Two-time Emmy and three-time NAACP Image Award-winning, television Executive Producer, Rushion McDonald interviewed George Acheampong and Carter Cofield. They own Melanin Money, which aims to empower the Black community through financial literacy and wealth-building. They have been recognized for their innovative approach to bridging the wealth gap and fostering a culture of financial empowerment. Melanin Money has implemented the challenges they have had to overcome, as well as their advice for aspiring entrepreneurs.
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- The inspiration behind founding Melanin Money
- Key milestones and achievements in your journey
- Strategies for promoting financial literacy within the Black community
- Personal stories of success and overcoming obstacles
- Future goals and projects for Melanin Money
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Speaker 1 (00:05):
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Because guess what, that's what I wanted my show. My
guests created the melan melon, the money melon, the money.
Their mission is to empower the black community through financial
literacy and wealth building. They have been recognized for their
innovative approach to bridging the wealth gap, which I talk
about allowing the show. So we're going to really find
out what is that wealth gap, you know, and fostering
(01:19):
a culture financial empowerment. Please welcome to the Money to
Money Making Conversation Masterclass. George and Carter, owners of Melon
the Money and they want to share the inspiring stories.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Welcome to the show, my friends, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, you know, I always like having people in the
studio because I can look, there's always a cat and
mouse game on the radio. You can't really know how
people are feeling about it. So let's get this started here.
Tell me about you a little bit, my quick brother.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, so I have been a financial advisor and wealth
manager for the past twelve years. And when I started
in the industry, there wasn't a lot of advisors that
looked like me.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And which why is that?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Why is that? I think because well, for several reasons.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Right, I think if you don't see a representation in
a space, then you assume that it's not for you. Right,
So because of that, it's not a pure career path
that people pursue they pursue being rappers, they pursue being athletes,
they pursue being entertainers because they believe that's what's for them,
because that's what they see. There wasn't a lot of representation,
and so a lot of our movement is to create
that representation so that people know that they're worthy of wealth,
(02:21):
right And so what I realized there wasn't a lot
of people in the space. I wanted to figure out
how I could serve and reach more people. And that's
when we started, you know, creating content online, creating podcasts
and things of that nature, so that we could really
impact and just show the world that, you know, building
wealth as a personal color is something that's possible for
you too.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's a person of color. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We talk about money, you know, the first level of
money if you can buy a house, and then when
you start talking about stocks, it it becomes like Spanish really,
you know, And I wish I was being comical because
even I'm a person, I still don't know what crypto is.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
So, you know, a on you really got a brother
over here here.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I got a show called money Cake.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Money making comes they master, but I don't master that conversation. Right,
So that's me and I supposed to know. So with
that being said, you guys became partners. How did that
world happen for you?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Well, Carter Coofield, Okay, yeah, So I'm in CPA and
I've been in CPA for about ten years and we
met at the conference and he had clients he was
helping make a lot of money and they needed to
help saving on taxes. I had a bunch of clients
I was helping saving on taxes and they need to
know what to do with the extra money. Right, So
we eventually came together. Because if you want to build wealth,
I think it's two major things you have to do.
(03:37):
Keep Uncle saying you saving tax Oh yeah, I was
helping them save in taxes, and he was helping them
take that money and invested.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh I love that relationship.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yeah, keeping them money in circle wise man was told me,
if you want to make a lot of money, teach
people how to keep Uncle saying out they pocket, and
teach them how to make money and they sleep.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
If you do those two things, you that mailbox money.
Mailbox money.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Loved it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You gotta love it.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
So it was a perfect partnership because those are the
two things you need to do to build wealth. And
we came together so we can have a one stop
shot where people can save one taxes, make money from
investments so they can build a legacy for their family.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Now, when you say, I hear that a lot little
legacy for the family, you know, because you know, in
the black community, the community of color, you know, you
they tell you about a little savings account, you know,
and the savers account. Nowadays, the percentage is like you
really just got money just sitting there.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You cannot save yourself to wealth, brother, right, you.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Can only Mber put it in a mattress, you know,
you know, right right right, you know I can feed
my money, baby, I can feel my money, you know,
like my mom used to do.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But when you talk about that wealth gap, you know,
how does that work for you, George.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Thinking about the wealth gap as a whole, Yes, sir,
So our mission is to decrease the wealth gap by
one hundred billion dollars, right, and that's a big number.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's a big number right back. And we're going to
back into so we start big in the we back
you know, because.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
John Hods Brian talking about doing a million jobs by
a year twenty thirty, I got two powerful black men
out there talking about millions.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, So so our goal, our goal is
the Christal wealth gap by one hundred billion dollars by
helping one hundred thousand people of color achieve their first
one million in networth.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Right, But here's the thing, right to your point, absolutely
absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Here's the thing that we realize, right, Like, we realized
that marketing and society typically use marketing tactics to exploit
this tactic, but we used it for a good right,
and that tactic is people would do more for recognition
than they will for money. The reason why people buy
the Louis Vauton, they buy the fancy cars because of
the perceived status that that gives them to the world.
So we said, well, hey, we don't want people to
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spend money, but how can we how can we hack
that psychology?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And so we every year we have an annual award
show where we're literally celebrating our clients.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Okay, okay, award show. I had nothing about an awards
What award show?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You got?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's happening you The good news is no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I ain't know nothing about this award show.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Okay, I got my show.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah with the wards, you gotta award your awarding people.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
We got an award show celebrating people for their wealth, billding milestones.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So, like so if you have one hundred thousand, a networth,
a half a million, a million, five million, whatever, Right,
So now what happens is this?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
He's the crazy part. When we launched this, my Financial
Advisor first thought, I was crazy. No one's gonna feel
comfortable talking about their numbers or their money. Yes, they
will if you celebrate them for it. Because here's the reality. Well,
most people leave high school. Everybody doesn't go to college.
When's the last time they walk across the straight stage
to get celebrated. When's the last time somebody is honoring
them for something that they're doing. Now, imagine you get
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you get celebrated for fully funding your rought iray, you
get celebrated for having one hundred thousand plus network. Now
people are literally racing to like get those investment accounts
funded so they can be up on stage. So now
here's the good news. We're not giving you awards for
how much money you made. We're not giving you awards
for how much money you spent to flex on a
society where you can only get an award from us
if you actually have it, if you kept it right,
(06:56):
and so we have hacked psychology when it comes to
helping people build.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well, I'm not just over get back to you.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
That little program, little thing called the Hoodie Awards.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, Hoodie Awards.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That was me and it's Steve Harbor and we celebrated
small businesses, barbershops, churches, and school This feels like the
hoodie of wards on steroids, something like something.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Like, hey, listen, you hearing it from us. I'm not
sure what you got going on uh this weekend, but
we love to have you check it out. We'll make
you get out the information for a complimentary ticket. We
love to have you in the building. Okay, now, complimentary ticket.
Now you know I'm a backstage guy.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I can't that, brother. I just mean you don't have
to pay anything. That's what I mean. You with us, brother.
You know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Excited because of the fact that you're doing something that
people say cannot be done these type of award shows,
because of the fact that you're recognizing people of color,
because that's not done normally.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Because we're not supposed to be doing that. We're not.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, like I said, you live with the with
the entertainment, the athletics is those are the areas that
you know. That's why Lebron James said, don't call my
business partners a crew, you know, when people tell him
stay just dribble a basketball. No, I do more than that.
Don't stereotype me. And so I consider this event a
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non stereotypical event, which means it's worthy of promotion. It's
worthy of television stations showing up, it's worthy of sitting
on NBC Today, it's worthy sitting on Good Morning in America.
Because we get stereotypes so much about what we cannot do.
It's annoying to me. So I get mad. I create
(08:39):
this show. I created this show, and I don't know
why I did it. Initially, when I started in twenty seventeen, Carter,
it was about celebrities. Okay, you know, I say, I
bring the celebrities on and they talk about this success.
Then I realized they're kind of boring, you know, yeah,
because they are not talking about out to everyday person's success.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And if people can't relate, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Know, because In other words, they have using their brand
to access something that the everyday person can't access. They
might get a loan because they're famous. They might they
might get a T shirt deal because they're famous. So
they've skipped a lot of steps that the basic everyday
person doesn't know anything about. So that's why it's important
when I bring individuals like you on the show, talk
(09:25):
about your role in all this.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yeah, so he had this idea before I came on,
and I just wanted to help magnify the CPA. It's
a CPA, right, because we know client's making all this money.
It was like, how can we make this money tax free?
How can we find creative strategies to help our clients
build wealth without having to give fifty percent of their
money to Uncle Sam?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Right?
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Because most people, but they don't realize that when you
pay federal tax, state tax, city tax, self deployment tax,
property tax, you're giving fifty percent of money to the
government over your lifetime. Right, And so if I can
help them keep that money, because some people actually say, like,
if I make more money, they have to pay more
taxes potentially, but don't stop making the money first, you
know what I'm saying, so I think that our goal
(10:04):
was just really to come together and teach people that
you can make more money and save on taxes at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
One of the questions that was put submitted to me
was like milestones and journeys because we all you know,
I always tell people I basically am the same guy
at eighteen. I just had to learn that when I
became forty. Yeah, you know, you know, because I because
now I'm making all the tools and all the vision
I had when I was eighteen, then I'm actually making
(10:30):
money with it. I was an inspirational guy. I was
telling people people listen to me when I talk. I
would do events, they would show up, they will give
me money. So let me know, at a very early age,
I had some skill set that people went, Okay, here's
five dollars. So now I'm looking at two young men,
which excite me because you're my future, you know. And
(10:51):
I always tell people, you hit fifty, you know, there's
a fifty, there's no guarantee the next fifty. First fifty,
there was no guarantee there, but I made it a fit.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, so that's the.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Journey that I can tell you about. So what's your
journey because you have not hit fifty yet.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, so my journey is pretty missed. CPA talking, I'm
called CPA.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
That's money man over there.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah yeah, CPA. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Unfortunately, so fortunately, unfortunately, I had a traumatic childhood. My
mom and dad at fourteen, my dad dad at sixteen,
so I was sixteen with no parents. But it also
told me to take my own life and my own
financial literacy into my own hands. Right, So, very early on,
I realized that we didn't have money, and I went,
so why because the people around me that have money,
but that we don't have it. So my curiosity for
(11:38):
money stemmed from a lack and instead of saying I
scarcely the mindset we're you know, we don't have it,
I had an abundance mindset, So how can we achieve it?
So that's where my curiosity for money came from. And
I studied it all through college and I became one
of the top CPAs in the country. And my goal
is simple, like, if I made it this far, I
was able to make money in my business and save
a lot of money on taxes. I have an obligation
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to teach my own people how they can do it
as well. Well, you know, when you see your own
people who you're talking about, I'll talk with people of color,
specifically black people, because we're underserved. Right again, if somebody's
not black, listens to me, fine, I'm targeting my community
to whose has been underserved with information intentionally for a
very long time. So I feel like a personal obligation
(12:21):
to give us the skills and the assets and the
information and resources for us to just not take our
family to the next level, but us take our friends
and people around us as well.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Before we go to break I'll be remiss not to
complete the conversation about the award show. Tell us about
the war show when it's happening, but also how can
one participate it in next year?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Absolutely, So, the award Show is a part of a
broader experience called Wealth Weekend. And on Friday this Friday,
upcoming Friday, we have a educational conference, right because we
don't we want to make sure people get the actual
information to learn how to hit those milestones. Because this
is an event for our clients as well as it's
open to the public. So to your point, if you're
not our client, you might not yet know the strategies
and insights on how to improve your network. So if
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we first start with the education, right, we have some
powerhouse speakers, myself and Carter will be some of them,
but also some other speakers on Friday, and then after
people get a chance to get out that information, right,
we want to give them a chance to digest it,
get a chance to connect with other people who were
in the room. Because the reason why this started and
evolved to the next level is we invested in ourselves
and we went to a conference, right, and we met
at that conference, and then that compounded into a friendship,
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a business partnership, and our brotherhood. Right, So we want
to get people an opportunities to connect in a meaningful ways.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
We have a mixer after the conference.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Then that Saturday is when we have the award show,
So early evening we have the award show, and it's
a two part award show, So we're celebrating our clients
who have achieved the milestones, but then also other pillars
of the community. Had we known about you probably would
have been celebrated as well. But pillars of the community
who are helping us in this mission. Because we know
that we're not the only two guys in the financial
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literacy space pushing this narrative forward.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So we want to let them know that we see
them too.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Right, So, who are educated about stocks, people who educate
about real estate and all the other different categories.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
They also get celebrated.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And amplified as a part of this experience because it's
not for us hitting that one hundred thousand Peape Parson target.
And we don't care if it all comes through Melon
and Money. We just want to be the conduit to
make it happen. Right, And then at the end of that,
we have another celebration, a sneaker ball, right, so everybody
comes suited and booted, they're all dressed up. They can
take off the shoes that were hurting their feet, they
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can pop on the sneakers and have a good time
for the rest of the evening. And if if you're
in Atlanta area or you're in the surrounding area, we
have tickets available on melonimoney dot com.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
All you have to do is go to the website.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I think we have some tickets left, tw tickets left
to attend tickets, a few tickets left to attend the event.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And if you do miss it, for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
If you can't make it or we're sold out by
the time you get to the site, visit melonomoney dot com.
Stay tuned in what we have going on. Visit our
YouTube channel. We post a couple of episodes every single week.
Haven't missed the week since twenty twenty one. Because we
always want to educate regardless. If people can tap in
with our community and deepened meaning ways, we want to
make sure that we provide a platform that people can
learn from.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm going to tell you something. Both these brothers in shape,
you know, one of them got look like he walked
in with a weight kit helping wave health and wealth.
You well, there's arms, there's gun. That's gun, so he
can't let me touch this.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But oh boy, stop.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
When we come back, we will learn more about them.
How did this organization start the name that? What does
that name mean? It's important that we understand their birth,
understand their journey and all those during their future. That's
all gonna happen when you come back to Money Making
Conversation master Class. Whoa boor Glad you're own the studio
because you learned something today.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
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Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh thank you all for just listening. Thank y'all for
encouraging me to continue with this show.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Not like I won't stop. You know what I'm saying.
I won't keep doing it anyway. I won't do it
in my house, in my batesment.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know, I have two laps, two video gaests right now,
George and Carter, and they are gonna be talking about
their business. But you know, when I was reading your resume,
it was talking about innovative. When I hear that word innovative,
I don't know what that means, you know, invative ways
that you can build your wealth. Because let's be honest.
(16:37):
I got a credit card, I know about CDs, I
know about stock, I know about insurance.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
What's innovative? When am I missing? George? Yeah, that's a
great question, right.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So you know I have this tagline that I like
to help people achieve financial freedom. Three times faster than
traditional financial advice, right, And it sounds like a good tagline.
But to your point, if I don't unpack that, you
might not know what that means. So the first thing
that comes with that is number one, understanding you know,
how anybody can invest in the stock market?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, Like, how what does that look like?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And so for me, I've always helped people understand what
I like to call the Burger King investment strategy and
what I mean by that. What I mean is McDonald
spends millions of dollars a year figuring out where they
want to put their next location. Right there in the
real estate business as well, so they put a lot
of thought into where the next location is going to go. Right,
So the question becomes, well, how does Burger King decide
where they want to put.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Their next location?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Well, they probably put it across the street or in
proximity to McDonald's, right, because if someone wants McDonald's, they
probably are also okay with Burger King.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So what does that mean with investing? What that means
is there's companies.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Like Vanguard, black Rock, right, these really big companies that
spend multimillion dollars on deciding the right companies and investments
that need to go in these things called index funds
and ETFs, right, And I'll explain what that means in
a second. And so instead of me, even though I'm
well researched and I understand how the stock market works,
an average investor might not. So what they can do
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is they can piggyback right the research that these big
companies have already done and simply select the fund like
a VOO which is an index fund, or QQQ, and
all the research has already been done on if this
fund makes sense. Right. And so when people know that,
now they don't have to be experts in the stock market.
They don't necessarily have to know everything about the inner
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workings of the stock market. They know that Vanguard has
spent millions of dollars on research, they manage tradings dollars
in assets, and they're gonna do their due diligence on
picking the right companies.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
So now anybody can become an investor. Now take it
a step further, because you have the ability to look
inside of those funds. You can see, well, what are
the top five to ten companies in these funds? These
funds have five hundred different investments in them, but what
are the top five to ten. Well, I had this
aha moment to say, well, what happens if I piggyback
the research and invest in the index fund, but I
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also select some of those top companies outside of that.
So now I get the performance of the top companies
while still having the security of the fund. Doing that
strategy has allowed me to outperform the market for the
past seven years, right, So that's kind of the foundational
level of what makes the strategy innovative. Now beyond that,
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to Carter's point, a lot of people pay money in taxes,
So I said, well, shoot, everybody talks about buying low
and selling high. What they don't tell you is when
you sell high, even though capital gains tax are lower
than other ordinary income taxes you might pay, it's still taxes.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yes, it is right.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
So what happens when you can have investments benefit from
the growth and not have to sell right by leveraging
that investment account and basically becoming your own bank borring
against the value of the account. So, for example, if
you had one hundred thousand dollars invested. A lot of
people don't realize you can go to Charles Swab. You
can go to Fidelity and say, hey, look you see
I have the money invested. Could you give me a
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lot of credit based upon the value of my account? Sure,
why wouldn't we? See you have the money invested. So
now your money gets to remain invested. You now get
to avoid the taxes, and then we're we're going to
teach you to get that money not to go buy stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
The interest you interest your fan back interest to so
to you who yourself?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Okay, right, I had your taxman came in exacting right
now the hoop, right, So then you take that money.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But here's the here's the kicker.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Even if you weren't paying the interest back to yourself,
you're only going to borrow the money once you've identified
an investment opportunity that's going to exceed the interest that
you would owe.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's the infinite money glitch.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Right. If I can borrow money at six percent, right,
go and buy an investment property that's going to produce
higher than the cost of that capital, and then take
that cash flow and put it back in my investment
accouncil can compound even further. That's that's what we like
to call it infinite money glitch. Right, most people are
just so used to hearing the term borrowing and associating
it with debt, buying clothes, buying cars, buying liabilities. Right,
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when you take that same equation but use it to
buy investments, it's a totally different ball game.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
People just have to get on the right side of
the equation.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Wow, this relationship being a money man and being a CPA.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So that's that's what I see here.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, good combo is good combo because in the end,
you know, taxes kill us. All taxes can you know,
can put you in jail if you don't follow Them'll
discover that famous actor. Plenty of them out there told
us that. So when you do, you have an innovative plan.
He's told us an innovative plan when it comes to
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making money. Seven year plans, worked, strategized, your CPA highly rated,
topping the class.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's what makes you special.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Well, I teach entrepreneurs how to basically have the irs
help pay their bills. Right, So if you start a business,
right podcast whatever, you buy that lab. If you don't
have a business, you buy that laptop. That's a personal expense. Absolutely,
if you start a business and you buy that laptop,
that's a business expense, absolutely, So the IRS will now
give you a tax deduction for you buying something you're
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already going to buy anyway, right, So now you can,
now that you know that, you look around your house
and say, what other personal expense can I turn into
a legitimate tax deduction? If you have a business that
you operate from home, the IRS is lets you take
advantage of the home office deduction, which will allow you
to write off a portion of your rent or your
mortgage every single month. Again, any utilities and utilities and internet,
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and these are things you're already paying for, So why
not get the IRS to step in and help give
you a tax deduction so you can lower the amount
that you're trying to pay. So step number one is
how can we turn our personal expenses into tax deductible
business expenses? Step number two is how can we leverage
assets to help us save on taxes? So now that
we're saving on taxes, we might get a refund check
(22:37):
because we turn we now increased our write offs, So
you might get some money back from the IRS if
you use some of that refund to, let's say, buy
a real estate property. Real estate allows you to earn
money in your bank account while losing money on your
tax return, So you can actually cast for from that
real estate and not pay any taxes. Not to mention,
the losses on your tax return from your real estate
property gets to get subtracted from other income you make
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at work or your other businesses. So you're making tax
free money in real estate and you're lessening your tax
bill and your W two job. And then the last
step is like, all right, how are there other ways
that we can invest in not pay the irs we use?
So we take advantage of tax advantage accounts like iras
roth iras, or we can lever strategies like George mentioned
by investing in our investment account and then borrowing from
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my assets to buy other assets. The wealthiest people in
the country, they buy assets, they use that to buy assets,
and they use the money from the assets to pay
off the debts, and then they borrow from the debts tax.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Free to go buy other assets.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
This is a wealth game, and if you're gonna play
the game, you need to learn the real I love it,
you know, I smile because you know a lot of
the stuff I know naturally It's always good to hear
it come back at you and realize, hey, the model works.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Stick to a rashan, you know, because there is a
long term model because a lot of times we want
to win the lotto, Witchdoc. This is a plan in
the stock game, which is a plan and a goal
or in in its system. As we wrap up the call,
and I will be at your war show.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Okay, okay, y'all know, okay, and I will yeah, pe
access He got a step us one right.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Now, this ain't even nothing worried worry sneakers, right, I gotta.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Have a join So you how much your regular shoes
and then and then when the when the when the
war show is over, then you can transition to your sneaker,
same outfit.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
This is all good, It's all good, I got it,
he said.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Let's I know the war shows happening, but tell us
again about the website and so people can reach out
to you in the future one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
So the website is meling in money dot com. That's
spelled et m E l A N I N money.
I hope you're not spelled money. Meling in money dot com.
That's where you can find all of our resources, and
I also would encourage you to use that same name
that searches on YouTube. Find our YouTube channel, subscribe, dropping
an amazing content every single week, and we can't wait
for you to be a part of the community.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Guys, you're fantastic. Thank y'all for coming in our studio
and we will talk soon. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
This has been another d money Making Conversation Masterclass hosted
by me Rashan McDonald. Thank you to my guests who
are talking today, and thank you to my listening audience.
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Because guess what, that's what I wanted my show. My
guests created the melan melon, the money melon, the money.
Their mission is to empower the black community through financial
literacy and wealth building. They have been recognized for their
innovative approach to bridging the wealth gap, which I talk
about allowing the show. So we're going to really find
out what is that wealth gap, you know, and fostering
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a culture financial empowerment. Please welcome to the Money to
Money Making Conversation Masterclass. George and Carter, owners of Melon
the Money and they want to share the inspiring stories.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Welcome to the show, my friends, Thank you for having us.
Speaker 3 (01:31):
Well, you know, I always like having people in the
studio because I can look, there's always a cat and
mouse game on the radio. You can't really know how
people are feeling about it. So let's get this started here.
Tell me about you a little bit, my quick brother.
Speaker 4 (01:44):
Yeah, so I have been a financial advisor and wealth
manager for the past twelve years. And when I started
in the industry, there wasn't a lot of advisors that
looked like me.
Speaker 1 (01:54):
And which why is that?
Speaker 5 (01:55):
Why is that?
Speaker 1 (01:56):
Why is that? I think because well, for several reasons.
Speaker 4 (02:00):
Right, I think if you don't see a representation in
a space, then you assume that it's not for you. Right,
So because of that, it's not a pure career path
that people pursue they pursue being rappers, they pursue being athletes,
they pursue being entertainers because they believe that's what's for them,
because that's what they see. There wasn't a lot of representation,
and so a lot of our movement is to create
that representation so that people know that they're worthy of wealth,
(02:21):
right And so what I realized there wasn't a lot
of people in the space. I wanted to figure out
how I could serve and reach more people. And that's
when we started, you know, creating content online, creating podcasts
and things of that nature, so that we could really
impact and just show the world that, you know, building
wealth as a personal color is something that's possible for
you too.
Speaker 1 (02:38):
That's a person of color. You know.
Speaker 3 (02:41):
We talk about money, you know, the first level of
money if you can buy a house, and then when
you start talking about stocks, it it becomes like Spanish really,
you know, And I wish I was being comical because
even I'm a person, I still don't know what crypto is.
Speaker 5 (02:57):
So, you know, a on you really got a brother
over here here.
Speaker 1 (03:03):
I got a show called money Cake.
Speaker 3 (03:05):
Money making comes they master, but I don't master that conversation. Right,
So that's me and I supposed to know. So with
that being said, you guys became partners. How did that
world happen for you?
Speaker 6 (03:16):
Well, Carter Coofield, Okay, yeah, So I'm in CPA and
I've been in CPA for about ten years and we
met at the conference and he had clients he was
helping make a lot of money and they needed to
help saving on taxes. I had a bunch of clients
I was helping saving on taxes and they need to
know what to do with the extra money. Right, So
we eventually came together. Because if you want to build wealth,
I think it's two major things you have to do.
(03:37):
Keep Uncle saying you saving tax Oh yeah, I was
helping them save in taxes, and he was helping them
take that money and invested.
Speaker 1 (03:43):
Oh I love that relationship.
Speaker 6 (03:44):
Yeah, keeping them money in circle wise man was told me,
if you want to make a lot of money, teach
people how to keep Uncle saying out they pocket, and
teach them how to make money and they sleep.
Speaker 1 (03:52):
If you do those two things, you that mailbox money.
Mailbox money.
Speaker 7 (03:55):
Loved it.
Speaker 1 (03:55):
You gotta love it.
Speaker 6 (03:56):
So it was a perfect partnership because those are the
two things you need to do to build wealth. And
we came together so we can have a one stop
shot where people can save one taxes, make money from
investments so they can build a legacy for their family.
Speaker 3 (04:09):
Now, when you say, I hear that a lot little
legacy for the family, you know, because you know, in
the black community, the community of color, you know, you
they tell you about a little savings account, you know,
and the savers account. Nowadays, the percentage is like you
really just got money just sitting there.
Speaker 1 (04:24):
You cannot save yourself to wealth, brother, right, you.
Speaker 3 (04:26):
Can only Mber put it in a mattress, you know,
you know, right right right, you know I can feed
my money, baby, I can feel my money, you know,
like my mom used to do.
Speaker 5 (04:35):
Now.
Speaker 3 (04:35):
But when you talk about that wealth gap, you know,
how does that work for you, George.
Speaker 4 (04:41):
Thinking about the wealth gap as a whole, Yes, sir,
So our mission is to decrease the wealth gap by
one hundred billion dollars, right, and that's a big number.
Speaker 1 (04:50):
It's a big number right back. And we're going to
back into so we start big in the we back
you know, because.
Speaker 3 (04:53):
John Hods Brian talking about doing a million jobs by
a year twenty thirty, I got two powerful black men
out there talking about millions.
Speaker 4 (05:01):
Okay, yeah, yeah, So so our goal, our goal is
the Christal wealth gap by one hundred billion dollars by
helping one hundred thousand people of color achieve their first
one million in networth.
Speaker 1 (05:11):
Right, But here's the thing, right to your point, absolutely
absolutely right.
Speaker 4 (05:15):
Here's the thing that we realize, right, Like, we realized
that marketing and society typically use marketing tactics to exploit
this tactic, but we used it for a good right,
and that tactic is people would do more for recognition
than they will for money. The reason why people buy
the Louis Vauton, they buy the fancy cars because of
the perceived status that that gives them to the world.
So we said, well, hey, we don't want people to
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spend money, but how can we how can we hack
that psychology?
Speaker 1 (05:39):
Right?
Speaker 4 (05:39):
And so we every year we have an annual award
show where we're literally celebrating our clients.
Speaker 3 (05:45):
Okay, okay, award show. I had nothing about an awards
What award show?
Speaker 5 (05:49):
You got?
Speaker 3 (05:49):
It's happening you The good news is no, no, no, no, no, no, no,
I ain't know nothing about this award show.
Speaker 5 (05:56):
Okay, I got my show.
Speaker 3 (05:59):
Yeah with the wards, you gotta award your awarding people.
Speaker 4 (06:03):
We got an award show celebrating people for their wealth, billding milestones.
Speaker 1 (06:06):
Right.
Speaker 4 (06:07):
So, like so if you have one hundred thousand, a networth,
a half a million, a million, five million, whatever, Right,
So now what happens is this?
Speaker 1 (06:13):
Right?
Speaker 4 (06:13):
He's the crazy part. When we launched this, my Financial
Advisor first thought, I was crazy. No one's gonna feel
comfortable talking about their numbers or their money. Yes, they
will if you celebrate them for it. Because here's the reality. Well,
most people leave high school. Everybody doesn't go to college.
When's the last time they walk across the straight stage
to get celebrated. When's the last time somebody is honoring
them for something that they're doing. Now, imagine you get
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you get celebrated for fully funding your rought iray, you
get celebrated for having one hundred thousand plus network. Now
people are literally racing to like get those investment accounts
funded so they can be up on stage. So now
here's the good news. We're not giving you awards for
how much money you made. We're not giving you awards
for how much money you spent to flex on a
society where you can only get an award from us
if you actually have it, if you kept it right,
(06:56):
and so we have hacked psychology when it comes to
helping people build.
Speaker 3 (06:59):
Well, I'm not just over get back to you.
Speaker 5 (07:04):
That little program, little thing called the Hoodie Awards.
Speaker 1 (07:06):
Okay, Hoodie Awards.
Speaker 3 (07:07):
That was me and it's Steve Harbor and we celebrated
small businesses, barbershops, churches, and school This feels like the
hoodie of wards on steroids, something like something.
Speaker 4 (07:18):
Like, hey, listen, you hearing it from us. I'm not
sure what you got going on uh this weekend, but
we love to have you check it out. We'll make
you get out the information for a complimentary ticket. We
love to have you in the building. Okay, now, complimentary ticket.
Now you know I'm a backstage guy.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
I can't that, brother. I just mean you don't have
to pay anything. That's what I mean. You with us, brother.
You know, I'm.
Speaker 3 (07:41):
Excited because of the fact that you're doing something that
people say cannot be done these type of award shows,
because of the fact that you're recognizing people of color,
because that's not done normally.
Speaker 1 (07:53):
Because we're not supposed to be doing that. We're not.
Speaker 3 (07:55):
You know, like I said, you live with the with
the entertainment, the athletics is those are the areas that
you know. That's why Lebron James said, don't call my
business partners a crew, you know, when people tell him
stay just dribble a basketball. No, I do more than that.
Don't stereotype me. And so I consider this event a
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non stereotypical event, which means it's worthy of promotion. It's
worthy of television stations showing up, it's worthy of sitting
on NBC Today, it's worthy sitting on Good Morning in America.
Because we get stereotypes so much about what we cannot do.
It's annoying to me. So I get mad. I create
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this show. I created this show, and I don't know
why I did it. Initially, when I started in twenty seventeen, Carter,
it was about celebrities. Okay, you know, I say, I
bring the celebrities on and they talk about this success.
Then I realized they're kind of boring, you know, yeah,
because they are not talking about out to everyday person's success.
Speaker 1 (09:01):
And if people can't relate, yeah, you.
Speaker 3 (09:03):
Know, because In other words, they have using their brand
to access something that the everyday person can't access. They
might get a loan because they're famous. They might they
might get a T shirt deal because they're famous. So
they've skipped a lot of steps that the basic everyday
person doesn't know anything about. So that's why it's important
when I bring individuals like you on the show, talk
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about your role in all this.
Speaker 6 (09:27):
Yeah, so he had this idea before I came on,
and I just wanted to help magnify the CPA. It's
a CPA, right, because we know client's making all this money.
It was like, how can we make this money tax free?
How can we find creative strategies to help our clients
build wealth without having to give fifty percent of their
money to Uncle Sam?
Speaker 1 (09:42):
Right?
Speaker 6 (09:42):
Because most people, but they don't realize that when you
pay federal tax, state tax, city tax, self deployment tax,
property tax, you're giving fifty percent of money to the
government over your lifetime. Right, And so if I can
help them keep that money, because some people actually say, like,
if I make more money, they have to pay more
taxes potentially, but don't stop making the money first, you
know what I'm saying, so I think that our goal
(10:04):
was just really to come together and teach people that
you can make more money and save on taxes at
the same time.
Speaker 3 (10:10):
One of the questions that was put submitted to me
was like milestones and journeys because we all you know,
I always tell people I basically am the same guy
at eighteen. I just had to learn that when I
became forty. Yeah, you know, you know, because I because
now I'm making all the tools and all the vision
I had when I was eighteen, then I'm actually making
(10:30):
money with it. I was an inspirational guy. I was
telling people people listen to me when I talk. I
would do events, they would show up, they will give
me money. So let me know, at a very early age,
I had some skill set that people went, Okay, here's
five dollars. So now I'm looking at two young men,
which excite me because you're my future, you know. And
(10:51):
I always tell people, you hit fifty, you know, there's
a fifty, there's no guarantee the next fifty. First fifty,
there was no guarantee there, but I made it a fit.
Speaker 5 (11:00):
There you go.
Speaker 1 (11:01):
Yeah, so that's the.
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Journey that I can tell you about. So what's your
journey because you have not hit fifty yet.
Speaker 1 (11:07):
Yeah.
Speaker 6 (11:07):
Yeah, so my journey is pretty missed. CPA talking, I'm
called CPA.
Speaker 5 (11:12):
That's money man over there.
Speaker 1 (11:13):
Yeah yeah, CPA. Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 6 (11:17):
Unfortunately, so fortunately, unfortunately, I had a traumatic childhood. My
mom and dad at fourteen, my dad dad at sixteen,
so I was sixteen with no parents. But it also
told me to take my own life and my own
financial literacy into my own hands. Right, So, very early on,
I realized that we didn't have money, and I went,
so why because the people around me that have money,
but that we don't have it. So my curiosity for
(11:38):
money stemmed from a lack and instead of saying I
scarcely the mindset we're you know, we don't have it,
I had an abundance mindset, So how can we achieve it?
So that's where my curiosity for money came from. And
I studied it all through college and I became one
of the top CPAs in the country. And my goal
is simple, like, if I made it this far, I
was able to make money in my business and save
a lot of money on taxes. I have an obligation
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to teach my own people how they can do it
as well. Well, you know, when you see your own
people who you're talking about, I'll talk with people of color,
specifically black people, because we're underserved. Right again, if somebody's
not black, listens to me, fine, I'm targeting my community
to whose has been underserved with information intentionally for a
very long time. So I feel like a personal obligation
(12:21):
to give us the skills and the assets and the
information and resources for us to just not take our
family to the next level, but us take our friends
and people around us as well.
Speaker 3 (12:31):
Before we go to break I'll be remiss not to
complete the conversation about the award show. Tell us about
the war show when it's happening, but also how can
one participate it in next year?
Speaker 4 (12:41):
Absolutely, So, the award Show is a part of a
broader experience called Wealth Weekend. And on Friday this Friday,
upcoming Friday, we have a educational conference, right because we
don't we want to make sure people get the actual
information to learn how to hit those milestones. Because this
is an event for our clients as well as it's
open to the public. So to your point, if you're
not our client, you might not yet know the strategies
and insights on how to improve your network. So if
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we first start with the education, right, we have some
powerhouse speakers, myself and Carter will be some of them,
but also some other speakers on Friday, and then after
people get a chance to get out that information, right,
we want to give them a chance to digest it,
get a chance to connect with other people who were
in the room. Because the reason why this started and
evolved to the next level is we invested in ourselves
and we went to a conference, right, and we met
at that conference, and then that compounded into a friendship,
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a business partnership, and our brotherhood. Right, So we want
to get people an opportunities to connect in a meaningful ways.
Speaker 1 (13:30):
We have a mixer after the conference.
Speaker 4 (13:33):
Then that Saturday is when we have the award show,
So early evening we have the award show, and it's
a two part award show, So we're celebrating our clients
who have achieved the milestones, but then also other pillars
of the community. Had we known about you probably would
have been celebrated as well. But pillars of the community
who are helping us in this mission. Because we know
that we're not the only two guys in the financial
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literacy space pushing this narrative forward.
Speaker 1 (13:57):
So we want to let them know that we see
them too.
Speaker 4 (13:59):
Right, So, who are educated about stocks, people who educate
about real estate and all the other different categories.
Speaker 1 (14:04):
They also get celebrated.
Speaker 4 (14:05):
And amplified as a part of this experience because it's
not for us hitting that one hundred thousand Peape Parson target.
And we don't care if it all comes through Melon
and Money. We just want to be the conduit to
make it happen. Right, And then at the end of that,
we have another celebration, a sneaker ball, right, so everybody
comes suited and booted, they're all dressed up. They can
take off the shoes that were hurting their feet, they
(14:25):
can pop on the sneakers and have a good time
for the rest of the evening. And if if you're
in Atlanta area or you're in the surrounding area, we
have tickets available on melonimoney dot com.
Speaker 1 (14:34):
All you have to do is go to the website.
Speaker 4 (14:36):
I think we have some tickets left, tw tickets left
to attend tickets, a few tickets left to attend the event.
Speaker 1 (14:42):
And if you do miss it, for whatever reason.
Speaker 4 (14:43):
If you can't make it or we're sold out by
the time you get to the site, visit melonomoney dot com.
Stay tuned in what we have going on. Visit our
YouTube channel. We post a couple of episodes every single week.
Haven't missed the week since twenty twenty one. Because we
always want to educate regardless. If people can tap in
with our community and deepened meaning ways, we want to
make sure that we provide a platform that people can
learn from.
Speaker 3 (15:02):
I'm going to tell you something. Both these brothers in shape,
you know, one of them got look like he walked
in with a weight kit helping wave health and wealth.
You well, there's arms, there's gun. That's gun, so he
can't let me touch this.
Speaker 1 (15:15):
But oh boy, stop.
Speaker 3 (15:17):
When we come back, we will learn more about them.
How did this organization start the name that? What does
that name mean? It's important that we understand their birth,
understand their journey and all those during their future. That's
all gonna happen when you come back to Money Making
Conversation master Class. Whoa boor Glad you're own the studio
because you learned something today.
Speaker 7 (15:37):
Please don't go anywhere. We'll be right back with more
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Speaker 3 (16:05):
Oh thank you all for just listening. Thank y'all for
encouraging me to continue with this show.
Speaker 5 (16:10):
Not like I won't stop. You know what I'm saying.
I won't keep doing it anyway. I won't do it
in my house, in my batesment.
Speaker 3 (16:15):
You know, I have two laps, two video gaests right now,
George and Carter, and they are gonna be talking about
their business. But you know, when I was reading your resume,
it was talking about innovative. When I hear that word innovative,
I don't know what that means, you know, invative ways
that you can build your wealth. Because let's be honest.
(16:37):
I got a credit card, I know about CDs, I
know about stock, I know about insurance.
Speaker 1 (16:44):
What's innovative? When am I missing? George? Yeah, that's a
great question, right.
Speaker 4 (16:49):
So you know I have this tagline that I like
to help people achieve financial freedom. Three times faster than
traditional financial advice, right, And it sounds like a good tagline.
But to your point, if I don't unpack that, you
might not know what that means. So the first thing
that comes with that is number one, understanding you know,
how anybody can invest in the stock market?
Speaker 1 (17:07):
Right, Like, how what does that look like?
Speaker 4 (17:09):
And so for me, I've always helped people understand what
I like to call the Burger King investment strategy and
what I mean by that. What I mean is McDonald
spends millions of dollars a year figuring out where they
want to put their next location. Right there in the
real estate business as well, so they put a lot
of thought into where the next location is going to go. Right,
So the question becomes, well, how does Burger King decide
where they want to put.
Speaker 1 (17:26):
Their next location?
Speaker 4 (17:28):
Well, they probably put it across the street or in
proximity to McDonald's, right, because if someone wants McDonald's, they
probably are also okay with Burger King.
Speaker 1 (17:34):
So what does that mean with investing? What that means
is there's companies.
Speaker 4 (17:38):
Like Vanguard, black Rock, right, these really big companies that
spend multimillion dollars on deciding the right companies and investments
that need to go in these things called index funds
and ETFs, right, And I'll explain what that means in
a second. And so instead of me, even though I'm
well researched and I understand how the stock market works,
an average investor might not. So what they can do
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is they can piggyback right the research that these big
companies have already done and simply select the fund like
a VOO which is an index fund, or QQQ, and
all the research has already been done on if this
fund makes sense. Right. And so when people know that,
now they don't have to be experts in the stock market.
They don't necessarily have to know everything about the inner
(18:20):
workings of the stock market. They know that Vanguard has
spent millions of dollars on research, they manage tradings dollars
in assets, and they're gonna do their due diligence on
picking the right companies.
Speaker 1 (18:30):
Right.
Speaker 4 (18:31):
So now anybody can become an investor. Now take it
a step further, because you have the ability to look
inside of those funds. You can see, well, what are
the top five to ten companies in these funds? These
funds have five hundred different investments in them, but what
are the top five to ten. Well, I had this
aha moment to say, well, what happens if I piggyback
the research and invest in the index fund, but I
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also select some of those top companies outside of that.
So now I get the performance of the top companies
while still having the security of the fund. Doing that
strategy has allowed me to outperform the market for the
past seven years, right, So that's kind of the foundational
level of what makes the strategy innovative. Now beyond that,
(19:12):
to Carter's point, a lot of people pay money in taxes,
So I said, well, shoot, everybody talks about buying low
and selling high. What they don't tell you is when
you sell high, even though capital gains tax are lower
than other ordinary income taxes you might pay, it's still taxes.
Speaker 1 (19:25):
Yes, it is right.
Speaker 4 (19:26):
So what happens when you can have investments benefit from
the growth and not have to sell right by leveraging
that investment account and basically becoming your own bank borring
against the value of the account. So, for example, if
you had one hundred thousand dollars invested. A lot of
people don't realize you can go to Charles Swab. You
can go to Fidelity and say, hey, look you see
I have the money invested. Could you give me a
(19:47):
lot of credit based upon the value of my account? Sure,
why wouldn't we? See you have the money invested. So
now your money gets to remain invested. You now get
to avoid the taxes, and then we're we're going to
teach you to get that money not to go buy stuff.
Speaker 1 (19:58):
The interest you interest your fan back interest to so
to you who yourself?
Speaker 3 (20:04):
Okay, right, I had your taxman came in exacting right
now the hoop, right, So then you take that money.
Speaker 1 (20:13):
But here's the here's the kicker.
Speaker 4 (20:14):
Even if you weren't paying the interest back to yourself,
you're only going to borrow the money once you've identified
an investment opportunity that's going to exceed the interest that
you would owe.
Speaker 1 (20:23):
That's the infinite money glitch.
Speaker 4 (20:24):
Right. If I can borrow money at six percent, right,
go and buy an investment property that's going to produce
higher than the cost of that capital, and then take
that cash flow and put it back in my investment
accouncil can compound even further. That's that's what we like
to call it infinite money glitch. Right, most people are
just so used to hearing the term borrowing and associating
it with debt, buying clothes, buying cars, buying liabilities. Right,
(20:48):
when you take that same equation but use it to
buy investments, it's a totally different ball game.
Speaker 1 (20:53):
People just have to get on the right side of
the equation.
Speaker 3 (20:55):
Wow, this relationship being a money man and being a CPA.
Speaker 1 (21:00):
So that's that's what I see here.
Speaker 3 (21:02):
You know, good combo is good combo because in the end,
you know, taxes kill us. All taxes can you know,
can put you in jail if you don't follow Them'll
discover that famous actor. Plenty of them out there told
us that. So when you do, you have an innovative plan.
He's told us an innovative plan when it comes to
(21:25):
making money. Seven year plans, worked, strategized, your CPA highly rated,
topping the class.
Speaker 1 (21:33):
That's what makes you special.
Speaker 6 (21:35):
Well, I teach entrepreneurs how to basically have the irs
help pay their bills. Right, So if you start a business,
right podcast whatever, you buy that lab. If you don't
have a business, you buy that laptop. That's a personal expense. Absolutely,
if you start a business and you buy that laptop,
that's a business expense, absolutely, So the IRS will now
give you a tax deduction for you buying something you're
(21:56):
already going to buy anyway, right, So now you can,
now that you know that, you look around your house
and say, what other personal expense can I turn into
a legitimate tax deduction? If you have a business that
you operate from home, the IRS is lets you take
advantage of the home office deduction, which will allow you
to write off a portion of your rent or your
mortgage every single month. Again, any utilities and utilities and internet,
(22:17):
and these are things you're already paying for, So why
not get the IRS to step in and help give
you a tax deduction so you can lower the amount
that you're trying to pay. So step number one is
how can we turn our personal expenses into tax deductible
business expenses? Step number two is how can we leverage
assets to help us save on taxes? So now that
we're saving on taxes, we might get a refund check
(22:37):
because we turn we now increased our write offs, So
you might get some money back from the IRS if
you use some of that refund to, let's say, buy
a real estate property. Real estate allows you to earn
money in your bank account while losing money on your
tax return, So you can actually cast for from that
real estate and not pay any taxes. Not to mention,
the losses on your tax return from your real estate
property gets to get subtracted from other income you make
(23:00):
at work or your other businesses. So you're making tax
free money in real estate and you're lessening your tax
bill and your W two job. And then the last
step is like, all right, how are there other ways
that we can invest in not pay the irs we use?
So we take advantage of tax advantage accounts like iras
roth iras, or we can lever strategies like George mentioned
by investing in our investment account and then borrowing from
(23:22):
my assets to buy other assets. The wealthiest people in
the country, they buy assets, they use that to buy assets,
and they use the money from the assets to pay
off the debts, and then they borrow from the debts tax.
Speaker 1 (23:37):
Free to go buy other assets.
Speaker 6 (23:39):
This is a wealth game, and if you're gonna play
the game, you need to learn the real I love it,
you know, I smile because you know a lot of
the stuff I know naturally It's always good to hear
it come back at you and realize, hey, the model works.
Speaker 3 (23:53):
Stick to a rashan, you know, because there is a
long term model because a lot of times we want
to win the lotto, Witchdoc. This is a plan in
the stock game, which is a plan and a goal
or in in its system. As we wrap up the call,
and I will be at your war show.
Speaker 6 (24:08):
Okay, okay, y'all know, okay, and I will yeah, pe
access He got a step us one right.
Speaker 3 (24:12):
Now, this ain't even nothing worried worry sneakers, right, I gotta.
Speaker 4 (24:19):
Have a join So you how much your regular shoes
and then and then when the when the when the
war show is over, then you can transition to your sneaker,
same outfit.
Speaker 1 (24:27):
This is all good, It's all good, I got it,
he said.
Speaker 3 (24:29):
Let's I know the war shows happening, but tell us
again about the website and so people can reach out
to you in the future one hundred percent.
Speaker 4 (24:35):
So the website is meling in money dot com. That's
spelled et m E l A N I N money.
I hope you're not spelled money. Meling in money dot com.
That's where you can find all of our resources, and
I also would encourage you to use that same name
that searches on YouTube. Find our YouTube channel, subscribe, dropping
an amazing content every single week, and we can't wait
for you to be a part of the community.
Speaker 3 (24:54):
Guys, you're fantastic. Thank y'all for coming in our studio
and we will talk soon. I appreciate y'all.
Speaker 1 (24:58):
Thank you.
Speaker 3 (24:59):
This has been another d money Making Conversation Masterclass hosted
by me Rashan McDonald. Thank you to my guests who
are talking today, and thank you to my listening audience.
Speaker 7 (25:08):
Now.
Speaker 3 (25:08):
If you want to listen to any episodes I want
to be guests on my show, visit Moneymaking Conversation dot com.
Our social media handler is money Making Conversations. Join us
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Keep winning.
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This has been another edition of Money Making Conversation Masterclass
hosted by me Rashaan McDonald. Thank you to our guests
on the show today and thank you our listening to
the audience now. If you want to listen to any
episode I want to be a guest on the show,
visit Moneymakingconversations dot com. Our social media handle is money
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