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Speaker 1 (00:00):
What's up, y'all? Welcome to another episode of the four
All Nerds Show.
Speaker 2 (00:03):
And on this.
Speaker 1 (00:04):
One we got Roy Wood Junior and the Mother House.
Speaker 2 (00:22):
And what's up y'all? Welcome back to the for All
Nerds Show.
Speaker 1 (00:25):
As always, we are bringing you that heat and we
have it yet again. I mean, this is pretty legendary.
Here we have Roy Would Junior himself, the comedian, actor, writer, producer,
motivational speaker, and much more. You may know him from
his time on the Daily Show, his stand up specials,
or from the.
Speaker 2 (00:45):
Hit television series Have I Got News for You? On
seeing It?
Speaker 1 (00:48):
And he also has a new memoir in stores now,
The Man of Many Fathers out now, better books stores everywhere,
please everyone, yeah memoir.
Speaker 3 (00:59):
You know Roy Wood Junior.
Speaker 2 (01:03):
Appreciate you.
Speaker 3 (01:04):
I approciate your blessings, blessings. Wonderful to be in the building.
Thank your pastor for having me as a guest at
the church today, Oh Maine.
Speaker 1 (01:11):
You know I did grow up in Wheeler Avenue Baptist Church,
so shout out to Reverend Lawston. Thank you very much
for that.
Speaker 3 (01:17):
I bring you greetings from First Baptist Church of Clarkston, Mississippi,
where an Honorable Elder Griffith's my pastor. Every summer. I
used to go to a church so small. I go
to Mississippi to visit my grandma every summer. They church
only had a pastor first and third Sundays because he
had another church where he pastored second and fourth. Wow
(01:37):
all time. Yeah, yeah, okay, small, small.
Speaker 4 (01:41):
Damn, I got to spread the wealth. I guess I understand.
Speaker 2 (01:43):
Yeah, you do what you need to do.
Speaker 3 (01:45):
But no, I appreciate you all for having me in
the mix.
Speaker 2 (01:48):
Man, All right, now, thank you so much for having me.
Speaker 1 (01:51):
And you know, since we met at Tannahsee Coach's house,
you know, my first question to you is your new book.
You know, it's like basically a le to your son.
So did you let Tanna houseI know, did you?
Speaker 3 (02:04):
Yah? I told him I was biting the style.
Speaker 2 (02:06):
Okay you first.
Speaker 3 (02:08):
Man, Just so you know, it's it's kind of like
a letter, but it's more. Here are a series of stories.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Stories. Yep.
Speaker 3 (02:16):
Because my pops died when I was sixteen, I get older,
I have a child in my late thirties, and I
started doing the math, and I go, damn, I didn't
learn everything from my pops. So who did I learn
it from? Oh, and you have these realizations of all
of these seeds of knowledge that were planeting you by
people that weren't related to you. So I wanted to
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kind of give my son a little bit of a
like like a guidebook for values, just a broader value
system that I possess. And here's why, Because if you really,
if you really sit back then and you really like
think about, well, why do I believe that thing? You
can go back to the first time in your life
when that moral was tested or that piece of that
(03:00):
value was stress tests by the world, and you can go, Okay,
that's why I don't snitch because my coworker that snorted
cocaine slam, oh wow, okay, that you know, like, oh,
and I'm being silly. But then it's also in the converse.
That's why I'm so communicative with my son, because me
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and my pops never had that. In the one window
he gave me into really asking him questions, deeper questions
about parenting and fatherhood, I missed that window. Well, I'm
not gonna talk cryptic to my son. I'm gonna be
out in the open. Hey boy, what did I do
this week that you liked, And what did I do
this week that you didn't like? Don't really change, but
(03:43):
I'm open to here. This is the suggestion box. So
I think that that's a very important dynamic to have
father to son. But but yeah, you know what Todd
has he did between the world like that was it
was definitely a big influence on how can I speak
(04:04):
directly to mylf. Y'all want to buy it and read it? Too? Cool?
But this is for him?
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (04:10):
All right, now taking it back, as you know, as
your sweater says, you attended FAM, you and you you
know credit your time at the university was saving your
life when you got caught up in some extract, you know,
curricular activities.
Speaker 3 (04:25):
You have to take credit cards because otherwise people are
thinking dope and guns.
Speaker 2 (04:29):
Okay, all right, cool.
Speaker 5 (04:30):
He was a scammer, yeahify, Yeah, but I mean you
you were more than just a stammer.
Speaker 1 (04:36):
You had you know, you you had a few levels
to you know, to how you operate.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
I was it was an innovator, king you know there
you go. You know, it's not just boil me down
and just like oh yeah, take your credit card. I
was doing my best to feed the men and Women
of Florida A and M. Because you have to understand,
our cafeteria closed at seven, but you're up till midnight,
(05:02):
and the only pizza spot is the Terrible One. Nobody
else will deliver it to the black side of town.
So I liberated those pizzas from Pizza Hut and brought
them back to the campus and sold them for value
prices O Monday night football in the TV room.
Speaker 4 (05:18):
I heard he was also liberating some polo shirts and Tommy.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Girls, you baby steps. First you have to liberate the
credit card from the post office, which is a federal crime,
and then you take that credit card down to the
Dillots the Tommy girl.
Speaker 1 (05:38):
Yeah boy, I'm from Houston, you already know, so yeah, yeah,
you know.
Speaker 3 (05:43):
It's fun. You know what's funny when you get older.
The store that was like top of the line to you,
once you realize what top of the line really is.
Speaker 2 (05:53):
It is, but it ain't do it, It ain't.
Speaker 3 (05:55):
Doing It's just oh that was all right, Like Northoms
is the top of the middle class, and then there's
whole nother stores like this one. Doesn't I know what
I'm in the store. I can't afford when it's space
between the shirts on the rack. Does that make sense?
Speaker 5 (06:14):
Yes, there's only one, and it's one of us for
a sample, because all.
Speaker 3 (06:18):
The sides of all the sides of want your greasy
hands touch on all the shit that they'll have. You
look at a rack and it'll just be two shirts
of the thing that you like, and you go, oh,
they ain't got none to stop. No, they didn't put
fifty of them out there, like JC Penny. When I
see space between the rack, I already know that shirt
one thousand dollars, I can leave right now.
Speaker 4 (06:40):
What made you choose fam You?
Speaker 3 (06:42):
My mom went there and my pops taught there, and
it was far enough away from Birmingham where I feel
like I get a change of scenery. I think if
you go to college where you live, or close to
where you live, or around a bunch of folks you
went to high school with, you're not maximizing the experience,
because the beauty of college is that you it to
be something different. All I knew for sure is that
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I want to lead the state of Alabama. So I
had Tennessee, State, Clark, Atlanta, and fam You. Those were
the I only applied to three colleges and I got
accepted at FAM you like in October of my senior year,
like early acceptance.
Speaker 4 (07:17):
That's early acceptance.
Speaker 1 (07:18):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (07:18):
I was like, all right, I'm good, this works. Yeah,
it's good. Don't you ain't gonna apply because you know,
I like kids, you know, smart kids in your school.
I've got fifteen twenty exceptance of I got one Tennessee
State and never even wrote back. I don't even know
if they got the transcript. Like, damn I was. I
(07:39):
was just I was good. I just knew that's where
I wanted to go. I never visited the campus. I
didn't request her bro sure it just I was like,
that feels like a good place to go where people
will look out for me. In hindsight, I probably should
have gone to Clark just because Atlanta was a better
(08:00):
city for journalism internships Tallahassee. Yeah, Atlanta was becoming a
media hub and Tallahassee only has three of the big
four local affiliates. And then on top of that, there's
no cable stations there, so there's just not and then
you're competing with Florida State, And at that point, for me,
(08:23):
I had I was on probation, so I'm really not
gonna get no internship. I had to. I talked about
it in the book. I had to create my own
internship just to get the internship credit I needed to graduate.
So you know, that's that's probably one regret. But then
you know, on the other side of it all, if
(08:43):
I were in Atlanta and I had gotten caught up
in the mess I gotten caught up in, I would
have been expelled. But because I'm baptized and fam you
there were enough people on that campus, within the family
ecosystem that looked out and a lot of it was
just on the strength about Pop's reputation, in my mom's reputation,
So that kept me from throwing my life away completely.
(09:07):
So you know, I feel like at the end of
the day, I was, I was where I was supposed
to be, And you know, there's there's no regrets in
terms of man if I'd have gone to that school
because you know, also, you be in Atlanta, I messed around,
had three babies, but no, d C was too far
(09:30):
and in my brain in the South, d C was
New York, and I know it's not so yeah exactly,
y'all in bubble.
Speaker 5 (09:39):
I'm from New York. I'm from New York and that's
not the South.
Speaker 2 (09:42):
I've learned.
Speaker 3 (09:43):
All I knew was school days. So to me, d
C is New York. Like y'all got on boots and
a vests that everybody on campus and d everybody in
d C dressed like PM Dawn. I was like, all right,
this this, I'm so old. I was.
Speaker 2 (10:03):
I understand yeah and so like.
Speaker 3 (10:07):
But it wasn't until I got to college where I
found out all these East Coast cats don't run with
each other like that. But the way y'all group us
all in is bamas. And we were just like, okay, yeah,
you cannot call somebody from Philly or New York.
Speaker 6 (10:21):
They be ready to fight. I'm from the New York.
Don't you bring them New York. I'm from Philly.
Speaker 4 (10:25):
Son to jealousy, it's pure jealousy. I'm from Brooklyn, so
it's always jealousy.
Speaker 2 (10:29):
I get it it.
Speaker 1 (10:32):
Yeah, can you please explain this tweet right here? Relationship
question tweet and got nervous.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
I've said some ship on Twitter.
Speaker 1 (10:42):
This ain't even the hardest if you lost your spouse
in the Thano snap. But five years later, the Avengers
brought them back, but you already remarried with three kids
and spent the life in the shirts on a fail
food truck. Do you get back with your old spouse
or stay with the new Snap family?
Speaker 3 (10:57):
So apparently there's a TV show based on that. I
didn't know this. There was really no People replied to
that tweet from a couple of years ago, and they
told me so basically like black, like you can check
it real quick. But like, I think it was ABC
or something, But there was a show about a bunch
of people who disappeared and then reappeared years later, and
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we're trying to figure out there, Oh it.
Speaker 2 (11:23):
Was It wasn't.
Speaker 1 (11:24):
It wasn't about the Snap family, but it was about that, yes,
missing like some sort of wrapping happened.
Speaker 3 (11:30):
Yeah, and then they came back and.
Speaker 2 (11:32):
The later Yes, is that the forty four or whatever
it was. It was a few shows, for real, There
was a few of something like that.
Speaker 1 (11:39):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (11:39):
Yeah, yeah, So you know, first off, let's let's think
about that question logically.
Speaker 2 (11:46):
Yeah, because the failed food truck means a lot.
Speaker 3 (11:48):
Yeah, because it's very similar to the end of Castaway.
I don't know if you ever saw Castaway, Tom, Yes,
So for the folks who never saw it. He's on
the island for years and years. He has a wife,
and when he comes back, when he's found and he
comes back to America, his wife has a new man,
she has a baby, and she basically tells, Buddy, I
(12:09):
thought you was dead. Sorry about that, big dog, and
closes the door in his face and like it's like
one of the last things in the movie. And I
kind of gotta agree with the wife, because here's the thing.
If if my girl left and then I just assumed
(12:30):
she was dead after you know, the federal limit is
seven years where I can declare you dead and dissolve
your estate if you come back in year eight talking
about baby, what's up? Even if I get back with you, you're
gonna hold that shit over my head and the relationship's
gonna be awkward because you're just gonna be asking me
(12:51):
a bunch of questions about why I ain't come look
for you, and then I'm gonna have to explain to
you I did, Like I'm not gonna lit the rest
of my life's sad because you stranded somewhere or Thanos
snapped you into how I was supposed to know. Iron
Man was gonna bring your ass back.
Speaker 2 (13:09):
I ain't.
Speaker 3 (13:10):
No iron Man was gonna bring you back.
Speaker 2 (13:12):
But are you gonna stay with the failed food truck?
Speaker 3 (13:14):
Yeah? I mean, but you know what, but because you
were my previous girl, you're welcome to stay here for
a minute. I will explain this situation to my new
wife and I'll be like, look, you remember when Thano's
killed half the country? Yeah, she back? Can she stay
and kick you for a quickment? And and I let
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my wife. I will convince my wife to let my
old wife stay in the garage.
Speaker 4 (13:42):
Not the garage.
Speaker 3 (13:43):
Well, you can't be in the house. That's just weird.
She gon't me and never do. And she just you've
been stranded for seven years on an island. You know
that that booty lost weight. Shit, No, you can't be
in here throwing all that around respect anything. Does everybody
(14:08):
know that? Like, yeah, look, that's why dudes be getting
caught up in that HR drama at work, because you
don't end your harassment with respectfully.
Speaker 2 (14:18):
It's like saying lol at the end of it.
Speaker 3 (14:19):
You know what I mean?
Speaker 4 (14:20):
You say whatever?
Speaker 3 (14:21):
You know that ship don't fix no text. You say
something crazy and then you see the dot dot dot
come up, then the dots disappear. You'd be like, oh no, yeah,
oh lord.
Speaker 2 (14:36):
You try to say lol at the end, and then
you know, hope for the best.
Speaker 5 (14:42):
You know you've said before. You know we're talking about
than on snaps and all that stuff. You know, it's
reminding me of comic books. And you just said before
you don't have it. You didn't feel like you had
a real childhood. So how did you find time to
really explore your imagination and getting touched in nerd the time?
Speaker 3 (14:56):
Uh? For me, it was cartoons and things, yes, land,
you know, I had a lot of toys and stuff.
You know, I remember taking the g I Joe's. So
there used to be this robot series, like it's Lego
Techniques now, but there used to be this robot toys
series called Robotics, and Robotics was I don't even want
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to call it transformers, but it was like a dinosaur
that could turn into a spaceship or like a spaceship.
It was like, what's the Japanese joints that come out
the ocean? Nongers know, the things that kill the things
that come out the oceanaphic griam niggass So whatever killed
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the kaiju. That's what robotics were. Okay, Okay, So you
could make these man made robots that were shaped like
animals or whatever, and so those I would team those
up with G I. Joe's and they would have these
battles against the transformers. So you know, it was it
was real big imagination. You know our voltron of course,
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but you know, for me, it was just I could
take the styrofoam out of stuff and turn that into
an army base. I could take bro I could take styrofoam,
put that joint in the tub. Now it's a floating base,
a marine base. Now I got the little lego boat
coming up to the marine base. I got the snorkel man.
Did y'all ever have the snorkel man where you would
(16:24):
put the bacon, soda and vinegar in the in the
tank in his back and then drop it in the
water and then he like fizzled cross.
Speaker 2 (16:32):
I think, I know what you're about, but I did
not have it.
Speaker 3 (16:35):
There was a making Nize one two with the legs
like did whatever.
Speaker 1 (16:39):
I definitely wanted something like that, but I never had
that joint. Yeah, I think, and like, I know what
robotics are too. I had g I Joe, some Transformers,
I probably had some robotics at some point, but I
definitely did not have the man who swam across the tub.
Speaker 3 (16:53):
You know something I've been amazed at when I like
really dig into my childhood and like the things that
I enjoyed, and I try to go back and enjoy
them now. There was an old cartoon series called Centurions,
and I went back and I'm like, I'm gonna.
Speaker 6 (17:08):
Order the DVDs. I wanna watch every episode the Centurion.
I'm gonna watch all sixty seventy episode It's twenty three episodes, bro,
That's all it was. It was twenty three, twenty four episodes.
It was only on the air for a year, but
they ran that bitch for another three or four.
Speaker 3 (17:31):
And then I get into a rabbit hole on YouTube,
and I'm sure you've been to these channels about why
this cartoon failed or why this toy failed or whatever,
and they were just it basically just said the Centurion
toy was too damn big and kids wasn't fucking with
it because transformers were smaller. GI Joe's was smaller, ThunderCats
were slightly smaller, even ThunderCats didn't have a whole lot
(17:55):
of episodes. Big yeah. So this idea of how you
remember something versus what it was at the times. Oh,
this was just to sell toys, and the toys didn't sell,
so they canceled the show. And maybe it was a
good ass show.
Speaker 1 (18:14):
It happens to the best of them. Something more related
to your book. Right, as a nerd growing up, my dad,
you know, he was definitely he was there, but he
wasn't there. It is the best way to say it.
He was there in the house, but he just wasn't
always there, and he really struggled, especially to connect with
me on the nerd side of things. So do you
(18:36):
have any advice to fathers now. I know you went
through your own struggles with your own father. I mean
it was like completely different obviously, But do you have
any advice for fathers out there now who are like
struggling to connect with their sons on different things.
Speaker 3 (18:52):
I think you have to just meet your kids where
they are being to the things they're into. If you
really look at if you look at bonding with people,
it's about getting them to talk to you about the
things they're excited about, and that base level principle goes
for father's son, it goes for a husband, wife, it
(19:16):
goes for boss to supportin it just get people, find
out what people are interested in, and try to talk
to them about it just a little bit. You know,
I ain't never watched Harry Potter. Harry Potter's never been
my cup of tea, never looked at it. And number one,
I think that was a generation and a half to
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remove by the time Harry Potter came. I'm forty six.
Just as a reference point that I never backpedaled into
Harry Potter. I think I'm ten years fifteen years too
old for it, right, So I've just never bothered with it.
I watched Lord of the Rings because I had to
read the Hobbit books in high school. So let me
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see what you know. You're always curious about the visuals
of what something you read, right, I have my son, well, Buddy, Buddy,
Buddy watched a lot of Harry Potter. His mom came
up on it, so she passing down the joint to him.
And now I'm I'm asking questions and I'm not gonna
(20:18):
like it's high fine cinema. As a Christopher Nolan fan,
no I can't just watch Harry Potter fight a two
hit a snaky but like this is great. I'd watch
it without my child, but I'm happy to experience it
with him. And that's the whole part. That's the whole
point of parenting is to go on this journey with
your child and guide them, you know, in every which way.
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And I've learned some stuff from watching the stuff. And
you know, our choice in movies is so sometimes ridiculously
similar and sometimes ridiculously you know, drastically different. And I
think if you're a man and you're trying to connect
with your child, especially if if you if the kid
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is not in the home with you now, I think
it's very very important to be in a place where
you can at least communicate outside the house. Like if
you ain't with the kid, you can at least call
him and go, hey, I just rewatched part four, help
me understand one more time about the thing that's room
and the Hagrid and the wolf. And kids will open up,
(21:25):
they're excited about it, and then it makes them open
to learning about your world and the things that you're into.
Speaker 2 (21:32):
Yeah.
Speaker 5 (21:33):
Absolutely, I will have to admit, like seam similarly with me,
like my parents, they know what the hell I was into,
but they asked the questions, and then that made me
realize that they cared at least about my interest.
Speaker 4 (21:42):
And you got to hit the nail on the head.
That's absolutely something that the you today need.
Speaker 5 (21:48):
You know, when you're talking about how you're raising your kid,
how you're trying to be into what he's into, and
I know you're trying to also impart some.
Speaker 4 (21:53):
Wisdom as black people.
Speaker 3 (21:55):
You know.
Speaker 5 (21:56):
One of the things that my family has said, like
sometimes you got a gatekeep and I was curious, in
your head, do you think there are some black things
as we call it lingo food style that we need
to keep and not share?
Speaker 3 (22:08):
Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 2 (22:10):
How how do we?
Speaker 3 (22:11):
How do we do it?
Speaker 2 (22:12):
Though?
Speaker 3 (22:14):
Well? The question?
Speaker 5 (22:16):
I know one of the things one of the things
I see a lot online is like if someone's trying
to explain what what some lingo means, they like, don't
say that online.
Speaker 4 (22:23):
Don't tell no, don't tell them what that means, that that's.
Speaker 1 (22:25):
Our stuff, Like they'll figure it out evah, or they
use it the wrong way like whoke or something like that.
Speaker 2 (22:34):
You know, that was that was straight theF so Yeah, here's.
Speaker 3 (22:38):
What I would say instead, instead of don't translate it,
don't congratulate it when you see it. M Like, if
you see white people's swags, serve thing, resist the urge
to join the swags, don't say, don't steal my culture. Yes, okay,
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I see y'all. What's good, good job.
Speaker 4 (23:08):
Don't give them a cookie for it.
Speaker 3 (23:10):
Yeah, don't look out that when you go. You did it,
You scored black points, hooray, Like I don't think you
have to do that.
Speaker 2 (23:19):
Here.
Speaker 3 (23:19):
Here's here's the thing about black culture. Like we love
to say, black culture influences the world. Black culture is
American culture. Black culture, hip hop is a worldly Okay, well,
if that's true, then eventually white people are gonna get
to it. Eventually you're gonna have Koreans saying nigga. Eventually
you're gonna have people who don't look like you dancing
like you because they're influenced by it, because it is cool,
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because it is dope. You know, you're gonna have people
neck rolling and talking in is it aa ve? You
know the bonics as they used to say back in
my day, we called it bonics. Like those things are
just all byproducts of the influence of this culture. So
you know, you can be annoyed by everything, you turn
(24:00):
around and celebrate the fact that it's everywhere, well everywhere
means sometimes not black folks doing it too.
Speaker 4 (24:10):
I hear you, man, Thank you. What's the best advice
you can give to people?
Speaker 5 (24:14):
We talk a lot to our listeners and they are
having a very ourselves too, having a very hard time
managing the current social political climate right now.
Speaker 4 (24:22):
What advice would you give to people? And also how
are you managing yourself?
Speaker 3 (24:27):
For me, I take time as best I can to
try to read and slow down. I would say one
major thing, and I say this as a full fledged
seeing an employee on Saturday nights, watch the local news
when you can instead of consuming national news. Local news
still has its own slants to it, but it's shorter,
(24:50):
it's quicker, it's not as doomsday ish. If you will
spend time with friends, people you love, people you rock with,
my friends, then spend time with activities that help you
forget about where you are, like, this is my joint
right here, that's my book. So nice, Okay, I got
(25:12):
we got the switch on deck at all times.
Speaker 2 (25:15):
What you're playing right.
Speaker 3 (25:17):
Now MLB the show twenty five, but we got we
got the Mario card on there. Of course, we got
the the Sega Genesis or one. Yeah buddy, Yeah, So
I go, I go Sega Genesis a little bit, and
(25:38):
then I bought some jankie ghetto ass. Hey, whoever created
airplane flight simulator combat Zone? You need your ass beats.
(25:58):
The buttons don't do what the fuck they supposed to. Like,
you go to the controls and they say this way
is up and then the plane turned left.
Speaker 2 (26:06):
How is up? Left?
Speaker 4 (26:08):
You can Teleroy the only one in that support chat
that support for him.
Speaker 2 (26:11):
All the chick as I am, It's me, It's me,
y'all some hoes.
Speaker 3 (26:18):
And I tried to find like the developer on like
on social media to complain directly, like I'm gonna use
my blue Star celebrity. They got like one post from
twenty eighteen and some shit like this company is not
a serious company.
Speaker 2 (26:34):
But I'm so desperate.
Speaker 3 (26:35):
I'm so desperate for flight simulator games other than like
an ACE Combat, which is fine, but that's more coin
op Arkadie, and I want something that's a little more
Microsoft serious. Yeah, I'm trying to go full DCS where
I got to learn the power up procedures for every aircraft.
(26:59):
But my point is I try to find things and
activities that invoke stillness and consume less chaotic versions of
the things that I know I need. You know, one
upside to leave in the Daily Show is that my
need to my need to consume news across all channels decrease.
(27:21):
For seeing men, I just need to know what happened.
I don't need to know anybody's opinions and slants because
I'm not trying to write a correspondence segment that has
an angle that hasn't been presented to the world.
Speaker 2 (27:34):
So the.
Speaker 3 (27:36):
Needs within the job are different. So that part has
helped me to lighten up a little bit.
Speaker 5 (27:44):
But yeah, excellent, all right, real quick, I just want
to give you some rap questions we have. These are
quick fire questions. The first question three six Mafia or
April and MJG.
Speaker 2 (27:59):
Let's start something rough.
Speaker 3 (28:00):
I gotta go ball and g thank you just because
I came up on Lay It Down, and I came
up on Crime Boss and Swamp House and they just
pre date three six, and I really do feel like
them two boys really did lay the blueprint for a
lot of what Memphis wrapped eventually became mm hmm and
(28:24):
skinny Skinny Pimp.
Speaker 2 (28:26):
Was he from Memphis to Yeah?
Speaker 3 (28:28):
I think so yeah from Ryan, but he was more
of a base, you know, bass guy, but same same game.
Speaker 2 (28:34):
Man.
Speaker 1 (28:35):
That might be the first mention I lay it down
on our show, sadly, but thank you for that.
Speaker 3 (28:39):
Y'all should be talking about lay it down every single
week like that's I mean him, that's right, A favorite
breaking Thieves and hold the gods in changing hands.
Speaker 2 (28:50):
Man, you're already to lay it down like a fresh
of the dominoes. All right? The wire are breaking bad?
Speaker 3 (28:58):
Wire?
Speaker 2 (29:00):
All right?
Speaker 3 (29:00):
Not even close. The answer is always the wire. The
second answer is the shield. The third answer is breaking bad. Okay,
and wherever you want to put sopranos, though I low
key feel like better call Saul kind of deserves to
be in that conversation. But I can see if you
want to one A one B it with Breaking Bad.
Speaker 4 (29:23):
Yes, definitely.
Speaker 5 (29:27):
If you could have a theme song play when you
walk into a room, what would it be?
Speaker 3 (29:33):
Oh, the player's ball reprised? And who is Southern playeristic?
With the pianos?
Speaker 5 (29:40):
Mayor cattle Lexa colem from Everywhere.
Speaker 3 (29:47):
And the good because.
Speaker 4 (29:52):
You did.
Speaker 3 (29:59):
It's either that or it's Big Timers. How you love that?
Volume one and the song is called Beautiful and it's
just many No one's heard it, but it's it's it's
one of the most amazing fucking songs of all time.
Speaker 2 (30:16):
Just when you tonight it's ignorant.
Speaker 3 (30:21):
I'm just gonna read you the lyrics so you can
understand what a feel good song this is. Now, I'm
feeling good and fine, smoking green and drinking wine ten
thousand dollars at the bar. I guess that makes me
a super duper star, drinking ripple and Tanga ray, a
(30:41):
brand new drink. I call it rip a Ray. My
life is beautiful and it's just like that's the chorus,
second verse, Take me Baby, this is the most nigga
shit speaking three to six. Put up in that okay
many fresh second big time, It's beautiful. Take me Baby
(31:02):
to the motel. When we're finished, you can go tell Esa,
Lisa and down how we got button naked and got
it on. How I split you, hit you and bring
you home, then stole your change your reins and hair
and bones. I'm so beautiful. Why are you still a jewelry?
Speaker 1 (31:21):
Girls about it too? Like you had me in the
first half. IM not gonna live.
Speaker 3 (31:28):
We go to the motel, we have sex. I take
you home and drop you off like a gentleman. And
then you're not looking.
Speaker 4 (31:34):
Did I rob you?
Speaker 1 (31:36):
Right?
Speaker 2 (31:37):
I tell you to tell your girls about it. That's
because I was with them. You know, you say, ohyeah,
tell your girls how I hit it.
Speaker 1 (31:42):
You know, took you home. You know now they'll want
something to now. But no, also time I.
Speaker 3 (31:47):
Ship so that so in state flying Paul. Oh, I
didn't know this was a theme, and apparently it is.
DJ Paul is a dog when you should not trust
trust you leave your drink around me, nigga, your drink go,
(32:07):
don drunk.
Speaker 2 (32:11):
Girl around me.
Speaker 4 (32:13):
Leave your green around me. Gonna get smoked up?
Speaker 3 (32:15):
He said, no, yeah, you leave your green around me.
Nigga green go and get smoked up and leave your
drink around me. Believe that ship gonna get drunk up.
What unsavory motherfucker. It's just drinking. Like I know, it's alcohol.
Technically it kills germs. But yo, that's you a nasty
nigga man. If you just you just walking around the club,
(32:36):
waiting for people to put their drink down.
Speaker 2 (32:40):
I just got an amateur DJ.
Speaker 4 (32:42):
Please now have an image of just happening.
Speaker 2 (32:44):
I don't need this. How he opens it up, you know,
with his verse saying.
Speaker 3 (32:50):
Trust you're talking about. The whole song is about I
stay fly till I die. I got blady. You don't
have to do this, Paul.
Speaker 2 (32:59):
You know, just letting you know.
Speaker 3 (33:00):
Mister Paul, you don't have to drink this niggas. It's
an eight dollar hennessy.
Speaker 2 (33:06):
Why would you know that?
Speaker 3 (33:08):
I respect it. I'm sorry, I know this is rapid fire.
I'm talking.
Speaker 2 (33:11):
No, this is.
Speaker 5 (33:12):
Fine, this is totally fine. I have another one for you. Uh,
mister Roywood Junr. So you have no choice but to
run for office with a comic book villain.
Speaker 4 (33:22):
Who would you choose and why?
Speaker 3 (33:24):
On the one hand, I would run for president with
Heath Ledger Joker as my vice president because I feel
like it would it would protect me from assassination.
Speaker 2 (33:38):
That's facts.
Speaker 1 (33:39):
When you're over a lot of Middle America, it seems
to say some people like that type of chaos.
Speaker 3 (33:46):
Yeah, nobody from the Superman universe. Most DC universe villains
are just they're just okay to me anyway, I think
kill Monger would help me some crossover.
Speaker 2 (34:01):
Well, he already got the vote, the black vote.
Speaker 3 (34:04):
Yeah no, no, kill Marker got the streets. The streets
might be you know. Okay, now, kill Marker for sure
is gonna scare away them. I can't take him with
me to the Iowa Caucus.
Speaker 2 (34:19):
He can't take it with you anywhere.
Speaker 3 (34:21):
I don't know. That's a tough question though, because I
really don't. I don't know if I like that answer,
because I don't completely consider kill Manger a villain. I
consider him inflicting. Yeah, he's just conflicting ideologies. I don't
want to vilify that point of view completely. But I'm
like going through all of the Marvel movies in my head,
(34:42):
and nah, I think I think the Joker. I think
the Joker even even more so than Thanos Winter Soldier. Maybe.
I know he becomes hero later, but at one point
he was a villain.
Speaker 4 (34:57):
Oh you need the white vote though.
Speaker 3 (34:59):
Yeah, I think Bucky. I think Bucky helps.
Speaker 2 (35:02):
You a lot of white votes. The good hair and.
Speaker 3 (35:06):
Oh yeah, yeah that's right. What about Oh I got it?
O rin E.
Speaker 4 (35:17):
From kill Bill from.
Speaker 3 (35:19):
Kill Bill, Lucy Luke because she was a CEO. She
was the leader of the Crazy eighty eights, and she
was chopping fucker's heads off. And the staff meeting, that's
how we meet her. We are introduced to Lucy Luke's character.
Would she beheads one of her top advisors? That's what
you want. That's how you come across the aisle. Slash slight,
(35:43):
slash for your head off.
Speaker 2 (35:45):
That's how you wanted the press.
Speaker 3 (35:47):
Yes, yeah, final answer, O rin kill Bill. That's the
villain I want right there.
Speaker 2 (35:55):
Not at all. If you could have any one superpower,
what would it be?
Speaker 3 (36:04):
You're still want invisibility, but part of me feels like
super strength because that's the most profitable power nowadays. You
hit a baseball, throw a baseball pretty well, eight hundred
million dollars guaranteed.
Speaker 4 (36:24):
Is all related to profit?
Speaker 3 (36:25):
Yeah, yeah, Because I'm not thinking about a superpower and
the means of helping people. I don't care about people anymore.
I think it's how can I make money, because I'm
not going to run around save the world and stop
trains and be looke Cage and save Harlem and a target.
Speaker 4 (36:42):
Hoodie all the time.
Speaker 1 (36:44):
Like I told I've told her so many times though
that I'm winning three, no two NBA championships, and I
don't want to disrespect you know, Kobe or Jordan.
Speaker 2 (36:55):
I'm not winning more or king.
Speaker 3 (36:57):
You know, I'm not winning more.
Speaker 2 (36:58):
Than a king for real.
Speaker 1 (37:00):
In the morning came so two quick championships and I'm out,
you know what I mean, And I'm chilling.
Speaker 3 (37:05):
Get your guaranteed money.
Speaker 1 (37:06):
You're not guaranteed money, you know, sneaker deals all that.
And then I'm doing endorsements, you know, because I'm I'm
going booth wild in those two years, you know what
I mean, I'm doing insane level.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
I'm dunking on everyone.
Speaker 3 (37:20):
Now, I'm going baseball. I'm breaking Barry Bonds home run record.
I'm steal all the basis those. Yeah, I'm just I'm
gonna be black. Show hey, you're not how much more love?
You know? Not much crazier. Baseball would be just American
(37:40):
American American. If he was black, they were show hey
played two other sports. They wouldn't let him play baseball.
They'd have paid off his family to take a bribe
to keep him from going into baseball. Some AAU coach
with about his mama trans am some other bullshit car.
Speaker 1 (38:02):
I've seen one recently and it was like I felt
like that I'd got into a Delorian or.
Speaker 3 (38:08):
Something because it was the old school top yo.
Speaker 2 (38:11):
It was a classic what is a DeLorean.
Speaker 3 (38:16):
Down?
Speaker 1 (38:17):
Yeah? I know you got to get out of here.
So one last one. Right when you left the Daily Show,
you had no idea that you were going to end
up on Seeing Inn with your own show, right, no clue,
no clue at all. So it's this is really like
near and dear to my heart even But you know,
how do you as a creative, how do you know
(38:38):
when it's time to leave.
Speaker 3 (38:40):
When you have ideas that you know you may not
be able to do at this place. And it's not
because Daily Show was hating and keeping me from every
single thing. It's just the way that building works. Things
are just done a certain way, and this is what
we do. It's like you could never go on Saturday
(39:03):
Night Live and pitch a Chapel show or Key and
Peel style sketch. Those aren't the kinds of sketches we
do here. We might do one of those a week,
but everything else need to be shot in the studio
and performed literally live for the audience. So I think
you start looking at whether or not this is the
(39:26):
place where your ideas are best expoused and you can
still stay and do stuff, and you know this and
about turning it back on the whole institution. If you
can make the money while coming up with the next
creative thing, so be it. I didn't feel like I
could do that because the job of corresponding is very
(39:47):
time consuming, and that's the time I need for the
stillness after Sudoku and playing garbage flight sims to really
idea when I have that stillness. I can't have stillness
if I got to be in the edit. I can't
have stillness if I'm out traveling for three days and
(40:07):
you know, on my feet for nine hours interviewing people
in the street. So you know, I just didn't have that.
So I like, I, I know there's something else, But
the first thing I have to do is leave here
so that I can have the space and the opportunity
to to to grow, you know. The only the only
(40:31):
thing I could really compare it to like at the day,
like in my book, I kind of I breezed by,
but I kind of talked about in the book where
essentially it's like if you worked at it, like how
chefs be presenting new stuff to add to the menu. Well,
if you work at a Mexican restaurant and you start
getting the itching to make ravioli, eventually you're just not
(40:57):
going to fit in here.
Speaker 7 (41:00):
Some of my ideas were pasta, and pasta ain't Mexican,
so you probably should leave and then figure out how
to build your own Italian restaurant. And so I think
that's what a lot of creatives are going to find
themselves dealing. But is that there's things to be learned
(41:21):
in the places where you don't feel completely heard. But
once you feel like you've learned everything that you can
learn and contribute it in every way you possibly can,
then you should consider that lead all of this shit
man like career. It should be in the career and
growth in life. It's just a series of calculated guesses.
(41:44):
It's none of this is linear anymore. The days of
get your degree and then a company hires you, and
then you work till sixty.
Speaker 2 (41:54):
Hell now, so you.
Speaker 3 (41:56):
Just got to choose your misery. Do you choose the
misery of staying or the misery of the unknown by
taking the lead. Both are uncomfortable and both have their
own set of circumstances because you can be stable and
forever be thinking about what could have been, and that's painful.
(42:16):
And then you could also make the jump and not
know how you're going to pay your bills, and that's
also horrific. But you're alive because you're getting to choose,
you're getting to create. So you know, no, I left,
I didn't know what would be next. But the calculated
(42:40):
guess I made was that if there is ever a
window for a new show to be made about politics
in this country, it will be during an election year.
So if I'm going to leave this show in the
next four years, this is the window. Not mid terms,
(43:02):
not a year from now, not four years, because who
knows what the marketplace is gonna be at that time,
I should leave, and then sure enough, couple, you know,
six seven months later seeing it called. So you know,
I'm very grateful for that. But you know, I was
(43:23):
fully prepared to start ide eighty, start trying to figure
out ways to live skinny, to try and get things done.
But no, in no way was I ever for sure,
In no way was I ever for sure about what
(43:43):
was going to.
Speaker 2 (43:43):
Happen when I left Daily show that's real. Yeah, well
I would say thank you.
Speaker 1 (43:49):
I mean, I know it was, you know, a jump
for yourself and everything, but I would say thank you
for doing it because this has has allowed you to
speak your own mind. And you know, like you said
you couldn't bring and that's just a really great metaphor
for it, like you can't bring a Chappelle type show
to what you were doing, and.
Speaker 2 (44:05):
You wanted to do your own Chappelle, Like I want
to do a.
Speaker 3 (44:08):
Lot of different things man Like. In the time since
leaving the show, I've hosted two three during hosted the
Peabody Wards, the MLB Awards, I wrote a book. I've
been in a sitcom. I've been in two movies.
Speaker 2 (44:19):
Yep.
Speaker 3 (44:19):
That you just literally even off the time front, the timetable.
Speaker 2 (44:24):
You don't have time to do all of that.
Speaker 3 (44:26):
So I've gotten to explore a million different things. I
dropped a Hulu special, I'm working on a one man's show.
Now I got another, like nonscripted thing I'm trying to
put together for YouTube so I can sit and really
explore all the different types of foods I want to
put in my restaurant. Now, sometimes you have to lead
(44:46):
and make space for that. It's not like all of
this is profitable, but it all is leading towards something
and I trust that instinct.
Speaker 1 (44:53):
Man, Roy, Thank you you know so much. I know
you've come out of here. Yeah, we literally I get it.
You know, I got ten fifteen more questions I'd love
to ask you. So we're definitely gonna have to have
you back for sure. Yeah, sometime soon. But you know, please,
for those who don't know, let the internet's out there
(45:13):
know where they can find you at.
Speaker 3 (45:15):
Just put an at sign in front of my name,
put a dot com behind it. Let's go at Roy
Virginia everywhere.
Speaker 4 (45:26):
Hey, what's up? Internet's in the fan fam.
Speaker 5 (45:28):
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