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Speaker 1 (00:00):
We know that a brief of evidence has been handed
to prosecutors to determine whether the charges should be laid
against any NTI police officers over the death of a
twenty four year old man at a Cole's supermarket in
Alice Springs. Now, as we know, the Woolbury man died
in May after being restrained by two officers following a
confrontation with security guards who allegedly caught him stealing. The
(00:21):
Acting Police Commissioner, Martin Dole, provided that update to the
media on Monday, but wasn't available to come on the
show today. Joining me though, in the studio is the
Darwin Commander David Moore. Good morning to.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You, morning, Katy, and to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Good to have you on the show. Now. I understand
Commander that police have now received that final autopsy report,
which is part of the brief of evidence. What's the
process from here?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, So what I can say, Katie is that the
autopsy report has been completed. As you've highlighted, we are
aware that the funeral actually did take place last Friday
for mister White, and obviously we're working quite closely with
the family in relation to this. That brief of evidence
that's now sitting with the DPP, and that's to obviously
look at the way of evidence as to whether the
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actions were lawful or unlawful. I really cannot say too
much more than that, because obviously I'm really invested in
the fair process in relation to this. I don't really
know what the I've not seen that brief myself, so
I probably can't make comment on it. However, I think
that's probably the best avenue here and till the determination's made,
and I'm hoping it's sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
But so essentially it is now up to the DPP
to determine whether charges are laid or not.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's right, and I'm pretty confident as a result of that,
then there'll be some media in relation to it as
to which direction the NT Police will now take as
a result of that opinion that's come back.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, we know that family of Kumanjai White believe
the process has taken too long and continue to call
for answers. What's your message to them or to anybody
that feels as though this has taken too long?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, look for me, a lot of this will fell
obviously on My understanding is on the autopsy, waiting for
that and what the actual findings of.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Death were and what that would say.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Again, like I said, I have not seen that report
or the autopsis, or I can't make common up to
the family itself. I appreciate that this may have been
quite lengthy in relation to at least getting it to
the DPP.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I honestly would like to say that to the family.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Obviously we work quite heavily. We're quite concerned.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Nevertheless, more importantly, sometimes these processes need to be looked
at properly and thoroughly so there is adequate information and
correct information that's relied upon us to whether the charges
or no charges are laid.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We're certainly in communication with the family daily.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I understand based on what the commission are. The acting
Commissioner had said at that press conference earlier in the
week that the Assistant Commissioner, Michael White, as well as
the executive director of Cultural Reformly and Little, they both
meet with the twenty four year olds family in New
and Demou on Friday last week. Was that to sort
of update the family on where things are at. Do
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you know?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, My understanding was that was part of the communication
as well, plus other things again.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, that was definitely communicated as to where it was that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Obviously, no findings have been made at this stage, but
the family will certainly be one of the first to
be informed.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, I do know that you are not you know,
you're certainly not in charge of this investigation. But do
we know if those officers involved are still undertaking duties?
Have they been stood down? Where are things at?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
From that perspective, my understanding is that they're actually off
duty at the moment, but they're with pay waiting for
these outcomes.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, well, we will keep it very close on things.
I know that. I'm sure when there is an update
from the DPP we will all hear about that. I
want to ask you though, about this other situation that
unfolded over the weekend. We've been speaking about it a
little more this morning. This sixteen year old boy is
now before the courts after blasting two security guards with
OC spray upon being refused entry to a Darwin nightclub.
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Do you know what he's been charged with? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, I do, Katie, And what I do know, and
what I can say is that we did arrest a
youth in relation to an aggravated assault and that was
again as you highlighted, early on Sunday morning, Curd about
one am, we actually received a report that the sixteen
year old we actually refuse entry to a nightclub in
the CBD. He allegedly then sprayed two security guards with
the OC spray, striking one guard to the forehead and
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the other to the back. Both guards did not feel
any effects as required, which is really good for medical treatment.
He was arrested very shortly after. He has been charged
with two assault worker and one possessed using a prohibited weapon.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
He is remanded until Monday to appear in court.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What I want to make very clear here that is
on when that was heavily looked at when this occurred,
is that the OC spray was seized by the officers
and it's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Not found to be part of the OC spray trial.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So it's not like he was purchased it, sold it,
or obtained it. We believe at this stage, and that's
still being investigated, is unlawfully obtained. It can be purchased
over the Internet, and so that can be done through
the obviously through different Internet sites, etc.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So we believe that that's.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Where that mayor possibly as a lead up investigation for us.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
But there's not attached as a sold OC spray through
the oceans, and so that's.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
How you're able to work it out that it's actually
like I don't know whether it's a brand or a
type that's sold here in the Northern Territory. So he's
obtained it in some other ways, correct, So police sort
of trying to ascertain exactly how he's then obtained it
so we can I guess avoid other people doing the
same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, and that's part of the inquiries, and that'll come
through either a part of our investigation, whether it's communicated
through himself to police, whether that's part of our follow up,
and what we see with social media, anything that he
might be in possession of.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Anyone that might have any information may be also contact
the police.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
All I can say too, card is obviously going back
while we're on the topic of the OC spray, if
I may, I do have some latest statistics in relation.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
To the trial, which is quite successful, love to hear it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So all I can say that it's been a total
of fifteen persons identified as prohibited as carrying it prohibited,
so that's unlawfully. But what I do say is twenty
three of those cannisters have been seized. Over ninety eight
percent of people purchasing the espray are actually eligible to
have it so lawfully they can althy obtain which is
a really good statistic. So it's only that two percent
at the moment that we're dealing with. There's no matters
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that are outstanding as far as the sprays that have
been received or retrieved. So basically it's going really really well.
We're not getting a lot of offenses as a result
of it. And as I said, ninety eight percent of
those that have purchased it have done it lawfully and
are doing it abidingly.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So tell me in terms of the fifteen that have
then obtained it, you know, like in a way that
they're not supposed to. They're prohibited from purchasing it. What happens? Now,
how do you get that back? How do you make sure,
like have they been charged?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
What happened so that they will in those cases there
will be seized, they will be charged in relation to
a lot of them will obviously get notices to appear
before the court for actually carrying a prohibited weapon, which
is quite clear under the legislation, people are made aware
of that as well when they purchase it as to
where they're supposed to obtain it, how they're supposed to
use it. It's not to be in the hands of
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others that can lawfully unlawfully, I should say.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Obtain that sort of stuff. We don't want to and
the reason for that is we do not want to
see incidents.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Low I've just reported it on, which has no correlation.
But nevertheless, the amount of spray that's in the community,
there has to be some tight governance around it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Absolutely, And I know, like I you know obviously that
ninety eight percent of people purchasing it are eligible to
purchase it. That's a great stat but then you're still
got two percent that are getting their hands on it
that shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, And unfortunately, with these things, you're always going to.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And I hate reporting on that, You're always going to
have a.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Very small minority that is going to want to use
it for other purposes or feel that they are a
bit of a cowboy and go and do what they
want to do with it.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
And that's where we come down.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yep. Hey, I'm also over the course of the weekend,
and I know that this was a few days ago now,
but on Friday there were charges late after the Northern
Territory Police. Well, there was a vehicle that was stolen
and then it was crashed in Darwin City late on
Thursday night. I believe it was five youths allegedly involved
in this theft of the vehicle from an apartment complex
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in the CBD. They ran the gate then fled the scene. Thirteen,
fourteen and fifteen. Three of those youthes they were in
a pursuit. Then then there were two other youths aged
twelve and fifteen allegedly involved in the vehicle theft, but
they were not in the crash. I mean, this is
concerning stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, it is. It's quite a serious incident.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
What we do know is that we've actually charged five
years following that vehicle theft which did crash in dar
And City overnight. The five years allegedly were involved in
the theft of the vehicle from an apartment complex in
the dar And CBDY. As you started, they did ran
the gate and they fled the scene. About thirty minutes later.
Three of the years and as you started, thirteen fourteen
and fifteen were involved in a police pursuit.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So we had police.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Lights and sirens trying to apprehend the vehicle. Two other
us as you started, twelve and fifteen, were allegedly involved
in the vehicle theft, but were not actually in the
crash or the vehicle at that time.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So I just want to separate.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That earlier today, earlier that day. The next day, strike
was tried in itself. They located and remained the offenders.
The thirteen year old male who police will allege was
driving at the time of the crash, is currently at
the watchhouse. Has been charged with three counts of indiager life,
aggravated drive, ride news motive, vehicle that consent driving a
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man of dangerous driver license, and damaged property.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Were any of them? Were any of them on bail?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Not that I'm aware of, Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
What I can say though, And it's really interesting because
the pursuit itself, it was determined around forty seconds prior
to the accident that they were going to determinated the pursuit.
It was getting quite dangerous because it was in the
CBD area, it was obviously heavily populated other traffic users.
They terminated and it was four seconds later after that
termination after we looked at the recordings that the crash occurred,
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and quite very very fortunate there was no loss of
life on no serious injury to anybody including the passage.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Absolutely, But you think to yourself, you've got bloody you know,
kids this young behind the wheel of a car they
should not be and a stolen vehicle, like it's just
it is frightening stuff. It's frightening for a whole raft
of reasons. But I just think they're putting themselves in danger,
They're putting everybody else on the road in danger, They're
putting the police in danger. It should not be happening.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
No, and those types of instants, and we see a
lot of it. But you know, and I think I've
been on here many of times. I've reported stolen cars
in crime series, particularly out of the West Daari region
and stuff. Yeah, those matters become quite dangerous. Tried and
have some great techniques with other methods that they use
to stop these vehicles as quick.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
As they can.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Nevertheless, every situation is heavily.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Risk managed has to be because obviously lives are at
risk here.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, and it's sort of that time of the year,
I guess when the school holidays kick off that everybody
does worry that we're going to see a little bit
of increased crime or some increased incidents. I understand that
there's going to be a special operation kicking off in
Palmerston over the coming days. What sort of sparked this?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, so, Katie, I've been heavily involved in this myself
over citing this operation. So what I can say is
that we do have a social order operation that'll be really.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Targeting the Palmerston region.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
What sort of sparked it was we were starting to
see some spikes in crime and different in different areas
such as alcohol, field, any social behavior. We were getting
a number of complaints as well from shop owners. So
what will happen is as of today, it's commenced as
of this morning at nine o'clock this morning. It will
run until Saturday, Saturday evening. It'll be heavily populated and
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saturated with police officers. So all of my three divisions
been Caasarin to Palmerston and Darwin will be participating in it.
I also have also the Territory Safety Division and the
Territory Support Division also providing not only members but mounted police.
We'll have the e bikes as well that'll be around there.
We'll be obviously in high viz. We also had the
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support and I want to give a big thank you
to some other agencies that are really assisting us in this.
So we have also the Public Order Response Unit NTE
Life that's seeing the city of Palmston itself and palms
are Public Housing Safety Office.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And Larache Nation. They'll all be a part of this.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And the whole idea of this is obviously is too
we all know, if we can stop the alcohol at
an early stage in the morning, it then shows up
later on an evening or a night where the alcohol
fueled violence and domestic violence are decreasing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So this is the reason, yeah, and absolutely a good
thing to do. I mean, we quite often get calls
and messages from people out in Palmerston, particularly in the
driver area, where people are accessing alcohol. There's been concerns about,
you know the fact that they are accessing alcohol out there.
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But I know myself, I've driven out there for different
sporting games and that kind of thing, and you've got
people that are drunk and you know, loitering around. It's
sort of two o'clock in the afternoon in some cases
when you've got kids also trying to leave school, trying
to get to their different sporting events too. I think
it's a good thing to do this during the holidays.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And Katie Driver is one area I can tell you
that's a hot spot for us and it will be
heavily targeted. The other thing that we've got running with
this operation, which is really which is really good, is
we've got a handheld scanning authority in place, so that
means basically will have the power to detect and remove
knives weapons off people they're in public places. So again
it's stopping that serious violent and offending later on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So that'll cur through that period as well.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So is it right around Palmerston or.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Specific all the way from Palmerston through the gateway to
the city to this up The Humpty Do Humpy Do
also is participating.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
The police members, they are participating in this so we
know our areas, we know exactly what we need to do.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
We speak to the MLAs in those areas we see
the complaints, we speak to the shop owners. One understandings,
We've done some heavy communication with a lot of those
people in relationships. They're all excited about it, and now
we'll just wait for the results.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Good to hear. I do think people will be pleased
to hear that, and I'll be interested to hear from
our listeners as well whether they notice that increased police presence. Well,
Commander David Moore, always good to catch up with. You
really appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Thank you, Cadi, Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Thanks so much,
We know that a brief of evidence has been handed
to prosecutors to determine whether the charges should be laid
against any NTI police officers over the death of a
twenty four year old man at a Cole's supermarket in
Alice Springs. Now, as we know, the Woolbury man died
in May after being restrained by two officers following a
confrontation with security guards who allegedly caught him stealing. The
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Acting Police Commissioner, Martin Dole, provided that update to the
media on Monday, but wasn't available to come on the
show today. Joining me though, in the studio is the
Darwin Commander David Moore. Good morning to.
Speaker 2 (00:33):
You, morning, Katy, and to your listeners.
Speaker 1 (00:34):
Good to have you on the show. Now. I understand
Commander that police have now received that final autopsy report,
which is part of the brief of evidence. What's the
process from here?
Speaker 3 (00:45):
Yeah, So what I can say, Katie is that the
autopsy report has been completed. As you've highlighted, we are
aware that the funeral actually did take place last Friday
for mister White, and obviously we're working quite closely with
the family in relation to this. That brief of evidence
that's now sitting with the DPP, and that's to obviously
look at the way of evidence as to whether the
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actions were lawful or unlawful. I really cannot say too
much more than that, because obviously I'm really invested in
the fair process in relation to this. I don't really
know what the I've not seen that brief myself, so
I probably can't make comment on it. However, I think
that's probably the best avenue here and till the determination's made,
and I'm hoping it's sooner than later.
Speaker 1 (01:24):
But so essentially it is now up to the DPP
to determine whether charges are laid or not.
Speaker 2 (01:29):
Correct.
Speaker 3 (01:29):
That's right, and I'm pretty confident as a result of that,
then there'll be some media in relation to it as
to which direction the NT Police will now take as
a result of that opinion that's come back.
Speaker 1 (01:39):
I mean, we know that family of Kumanjai White believe
the process has taken too long and continue to call
for answers. What's your message to them or to anybody
that feels as though this has taken too long?
Speaker 3 (01:51):
Yeah, look for me, a lot of this will fell
obviously on My understanding is on the autopsy, waiting for
that and what the actual findings of.
Speaker 2 (01:59):
Death were and what that would say.
Speaker 3 (02:01):
Again, like I said, I have not seen that report
or the autopsis, or I can't make common up to
the family itself. I appreciate that this may have been
quite lengthy in relation to at least getting it to
the DPP.
Speaker 4 (02:12):
I honestly would like to say that to the family.
Speaker 2 (02:15):
Obviously we work quite heavily. We're quite concerned.
Speaker 3 (02:18):
Nevertheless, more importantly, sometimes these processes need to be looked
at properly and thoroughly so there is adequate information and
correct information that's relied upon us to whether the charges
or no charges are laid.
Speaker 2 (02:30):
We're certainly in communication with the family daily.
Speaker 1 (02:33):
I understand based on what the commission are. The acting
Commissioner had said at that press conference earlier in the
week that the Assistant Commissioner, Michael White, as well as
the executive director of Cultural Reformly and Little, they both
meet with the twenty four year olds family in New
and Demou on Friday last week. Was that to sort
of update the family on where things are at. Do
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you know?
Speaker 3 (02:54):
Yeah, My understanding was that was part of the communication
as well, plus other things again.
Speaker 4 (02:59):
Yeah, that was definitely communicated as to where it was that.
Speaker 3 (03:02):
Obviously, no findings have been made at this stage, but
the family will certainly be one of the first to
be informed.
Speaker 1 (03:07):
Now, I do know that you are not you know,
you're certainly not in charge of this investigation. But do
we know if those officers involved are still undertaking duties?
Have they been stood down? Where are things at?
Speaker 3 (03:17):
From that perspective, my understanding is that they're actually off
duty at the moment, but they're with pay waiting for
these outcomes.
Speaker 1 (03:25):
Okay, well, we will keep it very close on things.
I know that. I'm sure when there is an update
from the DPP we will all hear about that. I
want to ask you though, about this other situation that
unfolded over the weekend. We've been speaking about it a
little more this morning. This sixteen year old boy is
now before the courts after blasting two security guards with
OC spray upon being refused entry to a Darwin nightclub.
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Do you know what he's been charged with? Exactly?
Speaker 3 (03:51):
Yeah, I do, Katie, And what I do know, and
what I can say is that we did arrest a
youth in relation to an aggravated assault and that was
again as you highlighted, early on Sunday morning, Curd about
one am, we actually received a report that the sixteen
year old we actually refuse entry to a nightclub in
the CBD. He allegedly then sprayed two security guards with
the OC spray, striking one guard to the forehead and
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the other to the back. Both guards did not feel
any effects as required, which is really good for medical treatment.
He was arrested very shortly after. He has been charged
with two assault worker and one possessed using a prohibited weapon.
Speaker 4 (04:27):
He is remanded until Monday to appear in court.
Speaker 3 (04:32):
What I want to make very clear here that is
on when that was heavily looked at when this occurred,
is that the OC spray was seized by the officers
and it's.
Speaker 2 (04:39):
Not found to be part of the OC spray trial.
Speaker 3 (04:41):
So it's not like he was purchased it, sold it,
or obtained it. We believe at this stage, and that's
still being investigated, is unlawfully obtained. It can be purchased
over the Internet, and so that can be done through
the obviously through different Internet sites, etc.
Speaker 2 (04:56):
So we believe that that's.
Speaker 4 (04:57):
Where that mayor possibly as a lead up investigation for us.
Speaker 3 (05:00):
But there's not attached as a sold OC spray through
the oceans, and so that's.
Speaker 1 (05:06):
How you're able to work it out that it's actually
like I don't know whether it's a brand or a
type that's sold here in the Northern Territory. So he's
obtained it in some other ways, correct, So police sort
of trying to ascertain exactly how he's then obtained it
so we can I guess avoid other people doing the
same thing.
Speaker 3 (05:21):
Yeah, and that's part of the inquiries, and that'll come
through either a part of our investigation, whether it's communicated
through himself to police, whether that's part of our follow up,
and what we see with social media, anything that he
might be in possession of.
Speaker 4 (05:33):
Anyone that might have any information may be also contact
the police.
Speaker 3 (05:36):
All I can say too, card is obviously going back
while we're on the topic of the OC spray, if
I may, I do have some latest statistics in relation.
Speaker 4 (05:44):
To the trial, which is quite successful, love to hear it.
Speaker 3 (05:46):
So all I can say that it's been a total
of fifteen persons identified as prohibited as carrying it prohibited,
so that's unlawfully. But what I do say is twenty
three of those cannisters have been seized. Over ninety eight
percent of people purchasing the espray are actually eligible to
have it so lawfully they can althy obtain which is
a really good statistic. So it's only that two percent
at the moment that we're dealing with. There's no matters
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that are outstanding as far as the sprays that have
been received or retrieved. So basically it's going really really well.
We're not getting a lot of offenses as a result
of it. And as I said, ninety eight percent of
those that have purchased it have done it lawfully and
are doing it abidingly.
Speaker 1 (06:25):
So tell me in terms of the fifteen that have
then obtained it, you know, like in a way that
they're not supposed to. They're prohibited from purchasing it. What happens? Now,
how do you get that back? How do you make sure,
like have they been charged?
Speaker 3 (06:37):
What happened so that they will in those cases there
will be seized, they will be charged in relation to
a lot of them will obviously get notices to appear
before the court for actually carrying a prohibited weapon, which
is quite clear under the legislation, people are made aware
of that as well when they purchase it as to
where they're supposed to obtain it, how they're supposed to
use it. It's not to be in the hands of
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others that can lawfully unlawfully, I should say.
Speaker 2 (07:01):
Obtain that sort of stuff. We don't want to and
the reason for that is we do not want to
see incidents.
Speaker 3 (07:05):
Low I've just reported it on, which has no correlation.
But nevertheless, the amount of spray that's in the community,
there has to be some tight governance around it.
Speaker 2 (07:14):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (07:14):
Absolutely, And I know, like I you know obviously that
ninety eight percent of people purchasing it are eligible to
purchase it. That's a great stat but then you're still
got two percent that are getting their hands on it
that shouldn't be.
Speaker 3 (07:25):
Yeah, And unfortunately, with these things, you're always going to.
Speaker 2 (07:29):
And I hate reporting on that, You're always going to
have a.
Speaker 3 (07:32):
Very small minority that is going to want to use
it for other purposes or feel that they are a
bit of a cowboy and go and do what they
want to do with it.
Speaker 4 (07:40):
And that's where we come down.
Speaker 1 (07:42):
Yep. Hey, I'm also over the course of the weekend,
and I know that this was a few days ago now,
but on Friday there were charges late after the Northern
Territory Police. Well, there was a vehicle that was stolen
and then it was crashed in Darwin City late on
Thursday night. I believe it was five youths allegedly involved
in this theft of the vehicle from an apartment complex
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in the CBD. They ran the gate then fled the scene. Thirteen,
fourteen and fifteen. Three of those youthes they were in
a pursuit. Then then there were two other youths aged
twelve and fifteen allegedly involved in the vehicle theft, but
they were not in the crash. I mean, this is
concerning stuff.
Speaker 2 (08:22):
Yeah, it is. It's quite a serious incident.
Speaker 3 (08:25):
What we do know is that we've actually charged five
years following that vehicle theft which did crash in dar
And City overnight. The five years allegedly were involved in
the theft of the vehicle from an apartment complex in
the dar And CBDY. As you started, they did ran
the gate and they fled the scene. About thirty minutes later.
Three of the years and as you started, thirteen fourteen
and fifteen were involved in a police pursuit.
Speaker 2 (08:47):
So we had police.
Speaker 3 (08:48):
Lights and sirens trying to apprehend the vehicle. Two other
us as you started, twelve and fifteen, were allegedly involved
in the vehicle theft, but were not actually in the
crash or the vehicle at that time.
Speaker 2 (08:59):
So I just want to separate.
Speaker 3 (09:00):
That earlier today, earlier that day. The next day, strike
was tried in itself. They located and remained the offenders.
The thirteen year old male who police will allege was
driving at the time of the crash, is currently at
the watchhouse. Has been charged with three counts of indiager life,
aggravated drive, ride news motive, vehicle that consent driving a
(09:22):
man of dangerous driver license, and damaged property.
Speaker 1 (09:24):
Were any of them? Were any of them on bail?
Speaker 3 (09:26):
Do you know?
Speaker 2 (09:28):
Not that I'm aware of, Not that I'm aware of.
Speaker 3 (09:31):
What I can say though, And it's really interesting because
the pursuit itself, it was determined around forty seconds prior
to the accident that they were going to determinated the pursuit.
It was getting quite dangerous because it was in the
CBD area, it was obviously heavily populated other traffic users.
They terminated and it was four seconds later after that
termination after we looked at the recordings that the crash occurred,
(09:55):
and quite very very fortunate there was no loss of
life on no serious injury to anybody including the passage.
Speaker 2 (10:00):
Yeah.
Speaker 1 (10:00):
Absolutely, But you think to yourself, you've got bloody you know,
kids this young behind the wheel of a car they
should not be and a stolen vehicle, like it's just
it is frightening stuff. It's frightening for a whole raft
of reasons. But I just think they're putting themselves in danger,
They're putting everybody else on the road in danger, They're
putting the police in danger. It should not be happening.
Speaker 3 (10:20):
No, and those types of instants, and we see a
lot of it. But you know, and I think I've
been on here many of times. I've reported stolen cars
in crime series, particularly out of the West Daari region
and stuff. Yeah, those matters become quite dangerous. Tried and
have some great techniques with other methods that they use
to stop these vehicles as quick.
Speaker 2 (10:37):
As they can.
Speaker 4 (10:38):
Nevertheless, every situation is heavily.
Speaker 3 (10:40):
Risk managed has to be because obviously lives are at
risk here.
Speaker 1 (10:44):
Well, and it's sort of that time of the year,
I guess when the school holidays kick off that everybody
does worry that we're going to see a little bit
of increased crime or some increased incidents. I understand that
there's going to be a special operation kicking off in
Palmerston over the coming days. What sort of sparked this?
Speaker 3 (11:02):
Yeah, so, Katie, I've been heavily involved in this myself
over citing this operation. So what I can say is
that we do have a social order operation that'll be really.
Speaker 2 (11:09):
Targeting the Palmerston region.
Speaker 3 (11:11):
What sort of sparked it was we were starting to
see some spikes in crime and different in different areas
such as alcohol, field, any social behavior. We were getting
a number of complaints as well from shop owners. So
what will happen is as of today, it's commenced as
of this morning at nine o'clock this morning. It will
run until Saturday, Saturday evening. It'll be heavily populated and
(11:33):
saturated with police officers. So all of my three divisions
been Caasarin to Palmerston and Darwin will be participating in it.
I also have also the Territory Safety Division and the
Territory Support Division also providing not only members but mounted police.
We'll have the e bikes as well that'll be around there.
We'll be obviously in high viz. We also had the
(11:54):
support and I want to give a big thank you
to some other agencies that are really assisting us in this.
So we have also the Public Order Response Unit NTE
Life that's seeing the city of Palmston itself and palms
are Public Housing Safety Office.
Speaker 2 (12:06):
And Larache Nation. They'll all be a part of this.
Speaker 3 (12:09):
And the whole idea of this is obviously is too
we all know, if we can stop the alcohol at
an early stage in the morning, it then shows up
later on an evening or a night where the alcohol
fueled violence and domestic violence are decreasing.
Speaker 1 (12:22):
So this is the reason, yeah, and absolutely a good
thing to do. I mean, we quite often get calls
and messages from people out in Palmerston, particularly in the
driver area, where people are accessing alcohol. There's been concerns about,
you know the fact that they are accessing alcohol out there.
(12:42):
But I know myself, I've driven out there for different
sporting games and that kind of thing, and you've got
people that are drunk and you know, loitering around. It's
sort of two o'clock in the afternoon in some cases
when you've got kids also trying to leave school, trying
to get to their different sporting events too. I think
it's a good thing to do this during the holidays.
Speaker 3 (13:01):
And Katie Driver is one area I can tell you
that's a hot spot for us and it will be
heavily targeted. The other thing that we've got running with
this operation, which is really which is really good, is
we've got a handheld scanning authority in place, so that
means basically will have the power to detect and remove
knives weapons off people they're in public places. So again
it's stopping that serious violent and offending later on.
Speaker 2 (13:21):
So that'll cur through that period as well.
Speaker 1 (13:23):
So is it right around Palmerston or.
Speaker 3 (13:25):
Specific all the way from Palmerston through the gateway to
the city to this up The Humpty Do Humpy Do
also is participating.
Speaker 4 (13:31):
The police members, they are participating in this so we
know our areas, we know exactly what we need to do.
Speaker 3 (13:36):
We speak to the MLAs in those areas we see
the complaints, we speak to the shop owners. One understandings,
We've done some heavy communication with a lot of those
people in relationships. They're all excited about it, and now
we'll just wait for the results.
Speaker 1 (13:48):
Good to hear. I do think people will be pleased
to hear that, and I'll be interested to hear from
our listeners as well whether they notice that increased police presence. Well,
Commander David Moore, always good to catch up with. You
really appreciate your time this morning.
Speaker 2 (14:00):
Thank you, Cadi, Thank you for listening.
Speaker 1 (14:01):
Thanks so much,
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