Does Jared Leto Ruin Everything?? (ForAllNerds NYCC Recap & Reactions)

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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, fan fam.

Speaker 2 (00:01):
On this episode, we recap New York Comic Con twenty
twenty five. We also talk about the dangers of AI
and why Jared Leto ruins.

Speaker 3 (00:12):
Everything and What's up and welcome back to another episode
of the four All Nerds Show. It's your boy, DJ
Ben I Mean aka buzz Auchi method Man explaining Meek

(00:35):
Millhouse Lebron shame. Keep that same inner John when you
see me. Back into spaceship and as always, I'm.

Speaker 2 (00:43):
Joined by Tatiana King, They Grand Duchess of Tech also
known as Gucci Mang, the Loreon, Glorilla Rod Flex Luthor
Doctor doing something strange for some change.

Speaker 1 (00:53):
The Wicked Witch of the West View, Tatiana Kang the Conqueror,
and the Ting of the North mm.

Speaker 3 (00:59):
Hmm, And welcome back everyone. Hope you had a great weekend.
Hope everything is doing fantastic out there for you and
your life. You know, everyone's living a good life, smiling,
being happy and enjoying every moment and all that. It's
been an up and down week. I mean life is

(01:19):
like that in general, but it's been crazy.

Speaker 4 (01:22):
Actually.

Speaker 3 (01:22):
One of the listeners even messaged me this week and
was asking you how I was holding up, you know,
because they were like, yo, it must have been a
real emotional week for you, And yeah, it definitely has
a shout out to everyone, and I mean everyone who
is at New York Comic Con this weekend, because my god,

(01:44):
it was a lot of up in that joint.

Speaker 4 (01:47):
Man. I have to say, I feel like a lot.

Speaker 3 (01:49):
Of people obeyed our video where you know, they paid
attention to deodorant and shout out to Dove handing out
these joints at the con because the funk wasn't, you know,
as bad as it could be, you know.

Speaker 2 (02:06):
I mean I didn't get to walk around too too much,
but I didn't I didn't tell anything on towards I
didn't smell any rightness.

Speaker 3 (02:11):
Yeah, but given our like proximity people, you know, like
we didn't have to walk around for people to you know,
be up on us.

Speaker 4 (02:17):
Because they was up on us.

Speaker 3 (02:19):
And you know, I didn't remember being like, oh my god,
you know at any moment, you know.

Speaker 4 (02:25):
So that worked out.

Speaker 3 (02:26):
Shout out to people paying attention to you know, the
rules of comic Con and Duve for handing out these
spray joints everywhere you went.

Speaker 4 (02:33):
I took home mad at these joints. Boy, you know
what I mean?

Speaker 2 (02:37):
Yeah, I think that was maybe I think you said
that that was probably our tenth year at comic con or.
I mean it could be more at this point, but more.
But the point is it was an incredible comic con.
It was different. We actually had a booth. We actually
shared the booth with creator and drer Rose Washington. Shout
out to her, big buddy with you. You guys are so

(02:57):
much fun, so we appreciate you. Make sure you check
out her work for real. She got some incredible some
credible books. The overall convention was as mentioned, it was different.
Like we've always attended the convention as press, so we've
always been doing interviews and we still and I still
g got to do a lot a little bit of
that while I was there, but it was primarily just

(03:19):
press work and then you kind of just sitting around
looking at things.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
Right whereas I.

Speaker 2 (03:24):
Was, we were we as a unit because the whole
fan family was there. But we were working hard when
it comes to speaking to everybody, telling everybody about the show,
the brand, and a lot of you came through, and
appreciate you for coming through.

Speaker 1 (03:39):
Y'all bought merch.

Speaker 2 (03:40):
Y'all bought Ben's book, and it was an incredible exciting time.
Like I it was a high energy and I'm not
like the most I know people can't tell. They're like, well,
you're in the podcast, you're always out there and stuff.
I'm like, but I actually it's a lot to talk
to people. But because y'all was there for us, we
had to be there for you. So we was on

(04:00):
every single day and just talking to everybody. We also
were interviewed ourselves a few times that I mean came and.

Speaker 1 (04:07):
Cosplayed at Swagger Lactis.

Speaker 4 (04:16):
I think.

Speaker 2 (04:18):
Cosplay name, so you know, he was wearing his custom
glack this headpiece along with his track suit and his
chains and rings and that was fire.

Speaker 1 (04:28):
And for many years I have.

Speaker 2 (04:30):
Been felt falling into the I guess the funk of
being jaded by NYCC because it was kind of the
same thing all the time.

Speaker 1 (04:36):
It's just like you're grinding with.

Speaker 2 (04:38):
Interviews and then like it's just walking all over the
fucking building.

Speaker 1 (04:42):
This time it was different. It was a different vibe,
it was different energy, and it was good. It was
good for us. And as I.

Speaker 2 (04:48):
Mentioned, like y'all really showed out and appreciate everyone who
actually listened, came by the booth. We told y'all, We
was like, you're gonna be there, come by the booth,
say hello, tell us at your listeners, let's take pictures.
And so many y'all did just that. So if you
haven't already, make sure you post and tag us. I
know a lot of people have already done that. But
if you haven't yet, please post and tag the pictures

(05:09):
you took with us, like it's not too late.

Speaker 3 (05:11):
No, definitely not shout out to the shorty who want
biased and said, I wasn't even gonna stop say anythingt
and I listened to you all the time.

Speaker 1 (05:20):
And listen, I understand not everybody. I'm going personality.

Speaker 3 (05:24):
You just said it. You don't like to talk to
people either. So she was the same way, you know,
but she did talk.

Speaker 2 (05:30):
To well, I just do it anyway because it has
to be done right. A lot of people will not
do it anyway. They're like, oh no, So I understand
that overcoming, especially if you're an introvert. I understand trying
to overcome that. At the same time, you came there
for a reason, right, You came there to have a
good experience. You came there to see people or things
in person that you would not be able to see otherwise,
so you should capitalize on that, even if it's in

(05:52):
your own way. I'm not saying you got to jump
out there and do TikTok videos with us. I'm just saying, like,
say hello, you know, well, even if hey, I listen
to y'all, I love y'all, like say it, like let
it be known because y'all came to for reasons.

Speaker 4 (06:05):
But I do.

Speaker 2 (06:06):
I am glad that that person you mentioned did actually
speak up. You know, maybe it took maybe it took
a three chares, but she actually came over and said
what's up. So again, I just really felt humbled, and
it was lots of like love and respect and saying
back to everybody else for showing up and as mentioned,
for really supporting us.

Speaker 1 (06:25):
Y'all really supported our booth. Y'all really supported.

Speaker 2 (06:28):
All of the work that we have been doing and
our presence there, and also shout out to all the
new people. There were so many new people we met
that didn't know that we exist and didn't know what
we do, and then when we told them, they were like, oh,
like that's what I've been looking for we wanted to
talk about Game of Thrones or this, that and the third,
but haven't had the right people to talk about it with, right, haven't.

Speaker 1 (06:50):
I haven't had black people.

Speaker 2 (06:51):
That cool black people to talk about it with, Like
sometimes that was the answer, that was the answers we
were getting. So this is this is what we do
and shout outs loose to everybody.

Speaker 3 (07:01):
Yeah, no, definitely, And like you said, sometimes you can
get a little jaded doing cons over and over again
because they can't be a bit of the same thing
every time, especially us when we were doing a lot
of interviews and it was the same. Even though that's
not the same thing every time, we shouldn't be jaded
about that, and we're meeting all these different people. But

(07:22):
it's more just how you say, the running around and
the hours you have to put into the con, and
even though now we're putting in more hours. I definitely
enjoyed the last two years more than any other years
that I've been at New York Comic Con, except for
that one year when I got to cosplay as a
Nintendo Easy because that was just such a great day.

(07:44):
I feel like cosplays are something that I definitely want
to do more of because it's so much fun every time.
It's just also a lot of work. Shout out to
all the cost players who really put in that work,
because man, it was work. Everybody's been talking about the
Big Alastis. I got sent to videos a big Alatis today.

(08:05):
I saw that it costs that dude, the owner of
the company's thirty.

Speaker 1 (08:12):
I mean he actually passed right by our booth, which
was crazy.

Speaker 3 (08:16):
Yeah, big passed by and then you weren't there for
when dude in Red and Bumblebee came by and got
into a massive was not massive, but a nice little
argument dead front.

Speaker 1 (08:31):
Like that's another thing. I don't know what Kat Williams.

Speaker 2 (08:34):
Portal was open in front of our booth, but it
just felt like every major photo op, every argument, every
everything kept happening in front of our people would stop
right in front of it. And also we were where
we're positioned. It's in a a very heavily traffic thoroughfare
between both sides of the show floor, so maybe and

(08:55):
we were literally like equidistant from from that, from that
from either that wo so as.

Speaker 1 (09:02):
Mentioned whatever portal was was there, whatever what do they
say in in uh in Star Wars, they said, uh.

Speaker 2 (09:11):
The well, the well of the well of the Force,
so whatever they called it, right, like, there was.

Speaker 1 (09:16):
Something there that was drawing everyone there, and I hey,
it was.

Speaker 2 (09:20):
Good for us because it was just letting us see
things that we probably would have never seen any other time.

Speaker 1 (09:25):
And it was just again just giving us more.

Speaker 2 (09:28):
Exposure to So shout out to everybody who was arguing
in front of our booth.

Speaker 1 (09:32):
You know, we appreciate you.

Speaker 2 (09:33):
Speaking of argument, Shout out to everybody who participated in
our questions are apparently life threatening questions that we were
posting because we had a whiteboard up in front of
our booth and every maybe hour we would have another
question up where we would say, you know how everyone
knows we do the brat questions, right, you pick one
or the other.

Speaker 1 (09:53):
Well one of the questions. Some of the questions were like, uh,
zen Itsu versus Okarun more.

Speaker 4 (10:00):
Of a battle Royale, like.

Speaker 2 (10:02):
Sure, yeah versus Okarun, Sale Moon versus Goku, Batman versus
iron Man like these are some This is just some
of the questions that we were asking. But again, every
about every hour we were putting some new questions up
and asking people to stop and vote and the arguments
that were occurring. Shout out again to Andrea Rose Washington,
who was first of all, doing voter suppression.

Speaker 1 (10:24):
You were engaging in voter suppression.

Speaker 2 (10:26):
We had a poll that said tough versus Magneto, and
when people would come over and try to say they
peace about, like, for example, why they want Magneto, she
would argue them down, talking about, no, it should be
tall and this is why. And it was funn it
was all it was all love, right, but it was
just so funny how passionate everyone was. And even I
got passionate about a few other questions that were up there,

(10:48):
but it was so good to see that energy from everybody.

Speaker 3 (10:51):
Yeah, we didn't even get to get the one that
had me and Ben arguing to death about Superman versus Goku,
because you know, I would here no Superman slander ever,
and yeah he whooped gokus, I don't want to hear it.
And also I felt that Sailor Moon would really whoop
his ass.

Speaker 4 (11:10):
And I just didn't.

Speaker 1 (11:11):
I mean, that is misogyny, because that's how I felt.

Speaker 2 (11:14):
It's just rooting the misogyny, and it's rooted in and
hyper masculinity. Where like, whoa, he's this muscular guy that
does this and that and has powers and he defeated
birds or whatever the fuck y'all don't understand the history though, Yeah.

Speaker 3 (11:26):
Because on the low, I take Sailor over Superman because
Sailor Moon that's magic, right, she.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
Has the power to reconstitute the universe, but she has
and destroy it.

Speaker 4 (11:36):
It's through like magical.

Speaker 1 (11:37):
Means magical girl quote unquote. Sure, yeah, that's the genre.

Speaker 3 (11:41):
She got it there because that that Superman's big weakness.
That's what a lot of people don't know. It's a
big weakness and the magic.

Speaker 1 (11:47):
So that Tana got one up on him.

Speaker 3 (11:50):
Oh yeah, Satana definitely is running up. I mean, the
thing is he's still Superman, so you know, you can
probably move fast.

Speaker 2 (11:55):
He could bobby break your neck before you get that.

Speaker 3 (12:02):
But the thing is, all you got to say is stop,
you know, in reverse, and that don't take long to say,
you know, kill yourself, you know, say so it's like
you better be quit super Man because otherwise it's tight.

Speaker 4 (12:19):
You know. Yeah, the time I definitely got his ass,
I guess.

Speaker 2 (12:22):
But but that was fun and that's something like we
would will do again, Like anytime we have like if
we're we're at a con or have a lot of event,
will probly do that again because again, it just showed
the energy about what we bring when we our podcast.
It shows the energy about how we engage with everybody,
and it just shows like how much everyone cares about
fandom and it was fun.

Speaker 1 (12:41):
So I really, I really liked that we did that.

Speaker 2 (12:44):
And again, just shouts to everybody who participated. That was
I mean, some of the votes were insane and there
was a lot of you voting.

Speaker 4 (12:51):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (12:51):
Shout outs to the hot Flips booth who was directly
across from us, and hot Flips is the people who
you buy.

Speaker 4 (12:57):
They sell all the covers for posters.

Speaker 3 (13:00):
Is anything you buy at the con, they got a
cover for it, and they were quite engaged from across
the way they were. They were also like ms Washington,
they had a lot of opinions. They were even offering
ideas for verses and everything. So I love to see it,
love to see everybody, you know, getting what we are getting.

(13:20):
What for all nerds is all about. It was really
that was also one of my favorite themes is like
you said, there was a lot of people who probably
had no idea who we were. And then they walked
up and they see, you know, Gucci Mandalori and they
see the Con exclusive Flex Luthor shirt.

Speaker 4 (13:37):
They saw the.

Speaker 2 (13:39):
Way guys coming up. It's coming up on the site soon,
Flex Luthor.

Speaker 3 (13:44):
Yeah, and we also need some three X and four
X as we were told on the site in general.

Speaker 1 (13:50):
Beacon, I got three x X money.

Speaker 3 (13:51):
Hey, we gonna have to do it because we got
big boys, you know, big boys and big girls out there.

Speaker 1 (13:55):
Y'all got three x YX money. Just y'all got McDonald's money.

Speaker 3 (13:59):
Look biggs out, but you know they got them they
buying their shirts.

Speaker 4 (14:05):
I already said big girls, big boys, you know.

Speaker 1 (14:08):
But bighams is just another level of disrespect.

Speaker 4 (14:13):
You know. Slim little rooms, big rooms. You know, we
got the size of frall.

Speaker 2 (14:19):
Okay, and make sure y'all are locked into our socials
because we've been dropping well definitely, Ben I mean and
the four our Nerds accounts have been dropping videos, reels,
tiktoks of.

Speaker 1 (14:32):
Our time there at Comic Con. So you'll get to
see that.

Speaker 2 (14:35):
Ben Hamen has one out now where he basically shows
almost everyone he interacted with when he was Waggle Actus
you see him dancing all in the video, you see
him posting up with.

Speaker 4 (14:46):
With the kids.

Speaker 3 (14:47):
Hold up all right, First of all, that was one
of my favorite things. And I can't wait for Halloween
now because now that I know how swaggle At just
goes over with the kids, I cannot wait for Halloween.
But there was this little Joker and little Batman together,
and the little Joker in the picture together is imitating
the B two fist hand you know gesture that I

(15:11):
was doing for all the pictures.

Speaker 4 (15:13):
And my heart, folks, like that was.

Speaker 3 (15:16):
Just you know what I mean, just all those little
kids because some of these little kids, I had no
idea how big Galactus is with Thomlins, like, well, they don't.

Speaker 2 (15:28):
Know who the fuck he is, but they do know
something that to to like a Tyler, a three year
old's not Gonnassary or a four year old or whatever.

Speaker 1 (15:35):
You're sitting with Tyler. They don't know what what exactly
he is, but they know that they're drawn to it.

Speaker 3 (15:40):
Yeah, but they knew his name, and every day, you know,
they're like a Lattis, you know. They those kids were
older than three, but three or four. Yeah, but I'm like,
there was a couple of kids who their parents were like, no,
the Laptus is his favorite character, and I'm.

Speaker 4 (15:54):
Like, yo, you're not good.

Speaker 1 (15:55):
I wonder if they saw like Fantastic four.

Speaker 4 (15:57):
Oh yeah, of course, yeah, I.

Speaker 3 (15:59):
Get it because it's like, you know, six, when I
was six, I was you know, I'd be like this
random Star Wars is my favorite character, so it'd be
the same thing.

Speaker 5 (16:08):
You know.

Speaker 3 (16:08):
It's just right now, Marvel's big, so there's going to
be a kid assessed with Galactus, which is still crazy
to me.

Speaker 4 (16:14):
But it was so awesome. Yeah, no sweat.

Speaker 3 (16:17):
Just that day being Galatus was one of my favorite
days in any con.

Speaker 4 (16:22):
The whole con was great.

Speaker 3 (16:24):
It's always great seeing people I swear and I'm so
mad that it's just one of them things that's kind
of impossible for me to get the reactions. But every
time I've ever told someone Jimmy Hendrix in Space about
Jimmy Hendrix Purple Haze and seeing their faces light up
is just one of the greatest moments ever and I

(16:44):
will always appreciate it and super appreciate all the different
people who came out and bought the book and got
a copy, and even if you didn't buy it, just
sat there and listened to me tell you about Jimmy
Hendrix Space, which is really amazing, and.

Speaker 4 (16:58):
Thank you to all y'all.

Speaker 3 (17:00):
Definitely, besides that, you know, there was some news and
trailers and various things going on in New York Comic Con,
as there always are, like a Danna said, we were
mainly at our booth. We did a couple of interviews
that you'll be seeing coming out soon. But was there
any news that you've heard since you know, you got
out of there that drop that you were you know,

(17:21):
hyped about or anything.

Speaker 2 (17:23):
I don't know if hype but interested or moldly intrigued.
So the wonder Man trailer was out, came out yah
y'abdu mateen the second he was actually at Comic Con
along with some a few other people from the show
actually promoting it and then as mentioned that the trailer drops.
So I don't know much about wonder Man, but from

(17:44):
the backstory that I do know, Jess and from what
they're positioning this show, I seems like the position to
show to be is like the actor before he got
the powers, So like.

Speaker 4 (17:56):
It's all talk more about.

Speaker 3 (17:57):
It, But yeah, you've seen the trail yeah, okay, all right, Well,
wonder Man from the comics is a character named Simon Williams.

Speaker 4 (18:05):
He's a white dude.

Speaker 3 (18:06):
As you see in the movie trailer that they are
like the old movie that they show that white dude
is wearing the green and red costume with a big
w that's one of wonder Man's costumes. Long story short,
wonder Man is a He's Simon Williams. He's an engineer
and a industrialist who's like a rival of Tony Starks.

(18:29):
And in this rivalry he gets involved with the some villains,
some super villains, and they give him powers where he
becomes wonder Man. One of the powers, he's indestructible. He's
super strong. He's fused with what they call in the
comics ionic energy, and so he eventually becomes a being
of pure energy and a bunch of other stuff, but

(18:50):
for most of it he's super strong and indestructible. You know,
he's wonder Man, right, And he fights the Avengers and
dies like pretty much immediately in.

Speaker 4 (18:59):
His first battle. And I guess, so I didn't know
that happened, depict.

Speaker 2 (19:08):
No, I mean, if you really want to say a
Caather that happens to on a frequent basis.

Speaker 1 (19:12):
Yamcha, Okay, it's TBZ. You don't fuck with disease like that.

Speaker 3 (19:16):
I'm not like that, but whatever, I get it. He
fights Avengers and lays it down. And while did the
Avengers on, an ultron comes along and takes his brain
copy of his brain pattern and creates the vision. And
so the vision in the comics has Simon Williams' brain
patterns whatever you know, whatever that is. Eventually, Simon Williams

(19:39):
comes back and joins the Avengers and goes on to
have a long career as one of the Avengers. And
like I said, he's made of energy, where first he
has super strengthen and vernability, but eventually he becomes a
dude who can fly and a bunch of other stuff
just through his energy. But the one they show in
the trailer is the original one of the Man where

(20:00):
he's this super strong dude who's a vulnerable and has
a jetpat.

Speaker 4 (20:03):
To fly around.

Speaker 2 (20:05):
And as mentioned, the show is taking things differently, Like yeah,
in the trailer, it's so funny.

Speaker 1 (20:12):
They even made like a they broke the fourth word
a little bit.

Speaker 2 (20:15):
They made a joke about what's his face that was
a terrorist in Uh iron Man three.

Speaker 1 (20:21):
Kingsley, Sir Ben Kingsley plays Trevor what yeah whatever, but
he he was, He's in the he's in the show
and like and they even like, as I mentioned, he
even referenced him. Wasn't he he used to be a terrorist?

Speaker 4 (20:34):
Yes? Yeah, because he was.

Speaker 1 (20:36):
And it's like it's like some ship that would be
on Apple TV.

Speaker 2 (20:43):
That's the vibe I'm getting from it, Like it's like
one of those it's not it's not a drama, it's
not a comedy. It's just like and it's it's like
shot like a period it's shot like it's in his
seventies or something like that, but parts.

Speaker 1 (20:58):
Parts of it.

Speaker 2 (20:58):
But from what I saw, it looked like it was
a little bit back in the day or it could
it just be like it has that high eight look
like it just could be the treatment that they did
to the film but to the video rather. But again,
it's just like I'm not sure what this tone is,
but it definitely looks like something that would appear on appltude,
Like it's in the same vein of like you ain't
never seen a show like this before, like kind of

(21:20):
like how Severance was for me when I first watched it.
I'm just like, Oh, that's different how they're going about it.
And it's also different for me in terms of a
Marvel property, like which is great that they're trying to
do something different. I also don't know if I get it,
and maybe I have to watch the show to get it,
but I don't know if I quite get it, and
what their reasonings were for doing this property. And it

(21:41):
wasn't a it wasn't news like we knew years ago
because it was on the timeline. It was in the
if you want to, you know, D twenty three a
day like that, they tell you that it's coming. But
it's just like, what is the reason, what is a
justification for this character and this approach?

Speaker 4 (21:56):
Yeah, this approach. And then I saw someone.

Speaker 2 (21:59):
On this character too because I hear what you just
said about who he is, what he does, and I'm like, Okay, well, no.

Speaker 3 (22:04):
Wonder Man in the comics is definitely a character that
I could see being used on, you know, in the MCU.

Speaker 4 (22:13):
It's just this.

Speaker 1 (22:14):
Approach in what way?

Speaker 4 (22:17):
But if they if.

Speaker 3 (22:18):
They've gone about it like the way that he is
in the comics, and that's the problem you already have
a vision now that's just a little late.

Speaker 1 (22:25):
But what about him is like stand out?

Speaker 2 (22:28):
Like, oh, like, first of all, and I'm not gonna
be a hater shout out to y'a y'all doing a
teen like the second get your money, I'm and him
aside the character, I was just like, what about that
character was so intriguing? That was like, we want to
do a whole show centered around him.

Speaker 3 (22:41):
Yeah, I don't get it this approach again, But if
you connect them to the Vision, there's a lot of
intriguing and a lot of storylines there. Him and Division,
him and Starlti Witch have this whole love triangle you
know going on. It was you know, they're brothers, but
they both love the same woman. It was interesting this approach.
I don't know. Now people have said online that what

(23:01):
we see in the trailer is probably from the early episodes,
and maybe y'all y'all actually does have powers and we're
just not seeing that yet potentially.

Speaker 4 (23:10):
Yeah, yeah, and I still don't know. It's just it's
really interesting.

Speaker 3 (23:14):
To me that this is coming out, and then Spider
Man is coming out.

Speaker 2 (23:19):
Vision Quest is going to be coming out somewhat soon too.
And it's and it's supposed to be positioned a year
after the events of Wanda Vision.

Speaker 3 (23:26):
Okay, and this is definitely after everything because like we said,
you know, he's being referred to as a former terrorist,
so all that's happened. I don't know how this and
Spider Man and we do. I don't know when Vision
Quest is coming out right now, it's.

Speaker 4 (23:42):
Not like yeah, but doesn't say win yeah, and.

Speaker 3 (23:47):
Right now Spider Man and then Avengers is how it
is right now with this today, Yeah, yeah, Wonder Man,
Spider Man, Avengers.

Speaker 4 (23:59):
It just doesn't feel like enough build up right now.

Speaker 1 (24:01):
It's I don't know, it's just weird. And then you
also have.

Speaker 2 (24:04):
Just in terms of all the news is be coming out,
and you have Channing Tatum hype in Doomsday because they've
recently just finished this rap filming. So it's just like
y'all not ready, y'all not ready. And y'all know Channon
is a super fan.

Speaker 1 (24:16):
You know.

Speaker 2 (24:16):
He obviously got to reprise his role as Gambit, which
I love, like I just want him to always just
be that character, like you know, oh boy made a
name for myself, like let him cook. I love that
shit that said I don't get the inter correlation between
all of these different properties. Not to say that I
have to get it, because for all I know, they
got you know, they're doing a hat trick.

Speaker 1 (24:38):
They're gonna pull a hat trick and go go wild
on us.

Speaker 2 (24:40):
But right now, Marvel's a little down bad, especially compared
to the renaissance as DC is having when it comes
to movies and TV.

Speaker 4 (24:49):
Anyway, So yo, it's crazy though.

Speaker 3 (24:51):
I saw people hating on the Piecemaker finalite, like, oh man,
the opposite reaction that.

Speaker 1 (24:59):
I and that's fair.

Speaker 4 (25:02):
Yeah. Also, it was just.

Speaker 3 (25:04):
Like our Him review where everything I read I was like, well,
I can't argue that I agree, Like yeah, I was
like I loved it, but I get why you hate it.

Speaker 1 (25:18):
And weeks later I still love Him. One of the
funniest fucking movies ever.

Speaker 4 (25:23):
Made, and I still fully understand why people hate.

Speaker 1 (25:25):
It, just like oh yeah, no sense.

Speaker 4 (25:29):
Yeah, it's like the Peacemaker Finale.

Speaker 3 (25:31):
There was like two full on music videos in it,
and James Dunn's taste in music is questionable at best.

Speaker 1 (25:37):
Yeah, I don't. I think that's why I don't know anyway.

Speaker 2 (25:43):
Yeah, as far as like news that came out I
mean like George R. Dr Martin was there to get
to see him, but he was there. We talked about
him before Maslani was there. I also feel this com
coom was a little light on, like news like shit
that's like holy shit, and it kind of reminded me

(26:05):
of like what happened to s DCC, where it's just
like it also felt kind of light like I know,
like a lot of the big names weren't really and
they haven't for many years now, but it was like
really noticeable. I feel this this year for both San
Diego and New York, where it was just like since
these big publishers kind of do their own announcements and
reveals throughout the year on their own time and their

(26:27):
own big events, like they don't really get the same
play that they used to to the comic cons. You know,
certain things here and there, but like I just felt
like it wasn't as wasn't.

Speaker 1 (26:36):
As ops as these reveals and panels normally are.

Speaker 4 (26:41):
It's also feel.

Speaker 3 (26:42):
Like that it's also like the timing right, like Peacemaker
just ended right before the con super Girls and ready
for them to show off anything like that Avengers same thing.
They're not gonna show off anything. You know, they're not
dropping the trailer when they have to drop a wonder
Man trailer, so not gonna squash their own trailer right there.

(27:03):
And so it's just that's that's the bit. Those are
the two ones, and then the rest of it is
a bunch of random movies that you know. I saw
Chris Pratt drop the New Joint, and I'm like, you know,
I saw Chris Pratt and I was like, okay, whatever,
all I care about that when the time comes, I'm
not gonna watch the trailer for that right now, Like, no,
it's Chris Pratt. And then there was another There was

(27:25):
a I think it might be a little bit extended
trailer for Predator bad Lands, but I'm already sold on that,
you know, I don't need anymore to see anything from that.
So I didn't watch that as well because I already
want to see that. And yeah, it's it was just timing.
I think I think it's been timing.

Speaker 2 (27:41):
But it also happened in San Diego, where that's it's timing.

Speaker 4 (27:46):
And what you said that they have their own events.

Speaker 3 (27:48):
You know, D twenty three is where they're gonna drop
Avengers Doom say, that's where they're.

Speaker 2 (27:53):
Really gonna and you know that this year, so it
is already passed, but like that's where they're really gonna
go ham as they do.

Speaker 1 (27:58):
You know, that's where they revealed Artie J and everybody else.

Speaker 3 (28:02):
Yep, And that's when probably dropped the trailer because that's
next year, because I think Doomsday is going to come
out like either before or right during.

Speaker 5 (28:11):
The move.

Speaker 3 (28:12):
You're right, they moved into December. Oh shit, so both
of these times were past.

Speaker 2 (28:17):
Yeah Avengers, they're supposed to drop December eighteenth, twenty twenty six.

Speaker 3 (28:21):
Oh yeah, you're right, so they both there will yeah,
set up probably drop a trailer at San Diego.

Speaker 4 (28:27):
And like something else.

Speaker 1 (28:28):
Is maybe something huge will happen in New York because
it's close enough.

Speaker 4 (28:33):
Yeah maybe. I mean both of those are probably gonna
be pretty lit the next year.

Speaker 3 (28:38):
Yeah, Supergirl and yeah yeah.

Speaker 1 (28:41):
And then also like even the layout of New York
Comic Co.

Speaker 2 (28:44):
Just to kind of close this conversation out, even layout
with you com kom was different and like noticeably, like
certain big booths that are normally in like the same
places every year for ten years straight were like either
nowhere to be found, or relegated to the corners. Like
for example, like we talked about the pop Vinyl booths,
it's usually in that scene. It's usually in the same
spot every single year, like right when you first walk

(29:05):
onto the show floor from the thirty fifth Street entrance,
and they were like way off in the cut. Maybe
maybe right where or maybe that was strategic to like
try to not like have this huge line of people,
not that that ever.

Speaker 4 (29:20):
Stops lines, No that money would pay for that spot.

Speaker 2 (29:26):
DC comments had a booth way in the cut in Narnia,
and it was just like.

Speaker 1 (29:32):
And they chose it right, cause like these aren't.

Speaker 2 (29:34):
Like like little sniveling folks that you know, are begging
for a booth like these, this is whole houses that
got money, and like they chose that, so I, you know,
the presence that the level of presence was was was
to me noticed to be different.

Speaker 4 (29:49):
Mm hm.

Speaker 3 (29:51):
Also, there was some complaints about the movie The Cosplayer,
such an I didn't know where.

Speaker 1 (29:56):
That was, so yeah, that was confusing, Like.

Speaker 4 (30:00):
I never saw the tabletop gaming such.

Speaker 2 (30:04):
That if DC was in Narnia, then tabletop and gaming
all that shit was in Yonkers because fucking up nor Upstate,
because I when I went around, like one of the days,
I actually walked around for about an hour to like
look at all the stuff to buy, and that's when
I accidentally ran into like the tabletop and the.

Speaker 1 (30:24):
Game like the video game systems and stuff like. It was
literally like under and overhang, like it was weird.

Speaker 2 (30:30):
And also they moved them downstairs like that's a nothing.
A lot of people don't realize how big the Javis
Center is.

Speaker 1 (30:35):
It's fucking huge, and they've always had like separation church
and state in some areas. But again, like where they
decided to put.

Speaker 2 (30:45):
People this year was questionable at best because it wasn't
necessarily for some people giving them dedicated space, like cosplayers
should be afforded more respect, right because they're one of
the main reasons why people show up at least that
for me, it generally was it was just like I
want to see how people it's gonna what cave they're
going to do, and how they're going to do it.
I mean, that's how they advertise the convention cosplayers.

Speaker 3 (31:07):
But then the other side of it is I saw
certain cosplayers were happy about that such and because it
has the most natural light and the most bathrooms yeah. Yeah,
So it's like you can't win, yes, and yeah, yeah, yeah,
you can't win. You know, you can't please everybody. That's
the problem.

Speaker 2 (31:22):
There so so positives and negatives you know about NYCC,
But at the end of the day, it was all
positive for us here at for all nerds because we
got to see y'all and y'all got to love on
us and we appreciated.

Speaker 4 (31:35):
Word and that year is the twentieth anniversary.

Speaker 2 (31:37):
Yeah, so that's why we got to be up in
there again. We're going to be in there and making
y'all pull your hair out with these questions again. So
the battle of y'all questions and again we'll be there
with more cool teams and more energy.

Speaker 4 (31:52):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (31:53):
Like we said, it has been a week of ups
and downs and you know that, Like we had New
York Comic Con and then oh man.

Speaker 4 (32:04):
It's so difficult to even talk about this, but this.

Speaker 3 (32:07):
Week the world found out that the artist known as
D'Angelo passed away from pancreatic cancer at the age of fifty.

Speaker 1 (32:17):
One and very young. That's very young.

Speaker 2 (32:21):
And I know the gen zs that listened to the
show are like, oh he was old, No, no, no.

Speaker 1 (32:27):
Four or fourth. That's young, especially to be passing away
for something like that.

Speaker 3 (32:32):
Yeah, it's dumb young and one shout out to his
I think it's a sonny as with Angie Stone who lost.

Speaker 4 (32:39):
Both of his parents in the same year, in.

Speaker 3 (32:42):
The same year, and as someone who's lost both of
their parents in a few years span, it's just unbelievable.
And you know not and I'm not nearly as young
as that young man is.

Speaker 1 (32:52):
So yeah.

Speaker 2 (32:54):
They also there was a video they had of both
because you know, a Nan the Lewis also passed earlier
this year, and there was a video of her interviewing
D'Angelo and like they were just like, I forgot who
posted Oh yeah, Marcus Prie posted it and he was
just like I just looked at it. I was like, damn,
like yeah, and even essence they did a post where,
you know, they were shining light on men's health and

(33:14):
you know, especially black men's health, and they were just
going down the line of like all of these luminaries
and entertainment and music that passed in their you know,
fifties forties for some people like and like I mean, like,
you know, they they mentioned so many people and I
was just really shocked, Like I didn't realize how old
these people were, you know, I'm thinking, oh, like, you know,
you're much advanced age you on some natural causes type shit, No,

(33:39):
notual causes.

Speaker 1 (33:39):
In a way, but like gone way too soon. Yeah,
And how does that affected you then?

Speaker 4 (33:45):
I mean, it's just it's been a lot. Like D'Angelo
is just.

Speaker 3 (33:50):
I mean, he's one of the greatest artists to me
of all time, and it's someone who's like if anyone's
read Purple Haze, you know, a big part of it
is this whole idea of this river of black music,
and I just consider D'Angel to be such an.

Speaker 4 (34:07):
Important part of that river.

Speaker 3 (34:11):
And even more so, it's something I've been realizing a
lot lately that pretty much every major black artist is
a genre into themselves, Like when you get into like
the you know, Miles Davis's, the Jimmy Hendrix to John Coltrane's,
even the people that are less well known like Sugary
Otis or someone who a lot of people know but

(34:32):
don't realize the depth of their music, like Curtis Mayfield.
These people are so tremendous, you know, in of themselves.
And D'Angelo, for only having three studio albums is that
same level. Like I was the person when I first
heard Brown Sugar, and when I realized that Doro was

(34:54):
playing everything and singing everything, I immediately started putting them
in that same category Prince, and I know Prince.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Was a hero of his.

Speaker 3 (35:03):
And then when you hear that first album, it's just
beginning to end pretty much perfect, and then Voodoo is
even better. And Voodoo is just one of those albums
that is it's just the fining, you know.

Speaker 4 (35:18):
It's like you know, pre Voodoo and post Voodoo.

Speaker 3 (35:21):
You know, it's one of those things where it just
changes everything and everyone is influenced by it. And then
it's also so influenced by, you know, the greats, and
he was such a student of the greats, like I
know that he was a big fan of the album
that we based a lot of Purple Haze on is
the band of Gypsy's album.

Speaker 4 (35:43):
And there's just not many people like that, man, you know.

Speaker 3 (35:47):
And in this day and age, it's so hard to
find newer artists who are on that same path, you know.
And it's just because the reality of making music has changed,
change all these different things. But man, he was just
like I hate to say, you know, like the last
of his kind, but he was just one of those ones.

(36:09):
I don't think he was the last kind by any means,
but well of.

Speaker 2 (36:13):
His error, Yeah, not the last, but he's like one
of the I mean what the era he represents like that,
that's literally part of the list of people, like I
mentioned Essence put up that like have generally recently passed,
and it's just like that is like a very specific error.

Speaker 4 (36:32):
Yeah, and even beyond that era.

Speaker 3 (36:34):
It's just he's one of the ones who it's like
Prince is not of any era. Michael Jackson is not
of any era. You know, their shit is timeless. You know,
that's D'Angelo. That's the same thing. You know, it's somebody
who puts so much artistry into their music that it
just stands to test the time that it doesn't sound
like anything from any other time. You know, like Voodoo

(36:56):
didn't sound like anything else, you know, it was Voodoo
that was just so like what the fuck is this
negro On type shit? When that dropped, and then Black
Messiah is the same thing. Like Black Messiah, like people
get mad at that album because you know, they're like,
I can't understand what he's saying, you know, and all
this type of stuff, but everything is so intentionally done and.

Speaker 4 (37:19):
It's such an incredible piece of work.

Speaker 3 (37:22):
Every time, you know, Brown Sugar, like the first album
is just and like I was someone who got to
see him a few times, you know, live, and it
was just unbelievable experience. Every time I was talking about
it on threads. Today there's there's a bootleg of the
whole show between him and Questlove when they were Briton

(37:43):
Bowl and you can literally hear me all over like
I've had people when it was on SoundCloud, people are
leaving comments like Yo, that's DJ Ben. I mean why
when he shut the fuck up type thing, because I
was just in there losing my mind, just you know,
to see that level of artistry, to see that level

(38:03):
of talent. You know, I was at the show he
did Afro Punk, where he did nothing but covers and
he brought Living Color out and people were mad as
hell him because he didn't do any of his own songs,
you know, but it was like that's just the type
of dude he was where it's like, now I'm just
going to come up here and do black music and
show you black music and not even do my own music.

(38:26):
And then I saw him at What's at Sony Hall
in Manhattan where he just right after Black Sida came out,
and he ran through everything, you know, all everything from
Black Messiah to all his hits, to covers to everything.

Speaker 4 (38:41):
You know. It was just like, you know, this dude
is unreal, man.

Speaker 3 (38:45):
Like something I learned yesterday, you know, to bring it
back around to for all nerds. And I didn't even
know that I'd never played Red Dead Redemption too. But
the Anflo has a song on there, Unshaken. Yeah, it's
down to fifteen bucks right now. I'm thinking I'm out
to buy it and go for it.

Speaker 4 (39:03):
It's just such a damn long game.

Speaker 1 (39:04):
But did you listen to watch that scene?

Speaker 3 (39:07):
No?

Speaker 4 (39:07):
I didn't want to watch the scene. I just listened
to the song.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
The song.

Speaker 3 (39:11):
The song is absolutely incredible, first of all, And it
was just bugged me that there are people out there
because I'm on Reddit and there are people who only
know him from that, like they know him from as
this dude who sings the song and read that Redemption too.

Speaker 2 (39:27):
You know that's interesting because there's people who like got
put Onto, like Kendrick Lamark's a GTA.

Speaker 4 (39:32):
I don't like it.

Speaker 1 (39:33):
That's just a guy.

Speaker 2 (39:34):
You know.

Speaker 1 (39:35):
Back in the day I put on the.

Speaker 4 (39:36):
Mad music through GCA, you know, even as a DJ.

Speaker 3 (39:39):
I mean, I knew a lot of it, but there
would always be something I'm like, oh ship, you know,
look at that joint, you know, and I get put
onto it. And as much as I you know, don't
like all of James Dunn's taste, I you know, the
Peacemaker finale made me finally love that song that I
was trying to force on you this weekend.

Speaker 2 (39:57):
This guy Ben I mean, was trying to force this
the the damn Peacemaker me and Joel Actually, yeah.

Speaker 4 (40:03):
Well Joe already knows it.

Speaker 2 (40:04):
Yeah, but you were still forcing on all us because
we both were looking at each other like, please not today, Papa,
we can't listen to this right now.

Speaker 1 (40:11):
Like, I know you love it? Was it the intro song?

Speaker 4 (40:14):
Yeah, it's the season two I know you love it,
but I.

Speaker 3 (40:18):
Said, didn't love it. Yeah, I didn't love it till
all the finale. I hated it throughout all the season two,
and then the finale recontentualized them for me and maybe
love it okay, yeah, But that being said, the Unshaken
from The Red Dead Redemption two is an incredible song,
and it also is one of them songs that shows

(40:39):
you how talented this dude is because as a big
fanity intro, every really sounds a lot different. It's a
very bluesy guitar driven song and tone of voice he's
singing in is I guess it's more Devil's Pie type thing,
but because of Loes the guitar, it doesn't really feel
like Devil's Pie at all. So and it's you know,
he's got a much deeper tone to his voice than

(41:01):
what usually think of that falsetto when.

Speaker 4 (41:04):
You think of the Angelo.

Speaker 3 (41:06):
Oh oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 4 (41:09):
But man like, I could go on forever a dog like.
It's just.

Speaker 3 (41:17):
It just hurts, you know, like to have lost people
like Dyla, shot G, the' Angelo, just people who are
so instrumental in being like what.

Speaker 4 (41:30):
I consider to be music, what I consider to be artists.
Man just the worst.

Speaker 3 (41:37):
Man Like, it just like bothered me so much that like,
like I got to put a tribute to shot G
in Purple Hate, but it's like I didn't give a
direct tribute even though the book is a tribute to
all everyone. You know, it's like I should have somehow
fit something in for d Angelo.

Speaker 6 (41:53):
You know.

Speaker 2 (41:54):
That's look you've said it really earlier, like that that
river of music and all of that encompasses everything which
includes the angel by virtue of his legacy. So yeah,
didn't miss him. He's only that, just like you may
not specially said his name, but he's there. Michael's in there,

(42:15):
Prince is in there. You said Curtis Mayfield, like everything
that really truly encompasses music as a.

Speaker 1 (42:22):
As a force, music as an art form.

Speaker 2 (42:25):
All of those people who are responsible for that happening
are all part of that river. So I believe that
you included him, even if you don't realize that, you
definitely included him.

Speaker 4 (42:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 3 (42:39):
Now, it's just like I said. I know, when I
was writing it, me and Mella were talking about him
because we were talking about how much he was influenced
by being a Gypsy's And then even I remember recenting
somebody sent me a documentary and I was watching about
the making of Voodoo because it's just such a he's
just so different man like, and then I was talking

(43:04):
about this. I have like three mixtapes that I consider
like my you know, the mixtape for I just put
everything into them. All of them have Dangel on it.
Whenever I'm doing one of my major mixtapes, it's like
it's got to have a Dancel song on it. It
just you know, wouldn't feel right without it.

Speaker 2 (43:23):
Oh man, Well, D'Angelo was very much loved all over
all over the world, and rest and power to him.
Resting power is his legacy which will continue to go on.
And you know, you just gotta you just got to
know that he still has left behind all of his

(43:45):
work and that that's never gonna die.

Speaker 4 (43:47):
No.

Speaker 3 (43:48):
No, I've been downloading and listening to everything I can
as much, you know, as much as I knew most
of everything I've heard about him, there's always more to
find that. Yeah, like I said, I never heard that
Unshaken song. I found some random stuff that him requests
loved did together that I got listened to some live joints.

Speaker 4 (44:08):
There's a great live album.

Speaker 3 (44:09):
I've been known about it, but there's a live album
from him from the Jazz Cafe in London where he does.
I've used the jam the shit all the time he
does earth Wind and Fires Can Hide Love and oh man,
he murders it. So go look that up on YouTube
or I think I think that's on streaming services now
because he destroys that, that whole lives that he does

(44:31):
al Green, he does a bunch of other joints and
then a bunch of his own stuff. I think her
is like one of the few other big, big artists
right now.

Speaker 4 (44:39):
Who's playing and singing. You know, it's just so few.

Speaker 1 (44:44):
Man, do you see Beyonce in that category of no.

Speaker 3 (44:48):
I think Beyonce is one of the greatest of all time.
You know, I've said this many a time. You know,
I think you know when you you know, like in
that same you know, I put her out there with anybody,
you know, the Michaels, the Princes.

Speaker 1 (45:01):
Yeah, she she's to.

Speaker 2 (45:02):
Me, she's one of those last, like maybe the last
when it comes to the greats and those that level
of superstardom that is global, that is on a remote island,
people know who.

Speaker 1 (45:15):
That person is type shit like that. That's that's how
Michael Jackson is to this day.

Speaker 4 (45:19):
Yeah, I mean I saw her.

Speaker 1 (45:20):
People don't go to and they're like, yeah, I know
Michael Jackson.

Speaker 3 (45:22):
Yeah, I saw in Ethiopia and I was in Ethiopia
when she did the you know Whole World and the
album drop drop, and it did because I was in
Ethiopia when she dropped Drunk in Love and everybody came
to the club that next night knowing every word to
that goddamn album and I ain't even had a chance
to listen to it yet.

Speaker 4 (45:44):
That stopped the world when she dropped that out.

Speaker 3 (45:47):
So yeah, and beyond that, like, I think her showmanship
and all that is that level the only thing. And
Prince told her about this and she played, you know,
she's learned to play certain stuff. Is like Prince was like,
you got to learn to play, you know, like to
really be that that, you gotta be able to play,
you know. And that's something that I even struggle with.

(46:09):
I don't play like that, and it's like I need
to learn to play better because you know, it's like
that's where it comes from, you know, like it's just
oh man, and yeah, it's just not like we have.
There's a lot of smaller artists who are like that,
but on a large scale, it's very rare now where
before it was so many. You know, pretty much everybody

(46:32):
played some type of instrument and now it's yeh yeah,
and now it's like people are just singing ship and
barely do that.

Speaker 4 (46:44):
Well.

Speaker 3 (46:44):
I saw an Usher struggle through his ship. It was entertaining.
It was like the Hill movie.

Speaker 5 (46:51):
We're not going to talk about Usher.

Speaker 1 (46:53):
That's what we're not going to do today.

Speaker 4 (46:55):
No, I know, and I think I know.

Speaker 3 (46:56):
When Usher is on his game, he is like up there, Beyonce,
my call all that.

Speaker 4 (47:00):
You know.

Speaker 3 (47:01):
When I saw him, it was like, you know, a
three year tour and that man, you know, that man
was showing like yo, it's time to you know, I
need a break, dog like you know, I mean, I
did Vegas for two years and then y'all put me
on the road, like.

Speaker 1 (47:16):
Hain't no, y'all. He put himself on the road.

Speaker 3 (47:18):
That man's ado. That's another thing that I realized that night.
That man is like the evil Peter Pan.

Speaker 4 (47:25):
What he ain't never growing up?

Speaker 1 (47:29):
I mean, he had no no, it's like a forever bachelor,
even though he's married now, but he isn't well married again,
but he's a forever bachelor.

Speaker 3 (47:36):
And not even for bachelor. It's like he is forever
the age when he was discovered fourteen, you know, because.

Speaker 1 (47:42):
You know why, right, it's a darker reason for that.

Speaker 4 (47:45):
And that's that.

Speaker 1 (47:48):
Yeah, that's why I said we're not going to talk
about Yeah, he's been through some things.

Speaker 7 (47:53):
Yeah yeah, oh man, oh man. Yeah yeah.

Speaker 3 (48:03):
I'm really trying to figure out how to segue to
the next topic. Now, we just avoided talk about one
sex pest, and now we're talking about another.

Speaker 6 (48:15):
So yeah, Jaredleto ruins everything apparently, also just ruins every
day apparently.

Speaker 2 (48:28):
Now, first of all, to be clear, like when we
we reviewed Tron last week, we said it was a movie, right,
I still gave it a tomato. I just thought that
it was like, it was entertaining, and.

Speaker 1 (48:40):
It looked really good.

Speaker 2 (48:41):
Aesthetics are incredible effects. The music's really good too, And
that's about it. There's no substance, right, no buttocks and
and and Jody Tony Smith is amazing because I just
I just like her aesthetic, I like how I like energy.
I like the female terminator part of her great in
the movie. Besides that, nothing there and because that there's

(49:05):
and I really blamed Jarrett the movie allegedly made less
than in this opening weekend, then mobius morbus excuse me,
So that saying a lot because Morbus flopped under the jail,
So this shit flopped hard body like.

Speaker 1 (49:28):
Under the prison. Like I don't know. I don't not again,
I don't know.

Speaker 2 (49:33):
Like, first of all, there was nothing against it the
weekend it dropped. As far as I knew, there was
no real competing film against it, which why we was
was confusing to me because I remember when we left
the movie, THEYD realized there was nothing else dropping that weekend,
so we were like, Oh, it's gonna make money because
there's nothing else to see.

Speaker 1 (49:51):
That was wrong Jared Lido. No, No, it's potentially box
of office nuclear waste.

Speaker 3 (50:00):
I mean that goes without saying like the idea that
he was ever a star has never been established, you
know what I mean? Or like someone said, the dude
looks weird. He's stars and box office bombs and he
can't act, and yet studios just keep doing it. And
he also produced this joint, which is one of the
reasons why I got made and why people were saying

(50:24):
that his character went from a villain in versions of
the script to more you know, where he turns into
the hero and goes on this whole hero liable. Also, yeah,
and it was also that was more Jeredlito. And that's
why like the original, well not the original, but the dudes,
because you know what's Olivia Wilde was in the last
one and she's not in this and that's so, you know,

(50:47):
I mean, I would have rather seen him.

Speaker 1 (50:48):
I didn't watch.

Speaker 4 (50:49):
I didn't either. I didn't.

Speaker 3 (50:50):
I'm you know, I'm saying this from you know, people
saying on the internet. Yeah, but Olivia Wilde and the
other dude, the main dude is he's a much bigger
star as well. Now, so I don't know his name,
you know, which may from a legacy random white boys.

Speaker 1 (51:04):
Oh, oh, the one that they can't make the movie
off of No More. I don't know.

Speaker 2 (51:07):
It's just I don't know, but they and they tried
real hard and like again maybe this is Jared's fault,
but they tried real hard to like they inserted enough
of the entire Tron universe to try to make aries
fit this film a fit, which it did. But then
they try to force the good old Oh, we're gonna
make a sequel.

Speaker 1 (51:26):
Like they Tron may never see the light of day.

Speaker 4 (51:30):
No, it's decade.

Speaker 3 (51:32):
No, it's not going to happen in general, I don't
think it's going to happen in the next twenty years.

Speaker 2 (51:37):
M no, no, no, no, They'll happen the next one years because.

Speaker 3 (51:41):
Money, Yeah, someone will come along and think they can
make it work, even though Tron has never made money.
And this is the thing. It's like, as a kid,
who was you know there for Tron, It's not ever
been anything where I was like, oh, I can't wait
for the sequel to this movie. It was just like, yeah,
all right, that was cool. It's it's just like there's
there was a lot of movies back then that thankfully

(52:04):
they haven't done in like never any story. You know,
there's I think they did straight to VHS or something,
but I never saw them joints. But you know, it's
like that was a movie. I never needed to see
a sequel to The Last star Fighter. There's a bunch
of great eighties joints that just never got sequels, and
thankfully and Tron should have been one of them.

Speaker 4 (52:26):
You know, like straight up.

Speaker 1 (52:28):
I just it's a cool idea, but poor I.

Speaker 3 (52:31):
Just never understood, Like I'm when trom Legacy came out,
That's why I never saw it because I was just
uninterested and I was one of the people who should
have been interested did not care. You know, I got
in free, and you know, we got to review it.

Speaker 4 (52:44):
So that's why I went.

Speaker 3 (52:44):
I saw it otherwise, ain't no way because Jared Leedo
and tromp echo.

Speaker 2 (52:50):
But I said last week it was much better than
I expected.

Speaker 4 (52:55):
It was about what I expected.

Speaker 1 (52:56):
It is what I because I didn't expect. I didn't
expect nothing I expect. I was like, this ain't going nowhere,
but it was.

Speaker 4 (53:03):
I knew it.

Speaker 3 (53:03):
I was hoping it would look good. I figured that
they you know, that was the reason it existed, and.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
It got that in spades.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
It looks like there's there's there's nothing that probably looks
better than that this year, just in terms of effects.

Speaker 4 (53:15):
Honest with you, no, I did it that, but but yeah,
that's me.

Speaker 3 (53:21):
I expected nothing else and I got nothing else.

Speaker 4 (53:24):
So it wasn't like my expectations were pretty much met.
I was whelmed.

Speaker 3 (53:30):
Yeah, I was very whelmed because I knew exactly what
I was getting, A terrible movie with perhaps.

Speaker 4 (53:36):
Some it looked good.

Speaker 3 (53:37):
It looked good in a treiler, so I was like, Okay,
it's probably look good in the theater, and it did.
You know what doesn't look good is AI. Shout out
to my brother Young Guru, and shout out to another brother,
one of my brothers, Lance, another Howard University alumni and
Lance Gross No No, Lance Williams.

Speaker 4 (53:56):
Lance made a.

Speaker 3 (54:00):
Sore video this week of a little cartoon joint big
Enough Powered, and it was like a Howard recruitment type video,
and he was basically saying, this is like, you know,
a treatment or an imagination of what a Howard cartoon
could look like. And I was just like, yo, man,
I'm really saddened to see you using Soler or any

(54:21):
AI creator and you know, posting these videos when I
just feel that it's just adding to the general slop
of AI, and I feel as black people, we should do.

Speaker 4 (54:31):
Better, you know.

Speaker 3 (54:32):
To be honest, I just I've yet to see any
AI use of any creation for anything be good or
useful or anything worthwhile considering the damage environmentally, considering the
legal ramifications of it, considering the fact that you're using

(54:54):
other people's work to train AI models, which are basically,
as I told Lance, copy and pasting on a large scale,
that's all it will ever be. It will never be intelligent.
We don't understand how intelligence worse than human being? So
how could we ever created a machine like we don't
understand our thought. We don't understand any of that stuff,

(55:16):
and we probably won't ever at the rate we're going,
you know, the way we're looking for it, So we'll
never be to creative machines. And all AI is is
what the proper term is a learning module, because it's
going to copy and paste on a very large scale.
And Lance was telling me that, oh, if you think
it's just propping and pasting, then you don't know what

(55:37):
And I'm like, Lance, No, it's it's propping and pasting.
It will always be copying and pasting. It's doing it
on a large scale. Yes, it's searching every available art.
If you're saying, give me a cartoon about black kids
at Howard, it's searching every available cartoon about black kids,
and then it's copying and pasting them together to create
a fasten all of it. And that's all it will ever.

Speaker 1 (55:57):
Do, and which is why it also shoot me AI
because yeah.

Speaker 3 (56:01):
And and then people get confused, and that's why people,
you know, they start talking to chat GBT and thinking
it's a person and all this insanity.

Speaker 2 (56:09):
That that's you know, that's on another thing. That's that's
that is a personal issue. And yes, these things, these
models approximate people and responses.

Speaker 1 (56:20):
And things like that, but that that is on.

Speaker 2 (56:22):
A mental area, that's a mental lapse in many ways
and shapes and forms that. That's that goes above jess Oh,
I'm talking to chat GPT. It's it's something else going
on with people to listen to it to that much.

Speaker 3 (56:39):
To that, Like I saw the creator of one of
these things coming out today and saying you shouldn't outsource
your thinking. Yep, and that is like, it's it's so
crazy to me because but I've seen it, you know,
I've seen people like again, you know, Lance is someone
I went to school with. He's my age, and it's

(57:01):
it's interesting to me to even see people my age,
you know, turning to chat GPT.

Speaker 1 (57:06):
Why is that interesting because it's just something well use
mean it in a derogatory Why is that the case?

Speaker 4 (57:12):
Yeah, because you're using something else to think for you.

Speaker 2 (57:16):
Maybe they don't see it that way. And I'm playing
I'm playing.

Speaker 3 (57:19):
No, no, no, I know, I get it, And that's
what I'm saying. This is this was the argument I
was having with Lance. I'm like Lance, when you someone
I consider to be an intelligent, well read, well known brother.
He worked at rock Star Games. You know, he works
in different fields. When you're using this, you're normalizing, and
you know, you have a bunch of people in your

(57:40):
comments like, oh, look, how dope this is? Can you
show me how to do this?

Speaker 4 (57:43):
And all this? And I'm like Lance.

Speaker 3 (57:45):
The at one point in this cartoon, the little girl
is sitting and she's the professor with the chalkboard is
behind her, and he has five arms and people are
just but because you're someone with taste, to discernment and
a voice, you're normalizing this and that goes with on

(58:06):
a larger scale once it get just like, hey, I
all these other people normalizing it?

Speaker 4 (58:11):
What's the name? Using soa.

Speaker 3 (58:13):
The white boy and letting his image be used for it,
the guy the Fate Fighter. I erase those people from
my memory as much as I can. Yeah, but you
know what I'm talking about, Yes, the blind boxer, Yeah,
and he used he let his likeness be used on
sorow so you can create videos of him doing whatever.

(58:36):
Paul J Paul and so so it's being normalized. There
and to see black people normalize it is where I
really start worrying. And Lance is making argument like he said,
Grew said this. I haven't talked to Grow about it,
but he's like Brew is like basically the mindset where it's.

Speaker 4 (58:54):
Not going anywhere. I don't know that.

Speaker 3 (58:56):
I think the AI bubble is going to burst and
it is going to go somewhere. But I also get
where he's saying, where it's not going anywhere and we
have to be discerning with it, et cetera. But I
don't mean I don't think that means we need to
use it.

Speaker 2 (59:09):
Yeah, I don't think it's going anywhere, And I agree
with both statements. I don't think it's going where. And
I also don't think people need to use it. And
over the years, I say famously, but I've famously become
very anti AI. And this is really anticicist to me
as a tech person. Yeah, because of all the points

(59:29):
you've mentioned, but also when we talk about there and
one of the reasons why people continuously use it and
they don't know the implications of AI and a lot
of times when they do, it's just a concept rather
than something real to them, Like what's the truth is
AI is incredibly harmful to the environment. I'm not saying

(59:52):
this is a tree hugger. I'm saying this as literally
one gets put up in your town, you will lose
Act says to clean water fast because one of the
things that AI use is because it all.

Speaker 1 (01:00:06):
Of these CPUs and machines.

Speaker 2 (01:00:08):
And they're emitting all this heat and energy you need
they need to be cooled down somehow, and that is
usually they usually turn to the water sources in whatever
town or locale that the AI data center is in. Literally,
you will bleed dry a whole town of people in

(01:00:28):
order to allow this data center to run. And it
gets me chills, like the matrix type shit, whereas like
you got so much, like the computers are taken over
so much that the earth is covered completely covered in
tubes and ducks and wires and electricity, and there's no
fucking grass, there's no fucking atmosphere, there's no fucking nothing.

(01:00:48):
And that is like the most insane view of it.
But I'm like, this is literally what it could potentially go.
And again, as I'm saying, is I may say this
is some and they just say, oh, well, conceptually that
sounds bad, but it's like, what does that mean to me? Well,
when they build one in your town and you can't
get clean water out of your faucet, and it's emitting

(01:01:12):
radioactive waste and not just video had to waste, but
but but it's polluting your streams and it's emitting so
much carbon dioxide in the air that you start getting
sick and developing cancers and all other stuff. And it's
not until that happens, it's not until your people's die
that you're like, oh, maybe that AI wasn't so cool.

Speaker 1 (01:01:33):
And it's because of the normalization.

Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
It's because it's made to seem so innocuous, like oh,
I'm using sword to do a cartoon, Like, No, every
time you run a prompt, do you know how much
water's been taking it? I don't have the metrics in
front of me, so I'm not even gonna just give
you a number, but it's massive. Every time you run
a promp Do you know how much carbon dioxide is
is emitted? Do you know how much rare earth materials

(01:01:58):
is required?

Speaker 1 (01:01:59):
Do you know how how polluting that is? Do you
know how fucked up it is?

Speaker 2 (01:02:02):
And the part to bring it to connected to what
you said about black people. This is directly it's connected
to environmental racism. They don't build these data centers next
to a bunch of white people, affluent white people anyway,
because you know they're doing the same thing the poor
white people. They are building this next to poor people,

(01:02:24):
next to marginalized people, next to people that because of
everything else that's going on in this country, they're trying
to take away all sorts of rights. So you have
a situation where your voting rights are being taken away,
all these different rights as a citizens are being taken away,
and they have a data center that is taken away
that you don't have freedom to water right, And I

(01:02:49):
don't think people are understanding the implications on that degree,
either understanding or even.

Speaker 4 (01:02:55):
Knowing or even caring.

Speaker 2 (01:02:56):
And then sometimes you don't care, and I get it,
like I'm not gonna I'm I'm not going to be
holier than now, Like, well, you should know better because
I do things, all of us do things every day
that hey, this ship is contributing to the detriment of
your planet. Yeah, but there are some things that you
can also stop fucking know, the detriment of planting, the

(01:03:17):
detriment of your people for sure, like capitalism, right, but
there are certain things that you do not have to do,
and you do not have to use sword to make
a cartoon about Homecoming or about.

Speaker 4 (01:03:27):
Howard in general and just about anything. I just it's like, well,
I'm just sure. I'm not a fan.

Speaker 3 (01:03:34):
No, I'm not a fan. And it's like the idea
that I'm just showing proof of concept and all this.
You can hire artists if you want to do that,
if you seriously want to do that.

Speaker 1 (01:03:44):
That's not fast enough, it's not easy enough.

Speaker 3 (01:03:47):
One of the last things Lance said to me to
really upset me, in fact, is he's like, well, this
is showing that you know, you or anyone else to
do this. And I'm like, Lance, I wrote a graphic
novel and a children's book, and you know you're over
here posting videos about you know so, and you're saying
that this isn't taken away from artists.

Speaker 4 (01:04:08):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:04:08):
And I think that's the pretense where it trips up
a lot of people, because I understand that sentiment, because
I actually while I was away in France, i posted
some comments about AI and I said I want to
argue with people and not you know, I said what
more about what I just said to you about AI,
And it's inplication why I don't like it and why
I feel like it's not truly creative. It's nothing creative

(01:04:30):
about it that's approximates what they think is a human
with it, which is why it's still fill with buks.
And there are certain things like Sora, which they've they've
iron out a lot of the kinks where now it's
kind of it's getting to the point or it is
at the point where a lot of this shit is
in the string, indistinctuible from real life except for if
you're really looking for the flaws.

Speaker 4 (01:04:50):
But it never feels.

Speaker 1 (01:04:51):
But it never feels quite right.

Speaker 2 (01:04:53):
But my thing is it's been normalized so bad so
much that like while I see like people say there's
some benefits to it, like it helps you, like if
that's to Catch twenty two. There's people, for example, there's
creators who may use it and they say, oh, it
helps me jog my creativity. Like I'll put some I
put four words down about something I'm thinking about, and

(01:05:13):
it says, have you thought about it in this way?

Speaker 1 (01:05:15):
Okay, fine, no, no, no, let me finish.

Speaker 2 (01:05:18):
Okay, fine, you feel it's helpful to you to somebody, right,
you feel it's helpful to you in that way, But
what are the implications of you doing that? Yeah, you
mentioned it before where you said like you're outsourcing your thinking,
because that's what that's doing.

Speaker 1 (01:05:35):
You're outsourcing thinking, and that's what I mean.

Speaker 2 (01:05:37):
And I'm like, this is this is where the hurdle
comes where people are like, well, I'm not using it
to completely create.

Speaker 1 (01:05:43):
I'm just using it to help. And I'm just like,
but at what cost?

Speaker 5 (01:05:46):
Yeah?

Speaker 4 (01:05:46):
What costs?

Speaker 3 (01:05:47):
It's like like, like I just said, talk to somebody,
you know, that's how writer's rooms works, That's how things
are creating.

Speaker 4 (01:05:53):
Me and Mellow talked through hindreds.

Speaker 3 (01:05:56):
You know, if I had an idea that Mellow couldn't
figured it out, I ask somebody else about it.

Speaker 1 (01:06:01):
But the argument is easier said than done, Ben.

Speaker 2 (01:06:03):
The argument will always be just like how your friend
told you, Oh, well, this kid, lets you know that
you do it because he's not gonna do the work
or the time, or the energy or the money to
find somebody.

Speaker 1 (01:06:13):
And again, this is not finger pointing, This is not wholy. Now.

Speaker 2 (01:06:16):
I'm just saying the reality, Yeah, do that, which takes
two weeks, a month whatever, or jump on sorera in
thirty seconds. You get your output, yep, right, And that's
like and that's not just just completely, that's not just
beholden to AI. That's damn near a lot of things

(01:06:38):
in life. Right, Well, shit, I can still get what
I get something if I just do it this way.
It's free to me versus putting all this other work.
And I guess that you could say that's what separates
artists from consumers. Artists might sit there and be like, well, shit,
it's gonna take me two years or sow this sweater.

Speaker 1 (01:06:56):
But I'm gonna do it.

Speaker 2 (01:06:57):
I'm not gonna take no shortcuts because in that it's
important to me M And there's other people going to
be like, well, you know I want this help three
not even because if you don't even, Yeah, that's that's
a whole nother situation. But it's not AI because at
the end of the day, someone built the model to
create that three D image or that three D thing,
right Like, someone actually drew the CAD drawings to say, hey, print.

Speaker 1 (01:07:20):
Out a phone or whatever the fuck it is, right, Like, that's.

Speaker 2 (01:07:23):
Different to just as you say, just completely have this
machine because it's not even a it's not a person,
place or thing.

Speaker 1 (01:07:30):
It's a thing. It's a thing.

Speaker 2 (01:07:32):
It's not it has no life right to give this thing,
this your idea and to say create when all it's
doing is copying.

Speaker 4 (01:07:40):
And that's the thing.

Speaker 3 (01:07:41):
It's like, I would love to envision a date because
I know even Guru was talking about logic, the music production,
the digital the doll is going to have. He said
he's seen the next version of it and he's like, yo,
it just I haven't had a conversation with him about it.

Speaker 4 (01:07:58):
That it will change the way.

Speaker 3 (01:07:59):
Music for duction is done forever, and so that sounds
interesting to me, you know if I can, but I
just don't. Yeah that See that's the other side of it.
I like there's certain stuff even in music production now
where I've been using I guess you could be considered

(01:08:20):
AI like it'll generate a pattern and then I'll chop
that pattern up.

Speaker 4 (01:08:25):
So it's you know that.

Speaker 2 (01:08:26):
But see that goes back to the argument that I
said to you earlierhere where they said creators say.

Speaker 1 (01:08:31):
It's useful, yeah, and that helps.

Speaker 2 (01:08:33):
So now it's just like, okay, you hate it, but
you also used it.

Speaker 3 (01:08:37):
No, And then that's the other side of it, Like
I would love to imagine a day where I can
be like, okay, computer, make me this cartoon or make
me this movie.

Speaker 4 (01:08:48):
But there and this is the huge butt there.

Speaker 3 (01:08:52):
I don't ever see that day happening, because there's never
gonna be a day where I can say, hey, computer,
write me Jimmy Hendrix Purple Hayes, because it won't because
it can't, because it's not gonna say been would you
like a character named backgash contest who has a bowling

(01:09:15):
ball head. Things like that are only gonna come from
like the dumbaka only came from me saying I want
a dragon in this book, and Mellow saying you can't
use dragons, because then anyone can do dragons create something new,
And so we created a dumbaca.

Speaker 4 (01:09:35):
And that's that. It's that little.

Speaker 3 (01:09:37):
It's the graininess of everything of creation that I don't
ever see. Sure I can tell it, write me Jimmy Hendrix,
Purple Hayes a sequel to it, And because Purple Hayes
is already out, it can take a lot of the
elements to it and probably come up with a sequel.

Speaker 4 (01:09:54):
But I again, that's not it, you know.

Speaker 3 (01:09:57):
And that's where it's like I can take somewhere someone
gives me if because basically what I said is like
the thing is giving me a sample, and then I
chop the sample up because to me, I don't give
a damn where I get the sample from. I chop
it up and it becomes my thing. But I can't
ever imagine a day where I say, make me.

Speaker 4 (01:10:18):
A house song. How I don't know.

Speaker 3 (01:10:21):
Maybe it's just I can't figure how to describe it,
you know, maybe I don't know prompts like that, you know,
write me a deep out song.

Speaker 4 (01:10:27):
That has none of the elements that have never been
done before.

Speaker 2 (01:10:31):
Well, even that is not a good prompt because it's like,
what are you talking about?

Speaker 3 (01:10:37):
But again, there is no prompt that you can't tell something,
do me something that's never You can't.

Speaker 1 (01:10:42):
Because it doesn't create take this.

Speaker 4 (01:10:44):
Sample and chop it up in a way that I
would do it.

Speaker 1 (01:10:47):
That's because it's not a human and sing.

Speaker 3 (01:10:51):
I can tell to chop up a sample like Dyla
would do it. But Dyla, even though he does have
a very specific touch that people imitate, now if he
was alive to do it, would do it differently, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (01:11:04):
But it will still approximate as best as it can
based on all the stolen data.

Speaker 3 (01:11:08):
Yeah, but it's not gonna be Dilla or it's not
gonna be the next person. It's not gonna be me
because I don't have enough material out there to approximate
what I'm doing. And I'm just doing it, you know,
bits and pieces of whatever other people doing and you know,
expanding in my own way. But it's that expansion and
it's that growth, it's that humanity. I just don't ever

(01:11:29):
see that working. Like I don't.

Speaker 4 (01:11:32):
I would, like I said, I would love it.

Speaker 3 (01:11:34):
I would love if I could be like, yo, make
me this dope ass cartoon, you know of Jimmy Hendricks proprieties.

Speaker 4 (01:11:40):
But then I'm stealing Mandreates hard, like immediately, that's immediately.

Speaker 3 (01:11:46):
There's the only way to do that is to take
Mandreates hard and you know, make an approximization of a
way it looked like animated at.

Speaker 1 (01:11:54):
The end of the day.

Speaker 2 (01:11:54):
The reason why we're in this mess as we are now,
the wild wild West of it is because there are
no regulations in the US. The it It's kind of
like how like when the Internet first came, it was
like Wow, Wow West type shit, like, yeah.

Speaker 1 (01:12:06):
There is there's no real regulation.

Speaker 2 (01:12:08):
That's I think that above everything messes with me the most.

Speaker 1 (01:12:14):
Forget to forget the technology.

Speaker 2 (01:12:15):
It's so like technology yourself, unless you're doing something specifically,
it's just there without any type of guardrails, without any
type of as mentioned regulation or governance. Like the scariest
things can be done with it, and like especially things
like sore, like it could take one of our like
someone could put one a lot of licenses in there
and have us doing some some wild shit. H And

(01:12:36):
I have no at least they claim, like I guess
now you have a little bit more control, but I
have no necessarily.

Speaker 1 (01:12:41):
Control over that.

Speaker 2 (01:12:43):
Yeah, but I need the regulation at the end of
the day, Like this shit needs to be highly highly regulated.
And again because of how everything's tracking right now in
this country and the way things are not going to
prolificness of AI quote, that's why Guru's right that it's
not going anywhere.

Speaker 4 (01:13:03):
No, I get that as well.

Speaker 3 (01:13:04):
I think the bubble will burst on this idea that
people can make money from it. Well, we'll stop seeing
these dumb ass commercials and all that type of stuff constantly.
But no, the technology is here, so it's not going
to vanish, you know, overnight. No, it's done to stay.
And that is why I had such a problem with
people who are who should be smart enough to know.
And I'm not gonna keep calling Lamps out, but I'm

(01:13:28):
gonna say this again because he's used the same argument
that another friend of mine. I will say their name
as well, sy My man Cyrus used the same argument
when I called them out on using AI months ago
and they said, I remember when people said the same
thing about sampling, and I wanted to slap both of
them motherfuckers honestly, because I was different.

Speaker 4 (01:13:50):
Yeah, it's it's it's it's the same.

Speaker 3 (01:13:52):
It's like saying what Timberland was doing when Timblan was
making great music versus what Timberland is doing now. No,
Timbland is a genius who made great music at one time,
and now this motherfucker's hawking AI.

Speaker 2 (01:14:04):
Signing AI artists like that is an oxymoron.

Speaker 1 (01:14:08):
There is no such as an AI artist.

Speaker 3 (01:14:10):
No, And it's the same exact thing where it's like
you cannot compare sampling one of the greatest inventions, like
done through them yeah, done through the mastery of blackness again,
through like magical levels of thinking to this bullshit.

Speaker 4 (01:14:28):
You know, that's like it was.

Speaker 3 (01:14:30):
It was so disgusting to see a hip hopper, you know,
someone who grew up on it the same way to
compare like what was we created the art of sampling
because music was taken out of schools, because it was
restricted from us because we didn't have We couldn't learn
to play in schools anymore and take instrumentation to the

(01:14:50):
next level like black people had always done. So we
took something that didn't even exist and made it to
the nets level. Like the amount of genius that people
like DJ Premier, Dell up Heat, Rock Shot g any
of these producers are hm and you're comparing her to
this bullshit slot.

Speaker 4 (01:15:10):
That shit will never be hip hop, that shit will
never be dope. It distrusted me.

Speaker 3 (01:15:17):
I'm sorry, Like you know, it's like it's like when
people talk about the podcaster, I feel, you know, you
don't need to put their words, you know, certain people's
words and context when they die. Like hip hop was
genius from its inception. It wasn't like oh, one day
just saying this, you know, AI will turn into something good.
No hip hop was genius from its inception. Fuck out

(01:15:40):
of here, sorry, and no no notice spread lands inside,
but fuck out here with that bullshit.

Speaker 1 (01:15:46):
Yeah mm hmm, well I already know who's getting enslaved
by the AI first, all of us.

Speaker 4 (01:15:53):
We all, we all take it.

Speaker 3 (01:15:54):
I mean the man that also said you know in
his same argument's talking about because I brought it. I've
been need to make a post about this, a video
about this. It's the famous well it's not even famous
for people don't know it and they should know it.
There's an Avengers traument that I've read when I was
growing up where they battled this character named the super
adapto It and super Adaptoid, like his name, can adapt.

Speaker 4 (01:16:12):
Anyone he meets.

Speaker 3 (01:16:13):
He can gain their powers immediately, so by the end
of it, he's got the powers of all the Avengers
and even more. I think he adapts the Cosmic Cube,
you know, the testa rat. So my man is just
universal power level at the end, and he's creating clones
of himself to adapt every person on the planet so
he can replace every person on the planet. And Captain

(01:16:35):
America gets to him, it's like, all right, but then
what and that's where he's stuck because he can't imagine shit.

Speaker 4 (01:16:42):
All he can do is copy and paste.

Speaker 3 (01:16:44):
And eventually Captain America convinces him to kill himself by saying,
you know, well you don't know what death is, why
don't you try that out?

Speaker 1 (01:16:52):
He's to kill yourself.

Speaker 3 (01:16:56):
And it worked, and that part is kind of crazy,
but it was just you know, and I brought this
up to Lance. I'm like, this is the same thing
that AI is. And so then Lance countered with, well,
what about Terminator or the Sentinels. Then they eventually learned
and I'm like, this brought up the ship that tried
to kill off.

Speaker 4 (01:17:13):
Humanity and be like I did it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:15):
It eventually learn Like again, when something is genius and
something is great, it is from the inception.

Speaker 4 (01:17:23):
You know, anything black people created genius from the gate.

Speaker 3 (01:17:27):
It didn't have to be put in context anything the
other side is created.

Speaker 4 (01:17:32):
Uh, you know, we gotta check on it.

Speaker 3 (01:17:36):
I'm sorry, it's sad but true.

Speaker 1 (01:17:44):
That's a good ending.

Speaker 4 (01:17:50):
God damn, it's the racist as hell, but also.

Speaker 1 (01:17:55):
So real, Like you said, the other side, so that
could be anybody.

Speaker 4 (01:17:59):
Yeah, but it is.

Speaker 3 (01:18:00):
You know, it is like anything white people create, you
have to really check on it, and that's fucked up.

Speaker 4 (01:18:04):
But it's like, you know, what have they done? What's up? Y'all?
Thank you for watching that video that you just watch.

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