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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now joining us live in the studio is Assistant Commissioner
Peter Maley. Good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (00:04):
Good morning, Cody.

Speaker 1 (00:05):
Now, Peter, we know that well, the latest stats on
Monday with at about two hundred and fifty five people
have purchased OC spray on that first day that it
became available. Have you got some more up to date
figures following the last couple of days?

Speaker 3 (00:19):
I do, Codie. So right now we have four hundred
and twenty nine individual purchases and that relates to seven
hundred and twenty five canisters.

Speaker 1 (00:29):
Okay, so about seven hundred and twenty five canisters, four
hundred and twenty nine purchasers. Now, when it comes to
people that were then found to be prohibited from buying
that spray, it was four earlier in the week.

Speaker 3 (00:44):
What's it at now it's doubled is now eight, and
we've dealt with six of them.

Speaker 2 (00:49):
So the term of following up the other two this morning.

Speaker 1 (00:51):
So when you say dealt with six of them, does
that mean that you've been like, have you been around
to their house? She gone and said, hey, we need
that canister back because you're not actually eligible to have it.

Speaker 3 (01:00):
Exactly right, CODYE and then the members will then look
at the circumstances of the purchase. And two of those
people thus far have received notices to appear in relation
to possessing a prohibited weapon, and there's been a couple
of cautions, and I think the other two are still

(01:21):
under review as to but you can still receive a
notice to appear in court in relation to I mean,
possessing a prohibited weapon, quite a serious charge.

Speaker 1 (01:30):
So six of them have now handed that back in.
What about the other two?

Speaker 2 (01:35):
So the other two have been chased up this morning
by the team.

Speaker 1 (01:37):
Right, and generally with those six people, have they been
fairly compliant in terms of then handing it back in?

Speaker 2 (01:44):
They've been pretty good.

Speaker 3 (01:45):
They know they shouldn't possess it in the first place
due to their criminal history, so they haven't been honest
on the declaration. Unfortunately, we're not doing it real time,
but we're not far behind. And as soon as we
get that red flag, you know this person there's prior
convictions that are relevant to purchasing the OC spray and

(02:05):
possessing the prohibited weapon.

Speaker 2 (02:07):
Yeah, we go straight out and grab them.

Speaker 1 (02:09):
Are you able to tell us why they weren't eligible.

Speaker 2 (02:12):
It's got to do with their prior criminal history, right,
So if.

Speaker 1 (02:15):
You've got a prior criminal history, obviously there's different reasons,
and I know that most of those are on the
Northern Territory Police website in terms of whether you're eligible
or not. But so they're not eligible, they've still gone
in and tried to purchase it and it's pinged pretty well,
not immediately, but not too long after you reckon, Yeah.

Speaker 2 (02:31):
Not too long after, Codie.

Speaker 3 (02:33):
So I would say the system's working, it's really good,
and you can see, you know, eight people compared to
four hundred and twenty nine, we're talking about a small
minority here in the community that aren't eligible to possess it,
and those type of people shouldn't have.

Speaker 2 (02:49):
It in the first place.

Speaker 1 (02:50):
Do you worry though that it is a situation where
we've always been a bit concerned that the wrong people
could get it in their hands. I mean, does it
sort of demonstrate that they potentially can? I know, the
police are then gone and you know, fronted up to
their house to get it back, but you can do
a bit of damage, I guess in twenty four hours
or so.

Speaker 3 (03:09):
Yeah, you're right, and it is one of the concerns,
but I still say the system's working. You know, there
haven't been any further offenses related to the possession of
the capsic can spray.

Speaker 2 (03:22):
At this stage.

Speaker 1 (03:23):
So do they then get charged.

Speaker 3 (03:25):
Yes, So two have noticed to peers, and that's in
relation to possessing the prohibited weapon because they're not exempt.
There's been two cautions and the other two I think
are under review, so there potentially could be another two
notice is still peer coming for those people.

Speaker 1 (03:44):
So in terms of it, like so by the sounds
of it, it's not being monitored in real time, but
it's been monitored quite soon after. Would that be right?
That's right, Katie you And so how do you do that?
That's like a manual thing.

Speaker 2 (03:56):
I'm guessing, yeah, for sure.

Speaker 3 (03:57):
So we look at the identity provide, did we make
our won checks, We have a look at the declaration
and then from there, you know, the red flags come
up straight away and we see their prior convictions and
we're knocking on their door.

Speaker 1 (04:11):
In terms of like a lot of people have been
asking questions around the strength of the OC spray, My
understanding was that the strength was not sort of as
strong as what the Northern territory police hues when you're
out sort of in a situation where you may have
to make an arrest, where you may have to do
something where that OC spray is required. Is that the case?
I mean, do the strengths vary.

Speaker 3 (04:34):
What I'll say in relation to the strength of it.
When it comes to OC spray, size does matter, and
we have quite large canisters and so we can deploy
you know, O spray into a crowd, demonstrators, that type
of stuff, not just for a personal use type.

Speaker 1 (04:54):
So it's significantly there's significantly more in what you're using. Absolutely,
in terms of when OC spray is deployed. Is it
something that sort of goes out in a straight line?
Is it something that if somebody is deploying it, does
it sort of Is there a risk that it could
blow out? And you reach a number of people when
you talk about that.

Speaker 2 (05:12):
Size, absolutely, Catie.

Speaker 3 (05:13):
So they have a spray, then they have the one
that does go in a straight line that you're talking about.
Then there's a foam as well. These are the straight
line spray. So in terms of if you're using it
outside and there's wind, yeah, other people may get a
secondary dose. I've been around the use of it a

(05:34):
number of times. I've been sprayed a number of times,
and when it has been used in the field and
I've been present, I've always.

Speaker 2 (05:40):
Got a dose.

Speaker 1 (05:41):
Yeah, right, so you've definitely got to be careful no
matter what. Absolutely, Hey, just talking about another issue that
we've had quite a large number of people get in
contact with us about over recent days, but certainly truck
drivers get in contact with us. They've had one, in particular,
a pretty dangerous situation where one of his drivers had

(06:02):
rocks thrown at his vehicle near the Catherine Bridge earlier
this week, shattering that windscreen, sending glass all through the cabin.
Have you, like, have the Northern Territory Police had reports
when it comes to these rocks being thrown first off
in Catherine in recent days.

Speaker 2 (06:20):
Yeah, we have, Katie.

Speaker 3 (06:21):
So over the last two weeks we've had eleven reports
of rock throwing in Catherine and we had four incidents
just on Monday. So really dangerous behavior and maybe it's
the kids they don't appreciate the dangers that they're causing
by throwing the rocks. But there's workouting on there placed

(06:41):
with DCF into their circuit breaker team and the Kolano
Youth Patrol just to engage and educate the kids in
relation to this is really serious behavior and the consequences
can be fatal.

Speaker 1 (06:54):
Some criticism of the police, you know that they were
called and that the police are basically said too busy
to attend in a couple of those situations in Catherine,
and you know, I guess those on the receiving end
of those rocks a little bit worried that. You know,
it's a danger to other people as well.

Speaker 3 (07:10):
Yeah, absolutely, And look it's one of those things if
the police are stuck at a violent domestic or something
more serious. Yeah, unfortunately, we're just not going to get
there at the time of the occurrence of the offense
when the kids are still there.

Speaker 1 (07:26):
But I mean, is it a situation where, like you said,
there just in the last couple of days, there's been
four incidents in Catherine, eleven reports over the last two weeks,
but four of those reports in Catherine just in the
last couple of days. Have they all been in the
Catherine area or have there been some incidents in other
locations too?

Speaker 3 (07:42):
All these ones in the last two weeks KDI are
in Catherine, but you know, in the Northern Territory for
the place, We're not strangers to rock throwing. I know
from Ellie Springs they particularly have targeted buses and taxis
in the past. So yeah, just just really concerning behavior.
I just think some of the kids, some of the
ones that I've seen, are quite young, and I think

(08:04):
there's an education piece.

Speaker 1 (08:06):
Yeah, absolutely, And it's so bloody dangerous. I mean, particularly
for somebody driving a big truck and you've got if
it is a kid throwing rocks at them, big rocks,
and then the potential harm that can be caused as
a result of that. They need to understand that you
could literally take someone's life.

Speaker 3 (08:22):
Absolutely, do a big truck crosses to the wrong side
of the road and you know, a car with mum
and the kids. You know, it's really dangerous behavior. I
just don't think they fully appreciate them.

Speaker 1 (08:33):
No, I don't think so either. Hey, overnight, I understand
that there was a break in down at the Darwin Waterfront.

Speaker 3 (08:41):
Correct Katie's had to be at four to twenty this morning.
There was four young males gained entry to a restaurant
down there, stole a hoop of alcohol and were seen
leaving in a stolen gray Suzuki Swift by Waterfront Security.
So we haven't caught up with them yet, but we have,
you know, good CCTV. We know the vehicle, so it's

(09:02):
any matter of time.

Speaker 1 (09:03):
So did you say four young males four, Yeah, and
so broke into one of the presumably one of the restaurants.
First stole quite a bit of alcohol, that's right, Katie. Yeah,
and then a car, well they already had the car,
already had it, showed up in.

Speaker 3 (09:15):
The stolen car and loaded the alcohol into the stolen
car and left in that car.

Speaker 1 (09:18):
So we know where that car was stolen from.

Speaker 2 (09:22):
Who was stolen from?

Speaker 1 (09:23):
Farrer Yeah, yeah, right, yeah, goodness mate. Again, such a
bloody dangerous situation. You know, I don't know the ages
of these people, but driving around in a stolen car
then you know, rocking up to another location and stealing further,
no doubt guessing trident's probably onto them pretty fast this.

Speaker 2 (09:40):
Morning, right, Cadie, tried, it's all over it.

Speaker 1 (09:42):
I reckon they would be hey. Just in relation to
another couple of unfortunate incidents over recent days, one really
tragic one. On Monday, a forty year old woman died
following a suspected snake bite in Catherine on Monday afternoon,
just after or around one o'clock in the ar in
police receiving reports that that woman had collapsed at a

(10:03):
business on Piers Straight.

Speaker 3 (10:05):
Yeah tragic, Katie, really sad. And the forty year old
lady had been bitten by a snake earlier on. And
now we know, being Australians, we walk around looking down
for snakes because we know if we get tagged by
one it could kill us. But some people are here
from other countries, whether the tourists or whatever, and they

(10:26):
don't appreciate. You know, maybe the place they come from,
the snakes aren't poisonous, so they don't have any. And
I think on this occasion the lady sadly didn't appreciate
what had just occurred and didn't seek medical health.

Speaker 1 (10:39):
Oh no, do we not. Was she a tourist? Do
you know?

Speaker 3 (10:42):
I think she's a worker from another country, hero on
a visa.

Speaker 1 (10:46):
How terrible, how terribly tragic. Unfortunately not the only thing
that police have had to deal with though in recent days.
I know there was actually an assault on police out
at Nunamar over the week on Saturday night.

Speaker 2 (11:01):
In fact, Yeah, that's right.

Speaker 3 (11:03):
Katie was out at the radio and security evicted a
seventeen year old girl from the premises and put her
into the custody of the police. And then another three
people sixteen, seven and eighteen year old then tried to
get her out of our custody and in doing.

Speaker 2 (11:22):
So assaulted the police.

Speaker 3 (11:24):
So we took the We took them all into custody
and the sixteen and seven year old will receive a
summons for.

Speaker 2 (11:31):
The eighteen year old was charged with aggravated assault.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
Goodness, may I mean you really you wonder what goes
through people's heads in those situations, particularly then to wind
up in a you know, where they're assaulting police like,
it's a whole other level.

Speaker 3 (11:44):
Absolutely, and you know they they're under a doing, well
one of them was a doing but you know obviously
alcohol affected and you know, not making sound choices and
find themselves now before the courts.

Speaker 1 (11:56):
Hey, before I let you go. Alice Springs as well,
I understand there was another incident in Alice Springs. What
happened with this one?

Speaker 3 (12:02):
Yeah, So on Monday, Cotie, Monday afternoon, we received reports
of a vehicle that have been stolen in Alice Springs
and we saw two utilities driving radically around. They then
went to another residence where they broke in and threatened
the residence with an edge weapon at a tyryne, and

(12:25):
they stole that person's mobile telephone. Later on, we did
stop one of the vehicles with the stopsticks. However they
drove at the place, vehicle collided head on with it
at a slow speed but caused damage.

Speaker 2 (12:41):
And then while this was going.

Speaker 3 (12:43):
On, the other stolen ute then came over and also
crashed into a police car as well. Sood really really
serious behavior. No injuries or anything, but only due to
the low speeds. But you know, the behavior is just crazy.

Speaker 1 (12:58):
It's appalling, actually, like that's appalling behavior. I mean it's
hard to even wrap your head around that happening.

Speaker 3 (13:07):
Yeah, unfortunately, Katie, we keep seeing it too often, you know,
targeting the police and stolen vehicles crashing into our vehicles
and not only just putting themselves the risk of the
police in the community. So yeah, really concerning behavior.

Speaker 2 (13:23):
We're just not going to put up with it.

Speaker 3 (13:25):
No.

Speaker 1 (13:25):
Well, Assistant Commissioner Peter Maley always appreciate your time. Thank
you very much for joining us in the studio. This morning.
No thanks, Katie, thank you,
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