Episode 416: GODBODY (Feat. Phor)

Phor joins the ladies of Lip Service this week to promote his latest single 'Freaky Girl.' Major shout out to Phor for being so honest about his sex life and experiences. Phor discussed what got him into pegging/BDSM, his experience with a transwoman, why he drank urine, and much more. Phor even opens up about the conversation he had with his mother when his sex life became public. Enjoy!

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Episode Transcript

Speaker 1 (00:02):
What's up this slift service? I means ye, I'm Gg Maguire,
I'm Jazz and Brand, I'm Laura Rama.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
And it's me for going on.

Speaker 3 (00:11):
It only four four years to get here.

Speaker 1 (00:14):
Yeah, I.

Speaker 2 (00:16):
Think now we had a better time to talk about
some things.

Speaker 1 (00:20):
Yeah, they call him four because we've seen them on
all fours. Okay, no, but honestly, thank you so much
for coming here, because we have followed your whole journey
on black in Chicago. But I know there was life
before that you did music, even before you did this show.

Speaker 4 (00:38):
Absolutely absolutely, yeah, you know the TV thing, uh, for Chicago.
I knew it would be something, you know, putting Chicago
in a different light versus like what we're seeing what's
going on day to day, because a lot of people
that's not in Chicago, they think it's just as bad
as it is, you know what I'm saying, when it's like,
we have a lot of good things that Chicago's like,
great foods, it's great people. You know a lot of

(00:59):
artists and there people are doing their things. So we
was able to shine and show Chicago in a different way.
So it was worth it.

Speaker 2 (01:04):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (01:04):
Chicago is a special place.

Speaker 3 (01:06):
It really is.

Speaker 2 (01:06):
That's how I feel about New York. Though I love
New York, I feel.

Speaker 1 (01:09):
Like Chicago are very I feel like Chicago are very similar.

Speaker 4 (01:14):
No, it is, but I feel like Chicago is like
a dumb down version with New York not dumb down.

Speaker 5 (01:18):
I feel the first time we met him in Chicago,
that panel, Yes, that's a long of the health Department.

Speaker 1 (01:24):
Yeah, that was a while, and you know what they
was getting into for it. They had no idea.

Speaker 2 (01:28):
I think I was quiet back now. I think like
Charmaine and one, I was talking a little more.

Speaker 3 (01:32):
Yeah, you were, you were pretty wide. It was Charmaine
in Van It was yep, absolutely good.

Speaker 1 (01:39):
What is your relationship now with a vand with Ryan?

Speaker 4 (01:44):
Still my brothers Okay, you know what I'm saying. Uh,
everybody's off into doing different things now. Like man, he
lives in Houston, so by me being in Dallas sometimes
he will still drive up to check in and vice versa. Uh,
my brother he's still in Chicago or Ryan or whatever.
So anytime I'm in the city, we always link up
and there, I mean, they coming down doesn't check on.

Speaker 1 (02:00):
Me too, So how hard is it when people don't
get along with each other, and now you got to
be in the middle.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
Oh man. That was most of my they used to use.

Speaker 4 (02:10):
They used to use me as bait, like all right, look, well,
everybody get along with him, so we know we can
have if he put it, if we put uh an
event for him, everybody gonna show just so everybody can
cause chaos, you know what I'm saying. But if it's
like somebody they don't like, they're not gonna they know,
somebody not gonna show up to a Ryan party when
they know Van don't get along with them, you know
I'm saying. But if it's something like somebody who's in

(02:30):
the like a middle, they go out. They all got
a show. So I used to get hit with that
a lot.

Speaker 1 (02:35):
I feel like Van Van said he would like to
reunite with Ryan, right, so they did.

Speaker 2 (02:41):
They did, they did.

Speaker 4 (02:42):
I remember they uh they reunited on TV and then
after TV they did like a real you know, because
on TV, I think one, yeah, because on TV I
think like, well, I know I can speak for Ryan
at least he didn't want to expose certain things of
why he didn't rock with him the way he did,
like you know, because he still cared for him.

Speaker 2 (03:01):
So they had talked as men, you know, I mean
off camera. Okay, they grew from there for show?

Speaker 1 (03:07):
Do you feel like now is the show? Is it
coming back?

Speaker 4 (03:11):
So we're not canceled, right, but we haven't been filming,
you know what I'm saying. But if, if, and when
it does come back, I think it's gonna be better
now because you gotta let life happen a little bit.

Speaker 1 (03:22):
You definitely let life happen a lot of it. So
you guys storyline now before we got to ask some
questions because your motherfucking Twitter page is out of control,
saying I feel like I know you too well right now,
good exaculate.

Speaker 3 (03:37):
I know that you are. I know that you curve
to the left.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
I don't think I should know that curved.

Speaker 1 (03:47):
We know you, period pussy.

Speaker 6 (03:50):
That was gross.

Speaker 1 (03:50):
I'm not gonna lie.

Speaker 6 (03:52):
So y'all, how does it take.

Speaker 3 (03:55):
Get into it?

Speaker 2 (03:57):
Damn? So I'm saying the truth to the truth, the truth. Okay,
So the truth is I didn't eat period pussy.

Speaker 4 (04:02):
Say what happened was so when I was when it
was an old video, right, I happened to just be
going through I got a lot of like archives of stuff.
So I'm going through something, let me let me post this, right.
But when I watched something like damn, like my salava looked.

Speaker 2 (04:14):
A little like pink pink is right, So I was thinking, like, well,
if I put this out, they're gonna say, oh, she's bleeding,
so but getting rid of it, but get ahead of it,
in front of it. Let me put it out as
what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (04:25):
Yeah, but really what happened was like anytime too much
like pressure is on, like my guns, like my gums bleed,
like with my veneers and stuff.

Speaker 3 (04:32):
So that's why it was.

Speaker 2 (04:35):
My it was it was period guns.

Speaker 7 (04:38):
But that man know it was the truth because like
I know even like even like you know a lot
of girls like girl stuff, but it's like I know
some men that have done it, but me personally, it
really was just me.

Speaker 4 (04:50):
Getting on top of it because I knew they wore
it was just like it was just a little bit.
But she was throwing that ass back in my face
on you.

Speaker 1 (05:02):
In your market, and I like when guys do that
to me, what like, yeah, don't don't thrust my getting
going crazy.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
My own rhythm, and yeah.

Speaker 2 (05:14):
For sure, but some girls be liking some girls be
liking the chuck like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (05:17):
Some girls be like, you know, people eating If.

Speaker 2 (05:21):
I did, they probably didn't tell me they was on it.

Speaker 6 (05:23):
Not even you can't tell if you're eating hers.

Speaker 4 (05:27):
I'm saying I didn't. If I'm saying, okay, so you
know what it is. One time it was in the shower,
you know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (05:31):
So it was different. It was in a shower.

Speaker 3 (05:34):
Was like.

Speaker 1 (05:36):
That you know, doesn't count because the shower don't it
just count? I don't know into medical fact.

Speaker 6 (05:43):
It stops it.

Speaker 4 (05:44):
Yeah, But like me personally, like I'm not like really
like a gory type of person. So I like, I
don't even want blood on my dick.

Speaker 2 (05:51):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (05:53):
I've done it, but it's not been it's because of
what she may have wanted, you know what I'm saying.
But like the preference, Yeah, it wasn't my preference. But
like with my partner, like about me being like an
ultimate pleaser, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (06:03):
I try to, Like I try, I try anything one
because you.

Speaker 5 (06:06):
Know, as women during that time of the month, we
had hormones are raging, so we're extra horny and then
we want it, we want it.

Speaker 2 (06:13):
Yeah, so I gave it and I did it.

Speaker 1 (06:18):
All right. So now I feel a little deceived that.

Speaker 5 (06:21):
I was deceived, but I feel better, thank you, because
it was looking.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Very I don't believe anything you did.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
That's the only thing. That's the only that was the
only thing I was cap.

Speaker 1 (06:34):
Let's talk about the pegging.

Speaker 2 (06:35):
Going to see it.

Speaker 1 (06:36):
Yes, this pegging video.

Speaker 6 (06:38):
I thought I saw you.

Speaker 3 (06:39):
I want to see it.

Speaker 1 (06:41):
You said that what I want to say? That was real?

Speaker 2 (06:44):
Yeah? A couple of them.

Speaker 1 (06:45):
Okay, okay, so this is something that you so more
than one occasion.

Speaker 6 (06:49):
But I want to see that.

Speaker 1 (06:51):
He pretended to take his phone out and.

Speaker 2 (06:54):
I don't know. I was trying to you know, I was
going to show the action.

Speaker 1 (06:57):
I was going to explain it also, okay, explain it basically. Yeah,
last video, I just saw him scroll through a ton
of videos. Oh my god, video, this is too much.
You see.

Speaker 3 (07:13):
You can see, he said, I'm gonna show you to go.

Speaker 1 (07:14):
I just look at how much she's scrolling. All I
see is videos video and it's the way his fingers like, yeah,
how's his fingers going? Yeah, so you've been practic twice
on video.

Speaker 2 (07:27):
Yeah, twice video for you.

Speaker 1 (07:31):
How did you know you liked it?

Speaker 4 (07:32):
Well, it wasn't even that. It was just the fact
of like, here you go sound but you can check
me out.

Speaker 1 (07:43):
Lord, we're gonna do close your mouth, come, I get
in it. Throw ust in that bitch. We want to
see you.

Speaker 5 (07:51):
No, I want to see Okay, you're gonna share it
on this Saturday.

Speaker 1 (07:58):
So how did you know you like that?

Speaker 2 (08:00):
So what happened was it wasn't the fact that I
just liked it.

Speaker 4 (08:05):
I didn't just come out. I didn't just come out
the gate like you know what I mean, that's what
I like. But like I used to date a lot
of it.

Speaker 5 (08:10):
I like that position position but you see, like.

Speaker 4 (08:16):
Okay, so all right, so a quick history on it.
Like I used to date a lot of women that
it was like a little dominant, you know what I'm saying.
So like my first experience, you know what I mean,
I had at a young age. I had a girl
that was in the eating ass right before sucking my dick.

Speaker 2 (08:33):
I'm like, man, this is different. Right. Once she explained
her reasons, I accepted it right then. It was a time,
she said, she said, looking asked for her and her religion.
It's a sign of royalty, so I have to I
said religion that she was bellieging.

Speaker 8 (08:48):
A sign of royalty, like how she valued me and
worshiped me.

Speaker 4 (08:53):
She like, if I if I can't have you whole,
then I don't want you to. When she said that,
she dead that serious, like no smiling or nothing. I'm like,
So then that once that happened, then I started dealing
with more women that was into the same type of thing.
So now I'm getting more comfortable. Right then I'll start
dating this one girl that had a relationship with she

(09:14):
was dating a girl, you know what I'm saying. So
she she didn't want to, you know, how to look
at us. And then she was into like doing little
fingers and little antal play stuff.

Speaker 2 (09:23):
She like stuff like that. So it's like over over time.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
It was build here's a build up, and that's where
your spot is.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
And that's when I learned. Right.

Speaker 4 (09:30):
So so once I started getting pleasured and as like
I had one girl like she would go to dig
the balls, you know what I'm saying, and energy spot
all at once.

Speaker 2 (09:37):
So it's getting super crazy, like you know what I mean,
far as climax, as far as the climax.

Speaker 4 (09:42):
So but I'm just saying some girls are making harder
for the next girl, like that, you ain't gonna go nowhere.

Speaker 2 (09:46):
I'm gonna treat you different, and you like shit, I
ain't going nowhere.

Speaker 4 (09:48):
She You ain't doing what you're gonna do to me,
like you know, because you feel different, you know.

Speaker 2 (09:53):
What I mean.

Speaker 4 (09:53):
And I always been guard down when it came to
my partners, when it't coming to the bedroom, like if
we're gonna have fun, let's have fun.

Speaker 2 (09:58):
Ain't no rules in the bedroom or something, you know
what I mean.

Speaker 1 (10:00):
That's how I feel because some people, some guys can
be very nervous to do things like that.

Speaker 2 (10:05):
Well I say this, I don't think they're that nervous because,
if anything, they're more nervous about speaking on them.

Speaker 1 (10:12):
Okay, yeah, this is a lot dude that don't speak
and they will not admit it public.

Speaker 4 (10:17):
You feel me because I know a lot of I know,
I've heard a lot and I'm like, talk to other
women that have been in relationships where they can't be
their full self to explore their partner because they either
you know, they gotta they gotta be so masculine and
feel like you know, so guarded, it's just so tough.
It's like, man, you can let your guard down. You
can be vulnerable with your women. You know what I'm saying,

(10:38):
because you that's how you want it to be for you.

Speaker 1 (10:40):
So have you always been like this?

Speaker 4 (10:43):
I mean, like I said, by being a young age,
I think I think over time I just go to that.
I think over time just got to a place like
where I'm comfortable with accepting, like how I get pleased
because like all these experiences didn't just come out out
of my head. It came from different experiences with different
women that was doing different type of performances on me.

Speaker 1 (11:00):
So, and what made you comfortable to actually put video out?

Speaker 2 (11:04):
And okay, so good question. It was a video.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
Six seven years ago that had got leaked of me,
you know what I'm saying, And I was sending videos
to a chick.

Speaker 2 (11:16):
I was trying to set up a threesome.

Speaker 4 (11:17):
Fo what you know what I'm saying with my girl,
and you know, it got aired on TV and everything.

Speaker 2 (11:21):
You know what I'm saying, and.

Speaker 4 (11:22):
It really and like even after that, I remember it
wouldn't let people wouldn't let it go, like even now,
like so if I see a blog somebody post me
like and it could be a block showing some love
like nothing nothing, no driving, no messy stuff, and people
still be in the comments like, oh, we ain't forget about.

Speaker 2 (11:36):
This or one and it yeah, you know so that
was like so in my man, I'm like, man, you
know what, if that's all y'all go think about, I'm
finna make y'all talk about everything. Now.

Speaker 4 (11:50):
I'm gonna get y'all something to really talk about, you
know what I'm saying. But at my comfort, you know
what I'm saying. Where i'm I'm I'm in control, I'm
owning my ship. But it's like y'all gonna talk. I'm
gonna make y'all really talk. You know what I'm saying
because I really give a fuck. I'm comfortable.

Speaker 1 (12:02):
That's a good level of don't give a fuck.

Speaker 3 (12:04):
That is the highest.

Speaker 4 (12:05):
But I've learned once you reach that level of not
giving the fuck, that's when you you you're most comfortable.
That's what's successful. Like to me, like, you know what
I mean, ain't about the finance. This is about like
you can get up and walking who is you?

Speaker 9 (12:17):
Who you is?

Speaker 2 (12:17):
And I give a fuck about how nobody feels about
it making fans like five thousand a day.

Speaker 1 (12:25):
A lot of people wouldn't give a fuck.

Speaker 4 (12:27):
Like like the more and more like like like because honestly,
the first I was a little like first I was
a little hesitant, like about like who was buying my content?

Speaker 3 (12:36):
That was my question that my head because yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:39):
Not for sure, because like the type of expression that
I'm putting out, I have to understand that everybody is
gonna want to tap in, you know what I'm saying everybody.
So I started looking at it like this, like, man,
all I see is being frank at this point, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 2 (12:52):
And I gotta treat my account like it's Netflix. It's
a subscription given, you know. I mean, That's how I.

Speaker 1 (12:57):
Look at itidual.

Speaker 10 (13:00):
Have you ever been curious to have any experiences with
like a man and a woman?

Speaker 2 (13:03):
No?

Speaker 4 (13:04):
No, So it's actually crazy. This one girl I used
to date mess around with, she wanted me to have
a threesome, asked, and I was like, man, honestly, I
can't do it, you know what I mean, like not
running the training cool? She she wanted us to all
to get active, she said, Man, it likes to be off.
I'm like, no, me personally, I don't want to upset
you in your fantasy because I'm not. I'm not gonna
it's not gonna.

Speaker 6 (13:23):
Work for me because you're not into men. You're not.

Speaker 2 (13:27):
No, for sure, I don't. I don't. I don't. I
don't want to be with a man, a man or whatever.

Speaker 4 (13:31):
So you know, and if I did, and that's what
I would openly do, but that's not that's not what
I meant to, so I have to so she had
to respect.

Speaker 2 (13:36):
I'm like, yo, let's get it, let's get a girl
like you know, but that's what what she wanted.

Speaker 1 (13:40):
Like what about okay, what about if a co wanted
to watch you have sex with his wife?

Speaker 2 (13:44):
So that's actually crazy. Somebody actually asked, you know.

Speaker 1 (13:47):
Yeah, because I feel like that's really I actually.

Speaker 4 (13:49):
Asked, like, man, like you know, I want you. I
want to just be in the watch you make up
with my wife. But like I always thought I was
a setup, like.

Speaker 5 (13:56):
You know, like it's gonna start with us, but you're
gonna end up trying to I don't.

Speaker 4 (14:04):
I just felt weird, Like I remember the couple that
that it was they wanted to fly me in Vegas,
like you can stay with us or whatever.

Speaker 2 (14:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (14:10):
That was a bitive.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
He's saying, come, you go do it at the house.
So I'm thinking, like, I don't. I'm just thinking about
being kidnapped. I'm just thinking about.

Speaker 3 (14:17):
Like you are who you are.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
That's what I'm thinking about everything. I was like, man
that I ain't doing it if it ain't my control.
I'm cool, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (14:25):
So that's a no. But you would do it if
if you were in control of it.

Speaker 4 (14:29):
No, I mean, I just that's how my thing like
talking about too far as like being watched.

Speaker 2 (14:33):
Yeah, yeah, you'll see.

Speaker 4 (14:34):
I mean I had sex in the public. Not anybody
can watch. But I don't think I would get a
kick out of like it being like like I'm sucking
your girl like people have like promoter us even like
when I got booked the club, then that's my wife.

Speaker 2 (14:47):
But you can have them.

Speaker 1 (14:48):
I'm like, no, so crazy that manner?

Speaker 4 (14:50):
Well, because I feel like some people, some men, some
men I feel like, will do whatever for they wotan
which is I understand that part. So I feel like
if if they have that open you know what I'm
saying that relationship about what they like or whatever or not.
You know, I feel like some people will be comfortable
doing it me personally, it's just like out of respect,
I wouldn't bro.

Speaker 1 (15:10):
What about your child's mother, how does she feel about.

Speaker 2 (15:13):
She's we've done acts before she.

Speaker 6 (15:17):
Met you, Like this is something she's already comfortable. I
have a question.

Speaker 8 (15:22):
So like when when your girl was walking you in
the street, like on the lash and stuff like that, Like,
what was that?

Speaker 6 (15:28):
Does that excite you?

Speaker 1 (15:29):
Did that make you like?

Speaker 4 (15:31):
I mean she was I mean she had dominatrix, so
you know what I mean. She just into like all
types of different roles and just having fun, just doing
it a little different, like living a little abnormal.

Speaker 6 (15:40):
Where she told you they look the floor.

Speaker 2 (15:42):
I don't looked the floor. I was sniffing. You did?

Speaker 5 (15:51):
You did?

Speaker 2 (15:52):
But you know, it's crazy to pee in that position.
It's hard.

Speaker 9 (15:57):
So that.

Speaker 1 (16:00):
The show.

Speaker 10 (16:02):
Answer to where were y'all?

Speaker 2 (16:03):
We was uh, because it looked like it was in
broad Daily was actually no.

Speaker 4 (16:07):
It was actually kind of like it was just the
lights in the streetlights was on, so look it looked
like yeah, but we was we was in Dallas. We
actually was like on the like a low key street though,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (16:18):
Before anybody, because you can't really just be naked outside
like that either. So that's a is that a turn
on to.

Speaker 2 (16:26):
Yeah, it's just like it was just like a rush.

Speaker 6 (16:29):
It was like a high recorded Yeah.

Speaker 2 (16:31):
That was no no, So that was the thing. So
we we eventually, me and her, we she recorded me
in the field. You know what I'm saying. The video
that that that surface.

Speaker 5 (16:41):
Somebody saw you guys, Yeah, somebody was when you look
at that.

Speaker 2 (16:46):
Somebody called me because it was like it was like exactly,
it was like some neighbor watch it. But but I said,
before we even did that, we was on the block
for at least about thirty forty minutes.

Speaker 4 (16:57):
I'm checking traving and anybody coming up and down the street.
It was a quiet block, did it real click?

Speaker 2 (17:00):
I was like, take that long.

Speaker 1 (17:02):
Its a lot so interesting to me.

Speaker 6 (17:04):
Nobody passed by, nobody said what you doing.

Speaker 4 (17:06):
Nobody there made sure I'm saying, it wasn't that long
we was out there, but I mean we posted for
a minute to just check make sure.

Speaker 2 (17:13):
That the area, Yeah, make sure the area wasn't a
lot of traffic.

Speaker 1 (17:16):
Yeah, I want to ask you this because I'm black
and I remember there were a lot of things that
you were going through mentally on the show that you
were very vocal about. I remember the episode where they
couldn't find you that was really concerning. So now the
space that you're in, do you feel like you're more
free than ever? Has that helped you mentally or what's
going on?

Speaker 2 (17:35):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (17:35):
It definitely helped me, you know, mentally for sure, but
not necessary the sex stuff, but just being free, just
like not caring, just being being being me, being just
being Yeah, absolutely, you know what I mean that that's
the that's the part that you know, I get a
kick out of, not necessarily just like I think.

Speaker 5 (17:53):
We might be the only two people in the room
that's been maked in public and didn't care to public.

Speaker 1 (17:57):
I was a, oh yeah, let's not make it outside private,
get outside outside.

Speaker 2 (18:05):
Yeah I've been that video having surface yet.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
There's no video thing.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
I'll walk if you need to.

Speaker 3 (18:12):
Give me a pink man, I would walk.

Speaker 10 (18:17):
If I had.

Speaker 2 (18:19):
But you want to know something crazy though, it was
really crazy, Like it was so many women hitting me
up like yo, I want to walk you Like that
was serious, like all do that that was turned on
by it. So I'm like, wow, like okay, it's a
whole nother world.

Speaker 1 (18:33):
You know what I want to ask you? So, women,
we are very self conscious about our bodies, right, are
you ever self conscious? Because I remember on Twitter you
posted it looked like you wasn't hard and people were
saying it, and then you after that you were like,
oh you think it's not big?

Speaker 4 (18:47):
And then yeah, I mean I mean little man is
always like you.

Speaker 1 (18:52):
Know, you definitely a grower.

Speaker 2 (18:54):
Yeah, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 1 (18:55):
But god, but picture was a little.

Speaker 2 (19:04):
Like I think so so exactly. So that's why I
was like, man, they got me fucked.

Speaker 3 (19:08):
Up, right, they got here.

Speaker 2 (19:10):
That's why I said, they think they got my hair?

Speaker 3 (19:12):
Popcorn s.

Speaker 2 (19:15):
Understand my ground.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
It was a personal person.

Speaker 2 (19:17):
Like got me fucked up the ground before.

Speaker 10 (19:23):
Aud what's your favorite position?

Speaker 2 (19:27):
And what I'm saying, I'm in the position? Is she
in position?

Speaker 10 (19:31):
Give me both?

Speaker 3 (19:31):
And yeah, give me both.

Speaker 2 (19:33):
I don't know if we're tking about pagan.

Speaker 1 (19:35):
Can you can you from getting pegged?

Speaker 4 (19:37):
So yeah, when you hitting the G spot, you're gonna masturbate,
You're gonna explode, get crazy way.

Speaker 6 (19:41):
So so when you hitting the you Yeah, masturbate wow.

Speaker 2 (19:46):
Hm, yeah you can Okay what she can do she can't. Yeah.

Speaker 3 (19:51):
Reach.

Speaker 8 (19:51):
So that's why your climates, that's when you climate. You're
not masturbating, just pegg you climax while she's so I
have seen because they say women say that that's the
best for gas.

Speaker 4 (20:04):
Yes, so do you so they So I haven't got
super far into the peggan thing, but I've been doing
a lot of research. Right, So some people can come
just off getting pegged like crazy.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 6 (20:16):
Guess, do not ejaculate and just come how we climb it?

Speaker 2 (20:19):
That's what I'm trying to know.

Speaker 3 (20:21):
Definitely gets wet.

Speaker 4 (20:22):
Yeah, it's a lot of levels. Now all the way
I'm not all the way in like like that like that.
I'm still like, you know what I'm saying, experience.

Speaker 1 (20:32):
You're a new peggy.

Speaker 3 (20:33):
He's still a new peggy.

Speaker 2 (20:35):
Do you believe No? No, no, if they use their
nails or something, you know what I'm saying, So.

Speaker 6 (20:40):
You don't bleed with pegan?

Speaker 2 (20:41):
No?

Speaker 6 (20:42):
Do you get hemorrhoids once?

Speaker 3 (20:45):
I think like in the beginning, do you I have
hemorrhoids from when I have my child? They never want to.
But I've had some antal sex that made my hemorhoids.

Speaker 2 (20:55):
God damn, that's a bad idea, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3 (20:58):
That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (21:00):
It wasn't because they say you have to really get
prepared for that too, like you got to make sure
that you you know that.

Speaker 3 (21:05):
You clean up, clean off the good.

Speaker 1 (21:07):
What's your prepar so do you do it on that
or do you just going?

Speaker 2 (21:10):
I mean, I don't know. I just I'm just god
by it.

Speaker 11 (21:12):
So thank God when you not when you every time
it was time, when you're just regularly like.

Speaker 3 (21:25):
Or twice a day, it's not anything there, that's nothing.

Speaker 1 (21:29):
I've always heard people say they have to prepare for it.

Speaker 5 (21:32):
Yeah, somebody, I'm just nervous to any time I've ever
had anal I never prepared as far as like douche
in my ass or anything.

Speaker 3 (21:43):
A lot of women that do that finger thumb dick
if it's going.

Speaker 2 (21:45):
Is going for sure.

Speaker 1 (21:46):
Literally, like you have a song called nothing I won't do? Yeah, okay,
so what are some things you but you did tell
its a couple of things you wouldn't do if you
won't do.

Speaker 4 (21:55):
Yeah, the name it, I mean nothing I won't do
because like he goes back to me saying like, I'm
I'm a big pleaser when it comes like the woman
I'm with, you know.

Speaker 2 (22:03):
What I'm saying. So that's what That's pretty much what
I was getting.

Speaker 1 (22:06):
That's some things you have said no to.

Speaker 2 (22:08):
Though.

Speaker 1 (22:09):
Besides that that, that's it.

Speaker 2 (22:13):
Ship.

Speaker 4 (22:14):
I mean, I don't know, I ain't really I mean
I think that's the only thing I really said.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
What about trans women?

Speaker 2 (22:21):
So I had an experience with one. It was a threesome,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (22:25):
Uh, it was with the girl I was dealing with,
and she was married, and she got up with me
for her fetishis and you know, we was she was
she was into like the pagan and all that type
of stuff.

Speaker 2 (22:39):
Right, No, no, no, I was just like.

Speaker 3 (22:43):
The same said. She got with me to fulfill.

Speaker 2 (22:45):
Her Yeah, because she couldn't do none of.

Speaker 3 (22:46):
That, so she her escape.

Speaker 2 (22:50):
Yeah. But the thing was, like I said, like, we
we got a wee one.

Speaker 4 (22:54):
Day, she wanted to have a threesome. Right, she didn't say,
well who anything like that. We went to the hotel,
you know what I mean. She hit the lights real low.
Imagine that this probably been rocking with her for a minute,
so we already kind of comfortable, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (23:05):
So I know what she into. She know what I'm into,
type ship.

Speaker 4 (23:08):
But when the when, the when the when she brought
her partner, the girl or whatever.

Speaker 2 (23:15):
Because of who I was. She had the lights dim anyway,
because she didn't want the girl to be like yeah,
she just wanted her to get lost in the moment,
you know what I'm saying. So they started making out,
you know what I'm saying, No, no, no, no, ain't. So
they're making out.

Speaker 4 (23:32):
This is a this is a while ago too though,
but look they was making out or whatever. I was
blindfolded at first, and then she she took him off,
and so I'm sitting there they making out. I'm like, okay,
there it was bustling, it's popping, you know what I'm saying.
And imagine life still low. So uh, you know, I
get to doing my thing or whatever. She she's this one.
I knew it was a transformer so short. The girl
I was with, she she had a little strap on stuff.

(23:53):
And then next thing you know, I'm watching her get
penetrated by the other woman.

Speaker 6 (24:00):
As the trends that didn't have the surgery.

Speaker 2 (24:02):
Yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 9 (24:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (24:03):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (24:03):
She was sparkling like she was talking about the shooting fucked.
So so at that point I'm like, oh wow. So
after after we got done everything, I told her like, man,
I wish you would have told me, like, you know, yeah,
but she it's just just so it's more comfortable, like
just so we know what we've been into.

Speaker 2 (24:17):
But I wasn't. I wasn't.

Speaker 4 (24:18):
I wasn't mad at her, you know what I'm saying,
because she was just being herself. But like I said,
like from that moment, it just made me a little
more open minded.

Speaker 2 (24:25):
Like I started like kind of started like.

Speaker 4 (24:28):
Because Shorty was very like people do so so they
have so much great surgery out here. I'm like wow,
like you know, and she was really a pretty girl,
like not really a lot of makeup and none of
that stuff.

Speaker 2 (24:38):
So I really didn't know at the moment.

Speaker 4 (24:40):
But once I learned about it, I start I started
seeing like, Okay, that's how they look.

Speaker 2 (24:43):
Now.

Speaker 4 (24:43):
That's so I started paying attention once and now I've
been kind of bringing more awareness to them because I
feel like they don't get enough recognition or people feel
like they don't need to.

Speaker 2 (24:52):
Be talked about. They act like they don't they don't exist.
So I do speak them. Yeah they around, Yeah, but
like I know a lot.

Speaker 4 (25:00):
And then the thing is, like I know a lot
of like friends, Like like I can go I guarantee
go on a trans woman's page right now, and I'll
see one of my friends like their pictures. But I
will never point them out. But I see like I'm okay,
but publicly they're probably never say But but the thing
is is like, well, you you ain't gonna find this
page unless you into that, Like you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (25:19):
You gotta you know what I mean, you know how
the algorithm works and stuff.

Speaker 4 (25:22):
So but like I said, I just now, I just
bring bring awareness to it because at the end of
the day, like they may be some that's somebody's family, you.

Speaker 6 (25:30):
Know, So would you be attractive to a trus.

Speaker 4 (25:33):
Mean, I feel like they if your goal is, well,
I feel like that if your goal is to look
as much as a woman as you want to be,
then it's like, of course you're supposed to look attractive.

Speaker 2 (25:42):
If I'm attractive to women.

Speaker 1 (25:43):
He said, she was beautiful. Absolutely don't make very little makeup.

Speaker 4 (25:47):
Something like it was like it was a situation where
it was hard to tell, you know what I'm saying. Now,
this was a mother fuck like me in a room
on you.

Speaker 2 (25:52):
Give it your you give it, you give it. It ain't
on you know, like if it was a situation like
trans woman in the right situation.

Speaker 4 (26:01):
Yeah, like because like you have to also understand someone's
story and journey, like like this is another thing that
I that I always look at it like in high school, right,
uh it was it was a girl that was really
pretty right. She was my homegirl, I think prom queen
and everything. You see her up right now Now she's
she wanted the guys.

Speaker 2 (26:21):
You know what I'm saying. She got a baby, she
got beard.

Speaker 4 (26:24):
So she's so now she's a she's a trans man.
And I watch everybody on the block treated the same.
They shoot dice with her, they smoke with her, they
they go pull bitches with it, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (26:34):
So it's like who we the you know, play the game? Yeah?
So there I just like I said, I don't know.

Speaker 1 (26:39):
I'm gonna hear the because I don't give a funk,
Like whatever you're gonna do is what you're gonna do
like that.

Speaker 2 (26:45):
May that don't concern me, So why should I be
that bothered?

Speaker 4 (26:48):
I feel like if anybody is that bothered to buy
what someone else does or whoever's in the room, something
personally wrong with you.

Speaker 2 (26:54):
That's just how I feel.

Speaker 3 (26:55):
I feel the same way.

Speaker 4 (26:56):
I know some trans women that don't even like to
put the pressure of the identity on them because of
what the society makes them feel like, So they like
to just if you because I see a lot of
a lot of them hang out with with the girls
and they go to clubs and YadA yadaya to get
the make up done here.

Speaker 2 (27:09):
You know what I'm saying. They treat them all the same.
So the thing is is like, you know, who are
we to make somebody.

Speaker 1 (27:15):
We've had a lot of trans women on this show
on the service previously, and what I don't like is
that people would you know, hit them up in the
d MS, mess with them, and then act like it
it never happen. Yeah exactly, But that's I mean.

Speaker 10 (27:32):
But that's got to feel not feel good to somebody
love you a private and then.

Speaker 1 (27:38):
I don't like it never happened.

Speaker 10 (27:40):
Yeah, that's got to not feel good.

Speaker 4 (27:41):
You know, like like like the girl with now like her.
One of her closest friends is a trans woman. She's beautiful,
you know what I'm saying. She went to high school
with us, so she's been a part of the whole transition.
And she supports her, you know what I mean. And
by me being her partner, it's like, you know, you
should uplift your that's your friend, Like, yeah, you should
never treat her no different?

Speaker 2 (27:59):
Do you treat your other on girls like?

Speaker 5 (28:00):
You know?

Speaker 3 (28:01):
So?

Speaker 10 (28:02):
So are you you're in a relationship?

Speaker 2 (28:03):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (28:04):
Is it monogamous? Are y'all?

Speaker 2 (28:05):
I mean, we have three all kind of stuff.

Speaker 3 (28:07):
Okay, but you're monogamous with each other. But y'all play
with each other?

Speaker 2 (28:15):
Yeah for sure.

Speaker 1 (28:16):
Okay. And I said, you told Candy, you said you'd
be doing swimmers parties and stuff like that.

Speaker 2 (28:20):
Yeah, we had. I'll be doing like little lingerie parties.
Are girls on? You know I'm saying. I invite a
few of the guys because I don't want girls.

Speaker 1 (28:25):
In the sound fair.

Speaker 2 (28:27):
I invite a lot of girls. There's a lot of
man no girl girl and girls be happening.

Speaker 3 (28:33):
Girls love girls where I'm from, the girls be with
the girl.

Speaker 2 (28:37):
Yeah, But then I invite I invite a handful of
guys where the girls don't fee like they're around the
creeps like you know what I mean, some guys. We
don't want to weird those, you know what I'm saying.
So raper man, you know, so I just make sure
the vibes of the level of maturity is there. You
know what I'm saying. We gonna have it. We gonna
bang out and have a good time bang out, you
know what I'm saying, Like do your things?

Speaker 10 (28:59):
Does your girlfriend?

Speaker 9 (29:00):
Does she ever get insecure or feel when you guys
are with when you're with another woman.

Speaker 2 (29:07):
U if I picked if I picked the girl.

Speaker 1 (29:10):
But that's always the rule of a threesome, right, the
woman has to pick that up.

Speaker 2 (29:14):
Always the ru.

Speaker 5 (29:18):
That's in the R supposed to be Y had that.
I've never had a threesomewhere. My guy brought the girl
was always me.

Speaker 1 (29:26):
That's always the way it works best.

Speaker 10 (29:28):
So what happens when you pick the girl?

Speaker 4 (29:30):
The thing is she'll do it like this, like we'll
we'll be chilling or whatever. Let's say she we drinking,
we out and we get home. She might get she
horny in the move.

Speaker 2 (29:38):
She might be like she like call your call it
cast some bitches to you know what I'm saying. And
so at that point, I'm I'm doing what I I
got something. I guess you know what I mean.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
I've been knowing, like you know, but the thing is
with her, like she'd be like if we if we
with girl, she'd rather just be like not friends like girls,
like if we're gonna go out versus like you know,
people that we deal with daily.

Speaker 2 (30:01):
You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 1 (30:02):
That makes sense? Now what about can she talk to
other guys?

Speaker 2 (30:07):
I don't she like girls?

Speaker 1 (30:08):
Okay, okay, so only other women she like girls? Do
you ever get you like nas too?

Speaker 9 (30:13):
Clearly?

Speaker 1 (30:13):
Because she like you?

Speaker 3 (30:14):
Yeah?

Speaker 2 (30:15):
For sure.

Speaker 4 (30:15):
But I feel like, I mean, we've talked enough, like
I mean, our relationships, like she she like when it
comes to like sex, she don't. She only wants like
one man and she wants to have multiple girls together,
like I guess two years.

Speaker 7 (30:32):
I guess how you guess, because I don't like sometimes
because I'm bad with days and time, so sometimes you
get lost on the sauce, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (30:38):
If she did get with another guy, though, would you
be mad?

Speaker 4 (30:41):
Like if she told me if we did like to,
We've been talking about, like you know, like going to
other people like swinger parties and stuff, and she was
asking me, well, would I be comfortable with you know?
But I tell her this, like, if you really really
feel this way, you know what I'm saying, all I
could do is respect because you told me.

Speaker 2 (30:55):
I'm saying like I don't.

Speaker 4 (30:56):
I don't like, I don't want you to because in
her way, the way she feels like I don't want
I don't want you to feel like this is the
last piece of pussy you finna get your whole life,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (31:07):
So if that's how she feels, she really just want to,
you know what, I gotta just can't I got I
guess I gotta respect it the same way she You
know what I'm saying, you gotta be even exchanged, Like
don't matter how much I you know what I mean,
It's just it's just it comes down to to the
to the relationship. You know what I'm saying, Just communicating
and how comfortable you are.

Speaker 1 (31:27):
But if she told you, you know what, I'm done
with this. I just wanted to be me and you
forget all these other But.

Speaker 4 (31:31):
That's what I feel like it is now, like you know,
like feelings gross, you know every day, you know what
I'm saying. So now I feel like like we'll do it.
I thing hearing up but now but I could tell
that she's very not more now, very overprotective of me.
You know, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 10 (31:46):
How can you tell?

Speaker 2 (31:48):
Because when I.

Speaker 4 (31:48):
Bring girls around or if I try to show a
girl Instagram, look she you know, I just you just
notice the move change a.

Speaker 1 (31:54):
Little bit right because you know her?

Speaker 2 (31:57):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (31:58):
Are you okay with that? Could it be just the
two of you?

Speaker 2 (32:02):
I mean, I mean, anything is possible.

Speaker 10 (32:06):
He would prefer not to be down.

Speaker 2 (32:09):
It's hard when you start this way, like you kick
it off like this, like now, I didn't kick it off.
She did. She kicked it off. I go, I go
to your crib.

Speaker 4 (32:16):
It's bitches in the hot tel, you like get in naked.
So I'm like, oh, okay, this this is what we're doing.
So I'm like ship, I'm I'm texting my brother like bro,
it's like, you know, but it's like when when you
started like that, then it's just like like you're trying
to set the tone. And you know what I'm saying,
I'm not saying I gotta be like that every single day,
you know what I'm saying, because it's been like I said,
like there's been times where me we could just rock

(32:37):
out where I mean, sometimes we get drained. Like I don't,
I don't like I'm very now I'm in a place
where I'm very protective of my energy, So I don't
want to give it to a million a million people
who don't deserve it.

Speaker 2 (32:47):
Doesn't gonna suck me dry anyway. So you know you
like to be so dry dry, yes, ma'am.

Speaker 1 (32:57):
Now tell us about the music, because I know that's
important to you too, and obviously, like all of the
things that you've been doing for play really plays into that.

Speaker 2 (33:06):
Thank you.

Speaker 4 (33:07):
So by me being on TV, you know, I was
doing a lot of different type music, a lot of
like you know, like hit records, a lot of just
like what's the what's the word conscious rap?

Speaker 2 (33:16):
What do you want to call it? Then?

Speaker 4 (33:17):
I just sometimes you got to you get to a
point in your career and life where you just got
to kind of pay attention to your audience. And uh,
you know when I even when I check my like
with social media, you could just see like how me
got more God followers than girl follows. So I always
have more girls, So let me just cater to them
a little more, you know what I'm saying. So, and
then I pay attention to the to the to the
industry that we're in right now. It's not a lot.

(33:38):
It's not a lot of men catering to the women
like that in music. I feel like, so if I
feel like so, I'm like, that's a lane that's open,
you know what I mean. So I look at lanes
that's open where it takes competition away, you know what
I mean, where I can like benefit, you know what
I mean, I could cater to them and make make
women feel like it's okay to you know, soften it,
because now these women not as hard as fun. They
running around, they got ops gun they so are they

(34:02):
don't blocks it's going down like you.

Speaker 2 (34:04):
Know, they're so tough, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (34:06):
I do feel like the guys has been a lot
more emotional than the women lately.

Speaker 2 (34:10):
I mean women, they I mean shout out to chout
out to them doing anything, but they so damn tough
right now, Likely scared and literally like literally in Chicago.

Speaker 4 (34:19):
I saw like I followed out like Chicago blogs and stuff,
and I saw like there's one video.

Speaker 2 (34:24):
These these two girls were shooting at each other. Pulled
up talking to the bitch. They it just looked like
some nigga ship. They forgot how they forgot that they
beautiful creatures. They need to just like need to be reminded,
like you know, you know, I mean like exactly, like
you know, it's just like for me, it's just like damn,
I just want you to, you know, like get your
head out a little bit, like you know, get sexy
with some hills on. Like what these force ones they

(34:46):
all day relax, you know That's what I'm saying. Like
they so tough. They got the bleak like like this
one girl got this one girl came and got tattooed.
She had two guns on her. Oh my god, what
you pulled up got to shes taking two guns all
her hip, Like you know what I'm saying. She had
an owner, like like she got some people looking for it.

(35:06):
Like now it's cool if it's a person. You know
what I'm saying. I don't even got mine. I'm like,
she's gonna get me.

Speaker 6 (35:15):
Somebody running part that part too, Yeah, that part too.
But that's another thing like living in the world right
now where a lot of women do feel that they
need to can they do?

Speaker 2 (35:24):
It's a way to use everything going on?

Speaker 1 (35:27):
What about this in the bedroom? Do you do any
type of costumes dressing up? I feel like you have to.

Speaker 2 (35:32):
Yeah. I love Halloween, so so I love Halloween. So
this was perfect me. I like to dress up. You
know what I'm saying, I might be acting role plays. Uh, Porky,
Porky the pig.

Speaker 1 (35:48):
That's funny like a video, it's really show God, did
you talk like Porky?

Speaker 2 (35:58):
He was wrong? I want a little bit, a little bit.

Speaker 1 (36:03):
Squeal like a pig.

Speaker 2 (36:06):
With only when the character you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 1 (36:09):
Okay, now, while you're looking for that video? What about
other things?

Speaker 8 (36:12):
Like?

Speaker 1 (36:12):
What about being urinated on?

Speaker 2 (36:14):
I did actually drunk drunk urine? My girl?

Speaker 1 (36:17):
You know you drank her urine?

Speaker 2 (36:20):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (36:22):
What depends on what she ate?

Speaker 10 (36:24):
What does it tas? What did it taste like?

Speaker 2 (36:27):
It was just I don't know, it was just I
can't even I just know it wasn't it was not
no one to swallow under that is it. It was
it was taste. Did it?

Speaker 1 (36:35):
Did it turn you off?

Speaker 3 (36:38):
Or did it?

Speaker 2 (36:38):
I was cool getting peed on, but it was like
when I tried to actually like drink it, that was you.

Speaker 1 (36:44):
That was your idea?

Speaker 3 (36:45):
Was it out of a cup? You know?

Speaker 2 (36:47):
I actually she stood over me and then you. I
closed my eyes. I think got a little bit in
the eye.

Speaker 5 (36:53):
Back in my stripper days, I had a customer that
would pay me for shots in my pie really on
the basics.

Speaker 6 (37:00):
Now, yeah, so he's not paying enjoy it.

Speaker 2 (37:02):
Yeah, but see I think that was in the cut.
Like honestly, you know, it was me, like it was
the flood. It was so much coming down. I just
couldn't even like water board yeah yeah, your surfboard whatever.

Speaker 1 (37:13):
But perfectly as much as she paced a lot, she
pieced everything. And when she said, what about getting fisted?
Have you ever done that?

Speaker 2 (37:24):
I ain't open like that yet.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
Oh come on, now, you don't do all this other stuff.
And now that's that's the list.

Speaker 10 (37:34):
Said, Yet let's see it past.

Speaker 3 (37:36):
He's a baby peg, remember, okay, got porky? Yeah right,
I was expecting like a whole like.

Speaker 6 (37:47):
I was expecting the pale pink that.

Speaker 1 (37:50):
I was expecting something fuzzy, like, yeah, what are some
things that you haven't done that you want to do?

Speaker 2 (37:56):
M hmm, good question. A lot. I think that's the problem.
I've done a lot. That's why. I think that's why.

Speaker 4 (38:04):
That's why I'm in a place not where I'm where
it's like I'm so vulnerab because I didn't done a lot.
We're just like out like I don't have no problem
talking about it or just showing it because I didn't.

Speaker 9 (38:12):
Do a lot.

Speaker 6 (38:13):
I love that you're so comfortable, so open and so
honest and so raw about it.

Speaker 5 (38:17):
And it's like, there's so many weren't that way, and
especially going back to when you said about like being
comfortable with getting your ass and being comfortable with moving
from that to fingers and now to pegging. Speaking of
someone who has done I haven't done pegging there.

Speaker 3 (38:35):
I would like to.

Speaker 2 (38:35):
But so that is that that's on your to do
list for well.

Speaker 5 (38:38):
Yeah, but now that I'm engaged, I know my husband
and I don't think he's into it. Yeah I don't think,
Yeah he's not, he's not.

Speaker 1 (38:44):
But but but but there was a time, but that
was something I wanted to do and There's there's been
a lot of times where I've been, you know, having
antal play on a partner or two, and that's just
something that we never talked about.

Speaker 5 (39:00):
Like the only time we do talk about it is
when they ask for it. And then even when they
ask for it, they don't say, like play with my butt,
They say play with my balls.

Speaker 3 (39:07):
And that's like or like or if I'm sucking dick,
they're like to live there their balls up there like
kind of like you know, going there, or they'll like
slide forward like this. There's like signs and.

Speaker 5 (39:20):
Things that that you know, I would know like, Okay,
this is what he's asking for. But there was never
conversations afterwards like yeah, maybe you sucking up my ass
whole last night, Like you know.

Speaker 1 (39:29):
We never have. It's not it can't be discussed, like
we just don't talk about the fact.

Speaker 3 (39:34):
So the fact that you're so open to be able
to talk about.

Speaker 1 (39:37):
It, and cause there's a whole bunch of guys right
now listening that will never maybe like yeah, the conversation,
let me just.

Speaker 3 (39:43):
Finish this one thing.

Speaker 5 (39:44):
It's the conversations that not that you're having the conversations
with your partners the fact that you're open having a
conversation with complete strangers and on camera like that just
takes it to a whole other level.

Speaker 3 (39:52):
And I just have to come in you and say.

Speaker 2 (39:55):
Thank you, appreciate that for sharing.

Speaker 6 (39:58):
It's gonna be all the man.

Speaker 2 (40:00):
But you know it's crazy.

Speaker 4 (40:01):
They already have been doing it like like even like
so the craziest part of since I just been like
comfortable with putting myself out there, a lot of my
friends have changed.

Speaker 2 (40:09):
You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (40:10):
I like, man, everybody, it's weird, like you know what
I mean? Like they that's what's why I got to
that place, like you know what, I got sucked them like,
I don't know how somebody feels some way when it
has nothing to do with you.

Speaker 2 (40:23):
You don't tell me what you and your girl do
in the bedroom. I don't ask. But the fact that
I chose to take.

Speaker 1 (40:29):
Somebody said that you got kicked off of Black Ink
because of that, they were I.

Speaker 2 (40:33):
Don't get kicked off.

Speaker 1 (40:34):
I look like I got kicked off.

Speaker 6 (40:36):
He's number goof.

Speaker 2 (40:39):
What I think.

Speaker 10 (40:40):
What I think is interesting is that and this is
not this is like a stereotype I had.

Speaker 2 (40:45):
Somebody didn't get kicked off. But it wasn't me. You
know what I'm saying. It wasn't me.

Speaker 6 (40:50):
It wasn't for it.

Speaker 3 (40:51):
That's all that matter.

Speaker 10 (40:52):
I was gonna say that.

Speaker 9 (40:53):
When I think of guys in my mind that enjoyed
some of the things that you talk about, they don't
look like you. So it's cool to have a common
station with a goud.

Speaker 2 (41:00):
It's like a don't give.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
Yeah, I just like to be pleased, like I like
to like like like right now, if I meet a
chick right now, you know what I mean, like outside
of my relationship, and she just want to come and
you know, so you ever had conversation with people they
talk about created sex game is.

Speaker 2 (41:17):
And then you'll get in the bedroom. I'm like, that's you.

Speaker 4 (41:25):
This go last, you know what I mean, especially now,
like from experience, all the experience I got now, so
it's like if you just suck a dick, man, it's tough.

Speaker 10 (41:33):
Like you know, you've got to be intimidated for any
new girls.

Speaker 2 (41:35):
Like that's why I need a freaky girl.

Speaker 1 (41:38):
And you talked about being blindfolded earlier. What about being
tied up?

Speaker 2 (41:42):
I don't like being tied up because I don't know,
don't like there we go.

Speaker 4 (41:47):
I don't like being handcuffed or because I'd be thinking,
see my mind, be like time me up and then
just like leave me in the house like on some
weird sh It's just like you know, just.

Speaker 1 (41:56):
Like I don't know like you they can have a
heart attack.

Speaker 2 (41:58):
I can't do nothing like I'm handcuffed and this like
just say you just get on some whole other ship
that ain't you.

Speaker 1 (42:03):
Up loosely enough that you could get out if you
wanted to. That could be okay.

Speaker 4 (42:10):
Maybe, But I'm just saying, like the handcover thing you're
throwing away key now, I'm like, you know what I'm saying.
I'm just saying like I didn't be thinking the worst,
like somebody like locked me, Like I'd rather just just
tell me you want me to stay still and I
want move.

Speaker 1 (42:27):
Guys won't say they stay still and they I will.

Speaker 2 (42:30):
Stay still as much as I can exactly what that's like,
nobody really can stand to Like if everybody right now
I stood up and we said stay there, somebody gonna
we gonna move a little bit. It's hard to just stay.

Speaker 4 (42:39):
Stiff like we ain't manne you know, like it's actually
going through this motherfucker so I can't stand like you know,
but like, just don't lock me up where it's like ship.

Speaker 2 (42:48):
I would just laid. I want you to do whatever
you're gonna do anyway.

Speaker 1 (42:50):
Do you listen to music during sex?

Speaker 2 (42:52):
Sometimes music sometimes or or I just I don't know.
Sometimes I will, sometimes I won't because sometimes I just
like to hear her, but she like to hit.

Speaker 1 (43:00):
Me like loud aroar, we've already seen you jack off
and coming. That was loud her mouth.

Speaker 6 (43:08):
I definitely did ejaculation.

Speaker 1 (43:11):
She was watching it and her mouth was open and
he was like, look, I was like, right, does it
bother you? Okay, back to Laura. If a woman doesn't
swallow like if you come, my thing is just like.

Speaker 2 (43:36):
I rather just like I like kind of like nothing
on ass cheeks or something, and then like.

Speaker 3 (43:42):
Something, what about the face?

Speaker 2 (43:45):
Well I had I did it one time and it
got an eyelash and she's got.

Speaker 3 (43:49):
My favorite already all that time I wanted on my face.

Speaker 2 (43:54):
Yeah, I think, I mean, I've definitely done it, but
like I'll be feeling bad, like I don't want to
do you like this, but.

Speaker 1 (44:01):
I and from that value, it was a lot.

Speaker 2 (44:04):
Yeah. Let the clip. I left the clip.

Speaker 1 (44:07):
It was like three D.

Speaker 3 (44:08):
I was like it happened, yeah, shooting.

Speaker 2 (44:15):
You look literally literally literally wow?

Speaker 4 (44:20):
You know So I don't know, like like like I said,
I got my preferences obviously, but like when you're not
getting squirted on, yeah, that's just sexy.

Speaker 2 (44:28):
You know what I'm saying. Like I said, even with
the p thing, I wasn't against it. It's just like
I was trying to really drink.

Speaker 1 (44:33):
It, okay, and you learned your lesson.

Speaker 4 (44:35):
Yeah, Like because it felt like I kind of gargled
it because the way I was like this that really
like you know, it was just so much.

Speaker 2 (44:43):
I just kind of like spit it out. I was.
I was uncomfortable.

Speaker 8 (44:47):
Is it?

Speaker 2 (44:48):
There we go? Yeah? You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 5 (44:49):
I had a lot of sex with a guy once
and he was in front the back and he made
me squirt and he caught it in his mouth.

Speaker 10 (44:56):
That's how logistically, how do you do?

Speaker 3 (44:59):
How does he?

Speaker 1 (45:00):
Yeah?

Speaker 10 (45:00):
How do He's a different?

Speaker 5 (45:02):
Because I was up on the like up on the
couch on the chair like that on all fours and
he was behind me and when he he it wasn't
his victim was scary who he said it from the
back and he came out and he hit me with
the finger and the ad and then all in his
face and he literally was and I was like, oh,
you're nasty, nasty. It was our first time having sex.

Speaker 2 (45:24):
Can I say something real quick? I know you.

Speaker 4 (45:26):
I don't know if you remember this, but I do.
I ain't anything like that, but like, so, so all right,
so this was years ago. You can even check the
DM now, Like I hit you up right, and I
asked you for your number and he was like, what's
going on or whatever? And at the time when I
hit hit you, I kind of just really needed some
advice because like remember right, so like when that my

(45:47):
video enviroral, I was like really in a place like
what the fuck like And this is before it like
even aired, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (45:53):
It was it was about to air, but I'm like, man,
how do I get it? Get on top of it?
How do I even you know, I really didn't know
what to do.

Speaker 4 (46:00):
And I was really like it was like kind of
at the time it was a cry for help because
it was like I really was in a place where
I was so like discombobulated, where like I didn't have
the strength to you know, even guide myself to wear
right now, I didn't.

Speaker 2 (46:12):
I didn't have that ship, you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 4 (46:13):
So, but I just knew, like something just telling me, like, man,
I just wanted to reach out to you because I
feel like at the time, you would have had to
have the shop, like you would have to answers for me,
like you know what I mean. But you know, I'm
like I'm saying that to say, like to be right
here with you, all right.

Speaker 1 (46:26):
Did you answer?

Speaker 3 (46:27):
I didn't answer.

Speaker 2 (46:28):
Yeah, that's what I list.

Speaker 5 (46:31):
And he been trying to make it up here since then.
That's what I was here, is that initial conversation. I'm like,
now you gotta come on the couch, Like on the couch,
how you get in front of it?

Speaker 4 (46:42):
We did talk, yeah, So that's why now like I'm
just I don't know, I be really praying like people.
It's so crazy because like a lot I've been saying
obviously I see all the backlash, right, but like when
you're talking to the wrong audience, of course people don't understand.

Speaker 5 (46:55):
So that's why I lot of projection to and deflecting,
like people have issues going on with them themselves.

Speaker 2 (47:00):
The shore, that's why.

Speaker 3 (47:03):
People they attack that.

Speaker 4 (47:04):
And it is like people rather be people, rather pick
on people being versus being the one picked on, you
know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (47:11):
So you know that's why, Like where I'm at now, it's.

Speaker 1 (47:13):
Just like where do you see yourself going? Like with
everything that you've been doing, what's the playing?

Speaker 4 (47:18):
So okay, so this is my goal, right, I'm already
kind of in a process, but I'm going to open
up my sex store.

Speaker 2 (47:28):
That's what we call for play. And what I'm doing
is it's not just gonna be a store.

Speaker 4 (47:32):
It's gonna be basically a place where people can learn,
you know what I mean, and my culture. I feel
like that being a black man, it's very taboo. So
where I can I know, by by me, by being taboo,
I will have the lead to teach people different things
and team up with a team full of professionals that
can teach people about how to spice up the bedroom
and learn more about their body.

Speaker 2 (47:51):
Yeah, like I don't want to just have a sex
store line.

Speaker 1 (47:56):
All that, and you know we have to do that
can help you. Somebody up here, somebody squirted in this
room before on.

Speaker 2 (48:03):
That rug, on that wait off, y'all.

Speaker 1 (48:07):
Okay, okay, but he can make anything square that's his,
that's his. Yeah, that's what and I believe him after Yeah,
so marvelous. She teaches women how to squirt and can
make it for sure. But things like that. We have
plenty of people that can help you with.

Speaker 2 (48:22):
Your write it because that's the thing. Because that's why.
Let me just create this space, a safe space for
people getting.

Speaker 3 (48:30):
You know, there is nothing like that, so this would
be something that's there is a market for.

Speaker 2 (48:35):
That's that's why.

Speaker 4 (48:36):
So that's why I'm so locked in, or that's why
I was like, people don't see the vision right now.
But it's like that's totally wrong.

Speaker 3 (48:41):
At this point, you're the perfect person's.

Speaker 1 (48:43):
Gonna be in Dallas.

Speaker 4 (48:45):
Yeah, I'm working on location, like right right now, honestly,
Like I'm not gonna do it in Chicago.

Speaker 1 (48:50):
Why not Chicago.

Speaker 2 (48:52):
I'm just one of those it's so open for sure.

Speaker 4 (48:57):
Yeah, I've been thinking about that. My mom out there
and my son live out there, so I definitely been
I'm not against it, you know what I mean, Okay,
but but I want to definitely put that space together where.

Speaker 1 (49:07):
What does your mom say? Like watching I had to
have a.

Speaker 2 (49:10):
Talk with my mom.

Speaker 4 (49:10):
That was the hardest conversation I had to have. I
had a talk with my mom really before this is
like really before it's where it's at now. But like
when I started seeing it grow, like views getting over
a million views, I'm like, let me call my mom
at this point because I don't know if she happened
to stumble across something on Facebook or but so I
called her and I just told her my vision right,
and I was like, I needed the audience for one,

(49:32):
you know what I mean, for what I'm trying to do,
Like I said with the store, I needed the audience.
And I just told her like, man, you gotta just
trust me. And after I broke everything down to her,
she was just like, well you sounding you got everything
figured out and yeah, And at that moment, I think
that's when she realized, like he's a man now, literally,
and that that was like a few months ago. Was
that was the most I've ever happened, right thirty five,

(49:55):
That was the most I've ever heard my mom so
silent on the phone.

Speaker 2 (49:59):
She didn't say she was just quiet the whole time, literally,
But it was just like my trust me. Anything I've
ever put my mind to, I've been successful, Like just
trust me, you know what I mean?

Speaker 1 (50:12):
And what about your brother, Like damn is he still
yeah yeah.

Speaker 2 (50:19):
Yeah yeah yeah he ain't.

Speaker 4 (50:26):
But no, but like no, but he with it like
everybody him right, like man, man, get your money. But
I've been really The crazy part is I've been really
now more so inspiring a lot of my friends, like
you know, those that still around, like man, and a
lot of them been asking, man, how do you get
to like the initial jump, like the first step? How
do you you know, take that leap? And I was like, man,

(50:47):
for me, I just did it way for fless. I
didn't overthink it. I just got up and just said whatever.

Speaker 2 (50:52):
One day, Yeah, I was.

Speaker 3 (50:53):
The way my only fans.

Speaker 5 (50:55):
A lot of things that happened in my life is
correlated to other events date wise, and may he rest
in peace. But I started my only fans today that
Kobe Bryant passed away. Wow, I was all my college.
It was a Sunday and I was, you know, had
some bills due, and I'm like fuck it. I had
already contemplated and I already had the page started because
Sewana Brooks came on lip service and told us how

(51:16):
much money she was making her own fans. And I
went home and made a page. But I was so
worried about like people think that it's porn and people
going to look at me like this, and I'm a
retired stripper and how am I going to da da da?
But them bills was due and I was like, man,
it was a Sunday, and I was like, fuck it.
I went through my phone and I just found every
new and I put like Cupcake.

Speaker 3 (51:33):
Emotor together and ka emooneys and hearts and.

Speaker 5 (51:35):
Shit, and I posted and maybe with them like three
hours later it did get the biggest times.

Speaker 3 (51:40):
But then but then three.

Speaker 5 (51:42):
Hours there of the whole world of shock by the
loss of Kobe Bryant, all of that was happening that
same exact day. And when I went to sleep, it
was at like eight hundred dollars. When I woke up,
it was like at close to fifteen or twelve something
like that. Fourteen hundred dollars and it's been up.

Speaker 2 (51:56):
That's how I go, man, I.

Speaker 3 (51:59):
Just stay like and then COVID. It was COVID, you know,
and then.

Speaker 2 (52:02):
Yeah, that's know how hit with that, So yeah, for sure,
no shout out like is I created my page in
like twenty twenty, but yeah, twenty twenty, and I was
just doing a light thirst track. I wasn't doing nothing
like now. But then I fell back like I had
my son on the ways. I was like, man, fuck it,
I just left it alone, you know what I'm saying.
And then like I just got back active, like do you.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Think about that too, like one day explaining to your son?
Do you think about that?

Speaker 2 (52:28):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (52:28):
I think about that all the time. But you know,
it's all entertainment, and like I said, like so about
people raising kids, like you know, my son here gonna
love me regardless, you know, and whatever he don't know,
I will teach him. And then another thing like I
learned about with putting those type of videos out whatever
it is, Like I talked a lot of uh, like
some of my retired porn porn friends that was in

(52:48):
the porn industry.

Speaker 2 (52:49):
And it's a ways you can get things with like
publicly removed right because.

Speaker 1 (52:53):
We had ggd R up here and she was talking
about her kids, which she started her only fans and
her kids are a little older now and how she
had to. She was like, I just wanted to tell
them first before anybody. Yeah, I told them and so
that they were able to prepare to have to deal
with whatever other people show.

Speaker 2 (53:09):
But I always look at it like this, like do
you think Kim k kids give a fuck about that
tape with rej.

Speaker 5 (53:17):
No.

Speaker 3 (53:17):
I don't think her kids are to understand.

Speaker 1 (53:20):
Well maybe North, Yeah, I was gonna say North.

Speaker 2 (53:23):
That's how I look at it.

Speaker 1 (53:25):
And you also have to have that. You have to
make sure you can have that kind of for sure.

Speaker 2 (53:28):
But I look at it like that.

Speaker 4 (53:29):
Do you got to think like that doesn't that does
not identify who you are? Like, that's that's the time
in your life when you was at so you do X,
Y and Z.

Speaker 2 (53:37):
I've done I've done that. I lived my life, you
know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (53:39):
It's controlling your own narrative to just.

Speaker 2 (53:43):
That's the best thing you could do at that point.
What can anyone say.

Speaker 1 (53:47):
Right, I mean, I agree with that.

Speaker 6 (53:49):
So only fans is still making that kind of money.

Speaker 2 (53:52):
I mean it's all about so.

Speaker 4 (53:54):
I mean honestly, like, like I first know I wasn't
doing that, but I think by the fact of me
taking advantage of Twitter and like learning like you know
how to move it and like been going super viral,
you know what I'm saying.

Speaker 2 (54:05):
And I think that has a lot to do with it,
because it's like tea. Everybody wants to be nosy and
to tell a friend and tell a friend telephone, you
know what I mean That one friend you tell go.

Speaker 1 (54:12):
Go back because you do really good at post stuff
on Twitter. And then people would be like I need
to go.

Speaker 4 (54:17):
Yeah, make people crazy, clickbait like you know, sometimes a
lot lets stuff sit for a minute, then I take
it off just so they can go really like, you know,
I don't want to give everything, but like the ones
that like the ones that hit like like really nice numbers,
I keep those, but I make people like want to
want to want to see.

Speaker 2 (54:33):
More of it.

Speaker 1 (54:34):
I want to see him.

Speaker 6 (54:34):
You put your trailers on Twitter.

Speaker 2 (54:36):
It's like a movie. It's like it's just like a movie.

Speaker 3 (54:39):
Like you ain't going to the Man's trailer, Twitter fans, You're.

Speaker 2 (54:42):
Not going, Yeah, you're not going to a movie. But
I've seen the trailer.

Speaker 1 (54:45):
All right, Well listen for Thank you so much for
coming here. I know it's been a long time coming.
No pun intended, because we've seen that long time coming.

Speaker 2 (54:53):
You have, but.

Speaker 3 (54:55):
Take a long time.

Speaker 2 (54:57):
If it's on the partner. I'm saying, I'm hard to please.
I tell them right away.

Speaker 1 (55:01):
Market he said, your heart to please please insatiable like
a lot of work.

Speaker 4 (55:06):
You gotta know you, guys, I mean, you gotta know
what you're doing. You know what I'm saying, Like my partner,
of course, you know what's up, Like like yeah, if
we in the the three something and the girls just doing.

Speaker 1 (55:14):
Something slight, I was like, man, you take honey packs.

Speaker 2 (55:17):
You know, I don't. I try once. I'm not a
big fan of that. I mean, I thank god I
don't need that.

Speaker 1 (55:24):
Can see that ship.

Speaker 2 (55:26):
Honestly, I'm a person I like to have sex morning morning.
So in the morning, I turned up at night time,
I do the morning. I'm really I'm a morning sex person.
Starting person.

Speaker 4 (55:35):
Like now you got to think I'm I'm already a
little sleepy. I'm like, I hadn't been up all day.

Speaker 1 (55:39):
I like nighttime. I like to do it at night
and they go to sleep.

Speaker 2 (55:42):
I like morning, you know, I mean I any time
that there we go.

Speaker 1 (55:47):
Actually, I like to cut gets me energy in the morning.

Speaker 4 (55:50):
Like I don't know, I was more turned off, make
me more tired. Yeah, I'm like, I'm like, I'm like
a I'm like a charge up I phone in the morning,
I felt like, yeah, I don't want to give you
my my love battery.

Speaker 1 (56:03):
Do you cut? You like to cuddle?

Speaker 2 (56:04):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (56:05):
Yeah, see that's what I like nineteen because I like
to have sex and then cuddle.

Speaker 2 (56:08):
After, especially after sex.

Speaker 1 (56:11):
That's the best.

Speaker 10 (56:12):
I like to initially but then keeping the leg off me,
like you know, I want to sleep.

Speaker 1 (56:17):
I like to fall asleep, like you know, to wake
up like that I'll be and and everything.

Speaker 5 (56:24):
My god, I woke up in my finance's arms the
first night you slept together, and it was amazing.

Speaker 2 (56:29):
So you love love met out here?

Speaker 3 (56:32):
You no really quick because I know it's trying to
wrap up. But what was today? July twenty six?

Speaker 6 (56:39):
I think just tell the story July week that part
of it important, is important?

Speaker 1 (56:45):
The timeline three weeks. Yeah, July fifth, we met, July fifteenth,
we went on our first date. July eighteenth, we decided
to get married twenty if I made the announced today,
what are you waiting for? That's the end of the day.
What are you waiting for? And I woke up the
thirty minutes into the first day, He's like, God sent
you to me. You are the woman I prayed for.

(57:06):
You are a woman that I met in my life.

Speaker 10 (57:08):
I can't argue with God.

Speaker 3 (57:09):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:11):
By the end of the night we were exchanging I
love you. I woke up the next morning with two
big ass high school hickeys on my neck.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Wow.

Speaker 9 (57:17):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (57:18):
The next morning after that, I woke up with him
eating my pussy his blessing.

Speaker 1 (57:21):
There we go, blessing him. Got shout out to my
man all right before, Thank you again so much. We
really do appreciate you. This is We've been wanting to
do this for quite some time.

Speaker 2 (57:33):
Made it for sure. Thank you.

Speaker 1 (57:35):
I would like to see you in this space.

Speaker 3 (57:37):
Can't wait to see what's next.

Speaker 1 (57:39):
Come okay, Well for played, poor play. Make sure you
guys listen to for play.

Speaker 2 (57:45):
Absolutely all right.

Speaker 6 (57:46):
He's definitely prelated. Why are you listening to place?

Speaker 3 (57:49):
There?

Speaker 1 (57:50):
Got slip service.