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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now joining me in the studio is acting Northern Territory
Police Commander for the Darwin Region, Kirsten Engles. Good morning
to you.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning Katie, now, Commander.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Well, a couple of incidents from overnight, but can we
first talk about this incident that happened in Tiverndale. Somebody
allegedly or apparently held up at knife point in their
car stoling.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, Katie.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What we know is in the early hours of this morning,
please were informed that offenders had robbed a mail at
knife point at a petrol station and wish Hut stealing
his Toyota Yaris vehicle. The vehicle was then driven to
an address in Malac and rammed into the gate of
a residence there and we believe that that one's TV related.
The vehicle was then driven to a residential address in
(00:44):
Winelli where it was allegedly used to ram a lunch
Heaven snack bar. So general duty is attended and strukeforce,
trident and dogs were recalled to duty. So shortly after
the vehicle was sighted in Gray and the vehicle failed
to stops or pursuit occurred.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
During this interaction. The offender is.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Alleged to have attempted to ram the responding police units.
Absolutely disgusting and thank goodness no one was injured. Tire
spikes were successfully deployed and as a result, a fifteen
year old youth was arrested and hot off the press.
A sixteen year old co offender has now been arrested.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Okay, so you've got the second the second teenager. Where
did you get that sixteen year old?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I'm not actually sure where they got. The struck force
tried and have picked him up this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, I tell you what, you know, it's pretty frightening stuff.
I'd be absolutely terrified if somebody, if I was filling
up my car and something like that happened. I guess
the advice, you know what is the advice I suppose
to people should something like this occur, because you know,
your first instinct is to sort of fight back. But
when somebody's got, you know, an aged weapon, it's pretty
it's a pretty dangerous scenario.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh, it's terribly dangerous. I mean, just to wrap this
one up, Yeah, what we've got here is an innocent
victim allegedly rubbed at knife point, a gate been rammed,
a shop's been smashed. Pursuits happened in our streets, including
attempts to ram police vehicles, and these offenders thought they
could do what they wanted, and they're reckless and they're
dangerous and it's completely disgraceful. And now they've been stopped
(02:12):
and I'm not I'm sure I'm not alone, and being
pretty relieved that they've both been picked up.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think it's really good, good
job by the Northern Territory Police being able to pick
those two teenagers up. Do you know, Commander, whether either
of them were known to the police or on bail
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
At this point, I'm informed neither were on bail, but
both are very very well known to police.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, And are they local or were they here from
somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Do you know, No, I don't know the detail on that,
or we'll keep.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
A close eye on that. Again. I mean, what do
you say to people if they wind up where they
feel as though there is sort of a dangerous situation
potentially unfolding. I suppose in the first instance, if you
can see someone approaching and you're able to get back
in your car and leave, that'd be a good thing
to do. But sometimes you know, they like people sneak
up on you when you're really not ready for it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, and I can understand the desire to want to
protect your property, but I'm telling you need to protect
yourself first. I'm telling you not to put yourself in
harm's way. We are pretty quick at responding, We're pretty
quick at picking these people up. So I need the
public to know that they should not ever put themselves
in danger if it can at all be avoided. Understanding
(03:25):
this is deeply concerning this behavior.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, good advice In terms of them trying to ram
the police vehicles, that's worrying behavior. And it's not the
first time that we've seen this kind of behavior, but
it's you know, you're talking about young people who have
stolen a car. They're then driving dangerously, dangerously enough that
they've got no regard for the.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Police, and they're not even old enough to hold a license,
let alone drive. So the fact that they're driving around
is scary enough, as it is then to be fueled
with some sort of intention to commit offenses, you know,
triples that. So, yeah, for them to be driving at
the public disgraceful and our police members. Yeah, it's what
can I say, I can't say enough how disgusting it is,
(04:07):
and you know we will use every tool we've got
legally and lawfully to hold them to account.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hey, it's not the only pursuit from overnight either in Rosebury,
Northern Territory Police there was also another incident, is that right?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
There was at about four am this morning a police
pursuit was held in Rosebery, Palmerston Strikeforce Trident and a
dog unit member attended. The vehicle eventually stopped in bushland,
with the alleged defender running off into the nearby bush.
Cordon was set up and the dog unit tracked that
person down who lay in the bush trying to hide
(04:40):
from police. But we're unsuccessful in doing that. That person
is now under arrest and was a current arrest target
force Strike Force Trident.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right, So you're you're able to get that person any
idea on ages or anything?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, thirty six year old male?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, right, and on target in relation to sort of property.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Crime or arrange a different things. Thanks Hik.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We're well done to the police on being able to
apprehend that person as well. Hey, I also know the
Northern Territory Police have been involved in an anti social
behavior sort of a crackdown I guess you'd say on
anti social behavior on public buses over yesterday, and I
think it runs for today and tomorrow as well. It
is all part of this crackdown that's involving transit officers,
(05:24):
Wilson Security, as well as family and youth support officers
and student engagement officers flooding the bus network as kids
go back to school. How's it been in the last
twenty four hours or so.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, they did a great job yesterday, and we love
being part of these multi agency operations. We think that
together we can make a lot more impact than alone.
So yesterday was the first day and the police involvement
was patrolling in and around the bus exchanges, the bus stop,
surrounding car parks and any areas of high risk. So
I can give you some stats from yesterday. So they
(05:59):
engaged with one hundred and eighty people and one hundred
and five were moved on, and that means they had
no real reason to be in the area, so we're
told to leave. One hundred and fourteen liters of alcohol
were tipped out, and that means they had that had
alcohol where they shouldn't live. So that's bear wine and spirits.
That's a lot of god is, Five summary infringements were
(06:19):
given out, nine banned drinking orders were issued, three arrests
were made, seven people were taken into protective custody, and
seventy eight people were wandered with two weapons located.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So those are pretty high stats for day one.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, unfortunately, it shows struck quite a strong connection between
those areas and the consumption of alcohol.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, some weapons, So that's.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Disappointing, but we're out there, we're in force, like you said, yesterday,
today and tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So seventy eight people wandered with those with those weapons.
Any idea what they actually.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Had, No, I haven't been given that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, right, all right, we'll keep an eye out for that.
But I mean even that alcohol, one hundred and fourteen
leaders of alcohol. That's of a lot of alcohol in
like a what was that a twenty four hour period?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
There was between two thirty and nine o'clock. So no,
it just shows out there, you know, the afternoon. And
I've always said if we can deal with the alcohol
early on, we will stop offenses happening later. And so
these are people that are around that transit security sorry,
transit area. We don't want people hopping onto buses that
have got a balley full of glock.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, oh absolutely, and then you worry about the safety
of all the passengers on there, but also the drivers,
everybody involves. So anything that can be done to really
try to stamp out some of that behavior I think
is a good thing. Hey, before I let you go,
an interesting one from earlier in the week, and I
know what happened in Alice Springs, but keen to sort
of find out whether you're concerned that it may have
drifted to Darwin. Police receiving several reports of counterfeit money
(07:46):
circulating in Alice Springs. Now on Tuesday, well yesterday police
located and seized over four thousand dollars in counterfeit notes.
Is there any concern that we might wind up with
some of that money sort of filtering to Darwin. I
guess by very nature of using cash, it ends up
all around the place.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, we haven't heard of it coming up this way yet,
but like you say, it's a realistic scenario that the
money will move if it's not picked up. So we're
asking people to do three things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Should you come into.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Unfortunately come into possession of a counterfeit note, and that
is to note the details of how you got it,
to store it in an envelope, and to report it
to the local police station. So it is an offense
to use it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Don't use it again.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But yeah, and I'm told that we can detect them
through things such as strange markings, any sort of words
like props or copy. They should be a little bit
obvious or maybe they've been tried to be covered up.
The note will sometimes feel different, it might feel quite
light or paper like, but one of the best ways
is to put it alongside a real note and look
(08:53):
for how genuine it looks.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, good, cool the difference. Ye, And I hope that
you haven't been given a bloody counterfeit I'd be disappointed
if I had. Hey, someone's just text through and asks
the fuel station drive off sore they an offense? Somebody's
just asking is it an offense if somebody drives off,
you know, without paying? And do people ever get prosecuted
for it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Asks Rob.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's definitely an offense to drive off without paying for
your fuel.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's called stealing.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And yes, we regularly get sent these by the service
stations asking us to follow up with them.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's certainly an offense.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah right, all right. Well, Cursten Angeles, the acting commander
for the Darwin Region. Really good to speak with you
this morning. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Thank you.
Now joining me in the studio is acting Northern Territory
Police Commander for the Darwin Region, Kirsten Engles. Good morning
to you.
Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning Katie, now, Commander.
Speaker 1 (00:11):
Well, a couple of incidents from overnight, but can we
first talk about this incident that happened in Tiverndale. Somebody
allegedly or apparently held up at knife point in their
car stoling.
Speaker 2 (00:21):
Yeah, Katie.
Speaker 3 (00:22):
What we know is in the early hours of this morning,
please were informed that offenders had robbed a mail at
knife point at a petrol station and wish Hut stealing
his Toyota Yaris vehicle. The vehicle was then driven to
an address in Malac and rammed into the gate of
a residence there and we believe that that one's TV related.
The vehicle was then driven to a residential address in
(00:44):
Winelli where it was allegedly used to ram a lunch
Heaven snack bar. So general duty is attended and strukeforce,
trident and dogs were recalled to duty. So shortly after
the vehicle was sighted in Gray and the vehicle failed
to stops or pursuit occurred.
Speaker 2 (01:02):
During this interaction. The offender is.
Speaker 3 (01:03):
Alleged to have attempted to ram the responding police units.
Absolutely disgusting and thank goodness no one was injured. Tire
spikes were successfully deployed and as a result, a fifteen
year old youth was arrested and hot off the press.
A sixteen year old co offender has now been arrested.
Speaker 1 (01:20):
Okay, so you've got the second the second teenager. Where
did you get that sixteen year old?
Speaker 3 (01:25):
I'm not actually sure where they got. The struck force
tried and have picked him up this morning.
Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, I tell you what, you know, it's pretty frightening stuff.
I'd be absolutely terrified if somebody, if I was filling
up my car and something like that happened. I guess
the advice, you know what is the advice I suppose
to people should something like this occur, because you know,
your first instinct is to sort of fight back. But
when somebody's got, you know, an aged weapon, it's pretty
it's a pretty dangerous scenario.
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Oh, it's terribly dangerous. I mean, just to wrap this
one up, Yeah, what we've got here is an innocent
victim allegedly rubbed at knife point, a gate been rammed,
a shop's been smashed. Pursuits happened in our streets, including
attempts to ram police vehicles, and these offenders thought they
could do what they wanted, and they're reckless and they're
dangerous and it's completely disgraceful. And now they've been stopped
(02:12):
and I'm not I'm sure I'm not alone, and being
pretty relieved that they've both been picked up.
Speaker 1 (02:16):
Yeah, one hundred percent. I think it's really good, good
job by the Northern Territory Police being able to pick
those two teenagers up. Do you know, Commander, whether either
of them were known to the police or on bail
or anything like that.
Speaker 3 (02:29):
At this point, I'm informed neither were on bail, but
both are very very well known to police.
Speaker 1 (02:34):
Okay, And are they local or were they here from
somewhere else?
Speaker 2 (02:38):
Do you know, No, I don't know the detail on that,
or we'll keep.
Speaker 1 (02:42):
A close eye on that. Again. I mean, what do
you say to people if they wind up where they
feel as though there is sort of a dangerous situation
potentially unfolding. I suppose in the first instance, if you
can see someone approaching and you're able to get back
in your car and leave, that'd be a good thing
to do. But sometimes you know, they like people sneak
up on you when you're really not ready for it.
Speaker 3 (03:03):
Yeah, and I can understand the desire to want to
protect your property, but I'm telling you need to protect
yourself first. I'm telling you not to put yourself in
harm's way. We are pretty quick at responding, We're pretty
quick at picking these people up. So I need the
public to know that they should not ever put themselves
in danger if it can at all be avoided. Understanding
(03:25):
this is deeply concerning this behavior.
Speaker 1 (03:27):
Yeah, good advice In terms of them trying to ram
the police vehicles, that's worrying behavior. And it's not the
first time that we've seen this kind of behavior, but
it's you know, you're talking about young people who have
stolen a car. They're then driving dangerously, dangerously enough that
they've got no regard for the.
Speaker 3 (03:44):
Police, and they're not even old enough to hold a license,
let alone drive. So the fact that they're driving around
is scary enough, as it is then to be fueled
with some sort of intention to commit offenses, you know,
triples that. So, yeah, for them to be driving at
the public disgraceful and our police members. Yeah, it's what
can I say, I can't say enough how disgusting it is,
(04:07):
and you know we will use every tool we've got
legally and lawfully to hold them to account.
Speaker 1 (04:12):
Hey, it's not the only pursuit from overnight either in Rosebury,
Northern Territory Police there was also another incident, is that right?
Speaker 3 (04:20):
There was at about four am this morning a police
pursuit was held in Rosebery, Palmerston Strikeforce Trident and a
dog unit member attended. The vehicle eventually stopped in bushland,
with the alleged defender running off into the nearby bush.
Cordon was set up and the dog unit tracked that
person down who lay in the bush trying to hide
(04:40):
from police. But we're unsuccessful in doing that. That person
is now under arrest and was a current arrest target
force Strike Force Trident.
Speaker 1 (04:49):
Right, So you're you're able to get that person any
idea on ages or anything?
Speaker 2 (04:53):
Yeah, thirty six year old male?
Speaker 1 (04:54):
Yeah, right, and on target in relation to sort of property.
Speaker 2 (04:58):
Crime or arrange a different things. Thanks Hik.
Speaker 1 (05:01):
We're well done to the police on being able to
apprehend that person as well. Hey, I also know the
Northern Territory Police have been involved in an anti social
behavior sort of a crackdown I guess you'd say on
anti social behavior on public buses over yesterday, and I
think it runs for today and tomorrow as well. It
is all part of this crackdown that's involving transit officers,
(05:24):
Wilson Security, as well as family and youth support officers
and student engagement officers flooding the bus network as kids
go back to school. How's it been in the last
twenty four hours or so.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
Yeah, they did a great job yesterday, and we love
being part of these multi agency operations. We think that
together we can make a lot more impact than alone.
So yesterday was the first day and the police involvement
was patrolling in and around the bus exchanges, the bus stop,
surrounding car parks and any areas of high risk. So
I can give you some stats from yesterday. So they
(05:59):
engaged with one hundred and eighty people and one hundred
and five were moved on, and that means they had
no real reason to be in the area, so we're
told to leave. One hundred and fourteen liters of alcohol
were tipped out, and that means they had that had
alcohol where they shouldn't live. So that's bear wine and spirits.
That's a lot of god is, Five summary infringements were
(06:19):
given out, nine banned drinking orders were issued, three arrests
were made, seven people were taken into protective custody, and
seventy eight people were wandered with two weapons located.
Speaker 2 (06:30):
So those are pretty high stats for day one.
Speaker 3 (06:33):
Yeah, unfortunately, it shows struck quite a strong connection between
those areas and the consumption of alcohol.
Speaker 2 (06:38):
Yeah, some weapons, So that's.
Speaker 3 (06:40):
Disappointing, but we're out there, we're in force, like you said, yesterday,
today and tomorrow.
Speaker 1 (06:44):
So seventy eight people wandered with those with those weapons.
Any idea what they actually.
Speaker 2 (06:51):
Had, No, I haven't been given that.
Speaker 1 (06:53):
Yeah, right, all right, we'll keep an eye out for that.
But I mean even that alcohol, one hundred and fourteen
leaders of alcohol. That's of a lot of alcohol in
like a what was that a twenty four hour period?
Speaker 3 (07:04):
There was between two thirty and nine o'clock. So no,
it just shows out there, you know, the afternoon. And
I've always said if we can deal with the alcohol
early on, we will stop offenses happening later. And so
these are people that are around that transit security sorry,
transit area. We don't want people hopping onto buses that
have got a balley full of glock.
Speaker 1 (07:22):
Yeah, oh absolutely, and then you worry about the safety
of all the passengers on there, but also the drivers,
everybody involves. So anything that can be done to really
try to stamp out some of that behavior I think
is a good thing. Hey, before I let you go,
an interesting one from earlier in the week, and I
know what happened in Alice Springs, but keen to sort
of find out whether you're concerned that it may have
drifted to Darwin. Police receiving several reports of counterfeit money
(07:46):
circulating in Alice Springs. Now on Tuesday, well yesterday police
located and seized over four thousand dollars in counterfeit notes.
Is there any concern that we might wind up with
some of that money sort of filtering to Darwin. I
guess by very nature of using cash, it ends up
all around the place.
Speaker 3 (08:03):
Yeah, we haven't heard of it coming up this way yet,
but like you say, it's a realistic scenario that the
money will move if it's not picked up. So we're
asking people to do three things.
Speaker 2 (08:13):
Should you come into.
Speaker 3 (08:17):
Unfortunately come into possession of a counterfeit note, and that
is to note the details of how you got it,
to store it in an envelope, and to report it
to the local police station. So it is an offense
to use it.
Speaker 2 (08:30):
Don't use it again.
Speaker 3 (08:32):
But yeah, and I'm told that we can detect them
through things such as strange markings, any sort of words
like props or copy. They should be a little bit
obvious or maybe they've been tried to be covered up.
The note will sometimes feel different, it might feel quite
light or paper like, but one of the best ways
is to put it alongside a real note and look
(08:53):
for how genuine it looks.
Speaker 1 (08:55):
Yeah, good, cool the difference. Ye, And I hope that
you haven't been given a bloody counterfeit I'd be disappointed
if I had. Hey, someone's just text through and asks
the fuel station drive off sore they an offense? Somebody's
just asking is it an offense if somebody drives off,
you know, without paying? And do people ever get prosecuted
for it?
Speaker 2 (09:13):
Asks Rob.
Speaker 3 (09:14):
It's definitely an offense to drive off without paying for
your fuel.
Speaker 2 (09:18):
That's called stealing.
Speaker 3 (09:19):
And yes, we regularly get sent these by the service
stations asking us to follow up with them.
Speaker 2 (09:23):
It's certainly an offense.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Yeah right, all right. Well, Cursten Angeles, the acting commander
for the Darwin Region. Really good to speak with you
this morning. I appreciate your time.
Speaker 2 (09:32):
Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1 (09:32):
Thank you.
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