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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Joining me live in the studio right now is the
acting Assistant Commissioner of Northern Territory Police, Peter Maley.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good morning to Youaty.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good to have you in the studio now, Peter, I
understand there's been a bit of an update on the
crime that really infuriated a lot of people that had
occurred at Crocodiler's Park where there was ducks, a family
of ducks driven over. There was selfies taken with the crocodile,
all sorts of things, a car stolen as well. I
(00:30):
believe where are things at with that investigation.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So it's about two o'clock yesterday, Cady.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, the tried members along with the Dog Operations Unit
arrested nineteen year old male from an address in Malac
and that's the you know, the as you spoke about
the offense. Has it occurred, you know around about mid
ninety broke into crocodilers you know the style of crocodile,
took some selfies, style of car, run over the ducks
(00:56):
and burnt the car out in Casarona. So crime spree there.
So it's good to have him in custody.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So nineteen years old, do you know what he's been
charged with off the Topia.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, I do so.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
He's been charged with burglary, damaged to property by four,
trespassed by two, interfered with protected wildlife, theft, and arrange
of traffic offenses.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And he wasn't on bail. Was he known to police?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
He's known to place, but I don't know whether he's
on boo.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Right, Well, I'm glad that you've been able to catch
him in pretty quickly. I mean, you're just like, there's
a whole like all of that is frustrating, but then animals,
you know, being run over and being mistreated, I think
is just a whole other level and a whole other
layer to the whole incident, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Absolutely it's a really poor behavior and it's great that
he's in caustody.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, Peter, we also know well, actually we've been contacted
by some listeners about a possible sexual assault in Casharina
yesterday afternoon. Do you have any info on that or
do you know if that's the case off the Topia
notes there.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I haven't heard of that one, Codie.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, all right, Well, we'll keep it close eye on things.
We'll see what we can find out. Is there any
update when it comes to the watchhouse. I know that
there been an event last week with certainly with the
Correction saying that the majority of prisoners that Corrections prisoners
have now been taken out of the Northern Territory watch
(02:20):
House in Palmerston. How are things striking from police perspective?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You're really good at the moment. Corrections has been doing
a lot of work in that space. So last Tuesday,
the sorry not last Yearday, Tuesday week ago, the Correction
staff vacated the paras the watchhouse, took seventy two staff
prisoners with them and they left some prisoners behind that
would have normally belonged to them, So we've been looking
(02:44):
after them for a little while.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But Corrections working really hard.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And right now there's seventy one people in the police
watchhouses across the ent, but only thirty nine of them
belonged to Correction, so that has really cleared up and
the situation is continuing to be better than what it
has I mean, does that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Help you guys in terms of just having a bit
more space in those watch houses again and when you
go out and you arrest people, having somewhere to take
them straight back to.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, for sure, cody, and that is a really big one.
When we were we had all the corrections prisoners and
sometimes it was over one hundred, so space was at
a premium and there was lots of prisoners having to
move around the facility, and of course the stress on staff,
the police, the work inside the watch house aren't used
to dealing with those kind of numbers. So now that
(03:34):
they're manageable right across the end to things are looking.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
A lot better.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Peter tell Us, I know there's Over the last week
there'd been a couple of prison well custody escapes, I
guess you would call them. Certainly a twenty one year
old man who escaped custody. I think it was last
Tuesday evening if I remember my dates correctly. He was
captured over the course of the weekend, I believe in Darwin.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, correct, doun a bus stop in Malac.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And we also arrested his girlfriend in relation to her
assisting him with his escape from custody.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, right, so you reckon she was involved.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Pre meet arranged and she picked him up and took
him away from the.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
From the jail, and I mean like there was some
arjibarju a belt, whether he was dangerous and whether police
should have said that he'd been like that he was dangerous.
I mean, what did you kind of make of that discussion?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, I think it was the holding line came from
the media, so I'm not sure what information they had
at the time. When you look at him, he had
no prior convictions. But when you look at digging a
bit further and look at his heady students.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Dangerous, yeah, and you know, and obviously wanting to make
sure that the community remained safe. By the look of things,
police working as quickly as possible then to try and
recapture him. That's now happened now. It wasn't the only
are the only escape was it? Over the last week?
I think there was one in Alice Springs.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
As well, correct, Codie.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Mostly the same type of thing low from the cottages
at the present they're so very low security and as
has happened in the past, they wander away, but once.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Again picked up pretty quickly. The Fugitive Task.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Force grabbed the young fellow up in Darwin in Malac.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So that was yeah, right, that was really good.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So what had gotten from Alistair?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Sorry, no, no, sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
The other one. I was going to say, goodness me
he was bloody, busy, but no where I mix that
one up. I do apologize. Hey, I want to ask
you about a domestic violence incident that happened on Saturday,
because this one sounds incredibly frightening. Northern Territory police ended
up arresting this forty four year old male in relation
to a domestic violence related incident that had occurred in Alowa. Now,
(05:48):
from what I understand, police members attended the scene and
while speaking to a witness at the door of the residence,
observed the offender armed with a crossbow which he was
aiming at the police. The offender was instructed to drop
that weapon, at which time he withdrew into the rear
of the residence. The victim and the witness were able
(06:10):
to safely exit that residence. That is terrifying stuff for
everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, you're right, Cody, is an incredibly dangerous situation, especially.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
For the victim and the witness.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
That forty four year old mail attended that house, which
was his ex partner's house. That was a domestic violence
incident and to be pointy crossbows at police is dangerous
for him.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And for us.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So it was a dangerous situation but resolved quite quickly
by police on the site.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So some really good work.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But it does seem like the Northern Territory Police are
having to deal with like a lot of violence and
in a lot of cases directed at offices as well
on the ground. I mean, it's a tough element to
be dealing with on a daily basis, and I know
that police are trained in that space, but you know,
(07:06):
like it must be a difficult element to be dealing
with day in and day out of your jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, it is, Katie, and you know, you we don't
come to work to be punch in the face or
to be subjected to any violence. But you note the
prison numbers are up, so the arrest rates are up,
and during arrest sometimes you know, police get punched his
resistance and you know, unfortunately it's part of the job,
(07:34):
but unacceptable behavior on many occasions.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Hey, I want to ask you about a story that's
been running in the Northern Territory News. A senior Northern
Territory barrister has slammed an internal police investigation into the
unauthorized release of his watchhouse interview. Now it's understood no
charges are being considered after a month's long investigation into
the disclosure of CCTV footage of defense lawyer John Tippett,
(07:59):
who was picked up for drink driving after crashing into
a parked police car. A police spokesperson claims the video footage,
which allegedly sent unintentionally by a contracted public servant to
a private lawyer who was not involved in the case.
What did this internal investigation find?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
In Layman's terms, basically that that contracted public servant said
it in error. It's just straight human error, and that
was the internal investigation. I've read what was said in
the paper, but at the end of the day, it
is what it is, and just human error.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I mean a lot of people will be scratching their heads, going,
how on earth can that happen? Like how can the
public servant end up with that vision? And then can
it end up being sent on And a lot of
people will be listening thinking, well, could that happen to me?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
For sure, from what I know about it, I think
the footage was part of the an attachment as part
of the prosecution file. No systems were breached or anything
like that. No poor behavior or you know, improper behavior.
It's just unfortunately, just human eerror.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I mean, do you know if the force could be
at risk of civil litigation over the situation?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, no idea, Katie, But anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I mean, has that staff member been reprimanded or what's
the you know, what's the action now?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I think that from the internal investigation obviously looking at
what the systems we have in place, what is normal procedure,
you know, SAPs, and I think it was just a
review of that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But yeah, just unintentional.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
To anybody listening this morning, I mean, can you reassure
the community that something like that's not going to happen again,
or you know, if somebody is in a situation like
that where it's not going to happen to them.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I would like to tell you that that would never
happen again. But human error. We're all human and sometimes
people make mistakes. I've made more than most, so you.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Know, well, look it's I think it's an interesting situation
and I've no doubt there'll be more discussion about it.
I mean, for me, I kind of watched it and thought,
oh shit, I'd hate to be in a situation where
when I'd done something wrong, I knew, I knew I'd
done something wrong. I was already facing you know, the
aftermath of that, and then all of a sudden, this
(10:20):
vision ends up being made public as well. You'd be horrified,
you know, That's how I would feel.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, I'd feel the same, and being filmed and have
that released in not your finest moment. Yeah, we none
of us want to be judged you on those terms.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, Acting Assistant Commissioner Peter Maley really appreciate your time
this morning. Thank you very much for joining us in
the studio. Thanks Katie, thank you.
Joining me live in the studio right now is the
acting Assistant Commissioner of Northern Territory Police, Peter Maley.
Speaker 2 (00:06):
Good morning to Youaty.
Speaker 1 (00:08):
Good to have you in the studio now, Peter, I
understand there's been a bit of an update on the
crime that really infuriated a lot of people that had
occurred at Crocodiler's Park where there was ducks, a family
of ducks driven over. There was selfies taken with the crocodile,
all sorts of things, a car stolen as well. I
(00:30):
believe where are things at with that investigation.
Speaker 2 (00:32):
So it's about two o'clock yesterday, Cady.
Speaker 3 (00:34):
Yeah, the tried members along with the Dog Operations Unit
arrested nineteen year old male from an address in Malac
and that's the you know, the as you spoke about
the offense. Has it occurred, you know around about mid
ninety broke into crocodilers you know the style of crocodile,
took some selfies, style of car, run over the ducks
(00:56):
and burnt the car out in Casarona. So crime spree there.
So it's good to have him in custody.
Speaker 1 (01:02):
So nineteen years old, do you know what he's been
charged with off the Topia.
Speaker 2 (01:06):
Yeah, I do so.
Speaker 3 (01:07):
He's been charged with burglary, damaged to property by four,
trespassed by two, interfered with protected wildlife, theft, and arrange
of traffic offenses.
Speaker 1 (01:18):
And he wasn't on bail. Was he known to police?
Speaker 2 (01:21):
He's known to place, but I don't know whether he's
on boo.
Speaker 3 (01:23):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (01:23):
Right, Well, I'm glad that you've been able to catch
him in pretty quickly. I mean, you're just like, there's
a whole like all of that is frustrating, but then animals,
you know, being run over and being mistreated, I think
is just a whole other level and a whole other
layer to the whole incident, isn't it.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
Absolutely it's a really poor behavior and it's great that
he's in caustody.
Speaker 1 (01:44):
Yeah, Peter, we also know well, actually we've been contacted
by some listeners about a possible sexual assault in Casharina
yesterday afternoon. Do you have any info on that or
do you know if that's the case off the Topia
notes there.
Speaker 2 (01:58):
I haven't heard of that one, Codie.
Speaker 1 (01:59):
Yeah, all right, Well, we'll keep it close eye on things.
We'll see what we can find out. Is there any
update when it comes to the watchhouse. I know that
there been an event last week with certainly with the
Correction saying that the majority of prisoners that Corrections prisoners
have now been taken out of the Northern Territory watch
(02:20):
House in Palmerston. How are things striking from police perspective?
Speaker 3 (02:23):
You're really good at the moment. Corrections has been doing
a lot of work in that space. So last Tuesday,
the sorry not last Yearday, Tuesday week ago, the Correction
staff vacated the paras the watchhouse, took seventy two staff
prisoners with them and they left some prisoners behind that
would have normally belonged to them, So we've been looking
(02:44):
after them for a little while.
Speaker 2 (02:46):
But Corrections working really hard.
Speaker 3 (02:48):
And right now there's seventy one people in the police
watchhouses across the ent, but only thirty nine of them
belonged to Correction, so that has really cleared up and
the situation is continuing to be better than what it
has I mean, does that.
Speaker 1 (03:04):
Help you guys in terms of just having a bit
more space in those watch houses again and when you
go out and you arrest people, having somewhere to take
them straight back to.
Speaker 3 (03:13):
Yeah, for sure, cody, and that is a really big one.
When we were we had all the corrections prisoners and
sometimes it was over one hundred, so space was at
a premium and there was lots of prisoners having to
move around the facility, and of course the stress on staff,
the police, the work inside the watch house aren't used
to dealing with those kind of numbers. So now that
(03:34):
they're manageable right across the end to things are looking.
Speaker 2 (03:38):
A lot better.
Speaker 1 (03:39):
Peter tell Us, I know there's Over the last week
there'd been a couple of prison well custody escapes, I
guess you would call them. Certainly a twenty one year
old man who escaped custody. I think it was last
Tuesday evening if I remember my dates correctly. He was
captured over the course of the weekend, I believe in Darwin.
Speaker 2 (03:58):
Yeah, correct, doun a bus stop in Malac.
Speaker 3 (04:01):
And we also arrested his girlfriend in relation to her
assisting him with his escape from custody.
Speaker 1 (04:08):
Yeah, right, so you reckon she was involved.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
Yeah, there was a.
Speaker 3 (04:11):
Pre meet arranged and she picked him up and took
him away from the.
Speaker 1 (04:14):
From the jail, and I mean like there was some
arjibarju a belt, whether he was dangerous and whether police
should have said that he'd been like that he was dangerous.
I mean, what did you kind of make of that discussion?
Speaker 3 (04:27):
Well, I think it was the holding line came from
the media, so I'm not sure what information they had
at the time. When you look at him, he had
no prior convictions. But when you look at digging a
bit further and look at his heady students.
Speaker 1 (04:43):
Dangerous, yeah, and you know, and obviously wanting to make
sure that the community remained safe. By the look of things,
police working as quickly as possible then to try and
recapture him. That's now happened now. It wasn't the only
are the only escape was it? Over the last week?
I think there was one in Alice Springs.
Speaker 2 (05:03):
As well, correct, Codie.
Speaker 3 (05:05):
Mostly the same type of thing low from the cottages
at the present they're so very low security and as
has happened in the past, they wander away, but once.
Speaker 2 (05:16):
Again picked up pretty quickly. The Fugitive Task.
Speaker 3 (05:19):
Force grabbed the young fellow up in Darwin in Malac.
Speaker 2 (05:23):
So that was yeah, right, that was really good.
Speaker 1 (05:25):
So what had gotten from Alistair?
Speaker 2 (05:26):
Sorry, no, no, sorry.
Speaker 1 (05:27):
The other one. I was going to say, goodness me
he was bloody, busy, but no where I mix that
one up. I do apologize. Hey, I want to ask
you about a domestic violence incident that happened on Saturday,
because this one sounds incredibly frightening. Northern Territory police ended
up arresting this forty four year old male in relation
to a domestic violence related incident that had occurred in Alowa. Now,
(05:48):
from what I understand, police members attended the scene and
while speaking to a witness at the door of the residence,
observed the offender armed with a crossbow which he was
aiming at the police. The offender was instructed to drop
that weapon, at which time he withdrew into the rear
of the residence. The victim and the witness were able
(06:10):
to safely exit that residence. That is terrifying stuff for
everybody involved.
Speaker 3 (06:17):
Yeah, you're right, Cody, is an incredibly dangerous situation, especially.
Speaker 2 (06:22):
For the victim and the witness.
Speaker 3 (06:25):
That forty four year old mail attended that house, which
was his ex partner's house. That was a domestic violence
incident and to be pointy crossbows at police is dangerous
for him.
Speaker 2 (06:37):
And for us.
Speaker 3 (06:38):
So it was a dangerous situation but resolved quite quickly
by police on the site.
Speaker 2 (06:43):
So some really good work.
Speaker 1 (06:45):
But it does seem like the Northern Territory Police are
having to deal with like a lot of violence and
in a lot of cases directed at offices as well
on the ground. I mean, it's a tough element to
be dealing with on a daily basis, and I know
that police are trained in that space, but you know,
(07:06):
like it must be a difficult element to be dealing
with day in and day out of your jobs.
Speaker 3 (07:13):
Yeah, it is, Katie, and you know, you we don't
come to work to be punch in the face or
to be subjected to any violence. But you note the
prison numbers are up, so the arrest rates are up,
and during arrest sometimes you know, police get punched his
resistance and you know, unfortunately it's part of the job,
(07:34):
but unacceptable behavior on many occasions.
Speaker 1 (07:37):
Hey, I want to ask you about a story that's
been running in the Northern Territory News. A senior Northern
Territory barrister has slammed an internal police investigation into the
unauthorized release of his watchhouse interview. Now it's understood no
charges are being considered after a month's long investigation into
the disclosure of CCTV footage of defense lawyer John Tippett,
(07:59):
who was picked up for drink driving after crashing into
a parked police car. A police spokesperson claims the video footage,
which allegedly sent unintentionally by a contracted public servant to
a private lawyer who was not involved in the case.
What did this internal investigation find?
Speaker 3 (08:19):
In Layman's terms, basically that that contracted public servant said
it in error. It's just straight human error, and that
was the internal investigation. I've read what was said in
the paper, but at the end of the day, it
is what it is, and just human error.
Speaker 1 (08:38):
I mean a lot of people will be scratching their heads, going,
how on earth can that happen? Like how can the
public servant end up with that vision? And then can
it end up being sent on And a lot of
people will be listening thinking, well, could that happen to me?
Speaker 2 (08:50):
Yeah?
Speaker 3 (08:51):
For sure, from what I know about it, I think
the footage was part of the an attachment as part
of the prosecution file. No systems were breached or anything
like that. No poor behavior or you know, improper behavior.
It's just unfortunately, just human eerror.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I mean, do you know if the force could be
at risk of civil litigation over the situation?
Speaker 2 (09:14):
Yeah, no idea, Katie, But anything's possible.
Speaker 1 (09:17):
I mean, has that staff member been reprimanded or what's
the you know, what's the action now?
Speaker 3 (09:25):
I think that from the internal investigation obviously looking at
what the systems we have in place, what is normal procedure,
you know, SAPs, and I think it was just a
review of that.
Speaker 2 (09:37):
But yeah, just unintentional.
Speaker 1 (09:39):
To anybody listening this morning, I mean, can you reassure
the community that something like that's not going to happen again,
or you know, if somebody is in a situation like
that where it's not going to happen to them.
Speaker 3 (09:50):
I would like to tell you that that would never
happen again. But human error. We're all human and sometimes
people make mistakes. I've made more than most, so you.
Speaker 1 (09:59):
Know, well, look it's I think it's an interesting situation
and I've no doubt there'll be more discussion about it.
I mean, for me, I kind of watched it and thought,
oh shit, I'd hate to be in a situation where
when I'd done something wrong, I knew, I knew I'd
done something wrong. I was already facing you know, the
aftermath of that, and then all of a sudden, this
(10:20):
vision ends up being made public as well. You'd be horrified,
you know, That's how I would feel.
Speaker 3 (10:25):
Yeah, I'd feel the same, and being filmed and have
that released in not your finest moment. Yeah, we none
of us want to be judged you on those terms.
Speaker 1 (10:36):
Well, Acting Assistant Commissioner Peter Maley really appreciate your time
this morning. Thank you very much for joining us in
the studio. Thanks Katie, thank you.
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