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Speaker 1 (00:00):
Now joining me live in the studio is the Deputy
Chief Minister and also Minister for Corrections and various other portfolios.
Jared Maylee, good morning to you.

Speaker 2 (00:08):
Good morning Katie, and good morning listeners.

Speaker 1 (00:10):
Now, Deputy Chief Minister, firstly, what was your reaction to
the federal election on the weekend. I mean it was
a bit of a thrashing for the coalition.

Speaker 2 (00:18):
Yeah, certainly, very disappointing from my behalf, and a big
shout out to all the candidates who didn't make a
considering for the salp the two leases. I know they
did a power of work and worked really hard, but
they didn't get across the line. It's unfortunate and we're
looking forward to working with the new government. Doesn't matter
who it is could we want to fight for what's
best for the Northern territory.

Speaker 1 (00:36):
Now tell me, I mean there's no doubt there's going
to be a bit of soul searching. I think from
the coalition's perspective, what message do you think Ozzie's was
sort of trying to send to the conservative side of
politics in Australia. And do you think that there's any
lessons that need to be learned from this for the COLP.

Speaker 2 (00:54):
Well, look, I think the big lesson is you need
to listen to the community and you need to run
what the community wants. You might sit up here in
Parliament health matter where you are in Australia across the
world and think you know it all, but I think
the message is that you don't. You need to get
back into the community. You need to listen to people,
you need to go out to community events, you need
to go for me, into Fred's past and just talk
to people about what their concerns are. And I think

(01:16):
get back to that really grassroots basic what do you
want If people look after their family, they want to
make sure that they've got a job, they've got somewhere
to live. So we need to really focus on the
community wants and needs and just bring it back to
the basics, I think, Katie.

Speaker 1 (01:29):
Well, and look, one of those basics for us here
in the Northern Territory is making sure that the community
is safe. Now we know the Northern Territory governments set
to announce this morning that you're going to be allocating
four hundred and ninety five million dollars directly to corrections
in the twenty five twenty six budget. There's also going
to be additional funding held in contingency to be drawn

(01:53):
down to address corrections, demand pressures as required. What is
this budget allocation actually going to meet in a practical
sense when we look at our over full jails at
the moment.

Speaker 2 (02:05):
So look in a practical sense, Okatie. What this is
going to do is make sure that we can provide
a prison system that works and is functional across the
Northern Territory, not only for keeping prisoners off the streets,
but also for the prison officers and the people who
work in the correction system to make sure that they
can go to work, that their systems work and they've
got enough staff. We know that over the last eight years,

(02:26):
the previous labor government neglected the prison system, which put
us into watchhouses and staff shortages and all sorts of issues.
We've been in office for about eight or nine months,
so we're starting to unwind that and effectively we've built
a new prison, we've commissioned to bear them back online.
We've got holts up and raining, we've got alice springs going.
But the job is only just started, Kadie, and there's

(02:46):
a lot more to do and that's why we've got
this record budget of four hundred and ninety five million
dollars because the Labor government failed to invest in it.
We're doing that. We're putting the money into the system
to keep the prisoners safe, to keep the correction safe,
and more importantly, to keep the community safe.

Speaker 1 (03:01):
Now, I want to know what's new in this funding,
because there's eighty million dollars in the twenty five twenty
six and then one hundred and twenty million ongoing for
twenty six twenty seven to address the rising prisoner numbers
through additional staffing and the operational capacity including expanding health services.
So about forty million from the look of it this

(03:22):
coming financial year, going up to fifty the following in
contingency to be drawn down on those corrections pressures as needed.
So what like, how much is new?

Speaker 2 (03:34):
Okay? So effectively, Katie, we've got about one hundred and
twenty six million dollars which is new funding from out
of that, roughly there's about thirty four to thirty five
million dollars off of cliff funding, which where we're finding
across right across the board, the Labor government would put
programs in place. It's funded for one year and it
prom going to be a three year program, so about
thirty four to thirty five million dollars keep those programs

(03:56):
up and running, which is community corrections, operational and all
that sort of stuff to make sure that the prison
system keeps working. Fifty million dollars off new money, and
again out of that and other twenty six million dollars
for operations. We know we've got increasing prison numbers of
about six hundred, so that's increasing the budgy to be

(04:16):
able to make sure that we got the money to
handle the extra prisoners that we've already put into prison,
and also the ones are coming because we do know
that we've passed them tough as bail laws into previous week,
fixing this week.

Speaker 1 (04:27):
And those numbers continue to rise since, so that all
kicks in those changes from last week kicking this week,
are we expecting to see an increase immediately?

Speaker 2 (04:37):
Well, the laws will change, and the courts and the
police will interpret the laws and will they have to
process prisoners as per the laws, which on my understanding
is that tomorrow is going to be assented to and
it kicks off. The commencement data is tomorrow. So if
you get arrested as the next day you will be
under the new bail laws.

Speaker 1 (04:56):
Now, I just want to go through some of these fundings.
So by the look of about forty million dollars this
coming financial year, then fifty the following financial year in
contingency as I said, to draw down corrections pressures as needed.
Six million dollars is ongoing for additional electronic monitoring capacity.

(05:17):
Then there's a further four point two million allocated for
domestic and family violence programs. Now, in terms of the
rehab stuff that's going on within the jails, I think
this is a really important thing. And in terms of
the programs, we all understand that you know that the
community needs to be safe in terms if you don't
want violent offenders out on the streets, but what work

(05:40):
are they doing when they are then, you know, behind
the wire to try and become better people. And do
we have enough in terms of programs operating so that
we don't have recidivist defenders you know they're not coming
out and then committing further crimes.

Speaker 2 (05:53):
Yes, Katie. Look, there is a range of programs which
are running in the prison and for example, you can
get a certificate one and reads Retail Services Certificate, to
in Retail Services Certificate on Agriculture Certificate to in Horticulture
Support and rec programs. There's a whole list of programs
which are running. And there's industry as well, which is
the welding and the woods would shop and also in

(06:15):
our springs that make the number plates for all the
cars in the Northern Territory. And so they are the
programs the test and tag, the white cards, trying to
get people drivers' licenses, to try and make sure that
you come out of prison a better person, because it's
about breaking the cycle of reoffending and we're going to
give a prison an opportunity to go in and come
out a better person. There's a whole range of site

(06:35):
programs available as well, which is a rehabilitation which is
the Rage program yep. There's psychological programs, addictive behavior program
sex offender programs, behavior change programs. All that's in the
up and running, and that's what this money is for
to make sure that those programs continue to operate and
expand their numbers because we know that we need to

(06:57):
make sure that we break our cycle. Because what the
CLP is committed to is keeping the community safe and
that's what we.

Speaker 1 (07:03):
Want to do now in terms of On Friday, the
government also announced record spending on law and order in
the twenty five twenty six Northern Territory budget which is
being handed down next week. So is this is the
money that you're announcing this morning on top of that?
Is it? So? On Friday there was the government had
said that there's going to be records spending on law

(07:23):
and order. So that was the total budget for police
corrections and the Attorney General's Department will be one point
three to four billion, which is one hundred and twelve
million more than in the last budget. So is that
sort of the same pool of pole the money?

Speaker 2 (07:36):
It's about keeping the community safe. And unlike the previous
Labor government where they just focused on the police, where
they forgot about the court system, they forgot about the
correctional system, we're making sure that all those programs systems
go up and running because they all go hand in hand.

Speaker 1 (07:49):
Well, look, and I think you know the thing is
we're sort of reaching a point as well. I know
we're not a full year in of the CLP being
in government, but I think people are reaching the point
where they're like you know, yep, we all understand his
but we want to make sure you guys are doing
what we want you to do, to hold offenders to account,
to make sure they're being rehabilitated when they're in jail,
and to make sure that money is being invested in

(08:09):
the right areas that's correct.

Speaker 2 (08:11):
And that's why we're putting that four hundred and ninety
five million dollars into corrections extra one hundred and twenty
six million dollars, which is our new money. We need
to make sure that the operations off corrections and community
corections keep going. We know there's going to be more
electronic monitoring. We know that the parole people, we know
that community Corrections is out there, and we need to
make sure that the programs available, that the people who
work there, who do a great job, have got the

(08:33):
money to be able to continue to work with and
keep them community.

Speaker 1 (08:36):
A review of the way in which that electronic monitoring
is working or are you satisfied that it is working
in the way that it needs to.

Speaker 2 (08:43):
Well, look, we are reviewing it at all the time,
and what we are looking at the moment is making
sure that the police have real time access to the
electronic monitoring, and we're just going through the legislation to
make sure to give them that so they can be
able to type in and go where is Little Johnny
right now? So they can make sure that they've got
some better access.

Speaker 1 (09:01):
To the legislation that needs to change with that.

Speaker 2 (09:03):
There's some Surveillance Act legislation. I understand these, and also
just some internal policies to make it smoother and get
rid of some of those roadblocks. We're looking at that
as well.

Speaker 1 (09:11):
Because so how quickly do you reckon that could happen?

Speaker 2 (09:13):
Well, we've got people working on at right now and
I think it happened with me quickly, Katie. Because there
are going to be some ligius of changes, but they
are going to be just policy and roadblocks can remove
to make it better, to make it more functional, so
the police have real time access to be able to
see where people are on electronic monitoring now.

Speaker 1 (09:30):
I know on Friday, the ABC was reporting the other
Northern Territory governments having to spend four hundred and sixty
thousand dollars on repairing damage at the Allie Springs jail.
What's caused that damage? For which I thought it was
for the ALLO Springs jail, so I thought they were
actually going to be fixing the watch towers or the towers.

Speaker 2 (09:51):
I thought, well, look, I know that the Aloe Springs
have just brought on a ninety six bed module facility,
which was a pretty late and delayed and over budget
from the previous government. I've been to the Alice Springs
prison multiple times. So the only work that I can
still be done out there is the new modular facility,
which is ninety six beds. There's a new courtyard, there's

(10:11):
a new exercise area, and new post for the correction officers.

Speaker 1 (10:15):
So no additional work following on from you know, from
those riots or anything that we've seen, any of that
damage that had been caused by prisoners sort of well
it was actually last year or the year before even
potentially or has that all been fixed up now?

Speaker 2 (10:29):
Look, Katie, I don't want to mislead you. I don't
want to give you the wrong information. I just simply
don't know that that's all right.

Speaker 1 (10:34):
We can follow it up right now.

Speaker 2 (10:37):
I know that I've been to all the correction facilities
and they are short staffed. We need to make sure
that we get that funding happening and that's what we're doing.
Four hundred and ninety five million dollars one hundred and
twenty six million dollars of new funding. Twenty million of
that is going to be the health four point one
million dollars is for family violence programs. We need to
make sure with these increasing prison numbers numbers that the

(11:00):
is and operates, and we need to get the operational
costs are going to go because we know it's expensive.

Speaker 1 (11:04):
A listener question that came in last week health services
for youth in detention? Has Danilla Dilbert pulled out? And
who's now delivering those health services.

Speaker 2 (11:13):
If they are have pulled out and are Look, I
don't want to again this lee, but I know that
they've got a program in place in relation to that,
so those children aren't missing out on health services. Again,
I don't know that.

Speaker 1 (11:25):
Any idea why Danilla Dilba pulled out of that service.

Speaker 2 (11:29):
No, I don't, and I understand that Chriestans we're trying
to work out get to the bottom of that. But
I don't know the answer to that.

Speaker 1 (11:34):
A bit of a planning question for you, because I
know there's been a lot of discussion about this last
week with the Nunamar Ridge development. Somebody had been in
contact with us and had asked, Hi, Katie. We bought
our property in Virginia back in two thousand and two
with the understanding Woddell would be developed in the near future.
That has not happened, and Virginia Road is incredibly busy

(11:55):
to the extent that friends of ours can't walk their
dog on the road. My husband won't let me ride
my pushbike on Virginia Road, and the kids and walkers
are not safe on that road. Wdell needs to be
the next rural development done. Can you please find out
why that is not the next on the list?

Speaker 2 (12:13):
Well, Woddell is a very expensive episode, and ultimately, with
our eleven billion dollars worth of budget that left us
from the previous government, we've got to make sure we
prioritize taxpayer money. And Widell would be a lovely new
facility into the future. But right now, it's about community safety,
it's about rubuni economy and restoring our lifestyle.

Speaker 1 (12:35):
Now I've got one just a moment ago. This isn't
necessarily for you, but I guess it's the Deputy Chief Minister.
It's a good one to ask. Now this person is saying,
can you please ask why nothing's improved the bus travel,
drinking alcohol, yelling, fighting, it's all the norm on the buses,
and the inspectors do not travel on them. They're actually
helping the drunks get on that one from David Humpty doo.

(12:58):
I know it's not your portfolio.

Speaker 2 (13:00):
Look, I know I have been speaking to Bill Yan,
who's a treason also the minister of that, and they
are looking at the whole bus service in general. And
my understanding is they're looking at reviewing it so there
are give me no interchanges to make it safer, because
we've heard loud and clear that the are buses and
the interchanges there where lots of trouble gets caused. So
I know that we're working on that, and I can't

(13:20):
give you exactly where it's that in relation to it,
but I do know that Minister Yan has been working
hard on that with his department to make sure that
it is safe to be able to ride a public
bus in the Northern Territory and that includes the bus
interchanges in the world to get rid of that problem
happens in those areas.

Speaker 1 (13:34):
But it is something that we've spoken to Bill about
so we might try and getting back on the show.
Jared Mailey Minister full corrections also Deputy Chief Minister. Will
leave it there for now. Thank you very much for
your time this morning.

Speaker 2 (13:44):
Thank you
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