The Dopest Comics To Cop In July 2025!!! (Comics Are Dope x Comics I Copped)

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Speaker 1 (00:11):
Hello everyone, and welcome to what is the inaugural episode
of I really don't know it's ther boy DJ Ben,
I mean longside my man BJ kicks, and we're here
to talk some comics. As you all know, this man
right here is the legend behind comics are dope.

Speaker 2 (00:31):
Myself, huh, because I don't know about legend.

Speaker 3 (00:34):
But I mean, come on, fair, come on, let's keep
it real, keep it real.

Speaker 1 (00:38):
The YouTube is popping, you know what I mean, doing
interviews with all kind of luminaries, you know, all kinds
of people who cause a bit of rockers.

Speaker 3 (00:46):
In the comics industry.

Speaker 1 (00:48):
We'll get to that. We'll definitely get to that. I
myself from DJ Ben, I mean, one of the hosts
of four All Nerds. You might know me from my
little hashtag comics I copped you know out there check
it out, and a bunch of other few things I've done,
you know, Jimmy Hinds, Purple Hayes, Osten nominated, all that
good stuff. We'll get more into that, of course, but
today we're here to talk about our four favorite comic

(01:12):
books from July twenty twenty five. Yeah, mm hmm, straight up,
So what do you have up first.

Speaker 4 (01:23):
Oh up, first, Okay, let's let's let's go ahead. Should
should we start hot? Should we start hot? You know,
I'll put in a lighter one. Let's let's go speed
Racer Issue one.

Speaker 3 (01:35):
Okay, uh.

Speaker 4 (01:36):
You know this came out just yesterday, so last week
of July. It's written by David Peppos, It's got r
by David Tinto, coming from Mad Cave Studios, and it
is pretty much exactly what you would you might expect.
It is speed Racer, uh, in a comic book in
twenty twenty five. So for me, I read speed Race

(02:00):
Excuse me. I watched speed Racer as a kid. They
used to do like these reruns at like ten PM
on Cartoon Network. Wow, was absolutely past my bedtime. But
I would like sneak turn the TV down real low
because speed Racer was just dope. But I don't as
much as I remember watching speed Racer, I don't really
remember the plot of the of the story at all.

(02:21):
Like it's just this dude, he's got this cool car.
His family is basically like his pit crew, you know
what I'm saying. The car can like saw people and
do all sorts of stuff, and he's racing which is fine,
but half the time he spends like just being on
the run or fighting against people that are trying to

(02:43):
steal the car from him. That's pretty much the show
from what I remember.

Speaker 1 (02:48):
Yeah, you said you don't remember the plot and you
just named it all other than you know, he also
has the mysterious Racer X and yes, that's pretty much
the plot of every episode of speed Racer. Okay, okay,
And there's a little there's a little chimp, right, and
that pretty much, you know.

Speaker 2 (03:10):
I just don't remember like any overall story like, oh, no.

Speaker 3 (03:17):
Very much episodic.

Speaker 1 (03:18):
No, this is well before, well not well before, but
speed Racer did not as far as I remember, because
for me, speed Racing to come on reruns as well.
But they were like, I want to say, early early
morning or when you miss school you can catch speed Racer.
I can't remember exactly when it was, but I caught
a lot of speed Racer as a kid, and I

(03:40):
remember no plot either.

Speaker 4 (03:41):
Okay, so well, this basically takes that all those ingredients
and then gives it like some heart. So as we
open issue one, speed Racer is basically like he's he's
too fast, too furious, right, because because some of us
jumped on with this second movie, not the first, right,
And I was one of those, you know, like Tyrese Ludacris,

(04:06):
I'm like, all right, cool, we can deal with this.
But it's like he's doing underground street racing. He wants
to be a Formula EX driver, which is the name
of the racing circuit or whatever. His dad is very
much against it. And so yeah, the first issue, we
just get this really dope like race. He's running from
the cops, he's running from whomever. Ends up at home

(04:29):
in a confrontation with his dad, who's like, you know, clearly,
you're out in these streets racing my car that I
told you not to be racing, you know. And then
just like in the show, you know, there are people
that are after this car. The car is of course
built by his pops, so they're after this tech that
his pops created, invented, and so there's a confrontation and

(04:54):
we'll kind of leave on a cliffhanger for the next issue.
But what I really enjoyed about this one though, was
like all of that heart they injected, like you you
know from the anime that you know, Speed has his
brother that died allegedly, but he didn't really die. He's
just Racer X. And that's gotta be the most jerk

(05:16):
thing to do, by the way, Like, like your entire
family thinks you're dead, yo.

Speaker 1 (05:22):
I mean, I wonder how I felt about it as
a kid, because as an adult, it's like, Yo, that
is some wild dude, Like for real, that's you know,
that's cold blooded. He didn't like his family like that.
That's the only excuse I have for it.

Speaker 4 (05:38):
No, that's the weird part, right because he ain'ts around
and around him it's his whole deal. There's no trouble,
and Racer X will just like secretly help him and
nobody knows who racor X is. It's like surprise, I'm
your dead brother, you know.

Speaker 1 (05:57):
What I mean. Yeah, I never really really thought about it,
you know what I mean? But it is quite true
because that is like, that's a lot of grief that
whole family holds every day of their life. The mom,
the dad, every day, can't sleep at night, you know, etcetera, etcetera.
Speed Racer. You see how then that boy is growing

(06:19):
up not eating and Racer is just out there living life.
You know. Fly car Fly outfit. You know what I mean,
nobody knows who he is. Everybody just like, oh, you know,
it's like.

Speaker 4 (06:33):
The whole heart of you know, speed racers relationship. First
of all, Speed Racer. This man's real name, first name,
last name, Speed Racer. The whole thing with Speed and
Pops is Pops.

Speaker 2 (06:46):
Is like, look, I already lost the Racer family, mister.

Speaker 1 (06:53):
Racer. I mean, look, you know it's pre destined.

Speaker 2 (07:00):
I made my son Speed.

Speaker 1 (07:02):
You can't do much else. Bro, When your name is
mister racer, you gotta be in the business.

Speaker 4 (07:08):
First of all, your last name is Racer. You're gonna
have a son named Speed, but he's not the first one.
Like the first kid gets a record, the first kid's
name is Rex.

Speaker 1 (07:19):
Racer is pretty hard. That's dope. That's pretty dope, you
know what I mean. The literation always wins and road
racer wasn't working.

Speaker 4 (07:26):
So but yeah, But the whole point of Pops in
Speed's relationship is like I lost one son to race cars.

Speaker 2 (07:38):
I'm not gonna lose another one.

Speaker 4 (07:41):
Meanwhile, Rex is on the track every week like, nah,
I'm not dead, I'm right here.

Speaker 1 (07:47):
That is insane. That's what I wonder Okay, I did
read this as well, and I enjoyed it, especially the
relationship to building between Speed and what's her name because
she's from the show as well Trixie Tricksy, which oh
that's problematic, but yeah, what I did it. I really

(08:09):
enjoyed what they're building there. But I wonder will they
get into this idea that Racer Rex Rex is causing
nothing but drama and grief for his family, right, it
has to.

Speaker 2 (08:22):
Come up.

Speaker 1 (08:25):
Because I never really thought of it. But it's terrific, right,
it's terrible.

Speaker 2 (08:30):
I don't know.

Speaker 4 (08:31):
I mean, I guess that's kind of part of the
whole point. Like Speed can't know Race Rex is brother.
Have you did you read the manga?

Speaker 1 (08:41):
Like, okay, did they address it there?

Speaker 2 (08:44):
I don't know.

Speaker 1 (08:45):
I have the I've you know, and people always talk
about how good the are, what Coouchy siblings, Speed Racer
is and I've tried to watch it so many times
and never really gotten through it. I don't think they
address it at all because that movie is like bright
lights and shiny things throughout. Yeah, yeah, so I doubt it.

(09:06):
I would. I would feel like they had.

Speaker 3 (09:08):
To do it in the manga.

Speaker 1 (09:10):
I would assume so, but I feel like I've never
heard anybody even bring this up before. How trifling RACEO exits, Right,
It's like this is something that we've been missing all
the time because I just read the issue too and
didn't think nothing of it, you know, and I know
the story, but yeah, that is so trifling, right.

Speaker 4 (09:26):
Like, if you're gonna fake your death, like go move
to an island or something, don't move next door to
me and like always show up when I need something, like, oh, hey, neighbor,
here's a cup of sugar, like bro.

Speaker 5 (09:42):
But also like, if you're gonna fake your death, what
let's go back to that. Why are you faking your death?

Speaker 1 (09:58):
Like, and how do we even get to that point?

Speaker 2 (10:00):
Right?

Speaker 4 (10:01):
It's presumed that he died and was not presumed. They
show he died in a car crash.

Speaker 1 (10:05):
Yeah, so like why did he need to fake? Did
did he know? Okay, I get it. He knows that
people are coming after the Pops, so he's like, I'll
fake my death that way they think I'm did and
I could come after me anymore and then I can
stripe back in my pops entemies.

Speaker 4 (10:19):
Okay, yeah that makes sense, But at what point do
you leave your kid in the hospital and never come
home with the body. Like what I'm saying, like for
his family, is it just like, no, there's nobody he
blew up.

Speaker 3 (10:34):
In the car crash.

Speaker 1 (10:35):
Oh okay, yeah, nobody recovers royal service.

Speaker 4 (10:38):
Yeah du that man probably looked like Deadpool under that
racer ex.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
Yeah, I see. Now there's so many levels to it
that I don't know if they're gonna ever get it
to in this book. But you know, like, did he
leaves somebody else's body in that car? Like?

Speaker 3 (10:58):
Whose body?

Speaker 1 (11:01):
I thought we were starting off.

Speaker 2 (11:02):
Like we are so off the rails already.

Speaker 4 (11:05):
But for as much as I'm being unserious right now,
I really enjoyed how much depth this book had emotion,
like it just I could identify, maybe not identify, but
I could. I could sympathize with every character's position. Right,
Pop doesn't want to lose another son. Speed literally is

(11:26):
born to race. You don't give a kid a name
speed racer, and I'd expect him to be racing cars and.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Rugs right right, And.

Speaker 2 (11:37):
He pulls out the Brandon T. Jackson Speed.

Speaker 4 (11:39):
He's like, we're broke, I'm broke, but he pulls that
out on his dad, like, look, man, we got all
these bills. The prize for this race is a million dollars, Like,
come on, be serious, I could do this, and we
have this car that we could use that you know,
nobody can beat this car. So it's like okay, cool already.

(12:00):
This is way more depth than I remember from the
cartoon at all.

Speaker 1 (12:04):
Definitely, so I don't remember money issues, but it was
always lighthearted money issues, you know. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (12:10):
Yeah, so so it's like you know, and even the
little kid, uh spritle right, he was a very problematic
character in that cartoon.

Speaker 2 (12:19):
He was between him and the monkey, like just the depiction, right,
all right, yeah, I don't want to think about it
too much. Yeah, but they gave him something to do,
like because he speed Racer's little brother is basically like
the bookie, like all right, you want to bet on
my little you want to bet on my big brother,
coold to tender one whatever. Whatever.

Speaker 4 (12:40):
He's collecting and giving speed his cut. Meanwhile, he's also
like managing the Instagram presence or whatever.

Speaker 2 (12:48):
So it's like he's.

Speaker 1 (12:50):
Got it all going on. He's the he's the shrewd kid.

Speaker 4 (12:55):
Yeah, he's he's bow wow and Tokyo Drift like the Dog.

Speaker 1 (13:05):
It's sponsoring podcast. Oh all right, anymore speeds.

Speaker 4 (13:17):
No, it was a it was a solid debut issue.
David Peppok's books are always good. The colors in this
are really good. Are reminds a lot of like, you know,
street racing, like video games. I used to play, like
Midnight Club and all that.

Speaker 3 (13:30):
The art is incredible all throughout.

Speaker 1 (13:33):
I was definitely I didn't I'm not sure if I've
seen that artist on anything but stunning work there.

Speaker 2 (13:38):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (13:39):
Yeah, I think it was a great mashup of like
the Western and Eastern stuff because it's it was a
manga first, and it's got that sort of visual home
of a manga, but it's got the colors, it's got
the pair it's like everything.

Speaker 2 (13:53):
It was really good.

Speaker 1 (13:54):
Colors reminded me of like far Setter, the yeah type
of like really advanced coloring techniques and stuff. Yeah, really nice,
really layered, right m hm.

Speaker 2 (14:08):
So yeah, that's all I got was it was dope.

Speaker 3 (14:11):
You should buy it, all right, definitely got that.

Speaker 1 (14:15):
First up, I'm gonna start off with something. I think
I'm gonna do it really dark. Yes, you know, since
we decided to start you know, light and then went dark.
I'm gonna just go dark and then see if he
can go light. My first pick is a book that
I'd forgotten about. I read the first issue when it
came out, you know, four months ago, and then just
pretty much forgotten and then saw that the last issue

(14:37):
came out this week, and so I picked it up
and went back and read the other four And it's
Out of Alcatraz, which is a five issue mini series
by the Eisner Award nominated writer Christopher Cantwell. They did
a Placid Man No More and Brier Want actually read
Placid Man No More Now and Tyler Cook also Eisner

(14:59):
Award nominated for Harrold County and The Loansome Hunters, and
Out of Alcatraz. It definitely takes place. I want to say,
I feel like this is like a nineteen seventies, nineteen sixties,
but it's also kind of like one of those timeless
type books. And it's about four inmates who stayed from Alcatraz.

(15:19):
And the book really kicks off from the first issue
with the four having.

Speaker 3 (15:24):
Already escaped.

Speaker 1 (15:27):
And they're, you know, in Alcatraz, so they had to
estap over the seas and not all four make it
out from Trump. One doesn't even get out of the prison,
he's still stuck in there. One the other four and
then one gets dropped in the water. So it's two brothers,
and one of the brothers rose in the water in
the first issue, so the other two were trying to

(15:49):
make their way. They meet up with their contact on
the outside, and the things go from there. And it's
a very criminal noir book. There's FBI and a Marshall
after them. I just really enjoyed it, like right off jump,
like you're want to talk about heart and stuff, you know,

(16:09):
you know these are hardened criminals. It really gets you
involved in everyone's story right away. Where after the first issue,
even though I forgot, I really was like, damn, this
is a really good book because it's really not the
type of book that I normally pick up all the time.
But you know, something about I was like, you know,
whenever I see a first issue with an ill name
and out of Alcatraz just caught me. So I was like,

(16:31):
let me check this out. So it got me. The
artists really nice. It looks like painted water colorish type art.
I'm not sure how they're doing it, but It's a
very fluid and dreamy type of story, even though it
does get very violent, very dark, you know, like I said,

(16:51):
criminal noir type story, la confidential, things of that nature.
The fifth issue is out this week, and yeah, I
don't want to spoil too much because it is a
limited series and you know, things do as they go.
But it's one of those uh no country for old
men type stories. Well, you know, it doesn't end well

(17:12):
for everyone. I'm not sure it ends well for most
of the people. You know, it just ends. Things don't
end well. You know, it just ends, as they say.
But I thoroughly enjoyed it after I caught back up
on it. Like when I was reading the issues today,
I was reading through them like I was chewing through
those issues, like, yo, I need to finish this joint,
and not just to be reviewing it tonight, but I

(17:33):
really wanted to find out what happened at the end
of it. So it had me from start to finish
out of Alcatraz both. I mean, all five issues are
out right now, you can check that out.

Speaker 3 (17:45):
I really enjoyed that joint.

Speaker 2 (17:47):
I might have to check that out in trade. They're
doing a hardcover in October.

Speaker 1 (17:51):
Yeah, who's the publisher on that?

Speaker 2 (17:53):
Uh?

Speaker 1 (17:54):
Only Press, Yes, Only Press, shout out the Only Press. Yeah.
Definitely worth it for the hardcover because, like I say,
it's great five issues, like tight story, there's a lot
of different elements to it beyond just the criminals.

Speaker 3 (18:07):
Their contact on the outside is a.

Speaker 1 (18:09):
Woman who is of mixed race and white passing, so
there's that type of element in the story.

Speaker 3 (18:17):
The FBI agent.

Speaker 1 (18:18):
And the Marshall who are following them are actually gay lovers,
so that's also going on. So it's like everyone has
these other sides to them and multiple layers to the characters,
and all of this stuff gets involved.

Speaker 3 (18:34):
In the stories they're going on.

Speaker 1 (18:36):
And the last thing I want to say that I
really loved about it is it's one of those stories
where plot happens for like things just interfere, you know,
like everyone's got a plan so they get punched in
the face.

Speaker 3 (18:49):
It's this type of story where.

Speaker 1 (18:51):
Everyone has a plan and then everyone gets punched in
the face in various ways, and your plans just go
completely different than you what you thought you were going
to do at the start of the story, and everyone
ends up in places that I did not expect. At
the beginning of the story, and it was really great,
especially the last issue, a lot of twists to get
the characters today ending where I was like, h very satisfying.

Speaker 4 (19:15):
That actually sounds like it must be a theme of
campwell because I read most of Plastic Man No More, okay,
and basically, you know, Plastic Man was a criminal. Yep,
he got these these mobster right, and so the series
is basically about how he was not really a redeemable

(19:39):
character necessary you know, he kind of he went straight.
You know, he's going with the Justice League, and there's
this whole thing where it's like no one ever really
took Plastic Man seriously. Like they've got these these flashback
sequences where he's like with the League and he'll bring
up like some real point and everybody's gonna last them off,
like it's like the end of.

Speaker 2 (19:59):
A Super Frans episode or something, and.

Speaker 1 (20:03):
He's just like yo, immediately yeah.

Speaker 4 (20:06):
And so so like those that's happening in the flashback sequences.
But what the what drives the plot forward is Plastic
Man is disintegrating, like whatever the accident that like made
him plastic Man end. The result of that is that
you basically like just liquify and die, and so that
process starts for him and he's like, yo, I have

(20:28):
a son, Like I don't want this to happen to him.

Speaker 2 (20:31):
I gotta like warn him. But he's a strange from.

Speaker 4 (20:34):
His son, and it's like his ex wife because he
was like he was not a good person.

Speaker 2 (20:39):
So the whole is it three four issues.

Speaker 4 (20:42):
It's like his journey trying to like connect with his
son to you know, hopefully like one find a cure,
but also like have his son give him the time
of day so we can give him the cure. And
so it's like, you know, what kind of redemption can
he find through this process even though he's accepted that,
like he probably doesn't it.

Speaker 2 (21:00):
So it was dope, No.

Speaker 1 (21:02):
I'm definitely checking out immediately because cam Well had me
with this five issue series. I love a writer who
can just get me in that first issue and then
deliver such a solid story in five issues. I'm gonna
be thinking about Out of Alcatraz for a long time after,
you know. But it was only five issues and they
packed a lot into it, so I definitely got to

(21:22):
see this placid man now.

Speaker 4 (21:24):
Dope, okay man. We left that on a little somber note.
So let's turn up the Shenanigans. Let's talk about Marvel
Knights the World to Come. Issue two came out this month. Now,
I don't know. The reactions were varied, yes, but there

(21:49):
was very much a collective gasp at the end of
issue one. For those who aren't familiar, there's a white
Black Panther. Now, you know, series takes place as a
sort of epilogue to the original Marvel Nights Black Panther run,
and so it is an alternate universe, which I don't

(22:09):
know how they're making that work there.

Speaker 1 (22:11):
Yeah, the original Marvel Knights wasn't an alternate universe.

Speaker 4 (22:15):
Well, like technically it was, and then they kind of
just folded everything in.

Speaker 1 (22:19):
I never knew it was. I mean, I wasn't reading
Black Panther like on the Dot at the time, but
I was reading Marvel at the time, And yeah, I
didn't know that that whole thing was. But I knew
Max was like kind of alternate, But.

Speaker 4 (22:34):
I don't know if it was again, I wouldn't then,
But like the way I understood it was, just Marvel
Knights was kind of more mature themed, a little bit like, yeah,
a little bit more daring in the storytelling. I don't
know that it was set up as an alternate universe,
like in the way that Ultimate was at the time.

Speaker 1 (22:53):
Yeah, No, Ultimate, because that's what really got me back
in the comments was the Ultimate Universe, and Marvel, you
know at the time was Ultimate and New x Men
was really like I mean back in the Marvel I'll
reading those pretty exclusively. But I knew about Marvel Knights,
and I never considered it to be you know, I
just like, oh, that's Daredevil. That's a blade. I think

(23:15):
black panther cage. I think it was up in there
for a while. Yeah, so I knew that, and I'm
just like, all right, that's you know, those they want
to be adult, but they're not comics. You know, That's
how I looked at them, gotcha.

Speaker 4 (23:27):
So yeah, So but according to Priest and Casada, this
is it's in its own universe, so like, whatever happens
there doesn't affect everything else, why not?

Speaker 1 (23:37):
Right? Sure? So, I mean it it's affecting everything else,
no matter where it happened. Right.

Speaker 4 (23:45):
Well, now you know they also just announced the Marvel
Knights punisher. Oh so it's we're gonna get like a
maybe now Marvel Knights is going to be his own
little universe and they're going to keep spinning out more.

Speaker 1 (23:57):
Oh so wait, this is the fun This is where
that new punisher, like how to bring it back Frank
Castle again? This is where or did they bring him
back in the six month six already?

Speaker 4 (24:07):
So there's no they they haven't brought them back in
the six one and sixty yet. Okay, but to my knowledge,
there are like two Frank Castle Punisher series in the
works because there's like a yeah, I'm sure I thought
X type deal coming well as this new Marvel Knights
punisher that's also coming.

Speaker 3 (24:25):
So it's to be a Black Punisher in Marvel Knights.

Speaker 4 (24:29):
Probably not, but uh yeah, so Marvel Knights, the World
to Come opens up like but they it's got this time.
It's this you know, it's the classic Priest thing where
you know, every few pages you're in a different year
and he's telling you different parts of the story kind
of all at the same time. And so what we

(24:51):
find out is that the main plot of the World
to Come is happening like forty years after the original
Black Pan the number one that Priest did, and so
an issue one all we really saw was the state
of the world is kind of crazy.

Speaker 1 (25:07):
We don't really know.

Speaker 2 (25:08):
Everything is like, you know, dystopian future.

Speaker 4 (25:11):
And then we see T'Challa in tribal combat, and you know,
at the end of the challenge, it's like, oh, surprise,
this son I've been talking to. The whole issue is
white and so, you know, for the last month we've
been like, how this is child I have a white son?

Speaker 2 (25:28):
You know?

Speaker 4 (25:28):
Is it that white dude that Monica Lynne was with
when he proposed? Like what is going on? And we
get all those answers an issue too, so an issue too.
We find out that it was Everett Ross's kid the
whole time, Everett Ross had a kid with Nicki. Not
Nicki from the State Department, but Nikki from the State

(25:50):
Department's twin sister that we never knew existed. So he
has this kid, had this bastard child because he never
like claimed the kid. Somehow Wakanda found out about the
kid and like went and basically bought the kid from
his grandmother and to use as to Childa's hair because

(26:14):
to CHILDA needed an air. They got pregnant, but they miscarried.
Like I'm spoiling this whole issue, by the way, my bad.

Speaker 1 (26:22):
But all good because I have so many questions. I've
read the issue as well, and I'm like, why didn't
they just pay for some black kid? Why ever it
Rosses did? Like what is the lineage here other than
it's Ever Ross?

Speaker 4 (26:35):
Right, Yeah, I don't I don't understand why. First of all,
they're in like, you know, the most technology advanced country period, like, yeah,
they couldn't have done in vitro, like there.

Speaker 2 (26:48):
Was no test to babies nothing like.

Speaker 1 (26:53):
So yeah, why ever, Ross, you couldn't get a better
white kid than that?

Speaker 4 (26:59):
I guess because Priests, you know, invented every Ross and
was like, you know what, let's bring this back.

Speaker 1 (27:05):
Wow. Yeah, because I've been searching my brain trying to
figure out whyever Ross other than you know that answer,
because it is it like ever Ross saved to Challa's life?
And then what's up with the whole deal with Mephisto?

Speaker 4 (27:23):
Man, So the deal with Mephisto happened like way back.
Yeah that was in the original run, and I don't
know how that's legit. Like the first issue with Black
Panther is is Everett Ross recalling this time where Black
Panther Outsmart and Mefisto. But while you know he's encountering Mefisto,

(27:46):
he like tricked him into like selling his soul for
a new pair of pants, and like that's like a
recurring joke throughout the run, like he'll just wake up
with no pants or whatever.

Speaker 2 (27:57):
Yes, they brought that back in.

Speaker 4 (27:58):
Issue Too, Okay, but yeah, like it's it's interesting on
one hand. First of all, this book, the first issue
had me like because they, like I said, they tell
the story and all these different snapshots from different periods,
so we're like forty years in the future, sixteen years
in the future, eight years in the past, like all

(28:20):
this going on and like so and then they have
a timeline in the back of the book and that
part is even more interesting to me. And so the
first issue came out and I was like, yo, know,
I got to figure out what's going on. So I
like wrote out the timeline and kind of placed all
the events in order. Issue one we find out Child's
got his white son, like how we get his white son?

(28:42):
So Issue Too is basically the story of how the
white Son came to be. Yes, And like I said,
you know, we had this mysterious narrator and issue one,
this super old pale guy turns out that narrator was
Everett Ross the whole time, and.

Speaker 1 (29:02):
Yes I didn't I guess I got that. And then
I was like, okay, yeah, all right, yeah, okay, I
got it.

Speaker 4 (29:08):
So when I interviewed priest for something else, but this
issue has come out, and the way he said it
was like it should have been obvious who the narrator
was because and like you know, once he said it,
I'm like, oh, I guess this makes sense. Like Ross
was the narrator in the first run, why would Ross
not narrate the coda to the run? But it didn't

(29:33):
come across that way to me either on first read.
But an issue too that it's made very clear, like yep,
this is this is back to You're basically right back
in the Marvel Knights world as it was before every
Ross with a snappy dialogue, all the jokes, you know'tually
insensitive and all that.

Speaker 2 (29:52):
So it's Ross for whatever reason.

Speaker 4 (29:56):
You know, Nicky died and he decided to just marry
or to and sister like that was a replacement of something, right,
Like that's weird.

Speaker 1 (30:06):
But there's a lot of weirdness in this book.

Speaker 4 (30:11):
Yeah, this world is like super chaotic. There's all kinds
of crazy stuff going on. The way Nikki's sister died,
what is the sister's name something with an end, Noel. Yeah,
so the way she dies, the Washington Monument like falls
on her car. Yeah, like it's like what but yeah,

(30:32):
so Washington Monument falls in the car that the maastard baby.
Wakanda adopts the baby and to Chila basically just raises
tobass his own. Now in this timeline, like or in
the back matter, there is this article like almost like
an Encyclopedia entry where somebody is this dude they call
it was William McGregor. So uh, but he's talking about

(30:57):
Wakandan culture and explaining it to the American reader, you know.
And he makes the point that people in America look
up to T'Challa as though he's some kind of hero yep,
because of his outfit, like because he looks like the
superheroes there too. But he's like, he's not a superhero.
That is like his ceremonial garb, and his only objective

(31:21):
is to do whatever's best for his country because he
is a monarch yep. And so that part was super
interesting to me because then it's like, okay, with that
as a backdrop, this is all to child is born
and bred to do. What is it about this this
white baby? Yeah, maybe the tactician in him is like,

(31:44):
I gotta go get that kid and bring him here.

Speaker 1 (31:47):
It does not make sense, man, I'm sorry, like at
least so far, you know. Yeah, and being like from
what I understand because I haven't read all of a
Priest's original run the Elliott Ross of that universe, this
is a bit of a buffoon.

Speaker 2 (32:02):
Mm hmm.

Speaker 1 (32:02):
So it's like you can't imagine, like these are good jeans,
you know, shout out to Sydney Sweeney where you're like,
I'm gonna go get this white baby. I mean, you
could go get Sidney Sweeney's white baby for that matter,
you know. I mean, I'm sure the quality is about
to say, but you know, you can just got to
be a better white baby out there. I'm sorry if
you're gonna like be if you're gonna say, Okay, I'm

(32:24):
gonna have a white monarch of Wakanda out of nowhere
for no reason, like why what would the people think,
you know, where did this white kid come from? It
would be my first question I follows of Wakanda, Yeah,
like how did this happen? And so that's the other

(32:44):
you have no white wife like this white I don't
even I doubt the average of Kanda has any clue
who Elliott Ross is true? True, like any clue, right,
but must be so weird the the when they bring

(33:05):
when they when he brings home the white baby, everyone
is like advising him against this, like I mean, why
why do you have this baby? What are you doing?

Speaker 2 (33:15):
Sir?

Speaker 1 (33:18):
And so I want to see the twist that Chila has.
You know, I don't see how, but I just want
to know that, you know somehow to be a twisted
is that it is made logical sense?

Speaker 2 (33:29):
Yeah?

Speaker 1 (33:29):
Yeah.

Speaker 2 (33:30):
At this point, I'm I'm very much intrigued. Yeah, you know,
like I'm all all the way.

Speaker 1 (33:38):
I can't wait for this book every bore.

Speaker 4 (33:41):
Yeah yeah, and like I guess and in that way,
it's it's brilliant, Like the other book has you feeling
like this right now?

Speaker 1 (33:51):
There are other books different different reasons. This is like Power,
you know where I can't wait to watch new episode
of Power because I just know what they're gonna give me.

Speaker 3 (34:04):
You know.

Speaker 4 (34:05):
So priests characterization up to child has always been like
he's nineteen steps ahead of you, right, yeah, So with
that characterization in mind, I'm like, Okay, what in the
world is the end game that has this as one
of the moves on the chessboard?

Speaker 2 (34:25):
Like and it's like that, I gotta see, I just.

Speaker 3 (34:27):
Wanted to white work kinda you know what I mean.

Speaker 1 (34:30):
But it's like that's not even achievable through this. It's
I keep going back to how the average condo of
must feel like one day, you Know'challa's they're getting old
and then suddenly this white kid shows up and beats
his ass on the waterfall and he's like, because you
had no idea that nobody knew about this white boy

(34:50):
before that moment, right right until he pulled his mask
off the like maybe like the elite knew, but that's
it right, everyone else thought.

Speaker 3 (35:00):
I mean, they gave him a black.

Speaker 4 (35:01):
Name, Like, yeah, well, I think Wakandon knew about the
son because they're saying he raised him as a son.

Speaker 1 (35:11):
He's yeah, so you must have taken him out to
the parking and yeah, but what the okay again, then
with the multiple questions and the average Condon, the Wakandon
inquirer must have been going buck wild with this one, bro,
because you had two black wives and then suddenly you
have this pure white baby, pure white, pure blonde there,

(35:34):
straight blonde hair, blue eyed, white baby, right, Like, I.

Speaker 2 (35:38):
Don't know, but you know what's got me?

Speaker 1 (35:41):
Uh even looks amazing.

Speaker 4 (35:44):
There's a cover they just put out the cover for
issue five in October, and it is you know, baby Ross,
you know, in full black panther guard minus the minus
the the mask, sitting back watching the news with a
cup of coffee, like just super pleased with himself.

Speaker 1 (36:05):
Wait, Baby Ross, Oh, I mean I.

Speaker 2 (36:07):
Mean Kama Katama.

Speaker 1 (36:08):
Okay, Wow, all right, I'm I'm just glad you told
me about it so I can forget and see it
and you know, cry laughing when I see it.

Speaker 4 (36:17):
Like so, And like I said, that's the other thing
that I think is fun about this. It's like I'm
reading this with the context of like all the other
Priests stuff that I've read before, right, And he plays
with race a lot, yes, you know, like Quantum and
Woody even that Black Black Adam series he just had.

(36:39):
Like there's always some like commentary that some twist and
Ross's character is enough. Like alone, it's like, yo, that's crazy,
Like why why is this man's a racist? And that's
the fun part of this issue too, Like you're reading
the narration, he's like, yeah, man, you know, Wakanda still

(36:59):
Wakanda fighting over whatever and people braining hair in the background.

Speaker 1 (37:05):
I'm like, yo, that's crazy.

Speaker 2 (37:08):
That's crazy.

Speaker 4 (37:09):
So I'm like, and Priests is very much online, he's
very much seeing the responses said thing right, he's plugged in.
So I'm like, this just feels like the whole audience
is like on a string being played and it's fun.
It seems fun.

Speaker 1 (37:26):
It seems fun now right now. My only thing is this.
I'm praying not that this turns out to be like
Mark Millar woned, you know, where it's like the joke's
on you at the end, you know, ha haha. I
made all the money, I caused all the controversy, and
then you're left with a you know, white to.

Speaker 6 (37:49):
Yallamm Well, it's set up so that that doesn't happen,
because when T'Challa dies an Issue one, it's like sixty
years in the future and he's still on the throne.

Speaker 1 (38:00):
So let's but what is the whole world to come?
And why is it so chaotic? And yeah, the way
it seems, it seems like white that 'challa does a
lot of horrible stuff.

Speaker 2 (38:12):
Does a lot of damage.

Speaker 4 (38:14):
It's like putting Scar on the throne and age right
or Ja'afar the same same concept. Yeah, Pride rock Jafar
and Agraba, Like the economy is gonna tank, it's it's terrible.
It's gonna pass the big beautiful bill and then they're
gonna see like the of it. Right, And so the
story is apparently of what Ross's kid does while he's

(38:40):
on the throne, how it throws the whole world into chaos,
and then presumably how T'Challa gets the gets control of
the wheel back.

Speaker 2 (38:51):
Now the question is like, is it too little, too late?

Speaker 1 (38:54):
Yeah? Is he gonna right the wrongs?

Speaker 4 (38:57):
Or is he just gonna die having ruined Watanda's legacy
all because he decided to, you know, invite the Fantastic
four over one day for a visit.

Speaker 1 (39:10):
So I mean that, you know, that could be a
good message, you know, as they said right there, you know,
don't ever let him in. But I also don't know.

Speaker 3 (39:20):
That's a that's a pretty you know.

Speaker 1 (39:23):
It's harsh. Oh man. I know everyone out there has
heard about this book.

Speaker 3 (39:29):
It is from our WA.

Speaker 1 (39:31):
Studios, a w A studios. I guess, shout out to
who's over there from USA. Alonzo, my brother saw Alonzo.
Shout out to him. And they're doing a lot of
interesting work over there, and this book is one of them.
This book is flying off the shelves. Everyone's talking about it.
They Choose Violence Sheldon Allen. It's a story of four

(39:55):
black women who decide to choose violence. Literally, they basically
all get fed up. They've been fed up with things
their whole life. It starts off you see them in college,
and you know, they're just tired of everything that we
deal with as black people in America every day of
our existence, and what we've been dealing with, you know,

(40:16):
since the inception of America and probably what we did
them for a long time, and they're just tired of it.
So they say, well, why don't we just you know,
kill someone. When a police officer gets off for shooting
a young black boy, why don't we just kill that cop?
And that's what they think about in college. But then
they decide not to do it, and then years later,
once they're all established, one of them actually becomes a

(40:37):
police officer. Another one I think is an attorney. They
all have you know, successful careers going on, and they're like, well,
you know, maybe it's time now. Another incident happens and
they they're pushed over the edge basically, but they're not
going to just do it haphazardly. They all train, you know,
one as a police officers. So they go to the

(40:58):
shooting range, they start working out, they start planning, they
get their lists, they check it twice, et cetera, et cetera,
until they're ready to go, and then they choose violence.
And I mean they choose it. It is a super
like I talked about out of Alcatraz that has nothing
on the level of violence in this book. This is
not for kids, This is not for the squeamish. This

(41:21):
ain't even for me. Honestly. For a lot of it,
I was even like, yo, this book is just a
bid into the ultra violence, and especially in the second issue,
they really get into how graphic the violence save and
acted on these people, and the different methods of torture
and how they all have their favorite method. Let's just

(41:43):
say one of them involves a spike buildo that they've
named Lexington Steele.

Speaker 2 (41:52):
That's a choice.

Speaker 1 (41:53):
It's a choice, right, And that's how like the first
issue had me, right, I was all in on it.

Speaker 3 (41:58):
I was like, okay, yes, you know, because that's a concept.

Speaker 1 (42:01):
I did a short film back at Howard University called
The mad Face Killer, which was about this dude who
you know, puts on the mad face and starts going
around murdering politicians and lawyers and cops and everything in
that nature. So it's, you know, a dream that we've
all pretty much had at some point, right, you know,
probably or maybe just me, you know, I'm a little touched.

(42:23):
But I also just you know, the mad Face Killer
was just out shooting people. There was no need for
torture and this lexings and steel references and the twist.
I will spoil this because this has actually been spoiled
in all the press and everything. The twist at the
end of the second issue is that a copycat killer

(42:45):
starts going around killing black people in the same fashions
that they've been killing people. I was whelmed, honestly by
this twist. I was like, really, well, to the point
of almost underwhelmed, to the point of almost like disagreeing
with it, because black people in America have been getting

(43:08):
killed in horrific ways since its inception, since before it
was called America, you know, I mean, horrific does not
begin to describe it, and on a scale unbeknownst to
humanity before it's started here. So to the fact where

(43:29):
you know, Nazi Germany copied our methods to instill the Holocaust.
So the idea that you know, for black women killing
some people, would it might inspire a copycat killer.

Speaker 3 (43:44):
True, But the idea that that's.

Speaker 1 (43:46):
Like, oh no, we shouldn't be killing people because we
have a copycat killer is wild because it's not like
if you stop killing people, the cops are gonna stop
killing people. And to me, it doesn't matter how many
cops you kill, the cops are still going to kill
black people. You know that that's just the sad nature
of the system. So yeah, the second is you kind
of had me man where I was trying to like, ah,

(44:07):
I really would love to talk to Sheldon and the
other creators of this book, and I'm definitely gonna stick
it out to see where it goes. But I definitely was.

Speaker 3 (44:16):
Kind of like, I don't know, man, I don't know.

Speaker 2 (44:20):
Yeah, that's that's interesting, all right. I'm not one for
grotesque violence just for the same page all I'm probably
never reading this book straight up, but like the idea
of like people being fed up with the system and
going out, all right, we're going to take matters into

(44:41):
our own hands, and I can get I can get
with that with degree. I agree, right, like.

Speaker 4 (44:48):
If just there being a copycat killer would not be
enough for me to stop that, if that were the mission.

Speaker 3 (44:56):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (44:57):
But yeah, so now I'm I don't know if I'm
curious enough to read it, but you have to tell
me how it is as it is.

Speaker 1 (45:05):
Yeah, I will because it's only five issues, so I'm
going to stick it out for the next story and
see what happens. But I have to say that being
you know, the big twist that you know is turning
to issue three. As we're getting into the second app,
I was kind of like, you know, because they'd already
you know, decided to give up at one point because
they were like, Yo, this ain't working, you know, et cetera.

(45:26):
And then they realized that they basically can't even be
which was. It was like, I had a lot of
questions about the second issue, because the crew decides to
stop murdering because you know, different reasons. You know, one,
they know they'll eventually get caught all this stuff. So
when they stop murdering, it's like they can't be friends again.
And the writer even has a line where, you know

(45:49):
this is coming from the narration of one of the women,
where he says, I'm gonna tell you a secret. Women
can't stand each other, like even as friends, like best friend,
women can't stand each other. M that really struck me weirdly,
Like that really was like, wow, that sounds like some

(46:12):
of that red pill stuff. Yeah, and like basically this
prove of women could not remain friends unless they were
out murdering people.

Speaker 2 (46:21):
Yeah, that's wild.

Speaker 1 (46:22):
Like yeah, and it's not said, you know that men
can't stand each other, which, you know, it made me
feel a little bit better. I mean, untrue, but I
mean I can't stay in a lot of my homies,
so I get that, you know, but like the fact
that you know, we still remain friends without going around
murdering people. And I would not think that most women

(46:44):
need murder to remain friends with other women, right, I
think women are naturally more communal than men. Yeah.

Speaker 2 (46:53):
Yeah, my wife's and mom groups and all kinds of stuff.
Like I can go years when I was talking to
my best friend in the world, no, you know, right, shout.

Speaker 1 (47:02):
Out to my brother Drew, Like, I mean, we talked
more than years, but it has been years of points
and you know, to be interestingly hel together. But yeah,
yeah that. Like I said, there was a lot of
stuff in the second issue where I was kind of like, wow,
I don't know what it's doing. I'm still intrigued. The
level of violence is a little rough for me. I'm
never a fan of torture at all in any circumstances.

(47:25):
So and that's when it's like just you know, cause
first I think, Okay, they're just murdering these chaps school,
you know whatever. But then when they introduce oh no,
we're torturing them in horrible ways, I was like, yo, bro,
they're trying to die at the end of it. It doesn't matter,
Like if you torture them and let them live, maybe,
but you killed them. It doesn't matter how much you
torture them. So you know, like that's for your pleasure

(47:46):
at that point, and That's that's really weird.

Speaker 4 (47:48):
So, like, do these is there any communicated Well, like
I get the why they're killing people or torturing or whatever,
but are they communicating even notes or anything to say like, hey,
we'll stop killing when y'all stop killing black people.

Speaker 1 (48:00):
I think there might have been, but it doesn't feel
like that because when they took a break, it wasn't like,
you know, they'd accomplished anything, because they went back to
murdering later on and nothing had changed. So yeah, no,
I don't think so I had to check. But like
I said, the amount of the description of the level

(48:21):
of torture, and in that line about women not being
friends and the fact that this crew couldn't hang out
until they murdered somebody else, like literally they get back together,
you know through it's four of them, like three of
them planning this murder for one of them's birthday. That's
that's the thing that's weird because a lot of choices, man,

(48:44):
Like I said, a lot of choices are being made
in this book. I was really intrigued by the premise
and in that second issue, you know, but I you know,
I know, we said this is our favorite books in
the month and I don't know, this was one of
my favorites, but it was one of the books for
the most. I was like, yo, now I really got
to see what happens. That's mom. So in a way,

(49:05):
you know, I guess this is my the.

Speaker 3 (49:07):
World to come?

Speaker 2 (49:09):
Bay Okay.

Speaker 1 (49:12):
So yeah, just like the World to come, I didn't
agree with all the choices, but I'm still intrigued to
know to see where it goes. So and they didn't,
at least at least the plague of a White to
Challah on us.

Speaker 2 (49:32):
That was great.

Speaker 1 (49:35):
He never given that down, Bro, Never Ryan Cannon, Now
you're Cannon, Like yo, I was so young, Crew, I
was like, yo, bro, there's going to be a Marvel legend.

Speaker 2 (49:50):
There's absolutely going to be a Marble oh quick.

Speaker 1 (49:52):
And I'm buying and putting them right up in my
Wok conocession. I might have to put him on the throne.
Take off. I got the key on the throne right now.
But why Tolla come out of going up there?

Speaker 2 (50:13):
Oh my god, please give us a white to child
of Marble.

Speaker 1 (50:16):
Oh my god. You can started bugging then yet, But
I need to all right, what's your next book? Yeah?

Speaker 4 (50:25):
So, speaking of torture and grots murders. So Beneath the
Trees where the Right of Spring issue number one came
out this month.

Speaker 2 (50:38):
Uh.

Speaker 4 (50:39):
This being the sequel to the Breakout series from Patrick Horvath,
who writes and draws this book Beneath the Trees where
nobody sees the original series.

Speaker 2 (50:47):
What's about this this bear?

Speaker 1 (50:50):
Uh? She looks like something off.

Speaker 4 (50:55):
Yeah, yeah, something off, like the busy world of Richard Scary,
like something like that, Like this this is a bear
that you grew up watching on Nick Junior. Yes, But
and she lives in like this, you know, mister Rogers
type small town where it's like everybody knows everybody, Like
your local grocery store is like the farmer's market, you know.

(51:15):
You don't go to home depot, you go to the
local hardware store that's like owned by Harry and it's like, oh, hey,
what's up. And so anyway, she's she's living in this
small town. And what we find out in the first
series is that she lives in this small town that's
like all nondescript and everything. But she's a serial killer.
And so she told.

Speaker 2 (51:36):
Every every so often. I don't know if it's every
weekend or what.

Speaker 4 (51:39):
But it's like every so often she will just drive
to like the big city, right, So, you know, let's
say she's from upstate. She drives to the city, kills
somebody because it's like it's city life. Nobody will ever
notice they're missing or whatever. They'll never trace it back
to me, goes back and keeps living her small town life.

Speaker 1 (51:59):
Right.

Speaker 4 (52:00):
So in the first series, what happens is there's a
murder in that small town and it's kind of like,
you know, in the same way that she might do it.
And she's like, if people come digging trying to find
whoever killed this person, they're going to find out that
I'm a killer too. And so she's got to solve
this murder before the police do. And so and she's.

Speaker 1 (52:24):
Trying to everybody's animals, right, and everybody's animals.

Speaker 4 (52:27):
Everybody's yeah, okay, And so it's like, what's the part
that was crazy about the series is like this juxtaposition
of the like, you know, it's all these cute these
cute animals or whatever, but there's all this like murder
going on, like and these people are dying and being
like put on display in the craziest ways. So it's
like that body horror, like all that stuff you don't like, right.

Speaker 2 (52:51):
And and to be fair, I don't either, but the
fact that the animals I was cool with it.

Speaker 1 (52:55):
I was cool, we are right here.

Speaker 4 (52:57):
We are, so, you know, spoil alert, you know, big
cuddly Bear doesn't get caught in the first series. Nice,
and I'm just like, okay, cool, this is a nice
little you know, one shot series or whatever.

Speaker 1 (53:09):
Cool.

Speaker 2 (53:10):
Well, in the sequel, what.

Speaker 4 (53:12):
We get is like the sister of one of her victims,
Like we find out that it's been like eight years
that have passed her brother went missing, and she's been
hounding the police hound in all the hospitals, like okay,
every time a corner report comes along, like let me
go see if this is my brother, trying to identify
the body. This takes place in like the early nineties,

(53:36):
so it's like or the mid nineties, so it's just
at the beginning of like the Internet and message boards
and stuff. And so now she's got like she's on
her computer no, and she's like you know that basically
this girl's full time job is trying to find out
what happened to her. For all she knows missing brother,
and so she gets a tip to go to this

(53:58):
small town of Woodbrook book because there might be some
clues as to where her missing brother ended up. And
so now that brings us back to the town with
the big cuddly bear that's been perpetrating all this And
to spoil the end of issue one, it turns out
the bear is who invited the serial killer invited the

(54:21):
victim's sister to the town.

Speaker 1 (54:24):
Oh God, and you.

Speaker 4 (54:26):
Know, we leave it right there. I don't know why
she invited her. I don't know if like the plan
was like, you know, let's let's kill the sister too.
She's asking too many questions. I don't know. But what
I enjoyed about it was like when I heard they
were doing a sequel, I was like, this book did
not need a sequel.

Speaker 2 (54:44):
I don't need more of this.

Speaker 4 (54:47):
But then, like when you read the first issue, it
just feels like it could have been like issue seven
of the first series, Like it was a logical jumping
out on point, like well, yeah, where, because the whole
the idea yea, was that because these the victims were
all from the big city, they're like these John does
nobody cares about him?

Speaker 2 (55:05):
It'll never come back.

Speaker 4 (55:07):
And it's like, well, no, all these victims, there's got
to be at least there's there's somebody's son at the
very least, somebody's child at the least, right, but they
might have other family loved ones in life. How would
that impact those people? And I thought that was an
interesting enough question to come back for this series. And
it's got me intrigued for a round two.

Speaker 3 (55:27):
All right, just like you felt about their truth violence.
I probably will.

Speaker 1 (55:31):
Never read this book. I read the first issue of
Beneath the Trees. I think my man Dmitri recommended to
me at Anyone Comics because he's an asshole. All right.
I enjoyed it, but again, it was very dark for
everyone out there. It's very dark as hell. But like

(55:52):
BJ said, the art is bright and colorful and cheery,
and it's like, dude, do doo. You know, I'm just
a little bear, and you know, here's my rabbit friend.
And it looks like you said something, but it looks
like there was this kind of like what's to do
with the fist?

Speaker 2 (56:11):
Oh? Arthur?

Speaker 1 (56:12):
Arthur?

Speaker 2 (56:12):
Ye, it kind of looks like.

Speaker 1 (56:14):
It looks like Arthur. And then Arthur's murdering everyone in
horrible ways.

Speaker 4 (56:18):
Right, yes, Like just so, this is one of those
books that is deceptive, right, I have to hide it.

Speaker 2 (56:24):
I have three kids, and it's one of those books.
They will absolutely open it if they just saw. Wow, No,
you cannot read this book. Wow, Like you know that.

Speaker 4 (56:36):
I think we're far enough into this not to get demonetized.
But in that first issue that Ben's talking about, she
kills this dude, chainsaws his body into a bunch of bits,
puts all the parts in like individual paint cans, and
buries the paint cans in the forest like that there, Yeah,
beneath the trees where nobody would see that.

Speaker 2 (56:59):
Now the title makes sense. You did that. I didn't.
I didn't even connect that.

Speaker 1 (57:02):
That's oh no, yeah, I caught it right away. I
can't believe.

Speaker 2 (57:10):
Yeah. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (57:11):
And so I think the art style, like for me,
somehow takes away from the grotesque nature.

Speaker 3 (57:17):
Yes, definitely does.

Speaker 4 (57:18):
It's pretty water colors and stuff like it almost makes
you want to like just like sit there and look like,
oh this is so pretty old.

Speaker 2 (57:24):
Snap, that's an intestine like that. It's how you feel.

Speaker 1 (57:28):
That's the same thing about Out of Alcatraz. So that's
what Out of Alcatraz immediately reminded me of Beneatha Trees.
It's different because it's humans, but it still has that
water colory, dreamy feel where it's like.

Speaker 3 (57:38):
Oh, this is so beautiful. Oh my god, that's horrific.

Speaker 1 (57:41):
You know, that's how it is because it's so beautiful,
and then horrific stuff happens and you're like, oh my god,
this is a very dark book.

Speaker 3 (57:49):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (57:49):
So it's that same type of vibe, gotcha. Yeah, it's
just with humans. And nowhere I have to say, you know,
Beneath the Trees is definitely, at least off that first issue,
like on magnitude scales of more violent than Out of
Alcatras by madness.

Speaker 4 (58:11):
For me, I think Beneath the Trees the original series
was more about the mystery than the murders, and so
that first issue you do spend a lot of time
like seeing her going through all the violence or whatever. Yes,
and in subsequent issues there is still the violence, but
you're mostly seeing like the result of it because like
putting the bodies on display, not seeing the act go

(58:32):
down because they don't want to reveal who it is
doing it.

Speaker 3 (58:35):
Yeah.

Speaker 1 (58:35):
So no, but it's still even the other one we're
just about. They choose violence. I think it's more description
than even Beneath the Trees, deput beneath the treating, like no,
you know, here's this dude chop up like it's a
lot more description, and they choose violence than that. But yeah,
all right, oh, I'm still not going to cheer it up.

(58:58):
I'm gonna save my my goofiness for the end of
it all, and I'm going to talk about a book
that will probably be I don't want to do this
book every month, so I'm just trying to do it
right now and then we'll see how it goes, because
it probably could be in my top four and usually
is for me every month. And that's Power Fantasy. Depower
Fantasy by Kiaren Gillan and Casper Wing God. I think

(59:21):
that's how you pronounce the last name, I believe. So, yeah,
two of the greatest out right now. Kieren is a
friend of mine. Actually now, I've been a fan of
his forever and you know, we became friends over the years,
and so I'm a bit biased, but I also just
think the Power Fantasy is just an excellent, excellent read

(59:43):
every month. Karen knows how to tell a story, you know.
That's the one thing, like Karen really knows how to
give you cliffhanger after cliffhanger, how to give you enough
reveals and enough information where if you're paying attention, you'll
get it. But if you're not paying attention, or to
go right over your head and you'll be sitting there like, oh,

(01:00:04):
why did I not see that? It was right there?
Like he did it to me repeatedly on The Wicked
and Divine. There's so many times where I was so mad.
And if you haven't ever read The Wicked of Divine,
it's to me, probably in my top five comic books
of all time, top three, I don't know, maybe one,
you know, I don't know. It's one of those books
for me. But the Power Fantasy, the series, let me

(01:00:27):
give a quick synopsis of it is about. It's a word.
It's its own world. It doesn't take place in any
other universe that you know. And in this universe, it's
just like our own, except there are six or seven
at any time superpowered people. And when we talk about superpowered,

(01:00:47):
they're called atomics in this universe, and the atomics are
each one of them is equal to the level of
a superpowered nation. Like there's Ettien, a black man telepath
who is Charles the Xavier on crack you know my
man is you know, Charles to the tenth power. Then
there's the Heavy, who is a gravity manipulator who can

(01:01:10):
literally and at one point threatens to throw Texas into orbit.
And so it's a book about these five or six
or seven people who are constantly maintaining this cold war
status between them all because if they ever fought, it
would destroy so much of the world, right, so they

(01:01:31):
have to constantly maintain this thing. So it's a book
about superpower is without any real fights in it, and
there are massive displays of power at certain points, and
a lot of things have happened. It's an alternate universe
type book where where it's going back and forth. It's
jumping around from different times where it's going to end
pretty much in nineteen ninety nine, and it goes back

(01:01:53):
to nineteen forty five. I think it is when the
first time a bomb drops and when the in this
world which creates the first atomics.

Speaker 4 (01:02:03):
Gotcha, I did read this series. I'm trying to remember
how much of it I read. I think the first trade.
I think I might read like first two or three issues.
Oh man, I was intrigued by just the the whole
idea that is, like, all right, you better hope diplomacy works,
because ever go to war.

Speaker 2 (01:02:22):
That's it for everybody.

Speaker 3 (01:02:23):
Yep.

Speaker 1 (01:02:25):
No, it's like I said, I'm a fan of Karen
in general. If you like you know his other work
Wicked and Divine, Young Avengers Die. I think this is
definitely up there with any of them. It's one of
my favorites from him. I've never read read Casper's art,
but I became an instant fan of him. I got
him to do a step for me. I bought piece

(01:02:47):
of art from him. And it's just this book where
things are being revealed. I wouldn't even say slowly, because
it's a lot happens, like in issue ten, we finally
will finally, but the real of Jackie Magus, who is
exactly behind the masch happens. And that's all I'll really say.
But once again, this is one of those things where

(01:03:09):
I kind of noticed there was a similarity. I'm like, yo,
what is going on there? Why do these characters look
like that? You know early on in the series, and
then it all comes together and this issue and like
you idiot, it was right there in front of your
face the whole time. Of course, that's why those two
characters look like that. But it's building to a head
in the next few issues. Karen has talked about different

(01:03:32):
I'm not sure how many how long this book will
go on. He says he has a format where it
could be sixteen issues, or it could be twenty four,
or it could be up to like forty something, So
I'm not sure which Timeline's working on right now where
it issue ten and themes are popping off. I'm like,
I'm really not trying to spoil too much of this
book because it's just one of those books that I

(01:03:54):
think that everyone should give a read if you're intrigued
at all by the concept, because it's one of those
was where things are happening every issue pretty much, where
those are major spoilers, especially as we're getting into this
second arc where there's a lot of revels happening issue
after issue. But man, it's been a beautiful ride so far.

(01:04:15):
Like I said, Casper's art alone, Man, it's just some
of the most beautiful and then horrific art you will
ever see, because, like I say, these dudes have enormous power,
and when things do happen, they happen. At one point
they had to confront this interdimensional being called the Queen,
who was basically trying to bring Heaven on Earth and

(01:04:39):
was succeeding, and then for some reason it felt like
they weren't doing enough. It's not enough in the words
of Kendrick. And when they realized that, they went buck
and that ended with the destruction of England and all
land masks pretty.

Speaker 3 (01:04:53):
Much up to a part of Russia.

Speaker 1 (01:04:56):
So all of Europe and you know, a little bit
of Western A turned nothing.

Speaker 2 (01:05:02):
Wow.

Speaker 1 (01:05:03):
Yeah, And so that's the level that they are on.
You know, when this interdimensional being comes in and shows you, Okay,
this was what happens if any two of us ever
go at it, we lose the continent.

Speaker 2 (01:05:15):
So this, like this series.

Speaker 4 (01:05:19):
Came out basically right on the heels of the Immortal X.

Speaker 2 (01:05:22):
Men, like all that Fall of X stuff, yep.

Speaker 4 (01:05:24):
And you know when it was the reviews then were like, okay,
so if you like the Quiet Council stuff, this is
what Kieran would have done if like he could do
whatever he wanted with the X Men. How accurate is
that statement now that we've got like so many issues in.

Speaker 1 (01:05:40):
I honestly didn't feel it was even that accurate thing,
and I think Karen would agree, because I thought Immortal
X Men and what was an infernal x Men when
they flipped it to the sins of Sinister stuff? Was
Keran just really wilding out, you know, because they go
to its extremes that well, I didn't even enjoy it

(01:06:02):
all that much. I thought some of the you know,
I love the Kacoa era, it is my favorite arab
Edgmond since probably you know, original Claremont stuff and Morrison
of course, but you know some of that with the
dominion and everything, so like all right whatever, and like
Charles and Xavier, you know, commanding galaxies, et cetera. It
just felt a little silly.

Speaker 3 (01:06:23):
Honestly to me.

Speaker 1 (01:06:24):
It was just a little like, okay, you know, it
is that we're in a Sandbots type of situation and
let's all mash these characters together. Yeah, this is not
that at all. This is very methododical. I guess it
is maybe in the sense that if you had the
Quiet Council and what Karen would do instead of doing
you know, let's all mash each other together. But I

(01:06:46):
didn't because it's so different from you know, what happened
in Sins and Sinister and some of his immortal edsmen run.
I wouldn't compare them at all. Okay, Yeah, it is
a very It's a book that takes a lot of
time to really distress the ideals of what is ethical

(01:07:07):
versus what is moral, and things of that nature. And
I actually confronted Karen on it when we interviewed him
about it, because I felt like a lot of the
characters were being ignoring the rules of what Ferris Buhler said,
or they're spinning a lot of isms like Ferris Bueler.
At the end of this film, I think when he's
given one of the speeches, I can't remember what point,

(01:07:28):
but he's like, I don't believe in isms, you know, socialism,
you know this ism, communism, basically saying all these systems
are just systems and you know, humans fuck up, system
placing f up. I'm trying to keep my curse into
a minimum on this.

Speaker 3 (01:07:44):
I'll believe that.

Speaker 1 (01:07:45):
But I challenged him because a lot of the characters,
like at TNS, this black man who's a Teilpath and
I was like, does Etien believe that he's black? And
I was like, I don't think he does. You know,
I think he's above all that because he's just such
an insane level of telepathy. And Karen said no, and
we'll see that. I still have not seen that yet.

(01:08:07):
I'm still not the biggest fan of et End in general,
but I think that a lot of what Etien says
he is. Aten's always someone who says, I'm taking the
ethical way out of this. He's like, I'm not moral,
I'm ethical, so I do the ethical thing, which in
a lot of cases is horrific. But like at one point,
when Heavy is threatening to throw Texas into orbit, he

(01:08:30):
kills the at the end and said, kills the president,
all the President's council, everybody involved in this plot to
kill Heavy, and he does it, you know, with his
telepathy and a whap, all of them die. And he's like, well,
that's more ethical than you throwing Texas into orbit. But
it's still a horrific action.

Speaker 2 (01:08:51):
And he's making these crazy decisions.

Speaker 1 (01:08:54):
Yes, and a lot of what he says and does
to me rings false. It reads of someone who's just
saying it to say, because he even makes one statement
that is really disturbing where he has said he affects himself,
he uses powers on himself, so he doesn't really have
any guilt.

Speaker 3 (01:09:14):
M I'm like, that sounds like a white man no shots,
you know.

Speaker 1 (01:09:21):
But so again, though, I'm quite intrigued. One spoiler in
this issue, two characters say they have three days to
kill at the end, and I, you know, jumped out
of my seat screaming like, yes, it's my two favorite characters.

(01:09:42):
So I think he's gonna kill him both though, But
you know, we'll see what happens. The Power Fantasy All
to Sail Now, it's an incredible book.

Speaker 3 (01:09:53):
I really encourage everybody to.

Speaker 1 (01:09:55):
Check it out. Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:09:57):
I have to get back on that. So my last book,
UH is another serious debut. It is the unchosen issue
from Image Comics. Okay, so this is written and drawn
by David Marquez, who is the artist on Unkenny X
Men right Now with Yiel Simon.

Speaker 1 (01:10:16):
Oh okay, okay, Kenny Unkenny is the one with UH.

Speaker 2 (01:10:21):
The they're in New Orleans with Rogue on.

Speaker 1 (01:10:23):
The team and the New Kids. Is that the New Kids? Yeah? Okay, okay, okay,
I don't really know his art like that, but I
feel like I've seen him on something before that I
know the name.

Speaker 4 (01:10:34):
Probably I want to say he was doing a lot
of covers and stuff too. Okay, you've seen his work
most likely. So that's what had me intrigued about this series.
So the unchosen it's about this young lady named Aida,
and it's I think it's only a four issue mini series,
and to be fair, first issue doesn't really tell us
a whole lot that kind of just drops us in

(01:10:55):
this world. But Aida, uh, they basically is she's in
this world. She's going to like this magical school, Like
basically she's at Hogwarts, right, and she's doubting herself. She's
down on herself because she's not as naturally gifted in
like magic as you know, her peers, and so like

(01:11:19):
there's the Malfoy stand in who's like, you.

Speaker 1 (01:11:22):
Know, just cruel to her that the whole thing is
like she.

Speaker 4 (01:11:28):
Should have the power to like you know, she's trying
to resurrect this bird.

Speaker 2 (01:11:32):
One of her friends.

Speaker 4 (01:11:34):
Comes across a dead bird, so she's trying to like
use magic to bring this bird back to life. But
she can't do it because she's not as gifted. So
the bully kid comes and like basically torments her with
the with the dead bird, like inmateing the bird's body,
and so to retaliate, she just punches the kid in
the face.

Speaker 2 (01:11:50):
And that's where like the world kind of opens up.

Speaker 4 (01:11:52):
What we learn is like she's at this school not
because you know, she's the most talented or gifted or whatever,
but like something happened and the sort of head masters
of this school kind of adopted her, just kind of
brought her in to this school type situation, and she
is basically on the run or they are shielding her

(01:12:15):
from these outside forces that are trying to like capture
her because it is believed by everyone, perhaps except her,
that she's like she's neo, she's the one, like she's
Harry Potter or whatever.

Speaker 3 (01:12:29):
Potter.

Speaker 4 (01:12:30):
Yeah, So it's like the whatever destiny is on her,
they're trying to bring it out of her, and she's not.

Speaker 2 (01:12:38):
She's not seeing how it's gonna how it's gonna work.

Speaker 1 (01:12:42):
For me.

Speaker 4 (01:12:43):
I watched one and a half Harry Potter movies, right,
so you know, I know certain characters and that's kind
of what got me with this was just the way
they talk about magic, right, the ability to use magic
is known.

Speaker 2 (01:13:00):
It's like your mastery of the word, the words of magic.

Speaker 4 (01:13:05):
And so the book actually opens up like this sort
of title page and it just says in the beginning
was the word I mean, I'm always gonna I'm always
a sucker for like religious references, right, Like, Okay, So
because I'm listening to an interview and he's like, he's
not crazy religious. He grew up, like you know, in
a religious household, but he's not really practicing or anything
like that. So it's like, okay, like what what are

(01:13:28):
we going to do with this idea? If we're going
to pull in these religious themes and quote scriptures and stuff, like,
how does that?

Speaker 2 (01:13:34):
How is that going to relate to this world?

Speaker 4 (01:13:35):
So I'm curious of like what the world building is,
who these people are that are after Ada, how long
it's going to take for her to like master her
powers and then like save the day presumably against these
sinister forces. It was enough to be like intrigued for
issue too. I concern though, is that, like I said,
we didn't get a whole lot in anyone beyond what

(01:13:57):
I just told you. And so it's like, is there
enough time to even build this story in four issues
to you know, give it a real you know, rise
and fall. But I don't know is it is.

Speaker 3 (01:14:11):
Are you a black woman?

Speaker 2 (01:14:12):
No, nobody black background background.

Speaker 1 (01:14:16):
Character, but they're they're all white or.

Speaker 2 (01:14:19):
Yeah, everybody's white.

Speaker 3 (01:14:21):
Yeah, I mean David Marquees.

Speaker 1 (01:14:25):
You know, I was expecting you know, those spice up
in there.

Speaker 2 (01:14:30):
Okay, I lied.

Speaker 4 (01:14:30):
So the little boy that she's trying to help resurrect
this bird with is definitely a black kid.

Speaker 1 (01:14:36):
Wait, I did read this book, Okay? I think am
I just confusing that with Christopher Chaos now because Christopher
Chaos erected Bird. I know, I feel like I did
read this book. When when did this drop? This's like
a couple of weeks ago, the beginning of the month.
I want to say, yeah, maybe yeah, because it's been

(01:14:58):
yeah yeah, yeah, I think I think I did. I
ought to go look it up again, but I think
I might have read that because I always, like I said,
if I see a new number one with an interesting name,
I always try and give it read. And I think
I saw the Untros because that's a name where I'm like, okay,
I gotta chet that out.

Speaker 3 (01:15:13):
Yeah, that's just a fire name.

Speaker 1 (01:15:15):
So yeah, all right, I think I'm got to reread
one and then go for number.

Speaker 2 (01:15:19):
Two, because yeah, it was. It was interesting enough.

Speaker 4 (01:15:22):
The uh, all these characters we got on the first
on the cover to issue one, we don't really see
a whole lot from them, so I'm curious to see
how they all play in to it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:32):
Okay, all right, all right, for my last book, I
will finally bring something a little bit more cheerful and uplifted. Well,
I can't say this book is uplifting, but it's definitely
cheerful and hilarious. And I really did not expect to
enjoy nearly as much I expect.

Speaker 3 (01:15:48):
It to not like it.

Speaker 1 (01:15:49):
I went in with like whatever, and I loved it.
God Zilla Destroys the Marvel Universe Issue one by Gary Duggan,
Who's done a lot of X Men stuff which I've
kind of liked and kind of didn't, and Javier Garon
is a penciler. It is exactly what the title says.

(01:16:11):
Godzilla shows up in the modern Marvel Universe and immediately
starts wrecking shop. I loved it. It's just it's it's
like one of those books that knows exactly what it is, right,
like a celestial. I think it's a woken by Godzilla
or Godzilla is a woken by the celestial. So Godzilla

(01:16:32):
attached the celestial and the Narration is sitting there talking
about how the celestial is designed to exists in the
heart of the Sun and the coldness of you know,
interstellar space, but not Godzilla, and then Godzilla tears the
Celestial's head off. But it's that type of book. At

(01:16:56):
one point, more Man gets punched in the face because
all the hero are trying to be mad quiet and
let Godzilla just walk away because they can't do anything
about them, and oh Man like shoots him in the back,
you know, and enrages him again, and so Red just
punches mo Man face like idiot. It's just, you know,

(01:17:17):
it's that type of silliness in this book. I'm not
sure if any of the heroes actually do get murdered
in the first issue, other than the Celestial getting his
head torn off, but Godzilla is wrecking shop throughout the
Marvel universe. I think I enjoyed this because I picked
up the first issue of that Avengerance versus the Alien,

(01:17:38):
which is just I don't know, just like it didn't
do it for me. I never went bad for issue too.
I just like, come on to see avengerance. They should
rub out like a planet of aliens. If they feel
like it doesn't brud they got acid blood. I'm totally stark,
you know, like I literally have no I'm for a god. No,
it's not you know, we're not the same. So yeah,

(01:18:00):
I didn't really enjoy that. I know they had a
spider man versus a Predator. I think that I absolutely
am intrigued because I love all the predator crossovers, Like
Predator versus Archie is one of my favorite books ever.
He spoiler, he murders them all. It was amazing.

Speaker 2 (01:18:14):
Did you read the Predator versus Black Panther?

Speaker 1 (01:18:18):
Oh no, I'm not to go back for that.

Speaker 2 (01:18:20):
That one.

Speaker 4 (01:18:21):
That one was good too, Like I didn't even finish it.
But what I enjoyed was just the Predator had a
legit reason to be fighting Black Panther. That happened, But
that was that was dope, okay. But Godzilla destroys the
Marvel Universes. First of all, I thought this was because
you know they've been doing this Godzilla versus Marvel character

(01:18:43):
here and so when I saw I saw the solicit
for a collected edition of this, first I thought that
was those stories being collected. I am, okay, it was
a separate series. Yes, but I picked up issue one
as well. Yeah, and uh no, it it's just like
you said. I mean, it's just it's not taking itself
too seriously. This is very much like what would happen

(01:19:07):
if Godzilla just came to Manhattan and decided to set
up shop, like.

Speaker 2 (01:19:12):
And it does.

Speaker 4 (01:19:13):
It does spend a fair amount of time just telling
you how much like Godzilla is inevitable and no one
stands a.

Speaker 1 (01:19:20):
Chance of the celestials head like yeah, and no problem.

Speaker 4 (01:19:29):
So the so the rest of the issue is basically
just like you know, every hero you can think of
coming in giving you like two or three lines of
dialogue basically say this. So there's nothing I could do
with this, you know, but for.

Speaker 1 (01:19:45):
Men of them trying to be quiet.

Speaker 4 (01:19:51):
That that was fun for me just seeing all the
different Marvel characters and like, you know, you didn't have
to spend a lot of time doing characterization. But I
feel like he got the voices in the question.

Speaker 1 (01:20:02):
Because read punching more man like you idiot, was just
like that read Like someone asked me today on Threads.
They were like, if you know, because if we were
talking about on fall nerd sure, honor, if you a
fantastic four that it was very nice to see a
more intelligent Johnny Storm than his normally portrayed. And someone

(01:20:23):
was like, well, you know, Sue is smart and Johnny smarter.
Thing is smart. What's the difference. What's reed? Got? I
was like, but he got being an able. He's got
that down, pat bro, That's all. None of the other
fantastic war could they claim to that one, like you know,
being a complete monster read got it? You know what

(01:20:43):
I mean? You got that?

Speaker 3 (01:20:44):
So yeah, no, I felt like this got it down.

Speaker 2 (01:20:48):
Yeah.

Speaker 4 (01:20:49):
Nah, I'm sitting here coming through the issue again, cracking up.
It's it's this is the type of book you need, right, Like, yes,
I'm I'm going through. I got to cut stuff from
my poll list. Like if I don't make cuts, I'm
spending like ninety dollars a week.

Speaker 1 (01:21:09):
Oh god.

Speaker 4 (01:21:11):
So it's like, all right, we got to cut some
stuff off. It's probably not going to make not going
to survive the round of cuts. Yeah, but this is
one of those books that's like, man, you got that
a heavy poll list you got, especially you start pulling
all those indie titles and some of them just like
super serious and existential dread and all that this is
a palate cleanser.

Speaker 1 (01:21:30):
Yeah, yeah, no, because like I said, I did, I
went in with a hateful face, and I think as
I think I saw in a preview, you know that
he tore his head off, and that made me like, nah,
I got to see, you know, because I've read that
line of dialogue where it's like, you know, you can
survive all of this but not God. So I was
all right, this one gets it.

Speaker 3 (01:21:51):
You know.

Speaker 1 (01:21:53):
That was a bit with like you know that first
page that all starts Superman.

Speaker 4 (01:21:57):
You know, just yeah, being like brilliant, which this is
not going to come through a camera, but like everybody's face.

Speaker 1 (01:22:05):
Right, it just they got nothing from working, Like oh
my god, I just said I to be quiet and
try and let him leave. I can't get over that amazing.

Speaker 3 (01:22:24):
He just just hope he goes away, my god.

Speaker 1 (01:22:28):
All right.

Speaker 7 (01:22:30):
So yeah, like like B like BJ said, man, if
you you know, if you got too many of them
darkness books on your pull list, you know, if you're
Like That's how I felt when.

Speaker 1 (01:22:40):
I looked at him. I say, you know, I'm reading
all these you know they choose violence out of Alcatraz,
you know, even the Power Fantasy is you know, very
much morality, you know, ethics, you know, and all this stuff.
I was like, I just need to see this, and
it was just what I needed, Like I need a
book like this every month.

Speaker 3 (01:22:58):
Honestly.

Speaker 1 (01:22:59):
It doesn't have to be to the Other Streights the
Ball University, but every month I need to be reading
something like this that is just utterly ridiculous and honestly
gets what comic books should be, you know, cause that's
to me, Like you can do all that other stuff,
but sometimes you got to get back to you know, ridiculousness.

Speaker 2 (01:23:18):
Yeah, you just gotta read something fun.

Speaker 3 (01:23:19):
Yes, ah, you know, before we get out of here.

Speaker 1 (01:23:23):
Speaking of reading something fun, Jimmy Hendris Purple Hayes co
written by me and my brother Mellow Brown Eisner, nominated
for its colors by the one Justin Prokowitch, with of
course the amazing art by Tom Man Drake is in
stores now, selling out as we speak. The first run

(01:23:43):
is done at production at the publisher. It's over so
The copies that you see in stores right now are
the last of the first run, so go ahead and
get one. If you want to sign copy, hit up
Anyone Comics. We'll put the link down in a bio.
I know BJ has a local common store that he
wants to give a shout out to as well. Sure.

Speaker 4 (01:24:04):
Sure, yeah, if you're in the Raleigh area, you know,
come through Fight or Flight Comics in the Triangle Town
Center Mall. I believe they have copies of this book
on hand as well.

Speaker 1 (01:24:13):
I got to come down there and do some signing, man, real, Yeah,
they would love to have you. Yeah, we'll definitely have
to set that up because I gotta get down there.
How far is Durham from there?

Speaker 2 (01:24:22):
Durham and Raleigh are like neighboring towns.

Speaker 3 (01:24:24):
Oh bruh.

Speaker 1 (01:24:25):
I got to because I just I did a retreat
recently and one of my brothers who I met there
is from Durham, and so that's why, you know, I'm like,
I'm going to every town these people are in.

Speaker 3 (01:24:35):
So I'm down there soon.

Speaker 2 (01:24:37):
You know, you're in Durham less than thirty minutes.

Speaker 3 (01:24:40):
Oh, I'm there. Okay. We will set this up very
soon then be definitely.

Speaker 1 (01:24:45):
All right, before we get out of here, please, you know,
tell the people where they can find you at and
all that good stuff.

Speaker 4 (01:24:50):
Oh yeah, you know, I'm BJ Kicks on all the socials.
If you're looking for my channel, it's called Comics Are Dope.
I named it that because they are so find me
on YouTube and out here in these digital streets.

Speaker 3 (01:25:03):
This will probably be on your YouTube, so that will
actually be watching them right now.

Speaker 1 (01:25:07):
Oh yeah, especially being doing that hit that like and
subscribe while you're here, you know what I mean, All
that good stuff. And I'm DJ ben Imen on all
the socials as well, and you can find me on
at for all nerds as well, on all the Socials.

Speaker 3 (01:25:23):
That's my podcast and show with.

Speaker 1 (01:25:25):
My partner Tatiana King, where we distress geek and pop
culture from the perspective of people of colore and like
we've been saying over the last year, from black people,
because you know what I mean, some of youall people
of color, I gotta get your minds right out there.

Speaker 3 (01:25:40):
So we from black, black, black, and the black people too.

Speaker 1 (01:25:43):
For black people anyway. Yeah, it's for everyone, but it's
from the perspective of the black and I mean black nice, nice, yes,
but thank you to everyone, like I said, for joining
us here on this. Uh, comics are dope and and
comics I cop collaboration. We're gonna have to figure out

(01:26:04):
a better name for it. But you know, there's a
lot of comics and we'll be back next month. Well
this is August by the time, y'all hear this and
see this, but will be back next month for the
best of August as well, and we'll be doing this monthly.
And you know, of course, make sure you check out
both of our channels for more comics every week. We
both do reviews, all that type of stuff all the time,

(01:26:26):
interviews with all kinds of luminous and luminaries, so make
sure you're checking.

Speaker 2 (01:26:31):
Them out for sure, for sure. Thank you guys, Thank you,

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