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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now we know that the No More campaign's been working
across the Northern Territory to end domestic and family violence
for almost twenty years by engaging with men and communities
to create lasting change. Now, historically the focus has been
on sporting clubs, but it is now expanding to get business,
community groups and service providers to take the stand. Now
(00:24):
joining me in the studio is Catholic Care NT's violence
Prevention Manager Norell Gostra. Good morning to you, Norell. Lovely
to have you in the studio, and also Community Champion
NRLNT general manager Tony.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Crow, Good morning, good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Lovely to have you both in the studio and to
hear more about the campaign. Now, I guess for anybody
out there listening, Norell, first off, tell us a little
bit more about No More for anybody who's maybe not
familiar with it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Sure, I feel like if you've lived in the territory
for more than three months, you know you have heard
of No More and our founder Charlie King. So, Charlie
created No More, as you said, around twenty years ago,
and it was working with men in remote communities to
he was talking to them about what the issues were
(01:15):
and they stood up and said no more to violence.
And then he went to another community and those men
there said all the men should link up to say
no more. Charlie was driving back from there and was
thinking about his sport involvement and heavily involved in football,
and said he just went on, we might be able
to get people to line up and link arms to
(01:37):
say no more.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
And that's where it came from.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So we've been doing that for twenty years and we
feel like we've done a great job bringing domestic violence
out from behind closed doors, getting people talking about it.
But no more's more than that, and it's about also
we do a lot of education, teaching people what domestic
family violence is and trying to create community led action.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's just which is what's brought us here today to
talk about the Stand.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, so tell us a little bit more about about
the Stand and you know, to anybody out there listening
that's thinking, oh, is this something I can get involved in.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, it's going to be really easy to get involved.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So the Stand is our new initiative around trying to
get ninety organizations to create domestic violence action plans, and
we've chosen in ninety in ninety days to honor the
more than ninety women that have died in the Northern
Territory due to domestic and family violence. So we're calling.
We've historically had sporting groups like like NRL, DRL involved
(02:38):
and we think that it just should be more than
that every organization could and should do a domestic violence
action plan.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, it is so important that it's you know, it
is something that's out of the shadows that we do
all talk about and have those conversations Tony. For you
leading the NRL here in the Northern Territory as a
general manager, I mean, how important is it do you
you think for organizations like NRL and T to be
involved with No More and indeed the stand.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think it's very important, Cadien. We've enjoyed a very
healthy long term relationship with No More and have enjoyed
our close working relationship. But we are a peak sporting
body for community sport and our key objectives are to
add value to community through rugby league. We're just like
we've got the greatest game for all through rugby league.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
No arguments with me fins.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Up there quickly, but most importantly, as I said, it's
about us and our game adding value to community and
education and awareness. And we've enjoyed our time and what
we continue to do with No More and taking the
stand is critic on now that we do. I think
we've spoken a lot, We've created a lot of awareness
about it. Now it is making a stand enough enough
and we're all going to take a responsibility and hopefully
(03:49):
we bring our community together through Rugby League educate, creating
awareness and you know, taking that stand.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
As I said, I know, a key part of the
initiative is really a aating a domestic and family violence
action plan. I guess to both of you, what does
that entail?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Do you want me to go first on that? Yes,
well you can go.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Look.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I had a you know, once again as part of
our relationship, and it's something I've spoken to No More
about and we were the first peak sporting body to
create a domestic voluntaction plan. And I've said in my
conversations that it feels like it just sits there and
what do we do with it? And we continue to
push messages game day after game day, but it's almost
like it's there behind the glass breaking case of emergency.
(04:34):
We've got it. There ready when we need to. So
I think from that's where we're at. But now it's
about elevating it and taking the next level and the
standards at perfect platform for us.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
All.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, So Norell, I mean, how do people sort of
you know, take that, take it up that next level.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Really, it's really easy to get involved.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You can definitely reach out to us at the at
the No More team or go to our website which
is the stand dot org dot au for this particular
new but creating a domestic violence action plan is whatever
an organization or business or workplace or community group.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
However they might want it to look.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It could be three actions written on a piece of
Butcher's paper in the shed, or it could be a
fully fledged policy. And as Tony was saying, like they
can be used in different ways. So for sporting organizations,
it could be something that you include in there about
how you respond if someone in your organization is either
(05:29):
impacted by violence or using violence, and how you respond
to that. It could have things in it like making
sure that people understand that they can get ten days Egger.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Domestic violence leaf.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, because a lot of people don't know that it's
relatively new and then making sure that they can feel
comfortable accessing it. So there's some really practical policy things.
Then there's the visual awareness, like having a no more
round if you're a sporting organization, or creating a mural
on the side of your wall that says no more violelce.
And then so there's a lot of, as Tony said,
(06:03):
awareness and education, but there's also policy advocacy and things
you can do in an organization to support and change.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And I guess so often you see the issue of
domestic violence sort of you know, in the shadows, people
not wanting to talk about it. But I think if
you were and I could be very wrong, but I
think if you're a victim of domestic violence and you're
working at an organization or a workplace where you felt
as though it was safe to go and talk to
your boss without any judgment, to be able to get
(06:32):
you know, some leave and potentially get some support, because
I think that very often you know people are suffering
from domestic violence and you may not even know, and
if all of a sudden then you feel like you're
working somewhere where you can actually go and talk to
someone about it and not be judged, you know, not
be worried if you need that time off. Surely that
(06:55):
would take just a tiny bit of that weight off
your shoulders.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Absolutely, And I think you touched on there's sometimes that
people don't even know that they're in a relationship where
there is domestic violence because historically people have always seen
domestic family violence as being physical being you know, slapping, hitting,
all of those things. But there's so much more to it,
you know, the financial abuse as sexual abuse, social isolation
(07:19):
like just stopping you from seeing your friends and family,
controlling the money in the house, a lot of those things.
People wouldn't even realize that it is actually what we
called abuse.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And then Tony, I mean when you when you think
about that, and and for you, you know, as a boss,
how important do you think it is that that staff,
that people within your organization know that it you know,
there is there is a safe place to go in
terms of being the kind of person that you know
your door's open and there's no judgement.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, I think and I don't like particularly the word boss,
but leader, And I think most importantly we do all
need to talk more often, be open and express ourselves.
And you know, sometimes I think most importantly, show some
emotion and compassion for each other being there, and I
think that's what I keep talking about. Sport brings people together.
(08:12):
When we come together, it's important that we open up
and support each other, share with each other some challenges
that we're dealing with because we can all work through
them together.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah. Now, where can people go if they're listening this
morning and they want to find out more.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So to our website which is no more dot org
dot au or the stand dot org dot au.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And I'm probably throwing there as well.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
If anybody is actually impacted listening impacted by domestic and
family violence, to call one eight hundred Respect, which is
a really great twenty four hour support line.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
It's really easy to get involved.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
We're launching on Thursday, the seventh of August, and we're
going hard for ninety days to try to get ninety
organizations on board.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
We're doing all right so far.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
We've been promoting it a little bit and we've got
you know, I think as we might be already be
up to ten, so hoping that by Thursday, yeah, we'll
be able to really you know, and hopefully we break
the ninety you know.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I reckon you will Yeah, I reckon you will well.
Catholic Anti Violence Prevention Manager Norell Gostray, thank you so
much for your time and community Champion. Nrl NT General
Manager Tony Crow, thank you for your time. Wonderful to
have you both in the studio
Now we know that the No More campaign's been working
across the Northern Territory to end domestic and family violence
for almost twenty years by engaging with men and communities
to create lasting change. Now, historically the focus has been
on sporting clubs, but it is now expanding to get business,
community groups and service providers to take the stand. Now
(00:24):
joining me in the studio is Catholic Care NT's violence
Prevention Manager Norell Gostra. Good morning to you, Norell. Lovely
to have you in the studio, and also Community Champion
NRLNT general manager Tony.
Speaker 2 (00:40):
Crow, Good morning, good morning Katie.
Speaker 1 (00:42):
Lovely to have you both in the studio and to
hear more about the campaign. Now, I guess for anybody
out there listening, Norell, first off, tell us a little
bit more about No More for anybody who's maybe not
familiar with it.
Speaker 3 (00:54):
Sure, I feel like if you've lived in the territory
for more than three months, you know you have heard
of No More and our founder Charlie King. So, Charlie
created No More, as you said, around twenty years ago,
and it was working with men in remote communities to
he was talking to them about what the issues were
(01:15):
and they stood up and said no more to violence.
And then he went to another community and those men
there said all the men should link up to say
no more. Charlie was driving back from there and was
thinking about his sport involvement and heavily involved in football,
and said he just went on, we might be able
to get people to line up and link arms to
(01:37):
say no more.
Speaker 4 (01:38):
And that's where it came from.
Speaker 3 (01:40):
So we've been doing that for twenty years and we
feel like we've done a great job bringing domestic violence
out from behind closed doors, getting people talking about it.
But no more's more than that, and it's about also
we do a lot of education, teaching people what domestic
family violence is and trying to create community led action.
Speaker 4 (01:59):
It's just which is what's brought us here today to
talk about the Stand.
Speaker 1 (02:02):
Yeah, so tell us a little bit more about about
the Stand and you know, to anybody out there listening
that's thinking, oh, is this something I can get involved in.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
Yeah, it's going to be really easy to get involved.
Speaker 3 (02:14):
So the Stand is our new initiative around trying to
get ninety organizations to create domestic violence action plans, and
we've chosen in ninety in ninety days to honor the
more than ninety women that have died in the Northern
Territory due to domestic and family violence. So we're calling.
We've historically had sporting groups like like NRL, DRL involved
(02:38):
and we think that it just should be more than
that every organization could and should do a domestic violence
action plan.
Speaker 1 (02:45):
Well, it is so important that it's you know, it
is something that's out of the shadows that we do
all talk about and have those conversations Tony. For you
leading the NRL here in the Northern Territory as a
general manager, I mean, how important is it do you
you think for organizations like NRL and T to be
involved with No More and indeed the stand.
Speaker 2 (03:07):
I think it's very important, Cadien. We've enjoyed a very
healthy long term relationship with No More and have enjoyed
our close working relationship. But we are a peak sporting
body for community sport and our key objectives are to
add value to community through rugby league. We're just like
we've got the greatest game for all through rugby league.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
No arguments with me fins.
Speaker 2 (03:26):
Up there quickly, but most importantly, as I said, it's
about us and our game adding value to community and
education and awareness. And we've enjoyed our time and what
we continue to do with No More and taking the
stand is critic on now that we do. I think
we've spoken a lot, We've created a lot of awareness
about it. Now it is making a stand enough enough
and we're all going to take a responsibility and hopefully
(03:49):
we bring our community together through Rugby League educate, creating
awareness and you know, taking that stand.
Speaker 1 (03:56):
As I said, I know, a key part of the
initiative is really a aating a domestic and family violence
action plan. I guess to both of you, what does
that entail?
Speaker 4 (04:07):
Do you want me to go first on that? Yes,
well you can go.
Speaker 3 (04:10):
Look.
Speaker 2 (04:10):
I had a you know, once again as part of
our relationship, and it's something I've spoken to No More
about and we were the first peak sporting body to
create a domestic voluntaction plan. And I've said in my
conversations that it feels like it just sits there and
what do we do with it? And we continue to
push messages game day after game day, but it's almost
like it's there behind the glass breaking case of emergency.
(04:34):
We've got it. There ready when we need to. So
I think from that's where we're at. But now it's
about elevating it and taking the next level and the
standards at perfect platform for us.
Speaker 3 (04:43):
All.
Speaker 1 (04:44):
Yeah, So Norell, I mean, how do people sort of
you know, take that, take it up that next level.
Speaker 3 (04:49):
Yeah.
Speaker 4 (04:50):
Really, it's really easy to get involved.
Speaker 3 (04:52):
You can definitely reach out to us at the at
the No More team or go to our website which
is the stand dot org dot au for this particular
new but creating a domestic violence action plan is whatever
an organization or business or workplace or community group.
Speaker 4 (05:07):
However they might want it to look.
Speaker 3 (05:08):
It could be three actions written on a piece of
Butcher's paper in the shed, or it could be a
fully fledged policy. And as Tony was saying, like they
can be used in different ways. So for sporting organizations,
it could be something that you include in there about
how you respond if someone in your organization is either
(05:29):
impacted by violence or using violence, and how you respond
to that. It could have things in it like making
sure that people understand that they can get ten days Egger.
Speaker 4 (05:39):
Domestic violence leaf.
Speaker 3 (05:42):
Yeah, because a lot of people don't know that it's
relatively new and then making sure that they can feel
comfortable accessing it. So there's some really practical policy things.
Then there's the visual awareness, like having a no more
round if you're a sporting organization, or creating a mural
on the side of your wall that says no more violelce.
And then so there's a lot of, as Tony said,
(06:03):
awareness and education, but there's also policy advocacy and things
you can do in an organization to support and change.
Speaker 1 (06:11):
And I guess so often you see the issue of
domestic violence sort of you know, in the shadows, people
not wanting to talk about it. But I think if
you were and I could be very wrong, but I
think if you're a victim of domestic violence and you're
working at an organization or a workplace where you felt
as though it was safe to go and talk to
your boss without any judgment, to be able to get
(06:32):
you know, some leave and potentially get some support, because
I think that very often you know people are suffering
from domestic violence and you may not even know, and
if all of a sudden then you feel like you're
working somewhere where you can actually go and talk to
someone about it and not be judged, you know, not
be worried if you need that time off. Surely that
(06:55):
would take just a tiny bit of that weight off
your shoulders.
Speaker 3 (06:58):
Absolutely, And I think you touched on there's sometimes that
people don't even know that they're in a relationship where
there is domestic violence because historically people have always seen
domestic family violence as being physical being you know, slapping, hitting,
all of those things. But there's so much more to it,
you know, the financial abuse as sexual abuse, social isolation
(07:19):
like just stopping you from seeing your friends and family,
controlling the money in the house, a lot of those things.
People wouldn't even realize that it is actually what we
called abuse.
Speaker 1 (07:30):
And then Tony, I mean when you when you think
about that, and and for you, you know, as a boss,
how important do you think it is that that staff,
that people within your organization know that it you know,
there is there is a safe place to go in
terms of being the kind of person that you know
your door's open and there's no judgement.
Speaker 2 (07:50):
Yeah, I think and I don't like particularly the word boss,
but leader, And I think most importantly we do all
need to talk more often, be open and express ourselves.
And you know, sometimes I think most importantly, show some
emotion and compassion for each other being there, and I
think that's what I keep talking about. Sport brings people together.
(08:12):
When we come together, it's important that we open up
and support each other, share with each other some challenges
that we're dealing with because we can all work through
them together.
Speaker 1 (08:22):
Yeah. Now, where can people go if they're listening this
morning and they want to find out more.
Speaker 3 (08:26):
So to our website which is no more dot org
dot au or the stand dot org dot au.
Speaker 4 (08:32):
And I'm probably throwing there as well.
Speaker 3 (08:34):
If anybody is actually impacted listening impacted by domestic and
family violence, to call one eight hundred Respect, which is
a really great twenty four hour support line.
Speaker 4 (08:43):
It's really easy to get involved.
Speaker 3 (08:45):
We're launching on Thursday, the seventh of August, and we're
going hard for ninety days to try to get ninety
organizations on board.
Speaker 4 (08:54):
We're doing all right so far.
Speaker 3 (08:55):
We've been promoting it a little bit and we've got
you know, I think as we might be already be
up to ten, so hoping that by Thursday, yeah, we'll
be able to really you know, and hopefully we break
the ninety you know.
Speaker 1 (09:08):
I reckon you will Yeah, I reckon you will well.
Catholic Anti Violence Prevention Manager Norell Gostray, thank you so
much for your time and community Champion. Nrl NT General
Manager Tony Crow, thank you for your time. Wonderful to
have you both in the studio
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