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Speaker 1 (00:11):
And what's up, y'all, And welcome to another episode of
this podcast that we still don't exactly have a name
for yet. It's a combination of two of your favorite shows,
combination Comics Are Dope, Comics Are Coped, and we're talking
about our favorite.
Speaker 2 (00:29):
Comic books of the month.
Speaker 1 (00:32):
In this case, that would be August twenty twenty five.
I hope everybody out there is doing great, living their
lives to the fullest. I know, it's been a crazy time.
I mean, my man BJ has been going through it himself,
you know, straight up and down. But we're here to
talk about some comic books today, for sure.
Speaker 3 (00:50):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (00:51):
I didn't even read a ton of comics this month.
I got halfway through the month and like my computers
started acting up. I was like, I just kind of
stopped everything to get this fundraiser thing going so we
can just like replace some equipment around here.
Speaker 2 (01:04):
It's overdue, yep. And you've been even selling a lot
of your comics I saw.
Speaker 4 (01:08):
So yeah, yeah, so put a bunch of stuff up
for sale because like you know what, it can sit
here and look pretty, or it can buy me a computer.
Speaker 2 (01:16):
So there it is.
Speaker 1 (01:19):
Well, you know, if you haven't heard already, made sure
you head over to Comics Are Dope, make sure you
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and make sure you support my man's because you know,
like I said, he'd been going through it and he
brings you, you know, really incredible comic book content every
week pretty much, damn there every day. There is too
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many videos already up there, so you know, if you
don't know about it now you do, make sure you
hit the follow and subscribe on it, and you know
we'll get back to these comics much appreciate it, of course, brother,
you know how we do. So what do you have
up first for? You know, our top comic books of August?
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Yeah?
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Yeah, So you know, last month we had a lot
of fun talking about Marvel Knights the World to Come.
So I thought I'd bring back another Christopher Priest's book,
brand new series debut. This is Sonya Reborn is one,
all right, Christopher Priest and Alisandro Miracolo. MM. Now you know,
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I generally stay away from Red Sonya, like the the
double Dutch you have to play to get a Red
Sonya cover. That's not just a complete thirst trap. It's crazy.
So it's like I generally avoid that title, but the
premise of this one is this British lady basically wakes
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up in the body of Red Sonya during the Hyborian Age,
and you know, she has like her little squire dude
who's like a little sidekick on these missions, and the
whole time she's like she has her consciousness, not Sonya's,
and so she's like trying to like, what are we doing? Uh,
she's she's uh, she finds she wakes up like in
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like a pool of bodies and it's like, yo, we
got to get out of here. And the dude's like, no,
you did that, like you know. So it's just it's
a really fun like primer on what sword and sorcery
can be because I've not read a ton of sword
and sorcery.
Speaker 3 (03:21):
It was really cool.
Speaker 4 (03:23):
But before she even gets into Red Sonya's body, we're
introduced to her as like this sort of I don't
know if she's an accountant, a secretary, something like buttoned
up desk job. English lady's kind of like at her
wits end. Her marriage is failing, her husband like you know,
stepped out on her or whatever, and she's got this
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idea she's gonna like go and kill his mistress.
Speaker 2 (03:48):
And so wait, as a regular ask clerk, Yeah.
Speaker 4 (03:52):
Like she's like like she got off work, and it's
just kind of like all right, blah blah blah by
this lady now, but you could tell she out of
her element. And so I don't know if it was
like she was going to kill the lady that lady
was gonna kill her, but either way, there's like a chase.
It gets out of hand and she like falls in
like a subway like rail or falls on the subway,
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and so when she falls onto the tracks, she like
I guess, knocks herself out cold and wakes up as
red Sonya. And so the rest of the issue is
all the high jinks of this proper English lady waking
up in a chain mail bikini and all that. But
I felt like what was just as interesting was everything
that led her to that moment, Like because when you're
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reading this synopsis just thinking it's like okay, cool, proper
English lady is read Sonya, and it's like, well, no,
this lady has like a mean streak of her own somehow,
and obviously she's gonna get brought back to it, so
where she didn't necessarily have the guts to go all
the way with her husband's mistress. You know, it's like
you have to find out real quick if she's gonna
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survive with lizard people and stuff chasing after her.
Speaker 1 (05:04):
So I like, and also the question of what happened
to red Sonya's consciousness.
Speaker 4 (05:11):
Right right, and we don't know that as of yet.
There's no mention of red Sonia's consciousness mm hmm.
Speaker 1 (05:19):
And by the end of the issue, does the squire
figure it out?
Speaker 4 (05:23):
No, the Squire does not know what's going on. The
squire is just like, uh, you know, like the sort
of tone is just like okay, Like every time that
dude talks, just like yo, like what is wrong with you? Like, yes,
we're going into battle, Yes, go pick up your sword,
like screaming these people are gonna kill you. And so
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that's kind of his tone the whole time. But he's
the one basically teaching us how this whole sword and
sorcery thing works.
Speaker 3 (05:54):
So but in a very like annoyed tone.
Speaker 2 (05:58):
M m all right, So it doesn't sound like as
obviously as wild as.
Speaker 1 (06:03):
The world to Come was, if you you know, didn't
hear us talking about that last month. Make sure you
go and check that out as well.
Speaker 4 (06:09):
But there's no racial hijinks to be had, and I
think you know to that point. You know, Priest has
always talked about how he doesn't want to be like limited,
you know, to like just giving black characters or whatever.
I got stories like just let me tell the stories,
and this is one of those, like there's a controversity.
Speaker 3 (06:31):
To be had.
Speaker 4 (06:32):
There's no like, oh Man red Song, he's a black
girl now, right, Like it's none of that. It's just
a really fun and funny comic book, right.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
All right?
Speaker 1 (06:44):
Yeah, I yeah, just like you, I've read like sparingly
Conan and whatnot throughout the ages. I know Titan has
a line of Conan comic trying now looks like Dynamite
as well. But yeah, I'm just I'm a Sword of
Sorcery fan, you know, Dungeons and Dragons, grew up on
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all of that. Of course, I don't know. I just
never got that deep into Conan, you know. It's one
of those things I read the Wikipedia of more than
I ever read any comic books or any of that,
or even novels anything from it.
Speaker 4 (07:16):
Funny enough, while we are on this call, I am
exporting a deep dive into Conan comics because, like you,
I've not read much of it at all. Titan sent
me a bunch and so I went read the Wikipedia page,
then read a bunch of these comics, and it's just like,
all right, cool, here's all the Conan you missed in
the last almost hundred years. Definitely interesting stuff, but it's
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like some of it's so glorious. Yes, I got preschoolers
so again.
Speaker 1 (07:45):
I once read a Conan book way back when I
was a kid, and I'm in a comic and this
dude got his tongue cut out, and I was just like,
all right, this is not for.
Speaker 2 (07:54):
Me, you know.
Speaker 1 (07:54):
As a kid, it was like nope, nope, you know,
and that image just haunted me all my life ever
since then. And that's one of those things. So I
was like, nah, I'm not reading this. So I never
read that much.
Speaker 2 (08:04):
Ponin got you, all right, So what'd you read? First? Up?
Speaker 1 (08:08):
I read this series just recently finished its fourth issue.
It's Los Monstros Monstros, Lost Monstros, Los Monsters not sure
how you pronounced it, The monsters basically and it's a
nineteen fifties I think I would compare it to if
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you've seen Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Right, remember how Roger
Rabbit had Tunetown. This is like Monstertown and a Monstertown.
It's filled with all the classic basically, the universal monsters,
the draculas, the vampires, the werewolves, the creature from the
Black Lagoons, the mummies, all those type of you know,
creatures and monsters live in this monster town. And the
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story follows a detective because it's a classic noir, you know,
nineteen fifties detective shoe story where this dude is out
trying to find what happened to you know, a damnseul
in distress basically. And I really enjoyed the first four
issues because, you know, set up this world very well.
The art is really dope, and it just that classic,
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you know, like I said, Who Framed Roger Rabbit type tale.
And it all wraps up by the fourth issue. It
seems like there's going to be more from the story.
I hope there's more from it, but I just really
enjoyed it as a real kind of a throwback type story.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
But I got to just really shout out the art man.
Speaker 1 (09:36):
The art by Jesus Marino was just really beautiful, really
detailed line art, and really expressive in all the characters.
It just gives you that nineteen fifties feel but also
gets the look and feel of all those.
Speaker 2 (09:52):
Classic Universal Monsters. So really enjoyed it.
Speaker 1 (09:57):
I've read all four issues to catch up, actually, because
I read the first issue in the first drop, and
then I kind of missed the last two, and then
four came out in August, so I caught up on
that and really enjoyed it.
Speaker 2 (10:09):
Really dope serious, gotcha?
Speaker 4 (10:11):
So are you a big Universal Monsters fan, because I
know they've got like the is it? I think it's
Boom has been printing a bunch of like Universal Monsters
short stories as of late.
Speaker 1 (10:21):
Nah, not especially that it's just like way before my time.
I remember what was it, the Invisible Man reboot from
a few years ago, because they've been trying to get
that Dark Universe joint off the ground from forever and
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that Invisible Man reboot that was horrifye that was definitely horrifying.
I stipped that Wolfman joint that this came out. I'm
usually a big werewolf fan in general. That's like more
of my joints where wolves, but like my vampire stuff
is Lost Boys, you know what I mean. That's like
my Pinnacle of Vampire and now Centers Centers and Lost
Boys on my two peak vampire experiences in life. And
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now all that Bella you know, Laguzzy or I don't
even mispronounced my name man's name, but yeah, now that's
way before me, no gotcha?
Speaker 3 (11:15):
Yeah, okay, Well that that's low monstrous. Yeah, first story
arc just wrapped up. That's dope.
Speaker 1 (11:22):
Yeah James Robinson. Oh, I didn't even realize it was
about James Robinson. Honestly, I was more loving the art
than even peeping up who wrote it. But yeah, James
Robinson wrote it. Very dope, So yes, they get more.
You know that man sells books, so right, yeah dope. Okay,
So my next one series been on going for a minute.
This is Joshua Williamson's Superman Issue twenty nine came out
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last month and josh Williamson and Dan Mora. The colorist
is Alejandro Sanchez.
Speaker 4 (11:53):
So if you read Absolute Power, it's that same art team.
Absolute Power was the big event last summer where Amanda
Waller tried to steal everybody's powers.
Speaker 1 (12:05):
Oh okay, I did read a couple of issues that yeah.
Speaker 4 (12:09):
Yeah, that basically kind of led us to the All
In Special.
Speaker 3 (12:15):
You know, where dark Side tried to come back.
Speaker 4 (12:17):
They kind of like knocked him back for the time being,
and they're kind of in a holding pattern, like they
set up a new Justice League watch Tower and all
this stuff.
Speaker 3 (12:25):
So that's kind of the state of the DC universe
right now.
Speaker 2 (12:28):
Yea.
Speaker 4 (12:28):
And so in the publishing initiative, it's been called all
in since what October last year, so or just about
a year into that status quo.
Speaker 3 (12:37):
And to be honest, it's felt like you could kind
of read.
Speaker 4 (12:40):
Whatever you want or none of it and be okay,
because they did Absolute Universe stuff as well. So for me,
the DC universe has kind of been like Men, depending
on who you're a fan of, and but in Superman,
Superman is like they're gearing up to tell whatever the
next chapter of this absolute universe story is. Because if
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you read the All In Special, basically it's teased that well,
it's established that there are these two universes. There's the
regular DC universe that's powered by Hope, and then there's
this alternate DC universe that is ruled by dark Side
and sort of driven by like that sort of fear.
So that's where Absolute Batman, Superman, Wonder Woman, all of them,
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they live in that universe. And you get this idea
that eventually those two universes are going to collide, I
mean course, right, and so now it seems like in
the pages of Superman, we're gearing up for that collision.
Speaker 1 (13:40):
So all right, I'll just have one question there, because
DC has always had the multiverse, right, yeah, and so
what happened to Like isn't there a metal universe or something?
Speaker 4 (13:50):
And yeah, so that part I'm I'm a little bit
lost on. Yeah, I think, like the comic bookie explanation is,
somehow when dark Side came back this last time and
they however they dealt with him, it basically collapsed the
multiverse exception of this.
Speaker 2 (14:10):
Good one and bad one.
Speaker 1 (14:11):
And that's okay, yeah, because this is a bit side.
But I've been reading the DC History, the New I'm
not sure the name of it, but it's a new
series of DC's putting out. I think Darwin Cook is
doing it where it's like the New History of the
DC universe and it basically is saying that because there's
no more Earth too or any.
Speaker 2 (14:32):
Of that type stuff.
Speaker 1 (14:33):
It's like the Justice Society was on the same Earth
or right, yeah, et cetera.
Speaker 2 (14:37):
Okay, cool, So yeah, so all of that.
Speaker 4 (14:41):
There's been so much happening in the DC universe, but
it's like, I feel like there hasn't been a unifying
book to stay on top of just the universe as
a whole.
Speaker 2 (14:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (14:50):
But in Superman, basically at the end of the All
In Special, we got this tease of the other side
of the universe and Booster Gold our link between the
two universes, so why not and right, and so he
gets stuck in the dark absolute universe no, with a
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legion of superheroes that has been influenced.
Speaker 3 (15:15):
By Dark Side.
Speaker 4 (15:16):
Okay, so like in this absolute universe, it's Dark Sides Legion,
and now Dark sized Legion has just popped up in
our universe in the pages of Superman.
Speaker 2 (15:29):
Oh okay, okay, so.
Speaker 4 (15:31):
An issue twenty eight, which it has been. If you've
been reading the whole summer of Superman stuff, it's been
really good. That's probably what I'd say you need to
read to understand the DC universe right now. Yeah, since let's.
Speaker 3 (15:43):
Say issue twenty five.
Speaker 4 (15:45):
But basically they've established that, you know, Superman knows that
the world is gonna be okay because he can travel
back and forth to the future and see the Legion
of Superheroes and they've been inspired by him, and their
society is so much better in all this right in
the far future. So when Saturn Girl pops up at
Metropolis and is evil, then it's like, okay, well, at
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what point in history did the world become this because
right now everything's bright and cheerful in Metropolis. So last
issue we got a surprise appearance from Superboy Prime. After
we got this dark appearance of the Legion Superheroes, Superboy
Prime shows up and it's like, hey guys, it's me,
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DC's Deadpool.
Speaker 3 (16:31):
Let's go on an adventure.
Speaker 4 (16:33):
And so in issue twenty nine, it's basically like you're
getting the origin of Superboy Prime, well him retelling his
origin and then trying to fight alongside Superman against this
like to prevent whatever this dark future is from happening,
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and so all of it is clearly going to lead
up to whatever this new event is. I think they've
got a an absolute villainy one shot something like that.
I can't remember what it's called, but absolutely bad people.
It's coming out. It's on FOC this weekend, right, so
that that's coming, but basically out. The point is just
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it's exciting. It feels like an event. When Dan Laura
Dan Morra is, I don't know, they got him like
locked in the basement somewhere because he's drawn like everything
and like doing covers on everything.
Speaker 3 (17:27):
But they'll put him.
Speaker 4 (17:29):
They'll usually put him with like Tamra band Villain or
like some other colorists who has like really bright palettes.
When they put him with Alejandro Sanchez, it just feels
a lot more epic. It feels grim like there's higher stakes,
and that's that's where we are in this book. So
I'm enjoying Superman right now. And yeah, usually I'm a
Batman fan, but this one's got it.
Speaker 2 (17:52):
M Josh, they did Birthright right, that was that was
their first intro.
Speaker 1 (17:58):
I interviewed them back then. Oh, I'm Birthright's one of
my favorite comics. Image and I've always loved Josh and
they're writing they did a flash run right now, they
got Superman popping, so all right, you know that's good
to hear that, you know, they got it together. I
myself have not cared about most of the absolute uh DC.
I know Absolute wonder Woman is pretty good. I gotta
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get back into that. At some point I did not
like Absolute Superman like that. It was like, all right, cool,
you know, and Batman was even just that shit's just
hilarious to me.
Speaker 2 (18:32):
That's like so over the top of ridiculous.
Speaker 4 (18:35):
And when I'm still following, yeah Superman and wonder Woman,
Batman I'm enjoying, and the other two I wasn't even
like not enjoying. I just felt so far behind. I
was like, doesn't make sense to keep buying these.
Speaker 1 (18:48):
I want to get back into the Martian Manhunter one
because I really enjoyed the first issue of that, and
it was the kind of weirdness that I like Green
Lantern that did nothing for me in the first issue.
Speaker 2 (18:58):
Sorry, you know that's my man's but yeah, just didn't hit.
Speaker 1 (19:03):
Yeah, but you know, I'll probably check out some of
this crossover whenever it drops. Superboy Prime is one of
those characters like I've read him back when what was
that countdown and all that stuff? You know, that was
like my prime DC riot, I mean reading years and yeah,
Superboy Prime was hilarious to me when he first came
out and how he was just murdering people left him
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right and just complaining about everything. So the tracks that
he would want to fight a dark version of the
DC universe.
Speaker 2 (19:32):
That definitely tracks because he hates.
Speaker 1 (19:34):
All that darkness, even though he simplifies all that darkness,
which is the hilarious part of it.
Speaker 4 (19:40):
Right, right, So, I think the first time I read
Superboy Prime it was during death Metal, like this special
one shot where he was basically coping with the fact
that he didn't exist anymore but was forgotten or something.
Speaker 2 (20:00):
I don't know.
Speaker 4 (20:00):
I remember it like having a way more heart than
it should have, but hit for me the same because
I didn't read all the stuffing that came before.
Speaker 1 (20:07):
Okay, yeah, no, the stuff that came before was trying
of like really over the top. Like when super Boy
Prime was first introduced, he was like so over the top,
and he had this armor and he was straight I mean,
he straight up flies.
Speaker 2 (20:19):
Through this character.
Speaker 1 (20:20):
It was a random DC character, but straight of flies
through them, murders people left and right. I mean, all
these people that didn't murder him. You know, it's like
he's tearing one person apart and shooting another person with
this heat beans he was just cleaning out DC's closet.
Speaker 2 (20:35):
Basically got you. Yeah, every Rando in the world.
Speaker 1 (20:39):
All right, we'll come back to Superman in a second,
but I want to jump ship for a second to
probably what is my favorite book this month, and that
is or Lie O r l A.
Speaker 2 (20:52):
Because I honestly thought it was o lie for.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
The for the local Hip Hop Lyrics Archives.
Speaker 1 (20:58):
No, no, no, this is Orla oh or La from
Mad Cave Studios author John Leees, illustrated by Sally can
Train Can Tarano. I hope I didn't butcher that, but
I probably did. Colors Deborah Kelly and Letterer, Lucas Gattoni,
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and I probably butchered all of that. But basically, Oilerbard
is the main character. She's a young woman, an antique restorer,
romance novel enjoyer and keen birder you know what I mean.
She is a straight nerd, you know, just living her life,
but you know, enjoying what she enjoys. And she has
a secret. You know, she's like searching for true love,
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you know, going out on dates and all this stuff
can't find it, you know, obviously the romance novelists.
Speaker 2 (21:49):
You know, the woman who works and antiques, you know.
Speaker 1 (21:52):
Kind of quirky, all that type of stuff and attracts
a lot of bum ass ninja's, you know, basically sadly,
as most women do, because there's a lot of bum.
Speaker 2 (22:03):
Ass ninjes in the world.
Speaker 1 (22:05):
Yes, sad to say, you know, truth, he told, you know,
one of my favorite sayings.
Speaker 2 (22:09):
Men are trash.
Speaker 3 (22:10):
So she's the main main character in the Tyler Perry movie,
got it.
Speaker 1 (22:15):
Yeah, But this is like the ultimate twist of a
Tyler Perry movie, because you know, Tyler Perry would have
this twist. We flipped because the twist is Orla has
a monster inside her that she calls the Ick, and
the it comes out whenever a bum ass ninja becomes
a bum ass ninja, basically whenever a man goes too far,
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out comes the Ick and it is a giant, horrible
monster that easily devours human beings. And so it's usually
the quick end of her dates. As you know, they
don't go too well well, yes, like I said, great
fantastic set up in the first issue. And then the
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bid twist is that in the By the end of
the first issue, after we've seen you know, the it
come out and deal with a dude who definitely deserved it,
she meets a young man who she actually starts liking
and really feeling. And he asked her to question, huh
so Boris Kojo No, yes, Boris Cocho asked her to
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go out on a date. And that's the end of
the first issue. With the ick lurking in the background.
Will he be Boris or will he be.
Speaker 2 (23:32):
The practice the one.
Speaker 1 (23:33):
The lights dude who cut his dreads, who got them
green eyes? He usually plays a monstrous dude too. Okay, yeah, yep.
Speaker 4 (23:41):
Yeah, I'm always down for comics through the Lands of
Tyler Perry.
Speaker 1 (23:52):
But like I said, if it was Tyler Perry, the
woman would get eight for doing anything that's true, you
know what I mean.
Speaker 3 (23:57):
They would wait till issue five.
Speaker 1 (24:00):
They would have made her suffer first, of course, you know,
ten terrible days, and then she gets eight by a dude.
Speaker 4 (24:06):
And then just the last page is just and she
died a slow and miserable death.
Speaker 2 (24:10):
Yeah, and I should have gone to church, she screams,
and she dies.
Speaker 3 (24:17):
Oh God, you only get this here. This is why
you watch us.
Speaker 1 (24:22):
Comparison of Oiler to Tier Perry movies is something you're
not going to get anywhere else, that is for sure.
But no, for real, this is one of my favorite
comments of the most. I love a good romance comic.
I famously you know, harped on how damn It? And
I can't remember the name of the book right now.
I'll come back to it in a second, but this
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is one of my joints so far. And like I
said last month, if you have a weird title, I'm
gonna check out your number one and Oiler with the
capital exclamation point. I was like, okay, I gotta read this,
and I was pleasantly surprised and really enjoyed it. So
I'll be back. And you know, I'm not gonna try
and talk about the same book month after month, but
I'm definitely going to at least give this a mention
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next month because I want people to read this and
check it out. So Orla from Mad Cave Studios a
boy girl on her hungry.
Speaker 2 (25:11):
Monster the same What a sad line, right? Okay?
Speaker 4 (25:18):
So should we talk about the book we both read
now or why not? Yeah, let's do it all right?
So I read Ancestral Recall Issue one. This is written
by Jordan Clark with or by Attagoon ilhn mm hm.
Both of these names. These both of these gentlemen were
a member or members of the Milestone Initiative Talent Development
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program that uh Is Colon and Reggie Huglin put on.
Speaker 3 (25:46):
Nice, So that's where they met.
Speaker 4 (25:49):
This is their creator own title from a Hooy Comics,
and it's basically about this dude who is a painter,
like a world renowned painter, and who's he's married to
this older lady who's basically his manager, and long story short,
she goes missing, and so when he's trying and he's
it's the way it's set is like she's he's kind
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of displaced through time and so he's waking up just
like where am I?
Speaker 3 (26:16):
What is going on?
Speaker 4 (26:17):
Trying to figure it out and get back to his wife,
who's clearly like his grounding force in life. And as
he's trying to make his way back or figure out
what's going on, he keeps find himself in these situations
like fighting different people and stuff like that. But his
power is I guess we'll call it ancestral recall. But
he's basically recalling the strengths and abilities of all these
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different figures from black history. And you know, as someone
who studied black history, I was really surprised by the
amount of names that come up in this book that
I had not come across prior to reading this book. Yes,
like there was one as like the first like Black
Private Eye that like basically inspired the entire like film
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noir genre.
Speaker 2 (27:07):
But I was just talking about in Littlest Monstrous, so
straight up that same yeah, Like and it's like I
didn't even know there was it was a black dude
doing that.
Speaker 1 (27:15):
I didn't know the inspired the whole film their yeah genre.
Speaker 3 (27:20):
Yeah, it was like in.
Speaker 2 (27:25):
Just so this is all this racism is killing me inside. Lord,
this racism is killing me inside.
Speaker 4 (27:36):
Usually right, like a book like this, you know, for
all the talk we're gonna get a like wokeness and
all whatever. Right for me, it's so enlightening, Like and
you know, I interviewed Jordan and he was telling me, like,
you know, some of these figures he knew about, he
learned about in classes or whatever, and some of these
he found just doing research for this book. But the
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way like again because he's like he has this power
and they'll just do like a little caption on the
screen like, oh, this comes from that dude. So then
you look it up like an editor's note, the same
way you will look up an editor's note, and you're like, wait,
so the dude that inspired the whole film the war genre,
he's a private eye that used to like record his
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tapes and like how he's thinking about cases and stuff
like that, or and he would like give these seminars
and stuff and basically like some white lady just like
wrote it all down and then like sold it the
Netflix based like, and that's how the genre was born.
Speaker 2 (28:38):
Like I'm looking at it right now.
Speaker 1 (28:40):
It's Samuel Marlow, the first black private eye in Los Angeles,
inspiration for Philip Marlow. And I always know about Philip Marlow,
and I think I might even heard of Samuel Marlow
before this, but I've definitely heard of Philip Marlow.
Speaker 2 (28:53):
And oh this phrase system is yeah, yeah, killing me
in son Lord, killing me insad.
Speaker 1 (29:06):
Yes, And this is also one of my top four
books in the month. You know, we did not distress
this before we met up to do this recording. We
both always you know, read our books and then decide
and we're both like yo, this book. And I'm actually
happy for that because this is one of those books
that I feel like really needs some love and attention
because it's a creator owned book, it's from two brothers.
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And then it also it's like that's the greatness of
like once again blackness, we are not exclusive, you know
what I mean? Because one of my favorite things about
this book is the character Myron Bayjun Byron Jung Myra
Myron Jungi probably a sixteen year old Korean Puerto Rican
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young woman who helps out the main character and goes
on this adventure with him to help find his It
seemed white, and it's so dope to see.
Speaker 2 (30:02):
A Korean Puerto Rican, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1 (30:04):
That's such a great combination, right, and to see that
represented in this book. And I know already just from
how the creators are showing black history that they're going
to get into her history their history.
Speaker 2 (30:18):
Just as much, and that's just really dope. Man.
Speaker 1 (30:21):
And the art, man, I really want to shout out
the art because it's not that anime feel but also
a very you know, the blackness is there, and then
like the switching of tones for the different eras like
when you go to the black and white film noir
of Samuel Marlow that is fire, and then later on
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there's other different ones, and I know we're going to
see all this different variation with the art the colors
of the Fantastic Job as well. Definitely, like Oiler was
my favorite book because of its wildness, but this is
probably my second, or you know, tied with it, because
it's just such a oat book, such a dope concept
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and I really really want people to read this.
Speaker 2 (31:06):
Support this joint. Who's the publisher of it comics.
Speaker 1 (31:11):
Yeah, so please check out this book Ancestral recall. It
also has two dope pieces in the back from two
other creators, Ackerman and Garyoso, and they're like, I guess
you would call them experimental comics because there are a
lot of texts with some images, not like more traditional comics.
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But that's always dope when you get so much content,
you know, I love comics like that where you get
like different stories in the back or different types of
stories all that.
Speaker 3 (31:42):
Yeah, it's like a straight up illustrated short story.
Speaker 2 (31:46):
Yeah. And there's two of them, yeah.
Speaker 4 (31:48):
Which is ironically you get a lot of those in
Konam magazines, But yeah.
Speaker 2 (31:55):
I did not notice.
Speaker 3 (31:57):
Yeah yeah, Ancestral recall.
Speaker 2 (31:59):
No, it was.
Speaker 4 (32:00):
It was one of my favorites, and it was like
I had to go back because I didn't realize how
long ago it came out. Issue Too just came out
this week as we're filming this. Nice, so go pick
that up. I read this, you know, back when FOC
had come up, so I didn't realize Issue one had
come and gone. Issue Too was already out. It's going
to be a five issue mini series.
Speaker 1 (32:23):
Okay, dope, dope. I wasn't sure how long it was
to go for. Yeah, oh man, I want more than that, right, Yeah,
Like this feels like something that could go, you know,
for a bit longer than just five issues.
Speaker 2 (32:34):
For real. This is a strong concept.
Speaker 3 (32:38):
You know, I did.
Speaker 4 (32:39):
I didn't put Bitter Root on my list this month
because it was the finale and okay, you know it's like, well,
you can't go by it, although the trade is on
FOC this week, so you could go pick it up.
Speaker 2 (32:50):
Yeah, well, give that dimension, of course I could.
Speaker 4 (32:52):
Yeah, So bitter Roote the next Movement Samford Green, David Walker,
Chuck Brown. Uh, Basically, if you read bitter Root, then
you know, it's like this family of monster hunters and
the monsters are people infected by the state of racism.
And so first volume was fifteen issues long. It's set
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during the Harlem Renaissance period, and so it's like, you
got this family from New York and they're traveling like
down south in other areas hunting these monsters. Well, the
next movement basically takes the next generation of this family,
sets them in nineteen sixties Mississippi, and you know, of
course you know what ensues.
Speaker 3 (33:33):
So rac racial hygiens. Yeah, that's what we'll call it.
That's what we'll call that.
Speaker 4 (33:38):
The first issue as a monster showing up on one
of the freedom rides, like wow, yeah, yeah, I've read
the first issue. Yeah it was. It was amazing, amazing
that series. But the whole five issues has wrapped up
and you can get it if you are looking to
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pre order it. It's not just listed as bitter Root
the Next Movement. It's listed as Bitter Root Volume four,
which has me rethinking my choice to sell my original
trade paperbacks because now I'm gonna have this big hardcover
and then a book this as volume four, and it's
gonna bug.
Speaker 2 (34:13):
Me all right.
Speaker 1 (34:18):
Yeah, so bitter Root the next movement, make sure you
order you know, this trade paperback. If you haven't, you know,
got the rest of you won't have the same agonizing
feeling that BJ is going through right now. But you
know you can definitely get that trade. And yeah, Bitter
Root is always one of my favorite series. Definitely worth
going back and picking up the original trades as well.
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I think it's an option for a series or something.
So you know, I want to.
Speaker 3 (34:45):
Say Regina King is directing the movie or producing it.
Speaker 2 (34:49):
Hey, all right, all right, let's go oh, let's go. Okay.
Speaker 1 (34:53):
That's good to hear because you know things that option
and then you don't know if they're gonna make it
all the way. So you know that's some that's some
names behind it. So that's good to hear, right, very
good to hear. I brought that up, My bad.
Speaker 4 (35:05):
I brought up Bitter Root because if we're fighting monsters
of racism, it's like you could set that book at
any time and there's going to be racist to depict, right,
and so it's like the next movement's over, the original
one is over. I feel like if we're going to
do a volume three, we got to set it in
like twenty sixteen Charleston or something, but.
Speaker 3 (35:24):
You know the uh. But with ancestral recall, it's the
same thing, like.
Speaker 4 (35:30):
There is an unlimited number of you know, hidden figures
that we can draw powers from.
Speaker 3 (35:35):
Like that series could easily go like thirty issues.
Speaker 1 (35:38):
Yeah, and then, like I say, when you add into
other characters, like you know, the Korean Shorty, Korean, Puerto Rican,
you know, if she starts an ancestral recall on herself.
Speaker 2 (35:49):
Yeah, you know, man, No, it's a great concept.
Speaker 1 (35:53):
I hope. I hope that just just the first four
or five issues whatever, and then we get a sequel
out of it, you know, much like we're better route
because I really want to see more from this book
than just five issues.
Speaker 3 (36:04):
Agreed.
Speaker 1 (36:05):
Yeah, been really all three of these books are some
of my faves. You know, they're all like tied for
favor of the month. And this one is Superman the
Kryptonite Spectrum. I hope this shiny ass proper is even
showing up on the screen right here. It's from DC's
Black Label, which is DC's way of like they used to.
Speaker 2 (36:27):
Have Vertigo and else Worlds.
Speaker 1 (36:31):
I think, I don't even think they're doing else Worlds anymore. Right,
it's all black label now.
Speaker 4 (36:35):
Well somehow black label else Worlds and Vertigo all exists.
Speaker 2 (36:40):
Now.
Speaker 3 (36:42):
I had no idea black black label.
Speaker 4 (36:46):
The way I understand it is like out of continuity
and mature superhero stories, Verto was still going to be
your weird creator own stuff, okay, characters and concepts, and then.
Speaker 3 (36:59):
Whatever else world is more like it's going to be
like you know.
Speaker 4 (37:03):
The superheroes, you know, but in crazy situations, and then
they're retro fitting a bunch of other titles to be
else Worlds. So like, uh, Dark Knights of Steel is
considered else Worlds and it was basically like the DC
universe with like a game of thrown.
Speaker 2 (37:17):
Skin over it. Oh weird, I missed that one.
Speaker 4 (37:20):
That was actually really good time wow, same dude that
wrote a deceased Okay, that was really good. I'm trying
to remember there's something else that is just now started
coming out that is has the DC else World's label
on it.
Speaker 2 (37:33):
I can't so where it's something to be like Red sun.
Speaker 3 (37:36):
Beat that would be an else Worlds.
Speaker 1 (37:38):
Okay, yeah, all right, cool, all right, Well Superman the
Kryptonite Spectrum issue number one is by w Matxwell, Prince
Martin Razzo, and Chris O'Halleran, and they are the creators
who did Ice Cream Man, which is I think it's
from Image Comics.
Speaker 2 (37:57):
It's a horror series. I read like the first issue.
Speaker 1 (38:00):
But I'm not a horror person at all, so that
was pretty much my whole exposure to it. I thought
it had some great art and everything, and it was cool,
but I moved on immediately now then not ever go back,
and they had a lot of issues at that joint too,
but now I'm good. Superman The Kryptonite Spectrum is the
complete opposite as people longtime listeners and for all nerds
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know Superman. All Star Superman by Grant Morrison and Quietly
Frank Quietly is just It's one of my favorite comic
books ever. It's probably in my top ten comics. It's
definitely my favorite Superman story, as much as I love
things I've read Son and Whatever Happened to the Man
of Tomorrow. All Star Superman is just to meet the
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peak of Superman and Superman The Kryptonite Spectrum has that
same feeling, like immediately I was getting that feeling from this,
and I'm just like, oh, this is great, this is
what I'm looking for. And basically the story of the
Kryptonite Spectrum is in the title Superman gets he finds
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four different new colors of kryptonite, and he enlists Batman
to help him as he experiments to figure out what
they are, because he's like, I got.
Speaker 2 (39:14):
To know what these do to me before the other night.
Speaker 1 (39:17):
Lets Luthor knows what these are doing to me, And
of course during the time, Luthor knows about these new
forms of kryptonite, so he's sending things to bother and
attack Superman while Superman's trying to do this.
Speaker 2 (39:30):
There's also a relationship with Lois Lage going on in
the background.
Speaker 1 (39:33):
And it's just a really dope first issue because in
the first issue he gets exposed to I think it's
purple kryptonite, and the purple kryptonite affects his experience with time,
where like how we were talking about ancestral recall, just
like that he's kind of out of time. And so
it uses a lot of ill things about the coma
book format to show how Superman is out of time,
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like in certain panels he'll be there and then he won't.
Characters will appear they're talking. You know, captions will be
out of nowhere, and then they'll make sense later on
as you read the comic. And so a really great
first issue. Like I say, if you've ever read All
Star Superman or if you saw Superman twenty twenty five,
the movie that's out right now, I think it'll be
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in streaming in a few weeks, if not sooner than that.
This is that type of feeling, like this is what
you're looking for. If you came to move from the
movie and you've never read a Superman comic but you
saw the movie, go pick this up because this will
give you that feeling. It's something where I feel like
you don't need to know too much about Superman to
get into it. It gives you all the basics and
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it's pretty much like that Eternal Superman story.
Speaker 2 (40:44):
You know, there's.
Speaker 1 (40:45):
Superman, there's Batman, there's Lois Lane, and there's Lex Luthor
and it's cracking, gotcha.
Speaker 2 (40:52):
Yeah, I can't wait for the next issue.
Speaker 1 (40:54):
Should be out pretty soon too, because just like this,
this came out towards the beginning of August, so I'm
high for the second issue and yeah, check it out.
Speaker 3 (41:05):
This is one that I was anticipating. I was familiar
with ice Cream Man.
Speaker 4 (41:09):
So my late podcast co host Skippin tash that w
Maxwell Prince like the ice Cream Man was his favorite
book that was ongoing at the time, and it's actually
still ongoing, and it was known or is known for
just all of these ways where it just kind of
plays with the medium of comics. Oh, every time ice
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Cream Man comes out, it can easily be considered like
the best book of the month. Damn for me though,
it's hard because it's a horror book and it's not
a horror book and like that there's jump scares and
stuff like that. It's one of those books that just
like examines like all the ills of society minds you
that it's right there in a book, and it's just
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like you you read ice Cream Man and you kind
of come away from it like dang, that was messed up,
or oh that was kind of spooky, or like, man,
people really are thinking like that, and so it's like
that there's all these ways where it messes with you.
And so it was a book that I wasn't picking
up in singles. I decided to read, like I think
the first seven issues back to back and I was like,
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that is not a book that you can binge like.
There was there's one issue where it's like a little
girl's I think her sister died and she was like
blaming herself and like being haunted by the sister. There
was another one where this dude like decides to jump
out of a window and like on his way down,
his whole life is flashing before his eyes, but it's
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like all the bad things he did in life, and
like just there. There was an Eisner winning if I'm
not mistaken two partern called Decompression in a Wreck and
it literally like takes place over two issues and it's
like the whole I don't know twelve seconds that it
takes for you for two cars to have a head
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on collision, and it's like all these people's thoughts during
the accident and stuff. So it's like there's all these
like again like sort of mind bending. The stuff that
you like about absolute Martian Manhunter is present there in spades.
But again, you don't come away from it feeling great
about anything you just read, and so it's.
Speaker 3 (43:19):
A hard it's a hard sell to me.
Speaker 1 (43:21):
Yeah, now I'm a past because as much as I
love all those things you're saying right there. It's I
might check out that Decompression two part or just to
see how that's done. But yeah, that's like I'm a
huge Stephen King fan, and I'm also a person who
regredded pretty much ninety percent of the Stephen King books
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that I've read over my time other than The Dark Tower.
I always tell people that's the one series that didn't
ruin my life, but a lot of his other stuff,
like Running Man, which like that movie, I'm it looks
like it's troming too close to the book. So I'm
really not anticipating that. My podcast partner Tatiana went and
saw The Long Walk because I was not going to
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ruin myself again because I've read it and it's.
Speaker 2 (44:06):
That type of creepy, spooky stuff.
Speaker 1 (44:09):
The message with me jump stairs, don't do anything to me, yeah,
you know, other than made me jump, of course, But
it's that type of stuff. Like I can watch those
type of movies all day, but if you give me
a movie or a book or a comic that makes
you think or it's about like regular people doing horrible
stuff to other people, I can't do it.
Speaker 4 (44:27):
Yeah, Yeah, I feel so I was afraid coming into this.
I was like, not even so much afraid of it,
but it was just like, okay, what does this team
have to offer? Super and you and everyone else I
know who has read it so far.
Speaker 2 (44:42):
It's just like, yo, this is amazing, amazing.
Speaker 3 (44:44):
I think that's just a testament to how good this
creative team is.
Speaker 1 (44:47):
Straight up, it's exact opposite. And you know, I know
that any great you know writer and artists can do,
you know, all types of genres. You know, I like
to explore all types of things and stuff I've written,
and I'm like, well, I'll never read that, you know,
but I wrote it, but it's just things like that.
Speaker 2 (45:03):
So I didn't. I had no idea about it.
Speaker 1 (45:07):
I went into Anyone Comic shout out to my brother
Dmitri in there, and you know, I was like, okay,
what's dope this month? And he handed me this and
I was like, oh, okay, all right, you know need
that to.
Speaker 2 (45:17):
Name everything just and boom read it. Loved it.
Speaker 1 (45:22):
Superman, the Kryptonite spectrum, beautiful art, beautiful colors, and like
I say, if you've never read a Superman comic, if
you're new to comics, I feel like this is one
of those ones. And that was actually a debate that
I've been having or I saw people talk about. They
said that All Star Superman might be one of those
comics that people reckon mend to people and it's too deep,
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you know.
Speaker 2 (45:43):
But I just dave it to.
Speaker 1 (45:44):
Someone and they're enjoying it so far, so I don't know,
and they haven't read many Superman comics at all. I
think both All Star and there's actually a new edition
of All Star. If you're going into your store to
pick up Superman, you can also pick up the All
Star Edition. It's a new manga sawzed edition of the
book that's right now. Ye yeah, and you know that,
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Like I say, if you need two great Superman stories,
you really can't do much better than Superman the Kryptonite
Spectrum and All Star Superman, which is the new manga edition.
So go check it out.
Speaker 4 (46:19):
All Star is really good, real good. And I'm trying
to remember, like if it's super new reader friendly.
Speaker 3 (46:26):
I don't know. I don't.
Speaker 1 (46:28):
It wasn't that story I read. Yeah, it's definitely not mine,
so it's but.
Speaker 3 (46:36):
It has all the hallmarks of like this classic Superman.
Speaker 2 (46:39):
So it's hard.
Speaker 3 (46:40):
It's hard to say.
Speaker 4 (46:40):
I wouldn't recommend it to new people, Like if you have,
if you've seen any Superman movie ever, like you know
enough to read on.
Speaker 2 (46:47):
Yeah, that's how I feel too. And I feel like
it's so.
Speaker 1 (46:50):
Well done and all the individual little stories like or
even the weirdness of Superman is pretty well explained, you know,
like you know, Bottle City of Candor. And I think
the Bizarro issues are some of the ones that might
throw new readers off because those are pretty weird and
pretty like, Okay, what if you don't know some of
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the stuff it's reference and it might seem a little strange,
But overall, I think, you know, just pick up that
manga edition and check it out, because if you haven't,
it's just one of the best books ever.
Speaker 2 (47:23):
And some of those moments aurech as, oh my god.
Speaker 3 (47:26):
Yeah, and that's only like ten dollars.
Speaker 2 (47:29):
Yeah, so it's like grab that joint. It's twelve issues
for ten bucks. It's like fire, Like, come on, man.
Speaker 3 (47:35):
Now, if you want to splurge, to spend a little
bit more.
Speaker 4 (47:38):
They've got a Superman box set that was supposed to
come out alongside the movie, but it's a box set
of like I think four or five trade paperbacks.
Speaker 2 (47:46):
All Stars in there for All Seasons? Is in there?
Speaker 3 (47:53):
Trying to remember the other two?
Speaker 4 (47:54):
I think Kingdom Come Okay, and there's one more so
it's got all He's sort of classic Superman stories in
a box set with the cool little Superman logo.
Speaker 3 (48:05):
I would buy it, but I own those stories. I
just still want the box.
Speaker 1 (48:10):
I don't have them all, so I might have to
hit up anyone for that. Yeah, and I would like
a bigger version of All Star cause I used to have.
Speaker 2 (48:16):
The hardcover, of course, but I don't. I don't think
I do anymore. Yeah, sadly, Yeah, it's worth it.
Speaker 4 (48:22):
Yeah or okay, So well, I guess I get to
close it out this month. So the last book I'm
gonna spotlight is Captain America issue number two. Captain America
written by Chips A dar Ski ur by Ski Team. Okay,
and let's see who did the colors. Just since we're
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shouting out whole creative teams and whatnot, try to right
is the first of the month. Oh yeah, came out
the beginning of the month as well.
Speaker 2 (48:54):
So.
Speaker 3 (48:56):
Oh shout out to black editors, Shout out to Sydney Stubbs,
assistant editor on this one. Nice Frank Martin does to colors.
Frank Martin also the colorist on Absolute Batman. It is
a it is a similar color palette now that I'm
thinking of it. But Captain America in issue one, it's
basically like a brand new origin story for Captin America.
Speaker 4 (49:17):
They kind of shifted his origin. So it's not that
like he still was frozen during World War Two, okay,
but he's woken up. He comes out of the ice. Later,
he comes out of the ice basically in the aftermath
of nine to eleven. Oh, and so it's he comes
out of the ice and basically joins back up with
(49:39):
the Army as opposed to directly being recruited to the Avengers.
It's like that's all he knows is Army life. And
in the intervening years, they had created another super soldier,
of course, and so we've got Steve Rogers Cap, and
we've got this super soldier. I think it's David Wolf
or something like that. So we got a new Cap
(50:02):
and old Cap. New Cap is a redhead. So in
the first.
Speaker 3 (50:05):
Issue we are learning like we're seeing.
Speaker 4 (50:09):
Cap come out of the ice and all that, and
then we're getting this other origin narrated.
Speaker 3 (50:15):
I thought what we were reading was.
Speaker 4 (50:19):
A book that Steve Rogers wrote that is spiring this
new Cap. It could have been that what we were
reading an Issue one was the New Caps Journals, because
he's got a very similar origin. He's a runt. There's
a thing that kind of forces him into action. He
sees the towers come down as a kid, so then
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he's old.
Speaker 3 (50:41):
Enough to join up in the army. He does.
Speaker 4 (50:44):
So an Issue one, we basically get sent to the
this there's a conflict in Labia and so there is
this strike team that is assembled that has both Caps
on it, Steve.
Speaker 3 (51:01):
Rogers, New Captain America.
Speaker 4 (51:03):
They're both on this strike team and so they're going
to Latviia to just kind of help out or whatever.
And what we're seeing is like a conflict between two
different ideals. Steve Rogers is still like kind of you know,
we got to do what's right. It doesn't really matter
what the orders are or whatever. And you know, the
New Captain America is basically like yo, like that's not
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how war works. And so it's really interesting, like this
idea of someone from you know what we would call
the greatest generation. Like, you know, I live in a
super conservative area, and it's like when white people get
to talking about their grandparents, they're served in World War Two,
you know what I'm saying, It's like they were the
best people ever. They served their country purely to fight
(51:48):
a fight of good versus evil, right, And I guess
that's fair because it's like World War Two is pretty
clear cut, like you had straight up dictators trying to
take over the world, and so America and the Allied
forces are like, now, we can't have that. We're gonna
fight for democracy for freedom.
Speaker 3 (52:05):
Cool.
Speaker 4 (52:05):
Right, So somebody who has those ideals coming up against
someone who fought in Afghanistan and then just kind of
got dragged into Iraq just that on the whom of
the president, not because there's anything that warranted us being
in Iraq. And so you've got this grizzled war veteran
(52:28):
that's like, no, we're not doing that, Like this ain't
how life works. Like I love that you're an idealist,
Steve Rodgers, but this is what war really is. And
so it's a really interesting conflict that I normally wouldn't
care about, but I like it.
Speaker 1 (52:45):
Definitely got to check this out. I notice, so is
this like with this new version, where are the Avengers
and everything right now?
Speaker 4 (52:54):
So the Avengers they still exist. What's not clear to
me is exactly this is happening. So like, yeah, still
this is this is post Iraq War, but it's not
in the present day Marvel universe because we're seeing the
Iraq stuff in flashbacks. We're seeing like when they toppled
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Saddam Hussein's tau A statue and all this stuff, and
we're seeing those glimpses of like real life American wars
just paint the picture of who you know, David is
new characters.
Speaker 3 (53:30):
Let me look up this man's name. I'm gonna keep
saying the wrong thing. Yeah, David Colton.
Speaker 4 (53:36):
I was getting confused with another character whose last name
is Wolf. But David Colton was formed in like all
the modern wars that we grew up on and right right,
foreign interests and all that, like the oil Wars. So yeah,
it's interesting, like this doesn't take place during all the
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one World underdoing stuff that's happening right now. They'll doom
is the villain an issue too. Kind of ends with
Steve Rodgers being invited into like Doom's chambers for whatever reason.
Speaker 2 (54:09):
But you know, I think I kind of like that.
I know people some people like like this.
Speaker 1 (54:15):
Unified Marvel universe for everything connects and every story connects
to each other. But I kind of like this version
where it's like certain stories are in whatever, you know,
the main timeline and they're all connecting, and in certain
stories are just kind of off on their own and
telling their own story and maybe they do connect, maybe
they not. You know, we'll see how all plays out.
Speaker 2 (54:38):
Yeah.
Speaker 3 (54:38):
I enjoyed that aspect of it too.
Speaker 4 (54:40):
This is my first Captain America series coming off stands.
I've read like other stuff and collected editions, but for
me to have just picked up my first America number
one and they're like, oh wait, he just woke up in.
Speaker 3 (54:53):
Two thousand and two. Yeah what, I'm confused.
Speaker 4 (54:56):
But somehow it's going to line up then, I'm not
really worried about that.
Speaker 1 (55:02):
No, No, that's how it should be, honestly, because one
world on the Doom has been dragging, to be honest,
I mean, many know BJ What messed me up was
like two issues in I went and.
Speaker 2 (55:14):
Read the Old Emperor.
Speaker 1 (55:16):
Doom from the eighties, the graphic novel that I'd never
read before, and I'm like, this is the same series,
but it wrapped up in one graphic novel and it
was such an ill ending Emperor Doom. I do not
want to spoil it for anyone, but it's basically the
same story as being told in One World Underdom right now,
and it's a graphic novel from the nineteen eighties, so
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it's just one graphic novel and the ending is one
of them indies where you're like, it's kind of fucked up,
ain't it?
Speaker 2 (55:44):
You know?
Speaker 1 (55:44):
I mean, it's like, damn, so I don't know how
One World on the Doom is going to wrap up,
but having read the story before, you know, I hadn't
read it before. But then I read it an issue too,
and now we're still dragging all months later with One
World on the Doom.
Speaker 2 (55:59):
It's like, I'm like, y'all could have been wrapped us up.
Speaker 4 (56:02):
So yeah, the I don't know, modern marvel has been interesting. Yeah,
I feel like I picked the wrong time to be
a comic reviewer because you say great stuff about things
and it's like I'm getting these trades and I'm like,
this is better This is better than what's coming out right.
Speaker 2 (56:24):
Now, bro you Yeah.
Speaker 1 (56:27):
In fact, I'm gonna do this now on air so
we can give a shout out to it for I
talked about this site a lot. It's a very random site,
but it is one of my favorite sites of all time.
Speaker 2 (56:37):
Super megamonkey dot net.
Speaker 1 (56:40):
If you are a Marvel fan, check it out super
mega monkey dot net. It has a timeline of Marvel
comics where the person behind this site reviewed every Marvel
comic and to the best of their ability, placed every
Marvel comic in chronological order, starting with Fantastic four number one,
and then it goes from like everything that happens after that.
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So it's like this what happened in Fantastic four number
one kicking off the Marvel universe, and then this happened next,
and this happened next, and this happened next, and they
got all the way into the nineties. It is an
incredible endeavor and it will just show you how ill
Marvel used to be. I mean, way before my time.
I'm talking seventies, you know, eighties, like even nineties.
Speaker 2 (57:26):
Started really falling apart.
Speaker 1 (57:27):
Yeah, but the seventies, early eighties, it was just so connected.
You know, you would see Spider Man in one issue
and then he'd turn up in X Men that issue,
and he you know, the X Men would go off
planet for five issues, so they wouldn't be seen in
any other Marvel comics for five issues. It was just
more of a unified universe. But at the same time,
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I don't think it was better. I don't know it.
Speaker 2 (57:51):
It is weird because I think it's like Emperor Doomed
to me are just better than One World Underdom. Sorry,
you know, but.
Speaker 1 (57:57):
I do love the Fantastic Four the out right now
under Ryan North as much as I love old Fantastic
Four from like John Byrne or you know, even Stan
Leed and I've.
Speaker 2 (58:07):
Read in trade. So yeah, yeah, it's interesting. Yeah.
Speaker 4 (58:10):
I don't have issues with like, well generally, I don't
have issues with the month to month comics for me.
Events that are kind of out of control.
Speaker 2 (58:17):
Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 4 (58:19):
Like we got One World Underdoom going on, it is
still ongoing. Ever, Meanwhile, Jonathan Hickman's got Imperial going and
it's like, you know, that's his own thing. I don't
really do a bunch of cosmic stuff. I'm literally only
reading Imperial because it seems to be leading somehow to
Child getting back on the throne of Wakanda. Did you
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see they announced the new Black Panther series an so
I didn't know they have a series common called Black
Panther Intergalactic. It's gonna be four issues. Yeah, they're still
Black Panther is still in space. Yeah, it's and it's
going to be dealing with the aftermath of whatever happens
in this Imperial is an imperial or imperial war. Ever
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happens in Imperial, it's going to have consequences for Wakanda,
and there are some sort of strange forces trying to
keep To'challa from reclaiming the throne, which says to me,
by the end of the four issues, to Chila is
going to be on the throne, and maybe we'll finally
get a Black Panther what volume six a new new
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number one mm because we haven't had a Black Panther
ongoing since Eve you and dropped off the title over
a year ago.
Speaker 1 (59:34):
I mean, that's a little bit of time, but not
as long as I thought. Really, I thought it was
more than that, but.
Speaker 3 (59:40):
Yeah, probably been more than I need to look it.
Speaker 2 (59:42):
Up, but yeah, no, I mean I could always deal
with it.
Speaker 1 (59:45):
But man, like you said, these crossovers and I'm like,
the biggest hickmen stand in the world, but they've been.
Speaker 2 (59:53):
Missing you because that that magic was that.
Speaker 3 (59:58):
Oh God's.
Speaker 1 (01:00:02):
And then this, like I asked a metriate anyone the
other day, I'm like, yo, is it because you know
they got kicked so hard after X Men and out
it's like, fuck it, I'm just being this check and
just give them Marvel whatever because and that's like you said, like,
that's why so hard for me to take Marvel seriously,
like when you had something so amazing and incredible and
(01:00:24):
so forward thinking like Coacoa, to just wipe it off
the map and go with this nonsense that Breathwort and
the rest of the X Men crew, you know, shout
out to anyone I love over there.
Speaker 2 (01:00:35):
But I'm sorry, that's hot mess right now. So yeah, no,
but you.
Speaker 1 (01:00:40):
Know that's why we're here to talk about other books
and talk about things that we love and you know,
you know, maybe X Men will get it back together
one day. We always have coca because those are some
great times man that you know, like you know, you
you're at the perfect time man, because shit, you was
reviewing during Cocoa era, like you know, that's some of
the best X me and ever.
Speaker 4 (01:01:01):
No, I very much enjoyed that. And now they're bringing
that back and collected editions. Uh. And the next few
months we get the X Men red and listens coming,
the Jerry Duggan Arros coming to getting a big oversized hardcover,
and I think they're doing a Ker and Gillen like
the Immortal X Men and all that very soon.
Speaker 3 (01:01:22):
Which that was all great stuff, so all great stuff.
Speaker 1 (01:01:26):
So all right, well that's been another month of this podcast.
If we still haven't figured out a name for you know,
Comics Are Dope meets Comics I copped.
Speaker 2 (01:01:35):
Thank you to everyone who's been.
Speaker 1 (01:01:37):
Listening, watching us both on YouTube, you know, like I
said before the beginning, make sure you follow both channels,
Comics Are Dope and for all nerds on YouTube, on
all the various podcasts platforms out there, of course, absolutely.
Speaker 2 (01:01:55):
Anything else before we get out of here.
Speaker 4 (01:01:57):
No, I mean, look, if y'all want to, you know,
support a young young black man, you know, you can
go to comics Urdope dot com slash help me out.
We are I'm raising money, right now to replace my
editing machine and get a new camera. So I have
personal wears up for sale. This is not just to
give me money. Thing you can buy. I got my
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whole time King Batman collection up for sale. Somebody just
bought my whole collection of Star Wars omnis. So funny
of stuff up there that you that's up for grabs,
along with some merch that I'm doing basically limited run
merch just for this fundraiser until we were nice so
comics aredope dot com slash help me out because I.
Speaker 1 (01:02:40):
Need it, bro all right, I definitely already donated, but
I definitely I might have to cop some of that merch.
I always love a good T shirt, so I'm have
to head over there. And speaking of good T shirts,
you know, every time you can always hit up four
All Nerds dot com of course and get some of
this fire merch like this Doctor Doom Arounded by Idiots
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this and some sweatshirts for the fall and all that,
So head over to four All Nerves dot com and
get that, of course, you know, as always as you
see behind me Jimmy Hendris Purple Hayes, my Eisner nominated
graphic novel, is still on sale right now.
Speaker 2 (01:03:21):
First print almost.
Speaker 1 (01:03:23):
Sold out at the publisher level, so make sure you
go get yourself a copy.
Speaker 2 (01:03:27):
Hit up anyone comments and they'll ship it to you.
Speaker 1 (01:03:30):
And if you hit him and say, yo, Ben told
me he'd sign it to me, I will do that.
So you know, make sure you head over there. And
I think that's about it. I got some new music
coming at biddjenergy dot com as well, so you don't
want to go over there and drop an email. There
will be a lot of new music coming very soon.
By the time we do this next month, there'll be
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at least two songs out, So biddjenergy dot Com. Head
on over there and get yourself some of this do
fire music that dropping dope dope.
Speaker 3 (01:04:02):
Yeah, I'm excited for that.
Speaker 2 (01:04:03):
Oh, thank you very much. Yeah, I'm very excited.
Speaker 1 (01:04:06):
Of got a plan in progress, and so it's like
it's time we're going to see a lot on all
these socials all that stuff. So and on the common
book note, I actually started plotting out a sequel to
Jimmy Hendrix. So yeah, I might be coming to a
Kickstarter near you because it's probably I don't know what
Titans don't do, so it might be a semi legal type.
Speaker 4 (01:04:29):
Sequel, unlicensed, unofficial sequel.
Speaker 2 (01:04:33):
Yeah, there we go.
Speaker 3 (01:04:34):
Yeah yeah, underground, it's the bootleg.
Speaker 2 (01:04:37):
It's cool, hey man.
Speaker 1 (01:04:38):
You know, it's how we gotta make it work, you know,
fake it till you make it