surprises me the most in my students was the
lack of confidence. I did not know that there were
so many women who weren't like And one of my
like taglines was confidence is sexy and I will always
try to bring that sexy out of them to build confidence.
And that's the reason why, because so many women were
just like not confident within themselves, within their sex appeal.
(09:16):
And you know that kind of showed a lot during
the classes.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, I would agree, but I feel like I already
know that you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I feel like I know because see you court me
off guard.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, like people say it all the time. They come
to me because you know I do own the Post studios.
You're right, Oh yeah, so in Baltimore, I'm like a
fitness studio back home. But anyway, so a lot of
times women who come and after divorce, after a breakup
and after somebody made them feel bad, and they're like,
(09:49):
I want to feel sexy again. To me, I want
to feel good. I need something to make me feel good.
I want to either lose some weight or because he made.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Me feel like shit. So that was my turn, and
I'm like, come on, come on.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Many some classes too. How can we help them get
some classes they need to us? Like we're doing all
this ship, were working out, doing stretches and class.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And they taking honey pegs right, taking honey right.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Can we figure out a way to like get these
guys in some classes like some.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
So I do do some couples classes.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I've done some couples classes and they actually work out
really well. Yes, but typically it's still the woman doing
most of the work or whatever. But I know, but
like I even did this video. I don't know if
you're s the one when I did the headstand. Yeah,
we just watched it, and a lot of the commentary.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Was like why she gotta do everything?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Why? Why?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Why?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Why he not upside down doing the handstand?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And I was like, that was.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Cute because just because we're on top, man, y'all got
a responsibility too as well.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You can't just lay there while we're on top doing
all this work. Like y'all got to, like, you know,
maybe we need to give the guy some like thrust
up classes and.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Something I don't going to be.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
As response to that thrust up, somebody said that we
should call her back shots for beginners, but.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Beginners they do because.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
I was telling you early to one of my friends
was complaining about the guy she messed with. His stroke
is not hard enough. It's like that like a timid stroke.
She was like, she was like, it's just too timid.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Like she needs to start talking to him.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
She's tried.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Men definitely be class and also to know when it's
the time to like go hard or like because it's
like as I'm climax and there's a pier where like
I just want you to go, don't stop.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Some of them stop.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Consistent, slow down, trying to switch you like now you
just messed it up.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And another thing that's really fun to do on top,
like you know, you could put like all kinds of
stuff because girl, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
So another thing is that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Like while you're on top, you could also like put
one leg up higher than the other, like up by
his show.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And then what do you do with the other leg?
Just keep it where you're at.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
Yeah, So that's like almost like a Frankie linean split.
I've got a half a split.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Don't you want to be kind of flexible for that?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Or jump in the hurdle?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You know, maybe I can't try.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Girl, I teach you.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That you never tried that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I don't think you.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Know what I like doing.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
I like actually squatting on it, yeahcause they.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Acquire some strong Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I love the squat So like I like squatting on it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That's what I'm saying all the time. You're doing something too,
you know. Now, what about a guy. Let's just say
you're with a guy in his rhythm isn't right? How
can you get him the lock and low?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Tell us about that?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
With the lock the lock and load. I'm giving all
it's fine. I can know the names.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
It's when you take control basically, and you counted his rhythm.
It's a move, okay, so you got to counter in
his rhythm. You basically push him down so he doesn't move.
You thrust him in where you want to be thrusted.
So one hand is here, one hand is here.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Okay, one hand is here.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Lock and load, lock and load.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
As you're gonna have to show me a vidual just
got lost.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I got you the lock and load.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So part of these classes and d writing classes, right
is it? Reverse cowgirl is part of the instructions to
yes man, which one.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Do you like better?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
It depends on the person.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So there's only one that I show in class, and
it's because the classes for everybody. But for example, the
person that I'm with has a curve, so the way
that I got to turn isn't the same way that
you would curve.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
So that curve work. That curve. It's called the couchie curve.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It called you got to be all the way to
the loft.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Where you're going.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
But yeah, we do that one there. But my favorite
move is the lock and load.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
It is because it's simple and it's effective, super simple,
super effective.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
They love the lock and little okay, and then you
know what's good about like reverse cowgirls, or even when
you're on tap, like playing with the balls. That's a
good thing to do while you're on top. Also, yeah,
reverse way, you got to reach I don't think I've
reached around. I haven't tried around and ranch it off.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's not here. I've done it when I'm the other way.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
So I got to reach around.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yes, that that requires some stretching. Also.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, one of the things that we talk about is
while you're in a froggy position, different hand positions will change.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
The visual, will change the feeling.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And it's something simple as like putting a hand right here,
putting the hand here, put in the hand here, putting
your hands here, putting one hand here.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
So yeah, we talked about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
See, and I always think the first time you have
sex with somebody is good to be on to get
on tap.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You don't why because it's an expectation. Okay, yeah they
do get you know, is this the dick rotten girl?
I want you on top.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Like I'm now, I'm not doing you want me to
show out? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, that is true. And when a guy messed with
it before.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
I did that the first time, and it's it was
just like just every time he wanted me to do
that every time, Oh my god, And for me it
was it was y'all.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Do y'all want to hear my heart?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
See y'all making it sound bad.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, it's fine, but I just don't. I don't want
to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
So I'm not going to say which X, But I
have an ex who every single time we had sex,
except twice, I wrote him until he came.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That's along. That's a lot.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
Every single time he came. Every single time, our sex
was the same every single time except twice. I can
remember the two times that it was different. You were like,
once was on the couch, once was in the bed.
But those were the only two times where he kind
of like you know, got on top and from the
back and switch positions. Other than that, it was very
cookie cutter, jump on the deck, ride it he come,
(16:06):
that's it.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
He came fast sometimes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But I think personality wise, do you think it's like
more dominating women that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Like to be on top to kind of like that control.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to
say that I feel like it's I feel like it's
like some guys just pull you on top. He might
not even feel like it, like some girls are like
I don't even feel like going up there, but he'd
be pulling me up here, and I don't know what
I'm doing. So I don't think it's it's it's a
domination thing because a lot of women don't have their characteristic.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Because I remember my ex boyfriend told me that he
didn't normally like for girls to be on top during
sex until you Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I actually experienced he never came that way before. I
don't know why.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, some guys. I feel like some guys don't need
to go to her class.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Some guys don't like that at all, you know, until
like it's you know, just like we don't like certain
things until it's done right.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah, I've experience it's where like they'll stop me because
they're about to come too soon while I'm on top,
so they'll just like switch because they don't want to
come right away.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Like that's my experience when it comes to that.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
But I like writing like for me, Like I said
in that last episode, I was on when I was sixteen,
and you know, I was having sex. I didn't know
that you could come through intercourse. I thought it was
only my head and on top. That's the only way
I thought. So that's why that was always for.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Me to go to.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Even now, like when I'm having sex and if I
feel like he's having a hard time actually making me
climx through throughout intercourse, I'm like, let me get on top,
come on, take over, and like turn around, let me
do something.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Some girls say the first time they have antal, the
best way for them to do it is on top.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
No, that's a definitely, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
One time only because only because you can control and
control it.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Nah, they say on your back.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, they say, I haven't done it at all, So
I can't even speak.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But I just heard that. I heard that it's better
because that way, he can't ram it in you like
you can if you're ramming it in your ass. He
is very disrespectful and problem I feel like, okay, because.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Ain't some people feel like sex could be just one time.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
I was one time I was having like a a
very explosive night, let's call it that, and it was
in my butt and then we flipped over and somehow
I got on top and I was riding it and
then I spun around and it was like an amazing situation.
And then afterwards he was like, ain't nobody ever did
that game?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Like for what?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
But yeah, that was you know how sometimes we just
had those nights.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This might be the advanced class that sounds like All
Star riding.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, that's my class. An that's trying to cut the balls.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
Around like customized classes, personal like privates or their levels.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
So as of right now, for the riding classes, just
ritting for rookies.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Starting in July, I do want to.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Introduce the All Star Riders class, okay and yeah, and
that would be the more advanced class because what I
find is that most people aren't all stars, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Most people are donkeies or rookies, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So a lot of times, like if I'll post like
a very simple basic move, people are like, everybody can
do that, and I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They can? They really can?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
They really?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
The first time I saw you that a viral post
of yours on Instagram, I was in the comments and
it was so many people that were like what this
is and I'm like, no, ma'am, Like there are people
who are inexperience. There are people who just don't know
a lot. Yeah, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I typically yeel between about sixty to over one hundred
girls per class, right, and maybe ten percent of there
for like a girl's like everybody else is there for
whatever taking notes?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
People have their no pads.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I had a girl the other day with her no pad,
like really like class, like, Tony, do you have an
e book?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Do you have it?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Where can I get the notes? And I'm like, I
need to work on it?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So that's how to get on that. So are there
every guys in the class too?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I've had I've had two guys come once in Atlanta
and then I had one guy had to kick out.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Why he was just he was there for the wrong reason.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He brought a blow up though. He was trying to
get me to teach the blow up doll how to
ride him.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I switched.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I was in San Antonio.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Oh yeah, that man had a mental and.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
What I found out later on it he was a YouTuber,
you know what I mean. He was trying to make
some show.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So the guy in Atlanta, he was homosex.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, and that wasn't That's not about.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
That was fine. I was cool with it. Yeah, you
do you have an age restriction for your classes?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Nope, I had, Well, you gotta be eighteen, of course,
you gotta be eighteen. The oldest lady that had was ninety.
I don't know how she found out about writing for rookies, but.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
She came and she needs it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Still working baby, and she wanted to come for her birthday.
Her her kids literallyranids old.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Wait was she like physically what she What they told
me when she came in is that she didn't. They
did not want me to know how old she was,
but they told me, you know what I mean, she
did not look like she was ninety. You could tell
that she was still active in some way. But of
course she couldn't do everything. But she was just like,
let me do my thing.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
I'm not mad at.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Before, I'm trying to feel the toes when I'm ninety,
she was, Okay, so now I'm picturing the tippy toes
that you just said, right, So standing up all the way.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
So basically on your feet like how you would flat foot,
but raise up on the balls of them.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Okay, yeah, and like in your heels. I feel like
I could in your heels, I said, like you in here.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now here's another thing that I said to this woman
that told me that she was really self conscious about
being on top, is that maybe like the first few
times you do it, do it in the dark.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I'm a lights on girl.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But until you get comfortable, you know what I'm saying.
I just feel like, if you're not that comfortable with
it and you're self conscious, then you start off that
way and then you'll be like more confident to be
able to do it with the light time.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I feel like honestly, most people after the class say
that they are so confident, like I don't know if
they go home with the lights on the lights off,
but they're like, like the dms I get. I had
one DM. It was kind of bizarre. The other day,
it was a lady who told me that she came
to the class she never got on top before, and
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again they tell me all their business. She found out
before her and her husband got married that he has
sent another woman a message and said before.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I get married, I want you to ride me to
the wheels go.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Off or something like that, and that crushed her, you
know what I mean? That crushed her because she never
got on tip before. And if she came to class,
she still married them, that's fine. It was before they
got married and she said she came to the class
and now they're happy.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's bad, that's great.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
I woulder if he still got that person.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You know what she said?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
She said, he didn't, She said, I don't know, don't asked,
never know. There's a stigma with with women being on
tap or writing like, do you think there's a stigma
with that? Or you like, why do you think that
is something that is so scary or something that even
like that we need to have because we don't have
a class on on being on bottom?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
You know what I'm saying, you don't have a class
on being on bottom. I think that I guess, I
guess it could be.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I guess it is for some women that people don't
want to get on top and they they're like, I
don't want to do it if you don't feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
It right, because it does require work. It's definitely word
you get a Charlie horse.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
We talk about that too.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You we cover everything what do you do if you
get it? So we just talk about stretching and how
important it is. You don't want to be some water
bananas all that.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Get that potassium.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Okay, So statistics wise for a woman to squirt, is
that like the most squirtable position.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I'm not gonna say that. Okay, I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
And the only reason I'm not gonna say that is
because I actually did some like certifications and like sex
therapy and stuff like that, so.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
We can talk about all that. But there's something called
the skiing gland. I don't know how much y'all know
about squirting in real life, the skin gland.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
I mean, I never heard of that, but I definitely
know about squirting.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
It really, Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I've never on top though, Oh yes I did once,
but I didn't know that.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
It's not that was the one time that I skirted
that I didn't know I squirt it, Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
But there's something in a woman's body called the skiing gland,
and that's what controls actually squirting. But again that's a
whole different thing. But yeah, it's not it's not necessarily
a position. It's just your body tolerance. So like if
you don't squirre it on top, you're probably like you
probably squirt in a certain way a certain time. It's
kind of like how you're a guy stroke number, you
know what I mean, like some guys, you know if
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they do it like just stay about the common So
women have something that they have and everybody called the
skin land that controls scoring.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is it a fact though, that women that position is
an easier position for women to come in.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I'm not going to say that either, but some people
say that, yeah, some people.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
For me, I'm not going to say that because for
me it's different.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, so you more on top, you come more on top?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I think it's easier.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
What about you? Are you more?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Because they say, like the position, I mean, I've heard that.
I don't know how to it is, but I've heard
that the position of like the stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's why what about you?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
What's no missionary? Me too?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Missionary? That's the best orgasm for me, missiary?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
What about you?
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Me?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I on top?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But I've learned to close?
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Would be.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Dog style?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
No, what is it?
Speaker 9 (25:48):
I know the name of it when you're laying flat
on your stomach and doge style like all the way
I say it all the time.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
But that position and what about you?
Speaker 10 (25:58):
Second dick, that's you come from that from you every time,
not every time, but I've done it.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I've done it, not every time, but every time.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Is that only with your manner? Was it always like that?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
It's with the man? Like you know what I mean? Yeah,
Like that's my ship because that's.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Got to be like love.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I'm trying to put it together, man like.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
It's so lis it's hard to explain because when I
did it, I was I actually came, y'all know, no filter.
I actually came one time eating ass a dude.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Or girls a guy.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
I never eat a girl's ass before, only put She's like,
how dare you?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
It's not the same.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's not the same.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Okay, but you know.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
As ass, but a man eating a man's ass is
a whole different life than I feel like it's a harrier, but.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's got to be.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Have you eaten a hairy ass?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I have had?
Speaker 9 (27:02):
I have? And and then I made her manscape because
I was like, listen, we can't keep doing it. We
went to CBS and got some clippers, and I got
to town. Got that thing right, been right ever since?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I know that's right?
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
All right, So let's plan this because I feel like,
we need to do a cliss service service writing class.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Yeah, let's do it here in New York.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yes, you know, I was just here in New York
to I taught this weekend in New York.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
I was, well, I was here Friday night.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I taught in Boston Saturday, and then I taught bick
in New York Friday, I mean Saturday night.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Again.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
This might have to be like a little special thing
that we do though for our listeners. Maybe we can
get a sponsor.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, make the whole thing, y'all should y'all would love it.
It would be fun.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I feel like, okay, because I'm down to learn some
new tricks because I really like that position. I want
to really perfect it as much as I can. And
are there other positions that you teach too? Or is
this really the main Like it's all rotten nine rottens.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh right, nine. I like that some options I even
know they could be not I'm like, I love it.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
We go through nine and different variations of each one,
and then.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I feel like somebody needs to start the man thrust
Thrust class.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You called it something.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Bagshot for beginners beginnings.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Anybody climates during one of your classes.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Not that I know, but let me tell you not
that I use the humble pillows when I was little child,
and listen I did, do you do key goles and
everything too?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, okay, I'm doing them right now?
Speaker 6 (28:44):
You can.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No one will know, you know, we talk about all
that in class to see.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I like like destigmatizing all of these things because I
feel like it is really hard for women to talk
about that sometimes, especially why I think their lips are
versus is important, you know, because I've heard women say
that they've learned a lot just from this class and
also been like, okay, so now I feel like they
can learn more about dick writing by following you and
maybe learn about you from here if they haven't already
(29:12):
followed you. Yes, and then we're gonna do our class.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Hey, I'm with it. I'm so with.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It all right, Well, Tony Williams, thank you so much?
And where can people find you and follow you on
social media?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
My Instagram is Fantasy Fitness MD, and you guys can
follow me there.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I think, did y'all want to bust a move or something?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Yeah? Part two up next? Sorry, I'm gonna be the student.
I feel like we walk do.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I'm gonna go practice, all right, come on, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, thank you so much for coming through Tony Williams again.
Make sure you follow her writing for Rookies founder. All right,
it's lip service.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Thank you,
What us it is liftserver, Simon Angela yee, I'm Gigi McGuire.
Speaker 2 (00:05):
I'm Jazzmine Brand, I'm Laura Mora.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
And I'm Tony william Now if y'all don't know who
Tony Williams is, she's very valuable, okay, for everybody, men
and women, because you actually teach women how to ride
riding for rookies, okay. And as in writing, we mean
writing that dick.
Speaker 3 (00:31):
All right.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
So, and this is something that actually somebody had asked
me this as an asked you question. She was saying
that she was really self conscious about getting on top,
and you know, she didn't know the right way to
do it. But she also was self conscious about like
her bobby and her body and how she looks. And
I'm sure a lot of women have come to you
with those issues. What do you tell them?
Speaker 3 (00:50):
So?
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I tell them a lot of times women will come
to me for different like reasons. One girl came to
me and she had lost like a hundred or something pounds,
so because of that, she never got on top before.
She was like, Tony, I've never got on top because I.
Speaker 5 (01:05):
Used to be big.
Speaker 4 (01:06):
Now I lost some weight. I'm ready to show out.
I'm ready to be outside, I'm ready to be on top,
but everywhere whatever. And we just had a conversation and
I was like, just just just do it.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
You know.
Speaker 4 (01:17):
And a lot of times they'll come to me after
class and they'll say that now I feel better. I
didn't have the confidence before. So it's usually after the
class they'll come up to me and we'll talk for
like thirty minutes. I give like about thirty minutes after
each class, and everybody will come up and tell me
that story they lost weight.
Speaker 5 (01:34):
I had a lady recently. She was fifty seven.
Speaker 4 (01:37):
She has not had sex and seven years because she
was going through cancer. I guess the treatments and stuff
like that. Okay, and now she got her thirty three
year old man.
Speaker 5 (01:46):
Yes, man, she's ready to go homeboys.
Speaker 4 (01:50):
So but you hear all types of stuff women being overweight,
just some women that have never done it ever in life.
Speaker 3 (01:55):
Yeah, some women are n't comfortable. They never have been
on top.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
How did you become ex? How did you master all?
Speaker 6 (02:01):
Right?
Speaker 5 (02:02):
So there's there's a story. I'm not gonna tell the
whole story.
Speaker 7 (02:06):
Now.
Speaker 4 (02:06):
Basically, I've had a best friend and she has come
to me for all of her personal like sexual like
I guess education, okay, And in doing that, after having
a couple of sessions with me, she got engaged.
Speaker 5 (02:20):
She got engaged.
Speaker 2 (02:21):
So you're like, oh, I have a formula that's working.
Speaker 3 (02:23):
Yeah, it works.
Speaker 4 (02:24):
And then I taught the class in Baltimore.
Speaker 5 (02:26):
It sold out. I taught it again in Baltimore.
Speaker 4 (02:28):
It sold out. I taught it again in Baltimore, it
sold out. And then I went to d C DC
sold out, Philly sold out. And then it just started spreading.
And then you're getting feedback and then the women are like,
this is going on, this is working, Tony, what do
you The husband's here, Tony, I heard about this class
I'm sending my wife.
Speaker 6 (02:46):
I love it.
Speaker 4 (02:47):
And then when I found out that if people want
to hump on pillows and people are I'm getting good feedback, I'm.
Speaker 5 (02:53):
Like, all right, let's do it. And then it went worldwide.
Speaker 3 (02:56):
I love that.
Speaker 1 (02:56):
That's the entrepreneural mindset right there, and it seems like
the thing you enjoy doing.
Speaker 5 (03:01):
I love it. I love it.
Speaker 2 (03:02):
Is that your favorite position? What's your favorite position?
Speaker 4 (03:04):
I'm sorry, I will say yeah. I will say yeah,
because you have control.
Speaker 3 (03:08):
Yeah, I actually really like that position too.
Speaker 1 (03:10):
You know, I've always said that's the easiest way for
me to have an orgasm.
Speaker 8 (03:13):
Yeah, a lot of women feel I'd like it better.
I get have an orgasm better on my back, But
I like being on top. But I like being flat
on top, like laying flat on top of it, like
that as opposed to the finisher.
Speaker 5 (03:24):
The finisher, yes, and.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
I like and I like handle to.
Speaker 1 (03:28):
I like reverse Cowgirls for him, but for me, I
like it.
Speaker 3 (03:32):
I like it o.
Speaker 1 (03:33):
I like like being on top. And then I also
feel like it's like a workout.
Speaker 6 (03:36):
It is. It is.
Speaker 3 (03:39):
I haven't been to the gym. Let me go, get on.
Speaker 7 (03:41):
Top, put my hands up and act like, you know,
like give them and play with them and stuff.
Speaker 5 (03:47):
In the class.
Speaker 4 (03:48):
Actually, typically the girls burn between five hundred to seven
hundred calories. I put that calorie counter one and at
the end I'll have them come tell me what they got,
and it's usually between at least five hundred to seven hundred.
Speaker 1 (04:00):
And the classic's like fun. I was looking at your
Instagram page. We have a good time and you can
see the women in there and it's like a real
like squats.
Speaker 8 (04:09):
How do you make the women feel comfortable to do
something like this in front of, you know, strangers.
Speaker 6 (04:15):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:16):
I think it's a trust thing. One of my assistants
says that I actually protect the women and I didn't
realize it. Like one time I did a class in
Atlanta and it was a small like a window like that,
but the security was out there and just for me,
I said, can you put something up on the blinds?
Speaker 5 (04:34):
And I wasn't even thinking about like protecting the women.
Speaker 4 (04:37):
It was in a sense where it was like, you know,
I just want them to feel like they don't have
people looking at them, even though it's just a security guard.
Speaker 5 (04:43):
But they were like, you know, Tony, you protect us.
You know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (04:46):
It feels good, it feels safe. I think I have
good charisma. I think I'm pretty personable, and I come in.
Speaker 5 (04:54):
With I guess good energy, and a woman loved.
Speaker 1 (04:56):
It, and I'm sure women come with their friends too. Yeah,
like that's a fun thing that you come together with
your homegirls, Like, come.
Speaker 3 (05:02):
On, girl, let's go. That's a great bachelor ret.
Speaker 7 (05:05):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (05:06):
It is party idea too.
Speaker 2 (05:08):
Because remember when everybody was doing the pole classes. I
feel like this is.
Speaker 9 (05:11):
The new way that I was when I had my
post studio in Atlanta, my biggest money maker was my
party artist Whole Parties for bas the Red Birthday, Girls
Night Out Divorce.
Speaker 6 (05:20):
That was like what I made the book of my
money in the business.
Speaker 3 (05:23):
I feel like we need a lip service dick writing class.
Speaker 4 (05:25):
I feel like y'all do took so much all right, Yeah,
I feel like I feel like y'all do a really
fun collaboration.
Speaker 8 (05:31):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (05:31):
I think y'all should. And I'm pretty sure you'll be
like told me I was lit.
Speaker 1 (05:35):
Now you also now correct me if you're if I'm wrong,
But you have are you married or you have a partner.
Speaker 5 (05:41):
I have a partner.
Speaker 1 (05:42):
He does real estate, yes, okay, uh huh okay, So
now how do you implement this.
Speaker 6 (05:49):
At home?
Speaker 4 (05:51):
Often, so one of the things that's Q I don't
know if you've seen the videos with him actually in
the video, but sometimes he travels with me, and the
women don't always know or expect me to bring him up.
But I'll say, oh, they'll ask, well, Tony, how does
it look if you're doing it on a person, because
of course on a pillow, they think it's a little different.
So I say, babe, come on, and come on, lay down.
(06:13):
He's like, God, fine, and then it's just you know,
it's nothing for him at this point because he's just
like playing on the floor. But yeah, so I'll just
demonstrate on him and.
Speaker 5 (06:26):
And then the ladies are.
Speaker 3 (06:27):
Like, oh wow, I get it now.
Speaker 1 (06:29):
Now their tips for a guy has a really small dick,
because you know, you can't go up high.
Speaker 4 (06:33):
Oh yes, that's one of the first things we talk about.
That's that's one of the first things. That's I think
I cover everything, honestly, tell us what to do.
Speaker 3 (06:44):
If a guy's penis.
Speaker 5 (06:45):
Is not so you gotta stay you can still do
the same moves. You just stay low to it. We
say call it little dick lane.
Speaker 4 (06:50):
You gotta stay in little dick lane.
Speaker 5 (06:54):
You gotta stay in little dick lane.
Speaker 4 (06:56):
And sometimes you go a little faster on it, okay,
but you just don't come up so high because there's
nothing up there for y'all.
Speaker 1 (07:01):
And then you could break a dick that way if
you come up high and then come up with it
and then you go back down and it could bend.
Speaker 5 (07:06):
Yeah.
Speaker 7 (07:08):
Like I've had an experience where like I love to
ride like and said, that's like the way I come
the fastest, but like his sick was so big, like
I felt it up here, Like what do you do
in that?
Speaker 5 (07:20):
What's the best?
Speaker 3 (07:21):
I just go slow, just take and maybe don't put
it all the way in.
Speaker 7 (07:24):
I laid down like I did that on my stomach,
like because I couldn't like sitting up was just I
tried everything, reverse cyled girl, all of that.
Speaker 5 (07:34):
And I just use the elbow trick.
Speaker 6 (07:36):
What's the elbow trick?
Speaker 4 (07:37):
I'll show you will get the pillows elbow?
Speaker 9 (07:42):
So what is the number one like question or the
thing that the ladies bring to you?
Speaker 4 (07:47):
And typically the biggest complaint is weight for them feeling
like they can't get low enough, and that usually can
be thwarted by stretching.
Speaker 8 (07:58):
It's really simple, you mean, what does what does it
mean when you can't get low enough?
Speaker 6 (08:02):
What do you mean?
Speaker 4 (08:03):
Like so again, if you can't get close to the deck,
like it was.
Speaker 6 (08:07):
Too big, if you're not like flexible to.
Speaker 10 (08:12):
Sit on it.
Speaker 4 (08:12):
You know what I mean, Because it can become uncomfortable
if you can't get low enough and open up your
hip area, your growing area.
Speaker 2 (08:19):
So some women can't open their open their legs, what
do you mean?
Speaker 7 (08:22):
Yeah, they don't stretch out much, so you know you're
growing right here like her and be painful.
Speaker 6 (08:28):
Yeah, it becomes painful right here.
Speaker 9 (08:30):
So my next question would be, what is the thing
that in this journey that has surprised you the most
dealing with these women.
Speaker 5 (08:40):
I don't think anything surprises really.
Speaker 4 (08:42):
I don't think so, because I feel like if I'm surprised,
then it's like I'm not expecting something. And with this
sort of business, you gotta be like, I'm expecting all
types of while shit.
Speaker 9 (08:53):
So when I taught pole classes, my number one thing
that surprises me the most in my students was the
lack of confidence. I did not know that there were
so many women who weren't like And one of my
like taglines was confidence is sexy and I will always
try to bring that sexy out of them to build confidence.
And that's the reason why, because so many women were
just like not confident within themselves, within their sex appeal.
(09:16):
And you know that kind of showed a lot during
the classes.
Speaker 4 (09:20):
Yeah, I would agree, but I feel like I already
know that you know what I mean.
Speaker 5 (09:25):
I feel like I know because see you court me
off guard.
Speaker 4 (09:27):
Yeah, like people say it all the time. They come
to me because you know I do own the Post studios.
You're right, Oh yeah, so in Baltimore, I'm like a
fitness studio back home. But anyway, so a lot of
times women who come and after divorce, after a breakup
and after somebody made them feel bad, and they're like,
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I want to feel sexy again. To me, I want
to feel good. I need something to make me feel good.
I want to either lose some weight or because he made.
Speaker 5 (09:57):
Me feel like shit. So that was my turn, and
I'm like, come on, come on.
Speaker 1 (10:01):
Many some classes too. How can we help them get
some classes they need to us? Like we're doing all
this ship, were working out, doing stretches and class.
Speaker 4 (10:11):
And they taking honey pegs right, taking honey right.
Speaker 5 (10:17):
That's what they're doing.
Speaker 1 (10:18):
Can we figure out a way to like get these
guys in some classes like some.
Speaker 5 (10:22):
So I do do some couples classes.
Speaker 3 (10:24):
There we go.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
I've done some couples classes and they actually work out
really well. Yes, but typically it's still the woman doing
most of the work or whatever. But I know, but
like I even did this video. I don't know if
you're s the one when I did the headstand. Yeah,
we just watched it, and a lot of the commentary.
Speaker 5 (10:46):
Was like why she gotta do everything?
Speaker 3 (10:47):
Why? Why?
Speaker 6 (10:48):
Why?
Speaker 5 (10:48):
Why he not upside down doing the handstand?
Speaker 6 (10:50):
And I was like, that was.
Speaker 1 (10:51):
Cute because just because we're on top, man, y'all got
a responsibility too as well.
Speaker 3 (10:55):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (10:56):
You can't just lay there while we're on top doing
all this work. Like y'all got to, like, you know,
maybe we need to give the guy some like thrust
up classes and.
Speaker 3 (11:04):
Something I don't going to be.
Speaker 4 (11:06):
As response to that thrust up, somebody said that we
should call her back shots for beginners, but.
Speaker 5 (11:15):
Beginners they do because.
Speaker 8 (11:17):
I was telling you early to one of my friends
was complaining about the guy she messed with. His stroke
is not hard enough. It's like that like a timid stroke.
She was like, she was like, it's just too timid.
Speaker 6 (11:28):
Like she needs to start talking to him.
Speaker 2 (11:29):
She's tried.
Speaker 7 (11:30):
Men definitely be class and also to know when it's
the time to like go hard or like because it's
like as I'm climax and there's a pier where like
I just want you to go, don't stop.
Speaker 5 (11:39):
Some of them stop.
Speaker 3 (11:40):
Consistent, slow down, trying to switch you like now you
just messed it up.
Speaker 7 (11:45):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (11:46):
And another thing that's really fun to do on top,
like you know, you could put like all kinds of
stuff because girl, all right.
Speaker 3 (11:52):
So another thing is that.
Speaker 1 (11:53):
Like while you're on top, you could also like put
one leg up higher than the other, like up by
his show.
Speaker 2 (12:02):
And then what do you do with the other leg?
Just keep it where you're at.
Speaker 9 (12:05):
Yeah, So that's like almost like a Frankie linean split.
I've got a half a split.
Speaker 2 (12:10):
Don't you want to be kind of flexible for that?
Speaker 6 (12:12):
Or jump in the hurdle?
Speaker 3 (12:16):
You know, maybe I can't try.
Speaker 6 (12:22):
Girl, I teach you.
Speaker 3 (12:24):
That you never tried that.
Speaker 2 (12:27):
I don't think you.
Speaker 6 (12:28):
Know what I like doing.
Speaker 7 (12:28):
I like actually squatting on it, yeahcause they.
Speaker 2 (12:32):
Acquire some strong Yeah.
Speaker 6 (12:34):
I love the squat So like I like squatting on it.
Speaker 1 (12:37):
That's what I'm saying all the time. You're doing something too,
you know. Now, what about a guy. Let's just say
you're with a guy in his rhythm isn't right? How
can you get him the lock and low?
Speaker 3 (12:49):
Tell us about that?
Speaker 5 (12:51):
With the lock the lock and load. I'm giving all
it's fine. I can know the names.
Speaker 4 (12:57):
It's when you take control basically, and you counted his rhythm.
It's a move, okay, so you got to counter in
his rhythm. You basically push him down so he doesn't move.
You thrust him in where you want to be thrusted.
So one hand is here, one hand is here.
Speaker 6 (13:11):
Okay, one hand is here.
Speaker 5 (13:13):
Lock and load, lock and load.
Speaker 6 (13:15):
As you're gonna have to show me a vidual just
got lost.
Speaker 5 (13:19):
I got you the lock and load.
Speaker 1 (13:21):
So part of these classes and d writing classes, right
is it? Reverse cowgirl is part of the instructions to
yes man, which one.
Speaker 3 (13:28):
Do you like better?
Speaker 5 (13:29):
It depends on the person.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
So there's only one that I show in class, and
it's because the classes for everybody. But for example, the
person that I'm with has a curve, so the way
that I got to turn isn't the same way that
you would curve.
Speaker 5 (13:44):
So that curve work. That curve. It's called the couchie curve.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
It called you got to be all the way to
the loft.
Speaker 6 (13:52):
Where you're going.
Speaker 4 (13:55):
But yeah, we do that one there. But my favorite
move is the lock and load.
Speaker 3 (13:59):
Okay.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
It is because it's simple and it's effective, super simple,
super effective.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
They love the lock and little okay, and then you
know what's good about like reverse cowgirls, or even when
you're on tap, like playing with the balls. That's a
good thing to do while you're on top. Also, yeah,
reverse way, you got to reach I don't think I've
reached around. I haven't tried around and ranch it off.
Speaker 2 (14:24):
It's not here. I've done it when I'm the other way.
Speaker 6 (14:26):
So I got to reach around.
Speaker 3 (14:28):
Yes, that that requires some stretching. Also.
Speaker 4 (14:33):
Yeah, one of the things that we talk about is
while you're in a froggy position, different hand positions will change.
Speaker 5 (14:40):
The visual, will change the feeling.
Speaker 4 (14:42):
And it's something simple as like putting a hand right here,
putting the hand here, put in the hand here, putting
your hands here, putting one hand here.
Speaker 5 (14:49):
So yeah, we talked about this stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:50):
See, and I always think the first time you have
sex with somebody is good to be on to get
on tap.
Speaker 5 (14:55):
I don't.
Speaker 4 (14:56):
You don't why because it's an expectation. Okay, yeah they
do get you know, is this the dick rotten girl?
I want you on top.
Speaker 5 (15:07):
Like I'm now, I'm not doing you want me to
show out? I'm not sure.
Speaker 2 (15:10):
No, that is true. And when a guy messed with
it before.
Speaker 8 (15:13):
I did that the first time, and it's it was
just like just every time he wanted me to do
that every time, Oh my god, And for me it
was it was y'all.
Speaker 6 (15:21):
Do y'all want to hear my heart?
Speaker 5 (15:23):
Yes?
Speaker 3 (15:24):
See y'all making it sound bad.
Speaker 2 (15:25):
No, it's fine, but I just don't. I don't want
to do that.
Speaker 3 (15:27):
Go ahead, go ahead.
Speaker 9 (15:28):
So I'm not going to say which X, But I
have an ex who every single time we had sex,
except twice, I wrote him until he came.
Speaker 3 (15:42):
That's along. That's a lot.
Speaker 9 (15:43):
Every single time he came. Every single time, our sex
was the same every single time except twice. I can
remember the two times that it was different. You were like,
once was on the couch, once was in the bed.
But those were the only two times where he kind
of like you know, got on top and from the
back and switch positions. Other than that, it was very
cookie cutter, jump on the deck, ride it he come,
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that's it.
Speaker 6 (16:07):
He came fast sometimes.
Speaker 1 (16:10):
But I think personality wise, do you think it's like
more dominating women that.
Speaker 3 (16:13):
Like to be on top to kind of like that control.
Speaker 4 (16:17):
I'm not going to say that. I'm not going to
say that I feel like it's I feel like it's
like some guys just pull you on top. He might
not even feel like it, like some girls are like
I don't even feel like going up there, but he'd
be pulling me up here, and I don't know what
I'm doing. So I don't think it's it's it's a
domination thing because a lot of women don't have their characteristic.
Speaker 1 (16:34):
Because I remember my ex boyfriend told me that he
didn't normally like for girls to be on top during
sex until you Yeah.
Speaker 3 (16:42):
I actually experienced he never came that way before. I
don't know why.
Speaker 2 (16:48):
Yeah, some guys. I feel like some guys don't need
to go to her class.
Speaker 1 (16:52):
Some guys don't like that at all, you know, until
like it's you know, just like we don't like certain
things until it's done right.
Speaker 7 (16:58):
Yeah, I've experience it's where like they'll stop me because
they're about to come too soon while I'm on top,
so they'll just like switch because they don't want to
come right away.
Speaker 5 (17:07):
Like that's my experience when it comes to that.
Speaker 7 (17:09):
But I like writing like for me, Like I said
in that last episode, I was on when I was sixteen,
and you know, I was having sex. I didn't know
that you could come through intercourse. I thought it was
only my head and on top. That's the only way
I thought. So that's why that was always for.
Speaker 6 (17:24):
Me to go to.
Speaker 7 (17:25):
Even now, like when I'm having sex and if I
feel like he's having a hard time actually making me
climx through throughout intercourse, I'm like, let me get on top,
come on, take over, and like turn around, let me
do something.
Speaker 1 (17:36):
Some girls say the first time they have antal, the
best way for them to do it is on top.
Speaker 6 (17:40):
No, that's a definitely, that's.
Speaker 1 (17:44):
One time only because only because you can control and
control it.
Speaker 6 (17:47):
Nah, they say on your back.
Speaker 3 (17:50):
Yeah, they say, I haven't done it at all, So
I can't even speak.
Speaker 1 (17:54):
But I just heard that. I heard that it's better
because that way, he can't ram it in you like
you can if you're ramming it in your ass. He
is very disrespectful and problem I feel like, okay, because.
Speaker 3 (18:02):
Ain't some people feel like sex could be just one time.
Speaker 9 (18:05):
I was one time I was having like a a
very explosive night, let's call it that, and it was
in my butt and then we flipped over and somehow
I got on top and I was riding it and
then I spun around and it was like an amazing situation.
And then afterwards he was like, ain't nobody ever did
that game?
Speaker 3 (18:25):
Like for what?
Speaker 6 (18:26):
But yeah, that was you know how sometimes we just
had those nights.
Speaker 1 (18:29):
This might be the advanced class that sounds like All
Star riding.
Speaker 3 (18:35):
Yeah, that's my class. An that's trying to cut the balls.
Speaker 9 (18:44):
Around like customized classes, personal like privates or their levels.
Speaker 4 (18:51):
So as of right now, for the riding classes, just
ritting for rookies.
Speaker 5 (18:55):
Starting in July, I do want to.
Speaker 4 (18:57):
Introduce the All Star Riders class, okay and yeah, and
that would be the more advanced class because what I
find is that most people aren't all stars, you know
what I mean.
Speaker 5 (19:07):
Most people are donkeies or rookies, you know what I mean.
Speaker 4 (19:11):
So a lot of times, like if I'll post like
a very simple basic move, people are like, everybody can
do that, and I'm like, what the fuck?
Speaker 6 (19:18):
They can? They really can?
Speaker 3 (19:20):
They really?
Speaker 9 (19:21):
The first time I saw you that a viral post
of yours on Instagram, I was in the comments and
it was so many people that were like what this
is and I'm like, no, ma'am, Like there are people
who are inexperience. There are people who just don't know
a lot. Yeah, you'd be surprised.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
I typically yeel between about sixty to over one hundred
girls per class, right, and maybe ten percent of there
for like a girl's like everybody else is there for
whatever taking notes?
Speaker 5 (19:52):
People have their no pads.
Speaker 4 (19:54):
I had a girl the other day with her no pad,
like really like class, like, Tony, do you have an
e book?
Speaker 3 (20:01):
Do you have it?
Speaker 5 (20:01):
Where can I get the notes? And I'm like, I
need to work on it?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
So that's how to get on that. So are there
every guys in the class too?
Speaker 4 (20:07):
I've had I've had two guys come once in Atlanta
and then I had one guy had to kick out.
Speaker 6 (20:13):
Why he was just he was there for the wrong reason.
Speaker 4 (20:17):
He brought a blow up though. He was trying to
get me to teach the blow up doll how to
ride him.
Speaker 6 (20:23):
I switched.
Speaker 5 (20:25):
I was in San Antonio.
Speaker 6 (20:27):
Oh yeah, that man had a mental and.
Speaker 4 (20:32):
What I found out later on it he was a YouTuber,
you know what I mean. He was trying to make
some show.
Speaker 6 (20:38):
So the guy in Atlanta, he was homosex.
Speaker 3 (20:41):
Yeah, and that wasn't That's not about.
Speaker 6 (20:43):
That was fine. I was cool with it. Yeah, you
do you have an age restriction for your classes?
Speaker 4 (20:47):
Nope, I had, Well, you gotta be eighteen, of course,
you gotta be eighteen. The oldest lady that had was ninety.
I don't know how she found out about writing for rookies, but.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
She came and she needs it.
Speaker 1 (20:56):
Still working baby, and she wanted to come for her birthday.
Her her kids literallyranids old.
Speaker 4 (21:03):
Wait was she like physically what she What they told
me when she came in is that she didn't. They
did not want me to know how old she was,
but they told me, you know what I mean, she
did not look like she was ninety. You could tell
that she was still active in some way. But of
course she couldn't do everything. But she was just like,
let me do my thing.
Speaker 7 (21:22):
I'm not mad at.
Speaker 6 (21:28):
You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1 (21:28):
Before, I'm trying to feel the toes when I'm ninety,
she was, Okay, so now I'm picturing the tippy toes
that you just said, right, So standing up all the way.
Speaker 6 (21:42):
So basically on your feet like how you would flat foot,
but raise up on the balls of them.
Speaker 1 (21:46):
Okay, yeah, and like in your heels. I feel like
I could in your heels, I said, like you in here.
Speaker 3 (21:51):
Okay.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Now here's another thing that I said to this woman
that told me that she was really self conscious about
being on top, is that maybe like the first few
times you do it, do it in the dark.
Speaker 5 (22:01):
I'm a lights on girl.
Speaker 1 (22:02):
But until you get comfortable, you know what I'm saying.
I just feel like, if you're not that comfortable with
it and you're self conscious, then you start off that
way and then you'll be like more confident to be
able to do it with the light time.
Speaker 4 (22:15):
I feel like honestly, most people after the class say
that they are so confident, like I don't know if
they go home with the lights on the lights off,
but they're like, like the dms I get. I had
one DM. It was kind of bizarre. The other day,
it was a lady who told me that she came
to the class she never got on top before, and
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again they tell me all their business. She found out
before her and her husband got married that he has
sent another woman a message and said before.
Speaker 5 (22:46):
I get married, I want you to ride me to
the wheels go.
Speaker 4 (22:49):
Off or something like that, and that crushed her, you
know what I mean? That crushed her because she never
got on tip before. And if she came to class,
she still married them, that's fine. It was before they
got married and she said she came to the class
and now they're happy.
Speaker 3 (23:05):
That's bad, that's great.
Speaker 6 (23:06):
I woulder if he still got that person.
Speaker 3 (23:09):
You know what she said?
Speaker 1 (23:10):
She said, he didn't, She said, I don't know, don't asked,
never know. There's a stigma with with women being on
tap or writing like, do you think there's a stigma
with that? Or you like, why do you think that
is something that is so scary or something that even
like that we need to have because we don't have
a class on on being on bottom?
Speaker 5 (23:32):
You know what I'm saying, you don't have a class
on being on bottom. I think that I guess, I
guess it could be.
Speaker 4 (23:38):
I guess it is for some women that people don't
want to get on top and they they're like, I
don't want to do it if you don't feel comfortable doing.
Speaker 3 (23:46):
It right, because it does require work. It's definitely word
you get a Charlie horse.
Speaker 5 (23:51):
We talk about that too.
Speaker 4 (23:53):
You we cover everything what do you do if you
get it? So we just talk about stretching and how
important it is. You don't want to be some water
bananas all that.
Speaker 6 (24:04):
Get that potassium.
Speaker 1 (24:05):
Okay, So statistics wise for a woman to squirt, is
that like the most squirtable position.
Speaker 5 (24:11):
I'm not gonna say that. Okay, I'm not gonna say that.
Speaker 4 (24:14):
And the only reason I'm not gonna say that is
because I actually did some like certifications and like sex
therapy and stuff like that, so.
Speaker 5 (24:20):
We can talk about all that. But there's something called
the skiing gland. I don't know how much y'all know
about squirting in real life, the skin gland.
Speaker 6 (24:27):
I mean, I never heard of that, but I definitely
know about squirting.
Speaker 5 (24:30):
It really, Okay.
Speaker 6 (24:31):
I've never on top though, Oh yes I did once,
but I didn't know that.
Speaker 9 (24:34):
It's not that was the one time that I skirted
that I didn't know I squirt it, Okay.
Speaker 4 (24:38):
But there's something in a woman's body called the skiing gland,
and that's what controls actually squirting. But again that's a
whole different thing. But yeah, it's not it's not necessarily
a position. It's just your body tolerance. So like if
you don't squirre it on top, you're probably like you
probably squirt in a certain way a certain time. It's
kind of like how you're a guy stroke number, you
know what I mean, like some guys, you know if
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they do it like just stay about the common So
women have something that they have and everybody called the
skin land that controls scoring.
Speaker 1 (25:06):
Is it a fact though, that women that position is
an easier position for women to come in.
Speaker 4 (25:11):
I'm not going to say that either, but some people
say that, yeah, some people.
Speaker 5 (25:15):
For me, I'm not going to say that because for
me it's different.
Speaker 2 (25:17):
Yeah, so you more on top, you come more on top?
Speaker 3 (25:20):
I think it's easier.
Speaker 6 (25:21):
What about you? Are you more?
Speaker 1 (25:22):
Because they say, like the position, I mean, I've heard that.
I don't know how to it is, but I've heard
that the position of like the stuff like that.
Speaker 3 (25:30):
That's why what about you?
Speaker 6 (25:32):
What's no missionary? Me too?
Speaker 2 (25:34):
Missionary? That's the best orgasm for me, missiary?
Speaker 6 (25:37):
What about you?
Speaker 8 (25:38):
Me?
Speaker 5 (25:38):
I on top?
Speaker 3 (25:40):
But I've learned to close?
Speaker 6 (25:43):
Would be.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Dog style?
Speaker 6 (25:47):
No, what is it?
Speaker 9 (25:48):
I know the name of it when you're laying flat
on your stomach and doge style like all the way
I say it all the time.
Speaker 6 (25:55):
But that position and what about you?
Speaker 10 (25:58):
Second dick, that's you come from that from you every time,
not every time, but I've done it.
Speaker 6 (26:10):
I've done it, not every time, but every time.
Speaker 3 (26:12):
Is that only with your manner? Was it always like that?
Speaker 5 (26:15):
It's with the man? Like you know what I mean? Yeah,
Like that's my ship because that's.
Speaker 3 (26:19):
Got to be like love.
Speaker 6 (26:21):
I'm trying to put it together, man like.
Speaker 9 (26:23):
It's so lis it's hard to explain because when I
did it, I was I actually came, y'all know, no filter.
I actually came one time eating ass a dude.
Speaker 6 (26:36):
Or girls a guy.
Speaker 9 (26:37):
I never eat a girl's ass before, only put She's like,
how dare you?
Speaker 6 (26:41):
It's not the same.
Speaker 3 (26:44):
It's not the same.
Speaker 6 (26:45):
Okay, but you know.
Speaker 9 (26:48):
As ass, but a man eating a man's ass is
a whole different life than I feel like it's a harrier, but.
Speaker 3 (26:56):
It's not.
Speaker 2 (26:57):
It's got to be.
Speaker 5 (26:58):
Have you eaten a hairy ass?
Speaker 6 (27:00):
I have had?
Speaker 9 (27:02):
I have? And and then I made her manscape because
I was like, listen, we can't keep doing it. We
went to CBS and got some clippers, and I got
to town. Got that thing right, been right ever since?
Speaker 2 (27:19):
I know that's right?
Speaker 6 (27:21):
Oh my god?
Speaker 1 (27:22):
All right, So let's plan this because I feel like,
we need to do a cliss service service writing class.
Speaker 6 (27:27):
Yeah, let's do it here in New York.
Speaker 4 (27:30):
Yes, you know, I was just here in New York
to I taught this weekend in New York.
Speaker 5 (27:33):
I was, well, I was here Friday night.
Speaker 4 (27:35):
I taught in Boston Saturday, and then I taught bick
in New York Friday, I mean Saturday night.
Speaker 10 (27:39):
Again.
Speaker 1 (27:40):
This might have to be like a little special thing
that we do though for our listeners. Maybe we can
get a sponsor.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
Yeah, make the whole thing, y'all should y'all would love it.
It would be fun.
Speaker 9 (27:48):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (27:48):
I feel like, okay, because I'm down to learn some
new tricks because I really like that position. I want
to really perfect it as much as I can. And
are there other positions that you teach too? Or is
this really the main Like it's all rotten nine rottens.
Speaker 2 (28:03):
Oh right, nine. I like that some options I even
know they could be not I'm like, I love it.
Speaker 5 (28:11):
We go through nine and different variations of each one,
and then.
Speaker 1 (28:14):
I feel like somebody needs to start the man thrust
Thrust class.
Speaker 2 (28:20):
You called it something.
Speaker 5 (28:21):
Bagshot for beginners beginnings.
Speaker 7 (28:24):
Anybody climates during one of your classes.
Speaker 1 (28:26):
Not that I know, but let me tell you not
that I use the humble pillows when I was little child,
and listen I did, do you do key goles and
everything too?
Speaker 3 (28:41):
Yeah, okay, I'm doing them right now?
Speaker 6 (28:44):
You can.
Speaker 5 (28:46):
No one will know, you know, we talk about all
that in class to see.
Speaker 3 (28:50):
I like that.
Speaker 1 (28:51):
I like like destigmatizing all of these things because I
feel like it is really hard for women to talk
about that sometimes, especially why I think their lips are
versus is important, you know, because I've heard women say
that they've learned a lot just from this class and
also been like, okay, so now I feel like they
can learn more about dick writing by following you and
maybe learn about you from here if they haven't already
(29:12):
followed you. Yes, and then we're gonna do our class.
Speaker 5 (29:15):
Hey, I'm with it. I'm so with.
Speaker 3 (29:18):
It all right, Well, Tony Williams, thank you so much?
And where can people find you and follow you on
social media?
Speaker 4 (29:23):
My Instagram is Fantasy Fitness MD, and you guys can
follow me there.
Speaker 3 (29:30):
I think, did y'all want to bust a move or something?
Speaker 6 (29:32):
Yeah? Part two up next? Sorry, I'm gonna be the student.
I feel like we walk do.
Speaker 3 (29:38):
I'm gonna go practice, all right, come on, all right.
Speaker 1 (29:41):
Well, thank you so much for coming through Tony Williams again.
Make sure you follow her writing for Rookies founder. All right,
it's lip service.
Speaker 5 (29:50):
Thank you,
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